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Speaker 1: Laid fifteen to ten touched up.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome into a week one edition of Chargers Weekly,

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Speaker 3: as always, joined by the voice of the Chargers, Matt

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Speaker 3: money Smith. And how about this our newest teammate, Jalilade.

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Speaker 3: And the thing about Jalil San Diego Charger, La Charger,

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Speaker 3: He's coached these guys, He's picked off Gardner Minshew who

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Speaker 3: we're gonna talk about. So you played against a lot

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Speaker 3: of these guys.

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Speaker 4: It's great to have you here, Bro hey Man, appreciate

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Speaker 4: the opportunity always working with you, Chris my guy, Matt

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Speaker 4: money Smith, It's honored to be here.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm just gonna get this out of the way,

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Speaker 1: straight out the game. Let's go as the play by

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Speaker 1: play guy, I do have a bit of an issue.

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Speaker 1: You and Trey Boston made life hard on me. Both played,

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Speaker 1: you know, on the back end of the defense. You

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Speaker 1: both had hair that covered your numbers, and we both

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Speaker 1: and you both like to wear the same color socks. Yes,

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Speaker 1: so it's like if one of you were yellow and

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Speaker 1: the other one wore Potter. I'd be good if one

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Speaker 1: of you wore gloves and the other one didn't. I'd

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Speaker 1: be good. But instead I'm looking out and a lot

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Speaker 1: of you are, both of your making plays and almost

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Speaker 1: the same part of the field a lot of the times,

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Speaker 1: and I'm just I gotta wait, I gotta wait. Can

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Speaker 1: I get Is it thirty thirty seven?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: It's like, is it thirty seven? What was he? I think?

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Speaker 1: So it truly was. Yeah, it truly was a labor.

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Speaker 2: You're not the only one.

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Speaker 1: You made me earn it. You made you and Trey

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Speaker 1: made me earn it.

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Speaker 2: The coach Bilo gets you all mixed up to on film.

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Speaker 2: On film, he did, definitely. He'd always called Trey's name

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Speaker 2: and it'd be like, Coach, that's me.

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Speaker 4: I'm down in the box, coach, you know, try to

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Speaker 4: sixty forty safety playing deep. He's like, yeah, I know,

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Speaker 4: but your hair is it's your hair. But he did

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Speaker 4: get us confused. Man, it was awesome playing with Trade.

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Speaker 2: That was my guy.

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Speaker 4: That's my guy, high energy guy. Oh yeah, yeah, brought

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Speaker 4: brought it every single day. One of the reasons why

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Speaker 4: the jack Boys went the way it went.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I do want to add this to about

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Speaker 1: Trey because it is one of my favorite moments and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm supposed to do this, but whatever.

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Speaker 1: So Chargers Christmas party were out at where were we

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Speaker 1: we were? No, it was a Pelican Hill Pelican Hills.

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Speaker 1: So they got it set a beautiful spread. Spanos family

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Speaker 1: spared no expense, food amazing. The result open like it was.

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Speaker 1: I had expected such great things that the wife and

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Speaker 1: I uber. I was like, hey, I'm not driving all right,

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Speaker 1: I'm cannonballing into this pool. But they had these golf

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Speaker 1: Tray's out there and I'm out there and we're just

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Speaker 1: And this this guy that works I don't know what

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Speaker 1: and instead of like getting angry, Trade just looked at

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Speaker 1: him and goes, we're really doing this right now. We're

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Speaker 1: really doing this right now. And the guy just went,

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Speaker 1: my bad. He just walked away, just like there we go.

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Speaker 1: That's how you handle it.

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Speaker 2: You used to see that right now he's actually a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that may have been what got him.

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Speaker 3: That may have been the trey has no idea that

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Speaker 3: the first five minutes of Charges Weekly what it's gonna

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Speaker 4: Exactly seven years, seven years later.

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Speaker 3: Guys, let's go back December fourteenth, twenty twenty three, Charges

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Speaker 3: Louse sixty three, twenty one in Vegas. Everything changes, right, yeah,

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Speaker 3: uh gm out hey, coach out. A few months later,

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Speaker 3: a new era Charges football begins. We've been talking about

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Speaker 3: it for months. It's finally here in money. How appropriate

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Speaker 3: that it's the Raiders. Yeah, look, we've had the Raiders

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Speaker 3: start the season before. It's Julili, you'll speak to it.

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Speaker 3: It's it's a great rivalry. The fans love it, and

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Speaker 3: there's gonna be a ton of it. Not that there

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Speaker 3: I think it's a great way to start it. That way,

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Speaker 3: think about sixty three, you know, sixty three to twenty

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Speaker 3: one for the rest of the year. Get it out

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Speaker 3: of the way, get this victory, you know. Send the

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Speaker 3: Raider folks that decide to come and and support their

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Speaker 3: spent on those tickets and what a waste of money

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Speaker 3: it was on to Carolina.

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Speaker 4: Hey, look money when you look at this game, this

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Speaker 4: is this game is going to be a playoff atmosphere

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Speaker 4: week one. Herbert's back charges Raiders. We know the history

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Speaker 4: of this game, obviously, I've played in it. Right, fans

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Speaker 4: you're coming in on the bus, right you're on the field.

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Speaker 4: They know your aunt's name, your mom's name, your brother's name,

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Speaker 4: and they're.

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Speaker 2: Using those to try to get into your head.

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Speaker 4: Right, as a player, it's one of the best environments

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Speaker 4: you can be around Charges Raiders Week one in so

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be a good event. What's Week one like

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Obviously all the anticipation to get the season going, but

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Speaker 3: there's a new coach here, You're playing against your chief rival,

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Speaker 3: and you know that you want to put on a

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Speaker 2: You hit it on the head.

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Speaker 4: You want to put on a good show. But that

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Speaker 4: want to make a splash. It's the Raiders, right, national

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Speaker 4: and just basically do your one eleventh do your job right.

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Speaker 4: You've had training camp, you have a great coach staff

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Speaker 4: here at the boat who's putting together great game plan.

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Speaker 2: You get out there, do your job and let the

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Speaker 1: You know, it's it works for both sides here, right,

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Speaker 1: because you have a whole new coaching staff, a lot

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Speaker 1: of new players on this Charger team. I think it's

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Speaker 1: since I started doing this in twenty seventeen. On this side.

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Speaker 1: But as you prepare for the Raiders on the other side,

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Speaker 1: is this team's preparing as the defense? What are you watching?

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Speaker 1: Are you watching Luke Getzi with the Bears? Are you

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Speaker 1: But how much this goes into preparing for a team

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Speaker 1: How do you spread your time on what you're watching

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Speaker 4: So obviously you're looking at Getsie and what he did

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Speaker 4: last year, right, because it's his offense. Whatever he did

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Speaker 4: last year, he's gonna bring it over different personnel, obviously,

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Speaker 4: But then you look at personnel and you say, Gardner Minchew,

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Speaker 4: we go back and look at his film, what does

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Speaker 4: his three step drops look like his five step drops

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I think the biggest thing it's almost like you

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Speaker 4: You go out there, you have your base defense. You

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Speaker 4: probably just playing his shell, base defense, trying to see

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Speaker 4: how they're gonna attack him. It's a game of chests

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Speaker 4: out here at the end of the day, their offensive

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Speaker 2: So it'll be an exciting matchup. Guys.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to oversimplify things, but over the last

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Speaker 3: two years, the Chargers have had a Devonte Adams problem.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and they've had a Max Crosby problem.

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Speaker 3: And you know, Joe Altz got the biggest test of

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Speaker 3: in four games against the Chargers thirty four catches, four

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Speaker 3: in terms of slowing Davante knowing that you have derwin,

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Speaker 3: but you as have rock ballers, Like, what's the game

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Speaker 4: So Davante is what we would call a game wreckord. Right,

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Speaker 4: in a matter of instance, he can wreck the game.

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Speaker 4: So as a defensive coordinator, as a defense you go

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Speaker 4: into this week saying, hey, look there's one player who's not.

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Speaker 2: Going to beat us today and it is Devanta Adams.

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Speaker 2: How do we do that?

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Speaker 4: Different kind of looks? Right, we cloud him for people

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Speaker 4: at home to know what cloud is. A hard cover

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Speaker 4: any underbreaking routes. With the safety on top, you're shifting

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Speaker 4: the coverage to Devonte Adams. Brock's gonna have to beat you.

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Speaker 4: The other weapons are gonna have to beat You're gonna

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Speaker 4: have to rely on their game, running game. But when

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Speaker 4: the Chargers leave this game on Sunday, they cannot look

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Speaker 4: at the film and say, you know what, we lost

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Speaker 4: this game because DeVante Adams erected.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I watched week four, the first game, and I

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Speaker 1: think he might have got pressed twice. They were giving

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Speaker 1: him so much understandable, right, give him a ton of respect,

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Speaker 1: a lot of cushion, and it just looked easy for him.

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Speaker 2: It was easy.

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Speaker 1: He was the first three hot read typically, but he's

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Speaker 1: how do you you just said it right? The cloud coverage,

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Speaker 1: it just seems like it makes more sense, especially with

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Speaker 4: I agree with your money when you look at it,

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Speaker 4: the Russian cover works together. Obviously, the pass rush is

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Speaker 4: going to help the secondary so they don't have to

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Speaker 4: cover as long. But like you said, even on third downs,

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Speaker 4: double seventeen middle high safety, the other safety double seventeen

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Speaker 4: with the corner, we're erasing him off the board and MINSU,

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Speaker 4: you're gonna have to look the other way, and you

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Speaker 4: don't have a lot of time because you have Tully, Bosa,

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Speaker 4: Mac and Bud the pre humming off the edge. And

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Speaker 4: you can add Durwin James if you want to bring

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Speaker 4: a five man pressure. So whatever you do, it's two

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Speaker 4: verse one. I don't care if we line up like

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Speaker 4: it's a punt coverage and we're vising him.

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Speaker 2: He cannot wreck the game.

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Speaker 3: Just speak speaking of Darwin and Mundy, I think a

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Speaker 3: few months ago you were kind of joking but not

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Speaker 3: really welcome to the NFL. Brock Bowers, Derwin James, this

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Speaker 3: is your guy. Would you put Derwin on brock Bowers

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Speaker 3: you use Darwin in a lot of different ways.

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Speaker 4: You see what he does with Kelsey, and Kelsey's one

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Speaker 4: of the best Titans who's ever played the game in

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Speaker 4: Durwin weekend and week out, twice a year erases Kelsey

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Speaker 4: off the board. He does the time this Kelsey shakes away,

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Speaker 4: it might be a little rub rout, or it might

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Speaker 4: He's Hall of Fame and he's Hall of Fame, right,

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Speaker 4: He's probably the best tight end to play the game

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Speaker 4: when it's all said and done. Right, So when you

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Speaker 4: have a rookie, obviously you have to respect him. But

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Speaker 4: he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day.

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Speaker 4: We say, Durwin Brock Bowers is a dog, right, He's

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Speaker 2: Now, if you get him too the second.

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Speaker 4: Half and Durwan's doing the job that we want him

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Speaker 4: to do and Brock is not affecting the game, then

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Speaker 4: you can say, Okay, you know what, Let's try to

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Speaker 4: blitz Durwin. Let's try to show man on Brock and

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Speaker 4: then bring him off the edge, right, so you switch

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Speaker 1: You know, just without leading you to an answer, because

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Speaker 1: I that's what my interpretation was from coach Minter in

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do a lot of different things. But you

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Speaker 1: know last year with coach Staley, when Durhan was asked

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Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things in game, you know,

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Speaker 1: six snaps high safety, eight snap slot corner, twelve snaps

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Speaker 2: It's a lot.

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Speaker 1: I felt like what I took away from Coach Minter's

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Speaker 1: him game by game. It'll be different, but inside the game,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be doing the same thing. We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: spread him out like that. As you look at the Raiders,

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: What do you think this team needs from Durwin in

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Speaker 4: You got to take away the tight ends Bow and Mayor,

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Speaker 4: Like you said, two first round tight ends, right, And

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Speaker 4: that's what the safety does.

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Speaker 2: Strong safety. What Duran does.

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Speaker 4: He plays his best ball in the box. Get him

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Speaker 4: in the box, line them up cover three, allow him

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Speaker 4: to see the zone reads, allow him to fall back

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Speaker 4: in the A gap B gaps, and play downhill while

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Speaker 4: he's in the box. It looks like cover three, but

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Speaker 4: he's Manda man on the tight ends while he's in

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Speaker 4: the box. It looks like Mandon Man in Cover three,

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Speaker 4: but now he's blitzing at the snap of the ball

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Speaker 4: off the edge and creating pressure. Right, So there's so

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Speaker 4: much you could do with him. I would love to

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Speaker 4: see Duran in the box a lot more of this game.

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Speaker 4: Obviously too high. You want to have too high to

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Speaker 4: keep them honest, protect Devonte Adams going over the top.

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Speaker 4: When you get your chances, you have to rotate three

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Speaker 4: down and let them get busy.

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Speaker 1: So when you say too high with that, then means

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Speaker 1: is we're talking about that third safety? So, right, is

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Speaker 1: that Aj Finley? They bring in Elijah Molden. It feels

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Speaker 1: like that's sort of that little bit of a you know,

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Speaker 1: to have those two guys up there and how that

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Speaker 4: Well, I think think the third safety will be Aj

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Speaker 4: Being in training camp, I've seen what a j Dunn.

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Speaker 4: He's grown as a young guy. He's obviously young, but

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Speaker 4: he's he's earned it. He's earned it to step by

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Speaker 4: there on Sunday as the third safety with him in

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Speaker 4: a lowe givemen playing back, which allowed him to use

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Speaker 4: Durwin down close to the line of scrimmage and be

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Speaker 4: more of the wild card, almost like they use Kyle

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna use during the exact same way

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Speaker 4: that you see them use Kyle Hamilton, and you see

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Speaker 4: the success that he's had in Baltimore.

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Speaker 3: Chargers edge rushers are gonna have to outplay the Raiders

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Speaker 3: pass rush with Max Frosby and Christian Wilkins too. Frankly,

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Speaker 3: who's new to this organization, and you know the Chargers

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Speaker 3: Saul Wilkins in Week one last year when the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: Came to town.

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Speaker 3: As far as Crosby and Wilkins are concerned, because these

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Speaker 3: Crosby's perhaps money one of the best run defenders has

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you do you run at Max?

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Speaker 3: Like, how do you attack these guys on the ground,

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Speaker 3: because you know the charge is gonna leave with the run.

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Speaker 2: You just said it, You run at him.

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Speaker 4: That's the best way to slow a pass rushing down

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Speaker 4: is running him because a lot of times with pass

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Speaker 4: rushers do they want to get up the field get

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Speaker 4: up the field. And when you get up the field

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Speaker 4: on a run, you're creating lanes, you're creating scenes, and

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Speaker 4: that's what you want his offense, So the best way

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Speaker 4: to slow Max down isn't blocking him, isn't chipping him.

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Speaker 4: It's running at him. Right, So he's thinking every player

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Speaker 4: is a run as a pass. I can't just run

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Speaker 4: off the ball and get up the field to try

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Speaker 4: to do a fancy spin move. I have to sit down.

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Speaker 4: I have to anchor and create a and create an

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Speaker 4: edge on the defense. So I think that's the way

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Speaker 4: to you attack him. And then obviously in passing downs

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Speaker 4: you slide the protection and then you chip him and

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Speaker 4: then you look to get the ball over your hands.

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Speaker 1: Quickly like the way you said fancy spin move, because look.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's what he does.

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Speaker 1: He has a baggage for power. He is incredible. I'm

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Speaker 1: so happy that the Darius Davis play happened in Dallas

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Speaker 1: that seed because I'm assuming that that coach Harbaugh and

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Speaker 1: you know, I think about Max and I think about

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Speaker 1: making them think, who does that affect the most? Is

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Speaker 1: Is it the box safety? How does you know what

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Speaker 2: So it all depends.

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Speaker 4: It depends what defense they're in, right, So if you're

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Speaker 2: Eighth man in the box is responsible for anything.

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Speaker 4: Fast to the flat number two to the flat witch

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Speaker 4: was Darius right now? If they're not and there in

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Speaker 4: their tennessees to know when to call that play right,

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So I think obviously making them think you made a

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Speaker 4: great point. When you make them think, you just don't

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Speaker 4: line up and play ball. Now we have motion, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of times with motion, teams are checking check

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Speaker 2: Now they're thinking, now it's loud.

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Speaker 4: Now you have to communicate that and when they all

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Speaker 2: It's also about the personnel too.

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Speaker 3: Like last year, I go back to Week one to

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Speaker 3: they let the Chargers right, The Chargers want to run

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Speaker 3: this year, Yes, they want to run. That's why you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, at full fall back.

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Speaker 3: So like I just I wonder how the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: But you also have the personnel to do it.

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Speaker 3: Like you can have Disley help with Max Crosby, you

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Speaker 4: And the crazy thing about it, Disney can go out

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: Then you have Matt Locke that comes in six four,

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Speaker 4: So these are guys that they bring into the game

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Speaker 2: Last year there you have.

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Speaker 4: Right the Scott department is doing their job. They're literally

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Speaker 4: guys that have come in and defense are thinking it's

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Speaker 4: big personnel, It's time to run.

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Speaker 2: It's time to run.

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Speaker 4: They're getting nosy at the ball play action boop over

441
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Speaker 4: the top so they can get real, real fancy with it.

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Speaker 3: I can't wait for fantasy owners to get really mad

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Speaker 3: at Scott Matt Locke faltering, faltering like one d perceptions around.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is and I hate to keep going

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Speaker 1: back to Stanford because I know we saw it in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco as well, But to me, like that's that's

447
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Speaker 1: just what they did at Stanford. Change the culture of

448
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Speaker 1: that organization. It changed the perception of what you expected

449
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Speaker 1: when you went into a game. And we heard what

450
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Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst said when he first you know, when he

451
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Speaker 1: did his first press or, He's like, what are we

452
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Speaker 1: going to do. We're gonna make people upset when they

453
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Speaker 1: see the schedule and they see us on Sunday, and

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Speaker 1: they're going to feel it the next week. Like that's

455
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Speaker 1: what they did. Intellectual brutality, right, And you get the

456
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Speaker 1: feeling that that's what they're bringing here and that's where

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Speaker 1: the whole matlock thing comes into play, and it makes

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Speaker 1: so much sense, and I think it's signals that's what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do, Like, Hey, why why do we

460
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Speaker 1: want two hundred and thirty five pound Tucker Fiske at fullback? Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: when we can get three hundred and five pounds Scott

462
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Speaker 1: matt Locke? Why plant a Why carry a fourth tight end?

463
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Speaker 1: And Donald Parham, who were trying to get more acclimated

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Speaker 1: to blocking when I can plant sixth offensive lineman Foster

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Speaker 1: Currell out there. That's I think what we're going to

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Speaker 1: see a lot of this year. And the other flip

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Speaker 1: side of his again, you know, I keep making the

468
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Speaker 1: comparison to fifteen years ago, but the Pac twel wasn't

469
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Speaker 1: ready for it. They were lighting the ass, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: and so that's what they saw, and I think that's

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Speaker 1: what the NFL has become. When you look at the

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Speaker 1: linebacker level, you know, kind of the way teams are

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Speaker 1: always in nickel, they're in dime a lot. It just

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Speaker 1: feels like you don't believe it because Justin Herbert's your quarterback.

475
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Speaker 1: But that's what they're gonna do, Like, this is what

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Speaker 1: they're going to do right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And when you look at it, the league, especially

478
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Speaker 4: this division, has become seven on seven passing, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 4: you got all the.

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Speaker 2: Flashy riff raft this that deep boss.

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Speaker 4: Listen, Jim is coming in here saying, listen, we're gonna

482
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Speaker 4: be a bully.

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Speaker 2: He wants to build a bully.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna punch you in them out first, second, third,

485
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Speaker 4: and the fourth quarter. And I'm telling you right now

486
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Speaker 4: previous experience, you do not want to tackle a back

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Speaker 4: like Gus Edwards in the fourth quarter twenty five carries pounding.

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Speaker 4: It was Scott coming down on Iso leading on the

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Speaker 4: middle linebacker. You don't want to do it. I don't

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Speaker 4: care who it is. I don't care if it's Ray Lewis.

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Speaker 4: They don't want to do it for fourth quarters. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's the message that the charges are sending.

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Speaker 1: I told this story before I called the sc Stanford

494
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Speaker 1: game at the Coliseum, the fifty five point game, and

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Speaker 1: one of the stories that came out of it was that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Toby didn't say it explicitly, but it was conveyed.

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Speaker 1: I think through him that the linebacker said, why are

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Speaker 1: you still in the game? Why do we still have

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Speaker 1: to tackle two hundred and twenty pounds. Toby Gerhart coming downhill,

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Speaker 1: run in power when you're up forty eight to three,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, yeah, dude, they just quit. They were

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Speaker 1: just like we we're not doing it anymore. We're tired

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Speaker 1: of it. We just want to end.

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Speaker 2: I've been there.

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Speaker 4: I didn't quit, but I've been there. I'm like, man again,

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Speaker 4: right again. Yeah, this is what you signed up for.

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Speaker 4: And that's what the charges they're coming into so far

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Speaker 4: right to take another man's will. And that's the culture.

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Speaker 4: That's the organization that Jim is building here and I

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Speaker 4: love it.

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Speaker 3: And the Ben Herbert effect comes into play early, right

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Speaker 3: the first game.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you'll know how much gas you got.

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Speaker 3: For the fourth quarter, right, he's fourth quarter finishers and

515
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Speaker 3: for all of the going through something, working through something.

516
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Speaker 3: There's two guys on the injury report right now, Djhark

517
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Speaker 3: and Tarheeb still. Everybouce no, Joey Yeah, no, Rashawn Slater no,

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Speaker 3: Justin Herbert. Everybody's ready to So I do think the

519
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Speaker 3: first game of the year and you could speak to

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Speaker 3: this more than anybody, but conditioning is gonna be something

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Speaker 3: that you'll know about in the fourth quarter, who's more

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Speaker 3: condition who's ready for for a seventeen game season.

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Speaker 2: And that's very key because, like I said earlier in

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Speaker 2: the preseason.

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Speaker 4: You do not play your starters right right. And you

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Speaker 4: can practice all you want and get all the reps

527
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Speaker 4: you want, but there's nothing like playing in the game

528
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Speaker 4: and getting those live, actual reps.

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Speaker 2: You know, thinking while you're tired, reacting while you're tired.

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Speaker 4: And like you said, Herb is going to be a big,

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Speaker 4: big part of the success of the Chargers in twenty

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Speaker 4: twenty four.

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Speaker 2: The fourth quarter finishes, he.

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Speaker 4: Does after practice of eighty ninety plays, training camp practices

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Speaker 4: plays right, and then these guys are going pulling slaves,

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Speaker 4: they're walking with med balls, they're doing sit ups and

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Speaker 4: doing push ups. I'll tell you right now, everybody in

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Speaker 4: the league's not doing that right.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna pay off.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna ask you, because you were out on

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Speaker 3: the field with these guys for training camp, right in

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Speaker 3: terms of the conditioning aspect, how different was this camp

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Speaker 3: compared to other camps you coach had and be a

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Speaker 3: part of.

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Speaker 4: I've never seen anything like it, That's the thing, like,

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Speaker 4: I haven't seen it. And what's crazy is it's all

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Speaker 4: thought out right. He's just not saying, hey guys, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna go here and pull this. We're gonna do He's

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Speaker 4: thought about it all week, each Eve and every day,

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Speaker 4: what time, how much time they're gonna do it, And

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Speaker 4: he has a plan. He's been doing it at Wisconsin,

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Speaker 4: he's doing it at Michigan.

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Speaker 2: This is what he does. He builds a beast, and

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Speaker 2: they're doing it early.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. You mentioned starters not playing in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: One starter who did, and it's understandable because he's a rookie.

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Speaker 1: Is Joe All? And you go back and watch the

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Speaker 1: Joe All film and I think there's a reason to

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Speaker 1: get excited the way. And I don't know exactly how

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Speaker 1: they're gonna get them, if they're gonna pull him as much,

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Speaker 1: or if they were just kind of planting seeds for

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Speaker 1: week one and what you got to think about. But

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Speaker 1: when you see six ' eight, three hundred and whatever,

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Speaker 1: twenty five, three hundred and thirty moving the way he

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Speaker 1: moves and how they can utilize that, I think people

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Speaker 1: and I shouldn't say people like when the draft was here,

567
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Speaker 1: it's oh, can't pass on elite neighbors. You can't pass

568
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Speaker 1: on Roman dun Sing. I don't think people quite understood

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Speaker 1: what it means to not just have a guy who

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Speaker 1: can play tackle, but someone that big, that strong, that athletic,

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Speaker 1: and what it opens the offense up to do because

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Speaker 1: of how he moves and how they can use him

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Speaker 1: as a poler. When you're on the other side of

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Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage and you see that coming, how

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Speaker 1: effective is that and how hard is it? If you

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Speaker 1: know knowing how creative Greg Roman is, what are the

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Speaker 1: challenges is a defense to try to slow that down

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Speaker 1: when that's coming at you.

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, when you see somebody six eight

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Speaker 4: and the size of him as a DV you want

581
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Speaker 4: to chop him. You can't do that, nor more can

582
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Speaker 4: do it right. You gotta take him on helmet to

583
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Speaker 4: helmet rightes and is another event, right, so when you

584
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Speaker 4: see that, you're like, Okay, these guys can.

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Speaker 2: Get really creative.

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Speaker 4: And then with the elite neighbors thing, right, you have

587
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Speaker 4: to know your coaching staff. This is a coaching staff

588
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Speaker 4: that wants to run the ball first, and they're building

589
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Speaker 4: the foundation around the franchise right justin Herbert, they building

590
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Speaker 4: the foundation around the franchise Justin Herbert, and they said,

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Speaker 4: you know what, rule number one, We're gonna protect our quarterback.

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Speaker 2: And Joe is a generational.

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Speaker 4: Talent, size, athletic ability, the way he goes about his business,

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Speaker 4: and he's a true pro around him as a young guy,

595
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Speaker 4: he's a.

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Speaker 2: True pro already coming in. So I'm really excited to

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Speaker 2: see how they utilize him.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're twenty five thirty minutes in probably

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Speaker 3: to this podcast. I don't know exactly, but mayn't talk

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Speaker 3: about Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 1: No, he's healthy, because that's like the one known Like

603
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Speaker 1: there's so many on Like we know Justin Herbert is

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Speaker 1: going to be great, but that's that we know.

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Speaker 2: That's my point.

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Speaker 3: It's the quarterback matchup in this game, right, Like you

607
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Speaker 3: know Justin's gonna be okay, Right, We're worried about all

608
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Speaker 3: the kind of outside factors. Gardner Minshew Chargers played twice.

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Speaker 3: I think he's owa to against the Chargers, but he's

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Speaker 3: he's been around, right, you picked them off. As I

611
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Speaker 3: mentioned at the beginning of the show, give me the differences.

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Speaker 2: Not differ.

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Speaker 3: We know the difference between Herbert and Gardner Minshew but

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Speaker 3: but Gardner is a player, Like, what are the Charges

615
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Speaker 3: need to be prepared for in terms of defending him.

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Speaker 4: I think what Gardner does best is when I played him,

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Speaker 4: was he extends plays with his feet. People don't give

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Speaker 4: him a lot of credit, like he's almost has a

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Speaker 4: little bit of RuSHA Wilson this to him, right, He's

620
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Speaker 4: not going to just drop back and pick you apart.

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Speaker 4: Where he makes his hey is you know, you blitz

622
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Speaker 4: off the and you lose contain and he spins out. Okay,

623
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Speaker 4: Now he's looking downfield and it's a scramble drill and

624
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Speaker 4: guys are holding down field, and he chucks a deep

625
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Speaker 4: ball and it's a PI down in the thirty yard line,

626
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Speaker 4: and now they're down in the red zone right now, right,

627
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Speaker 4: I think what the Charges need to do with him,

628
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Speaker 4: obviously is just be gap sound when you're rushing, keep

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Speaker 4: him in the pocket, make him beat you with his arm,

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Speaker 4: don't let him get outside the pocket, start running around

631
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Speaker 4: doing all this trickery, happity run around stuff. Guys are

632
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Speaker 4: just running open. Now you're chasing Devonte Adams across the field.

633
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Speaker 4: Keep him in the pocket, and when you do, pressure

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Speaker 4: him type man coverage on the back end with help

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Speaker 4: over number seventeen.

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Speaker 2: And I think that would be the formula.

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Speaker 1: What can you share because I've watched this much film

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Speaker 1: slash video people trying to explain it about the way

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Speaker 1: Jesse Minner plays defense, and man, it's a lot to

640
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Speaker 1: try to figure out and see. One thing we hear

641
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Speaker 1: from the players is it's simple, like he's made it simple,

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Speaker 1: but it's not. And it's simulated. Pressure is what you

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Speaker 1: hear a lot of. It's for the most part, you know,

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Speaker 1: you kind of have an idea of what the coverages are.

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Speaker 1: He's not trying to hide that. You know. It's some quarters,

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Speaker 1: it's quarter half, there's like you say, there's cover three.

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Speaker 1: It's all of what every other team is doing. But man,

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Speaker 1: when that ball is snapped, it's like, where did that

649
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Speaker 1: guy come from? And now it's like just when you

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Speaker 1: think you know what it's going to be, it's something different.

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Speaker 1: So can you help explain to the people watching and

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Speaker 1: listening how he's been so effective cause he's part of

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Speaker 1: this group. There's been I think six You know, Mike

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Speaker 1: McDonald's a head coach, he's coming as a DC. Two

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Speaker 1: Ravens assistants got plucked and were made dcs. What is

656
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Speaker 1: it about this defense that's causing so much trouble in

657
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Speaker 1: the NFL right now?

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Speaker 2: Well, it's basically what he does.

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Speaker 4: First is when he comes in day one and he implements,

660
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Speaker 4: he says, we're going to be a physical defense. We've

661
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Speaker 4: all seen the Ravens defense and how the brand of

662
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Speaker 4: football that they play. But the thing about it I

663
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Speaker 4: like the most about him is it's a lot of vision.

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Speaker 4: Right he has the pass r us up front, and

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Speaker 4: a lot of times when teams blitz five, send five

666
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Speaker 4: a fire zone, whatever that is. You're matching routes, you're

667
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Speaker 4: matching over routes, you're matching corner routes. What the secondary

668
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Speaker 4: is doing a vision, their body presence on the route.

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Speaker 4: They're not taking it over, but their eyes are on

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Speaker 4: the ball and that's why you see they're getting a

671
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Speaker 4: lot of takeaways. And then when it comes to the

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Speaker 4: pass for us, he's getting, he's getting. He's simple, but

673
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Speaker 4: not simple. At the same time, you have four studs

674
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Speaker 4: that you can run a lot of te games with

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Speaker 4: the front. You got linebackers in safeties that can blitz,

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Speaker 4: so week in week out, you're gonna see different pressures

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and Jelia, I think back to Michigan and Mikey

695
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Speaker 1: Sandrastill and what he was able to do from the

696
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Speaker 1: nickel and then watching the preseason and Tarhee's still getting

697
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 1: his hands on ball, it seems like that's that's a

698
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: pivot point, like that particular position looks like he's he

699
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: is happy to send it from there, and it's a

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Speaker 1: spot that that quarterback is going to have to be

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Speaker 1: looking at all game long.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the nickel is important.

703
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 4: It's basically the sam linebacker in the nickel package, right,

704
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: he blitzes, he plays man, he zone drops right, and

705
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 4: he's a lot of times to tell of what the

706
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Speaker 4: coverage is.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: So the nickel in this defense is very important pre

709
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 4: snap showing like you're blitzing, right, showing like you're blitzing,

710
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 4: but the safety needs to be tiding with you to

711
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 4: show over the top of the number two receiver like

712
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Speaker 4: you're blitzing at the snap pop out and you're giving

713
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,520
Speaker 4: a different look. So they can do a lot of

714
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 4: different things with the nickel. And I know that Jesse

715
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Speaker 4: Minner loves him.

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Speaker 3: You know John Taylor, he hit that nickel spot kind

717
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 3: of locked from the beginning. Like what have you seen

718
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 3: from him over the last couple of years and how

719
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 3: quickly he picked up this mental scheme because he's gonna

720
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Speaker 3: be a big, big piece of this defense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Jaw is And I'm proud of yall because Joah

722
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: came in and he made his name as a special

723
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Speaker 4: teamer and now he's developed himself into being a viable,

724
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,680
Speaker 4: a viable asset right to this defense. And when I

725
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: seen John and training camp, the word I can say

726
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 4: about him is that Jaw's a pro. Right, doesn't say much, right, listens,

727
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: takes coaching, and he's fast, he can cover right, He's quick,

728
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Speaker 4: and surprisingly he's a really really, really really good tackle.

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Speaker 2: He's a really really good tackler. Excuse me.

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Speaker 4: Right, So when you see what Jaw has done and

731
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Speaker 4: how he's grown, is very reassured for this Chargers defense.

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Speaker 1: And it was too late round corners by the way,

733
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Speaker 1: Josh Starry Nickel, Dean Lonard Man, he's gonna team too. Now.

734
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Speaker 2: I think he can fill in and he can fill

735
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Speaker 2: in with needs and get job.

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Speaker 1: You know, you watch him the preseason the second second second,

737
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Speaker 1: he was the best player on the field.

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Speaker 2: He was awesome.

739
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Speaker 4: And he told me that he's the fastest guy on

740
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Speaker 4: the team. If anybody wanted to race him, let him know.

741
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Speaker 1: He did. Darius Davis on the team.

742
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.

743
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: He's aware.

744
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 2: He's aware. I said d Davis too. He said, listen,

745
00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm the fastest on the team. D Leonard. Let him

746
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 2: know when it's time we can set up that race.

747
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, if if you're forced to wear pads

749
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Speaker 1: and maybe there's an opponent on the field, and like

750
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Speaker 1: you got a race to a particular spot, I might

751
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Speaker 1: take dayon Henley I have. He's like, I think of all, like,

752
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Speaker 1: of all the things I'm excited about, I'm being so

753
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,840
Speaker 1: excited for him, man, I feel like, and look, I

754
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: know we only got a couple snaps from Junior Colson,

755
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Speaker 1: but when those two were out there.

756
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Speaker 2: At the same time, it was different.

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Speaker 1: It right, It looked like to that to me, is

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Speaker 1: gonna be I feel like that's it's the most exciting.

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00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,000
Speaker 1: I think it's got the highest ceiling, Like what those

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00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: two guys. And look, Denzel the fat he sees it all.

761
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 1: He knows it all. You know, everything's going to be

762
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Speaker 1: locked down when he's out there. But there's the combo

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Speaker 1: of speed, smart athleticism, the way those two pieces fit together,

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Speaker 1: Junior Colson and Dyan Hanley. I think it's gonna be

765
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Speaker 1: like that to me is where this defense can really

766
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Speaker 1: really shine.

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Speaker 4: And when you mentioned junior, you mentioned smarts. This kid

768
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Speaker 4: has grown up, was raised in his defense, right yeah,

769
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 4: with Jesse Manner who was raising his defense. Knows it

770
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 4: like the back of his hand. Obviously he missed some

771
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 4: time in training camp, but he was a guy that

772
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Speaker 4: they said, you know what, let him get healthy because

773
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,959
Speaker 4: he knows the defense. He gets outing and he's barking

774
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 4: it like a five to six year, seven year vet.

775
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 4: And then you look at day On. He's so athletic.

776
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: Former wide receiver right turned linebacker. He was a special

777
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 4: team's guru in college, so he has the mentality of

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 4: a special teamer. He has the athletic ability of a

779
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: wide receiver. But then you see how he runs to

780
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Speaker 4: the ball and hits. He's a special kid.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to put into words, but you can feel

782
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: his presence on the field. You can feel Dalone's presence.

783
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Speaker 2: On the field.

784
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Speaker 3: And I think it's the perfect mix of a room

785
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 3: with a guy you've played with in Denzel, someone who's

786
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Speaker 3: a rookie but knows the system probably better than anybody

787
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Speaker 3: in junior. And then Henley, who you know has so

788
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Speaker 3: much potential to missiles.

789
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Speaker 2: He's a missile. He's just scratching the surface. You know,

790
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: he is.

791
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Speaker 4: Man, it's exciting to see that's one of the guys

792
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: we're gonna look at on Sunday and be like.

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Speaker 2: If he plays well, right, the Charges have a good

794
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: chance to win.

795
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like memons on Iran and you see

796
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 4: what he did in the preseason and he had probably

797
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 4: one of the best camps as well. So that linebacker

798
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: room being led by four time All Pro Navar Bowman, like,

799
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 4: the sky's the limit for that room.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think when you mentioned you know that that's

801
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: the X factor. If that level plays well, good chance

802
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,160
Speaker 1: to win the game of all the like, there's a

803
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: lot of question marks obviously with the health of JK.

804
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: Feel like, if he's healthy, he could be one of

805
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: the five best backs in the league. Just the way,

806
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 1: how are they going to parcel out the rotation of

807
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: the running backs? Is it hotthand do they have a

808
00:31:43,840 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: set number of snaps? Is it three backs? Are all

809
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: four active on? You know, there's so much But to me,

810
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 1: I think the biggest question mark I have is is

811
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Speaker 1: the defensive line. It's not the edges. I'm talking about

812
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: the D line and I don't know how much, I

813
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: don't know how many snaps tier Tart's gonna get. It

814
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: felt different when he was on the field, like that's

815
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 1: a guy that's in the backfield snap and he's back there.

816
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, we know Morgan Fox is capable of doing that.

817
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,959
Speaker 1: When you look at this D line room and Tito

818
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: and Poona, Morgan Fox, Matt Locke coach Arboss said yesterday

819
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Speaker 1: that he's gonna, you know, get still gonna get his

820
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,560
Speaker 1: reps there? What do you see from that group? And

821
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 1: what question? Why? Why?

822
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 2: Why?

823
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 1: Is that the one that that I feel like I'm

824
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: looking at the most what has to be answered there?

825
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: Because when you look at this defense, you see it

826
00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: in every position.

827
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Speaker 4: There's stars, right, guys who have proven themselves right for

828
00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 4: the Bolts in this organization. And then you have guys

829
00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,360
Speaker 4: at the interior D line who are younger, right, first year,

830
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 4: second year, third year guys. Then you got four that

831
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: just came over. We're not too really familiar with his game,

832
00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 4: but I'll tell you what, he's gonna be a big,

833
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 4: big anchor for this defense in the inside. Had a

834
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 4: really good camp, so that's why, you know, Yeah, poona

835
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 4: really small short but stout right, he's a big anchor

836
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 4: down and can play that nose position for the defense.

837
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: And rightfully so, there's question marks at that position because

838
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 4: it hasn't been done yet by these guys. Right, they're young,

839
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 4: but they're promising, So that would be a position that we're.

840
00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: Going to be keeping our eye on right on tier

841
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 1: like am I No, for sure, he's that's just him

842
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: taking advantage of backups when he's out there.

843
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 4: Hey, listen, it doesn't matter who you're playing, right right,

844
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, you have a job

845
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 4: to do.

846
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 2: And he went out there and he did dominated was

847
00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: setting a.

848
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 4: New line of scrimmage. Each and every play was in

849
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 4: their backfield, right, So.

850
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 3: In credit to Horties Man, that's just one of I mean, Tito,

851
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 3: listen over the over the last week, it's been nuts

852
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:25,640
Speaker 3: to turn over the back half of the roster. And

853
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,960
Speaker 3: you think the fifty three is safe, No, not so fast, right, Yeah, Taylor,

854
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 3: Heineke comes in, it's probably gonna be the number two now,

855
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: good pick up, you know, And we don't need to

856
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,440
Speaker 3: talk about Heinikee really now anymore. Hopefully hopefully never, but

857
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 3: just real quickly. I mean, this is a guy who

858
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 3: can keep you afloat. You know, he was twelve eleven

859
00:33:42,600 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 3: and one in Washington, he started a playoff game, and

860
00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: he's somebody who can kind of galvanize the team for

861
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 3: a short period of time if you need it.

862
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 2: Yes, but again, don't have to worry about that. But

863
00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: just go back to Hortiz.

864
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Speaker 3: And just what he's been able to do this offseason,

865
00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 3: not being satisfied with being staggered, you know, bringing in

866
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 3: a guy like tire Tart who actually will make a

867
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Speaker 3: difference this year, kind of continue to turn the back

868
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: half of this roster in an effort to have the

869
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 3: requisite depth you need for a seventeen game season.

870
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 2: We haven't seen that around here in a long time.

871
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, depth and depth is key, right because we all

872
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 4: know injuries happen one hundred percent injury rate this game.

873
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 4: Obviously violent game. But then when you look at Ortis,

874
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: you say, well, he's had a Super Bowl. He's won

875
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 4: a Super Bowl. Right, obviously wasn't a HEAGM, but he

876
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 4: was part of the staff. Yeah, so he knows what

877
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 4: it looks like to win. He knows what it takes

878
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 4: to win, right, he knows what it's supposed to be, like,

879
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: what's the what's the culture, what's the atmosphere, What's how

880
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 4: important depth is on a roster. So he's done a

881
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: really good job and I'm pretty sure he's not done.

882
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: And when I you know, just kind of going back

883
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: to what we were talking about with the interior of

884
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,640
Speaker 1: the line. When I when I think about how the

885
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 1: Raiders are going to do this and how, you know,

886
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: I think we forget what kind of coach Antonio Pierce is.

887
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: He's you know, they're they're similar he and Jim Harbaugh.

888
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 1: He wants to beat you up, he wants to pound it.

889
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: He wants to be the bully as well. So I

890
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: think they're gonna run it. I think everyone's thinking about

891
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: DeVante Adams and Brock Bauers and like, to me, my

892
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,919
Speaker 1: guess is they're gonna test those corners. They're gonna they're

893
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: gonna run it. That we know what the issue was

894
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: with this team against the run the last few years.

895
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 1: Like I think we're I think many people are focused

896
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: on seventeen and they should be. You know, I don't

897
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 1: I don't kind of disagree with that, But to me,

898
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be it's not just this team

899
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to run the ball. This team hasn't

900
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: be able to stop the run, you know, the last

901
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 1: couple of years. And I think we're gonna see a

902
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: lot of Semir White. We're gonna see Alex Madison. We're

903
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 1: gonna like see see And that's a big offensive line,

904
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 1: Like we know what that offensive line is. To me,

905
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: that's that's the battle. It's it's this to me, it's

906
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 1: a line of scrimmage game. Yeah, it really is. Yeah.

907
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 4: And when you look at that, I agree with you,

908
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 4: Matt Money right when you say that, because they're gonna

909
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: try to come out and they're going to try to

910
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 4: establish the line of scrimmage, take control of the game.

911
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 4: Why because they want to keep the ball out of

912
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 4: Ten's hands, right, They don't want Herbert to have the ball.

913
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 4: So they're gonna try to eat up a lot of clock. Right,

914
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 4: keep our defense honest. And now, if the defense does

915
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 4: what they're supposed to do with the front four of

916
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 4: the seven in the box or eight, depending on if

917
00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 4: we need to bring Durwan in, then that's where they're

918
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 4: gonna go to DeVante Adams and start to air it out.

919
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:08,880
Speaker 2: But they're gonna try.

920
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,320
Speaker 4: To keep us on this, try to keep us on

921
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,919
Speaker 4: this play action, play it run excuse me, run run,

922
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 4: play action, draw us up because of the success of

923
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 4: the run and now that those boys are opening them

924
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 4: for Davante, right, So I think that would be the

925
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 4: game plan and I totally agree with you.

926
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no more josh Jacobs, right.

927
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 3: So Sameer White's never really been in this spot where

928
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 3: he's like the full time guy. So we'll see what

929
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 3: happens on Sunday. You know, as far as the Chargers

930
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 3: running games concerned, we think it's gonna be JK and Guss.

931
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: We don't know what this split's gonna look like. Maybe

932
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 3: Videll gets in the mix too. I love week one

933
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 3: because you can watch as much training a lot of

934
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 3: unknown Like what do you think they're gonna do offensively?

935
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 3: Like I also I talk about the wide receivers too,

936
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 3: because like.

937
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:52,960
Speaker 1: We haven't mentioned yet, we haven't mentioned any and Justin

938
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: Herbert's quarterback, the.

939
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 3: Quarterbacks that you got Lad mcconkey's justin you got Joshua Palmer,

940
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 3: you know, on the injury report, and now I'll see

941
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 3: if he plays on Sunday. But like there's there's so

942
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 3: much unknown in that room, but we do know that

943
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 3: the equalizer is justin Herberty.

944
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 2: It elevates everybody. And you see what it looked like

945
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: when he came back to practice different. It looked different.

946
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 2: Probably one of his best practices we've seen since.

947
00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:17,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

948
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,720
Speaker 4: Right, So, I mean everyone's level picks up when Ten's

949
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: underneath the center. And as far as what it's gonna

950
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 4: look like, it's gonna be a heavy dose Ugust and JK. Right,

951
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,000
Speaker 4: I'm not sure exactly who's coming in after him. We

952
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 4: don't know that, but it's gonna be a heavy dose

953
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 4: August and JK. Thunder and lightening pounds you, pounds you,

954
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 4: pounds you. And when the opportunities present himself, we're gonna

955
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 4: let Ten showcase his arm and do his thing.

956
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 1: I wonder I keep you know, I used to do

957
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: all the fantasy stuff over at NFL Network, so I

958
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: can still get a ton of questions about who's the

959
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: number one receiver and who should I draft and what

960
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 1: and with the receivers, I don't know. I mean, it's

961
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: if Josh Palmer stays healthy, it's obviously Josh. He can

962
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,440
Speaker 1: do it all. He can play outside can play in

963
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 1: the slot. He's got great hands, he's got plenty of speed.

964
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:56,279
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

965
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: There was something about that connection between and Herbert and

966
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: Mconkee in ot As. You just could kind of see it.

967
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,560
Speaker 2: If it's a PPR situation, it could be Lad. Yeah,

968
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: it's crazy. It's crazy. You say that. Money don't mean

969
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: to cut you off, but you're fine.

970
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: It's it's fitting that we're playing the Raiders, right, And

971
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,919
Speaker 4: what I seen Ladd doing is a lot of hunter

972
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: run around for exactly a lot of motion, a lot

973
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: of stacks, a lot of choice routes right allow him

974
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 4: to create separation without having to release.

975
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: And that's how you do it. You create stacks, You

976
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 2: give him.

977
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 4: Choice routes, a lot of zig zag routes, a lot

978
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 4: of combo routes, right digs, digging goals, a lot of

979
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 4: double moves because he's so quick in short area of spacing.

980
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 2: I think Sunday you see him feature.

981
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: These Georgia Bulldogs could be the equal you know you got.

982
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 3: You got two rookies drafted in the first and early

983
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: second round in Maconukee and Bowers. You got Severe White

984
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,279
Speaker 3: in the backfield. These Georgia's skill position players could decide

985
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 3: from Georgia boy.

986
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: And we haven't mentioned Q like what I think you

987
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: know last year just really wasn't fair to him. That's

988
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: not his skill set was replacing Mike. That's not what

989
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: he did at TCU. It's not what he does best.

990
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm I don't quite know how Greg Roman's going to

991
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: use him that we talked about it with some of

992
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: those sweeps, some of those quick hitters. Feels like, and

993
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 1: I think Justin said it in his presser yesterday, like

994
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:09,799
Speaker 1: just get the ball in his hands. Just get the

995
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: ball in his hands. Yeah, And that's and by the way,

996
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,200
Speaker 1: his hands catching the ball has been kind of the issue.

997
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: So it's trying to figure out the layups. And I

998
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: don't know what those layups are. Are they quick slants?

999
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: Is it just kind of that little shovel pass on

1000
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: the suite? But it feels like with him early get that,

1001
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: just get the ball with completion.

1002
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 2: Right. It's confidence too, Deli.

1003
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 4: It's all confidence because when he was here last year,

1004
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 4: his rookie year, in training camp, he probably had the

1005
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 4: best training camp out of all the receivers, right. And

1006
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 4: then obviously we went to the season, things happen and

1007
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 4: then go his way right. But I'm not writing off Q.

1008
00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: I think, like you said, get the ball in his hands.

1009
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 4: Quick screens right now, drag rounds right now, let him

1010
00:39:47,880 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 4: catch and run right flips to him and jet sweeps, reverses,

1011
00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 4: let him get comfortable, let him get his confidence back.

1012
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: And I think once you see that, you'll see him

1013
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 2: grow as a receiver.

1014
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's where you know, everybody wants to stack the receivers,

1015
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: like who's the one, the two who's said it's not

1016
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 1: necessarily one, two or three, it's who's out there. And

1017
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, like I won't be surprised if Simmy

1018
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,800
Speaker 1: Foco's out there. Yeah, just because he's fast, he's big,

1019
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: he's comfortable and contest to catch situations I will not expect.

1020
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: I'm you know, speaking to DJ being on the you know,

1021
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,719
Speaker 1: has not practiced as of when we're recording this, So

1022
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: if he's not in the game, I could totally see

1023
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 1: him being that third guy once playing the outside that's

1024
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,399
Speaker 1: playing the X and and is out there.

1025
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,080
Speaker 4: And if Rice is out there, I'll tell you this

1026
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 4: about that kid. He wants to block and that's what

1027
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,799
Speaker 4: harballing the love about him. Obviously he's a good thing,

1028
00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 4: good young receiver. But they don't want Primadonna's that wide

1029
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,359
Speaker 4: receiver in this offense. They want you to go down

1030
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 4: there and dig out that safety on run blocks. Go

1031
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 4: down there and dig out that linebacker on run play.

1032
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 4: Excuse me, I'm run play. So you have to be

1033
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:49,920
Speaker 4: willing to block. You're not just gonna line up in

1034
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 4: so far for the Los Angeles Chargers and catch passes

1035
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 4: and not be expected.

1036
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: You know, it's you know, it's funny about that though.

1037
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: If you go back and you watch every one of

1038
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: Simmy's preseason reps, watch watch run play.

1039
00:40:59,400 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: He's another one.

1040
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 1: He is a dog yeld. It's been tackled for two

1041
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: seconds and he's dust in a safety end of the

1042
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 1: ground acts after the whistle and every time, every single I.

1043
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 2: Love that you mentioned that.

1044
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 3: You loil because, like Buddy, for good reason, everyone talks

1045
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 3: about fantasy and know who's gonna catch the most ball.

1046
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: It's it's so much more than that.

1047
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 3: Is it's so much more than that, and that's why

1048
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,359
Speaker 3: you're gonna You may see guys out there that had

1049
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 3: that one to to block.

1050
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 2: And think about block.

1051
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're talking about guy that like the block.

1052
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he was paid a lot.

1053
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: Right to catch the ball exactly, and he's still love

1054
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: and he still loved blocking.

1055
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 2: It was good at both yea.

1056
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: Raider week man.

1057
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,320
Speaker 3: It's it's fun for for us to see the fans

1058
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 3: and kind of look back to December and what happened

1059
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 3: and how like this is like a chance and maybe

1060
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 3: a little revenge against them, but get back, get back,

1061
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: but also just to start fast. You know, I think

1062
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 3: it's important when you look at this this you know

1063
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: we we can look ahead after the Raids got Carolina

1064
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 3: on the road at Pittsburgh, then the Chiefs that first

1065
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 3: quarter of your season before you're by like like, this

1066
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: is a very important vision game. Want to know in

1067
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 3: the division and try to get on a roll. And

1068
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 3: it's important because it's the division game. We all know

1069
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 3: how important division games are, right. Another reason why it's

1070
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 3: important is because it's just keep it real.

1071
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 4: The Raiders will have a lot of fans in the

1072
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 4: stadium on Sunday, Yeah, right, it is what it is.

1073
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: It's how they travel and the last.

1074
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 4: Thing you want them to do is feel any kind

1075
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 4: of home field advantage, any kind of momentum I'm no

1076
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: playing for the Chargers, playing against the Raiders, and that

1077
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 4: black hole gets to rock and you feel the momentum

1078
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 4: swing right, And that's the last thing you want them

1079
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 4: to have. You don't want them to come in here

1080
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 4: and say that they have any life to live. You

1081
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 4: want to get jump on them early, jump on them fast,

1082
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 4: beat them down.

1083
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 2: From the first quarter all the way to the fourth.

1084
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: Easier said than done, absolutely, but that has to be

1085
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:42,240
Speaker 4: the game plane.

1086
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I hit the exits early. And I've said this like

1087
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: you said, you're dead. We're not saying anything that people

1088
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: don't know. It's certainly changed dramatically. I've been this, you know,

1089
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 1: been here since day one, since this team arrived, and

1090
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: I have watched things go from here in twenty seventeen

1091
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: to here, and you see all these number ten jerseys

1092
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: and all these number three jerseys, and it's changing. With

1093
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: Jim Harball, he is a true superstar. I see that

1094
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: push this another level. The one thing that I always say, though,

1095
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 1: and I take it back, and I know people, you know,

1096
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 1: recency biased. They may not believe it because of how

1097
00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 1: good Houston was last year and what Timiko Ryans has done.

1098
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,000
Speaker 1: You played there. I have never. It was the worst

1099
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 1: atmosphere I have been in both of those games that

1100
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers played, brutal, just dead inside, no vibe. And

1101
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: I said, I will take a fifty to fifty split

1102
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: packed energy any day of though. Any football player and

1103
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: you can speak to Julia will take that any day

1104
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,319
Speaker 1: that we can get fifty switch.

1105
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 4: And I kind of like it, like bring it on,

1106
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 4: like I like it, Like you think you're gonna take

1107
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 4: over our home, Like I kind of like it. It's

1108
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: almost like being a villain, right, Like when you go

1109
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 4: on away games. I like going to away games and

1110
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 4: eighty thousand people booing you. Then when you make at up.

1111
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 4: I remember twenty eighteen, it up, You didn't. You didn't

1112
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 4: lose a game on the road outside of Los Angeles.

1113
00:43:56,120 --> 00:43:58,759
Speaker 4: You lost to the to the Rams at the coliseum.

1114
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 4: But that twenty eighteen.

1115
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 3: Year undefeated on the road when you got on an

1116
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 3: airplane up until New England, never lost on the road.

1117
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, And even dating back to my college days, I

1118
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 4: don't know. I just like playing away. I like people

1119
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 4: rooting against me and all my brothers, and we come

1120
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 4: in with one common purpose, one common goal, and then

1121
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 4: we leave there and we see all the sad faces, right,

1122
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 4: So that's what I like. So, like you said, fifty

1123
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 4: to fifty, who cares. But what you can't let them

1124
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 4: do is gain the momentum and let it feel like

1125
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: one hundred to nothing right as far as fan base,

1126
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 4: as far as crowd, as far as momentum.

1127
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll I'll just finish with this. Like

1128
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: to me, it's I've already said it. I'll say it again.

1129
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,280
Speaker 1: It's a line of scrimmage game. It's Khalil Joey Tully.

1130
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: But that that quartet gets I don't know, let's go

1131
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,920
Speaker 1: ten pressures, three sacks, and I think it's a JK

1132
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: and Gus. Remind you that this is Baltimore West and

1133
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a one hundred and fifty, one

1134
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yard Russian game. Is how this thing

1135
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: is won. It's not justin Herbert three hundred yards, you

1136
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: know out of the opener. Like, to me, that's what

1137
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: the thing looks. What's gonna decide for you?

1138
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: I got to pickyback off of money, right, leaning on

1139
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 4: the run game, a lot of stingy defense, you know,

1140
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,360
Speaker 4: Jesse getting creative on third downs with that pass rush

1141
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 4: first and second down, creating a new line of scrimmage,

1142
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:14,840
Speaker 4: forcing them into third and lungs to force them to Okay,

1143
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: we know what they like in this window, and third

1144
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 4: down with de Vonte would brock with Myers.

1145
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,879
Speaker 2: So what players do we call to combat that? Right?

1146
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 4: So I think tough, tough defense. Early on pressure Gardner Minshew,

1147
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 4: keep him in the pocket. And on offense, you got

1148
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 4: to pound the ball, pound the ball, and when opportunities

1149
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 4: present himself, let ten to his think.

1150
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, let ten do his think.

1151
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 3: The only I have like this much telling me that

1152
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 3: Herbert may aired out a little bit, Like Greg rob said,

1153
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 3: he's never he's never He's never had a quarterback like

1154
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 3: Justin right, just as smart as is all get out.

1155
00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 3: And if they want to continue to honor the run

1156
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: and Justin finds one on one opportunities on the other side,

1157
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 3: he finds his guys. So like I agree with you,

1158
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: I think that that that's the game plan. They can

1159
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,080
Speaker 3: run the ball, but I wouldn't be surprised if we

1160
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 3: saw a few deep sh just because they can.

1161
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: You'll see a few. Yeah. I just think like the

1162
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: identity of the game, Like to me, that is people saying, well,

1163
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 1: you gotta take my league neighbors. It's like, right, do

1164
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: you not know who's here? Like to see the coach

1165
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: and like, but what he's done everywhere, like what he likes,

1166
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,839
Speaker 1: Like there's that's what they're gonna do. Like this, it's

1167
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. And I'll say I'll add this

1168
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 1: just as a as a little ps as an addendum,

1169
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: not an addendum, but just as an added value sixty

1170
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 1: three to twenty one last year. I'm anxious to see,

1171
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: you know, if if it can go a certain way,

1172
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 1: what that postgame handshake is gonna look like between Antonio

1173
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: and Jim. But you know, like I'm wondering if they're

1174
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a little bow up like.

1175
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 4: You know, I mean, they're they're they're both they're both

1176
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 4: respected men in their position. Obviously Jim doing both playing

1177
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: and coaching, right, Peers doing both playing and coaching. But

1178
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, it's gonna come down

1179
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: to those guys on the field with those helmets on,

1180
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: and I know Jim will have them prepared.

1181
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: I know they'll be up for it.

1182
00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 4: I mean, no one needs to get you up for Raiders, Chargers,

1183
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: No one needs to get you up for the first

1184
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 4: week of the game.

1185
00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: First week of the season.

1186
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 4: Excuse me, right, So another point you said, Herbert taking

1187
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 4: his shots obviously.

1188
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,479
Speaker 2: Creating the run.

1189
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 4: Eight man box, single high safety corners pressed on the outside.

1190
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 2: Then he has the ability to check right.

1191
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: Hey, the out of the Raider game end last year

1192
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: here week four, remember yeah, deep shot Josh Palmer fifty

1193
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: yards on a third and whatever it was, third and

1194
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 1: eight or something like that. He takes the play action,

1195
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:27,920
Speaker 1: takes the shot downfield one game.

1196
00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 4: He has the keys to the vehicle, all right, so

1197
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 4: if he sees a certain look, obviously he will check

1198
00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:34,480
Speaker 4: out of it. But like you said, money established a

1199
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 4: run first, and when those opportunities come and they stacked

1200
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:37,839
Speaker 4: the box, that's when you let it fly.

1201
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 3: This was fun, guys, that sir, appreciate you man, my

1202
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 3: guy always ye mone of you the best guys. We

1203
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 3: will see it so far on Sunday, Week one against

1204
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 3: the Las Vegas Raiders. It's finally here and we can't

1205
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 3: wait to be a part of it. For money and jalil,

1206
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:52,960
Speaker 3: I'm Chris.

1207
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:53,759
Speaker 2: This has been charged with