Speaker 1: Hi, I'm Molly John Fast and this is Fast Politics,
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Speaker 1: if federal agents fired upon journalists and protesters when unprovoked,
Speaker 1: what would we call it? If federal agents march down
Speaker 1: busy streets, harassing civilians and demanding their papers, what would
Speaker 1: we say? I don't think we'd have any trouble calling
Speaker 1: it what it is, authoritarianism. We have such a great
Speaker 1: show for you today, The Majority Report, Sam Cedar stops
Speaker 1: by to talk all things government Shutdown. Then we'll talk
Speaker 1: to the CEO of the Onion, Ben Collins, about how
Speaker 1: Trump's retribution shut down his new mockumentary Jeffrey Epstein Bad Pedophile.
Speaker 1: But first the news.
Speaker 2: So Moley, the grift is coming from inside the house.
Speaker 2: A camera woman captured Scott Besen texting exposing the mystery
Speaker 2: we've all been wondered about. Why the fuck are we
Speaker 2: giving Argentina all this money?
Speaker 1: Why are we giving Argentina all this money?
Speaker 2: I think you should read what it's set it in
Speaker 2: the little text message from the Agriculture Sky Secretary.
Speaker 1: So here's the text message She's worried China has outmaneuvered
Speaker 1: the US by buying up Argentine soybeans at the expense
Speaker 1: of our farmers, even as the administration plans to bail
Speaker 1: out Argentina with billions of dollars. What's nice about this
Speaker 1: administration is that everything is so stupid.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Secretary of Agriculture Brooke Rowins was texting and
Speaker 2: basically saying, this is a real bad, bad, bad idea
Speaker 2: for our ecotomy.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you'll be shocked to hear, but she's right.
Speaker 1: She is very much right, very very much right. Look
Speaker 1: how Scott Bessant got photographed, How this text got for
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much stupid to unpack here
Speaker 1: Scott betch than texting photographs of it. I mean, just
Speaker 1: all bad and nutty. And also why and again, why
Speaker 1: are we bailing out Argentina? Why someone explained to me
Speaker 1: why we're bailing at Argentina.
Speaker 2: Because what we've voted for was for these people to
Speaker 2: be grifting as much as they would like. It's the
Speaker 2: freedom to grift, is administration.
Speaker 1: The freedom to grift, that is correct. So there we
Speaker 1: are Donald Trump grifting away because he loves freedom, and
Speaker 1: in this case, the freedom to grift Somalia.
Speaker 2: You've explained to listeners before that I have this rule
Speaker 2: that I don't like to talk about things that are
Speaker 2: coming up when there's so much things to analyze that
Speaker 2: have happened. But I've been waiting, like it's Christmas morning
Speaker 2: for mister Trump and Pete Hegsath to address our military leaders.
Speaker 3: Today. It was Christmas of stupid. I got Cole.
Speaker 1: All of these top military leaders from around the world,
Speaker 1: from places like Taiwan, you know, wherever they were stationed.
Speaker 1: Pete hegg Seth brought everyone back to Quantico, Virginia, and
Speaker 1: he made this speech that covered a lot of stupid,
Speaker 1: preparing for war and preparing to win, unrelenting and uncompromising
Speaker 1: in that pursuit. Not because we want war, No one
Speaker 1: here wants war, but because we love peace. Like real
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty four stuff, Got a war so that you
Speaker 1: can have peace. Got his strength so you can be weak.
Speaker 3: Don't forget the war on woke, Molly.
Speaker 1: He spent a lot of time complaining about woke. He
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time complaining about people being fat.
Speaker 3: Ironically, there was somebody there on stage with him.
Speaker 1: He cursed well, and then Donald Trump got up there.
Speaker 1: I mean, what I think is interesting is like, clearly
Speaker 1: hag Seth wanted to make a political speech. Remember there
Speaker 1: is a low key succession war going on behind the scenes,
Speaker 1: and it's like RFK Junior versus Pete hegg Seth versus JD.
Speaker 1: Van's Like, this is happening because as you know, the
Speaker 1: more exhausted Donald Trump is as he reads the teleprompter,
Speaker 1: the more that that crew is all fighting behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: So super interesting to watch heg sas decide that he's
Speaker 1: going to get this speech and then Donald Trump to
Speaker 1: come in and be like, and I'm speaking too, because
Speaker 1: remember that was never the plan until pretty recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but what has been the plan for quite a
Speaker 2: while is this deploying military members to train in the
Speaker 2: streets thing. I think this is the more worrisome statement,
Speaker 2: even if it was poorly worded or something that gets
Speaker 2: defeated a lot, because it really shows that they're talking
Speaker 2: about this all the time, and it's not good.
Speaker 1: Right, I mean, this is this thing of trying to
Speaker 1: get the troops in cities. It's not good. It breaks
Speaker 1: the law that passe Commentita's Act says that you can't
Speaker 1: just send troops willing Nelly.
Speaker 4: It's all bad.
Speaker 1: It's all bad, it's all scary, it's all worrying, it's
Speaker 1: all not what we do in this country, Somali.
Speaker 2: We had a lot of fun drops from the Epstein
Speaker 2: files last week.
Speaker 1: Three different ones, and soon we're going to have the
Speaker 1: great Jason Leopold on to talk about all of this
Speaker 1: data that they are all of his information about Epstein
Speaker 1: that they are dropping. There is a ton of information
Speaker 1: about Epstein. And what's interesting to me is you have
Speaker 1: the House Oversight Committee that has been really well run
Speaker 1: by the Great Robert Garcia, friend of the show, friend
Speaker 1: of mine also, who's done a really good job being
Speaker 1: out there getting the information. He got, the birthday book
Speaker 1: he got, you know, he's subpoenaed stuff, he's gotten it.
Speaker 1: You Know what's interesting is sometimes when Democrats are doing
Speaker 1: really well, you don't see it because you just see
Speaker 1: the information and you don't necessarily understand how you got it.
Speaker 1: But Robert Garcia is the head of Oversight and he
Speaker 1: has really done an excellent job, and he took over
Speaker 1: for Jerry Connelly. As you know, this is some thing
Speaker 1: that's gotten got me very upset because I felt that
Speaker 1: Jerry Connolly was not the right person for the job.
Speaker 1: So now there is a new candidate that has won
Speaker 1: in Arizona. Her father was the member of Congress before
Speaker 1: he died. She has run, she has won. Her name
Speaker 1: is Adelita Grihava. She's a Democrat from Arizona. She will
Speaker 1: be the two hundred and eighteen signature on the Epstein
Speaker 1: Files discharge petition once she's sworn in. You know who
Speaker 1: doesn't want to swear her in? Mike Johnson. Mike Johnson
Speaker 1: doesn't want to swear in because Mike Johnson doesn't want
Speaker 1: to release the Epstein files. And Representative Catherine Clark, also
Speaker 1: friend of the show, the number two Democrat in the House.
Speaker 1: She's going to come out swinging, which I think is
Speaker 1: really the right thing in this Any delay in swearing
Speaker 1: and representative elect necessarily deprives her constituents of representation and
Speaker 1: calls into question if the motives behind the delay is
Speaker 1: to further upoid the release of the Epstein files, which
Speaker 1: why else would why else would Mike Johnson do this?
Speaker 1: Why else? What would the other reason he would do
Speaker 1: for not doing this?
Speaker 2: There's no other reason Aside from that, they play dirty,
Speaker 2: which is what I wish there would be even a
Speaker 2: little bit of effort on Hakeeman Schumer's side would be
Speaker 2: just give me twenty five percent of the energy that
Speaker 2: they give.
Speaker 3: Please.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's good that she was out there, and
Speaker 1: it's good that she was talking about it, and it
Speaker 1: is for sure, for sure the right thing. But yes,
Speaker 1: that is true. Sam Cedar is the host of The
Speaker 1: Majority Report. Sam Cedar, Welcome to Fast.
Speaker 5: Politics, Molly, thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: Governments get a shut down. Everything's going great.
Speaker 5: I am of the opinion that the government has been
Speaker 5: more or less inoperative for months, short of its fascist
Speaker 5: wing that they have deployed to Chicago, in LA and
Speaker 5: the city coming to you Tennessee.
Speaker 6: You know, look, there's been.
Speaker 5: A lot of ice activity in New York as well,
Speaker 5: in the Bronx and bedsty and we're just going to
Speaker 5: get more of that. But in the meantime the other
Speaker 5: government functions. In fact, this week there's one hundred and
Speaker 5: fifty four thousand government employees who took the buyout, which
Speaker 5: is the highest number I think ever on record for
Speaker 5: a year. They have not been working for months. We've
Speaker 5: been paying them, they've not been working for months. I mean,
Speaker 5: so government shutdowns are bad as a political matter. I
Speaker 5: think the American public is going to be aware of
Speaker 5: what is happening in a way that they haven't been
Speaker 5: aware until now. And part of that is a failure
Speaker 5: of political leadership from the Democrats too, in my estimation,
Speaker 5: democratic leadership, I.
Speaker 1: Should say, yeah, you know, like I spend a lot
Speaker 1: of time thinking about how different it was in twenty
Speaker 1: sixteen than it is now, Like how in twenty sixteen
Speaker 1: there was a feeling that this is not who we are,
Speaker 1: and in twenty twenty four there's a feeling this is
Speaker 1: exactly who we are, right Like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I think that feeling is also a
Speaker 5: function of like where you and I might sit in society.
Speaker 5: I mean I had conversations I remember, explicitly, you know,
Speaker 5: having conversations with black people, brown people who are like
Speaker 5: not surprised at all, this is exactly who we are.
Speaker 5: But yes, I think that there was a much bigger
Speaker 5: surprise element. The other big factor, frankly, was the courts
Speaker 5: did not have two hundred and fifty Trump appointees in
Speaker 5: twenty sixteen, and Russell Vote had not had four years
Speaker 5: to figure out how to do this in a way
Speaker 5: that would would be more expedient, and then I would
Speaker 5: say there was far greater unity now the Republican Party,
Speaker 5: you know, the last vestiges of what the Republican Party
Speaker 5: were killed off, so there was no pretending anymore.
Speaker 6: And they were in Bolden.
Speaker 5: Because they were let back in. So all those things
Speaker 5: are different. It's a very different environment, I think. On
Speaker 5: the Democratic side, I think there is also a different
Speaker 5: environment because there is a I think, at least amongst
Speaker 5: like people, not so much necessarily the political class, awareness
Speaker 5: of their political late leaders failing to meet the moment.
Speaker 5: I really do think that's out there. I mean, you
Speaker 5: see it in the polling. Democrats are a poll worse
Speaker 5: than Republicans, you know, even.
Speaker 1: Though it's all slightly better but still not well.
Speaker 5: Okay, I mean slightly better. I mean, I think these
Speaker 5: people are still going to vote for Democrats largely, but
Speaker 5: the dissatisfaction with Democrats between the dissatisfaction Democrats in twenty
Speaker 5: sixteen and Democrats now, it's more Democrats who are dissatisfied
Speaker 5: with the Democratic Party, and that I think is is
Speaker 5: much more pronounced.
Speaker 1: I mean, there are a number of really bad things
Speaker 1: happening at once. But it does feel as if there's
Speaker 1: also a sort of tea party movement in the Democratic Party.
Speaker 5: Yeah, but if you're saying that there is an insurgency
Speaker 5: and there's a grassroots like a sort of dissatisfaction, I
Speaker 5: think that's absolutely true. I think it's necessarily different because
Speaker 5: of the way that the Democratic Party has viewed its
Speaker 5: base and populism versus the way that Republicans did. So
Speaker 5: it's it's, you know, it's gonna be a struggle. It
Speaker 5: played out in the Harris campaign, I think too, and
Speaker 5: I think it's you know, it's pretty clear who won
Speaker 5: that argument. And I think a lot of what we're
Speaker 5: seeing now is the tide is turning and it's going
Speaker 5: to play out. It's gonna get you know, like, look
Speaker 5: to me if you want to see how this really
Speaker 5: plays out in.
Speaker 1: My mind, Graham Platner, and if Mills jumps in at Mills.
Speaker 5: Yeah, if Mills jumps in and she will as the
Speaker 5: as Chuck Schumer and Christian Gillier Joe Brand's candidate, You're
Speaker 5: going to see it play out there. And I think
Speaker 5: that's going to be really an important primary.
Speaker 1: Do you think she jumps in, because my sense is
Speaker 1: that at seventy nine, running for the Senate is kind
Speaker 1: of I mean, she said she doesn't want to.
Speaker 5: Has she I read as like as recently as a
Speaker 5: week ago that she was leaning towards it.
Speaker 1: Okay, so I mean maybe she does. But what I
Speaker 1: had read lost.
Speaker 6: Do I think she wants it?
Speaker 5: I imagine she probably wants to retire, But I think she's
Speaker 5: also getting a lot of pressure from, like I say,
Speaker 5: the Senate Campaign Committee and Chuck Schumer. I absolutely think
Speaker 5: it's a huge mistake to run somebody who's going to
Speaker 5: be seventy nine when they.
Speaker 6: Turn into the governorship.
Speaker 5: But this is where I think that that dynamic is
Speaker 5: playing out, where you have Schumer and Jillibrand pushing someone
Speaker 5: in a desperate attempt to I think, I mean, I
Speaker 5: don't know what. I don't know how someone a rational
Speaker 5: person thinks this is a good idea, particularly in this environment,
Speaker 5: particularly when we lost the last election because we had
Speaker 5: a candidate who you know, originally was you know, too
Speaker 5: old and would not concede that notion. Where we've had
Speaker 5: we are waiting on releasing the Epstein files to seat
Speaker 5: a Democrat because we lost three Democrats to death in
Speaker 5: the past nine months where we watched Dianne Feinstein, and
Speaker 5: by Diane Feinstein, really we have to say, like her
Speaker 5: staff essentially keep her in office all the things that
Speaker 5: we saw in terms of the Supreme Court and whatnot.
Speaker 5: I don't know if it would have made a difference
Speaker 5: we had somebody who was sort of you know, aware
Speaker 5: of her surroundings at that time. But I mean to
Speaker 5: not see the abject fallacy of perceiving a candidate to
Speaker 5: be strong at age seventy nine as they enter into
Speaker 5: the office, I think is just insane.
Speaker 1: It's repeating a mistake the party has recently made. There
Speaker 1: are just a bunch of different sort of arguments for
Speaker 1: and against the shutdown, which is we are which by
Speaker 1: the time people listen to this will be either about
Speaker 1: to go into it or have just gone into it.
Speaker 1: There's an argument to be made. I mean, the base,
Speaker 1: the Democratic base definitely wants a shutdown, and Jeffreys Camp
Speaker 1: has wanted a shutdown since March, right, I mean, they
Speaker 1: were for a shutdown in March. So there is an argument.
Speaker 1: And it was Schumer who caved in March because of
Speaker 1: the threats of you know that it will mean more
Speaker 1: power for the Trump administration. So there's an arguments.
Speaker 5: Sensibly right right, public argument was yes, right.
Speaker 1: But again so there is an argument to be made
Speaker 1: that shutting down the government actually elevates the fight about healthcare.
Speaker 1: But again it's a dangerous gambal because Trump is already
Speaker 1: saying that it's about healthcare for illegals, and what is
Speaker 1: true and not true in this post truth world doesn't
Speaker 1: necessarily matter if enough people believe it. So do you
Speaker 1: think it's good, do you think it's bad? And where
Speaker 1: do you come down on.
Speaker 5: I think they should have done this. In March, Donald
Speaker 5: Trump put out a video after Chuck Schumer had come
Speaker 5: out and said, I think the President has finally heard us.
Speaker 5: Which it's very nice of Chuck Schumer to say that
Speaker 5: Donald Trump is a reasonable person and know he is listening,
Speaker 5: and remind everybody how they were locked out of the
Speaker 5: White House and only we're allowed in at Trump's behest.
Speaker 5: I mean, it is horrible, horrible politics. It's in my estimation.
Speaker 5: But moments after, not moments an hour after Chuck Schumer
Speaker 5: said that, Donald Trump posted an AI version of Chuck
Speaker 5: Schumer and Hakim Jeffries. Jakim Jeffries was in a sombrero
Speaker 5: with a you know, a cartoonish mustache. There was Mexican
Speaker 5: music playing, and Chuck Schimer was saying yes.
Speaker 1: And not to put too fine a point on it.
Speaker 5: And Chuck Schumer was ai generated saying, you know, everybody
Speaker 5: hates us, and we want illegals to come in the
Speaker 5: country because they're going to ultimately vote for us. My
Speaker 5: point being that we didn't need a government shutdown, We
Speaker 5: didn't need to give a trumpet an excuse he went
Speaker 5: and did that. That is the new reality to operate
Speaker 5: at this moment because you are afraid of how the
Speaker 5: Trump administration is going to lie about you, or the
Speaker 5: Republicans in the House are going to rely a lie
Speaker 5: about you, and to operate in such a way that, like,
Speaker 5: if we power enough then maybe they won't notice we're
Speaker 5: here is absurd. The reason why Chuck Schumer is doing this,
Speaker 5: the reason why Chuck Schumer would not want to shut
Speaker 5: down the government is because there is a belief in
Speaker 5: democratic leadership that if we don't do anything, if we
Speaker 5: just make people think that we don't exist, then the
Speaker 5: midterms will be exclusively a referendum on Trump, and that's
Speaker 5: what we need to win, and it is it could work, certainly,
Speaker 5: like in a secular cycle environment, it should work. There
Speaker 5: are headwinds in so far as like there's going to
Speaker 5: be redistricting.
Speaker 1: It didn't work in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: It did not work in twenty twenty four, not at all.
Speaker 5: And if you're relying on people to be aware of
Speaker 5: what Donald Trump is doing and why it's bad, you
Speaker 5: nibble around the edges, like you make the issue not
Speaker 5: extending Obamacare like.
Speaker 6: Really is that? Like is that really that some total
Speaker 6: of like is that even now?
Speaker 5: That may be part of it, but like the idea
Speaker 5: that the Democrats don't have to take a position on
Speaker 5: anything is a total fallacy. It is like the the
Speaker 5: vacuum that they leave allows the Republicans to run roughshot
Speaker 5: over them. And the it is astonishing to me that like, Okay,
Speaker 5: Donald Trump is completely lying about you. The JD Vance
Speaker 5: is out there, He's completely lying about what you're even
Speaker 5: holding out for. How do you walk up to those
Speaker 5: microphones in that press conference right right? Just as a
Speaker 5: political matter, the only time that you are guaranteed to
Speaker 5: have the news cover what you say broadly speaking, is
Speaker 5: when you walk out of that meeting with the president,
Speaker 5: and so you get up there and you don't say, well,
Speaker 5: we're we're about extensions on Obamacare and recision and pocket recision.
Speaker 5: Nobody knows what that means. I mean, you and I
Speaker 5: know what that means. But we do this professionally. You
Speaker 5: get up there and you go. Donald Trump has been
Speaker 5: cutting services for people illegally. Donald Trump wants to raise
Speaker 5: your insurance rates. We want to stop that, and we're
Speaker 5: not going to sign on to this unless he agrees
Speaker 5: to it. Donald Trump is destroying farmers with tariffs.
Speaker 6: We want to stop that.
Speaker 5: You and I know that has nothing to do with
Speaker 5: the budget, but you could restore Congress's ability to shut
Speaker 5: down the tariffs. And you know what they're lying, Wake
Speaker 5: up and smell the effing coffee. It is example after
Speaker 5: example after example of the failure of democratic leadership to
Speaker 5: understand this moment. They may win by pretending they don't exist.
Speaker 5: I don't know where they go from there. Frankly, it's
Speaker 5: probably you know, I mean, we saw what happens when
Speaker 5: you do that. I mean, that's what Kama Harris ran on,
Speaker 5: like no change, But I think that's leaving a lot
Speaker 5: up to chance. Frankly, you need to have a message,
Speaker 5: and I cannot tell you what the Democratic message is
Speaker 5: because they have explicitly avoided having one. No, I mean
Speaker 5: you can read you can read Carvel from February. Don't
Speaker 5: do anything is what he said, and they are following
Speaker 5: that to a t.
Speaker 1: So it was a really good piece in the New
Speaker 1: York Times opinion section yesterday about the idea that there's
Speaker 1: a class war coming to the Democratic Party that I'm
Speaker 1: not sure did you read that piece.
Speaker 5: I haven't read that piece, but I that would not
Speaker 5: surprise me.
Speaker 1: The story about how you either run as populous or
Speaker 1: you basically give up. I mean, that's essentially what that.
Speaker 1: There is a populist lane, and it's available. Almost nothing
Speaker 1: else is available.
Speaker 7: Really, what I mean, what else you tell me, like
Speaker 7: even like even as a like Kama Harris ran as,
Speaker 7: I am republican friendly at least you know Cheney style republicanism,
Speaker 7: which it didn't work.
Speaker 6: That did not work.
Speaker 1: No, there are not a lot of white women who
Speaker 1: loveless Cheney who have decided they're going to vote for Democrats.
Speaker 5: It's it's even worse than that. What they did is
Speaker 5: they basically said, Donald Trump is not part of the establishment,
Speaker 5: right because we have the establisher right here. We are
Speaker 5: the Republicans and the Democrats. He's somewhere out he's like
Speaker 5: a third party.
Speaker 8: And that made him a little more like that's great.
Speaker 8: I mean, Donald trumple's running on as a change candidate
Speaker 8: and as an outsider. And Kamala Harris went around the
Speaker 8: country and said he's an outsider and he's going to
Speaker 8: bring change and we're not.
Speaker 6: But as a I mean, what is the other option?
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, aside from the fact that
Speaker 5: we desperately need that, because if you look at like
Speaker 5: all the economic indicators, and this is why I think
Speaker 5: the Biden administration got caught up the economic industry indicators
Speaker 5: on you know, like top line paper. I think things
Speaker 5: are going to start to look worse soon. But the
Speaker 5: reason why they're maintaining is because we have such incredible
Speaker 5: wealth and equality in this country that literally twenty percent
Speaker 5: of the people are scaffolding all of these economic numbers.
Speaker 5: And it does not tell us the story. These economic
Speaker 5: indicators do not tell us the story that they used
Speaker 5: to tell us thirty years ago or forty years ago.
Speaker 5: Because we have such incredible wealth inequality. Now that a
Speaker 5: concentrated group of people can support what looks like good
Speaker 5: economic indications while eighty percent of the population suffers. You
Speaker 5: need to address this. We need a popular economic populism
Speaker 5: without a doubt. What fascinates me about the only thing
Speaker 5: that's attempted to rival it is this sort of like
Speaker 5: amorphous abundance agenda, which is, you know, backed by open
Speaker 5: AI people. They've done the hundred wait.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait wait, I want you to do this because
Speaker 1: Jesse is obsessed with this. I think it needs a
Speaker 1: little more of an explainer. So there's a lane in
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party that's populism, and that's Mondnnie, that's AOC,
Speaker 1: that's Bernie, that's people who actually breaks her. And then
Speaker 1: there's this other Murphy.
Speaker 5: We should say, like Murphy's trying to get into this, Yes, Murphy,
Speaker 5: you know, I think like even Van Holland is starting
Speaker 5: to get there.
Speaker 6: I mean, look, that's where it's that's where it's going.
Speaker 6: It's so right, like.
Speaker 1: It has to in our house. We don't say van who,
Speaker 1: we say van Holland, right, right, But I want you
Speaker 1: to talk about this sort of highly astro turf abundance agenda.
Speaker 5: There was a real concern that, you know, and I
Speaker 5: had my problems with the Biden administration, particularly in the
Speaker 5: context of Gaza and Israel. As it turns out, probably
Speaker 5: the majority of the country did too. But be that
Speaker 5: as it may, the Biden administ administration was full of
Speaker 5: people who were pro labor and full of people who
Speaker 5: were anti concentrations of wealth that manifested itself in the
Speaker 5: you know, anti trust and whatnot.
Speaker 1: It's like Lena Khan.
Speaker 5: Lena Khan, Jonathan Canter at the DOJ others, you know,
Speaker 5: sort of like Warrenites and sand to Rights. In many respects,
Speaker 5: in those two areas there was a Kamala Harris represented
Speaker 5: an opportunity for people who don't like those agendas to
Speaker 5: you know who whose business is a function of weakening
Speaker 5: labor standards or concentrate of wealth i e. Big tech,
Speaker 5: largely gig economy.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 5: Her brother in law famously was like one of the council.
Speaker 1: For uber Tony.
Speaker 5: She had I can't remember her name now, woman who
Speaker 5: worked with her on her debate prep was literally representing
Speaker 5: Google in the anti trust site that the US government
Speaker 5: was bringing.
Speaker 1: So lots of sense corporations are people too.
Speaker 5: Corporations are people too. Mark Cuban's coming in as a
Speaker 5: spokesperson say we're gonna get rid of this anti trust stuff,
Speaker 5: but they had no sort of like movement behind it.
Speaker 5: And simultaneously, Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson were compiling essays
Speaker 5: that they'd written over the years, some of which, as
Speaker 5: her clients, were largely about local housing regulations to build
Speaker 5: more housing. Derek's were He had a big piece about
Speaker 5: why grants weren't given to scientists.
Speaker 6: And they needed to stitch it together.
Speaker 5: And if you've read the book, which I have, the
Speaker 5: idea that the anti tax movement that spurred that inhibited
Speaker 5: government research can be tied together with local housing projects
Speaker 5: or environmental policies that inhibited growth supposedly is a big stretch,
Speaker 5: but they needed to do it for the book, and
Speaker 5: I think they thought like, Okay, this is going to
Speaker 5: be sort of like, you know, biting around the margins
Speaker 5: of a second Biden term. But Harris came in. It
Speaker 5: gave an opportunity for these people to come in and
Speaker 5: maybe get a hold of this administration. The tech people
Speaker 5: wanted to promote the book. They put one hundred and
Speaker 5: twenty million dollars behind an abundance thing. You can google it.
Speaker 5: They decided to do it. I think it was like
Speaker 5: a couple months ago. It was like a you know,
Speaker 5: under the abundance rubric, and I think it became an
Speaker 5: attempt to create a counter movement. But there's no constituency
Speaker 5: for this movement. And the idea that like we need
Speaker 5: to get rid of housing regulations for public housing that
Speaker 5: is too precious about asthma, you know, filters when housing
Speaker 5: is built near a highway to you know, prevent asthma.
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm sure there are housing regulations in San
Speaker 5: Francisco that could use reform, But to make this a
Speaker 5: broad movement, that's been the only sort of pushback, and
Speaker 5: it's unclear, you know. And Ezra just I think got
Speaker 5: sort of taken apart a little bit by Todd and
Speaker 5: Hasey Coats this week about saying that we should have
Speaker 5: candidates that are anti abortion, which is also sort of
Speaker 5: like a retread, like you can start with progressive populism,
Speaker 5: you know, some type of economic populism, and then within
Speaker 5: the context of like more red conservatively socialized states, you
Speaker 5: can allow for some latitude for these people, but there
Speaker 5: needs to be a fundamental why does the Democratic Party exist?
Speaker 5: The only space for them to do that, it seems
Speaker 5: to me, is to follow like an FDR for freedoms
Speaker 5: type of variant, which is, you know, people should have
Speaker 5: the freedom to live their lives without fear of a
Speaker 5: health crisis bankrupting them. And people should be able to
Speaker 5: support themselves with a high, you know, quality job and
Speaker 5: not feel like captured by their employers. And we should
Speaker 5: not have huge amounts of concentrated wealth, which breeds concentrated power.
Speaker 5: We've seen this, like we just saw four people basically
Speaker 5: financed Donald Trump's campaign.
Speaker 6: So I don't know what the opposite.
Speaker 5: I don't know what the alternative is to an economic populism,
Speaker 5: but it is really things are not going to go
Speaker 5: back to the way they were. Donald Trump has already
Speaker 5: eviscerated huge swaths of our government functions, and we're going
Speaker 5: to have to have a fundamental change in our politics,
Speaker 5: both as a political matter to get elected in.
Speaker 6: My opinion, and as a.
Speaker 5: Policy matter slash political matter to get re elected. There's
Speaker 5: going to have to there's going to have to be
Speaker 5: real delivering of an economic justice essentially where the other
Speaker 5: eighty percent of the country gets to participate in what
Speaker 5: the twenty percent is participating.
Speaker 1: In now, Sam Cedar, thank you, Thank.
Speaker 5: You, Molly.
Speaker 1: Ben Collins is the editor of The Onion and their
Speaker 1: new movie Jeffrey Epstein Bad Pedophile, is out on October third.
Speaker 1: Welcome to Fast Politics, Ben Collins.
Speaker 4: Thank you for having me, Molly. It's been a very
Speaker 4: nice time since the last seen him.
Speaker 8: Thanks.
Speaker 1: Thanks.
Speaker 4: Have gotten progressively better in America since I last seenis hurtainly?
Speaker 1: Is that true? I don't think that is true. That's
Speaker 1: that patented onion sarcasm. So you're on to talk about something,
Speaker 1: but I want, you know, first explain to us what
Speaker 1: you do and how you do it, because I think
Speaker 1: our listener's going to be super psyched. So tell us
Speaker 1: what you do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna see you of the Onion. I make
Speaker 4: sure The Onion still exists, which is a very difficult
Speaker 4: task considering what it is. We try to find the
Speaker 4: sentence that kind of everybody's thinking about on a day
Speaker 4: day basis but can't say out loud for either because
Speaker 4: they're afraid to say it or because they don't have
Speaker 4: the vocabulary for it. Certainly there's a lot of people
Speaker 4: afraid to say it right now, so like business is
Speaker 4: booming to that effect. We're very proud to expand into
Speaker 4: a different realm this week, and I will talk to
Speaker 4: you about that if possible.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I mean it is very cool that you
Speaker 1: guys save The Onion from bankruptcy, created this amazing thing
Speaker 1: that now millions of people read right, millions of people.
Speaker 4: Yeah, The Onion in terms of scope and scale is
Speaker 4: larger than it's ever been. We have we're growing one
Speaker 4: hundred percent something year over year in terms of social
Speaker 4: media perssons and stuff. And now we have a physical
Speaker 4: newspaper again that fifty seven thousand people get mail.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm fucking believable someone who all I want
Speaker 1: is for there to be a real, like thriving media.
Speaker 1: This is pretty amazing. But now not just satisfied with
Speaker 1: being one of the very few media outlets that is
Speaker 1: still alive, you guys have branched out, so talk to
Speaker 1: me about this.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: This week we are releasing a documentary called Jeffrey Epstein,
Speaker 4: Bad Pedophile tell us More. Yeah, I personally don't think
Speaker 4: he's good Jeffrey Epstein, but some people can disagree. Wala,
Speaker 4: do you want to go on a limb here?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 4: Okay, good, I think.
Speaker 1: Now tell us why you decided to make this movie.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So there's a big hairy deal about this whole
Speaker 4: thing and how it came about and why it's in
Speaker 4: weird independent theaters all throughout the country right now. So
Speaker 4: about now, about eight weeks ago, the staff was sitting
Speaker 4: around and they were talking about how they wanted to
Speaker 4: something weird and big, big and different about Jeffrey Epstein.
Speaker 4: This is around the time that Trump started having super
Speaker 4: dodgy about it and like start realize that there's something
Speaker 4: going on there. There was that probably wasn't gonna go away.
Speaker 4: So we do let to turn a screw here at
Speaker 4: the onion when we see the opportunity and this to
Speaker 4: do it. What we decided to do was put O
Speaker 4: and n our wonderful flagship YouTube series Union News Network
Speaker 4: on Hiatus fer Met and have him go whole hog
Speaker 4: on one specific topic, which is Jeffrey Epstein. So within
Speaker 4: a couple of days they came up with a script
Speaker 4: that was unbelievable, incredibly funny, and we're like, just go
Speaker 4: at it. Do what you gotta do by whatever you
Speaker 4: got to buy, they bought, I believe. I remember most alarming.
Speaker 4: One day I walked in and there was a chainsaw
Speaker 4: with fake blood all over it. So that's the kind
Speaker 4: of thing that is in this that is in this documentary.
Speaker 4: So it's really good, it's really funny, and anyone we
Speaker 4: showed it to I was like, what can we do?
Speaker 5: How can we help?
Speaker 4: So we had a national theater chain that was about
Speaker 4: to air this all throughout the country on October second,
Speaker 4: which is Thursday, and then Charlie Kirkott shot, which is
Speaker 4: horrible and a horrific thing to happen. But the immediate
Speaker 4: reaction of that distributor was, oh, is Donald Trump in this?
Speaker 4: And by the way, I never actually the pr team
Speaker 4: around that theater never actually watched the movie. They just asked,
Speaker 4: is Donald Trump in it? And we're like, yeah, Donald
Speaker 4: Trumps in it. But I can't explain this to you.
Speaker 4: He's in the nineteen ninety five Chicago Bulls in this movie.
Speaker 4: I can't explain The studio wait, what, yeah, I know
Speaker 4: you'll see and they said, okay, well we're pulling it.
Speaker 4: So they pulled the distribution for this thing. So we
Speaker 4: went from having national distribution for this movie to none
Speaker 4: because Jeffrey Epstein is friends with Donald Trump, who was
Speaker 4: friends with Charlie Kirk. And I just think if we're
Speaker 4: in a situation in this country where if you can't
Speaker 4: make fun of the world's biggest pedophile because he was
Speaker 4: friends with a guy who was friends with the guy,
Speaker 4: then we have gone further off the deep band in
Speaker 4: terms of speech problems. Then you would anticipate then the
Speaker 4: Jimmy Kimmel stuff happened as well, like that was this
Speaker 4: is all precursor to that. Nowhere near that level. Obviously,
Speaker 4: nobody made a phone call from the FCC to be like,
Speaker 4: don't air this thing. We still decided, like, you know what,
Speaker 4: We're not gonna can this thing. We're gonna get back
Speaker 4: on the horse. And we called every independent theater we knew,
Speaker 4: and within a few days and we told people, if
Speaker 4: you want to air this thing in your theater, you
Speaker 4: can just have it for free. And within a few
Speaker 4: days we were in I think we're now up to
Speaker 4: like thirty or forty, maybe fifty, I don't know how many,
Speaker 4: but we're in many more theaters than we were before,
Speaker 4: and independent theaters all throughout the country are airing this
Speaker 4: thing on Thursday night. Most of them are sold outs.
Speaker 4: We're airing this one from like Droplin, Missouri, to Prince
Speaker 4: Edward Island, you know, to Manhattan and LA and in Chicago.
Speaker 4: It's an event, and I'm very proud of everybody for
Speaker 4: stepping up, Like indie theaters, indie media throughout the world
Speaker 4: right now is stepping up when everybody else is really failing.
Speaker 1: So why do you think that satire matters? Because we've seen,
Speaker 1: like we're in this moment where there's been you know,
Speaker 1: basically a takeover of everything in a way that is
Speaker 1: kind of shocking. Kimmel was I think meaningful because it
Speaker 1: showed that people don't want their their freedom of expression
Speaker 1: taken away, you know. But there are very few sort
Speaker 1: of lights in the darkness, and I'm thinking about like
Speaker 1: South Park is another one. Why do you think this
Speaker 1: this is happening? And why do you think that you're surviving?
Speaker 4: First of all, I think it's happening because of a
Speaker 4: bunch of billionaires decided it needed to happen. The guy
Speaker 4: who just took over the did the whole CBS takeover
Speaker 4: the Ellison family, which just took over CBS fired Stephen
Speaker 4: Colbert is going to replace it with Barry Weis's fun
Speaker 4: little anti woke situation. It is also attempting to buy
Speaker 4: Warner Brothers and is buying TikTok right, one guy.
Speaker 1: The richest guy in the world for the second richest
Speaker 1: guy in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Ellison family, they're all friends and family with
Speaker 4: Donald Trump. Right. They also own Oracle, which drives and
Speaker 4: funnels a lot of money to a lot of people
Speaker 4: in the tech world on the software as a service
Speaker 4: and business and business side. There so one side, and
Speaker 4: then you've you know, obviously of the Murdocks. The Murdocks
Speaker 4: and the are now going to be the second largest
Speaker 4: far rights owners of major media companies. There's really not
Speaker 4: be on the other side, and the people could be
Speaker 4: on the other side are just making deals because we're
Speaker 4: in it, by the way, separately, by the way, we
Speaker 4: are in an AI bubble. And this is like YouTube yesterday.
Speaker 4: YouTube kind of deal instead of fighting a very easy
Speaker 4: to win lawsuit with the with the administration, they kind
Speaker 4: of deal because they're going to need to be in
Speaker 4: line when the AI bailouts happen in a few months.
Speaker 4: Maybe you know, if we're lucky, maybe a few years
Speaker 4: so because the AI bubble is holding up the United
Speaker 4: States colomy present. So this moment, yeah, all of these things,
Speaker 4: you know, this is all out in the open. These
Speaker 4: this is always George Carlin once said, it's all one
Speaker 4: big club, and you ain't in it. The good news
Speaker 4: is independent people and people with hearts and oolts who
Speaker 4: don't want to be a part of this thing can
Speaker 4: still fight back. But you have your podcast. That's why
Speaker 4: a lot of people out in the world are thriving
Speaker 4: independent media right now. That's why Jimmy Kimble, who I
Speaker 4: know to be a very good person who does everything
Speaker 4: you can to get up and coming comedians onto his
Speaker 4: shows and supports people who don't have any sort of
Speaker 4: runway into that industry. He supports those people. That's why
Speaker 4: he stood up. It's because he's he has value. And
Speaker 4: by the way, I just want to make it clear,
Speaker 4: when you stand up against this guy, it's not just
Speaker 4: good for the soul, it's not just good for the country.
Speaker 4: It's good for the bottom line. I wish more people
Speaker 4: understood this. Yeah, people won't like this shit, what is
Speaker 4: going on right now. People don't fucking like it. They
Speaker 4: don't want to be a part of it. And when
Speaker 4: you stand up to this guy, when you stand for
Speaker 4: this administration, people come to you. Jimmy Jimmy kmble of
Speaker 4: the second high rated show of all time, and this
Speaker 4: is when he started twenty years ago, Ratings across the
Speaker 4: board were like ten times what they are now. He's
Speaker 4: going to be the late night show that survived because
Speaker 4: of this. We saw this as well here at the Onion.
Speaker 4: We had a crossroads moment after the election where we
Speaker 4: could have, you know, made slice of life jokes all
Speaker 4: day long about how sandwiches taste funny or whatever, or
Speaker 4: we could actually, you know, stand up for what this
Speaker 4: place is. We've written things of the Supreme Court in
Speaker 4: favor of the first Amount. In the past, we've done
Speaker 4: all this stuff in fairs of the first Amount, because
Speaker 4: that's what we are principled about speech. So we didn't
Speaker 4: take a step back here and say we're not going
Speaker 4: to fight. We took a step back here and said
Speaker 4: we're the only people left, so we may as well
Speaker 4: give it a shot.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that only people laugh, so we might as well
Speaker 1: give it a shot. I've had that dot like so
Speaker 1: many times. Yeah, you know, like, haven't you had that
Speaker 1: thought constantly?
Speaker 4: We're standing on the rubble of what our immediate ecosystem
Speaker 4: used to be, and the only people who don't see
Speaker 4: it that way are the people who own the rubble.
Speaker 4: Those people are buying dead platforms, they're buying remnants, and
Speaker 4: the real influence comes with what's next. I'm not like
Speaker 4: giving Democrats advice here, I'm just saying, don't fight the
Speaker 4: last war. The last war's there is a wide open
Speaker 4: lane into the future to build something on top of
Speaker 4: this rubble. You know, we've done this for the last year,
Speaker 4: and we've had a lot of success in building a
Speaker 4: We're like Painfleteers. We built a newspaper in twenty four
Speaker 4: in twenty twenty five that is enormous. We're going to
Speaker 4: be the We are the I think number eleven or
Speaker 4: twelve based news paper in the United States right now.
Speaker 4: It's because people want to support this. People want to
Speaker 4: support people fighting back and saying funny stuff, joking around
Speaker 4: and being on the right side here.
Speaker 1: People want news. And since almost all the newspapers are
Speaker 1: gone because they were rolled up by private equity shops,
Speaker 1: like people actually want what we do.
Speaker 4: Yes, there's no question. We are in an environment where,
Speaker 4: just as in the future there will be like water wars,
Speaker 4: we are in an information where the best information you
Speaker 4: can get, the best way to protect your family from
Speaker 4: all this stuff unfortunately costs money now, which is really
Speaker 4: really right. I wish somebody would create this publication. But
Speaker 4: if you were to have a kid right now, you
Speaker 4: would be absolutely bombarded with complete fucking bullshit. You would
Speaker 4: tell your kid, you would tell the parent not to
Speaker 4: have tail in all for some fucking reason, you would
Speaker 4: not get your kid vaccinated because you're trusting the government
Speaker 4: and now and all that is wrong in what elites
Speaker 4: do in those moments. They are getting their kids vaccinated,
Speaker 4: they're taking time, but they have better access information because
Speaker 4: they can pay for it. So now we're kind of
Speaker 4: all in this mode. Have to do what we can
Speaker 4: to give that information that only the elites get, the
Speaker 4: only the really rich people get while they lie in public,
Speaker 4: and give them the real information at the at the
Speaker 4: lower level. And that's what independent media can and should
Speaker 4: do here. And we have to do a service to people.
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking about like RFK who got his
Speaker 1: kids vacs and ate it but is anti vax right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm thinking of all of them, got them cut
Speaker 4: their kids back, their anti vacus exact. They don't, they
Speaker 4: don't believe it. They're just selling you stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is kind of amazing that we got here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like you and I have been
Speaker 1: doing this for such a long time, Like I knew
Speaker 1: you at NBC. It does feel like, you know, we
Speaker 1: are like in the dystopia in a way that I
Speaker 1: never thought we would be.
Speaker 4: I think about this all the time, almost every night
Speaker 4: we go to bed. Kat and I talked to talk
Speaker 4: about this all time. Kat, my girlfriends. Kata would zale
Speaker 4: the lady. You got fucking power bombed by ice a
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. It's horrible for Congress, right for Congress,
Speaker 4: and you should go. But we talked about all the
Speaker 4: Times's just like why is it us? Why is it
Speaker 4: because I'm incumbent on us? Like I'm the joky funny guy, right,
Speaker 4: so kind of is she? And so kind of are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: No, all, but we're like the last people who were
Speaker 4: just like no, I just refuse to accept that this
Speaker 4: is how I'm going to live for the rest of
Speaker 4: my life is under the thumb of this shit. I
Speaker 4: don't want to be that. I want to go home
Speaker 4: and hang on my fucking cat and I want to yeah,
Speaker 4: like watch basketball and go to a concert once every
Speaker 4: two weeks. That's what I wanted. But we have to
Speaker 4: do this because otherwise you don't have the castball, you
Speaker 4: don't have the cat, you don't have a concert.
Speaker 3: It sucks.
Speaker 4: Why is it just us ball?
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny because it's like, you know, my grandpa
Speaker 1: was called him from McCarthy in the House of Non
Speaker 1: American Activities and refuse to name names. He never struck
Speaker 1: me as like such a brave guy. I mean I
Speaker 1: knew him like twenty years later when he was like
Speaker 1: grand standing in front of people and like this was
Speaker 1: like the thing he had done, which was like had
Speaker 1: faded from memory, but it happened. This is the only choice.
Speaker 1: There's no other choices. I wish there.
Speaker 4: Were, so I when I was I grew up in
Speaker 4: a house of the guy who was in Antifa. Sure
Speaker 4: there was a guy. It was a despots who went
Speaker 4: out there and the first thing he did was like,
Speaker 4: get to ban the study of gender. We have to
Speaker 4: put trans people out of their misery. We have to
Speaker 4: kill all the gay people. And then he started going
Speaker 4: after people based on their religious persuasion, what they looked like.
Speaker 4: So I were rounding people off the street, people with
Speaker 4: masks on and fatigues in the middle of the street
Speaker 4: used to take him out. And my grandfather was called
Speaker 4: to service in Antifa, which is called the United States
Speaker 4: Government right to the to the Western Front, and he
Speaker 4: ran a pow camp of Nazis and he didn't talk
Speaker 4: about it. I grew up in a house with my
Speaker 4: grandparents and my parents and we did all the money,
Speaker 4: and he didn't really talk about it. Then he went
Speaker 4: back home and he worked at a shoe factory and
Speaker 4: then he retired, and my grandmother was a teacher's aid,
Speaker 4: and neither of them talked about it because it's fucking horrible.
Speaker 4: And I remember I had to ask him for a
Speaker 4: school project about that stevent He's like, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to talk about it. And many, many many years later,
Speaker 4: a couple of years ago, Thanksgiving twenty eighteen, twenty nineteen something,
Speaker 4: somebody found a bunch of parapherne earlia. They found like
Speaker 4: maps and all these things, and they found out who's
Speaker 4: pretty decorated war veteran, and we just didn't know until
Speaker 4: well after he did it, because when you go into
Speaker 4: these moments, you are entering such a difficult time that
Speaker 4: no matter when you're on the other side of it,
Speaker 4: all that matters is that you survived. I only knew
Speaker 4: him as like an incredibly kind hearted guy who like
Speaker 4: used to bring me bowling and stuff. And we were
Speaker 4: about to enter this time that we don't talk about.
Speaker 1: We're in it.
Speaker 4: We're in All I can say is that, and I could, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's all we can do.
Speaker 1: It's real dark, and you know, and we don't know
Speaker 1: how it's gonna go. We don't know that it's gonna
Speaker 1: I mean, this country, this is who we are, and
Speaker 1: we've gotten through things like this before and we'll get
Speaker 1: through it again. But it's it's real dark.
Speaker 4: And I don't know how to bring people out of
Speaker 4: it other than just just like make fun of them.
Speaker 1: And we see this with like, you know, the way
Speaker 1: in which Governor Newsom's Twitter has done really well because
Speaker 1: he's able to show the absurdity of this situation. I
Speaker 1: think that is what is missing from a lot of
Speaker 1: this is and that's what the Onion does so well
Speaker 1: is and that's what Southburk does was show the absurdity
Speaker 1: of the situation, because when you're in it, you don't
Speaker 1: see it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope you guys get to go see this movie. Well,
Speaker 4: it'll be a wider release at some point. But like,
Speaker 4: we've normalized so much of this that even you know
Speaker 4: the premise of Jeffrey Epstein, this guy was the world's
Speaker 4: foremost human trafficker and he was potentially the best friend
Speaker 4: of the President of the United States who's doing an authorit
Speaker 4: tarrent take over the United States. And the way we
Speaker 4: talk about it as it's as if it's just like,
Speaker 4: you know, another media story, which is a clearly bananas.
Speaker 4: What this does, I will say this is the documentary
Speaker 4: is like, second by second the funniest thing I've seen,
Speaker 4: like in since like Airplane and I really really mean that.
Speaker 4: In the joke, eggs and bits like work independently, but
Speaker 4: at the end you leave it feeling like I'm easy
Speaker 4: because of the end of this day, I'm not going
Speaker 4: to give away like the way we treat this, We
Speaker 4: treated this like every other weird little scandal that happened,
Speaker 4: and what it is is actually an incredible indictment of
Speaker 4: wealth and power and how all the world's worst people
Speaker 4: coalesce around each other to cover up their stuff. That's
Speaker 4: what this documentary is about. But we are look, it's
Speaker 4: it's also it's funny by the way, you should watch it.
Speaker 4: But like, look, we have the tools that we have.
Speaker 4: I hope everybody understands their role in this moment. Everybody's
Speaker 4: got tools. Everybody can. Everybody can talk to your neighbor
Speaker 4: and be like, look, don't you see what's happening here?
Speaker 4: And everybody does that.
Speaker 1: Ben Collins, thank you, Thank you.
Speaker 4: Molly a moment.
Speaker 1: Jesse Cannon I junk fast.
Speaker 2: So a handful of states are going to end their
Speaker 2: nutrition education programs after Trump's cuts.
Speaker 3: This is like the stuff of low lifes do.
Speaker 2: It's the only thing that comes to mind is that
Speaker 2: when you're going to say your poor, your child, we're
Speaker 2: no longer going to support you having nutrition. It's really
Speaker 2: the lowest of the will.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know what, this is what they're doing.
Speaker 1: They don't want to do this. You know, they're cutting snap,
Speaker 1: They're cutting all of these medicaid. You know, this is
Speaker 1: what the BBB did, was cut all these programs. That's
Speaker 1: what these Republicans signed off on. And that's what we're
Speaker 1: going to see is just cuts and cuts and cuts.
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