WEBVTT - "WHAT DID YOU THINK EPSTEIN WAS STEALING THOSE WOMEN FOR?" - 7.31.25 0:00:04.795 --> 0:00:25.275 Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. What 0:00:26.635 --> 0:00:36.155 did you think Epstein was stealing those women for? This 0:00:36.395 --> 0:00:46.995 is how Trump's press briefing ended. What did you think 0:00:47.195 --> 0:00:52.875 Epstein was stealing those women for? Trump then walks out 0:00:52.915 --> 0:00:57.515 the open door and the feed cuts off. Sometimes there 0:00:57.595 --> 0:01:04.675 is nothing like a great unanswered rhetorical question. One question 0:01:04.995 --> 0:01:08.875 like that every day, just one, and Trump is as 0:01:08.915 --> 0:01:16.075 the baseball announcers say, meet, what did you think Epstein 0:01:16.315 --> 0:01:23.835 was stealing those women? Four? Trump now confesses he broke 0:01:23.835 --> 0:01:26.915 with Epstein not over the child rape, but because Epstein 0:01:27.155 --> 0:01:32.475 hired rape victims away from him, was stealing Virginia Giuffrey 0:01:32.675 --> 0:01:36.155 away from him. Trump paints a picture of mary a 0:01:36.235 --> 0:01:39.355 Lago where the tragic Miss Giuffrey, who just killed herself 0:01:39.475 --> 0:01:42.435 worked for. Trump paints it not as Epstein Island, but 0:01:42.515 --> 0:01:46.275 as the recruiting station and waiting room four Epstein Island. 0:01:46.435 --> 0:01:49.675 Trump calls going to the island to quote privilege. He 0:01:49.795 --> 0:01:53.595 keeps reigniting trump Stein and finding new things to admit 0:01:53.715 --> 0:01:57.555 to involuntarily. And after ten years of watching the fascists 0:01:57.755 --> 0:02:00.475 beat democracy to within an inch of its life using 0:02:00.595 --> 0:02:04.955 democracy's own loopholes, Senate Democrats finally found a loop all 0:02:04.955 --> 0:02:08.355 of their own, which may force the Justice Department to 0:02:08.515 --> 0:02:12.195 release the trump Stein files, including whatever deal with the 0:02:12.235 --> 0:02:16.395 devil Trump's man Todd made with the pedophile pimp Cleane 0:02:16.435 --> 0:02:19.715 Maxwell last week, or at minimum, take Trump and his 0:02:19.835 --> 0:02:23.835 inflatable rubber attorney general and tie them up in court 0:02:23.915 --> 0:02:31.515 forever and thus keep the Trumpstein scandal alive forever. What 0:02:32.115 --> 0:02:40.555 did you think Epstein was stealing those women for? Also, 0:02:40.595 --> 0:02:43.035 the Republicans have begun their coup to try to fix 0:02:43.075 --> 0:02:44.955 the twenty twenty six mid terms. I'll get to that, 0:02:45.395 --> 0:02:48.675 but first I have now lost track of how many 0:02:48.715 --> 0:02:53.435 times Trump has confessed to, at minimum covering up the 0:02:53.475 --> 0:02:58.395 Epstein scandal, the Trumpstein scandal, but if somehow you missed it, 0:02:58.435 --> 0:03:01.995 he has now confessed that he disavowed Jeffrey Epstein, not 0:03:02.115 --> 0:03:06.275 because he was a child rapist, human traffick procure pimp. 0:03:06.915 --> 0:03:11.315 That was apparently all fine with Trump. I know you're stunned, 0:03:12.675 --> 0:03:14.795 not because of that, but because he had had the 0:03:14.915 --> 0:03:19.675 nerve to steal some of Trump's employees at Mara e 0:03:19.795 --> 0:03:22.715 Fing Logo. 0:03:22.875 --> 0:03:27.195 Epstein has a certain reputation, obviously, but just curious were 0:03:27.195 --> 0:03:29.635 some of the workers that were taken from you were 0:03:29.635 --> 0:03:32.595 some of them young women, Some of them were some 0:03:32.675 --> 0:03:33.555 of them young women. 0:03:34.275 --> 0:03:38.555 Well, I don't want to say, but everyone knows the 0:03:38.595 --> 0:03:43.115 people that would take it, and it was the concept 0:03:43.115 --> 0:03:44.275 of taking people that. 0:03:44.315 --> 0:03:45.235 Work for me as man. 0:03:45.835 --> 0:03:48.755 But that story has been pretty well out there and 0:03:48.875 --> 0:03:50.235 the answers, yes, they. 0:03:50.195 --> 0:03:52.475 Were, Yes, they were yet of it. 0:03:52.395 --> 0:03:55.115 In the spot, in the spot, yeah, people that work 0:03:55.155 --> 0:03:56.995 in the spy a great spot, one of the best 0:03:57.035 --> 0:03:58.675 spas in the world at Marlaca. 0:03:59.075 --> 0:04:02.355 And then, as they say, in certain circles with which 0:04:02.395 --> 0:04:07.475 people like Epstein and Trump are familiar, the money shot. 0:04:07.755 --> 0:04:10.715 Even though the reporter mispronounces the poor woman's. 0:04:10.435 --> 0:04:15.835 Name one of those stolen you know, persons that include 0:04:15.835 --> 0:04:17.675 from Virginia Jeffrey. 0:04:19.635 --> 0:04:20.195 I don't know. 0:04:21.355 --> 0:04:22.635 I think she worked at the spam. 0:04:24.115 --> 0:04:24.555 I think so. 0:04:24.995 --> 0:04:26.635 I think that was one of the people with him. 0:04:27.195 --> 0:04:28.315 He stole her. 0:04:29.395 --> 0:04:31.595 And by the way, she had no complaints about us, 0:04:31.675 --> 0:04:33.595 as you know, none whatsoever. 0:04:34.355 --> 0:04:38.555 The late Virginia Giffrey always insisted she was recruited into 0:04:38.595 --> 0:04:46.915 the Epstein pedophilia trafficking cartel from Trump's Mary Lago. Trump 0:04:46.915 --> 0:04:52.355 has now confirmed that miss Giffrey one of the alleged 0:04:52.395 --> 0:04:56.715 victims of Prince Andrew also always insisted she would fight 0:04:56.835 --> 0:05:02.315 back to the end, and yet her stunning suicide three 0:05:02.315 --> 0:05:05.035 months ago has not gotten nearly the attention or the 0:05:05.155 --> 0:05:13.075 doubt that Epstein's suicide still does. Perhaps that needs to change. 0:05:13.275 --> 0:05:17.835 Perhaps some Democratic leader will demand a full investigation of that, 0:05:20.355 --> 0:05:24.235 or at least more commentators will, or at least more 0:05:24.235 --> 0:05:28.555 commentators will ask why there's such a disparity in interest 0:05:29.075 --> 0:05:32.395 when she said she would fight to the end and 0:05:32.555 --> 0:05:37.235 never give up. And this does not in the least 0:05:37.395 --> 0:05:42.635 dishonor her, It would only underscore that. Still, with rape 0:05:42.715 --> 0:05:47.315 and pedophilia and death all on Donald Trump's table, even 0:05:47.355 --> 0:05:51.235 if conceivably not among the accusations against him, he has 0:05:51.315 --> 0:05:56.315 never expressed the slightest remorse about Virginia Giuffrey or any 0:05:56.355 --> 0:06:02.635 other victim, nor promise to any of them justice. He's 0:06:02.875 --> 0:06:07.955 just mad. He's still mad that Epstein hired away his employees, 0:06:08.995 --> 0:06:18.915 stole them, stole her, stole Virginia Geffrey, stole her. He 0:06:18.995 --> 0:06:20.515 even told them that in Scotland. 0:06:20.795 --> 0:06:24.115 For years, I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein. I wouldn't 0:06:24.155 --> 0:06:27.235 talk because he did something that was inappropriate. He hired 0:06:27.275 --> 0:06:30.795 help and I said, don't ever do that again. He 0:06:30.835 --> 0:06:33.875 stole people that work for me. I said, don't ever 0:06:33.955 --> 0:06:36.195 do that again. He did it again. I never had 0:06:36.195 --> 0:06:37.955 the privilege of going to his island. 0:06:39.075 --> 0:06:43.955 Going to epstein island was a quote privilege. What did 0:06:43.995 --> 0:06:51.995 you think Epstein was stealing those women for you, scumbag? 0:06:55.315 --> 0:07:01.115 Another reminder that people other people. That's you, me, Virginia, Geoffrey, 0:07:01.875 --> 0:07:06.475 Trump's own daughter, his own support. They are not people 0:07:06.715 --> 0:07:10.035 not to him, they are commodities. We are all commodities 0:07:10.035 --> 0:07:14.555 to Trump, except those who become obstructions. Jeffrey Epstein was 0:07:14.555 --> 0:07:17.755 not a monster to Trump. He was an obstruction because 0:07:17.835 --> 0:07:20.395 Virginia Jeffrey, who was also not a person to Trump, 0:07:20.755 --> 0:07:26.555 was to Trump a commodity. And oh, by the way, 0:07:26.595 --> 0:07:31.355 this whole callous. This wasn't pedophilia or sex trafficking was 0:07:31.395 --> 0:07:36.035 an HR issue bullshit from Trump. The timeline also doesn't work. 0:07:37.395 --> 0:07:41.355 The impeccable Ryan Goodman of NYU Law recognized at first 0:07:42.395 --> 0:07:46.395 this started in the nineties, when Epstein first hired people 0:07:46.435 --> 0:07:51.315 away from marri Lago and raised Trump's ire than in 0:07:51.355 --> 0:07:57.515 two thousand, Epstein and Maxwell quote took Virginia Giuffrey from 0:07:57.715 --> 0:08:01.875 marri A Lago. In two thousand and two, Trump said 0:08:01.955 --> 0:08:05.955 the most infamous thing he ever said, as Goodman notes 0:08:06.195 --> 0:08:11.035 about Epstein being a terrific friend and liking younger ones. 0:08:12.555 --> 0:08:19.915 In two thousand and four, Trump and Epstein broke Oops 0:08:22.275 --> 0:08:23.115 hard to believe. 0:08:23.235 --> 0:08:23.475 Huh. 0:08:23.515 --> 0:08:27.315 Trump's lie contains another lie, contains another lie, contains another 0:08:27.395 --> 0:08:30.155 lie within that. But there it is. He was so 0:08:30.315 --> 0:08:36.355 outraged about Epstein hiring them away again, except he's now 0:08:36.435 --> 0:08:40.995 lying about the timeline. Poor Virginia Giffrey was the again. 0:08:43.275 --> 0:08:53.155 Four years later, he broke with Epstein. Anything to keep 0:08:53.195 --> 0:08:57.955 this story in the news. Tragic, heartbreaking or uncomfortable as 0:08:58.035 --> 0:09:03.035 that will be, will hasten the end of Trump and 0:09:03.195 --> 0:09:07.835 MAGA and say our democracy, we have to do it. 0:09:09.235 --> 0:09:36.915 We have no choice. 0:09:39.195 --> 0:09:41.755 I think it is possible. Even Democrats have realized this, 0:09:42.995 --> 0:09:47.595 I mean even Chuck Schumer. A month into this scandal, 0:09:48.875 --> 0:09:54.795 the first Trump scandal to last a month, and somebody 0:09:54.835 --> 0:09:57.755 finally issued a demand under Title five US Code two 0:09:57.875 --> 0:10:01.835 nine five four information to Committees of Congress on Request, 0:10:01.995 --> 0:10:04.475 which is a law that has been on the book 0:10:04.515 --> 0:10:09.195 since nineteen twenty eight, which reads briefly, and starkly quote, 0:10:09.555 --> 0:10:13.195 an executive agency on request of the Committee on Government 0:10:13.235 --> 0:10:16.915 Operations of the House of Representatives, or of any seven 0:10:16.955 --> 0:10:20.715 members thereof, or on request of the Committee on Governmental 0:10:20.755 --> 0:10:24.955 Affairs of the Senate, or any five members thereof, shall 0:10:25.155 --> 0:10:29.155 submit any information requested of it relating to any matter 0:10:29.515 --> 0:10:36.555 within the jurisdiction of the committee. This is not particularly vague. 0:10:36.635 --> 0:10:42.515 If just five members of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee 0:10:42.555 --> 0:10:47.555 demands information from any executive agency, like say, the Department 0:10:47.595 --> 0:10:52.435 of Justice, that department has to turn the information over 0:10:52.515 --> 0:10:57.915 by law. Know if this or when that? Just give 0:10:57.955 --> 0:11:04.275 it seven Democrats and that's forty percent more Senators than 0:11:04.355 --> 0:11:07.475 needed if you're scoring at home, or even if you're alone. 0:11:07.515 --> 0:11:10.995 Seven members of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, which is 0:11:11.035 --> 0:11:14.555 now the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, are now 0:11:14.595 --> 0:11:19.235 demanding the DOJ turnover all the trump Stein files, indeed 0:11:19.275 --> 0:11:24.675 all the Epstein files. There are two obstacles. Obviously, for 0:11:24.835 --> 0:11:28.355 every legal nuance the Democrats find, the Republicans have been 0:11:28.355 --> 0:11:31.995 storing up loopholes out of them since about nineteen eighty one. 0:11:32.835 --> 0:11:35.475 So after they deny this request, it will go to court, 0:11:35.515 --> 0:11:38.715 presumably eventually to the Supreme Court, where sam Alito will 0:11:38.715 --> 0:11:41.955 invent something about Trump's right to declare anything a national 0:11:41.995 --> 0:11:45.355 security risk and deny anybody, even in the Senate or 0:11:45.395 --> 0:11:47.915 the House, the right to see anything, even if it 0:11:47.955 --> 0:11:51.795 would exonerate him. As we all know, the stuff Trump 0:11:51.915 --> 0:11:55.635 is desperately covering up would exonerate him. That's why he 0:11:55.715 --> 0:12:01.795 won't release it. The second problem, of course, is that 0:12:01.835 --> 0:12:06.075 we brought out the big guns to sell this, Chuck 0:12:06.155 --> 0:12:15.555 Schumer and Dick Blumenthal and Gary Peters. I like Dick Blumenthal, 0:12:15.555 --> 0:12:19.355 I've known him a long time. But wow, it's like 0:12:19.475 --> 0:12:24.635 the rack pack is live again in Vegas now. I mean, 0:12:24.675 --> 0:12:30.275 I understand these are the senators and they are doing 0:12:30.315 --> 0:12:34.595 something finally to try to move the needle. And what 0:12:34.875 --> 0:12:38.515 they're not gonna trot out Fetterman to announce this. To 0:12:38.595 --> 0:12:43.635 Fetterman's credit, he signed the filing. But can we glow 0:12:43.755 --> 0:12:49.475 up the stage craft maybe just a little. Schumer and 0:12:49.515 --> 0:12:52.355 Blumenthal and Peters and the others referred to this as 0:12:52.395 --> 0:12:57.195 a letter to the attorney general. How about a demand? 0:12:59.315 --> 0:13:04.515 How about legal notice? How about an ultimatum? How about 0:13:04.675 --> 0:13:07.635 eating the law out loud to the reporters and saying, 0:13:08.115 --> 0:13:10.915 under this federal law. There is no negotiation and no 0:13:11.115 --> 0:13:13.995 room for Trump to escape. And whatever Trump is hiding, 0:13:14.195 --> 0:13:20.635 that ends now. PAMBONDI will shall turn over this material immediately, 0:13:20.755 --> 0:13:23.635 or we will hold her in contempt of the Senate 0:13:23.795 --> 0:13:27.355 and we will find a venue to prosecute her under 0:13:27.395 --> 0:13:30.235 Title five US Code two nine five four. And she 0:13:30.395 --> 0:13:32.915 damn well better contemplate what has happened to all the 0:13:32.955 --> 0:13:38.395 other attorneys general who broke federal law. Maybe go home 0:13:38.395 --> 0:13:41.395 and watch all the president's men tonight. Find out which 0:13:41.635 --> 0:13:47.755 prison John Mitchell went to. No, we sent a letter. 0:13:48.795 --> 0:13:52.795 You can see the thought bubble. Did you remember to 0:13:52.835 --> 0:13:58.555 put on enough postage? Okay, I'll stop. They did something. 0:13:59.755 --> 0:14:04.395 Let's see if they can get traction with this approach. 0:14:05.955 --> 0:14:08.595 We are all members of the stern Letter Writers Hall 0:14:08.635 --> 0:14:12.355 of Fame. In fact, in fact, Blumenthal was elected unanimously. 0:14:15.075 --> 0:14:18.755 What's maddening the most about this is the Republicans continue 0:14:18.755 --> 0:14:22.195 to flail at every turn on Trumpstein. The missing minute 0:14:22.195 --> 0:14:26.195 from the Trumpstein tape. It's not missing, the DOJ says, no. 0:14:26.395 --> 0:14:34.155 The machine just numbers things wrong, changes the time, except 0:14:34.515 --> 0:14:38.635 there's one hundred newly discovered other things wrong with that tape. 0:14:38.675 --> 0:14:42.795 According to a forensic exam by CBS, and a mysterious 0:14:43.035 --> 0:14:48.155 orange blob has been seen near Epstein's cell on the 0:14:48.235 --> 0:14:51.475 tape right before he died. The jokes are too easy, 0:14:52.555 --> 0:14:58.675 write them yourselves. More practically, Maxwell has now demanded immunity 0:14:58.755 --> 0:15:01.435 or clemency in exchange for her testimony to Congress. And 0:15:01.475 --> 0:15:04.195 while on a human level, I am glad House Republicans 0:15:04.195 --> 0:15:07.235 have refused, used, on a political level, I am stunned. 0:15:07.555 --> 0:15:09.875 How else will they get her to lie for Trump 0:15:09.915 --> 0:15:13.715 in public? Even now? If Trump says f this and 0:15:13.835 --> 0:15:16.075 pardons her and she lies for him as part of 0:15:16.075 --> 0:15:19.595 the pardon, the first reaction will become the House didn't 0:15:19.635 --> 0:15:23.155 trust her enough to give her limited immunity. Trump just 0:15:23.235 --> 0:15:25.795 pardoned her. Who can believe a thing she says? 0:15:25.835 --> 0:15:26.075 Now? 0:15:27.115 --> 0:15:35.675 Bad bad strategy fascists? Thanks. Meanwhile, Trump somehow managed to 0:15:35.715 --> 0:15:38.275 not repeat his confession yesterday that he has a list 0:15:38.315 --> 0:15:40.875 and could show it to you, or that he only 0:15:40.875 --> 0:15:43.795 got mad at Epstein overproaching his employees, not you know, 0:15:43.915 --> 0:15:46.475 raping them. He didn't mention that again. He just walked 0:15:46.475 --> 0:15:48.995 out of the room while the rhetorical question was going. 0:15:49.595 --> 0:15:53.435 He did manage to conflate his favorite conspiracy theory with 0:15:53.595 --> 0:15:56.755 his clown Cash Betel's newest conspiracy theory, the one about 0:15:56.795 --> 0:16:01.155 burn bags in his secret FBI room somewhere containing quote 0:16:01.235 --> 0:16:07.115 Russia Gate unquote material. He was asked about the burn 0:16:07.235 --> 0:16:10.395 bags and instead Trump answered about how the Democrats wrote 0:16:10.395 --> 0:16:13.875 the Epstein files or something. Nobody knows what he's saying anymore, 0:16:13.875 --> 0:16:20.195 at least of all him. I mentioned the Republicans have 0:16:20.275 --> 0:16:32.075 begun coup twenty twenty six, filing to Jerrymander Texas only 0:16:32.155 --> 0:16:37.995 the twenty first thousandth time since Tom DeLay's days there. 0:16:38.115 --> 0:16:40.875 It would add five Republican seats. Gavin Newsom replying in 0:16:40.915 --> 0:16:44.315 California to add five or more California seats. Jd Vance 0:16:44.355 --> 0:16:48.075 reacting with Umbradge because he can't add single digits. The 0:16:48.195 --> 0:16:54.555 relevant part the good news is from all places Politico, 0:16:55.515 --> 0:17:00.275 the most wired in Republicans privately concede political rights that 0:17:00.315 --> 0:17:03.715 they're not going to win the midterms through redistricting efforts alone. 0:17:04.395 --> 0:17:07.155 If we are relying on redistricting to hold the majorities, 0:17:07.155 --> 0:17:10.035 we have bigger issues. Set a Republican operative close to 0:17:10.075 --> 0:17:13.835 the White House who works on Senate and House races Epstein. 0:17:14.635 --> 0:17:17.635 That would be your bigger issue. What did you think 0:17:17.675 --> 0:17:23.995 he was stealing them for? That should be the entire 0:17:24.075 --> 0:17:28.995 banner at the Democratic convention in twenty twenty eight. If 0:17:29.035 --> 0:17:31.555 we are relying on redistricting to hold the majorities, we 0:17:31.555 --> 0:17:33.675 have bigger issues. Set a Republican operative close to the 0:17:33.675 --> 0:17:36.515 White House who works on Senate and House races. Still, 0:17:36.555 --> 0:17:39.675 this operative defended the push frankly Democrats to it, So 0:17:39.755 --> 0:17:42.595 we are giving them a dose of their own medicine. That, 0:17:42.635 --> 0:17:45.755 by the way, is the philosophy, the false philosophy under 0:17:45.755 --> 0:17:48.675 which Republicans have worked for fifty years. Well, the Democrats 0:17:48.715 --> 0:17:52.435 did it in eighteen twelve. The bad news on this 0:17:52.595 --> 0:17:56.195 is from all places. Politico. House Minority Leader Hakim Jeffries 0:17:56.235 --> 0:18:00.115 will arrive in Austin and huddle with Texas Democratic legislators tonight. 0:18:00.195 --> 0:18:02.995 That's last night. This is a moment that requires a 0:18:03.035 --> 0:18:05.995 force full on the ground spots, and that is why 0:18:06.075 --> 0:18:08.915 I am traveling to Texas to convene with members of 0:18:08.955 --> 0:18:11.435 the Texas House and Senate delegations, as well as our 0:18:11.475 --> 0:18:15.395 Democratic members representing Texas in Congress. The translation of a 0:18:15.515 --> 0:18:17.755 Keem's statement there is we don't have a plan in 0:18:17.795 --> 0:18:27.835 Texas Happily, the Republicans continued to screw things up back 0:18:27.875 --> 0:18:30.875 at the ranch. When Trump is not out there digging 0:18:30.915 --> 0:18:34.755 his own bottomless pit and now being able to do 0:18:34.835 --> 0:18:39.195 so without saying a word, his faithful morons are helping 0:18:39.275 --> 0:18:43.835 him do it. Congressman Eric Burlson, m Missouri, the m 0:18:43.955 --> 0:18:47.595 is for moron was on CNN and even Wolf Blitzer 0:18:47.635 --> 0:18:52.195 had a question. It's the same open ended, meaningless question 0:18:52.275 --> 0:18:54.355 he's been asking since nineteen eighty one, but it was 0:18:54.395 --> 0:18:58.115 a question. Quote Trump said that Epstein stole young women 0:18:58.155 --> 0:19:00.955 who worked as employees at his marri Lago spa, including 0:19:01.035 --> 0:19:04.315 Virginia Jeffrey, who died by suicide earlier this year. What's 0:19:04.355 --> 0:19:08.515 your real action to Trump's comments, to which Burlson answered, 0:19:09.515 --> 0:19:12.315 Trump did not visit Epstein Island. I take him at 0:19:12.355 --> 0:19:17.795 his word for that. Well, Congressman, he didn't have to 0:19:17.795 --> 0:19:23.395 go to Epstein Island, dummy. Epstein delivered. Plus, as I 0:19:23.395 --> 0:19:27.315 said before, Mary Lago was the waiting room for Epstein Island. 0:19:37.995 --> 0:19:40.235 It has now happened twice in the last forty eight 0:19:40.275 --> 0:19:42.915 hours that I have been asked essentially the same question 0:19:42.995 --> 0:19:47.075 by two entirely different people. The question is why have 0:19:47.435 --> 0:19:53.635 almost no Trump's staffers, not supporters, not advocates in Congress 0:19:53.795 --> 0:19:56.355 or in the Senate or around the country, or public 0:19:56.395 --> 0:19:58.875 mouthpieces or the idiots you see on TV or other 0:19:58.915 --> 0:20:02.515 people at Fox News. But why have staffers in the 0:20:02.555 --> 0:20:08.075 Trump administration in key position not resigned in protest over 0:20:08.755 --> 0:20:16.675 any of the last one hundred moral turpitudes perpetrated by Trump. Specifically, 0:20:16.875 --> 0:20:19.395 this came up in the context of the comments about 0:20:19.795 --> 0:20:26.435 hiring away that poor woman, Virginia Geoffrey and treating it 0:20:26.555 --> 0:20:30.955 so offhandedly, like we were talking about Jeffrey Epstein taking 0:20:30.995 --> 0:20:38.795 away his favorite chambermaid. Why has there not been umbrage? 0:20:38.995 --> 0:20:42.635 Why have there not been people fleeing? Why has there 0:20:42.795 --> 0:20:45.955 never been a realization that Donald Trump is, no matter 0:20:45.995 --> 0:20:48.355 how long it's taken for the goddamn thing to sink 0:20:48.955 --> 0:20:53.035 the captain of the Moral Titanic, that he is a 0:20:53.075 --> 0:20:56.275 man who, if it is legal to mention his name, 0:20:56.395 --> 0:20:59.915 fifty years from now, will be remembered very much the 0:20:59.915 --> 0:21:05.515 way the Germans remember Hitler. And I am answered to 0:21:05.675 --> 0:21:09.555 both people who asked this question in essentially the same way. 0:21:10.595 --> 0:21:14.195 I'm reasonably good at explaining what I have seen and 0:21:14.235 --> 0:21:16.835 how long I have seen it. And the number one 0:21:16.915 --> 0:21:21.315 answer is these are people who have listened to the 0:21:21.395 --> 0:21:25.315 Rush Limbaughs of this world, and the Carl Roves of 0:21:25.355 --> 0:21:28.035 this world, and the George W. Bush people of this 0:21:28.155 --> 0:21:31.915 world for the entirety of their lives. Mike Johnson Speaker 0:21:31.955 --> 0:21:33.835 of the House of Representatives, not that he should be 0:21:33.915 --> 0:21:37.235 resigning from the administration he is not in but Mike 0:21:37.315 --> 0:21:40.235 Johnson as a representative. I've pointed out before the timeline 0:21:40.235 --> 0:21:42.915 of Mike Johnson's life is he was just starting law 0:21:42.955 --> 0:21:45.795 school when Fox News went on the air. There are 0:21:45.915 --> 0:21:51.555 people in the Trump dictatorship whose parents were raised on 0:21:51.675 --> 0:21:54.435 Rush Limbaugh. That has how long this has been going on. 0:21:54.915 --> 0:21:59.115 I have been warning of this change in the fundamental 0:21:59.115 --> 0:22:02.835 perception of what America is, of the two party system. 0:22:03.075 --> 0:22:06.315 I have been warning about the Reportublicans intending to destroy 0:22:06.395 --> 0:22:09.035 this and speaking of it as if it is something 0:22:09.235 --> 0:22:13.875 that Republicans need to correct since nineteen ninety eight. That's 0:22:13.995 --> 0:22:16.275 just me, and I was far from the first to 0:22:16.315 --> 0:22:19.555 do so. This has been going on since the eighties. 0:22:19.755 --> 0:22:23.755 Its precursors occurred during the McCarthy era in the fifties, 0:22:23.795 --> 0:22:27.115 and the precursors to McCarthy occurred in the Palmer Raids 0:22:27.195 --> 0:22:29.835 right after the First World War, and the precursors to 0:22:29.915 --> 0:22:32.235 the Palmer Raids were in the anarchy raids of the 0:22:32.275 --> 0:22:36.195 eighteen nineties. There has always been part of this country 0:22:36.275 --> 0:22:42.435 ready to embrace autocracy one party rule, and it's almost 0:22:42.555 --> 0:22:46.755 always been conservatives trying to snamp out liberals. You saw 0:22:46.795 --> 0:22:50.235 the Ann Coulters before they became jokes, the Laura Ingram's 0:22:50.275 --> 0:22:53.475 before they became unrecognizable, and I mean that literally, after 0:22:53.515 --> 0:22:56.435 all that work. You saw what they were pitching in 0:22:56.475 --> 0:23:01.395 the nineties, that being liberal was a disease, that liberals 0:23:01.435 --> 0:23:05.315 were traders, that the natural party of government was the 0:23:05.315 --> 0:23:10.275 Republican Party. According to Karl Rove, they have been trained 0:23:10.555 --> 0:23:15.235 for this. They have been trained for autocracy and party 0:23:15.315 --> 0:23:19.875 rule for decades upon decade. They have inherited it from 0:23:20.035 --> 0:23:24.995 their parents and in now some cases grandparents. They do 0:23:25.075 --> 0:23:30.395 not understand that this has been a two party country 0:23:30.635 --> 0:23:33.355 since its founding, and more than two parties at times. 0:23:33.515 --> 0:23:37.595 They do not understand that a minority is not permitted 0:23:37.715 --> 0:23:40.715 to rule without the consent of the majority and the 0:23:40.715 --> 0:23:44.475 cooperation of the majority, and they believe that it is 0:23:44.675 --> 0:23:49.755 necessary for the minority because the minority is better than 0:23:49.795 --> 0:23:53.795 the majority to stamp out any opportunity, the majority would 0:23:53.795 --> 0:23:56.515 have to rule. Therefore, why would they leave Trump. They 0:23:56.555 --> 0:24:00.035 believe he is right, no matter how it is achieved, 0:24:00.555 --> 0:24:03.675 no matter if he shot someone on Fifth Avenue every day. 0:24:05.155 --> 0:24:08.755 They don't care. They have been told that this is 0:24:08.795 --> 0:24:14.995 about eliminating the choice. This is about making it impossible 0:24:14.995 --> 0:24:19.595 for those schevee minorities to have any real say here. 0:24:19.915 --> 0:24:22.715 And you can pick whatever minority they don't like this week, 0:24:22.755 --> 0:24:27.155 and they're the targets. In twenty sixteen, Trump started with 0:24:27.275 --> 0:24:31.395 the Hispanics and pivoted very quickly to anybody who is 0:24:31.475 --> 0:24:34.835 Arabic in nature and to anyone who is Muslim in nature. 0:24:35.595 --> 0:24:37.875 It doesn't matter who they are. It could be the 0:24:37.915 --> 0:24:41.315 same people with different names. They are the guilty party, 0:24:41.435 --> 0:24:44.755 and he is going to use them as the rationale 0:24:45.515 --> 0:24:49.995 to take away the votes and the rule of anyone 0:24:50.075 --> 0:24:53.595 who supports them, let alone of the members of those groups. 0:24:55.795 --> 0:24:58.995 They are largely homeschooled, so the opportunity to go and 0:24:59.035 --> 0:25:02.355 meet members of other groups and associate with them, and 0:25:02.395 --> 0:25:05.515 you know the statistics if there is an other group 0:25:05.635 --> 0:25:09.595 in your awareness of the world and you'd know nobody 0:25:09.595 --> 0:25:12.915 from that group. The odds are ten to ninety that 0:25:12.995 --> 0:25:15.595 you will accept them or like them. If you meet 0:25:15.635 --> 0:25:19.395 somebody and interact with them, the odds become ninety ten 0:25:19.675 --> 0:25:21.835 that you will like them and interact with them and 0:25:21.835 --> 0:25:24.075 not brand them as some other group. You realize that 0:25:24.275 --> 0:25:26.955 just as big assholes as everybody else, and just as 0:25:26.955 --> 0:25:29.515 big nice guys as everybody else, and that all the 0:25:29.555 --> 0:25:35.155 groupings you were raised on are artificial and meaningless. But 0:25:35.235 --> 0:25:41.355 they're homeschooled. That's a way of indoctrinating people. It's not choice, 0:25:43.075 --> 0:25:47.035 it's not even given the variety of life that a 0:25:47.075 --> 0:25:50.595 private school gives you or a religious school gives you. 0:25:52.315 --> 0:25:54.155 I used to wonder about the kids who would leave 0:25:54.195 --> 0:25:58.315 every Wednesday afternoon for Catholic school. Then they came back 0:25:58.315 --> 0:26:00.515 and went to regular school four and a half days 0:26:00.555 --> 0:26:03.995 a week. They started to laugh at Catholic school. Well, 0:26:04.035 --> 0:26:06.715 the ones who had Catholic school full time to go 0:26:06.755 --> 0:26:08.835 a little longer for them to laugh at Catholic school, 0:26:09.075 --> 0:26:11.395 and they did anyway. But just getting out of the house, 0:26:11.875 --> 0:26:13.915 these are kids who've never been out of the house before. 0:26:14.715 --> 0:26:17.555 These are people who will say they forced them into 0:26:17.595 --> 0:26:20.795 the subways in New York. Ten years ago, Nut Gingrich 0:26:20.915 --> 0:26:23.835 was saying, the elites right around in the subways of 0:26:23.875 --> 0:26:29.675 New York. It's like pick one. There's also a considerable 0:26:29.675 --> 0:26:32.515 opioid problem in all of the areas that have supported 0:26:32.515 --> 0:26:35.875 Trump in twenty sixteen, twenty and twenty four. That was 0:26:35.915 --> 0:26:40.595 a statistic that was absolutely valid and proven. The country's 0:26:41.035 --> 0:26:45.435 fifty three top counties with opioid problems in twenty sixteen 0:26:45.635 --> 0:26:48.595 all went for Trump. Do you think that's not a 0:26:48.635 --> 0:26:50.915 factor in this? Do these people seem like they're a 0:26:50.955 --> 0:26:54.395 little strung out. Not to pick on anybody or accuse anybody, 0:26:54.395 --> 0:26:57.795 but have you ever looked at half of the members 0:26:57.835 --> 0:27:02.275 of the Republican cohort in Congress? Have you ever wondered, 0:27:02.875 --> 0:27:12.835 I wonder what she's on? Steroids, opioids, who knows what else. Homeschooled, 0:27:13.915 --> 0:27:16.555 been in the military, taught to believe that there's always 0:27:16.635 --> 0:27:20.835 an other outside waiting with a gun. These are the 0:27:20.875 --> 0:27:24.195 people working for Donald Trump. Where is the moral courage 0:27:24.235 --> 0:27:26.955 going to come from? Never mind that, where is the 0:27:26.995 --> 0:27:33.195 moral disagreement going to come from? So somebody said, then, well, 0:27:33.195 --> 0:27:36.475 what about the idea that you know he's eighty years old. 0:27:36.835 --> 0:27:41.555 He's in terrible health. He's declining rapidly. He's declining physically. 0:27:41.875 --> 0:27:44.715 He regained some mental power once or twice a week, 0:27:44.715 --> 0:27:46.555 but the rest of the time it's pretty much a 0:27:46.595 --> 0:27:49.875 straight slide down a mountain, and he's just wearing shoes, 0:27:50.355 --> 0:27:55.515 not skis. Well, what do you think they think of that? 0:27:56.275 --> 0:27:59.595 They think of that as opportunity. Somebody is going to 0:27:59.635 --> 0:28:02.675 inherit this movement. It may not be the same movement 0:28:02.715 --> 0:28:06.275 once Trump is gone. It probably will not go to 0:28:06.315 --> 0:28:09.395 any of Trump's children because they're morons. And the people 0:28:09.475 --> 0:28:13.035 in the MAGA movement understand they're morons. They've been out 0:28:13.035 --> 0:28:16.875 there in front of every single Trump venture. And is 0:28:16.915 --> 0:28:19.795 there any Eric Trump ground Swell? Is there a Donald 0:28:19.875 --> 0:28:23.515 Trump junior ground Swell? Is there a Lara Trump brown Swell? 0:28:23.555 --> 0:28:28.035 And I know she's just a in law, But none 0:28:28.075 --> 0:28:30.475 of the Trump children have anything that would be needed 0:28:30.515 --> 0:28:33.835 to rule this thing. So all the younger people inside 0:28:33.875 --> 0:28:37.435 the Trump administration, they don't see this as a disaster, 0:28:37.715 --> 0:28:39.435 or if they see it as something that's going to 0:28:39.515 --> 0:28:42.475 claim Trump's presidency, if they're finally going to catch him, 0:28:42.475 --> 0:28:44.595