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Speaker 1: did you think Epstein was stealing those women for? This

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Speaker 1: is how Trump's press briefing ended. What did you think

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Speaker 1: the open door and the feed cuts off. Sometimes there

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Speaker 1: is nothing like a great unanswered rhetorical question. One question

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Speaker 1: like that every day, just one, and Trump is as

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Speaker 1: the baseball announcers say, meet, what did you think Epstein

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Speaker 1: with Epstein not over the child rape, but because Epstein

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Speaker 1: hired rape victims away from him, was stealing Virginia Giuffrey

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Speaker 1: away from him. Trump paints a picture of mary a

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Speaker 1: Lago where the tragic Miss Giuffrey, who just killed herself

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Speaker 1: worked for. Trump paints it not as Epstein Island, but

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Speaker 1: as the recruiting station and waiting room four Epstein Island.

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Speaker 1: Trump calls going to the island to quote privilege. He

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Speaker 1: keeps reigniting trump Stein and finding new things to admit

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Speaker 1: to involuntarily. And after ten years of watching the fascists

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Speaker 1: beat democracy to within an inch of its life using

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Speaker 1: democracy's own loopholes, Senate Democrats finally found a loop all

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Speaker 1: of their own, which may force the Justice Department to

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Speaker 1: release the trump Stein files, including whatever deal with the

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Speaker 1: devil Trump's man Todd made with the pedophile pimp Cleane

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Speaker 1: Maxwell last week, or at minimum, take Trump and his

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Speaker 1: inflatable rubber attorney general and tie them up in court

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Speaker 1: forever and thus keep the Trumpstein scandal alive forever. What

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Speaker 1: did you think Epstein was stealing those women for? Also,

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Speaker 1: the Republicans have begun their coup to try to fix

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six mid terms. I'll get to that,

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Speaker 1: but first I have now lost track of how many

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Speaker 1: times Trump has confessed to, at minimum covering up the

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Speaker 1: Epstein scandal, the Trumpstein scandal, but if somehow you missed it,

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Speaker 1: he has now confessed that he disavowed Jeffrey Epstein, not

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Speaker 1: because he was a child rapist, human traffick procure pimp.

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Speaker 1: That was apparently all fine with Trump. I know you're stunned,

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Speaker 1: not because of that, but because he had had the

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Speaker 1: Fing Logo.

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Speaker 2: Epstein has a certain reputation, obviously, but just curious were

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Speaker 2: some of the workers that were taken from you were

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Speaker 2: some of them young women, Some of them were some

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to say, but everyone knows the

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Speaker 3: people that would take it, and it was the concept

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Speaker 4: Work for me as man.

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Speaker 3: But that story has been pretty well out there and

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Speaker 3: the answers, yes, they.

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Speaker 4: Were, Yes, they were yet of it.

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Speaker 3: In the spot, in the spot, yeah, people that work

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Speaker 1: And then, as they say, in certain circles with which

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Speaker 1: Even though the reporter mispronounces the poor woman's.

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Speaker 2: Name one of those stolen you know, persons that include

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Speaker 2: from Virginia Jeffrey.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I think she worked at the spam.

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 4: I think that was one of the people with him.

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Speaker 4: He stole her.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, she had no complaints about us,

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Speaker 1: The late Virginia Giffrey always insisted she was recruited into

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Speaker 1: the Epstein pedophilia trafficking cartel from Trump's Mary Lago. Trump

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Speaker 1: has now confirmed that miss Giffrey one of the alleged

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Speaker 1: victims of Prince Andrew also always insisted she would fight

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Speaker 1: doubt that Epstein's suicide still does. Perhaps that needs to change.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps some Democratic leader will demand a full investigation of that,

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Speaker 1: dishonor her, It would only underscore that. Still, with rape

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Speaker 1: just mad. He's still mad that Epstein hired away his employees,

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Speaker 3: For years, I wouldn't talk to Jeffrey Epstein. I wouldn't

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Speaker 3: do that again. He did it again. I never had

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Speaker 3: the privilege of going to his island.

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Speaker 1: Going to epstein island was a quote privilege. What did

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Speaker 1: you think Epstein was stealing those women for you, scumbag?

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Speaker 1: Another reminder that people other people. That's you, me, Virginia, Geoffrey,

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Speaker 1: Trump's own daughter, his own support. They are not people

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Speaker 1: not to him, they are commodities. We are all commodities

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Speaker 1: to Trump, except those who become obstructions. Jeffrey Epstein was

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Speaker 1: not a monster to Trump. He was an obstruction because

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Speaker 1: this whole callous. This wasn't pedophilia or sex trafficking was

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Speaker 1: The impeccable Ryan Goodman of NYU Law recognized at first

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Speaker 1: this started in the nineties, when Epstein first hired people

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Speaker 1: two thousand, Epstein and Maxwell quote took Virginia Giuffrey from

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Speaker 1: In two thousand and four, Trump and Epstein broke Oops

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Speaker 1: Trump's lie contains another lie, contains another lie, contains another

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Speaker 1: lie within that. But there it is. He was so

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Speaker 1: outraged about Epstein hiring them away again, except he's now

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Speaker 1: lying about the timeline. Poor Virginia Giffrey was the again.

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Speaker 1: Four years later, he broke with Epstein. Anything to keep

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Speaker 1: this story in the news. Tragic, heartbreaking or uncomfortable as

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Speaker 5: We have no choice.

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Speaker 1: I think it is possible. Even Democrats have realized this,

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Speaker 1: I mean even Chuck Schumer. A month into this scandal,

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Speaker 1: finally issued a demand under Title five US Code two

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Speaker 1: within the jurisdiction of the committee. This is not particularly vague.

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Speaker 1: now the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee, are now

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Speaker 1: demanding the DOJ turnover all the trump Stein files, indeed

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Speaker 1: all the Epstein files. There are two obstacles. Obviously, for

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Speaker 1: every legal nuance the Democrats find, the Republicans have been

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Speaker 1: storing up loopholes out of them since about nineteen eighty one.

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Speaker 1: So after they deny this request, it will go to court,

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Speaker 1: the rack pack is live again in Vegas now. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Fetterman's credit, he signed the filing. But can we glow

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Speaker 1: Blumenthal and Peters and the others referred to this as

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Speaker 1: a letter to the attorney general. How about a demand?

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Speaker 1: How about legal notice? How about an ultimatum? How about

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Speaker 1: under this federal law. There is no negotiation and no

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Speaker 1: that ends now. PAMBONDI will shall turn over this material immediately,

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Speaker 1: damn well better contemplate what has happened to all the

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Speaker 1: prison John Mitchell went to. No, we sent a letter.

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Speaker 1: write them yourselves. More practically, Maxwell has now demanded immunity

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Speaker 1: in public? Even now? If Trump says f this and

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Speaker 1: Bad bad strategy fascists? Thanks. Meanwhile, Trump somehow managed to

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Speaker 1: this time. Certainly, Dick Cheney should have been in prison

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Speaker 1: should have been sentenced in two thousand and nine and

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Speaker 1: twenty ten for the crimes they committed during the Bush administration.

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Speaker 1: What happened to them? We need to heal and we

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Speaker 1: can't have political prosecutions, to which the Republican said, oh good,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to prosecute that us. We can prosecute

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Speaker 1: them when it's our turn, and it'll be our turn,

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Speaker 1: and we'll never make the mistake they did and be

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Speaker 1: nice about it. And what did we do to Trump

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Speaker 1: after Trump won? I think we know the answer to

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Speaker 1: that all too frequently in a situation that required a

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Speaker 1: unprecedented and it wouldn't have been unprecedented if Obama had

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Speaker 1: prosecuted the Bushies, but an unprecedented response to an attempt

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Speaker 1: to overthrow the effing government of the United States, an

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Speaker 1: internal coup led by a psychopath who was president of

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Speaker 1: the United States and would not leave office peacefully, which

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Speaker 1: is what Donald Trump is and was in the response

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Speaker 1: to that. Instead of a vigorous prosecution with some kind

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Speaker 1: of confidence in an area of truth and reconciliation on

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Speaker 1: the one hand, and vigorous criminal prosecution on the other hand,

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Speaker 1: what did we give them? Instead? We gave them Rick Garland.

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Speaker 1: So the answer to boil it down to two words,

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Speaker 1: why aren't people resigning from the Trump administration in protest

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Speaker 1: over at Trump's bestiality? The easiest two word answer is

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Speaker 1: Merrick Garland. Also, Kamala Harris is not running for governor

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Speaker 1: of California?

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Speaker 5: Would you?

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Speaker 1: And I don't think this means she's in the presidential

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Speaker 1: mash pit either? I mean again, would you? One more

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Speaker 1: off topic note, Brian Bouler from Off Message, and if

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Speaker 1: I could hire five people to run strategy for the

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Speaker 1: Democratic Party, he'd be one of them. Has another brilliant

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Speaker 1: point about Columbia, or as it might better be known,

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Speaker 1: Capitulation University, is suggesting some Columbia students should right now

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Speaker 1: be demanding their money back. Suing. Maybe maybe class action suing.

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Speaker 1: I'll just read from his newsletter to which you should subscribe.

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Speaker 1: When you were applying to colleges a couple of years ago,

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Speaker 1: you received multiple acceptance letters, but chose Columbia because you

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Speaker 1: were impressed by the commitments to diversity and autonomy, the

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Speaker 1: way the university promoted and represented itself in its literature

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Speaker 1: and other public relations. Then over the summer, you learned

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Speaker 1: the Columbia has reached a settlement with the US government

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Speaker 1: prohibiting the university from preferencing applicants based on race, color,

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Speaker 1: or national origin and admissions throughout its programs, or using

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Speaker 1: proxy for racial admission, personal statements, diversity narratives, or any

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Speaker 1: applicant reference to racial identity in considering applicants. As you

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Speaker 1: work toward your degree, Columbia will have a minder called

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Speaker 1: a Resolution Monitor who will look over its shoulder and

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Speaker 1: police compliance with the settlement. The school will have to

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Speaker 1: provide the Resolution Monitor and the United States with admissions

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Speaker 1: data showing both rejected and admitted students, broken down by race, color,

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Speaker 1: grade point average, and performance on standardized tests in a

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Speaker 1: form permitting appropriate statistical analyzes by October one of each

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Speaker 1: year the agreement, As Brian Boiler writes, Columbia isn't becoming

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Speaker 1: wide enough for Donald Trump and Steven Miller's tastes back

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Speaker 1: into the barrel? Is this really the same autonomous and

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Speaker 1: diverse institution you were led to believe you'd attend so

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Speaker 1: long as you forked over tens of thousands of dollars

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Speaker 1: a year. If it's enforced in a way that infringes

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Speaker 1: on student and faculty speech, the settlement may ultimately give

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Speaker 1: rise to First Amendment, claims Brian Boiler writes. But simply

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Speaker 1: if by signing it Columbia falsified representations it made to

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Speaker 1: its students, it owed independence to every student who agreed

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Speaker 1: to matriculate there, and in a moral sense, if not

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Speaker 1: a legal one, it owed those students its best effort

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Speaker 1: to retain its reputation for excellence and integrity. Not every

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Speaker 1: Columbia student, he concludes, will feel swindled. But if I

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Speaker 1: were an undergrad there, I would. I'd want my money back.

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Speaker 1: I might even want damages for the opportunity cost. I

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Speaker 1: could have attended any number of prestigious universities that didn't

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Speaker 1: sign such an agreement. I'll never get my lost time back,

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Speaker 1: and my degree will now be tainted in the eyes

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Speaker 1: of many prospective employers. Unquote. But I could hire five

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Speaker 1: people to run strategy for the Democratic Party. Brian Boitler

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Speaker 1: would be one of them. Off message is his subscription

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Speaker 1: newsletter and worth twice what he charges Colombia and my

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Speaker 1: ex friend and colleague, Claire Shipman, they think they faced

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Speaker 1: consequences from Trump? How about from lawsuits by students they

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Speaker 1: have now bilked? How about when the Ivy League starts

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Speaker 1: unofficially claiming it now only has seven members. Also of

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Speaker 1: interest here, the podcast is three years old now tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: just six hundred and thirty two episodes and thirty six million,

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Speaker 1: four hundred thousand downloads and something like thirty seven million

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Speaker 1: YouTube views since we started that in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the second year. Towards the beginning of the second year,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. I'm expecting to be back Monday for the

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Speaker 1: start of season four and to soon be announcing an

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Speaker 1: enlarged footprint, and not just because my size fourteen feet

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Speaker 1: are still growing, which they are for some nightmarish reason,

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Speaker 1: but more immediately, on this all new edition of Countdown,

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Speaker 1: me and George Steinbrenner and separately Christin nom goes to

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Speaker 1: Argentina and takes Corey Lewandowski with her so she can

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Speaker 1: ride on top to her heart's content, ride on top

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Speaker 1: of Argentinian horses. What did you think I meant? That's next?

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Speaker 1: This is Countdown. This is Countdown with Keith Olberman stell

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Speaker 1: ahead on this all new edition of Countdown. I was

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Speaker 1: talking to a relatively new friend about George Steinbrenner the

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Speaker 1: other day, the late owner of the New York Yankees,

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Speaker 1: the guy who was the owner of the New York

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Speaker 1: Yankees the last time they won the World Series, who

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Speaker 1: bought the team when I was fourteen for nine million

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Speaker 1: dollars from CBS, but agreed to pretend it was twelve

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Speaker 1: million dollars to makes CBS look better. Forbes says the

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Speaker 1: Yankees are now worth eight billion dollars. George said he

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Speaker 1: knew that was going to happen in advance, or he would.

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Speaker 1: My friend could not believe that George Steinbrenner and I

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Speaker 1: were cordial, let alone friends, or let alone that he

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Speaker 1: wrote fan letters and greeted me with hugs and used

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Speaker 1: to ask how my mom was my friend George next

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Speaker 1: in things I promised not to tell first. Believe it

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Speaker 1: or not, there's still more new idiots to talk about.

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Speaker 1: The roundup of the miscreants, morons and dunning Krugriffek specimens

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Speaker 1: who constitute today's other worst persons in the world. Honorable

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Speaker 1: mention one of my many elm the Waters MSNBC I

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Speaker 1: read from Status by Oliver Darcy. In the coming weeks,

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Speaker 1: moving boxes will begin to arrive at thirty Rockefeller Plaza.

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Speaker 1: MSNBC staffers, long spread across multiple floors of the iconic

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Speaker 1: building will pack up decades of history and prepare for

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Speaker 1: a symbolic leap into the future. Well, they've only been

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Speaker 1: in thirty Rocks since two thousand and seven, it's not

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Speaker 1: decades yet. By mid September, the network will trade it's

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Speaker 1: longtime home thirty Rock, you know, where NBC has always

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Speaker 1: been except when MSNB was in secaucas because they didn't

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Speaker 1: want us to sort of, you know, possibly pee on

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Speaker 1: the carpet or something.

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Speaker 5: At thirty Rock.

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Speaker 1: It will trade its longtime home for new offices in

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Speaker 1: Times Square, a two floor setup in the former BuzzFeed headquarters,

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Speaker 1: connected by dual staircases. We are not going to some

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Speaker 1: closet in five die one, senior staff equipped, noting that

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Speaker 1: the modern space on floors will include new studios, a

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Speaker 1: central newsroom, and for the first time, a single contiguous

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Speaker 1: home base. Unquote translation, NBC kick them out of thirty Rock.

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Speaker 1: They're going to the disused former headquarters of BuzzFeed. Thank god.

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Speaker 1: It was like when MLB Network took over our old

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Speaker 1: studios in thirty Rock two thousand and nine. He hadn't

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Speaker 1: been there in two thousand and seven. Guy goes into

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Speaker 1: my old office who I knew, and I called him up,

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Speaker 1: or he called me up, and he said, what is

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Speaker 1: this in your old office that I've just taken over?

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Speaker 1: It was trash. I had left there the day we

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Speaker 1: moved out. They hadn't even cleaned the place. Now they're

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Speaker 1: going into the old BuzzFeed offices. What I mean, you

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Speaker 1: couldn't get the old New York Herald Tribune location. The

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Speaker 1: translation is NBC has kicked them out of thirty Rock,

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Speaker 1: and what's next is they'll start cutting staff and after

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Speaker 1: that they'll sell the place, maybe to Murdoch or to Trump.

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Speaker 1: And as MSNBC gradually disappears because it just couldn't be

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Speaker 1: bothered to fight for the people that were being laid off,

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Speaker 1: who were of color, or who had unpopular opinions, or

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Speaker 1: who would just not repeat democratic doctrinaire bullshit, all of

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Speaker 1: these failures when they all come together into one vanishing point,

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Speaker 1: when MSNBC gradually disappears, until like the cheshire Cat, there's

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Speaker 1: nothing left but the grin of Rachel Meadow fading in

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Speaker 1: the trees. You will not hear a peep from her

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Speaker 1: or Hayes or O'Donnell, or especially Scarborough, because they got

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Speaker 1: their money. Here are the actual nominees. Runner up is

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Speaker 1: worse Andrew Cuomo, who is still running for mayor of

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Speaker 1: New York because being humiliated seventeen times a day is

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Speaker 1: apparently insufficient. Zenith Poles and public progress out with the

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Speaker 1: latest New York City polling, as the nation, including misled

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Speaker 1: governors like Josh Shapiro of Pennsylvania, continue to view Zoran

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Speaker 1: Mamdani as some sort of alien force, when in point

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Speaker 1: of fact, he's a kid from the Bronx. Here's the

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Speaker 1: latest polling, So I go from the top down or

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Speaker 1: the bottom up. Adams the current mayor seven percent undecided,

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Speaker 1: five percent, Curtis Sliwa, who owns a beret, thirteen percent,

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Speaker 1: Cuomo twenty two percent, mam Dani fifty percent fifty percent.

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Speaker 1: The Democratic nominee is Mamdani. He is beating the Republican

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Speaker 1: fifty to thirteen, despite the presence of what is nominally

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Speaker 1: a Democratic mayor and the former Democratic disgraced governor of

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Speaker 1: New York, who are sucking up twenty nine percent of

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Speaker 1: the vote that would otherwise almost automatically go to the

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Speaker 1: Democratic nonee selected by the people of the city, who

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Speaker 1: Cuomo is trying to invalidate. So what would happen according

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Speaker 1: to this poll, if Adams were to drop out and

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Speaker 1: Sliwa and the other combinations, Okay, if Adams did not

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Speaker 1: run for mayor as an independent and these were the candidates,

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Speaker 1: who would you vote for? Ma'm Danny goes up a point. No, Adams,

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Speaker 1: It's now ma'mdanny fifty one to twenty five over Cuoto.

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Speaker 1: Sleewood gets two points. Cuomo only goes up three points.

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Speaker 1: If the race was just mamdanny versus Eric Adams, mamdanny

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Speaker 1: would win fifty nine to thirty two. This man would

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Speaker 1: get sixty percent of the vote in this city if

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Speaker 1: Cuomo did not run. Please Lord, Please Lord, who would

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Speaker 1: you vote for ma'm donnie fifty five percent? I guess

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Speaker 1: this proves that Adams is still more unpopular than Cuomo.

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Speaker 1: You got that going for you, Andrew, ma'm danny fifty five.

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Speaker 1: Slee was sixteen, Adams fourteen. So with no Cuomo, mam

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Speaker 1: donnie then beats the Republican nominee fifty five sixteen. Unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, dude, all you Democrats who aren't sure like

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Speaker 1: Josh Shapiro, Oh, I don't know. He's got a scary name.

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Speaker 1: His name starts with the Z. Could he change his

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Speaker 1: name to Zeke? If he changed his name to Zeke,

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Speaker 1: ma'm donnie, maybe I could vote for him?

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Speaker 5: Then?

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Speaker 1: Why why don't you? Why don't you support John Fetterman again?

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Speaker 1: Mam donnie would win at least half the vote in

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Speaker 1: this city, despite the nation's efforts to unseat him. Led

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Speaker 1: by The New York Times, which can melt in the

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Speaker 1: hot sun as far as I'm concerned. You know the

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Speaker 1: shooting on Park Avenue here where the guy who apparently

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Speaker 1: believed he had CTE and it was the National Football

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Speaker 1: League's fault walked in with a long gun to a

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Speaker 1: Park Avenue building. The New York Times covered that. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was the first local news story the New

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Speaker 1: York Times covered about New York in maybe seventeen or

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Speaker 1: eighteen years. New York is just a brand name. That's

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Speaker 1: where their offices are. They could be the Altuona Times,

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Speaker 1: no offense, Altuon. I wouldn't wish the Times on you

644
00:46:09,675 --> 00:46:14,515
Speaker 1: under any circumstances. Speaking of bad media, the runner up

645
00:46:14,595 --> 00:46:18,595
Speaker 1: worser Brendan Carr, or as you may know him, Yusuf

646
00:46:18,635 --> 00:46:22,635
Speaker 1: goubus He, the director of advocacy at the Freedom of

647
00:46:22,675 --> 00:46:26,635
Speaker 1: the Press Foundation Seth Stern again. This is according to

648
00:46:26,715 --> 00:46:31,275
Speaker 1: Oliver Darcy has filed a disciplinary complaint against Brendan Carr,

649
00:46:31,915 --> 00:46:34,195
Speaker 1: saying that he has quote blurred the line between law

650
00:46:34,235 --> 00:46:38,915
Speaker 1: and politics, reviving baseless investigations into major news networks, threatening

651
00:46:38,915 --> 00:46:42,555
Speaker 1: companies over their diversity initiatives, and slow walking approval of

652
00:46:42,595 --> 00:46:46,235
Speaker 1: Paramount Global's merger with Skydance Media while Donald Trump pursued

653
00:46:46,275 --> 00:46:51,275
Speaker 1: an absurd sixty minutes lawsuit against the company. I'm sure

654
00:46:51,275 --> 00:46:54,275
Speaker 1: the response to this for mister Carr was, Yeah, that's

655
00:46:54,315 --> 00:46:56,755
Speaker 1: a why I got the job. The complaint does not

656
00:46:56,915 --> 00:47:03,235
Speaker 1: say this, but basically it's absolutely the case. The Paramount

657
00:47:03,275 --> 00:47:07,875
Speaker 1: Skydance CBS was approved by the FCC after CBS paid

658
00:47:07,915 --> 00:47:13,955
Speaker 1: Trump sixteen million and installed a Trump allegiant in house

659
00:47:14,075 --> 00:47:17,315
Speaker 1: monitor to make sure they don't do anything to offend Trump.

660
00:47:17,675 --> 00:47:24,915
Speaker 1: I understand they're hiring from Columbia University. Trump's shakedown, said

661
00:47:24,955 --> 00:47:28,195
Speaker 1: mister Stern, who has filed this complaint of Paramount could

662
00:47:28,195 --> 00:47:30,635
Speaker 1: not have worked without a credible threat that the administration

663
00:47:30,675 --> 00:47:34,235
Speaker 1: would not approve Paramount's merger with Skydance unless it paid up.

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Speaker 1: This is again to Oliver Darcy. Here's the punchline. It

665
00:47:38,075 --> 00:47:41,275
Speaker 1: seems obvious to us that a licensed attorney should not

666
00:47:41,355 --> 00:47:45,035
Speaker 1: be able to help his boss make a mockery of

667
00:47:45,075 --> 00:47:49,395
Speaker 1: the legal system by laundering bribes through the courts without consequence.

668
00:47:50,355 --> 00:47:53,835
Speaker 1: So he has written to the Office of Disciplinary Council

669
00:47:54,115 --> 00:47:57,915
Speaker 1: at the DC Court of Appeals asking the body to

670
00:47:58,075 --> 00:48:02,555
Speaker 1: investigate the head of the FCC, Brendan Carr, and potentially

671
00:48:03,035 --> 00:48:07,275
Speaker 1: disbar him. May him an on lawyer. That should be

672
00:48:07,315 --> 00:48:10,635
Speaker 1: the start. Then he should need to get several lawyers

673
00:48:10,835 --> 00:48:14,155
Speaker 1: to keep him out of prison. But the winner, speaking

674
00:48:14,155 --> 00:48:19,035
Speaker 1: of which, the Secretary of Homeland Security for her own dalliances,

675
00:48:19,915 --> 00:48:28,755
Speaker 1: Christie Nome, Christy Garden Gnome, she went to Argentina. She

676
00:48:28,915 --> 00:48:34,235
Speaker 1: went to Argentina and rode a big horsey there because well,

677
00:48:34,755 --> 00:48:37,515
Speaker 1: she has a cowboy hat. And what two people who

678
00:48:37,595 --> 00:48:43,675
Speaker 1: own cowboy hats do they ride horses. Little known thing

679
00:48:43,755 --> 00:48:47,195
Speaker 1: about this taxpayer funded that is, you paid for this

680
00:48:47,755 --> 00:48:52,875
Speaker 1: vacation horsey trip, during which, to her credit, Christy Nome

681
00:48:52,955 --> 00:48:57,155
Speaker 1: did not kill anybody's dog. Christy Nome was accompanied on

682
00:48:57,195 --> 00:49:00,955
Speaker 1: this taxpayer trip by her quote virtual chief of staff

683
00:49:01,075 --> 00:49:14,395
Speaker 1: and her ADVA Guyzor Cory lou and Dawski. No, she

684
00:49:14,475 --> 00:49:17,955
Speaker 1: only rode the horse that we know of, But this

685
00:49:18,075 --> 00:49:24,355
Speaker 1: was also a taxpayer expense. Now brought Lauren Lewandowski along

686
00:49:24,435 --> 00:49:27,595
Speaker 1: for the ride. Now, if you bring you know you're

687
00:49:27,595 --> 00:49:29,915
Speaker 1: going on a taxpayer funded trip, you might as well

688
00:49:29,915 --> 00:49:34,035
Speaker 1: bring the guy with you, because that way there's more

689
00:49:34,115 --> 00:49:38,155
Speaker 1: bang for the buck. Christy, It's not cheating if the

690
00:49:38,195 --> 00:49:44,635
Speaker 1: taxpayers are paying for it. No. Two Day's other worst Parson.

691
00:49:45,835 --> 00:49:46,315
Speaker 3: In the.

692
00:49:55,395 --> 00:49:57,635
Speaker 1: To the number one story and things I promised not

693
00:49:57,755 --> 00:50:00,155
Speaker 1: to tell and things I promised not to tell about

694
00:50:00,195 --> 00:50:05,275
Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner. George Steinbrenner, the late owner of the New

695
00:50:05,315 --> 00:50:08,075
Speaker 1: York Yankees, the last owner of the New York Yankees,

696
00:50:08,155 --> 00:50:11,075
Speaker 1: under which the New York Yankees won the World Series,

697
00:50:11,315 --> 00:50:14,555
Speaker 1: the New York Yankees being, despite all evidence and claims

698
00:50:14,555 --> 00:50:18,995
Speaker 1: to the contrary, the most underachieving franchise in all of

699
00:50:19,035 --> 00:50:23,275
Speaker 1: baseball and probably in all of sports, every last resource.

700
00:50:23,435 --> 00:50:25,915
Speaker 1: Number one on the list, and they haven't gotten it

701
00:50:25,955 --> 00:50:33,675
Speaker 1: done since George died in two thousand and nine. George

702
00:50:33,675 --> 00:50:37,235
Speaker 1: Steinbrenner was a professional friend of mine. It is still,

703
00:50:37,355 --> 00:50:40,875
Speaker 1: to this day so unlikely an outcome that I find

704
00:50:40,915 --> 00:50:43,035
Speaker 1: it hard to believe sometimes and I have to double

705
00:50:43,115 --> 00:50:45,555
Speaker 1: check myself and think, did I dream that? And the

706
00:50:45,555 --> 00:50:49,115
Speaker 1: answer is no. George Steinbrenner used to write fan letters

707
00:50:49,475 --> 00:50:54,675
Speaker 1: to my bosses. George Steinbrenner, who did not like television

708
00:50:54,715 --> 00:50:59,075
Speaker 1: people criticizing his team, but liked me, and who was

709
00:50:59,115 --> 00:51:01,755
Speaker 1: a rock ribbed Republican who used to give free tickets

710
00:51:01,795 --> 00:51:04,475
Speaker 1: to Donald Trump because Donald Trump's so rich. Of course

711
00:51:04,515 --> 00:51:07,955
Speaker 1: he's free tickets. And used to let Rudy Giuliani sit

712
00:51:08,035 --> 00:51:10,195
Speaker 1: there and go on the field because of course, the

713
00:51:10,235 --> 00:51:12,395
Speaker 1: one thing you want more than anything else is a

714
00:51:12,435 --> 00:51:16,915
Speaker 1: divisive fascist. As a fan of your team, loved my

715
00:51:17,075 --> 00:51:22,555
Speaker 1: political shows, loved them. We once sat in Cleveland in

716
00:51:22,595 --> 00:51:25,315
Speaker 1: the bowels of the stadium there during a playoff series

717
00:51:25,315 --> 00:51:28,115
Speaker 1: in which the Yankees were in some peril, and George

718
00:51:28,155 --> 00:51:30,595
Speaker 1: talked to me about how much he loved my show,

719
00:51:31,395 --> 00:51:35,315
Speaker 1: and I said, George, I'm a liberal, I know, but

720
00:51:35,355 --> 00:51:39,075
Speaker 1: it's a great show. That was George Steinbrenner. People who

721
00:51:39,115 --> 00:51:41,395
Speaker 1: worked for him would say they never heard anything that

722
00:51:41,555 --> 00:51:44,315
Speaker 1: nice from him in their lives. And that is if

723
00:51:44,315 --> 00:51:47,715
Speaker 1: you ever read Bill Madden's biography of George Steinbrenner, the

724
00:51:47,835 --> 00:51:53,355
Speaker 1: overarching theme, if you worked for George, kiss your life goodbye.

725
00:51:53,755 --> 00:51:56,275
Speaker 1: If you never worked for George or used to work

726
00:51:56,315 --> 00:52:00,155
Speaker 1: for George, he was your best friend. I met him

727
00:52:00,155 --> 00:52:02,355
Speaker 1: first when I was a teenager and my dad had

728
00:52:02,395 --> 00:52:04,475
Speaker 1: season tickets to the Yankee Stadium and there was some

729
00:52:04,675 --> 00:52:07,435
Speaker 1: sort of open house for season ticket holders and I

730
00:52:07,515 --> 00:52:09,835
Speaker 1: was I don't know, fourteen or fifteen, and we just

731
00:52:09,875 --> 00:52:10,395
Speaker 1: said hello.

732
00:52:10,515 --> 00:52:11,035
Speaker 5: That was it.

733
00:52:11,635 --> 00:52:13,715
Speaker 1: The next time, in a story I have told here,

734
00:52:14,475 --> 00:52:17,115
Speaker 1: Charlie Steiner, my boss and my second job in radio

735
00:52:17,155 --> 00:52:19,715
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one, tasked me and the producer named

736
00:52:19,755 --> 00:52:22,835
Speaker 1: John Martin was trying to find out when a meeting

737
00:52:23,035 --> 00:52:25,915
Speaker 1: involving Steinbrenner would take place during the nineteen eighty one

738
00:52:25,955 --> 00:52:28,795
Speaker 1: baseball strike. And after a day of getting absolutely nowhere,

739
00:52:28,835 --> 00:52:31,195
Speaker 1: to the point that John and I called the same

740
00:52:31,435 --> 00:52:34,795
Speaker 1: executive we did not know looking for information at the

741
00:52:34,875 --> 00:52:36,635
Speaker 1: same time, to the point where the man had to

742
00:52:36,635 --> 00:52:39,075
Speaker 1: put one of us on hold to answer the call

743
00:52:39,155 --> 00:52:41,715
Speaker 1: from the other one. I gave up, said if Charlie

744
00:52:41,755 --> 00:52:44,115
Speaker 1: doesn't like it, he can fire me. Walked home, cross

745
00:52:44,195 --> 00:52:47,075
Speaker 1: the street, and as I crossed the street, opens a

746
00:52:47,235 --> 00:52:51,035
Speaker 1: door from a bar and outsteps George Steinbrenner in a

747
00:52:51,115 --> 00:52:54,595
Speaker 1: tucks walking to his limo, turns around, looks back at

748
00:52:54,595 --> 00:52:57,915
Speaker 1: the bar, and shouts all the information about the meeting

749
00:52:57,955 --> 00:52:59,755
Speaker 1: that we've been trying to get all day to the

750
00:52:59,795 --> 00:53:02,555
Speaker 1: owner of the Baltimore Orioles down to the point where

751
00:53:02,555 --> 00:53:06,355
Speaker 1: I said, jeez, he's given me everything but the cross street,

752
00:53:06,395 --> 00:53:10,315
Speaker 1: at which point George screams, Eddie, what's the cross Street?

753
00:53:11,115 --> 00:53:14,235
Speaker 1: And I knew there was a god that was nineteen

754
00:53:14,275 --> 00:53:17,035
Speaker 1: eighty one. Nineteen eighty two was the beginning of my

755
00:53:17,155 --> 00:53:20,315
Speaker 1: friendship with George Steinbrenner, and what a friendship it was.

756
00:53:21,515 --> 00:53:24,035
Speaker 1: If I really were in financial trouble, if I were

757
00:53:24,155 --> 00:53:26,915
Speaker 1: arrested at some point, I think I might have called

758
00:53:26,995 --> 00:53:32,355
Speaker 1: him for bail money, or at least a lawyer. So

759
00:53:32,475 --> 00:53:36,555
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, George reached his pinnacle of firing managers.

760
00:53:37,115 --> 00:53:39,595
Speaker 1: The Yankees had not fired a manager in mid season

761
00:53:39,635 --> 00:53:42,915
Speaker 1: since nineteen ninety, which brought on all of these reminiscences

762
00:53:42,955 --> 00:53:46,355
Speaker 1: about George Steinbrenner. I believe the total was in my

763
00:53:46,435 --> 00:53:49,515
Speaker 1: first seven years in the business, he changed managers ten times,

764
00:53:49,875 --> 00:53:51,995
Speaker 1: six of those in mid season, and one year he

765
00:53:52,035 --> 00:53:55,475
Speaker 1: did it twice. So we're in nineteen eighty two. He's

766
00:53:55,475 --> 00:53:59,235
Speaker 1: already fired the starting manager, Bob Lemon once and replaced

767
00:53:59,275 --> 00:54:02,395
Speaker 1: him with Gene Michael, and now in August, I think

768
00:54:02,435 --> 00:54:05,275
Speaker 1: he's fired Geen Michael and he holds a new conference,

769
00:54:05,275 --> 00:54:08,595
Speaker 1: which is significant not for him having fired two managers

770
00:54:08,635 --> 00:54:12,515
Speaker 1: in one season, but for him not showing up. George

771
00:54:12,515 --> 00:54:16,635
Speaker 1: Steinbrenner did not attend the firing of Gene Michael. This

772
00:54:16,755 --> 00:54:21,315
Speaker 1: stunned everybody there. George loved to fire managers and loved

773
00:54:21,315 --> 00:54:23,995
Speaker 1: to be there because he put him on TV and

774
00:54:23,995 --> 00:54:27,635
Speaker 1: on the front pages of the newspapers. That was when

775
00:54:27,675 --> 00:54:30,115
Speaker 1: he began to tire of the whole process, and he

776
00:54:30,195 --> 00:54:34,675
Speaker 1: later changed into a man who never fired a manager

777
00:54:34,755 --> 00:54:38,675
Speaker 1: mid season again after about well after nineteen ninety, and

778
00:54:38,715 --> 00:54:41,235
Speaker 1: he was not actually running the ball club during that season.

779
00:54:42,675 --> 00:54:45,155
Speaker 1: So we're standing there just gawking at the idea that

780
00:54:45,195 --> 00:54:47,955
Speaker 1: we've got a George Steinbrenner fires another manager story, and

781
00:54:48,075 --> 00:54:50,715
Speaker 1: no George Steinbrenner. When the late Mike Shalen, who was

782
00:54:50,755 --> 00:54:52,395
Speaker 1: then writing for the New York Post and had been

783
00:54:52,435 --> 00:54:54,235
Speaker 1: one of my dear friends in my first job at

784
00:54:54,275 --> 00:54:57,955
Speaker 1: United pres International, saunters over to me as the rookie

785
00:54:58,035 --> 00:55:00,995
Speaker 1: CNN sports reporter in New York, and standing with me

786
00:55:01,115 --> 00:55:04,675
Speaker 1: is the aforementioned producer from the RCAO radio network, John Martin,

787
00:55:05,475 --> 00:55:08,155
Speaker 1: and Mike says with his little sibilant ss, you know,

788
00:55:08,235 --> 00:55:12,075
Speaker 1: if I was an enterprising reporter, I might wander up

789
00:55:12,075 --> 00:55:17,355
Speaker 1: to Yankee Stadium's press box and don't go into the office,

790
00:55:17,395 --> 00:55:19,955
Speaker 1: but go into the press box where the window is

791
00:55:20,035 --> 00:55:23,875
Speaker 1: to George Steinbrenner's hallway and office and just stand there

792
00:55:23,875 --> 00:55:26,195
Speaker 1: for a little while on some pretext and look in

793
00:55:26,275 --> 00:55:29,515
Speaker 1: to see if he's there, because he might have already

794
00:55:29,515 --> 00:55:31,155
Speaker 1: been there and talked to a reporter from the New

795
00:55:31,235 --> 00:55:33,875
Speaker 1: York Post. Well, they didn't have to tell us twice.

796
00:55:34,275 --> 00:55:36,675
Speaker 1: Then Mike says, don't two of you don't leave together?

797
00:55:38,275 --> 00:55:40,715
Speaker 1: So John and I left, and we went up separately,

798
00:55:40,755 --> 00:55:42,835
Speaker 1: and we went out into the press box under the

799
00:55:42,875 --> 00:55:45,115
Speaker 1: premise that John was working with me and I needed

800
00:55:45,115 --> 00:55:47,835
Speaker 1: the press box as a backdrop for my on camera

801
00:55:47,915 --> 00:55:51,035
Speaker 1: report about George Steinbrenner not being at the press conference.

802
00:55:51,075 --> 00:55:53,675
Speaker 1: And sure enough, while we're standing there setting up the camera,

803
00:55:53,955 --> 00:55:58,675
Speaker 1: George Steinberner wanders through a hallway visible through a glass,

804
00:55:58,875 --> 00:56:02,435
Speaker 1: very thin glass which he could speak through, and I

805
00:56:02,515 --> 00:56:05,315
Speaker 1: saw him tapped on the glass with my CNN microphone

806
00:56:05,595 --> 00:56:08,075
Speaker 1: and kind of waved optimistically with it, like you want

807
00:56:08,075 --> 00:56:09,635
Speaker 1: to come out and do an interview, and he gave

808
00:56:09,675 --> 00:56:13,115
Speaker 1: a very enthusiastic yes, and came out into the press

809
00:56:13,155 --> 00:56:15,995
Speaker 1: box and gave John Martin and I an exclusive. John

810
00:56:16,035 --> 00:56:19,355
Speaker 1: had the radio exclusive, I had the television exclusive, and

811
00:56:19,395 --> 00:56:22,275
Speaker 1: Mike Shanon, who had already interviewed him, had the newspaper exclusive,

812
00:56:22,355 --> 00:56:25,195
Speaker 1: and everybody else's story was Steinbrenner doesn't comment on the

813
00:56:25,195 --> 00:56:27,435
Speaker 1: firing of a manager, and we said, oh, yeah, he did.

814
00:56:27,435 --> 00:56:31,315
Speaker 1: He just didn't come into you outcome of this under

815
00:56:31,355 --> 00:56:34,635
Speaker 1: any other circumstances at Yankee Stadium. Now, if you tried that,

816
00:56:34,795 --> 00:56:37,835
Speaker 1: they would arrest you. You would be banished for life.

817
00:56:37,915 --> 00:56:42,235
Speaker 1: The Yankees are now very much a fascist organization. They

818
00:56:42,835 --> 00:56:45,755
Speaker 1: enforced the rules and don't really care about anything else,

819
00:56:45,915 --> 00:56:50,435
Speaker 1: obviously not about winning. Enough of that, I am now

820
00:56:50,475 --> 00:56:52,675
Speaker 1: a Yankee hater after forty two years of being a

821
00:56:52,675 --> 00:56:56,955
Speaker 1: season ticket holder. Okay, setting that aside for a point.

822
00:56:57,355 --> 00:57:00,715
Speaker 1: And by the way, that change also coincides with the

823
00:57:00,755 --> 00:57:03,595
Speaker 1: passing of George Steinbrenner at his succession by his not

824
00:57:03,635 --> 00:57:06,395
Speaker 1: two bright sons, Hank, who was smart enough to go,

825
00:57:06,635 --> 00:57:08,595
Speaker 1: I'm not smart enough to do this and turn it

826
00:57:08,595 --> 00:57:11,395
Speaker 1: over to his brother, Hal, who was so bad at

827
00:57:11,395 --> 00:57:13,075
Speaker 1: it and is so bad at it that I once

828
00:57:13,075 --> 00:57:16,235
Speaker 1: wrote an article on the MLB dot com website saying,

829
00:57:16,475 --> 00:57:19,115
Speaker 1: I'm going to need to see the paternity test before

830
00:57:19,155 --> 00:57:22,955
Speaker 1: I really believe that Hank Steinbrenner is George Steinbrenner's son.

831
00:57:23,075 --> 00:57:26,715
Speaker 1: He seems to have inherited nothing of his father's intelligence.

832
00:57:27,595 --> 00:57:30,155
Speaker 1: Yankees banned me for that all right back to the

833
00:57:30,155 --> 00:57:33,075
Speaker 1: story of nineteen eighty two. About a week after this interview,

834
00:57:33,115 --> 00:57:36,515
Speaker 1: which the CNN people were startled by, because in nineteen

835
00:57:36,555 --> 00:57:39,235
Speaker 1: eighty two, Ted Turner, who founded and owned the network,

836
00:57:39,435 --> 00:57:42,955
Speaker 1: could not get an exclusive interview with the America's cup

837
00:57:43,035 --> 00:57:46,355
Speaker 1: yacht captain for US. But I got an exclusive interview

838
00:57:46,395 --> 00:57:49,235
Speaker 1: with George Steinbrenner after he fired a manager and wouldn't

839
00:57:49,275 --> 00:57:53,075
Speaker 1: talk to anybody about it. I get a call from

840
00:57:53,075 --> 00:57:56,515
Speaker 1: the president of Cnnsports, one of the immortals of television

841
00:57:56,595 --> 00:57:59,595
Speaker 1: sports management, one of the great innovators, the man who

842
00:57:59,635 --> 00:58:03,115
Speaker 1: co invented Monday night football, and went to his bosses

843
00:58:03,155 --> 00:58:05,275
Speaker 1: at CBS and said, I have this great idan for

844
00:58:05,395 --> 00:58:07,915
Speaker 1: Monday night football, and they went, Who's gonna watch Monday

845
00:58:07,955 --> 00:58:11,315
Speaker 1: night football? Who's gonna watch primetime TV football. The last

846
00:58:11,355 --> 00:58:13,795
Speaker 1: network that tried that was Dumont and they went out

847
00:58:13,835 --> 00:58:18,235
Speaker 1: of business. You're fired. And so Pete Roselle, the commissioner

848
00:58:18,235 --> 00:58:21,155
Speaker 1: of the NFL with whom he co invented Monday night football,

849
00:58:21,395 --> 00:58:24,955
Speaker 1: took the idea instead to ABC, thus saving the ABC

850
00:58:25,115 --> 00:58:27,995
Speaker 1: Television network and creating the mess we have at ABC

851
00:58:28,035 --> 00:58:30,275
Speaker 1: and Disney and Bob Iger right now. If it hadn't

852
00:58:30,315 --> 00:58:32,475
Speaker 1: been for Monday Night Football, Bob Iger would be a

853
00:58:32,515 --> 00:58:36,195
Speaker 1: local weatherman in Binghamton, New York, because ABC probably would

854
00:58:36,195 --> 00:58:40,475
Speaker 1: have gone out of business. I'm meandering is always in

855
00:58:40,515 --> 00:58:44,635
Speaker 1: telling this story. Bill mcphil calls me. Bill mcvail, who

856
00:58:45,075 --> 00:58:48,955
Speaker 1: who invented not just Monday Night Football, but also the

857
00:58:49,115 --> 00:58:52,795
Speaker 1: entire system by which you watch football today, the show,

858
00:58:53,035 --> 00:58:55,955
Speaker 1: the local games and a network game back to back.

859
00:58:56,595 --> 00:58:59,475
Speaker 1: He invented that for CBS. NBC copied it, and that's

860
00:58:59,515 --> 00:59:05,835
Speaker 1: why every NFL game is broadcast by one organization at

861
00:59:05,835 --> 00:59:08,115
Speaker 1: a time. They do deals with many of them, but

862
00:59:08,195 --> 00:59:10,635
Speaker 1: it's sold by the league, not by the teams. And

863
00:59:10,675 --> 00:59:13,755
Speaker 1: that's why the NFL never had to really push to

864
00:59:13,795 --> 00:59:16,715
Speaker 1: put in salary caps or anything else, because the principal

865
00:59:16,755 --> 00:59:20,635
Speaker 1: source of income was automatically shared. Because Bill mcveil and

866
00:59:20,675 --> 00:59:24,075
Speaker 1: Pete Rosell figured this out in nineteen Flipping fifty six,

867
00:59:25,835 --> 00:59:27,915
Speaker 1: Bill mcvhil calls me in the office in New York,

868
00:59:27,955 --> 00:59:30,755
Speaker 1: and I can hear the startled in his voice. Keith

869
00:59:31,515 --> 00:59:36,555
Speaker 1: I just got a note from George Steinbrenner complimenting you

870
00:59:37,155 --> 00:59:40,955
Speaker 1: on your great work and complimenting me on having such

871
00:59:41,155 --> 00:59:44,635
Speaker 1: an enterprising young reporter in the New York office. And

872
00:59:44,675 --> 00:59:47,155
Speaker 1: I was reading it thinking, I wonder who he means,

873
00:59:47,435 --> 00:59:49,355
Speaker 1: and I went, thanks Bill, and he goes, no. I

874
00:59:49,435 --> 00:59:53,075
Speaker 1: was wondering what this could possibly be about, and then

875
00:59:53,675 --> 00:59:56,555
Speaker 1: he said he had the presence of mind to not

876
00:59:56,755 --> 00:59:59,795
Speaker 1: just follow the rules, but come up and without violating

877
00:59:59,835 --> 01:00:02,915
Speaker 1: any rules, solicit me for an interview, which I was

878
01:00:02,915 --> 01:00:06,035
Speaker 1: happy to give him. And he asked great question He

879
01:00:06,075 --> 01:00:09,435
Speaker 1: asked me philosophical questions about why I changed managers, rather

880
01:00:09,515 --> 01:00:11,555
Speaker 1: than why did you do this? And how dare you?

881
01:00:11,595 --> 01:00:15,715
Speaker 1: And doesn't He asked great questions and he showed pluck

882
01:00:16,995 --> 01:00:20,155
Speaker 1: and I said, well, yeah it was I didn't plan

883
01:00:20,235 --> 01:00:22,835
Speaker 1: it that way, it just worked out. Well, congratulations, we're

884
01:00:22,875 --> 01:00:25,315
Speaker 1: going to send you a bonus. The bonus turned out

885
01:00:25,355 --> 01:00:27,995
Speaker 1: to be twenty five dollars. On the other hand, my

886
01:00:28,035 --> 01:00:30,995
Speaker 1: salary was twenty six thousand dollars, so twenty five dollars

887
01:00:30,995 --> 01:00:33,395
Speaker 1: actually was like two meals worth in nineteen eighty two.

888
01:00:33,715 --> 01:00:36,315
Speaker 1: So that was my first experience with George. He wrote

889
01:00:36,555 --> 01:00:40,315
Speaker 1: a fan letter to my boss at CNN. Now I

890
01:00:40,395 --> 01:00:42,475
Speaker 1: go and leave CNN and go and work in local

891
01:00:42,475 --> 01:00:44,235
Speaker 1: news in Boston where he would not have seen me,

892
01:00:44,275 --> 01:00:46,195
Speaker 1: and going work in local news in Los Angeles where

893
01:00:46,195 --> 01:00:48,035
Speaker 1: he would not have seen me. But now when I

894
01:00:48,075 --> 01:00:50,835
Speaker 1: go to ESPN A decade later, in nineteen ninety two,

895
01:00:50,955 --> 01:00:53,075
Speaker 1: one of my first big assignments for them was to

896
01:00:53,155 --> 01:00:56,995
Speaker 1: anchor the Major League Baseball Expansion Draft that gave birth

897
01:00:57,035 --> 01:01:00,275
Speaker 1: to the Florida Marlins and the Colorado Rockies. November seventeenth,

898
01:01:00,515 --> 01:01:05,315
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety two, and sure as hell a fan appears,

899
01:01:05,995 --> 01:01:07,755
Speaker 1: a copy of which has been sent to me by

900
01:01:07,795 --> 01:01:11,475
Speaker 1: the secretary to Steve Bornstein, the president of ESPN, who

901
01:01:11,515 --> 01:01:14,195
Speaker 1: did not really like talent, and who dreamed at night

902
01:01:14,235 --> 01:01:17,835
Speaker 1: of finding some way to make ESPN talent free, so

903
01:01:17,915 --> 01:01:22,195
Speaker 1: that there just be highlights, no announcers, just highlights and

904
01:01:22,275 --> 01:01:27,595
Speaker 1: games without announcers, hopefully having the players described themselves as

905
01:01:27,635 --> 01:01:30,995
Speaker 1: they ran down the field. Steve and I later became

906
01:01:31,115 --> 01:01:34,555
Speaker 1: okay friends because politically we were aligned, But when I

907
01:01:34,635 --> 01:01:37,795
Speaker 1: worked for him, Steve used to say things like that, oh,

908
01:01:37,835 --> 01:01:39,795
Speaker 1: if I could only get away with not having talent

909
01:01:39,915 --> 01:01:43,075
Speaker 1: and mean them well, Sure enough, his office sends me

910
01:01:43,155 --> 01:01:45,915
Speaker 1: a copy of a letter, a fan letter on Yankee

911
01:01:45,915 --> 01:01:51,675
Speaker 1: stationery from George Steinbrenner complimenting me and the rest of

912
01:01:51,715 --> 01:01:55,115
Speaker 1: the team. And the team included Peter Gammons and Ray

913
01:01:55,195 --> 01:01:58,515
Speaker 1: Knight and ten other announcers, including our play by play

914
01:01:58,555 --> 01:02:01,955
Speaker 1: men John Miller and Joe Morgan just sort of dismissed

915
01:02:02,035 --> 01:02:04,515
Speaker 1: as the team. But I was the anchor of this

916
01:02:04,875 --> 01:02:08,515
Speaker 1: hour broadcast, and George was just gushing about what a

917
01:02:08,515 --> 01:02:15,275
Speaker 1: great job I did. To the president of ESPN, there

918
01:02:15,315 --> 01:02:18,635
Speaker 1: was a post it to this and it basically said,

919
01:02:19,075 --> 01:02:21,915
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe any of this, but it's nice

920
01:02:21,955 --> 01:02:26,715
Speaker 1: to have SB Steve Bornstein. That's nineteen ninety two. The

921
01:02:26,755 --> 01:02:31,395
Speaker 1: next year, George Steinbrenner came back off suspension and he

922
01:02:31,635 --> 01:02:35,435
Speaker 1: was granting a few long form interviews to various news organizations,

923
01:02:35,475 --> 01:02:37,635
Speaker 1: and ESPN approached him and he said, I don't want

924
01:02:37,635 --> 01:02:40,115
Speaker 1: to really do a sit down TV for any length,

925
01:02:40,115 --> 01:02:42,755
Speaker 1: but is that guy Olderman still working for you? Is

926
01:02:42,755 --> 01:02:44,755
Speaker 1: he still with the radio network in addition to the

927
01:02:44,755 --> 01:02:48,035
Speaker 1: Sports center stuff? And they said, yes, why I'll sit

928
01:02:48,075 --> 01:02:49,355
Speaker 1: down with him for an hour if you want to

929
01:02:49,355 --> 01:02:54,635
Speaker 1: schedule something on a weekend sure enough. We do an

930
01:02:54,675 --> 01:02:57,995
Speaker 1: hour about the Yankees and about suspension and if it's

931
01:02:58,115 --> 01:03:01,075
Speaker 1: changed him, and what he thinks about baseball and the

932
01:03:01,115 --> 01:03:06,035
Speaker 1: expansion draft and politics and the Commissioners Office and getting

933
01:03:06,115 --> 01:03:08,555
Speaker 1: rid of Buie Kun and was what about bart Cham

934
01:03:08,755 --> 01:03:11,475
Speaker 1: I mean, and dozens and dozens of issues. And now

935
01:03:11,515 --> 01:03:14,155
Speaker 1: we're live and we're coming to the end of the hour,

936
01:03:14,595 --> 01:03:17,235
Speaker 1: and I said, well, we're out of time, and oh no, really,

937
01:03:17,275 --> 01:03:18,995
Speaker 1: I'm really enjoying this. I said, well, if you want

938
01:03:18,995 --> 01:03:20,915
Speaker 1: to wait ten minutes, we'll come back after the top

939
01:03:20,915 --> 01:03:23,195
Speaker 1: of the hour. We could do some more. I was kidding.

940
01:03:23,235 --> 01:03:25,635
Speaker 1: George said, sure, I'm just going to go out to

941
01:03:25,675 --> 01:03:28,315
Speaker 1: the bathroom. Call me back on that number. Your producer

942
01:03:28,355 --> 01:03:31,635
Speaker 1: has it. Ten minutes later, we come back from the

943
01:03:31,715 --> 01:03:33,955
Speaker 1: news break. I'm not even supposed to still be on

944
01:03:33,995 --> 01:03:37,195
Speaker 1: the air. Good evening, and Keith Olberman ESPN Radio Sports

945
01:03:37,315 --> 01:03:41,035
Speaker 1: Radio ESPN, and here's our second hour with George Steinbrenner,

946
01:03:41,035 --> 01:03:46,475
Speaker 1: who went for another twenty minutes. So now I leave

947
01:03:46,715 --> 01:03:49,795
Speaker 1: ESPN in nineteen ninety seven and go to MSNBC, And

948
01:03:49,875 --> 01:03:51,955
Speaker 1: by the beginning of nineteen ninety eight it becomes an

949
01:03:51,995 --> 01:03:55,035
Speaker 1: all political show. And at first people were not sure

950
01:03:55,075 --> 01:03:57,315
Speaker 1: if I was a liberal or I was a conservative,

951
01:03:57,475 --> 01:03:59,915
Speaker 1: because I tried to treat that story of Clinton and

952
01:03:59,995 --> 01:04:03,035
Speaker 1: Lewinsky right down the middle, and the more and more

953
01:04:03,115 --> 01:04:06,635
Speaker 1: it became obvious that it was in a Republican plot

954
01:04:06,835 --> 01:04:09,875
Speaker 1: to try to remove both the president and the vice

955
01:04:09,915 --> 01:04:13,355
Speaker 1: president and somehow install that idiot Knut Gingrich as the

956
01:04:13,395 --> 01:04:15,915
Speaker 1: Speaker of the House and the last man standing as

957
01:04:15,955 --> 01:04:19,875
Speaker 1: the acting president. Before that became evident, I seemed kind

958
01:04:19,875 --> 01:04:22,635
Speaker 1: of neutral, and a lot of conservatives thought that I

959
01:04:22,675 --> 01:04:24,915
Speaker 1: had given them a fair shake and they didn't care

960
01:04:24,955 --> 01:04:27,595
Speaker 1: what I said after I stopped giving them a fair shake.

961
01:04:27,915 --> 01:04:30,835
Speaker 1: And in the bowels of that stadium in Cleveland, George

962
01:04:30,835 --> 01:04:34,635
Speaker 1: Steinbrenner and I talked about my TV show with Bud Selig,

963
01:04:34,715 --> 01:04:37,835
Speaker 1: the Commissioner of Baseball and an equally conservative man and

964
01:04:37,875 --> 01:04:40,995
Speaker 1: an equally unlikely friend and fan, and the two of

965
01:04:40,995 --> 01:04:45,475
Speaker 1: them were gushing fanboys about my original MSNBC show, The

966
01:04:45,475 --> 01:04:48,555
Speaker 1: Big Show and The White House in Crisis. I got

967
01:04:48,555 --> 01:04:50,675
Speaker 1: a note from George when I left to go to

968
01:04:50,755 --> 01:04:54,555
Speaker 1: Fox Sports. I have previously told you about how I

969
01:04:54,595 --> 01:04:58,115
Speaker 1: got thrown out of a riotous game at Yankee Red

970
01:04:58,115 --> 01:05:01,275
Speaker 1: Sox playoffs at Fenway Park in nineteen ninety nine by

971
01:05:01,315 --> 01:05:04,875
Speaker 1: an angry head of security at Fenway Park, the van

972
01:05:04,995 --> 01:05:07,075
Speaker 1: started to throw bottles on the field, and I was

973
01:05:07,115 --> 01:05:08,915
Speaker 1: told by my boss to get out on the field

974
01:05:08,915 --> 01:05:10,795
Speaker 1: and stand in front of the camera and the security

975
01:05:10,795 --> 01:05:13,475
Speaker 1: people's gout the f off the field gets it right there.

976
01:05:13,555 --> 01:05:16,315
Speaker 1: I'm throwing you out of the park. And the place

977
01:05:16,355 --> 01:05:18,355
Speaker 1: he put me in was the chair right next to

978
01:05:18,395 --> 01:05:24,035
Speaker 1: George Steinbrener, who greeted me with Hi. So George and

979
01:05:24,075 --> 01:05:26,795
Speaker 1: I were in touch rather frequently, and in two thousand,

980
01:05:26,915 --> 01:05:29,355
Speaker 1: of course, my mother got hit by a throw from

981
01:05:29,395 --> 01:05:32,635
Speaker 1: the ailing Yankee second baseman Chuck Knobloch, and George sent

982
01:05:32,675 --> 01:05:35,395
Speaker 1: a note asking how she was. And when they won

983
01:05:35,435 --> 01:05:38,355
Speaker 1: the World Series that fall, I was anchoring for Fox

984
01:05:38,395 --> 01:05:41,515
Speaker 1: and I was the talking head and the presentation in

985
01:05:41,555 --> 01:05:44,195
Speaker 1: which he was handed the World Series trophy, and George

986
01:05:44,235 --> 01:05:46,955
Speaker 1: showed up a minute beforehand and started to weep in

987
01:05:47,035 --> 01:05:51,675
Speaker 1: my presence. I'm so happy for your mother. My mom

988
01:05:51,755 --> 01:05:53,475
Speaker 1: was a Yankee fan and she'd gotten hit by a

989
01:05:53,475 --> 01:05:55,955
Speaker 1: throw at Yankee Stadium, and he was happy for my mother.

990
01:05:56,115 --> 01:05:58,515
Speaker 1: Is she here to see this? And I went, George,

991
01:05:58,555 --> 01:06:00,595
Speaker 1: where it's Shay stadium. We had to come here in

992
01:06:00,635 --> 01:06:02,795
Speaker 1: the seventies when you played here for two years while

993
01:06:02,795 --> 01:06:06,195
Speaker 1: they were renovating Yankee Stadium. Mother hates Shay Stadium more

994
01:06:06,195 --> 01:06:08,515
Speaker 1: than you do. She wouldn't come here if you let

995
01:06:08,515 --> 01:06:12,995
Speaker 1: her play third base. And George's face crumbled like some

996
01:06:13,075 --> 01:06:16,875
Speaker 1: cartoon and he just burst into tears and went, I

997
01:06:16,955 --> 01:06:21,795
Speaker 1: love her more than ever. The next year, after I

998
01:06:21,795 --> 01:06:25,635
Speaker 1: had left Fox Sports, George approached me late in two

999
01:06:25,635 --> 01:06:27,475
Speaker 1: thousand and one and said, I want you to be

1000
01:06:27,515 --> 01:06:30,115
Speaker 1: the voice of my new TV network. I want you

1001
01:06:30,155 --> 01:06:32,355
Speaker 1: to be the face and the voice of my two

1002
01:06:32,555 --> 01:06:35,155
Speaker 1: new TV network that carries the Yankee games and other

1003
01:06:35,235 --> 01:06:39,475
Speaker 1: games in years to come, the Yes Network. And I said, George,

1004
01:06:40,875 --> 01:06:44,315
Speaker 1: I adore you. I adore you too. You're a great,

1005
01:06:44,395 --> 01:06:48,395
Speaker 1: great broadcaster and a good decent guy. And I said, George,

1006
01:06:48,435 --> 01:06:50,315
Speaker 1: I would say exactly the same thing to you. Why

1007
01:06:50,355 --> 01:06:53,315
Speaker 1: would we want to spoil this by me working for you?

1008
01:06:53,875 --> 01:06:56,835
Speaker 1: And he looked at me shocked and then laughed and went,

1009
01:06:57,355 --> 01:07:01,275
Speaker 1: you're right again. And we didn't ever work together, and

1010
01:07:01,315 --> 01:07:04,435
Speaker 1: thus maintain the friendship for the rest of his life.

1011
01:07:04,755 --> 01:07:07,355
Speaker 1: The pinnacle of this was one of two things. Later on,

1012
01:07:09,235 --> 01:07:11,475
Speaker 1: I'm at a news conference in the bowels of Yankee

1013
01:07:11,475 --> 01:07:14,555
Speaker 1: Stadium where the Yankees have just obtained a pitcher. I

1014
01:07:14,635 --> 01:07:17,395
Speaker 1: believe it was Jeff Weaver. I believe it was from

1015
01:07:17,435 --> 01:07:19,515
Speaker 1: the Detroit Tigers, and there was some doubt as to

1016
01:07:19,555 --> 01:07:21,395
Speaker 1: whether or not he could handle the pressure in New York.

1017
01:07:21,715 --> 01:07:24,275
Speaker 1: And in this crowded news conference the door. I'm standing

1018
01:07:24,275 --> 01:07:27,035
Speaker 1: at the back by the door, hundreds of reporters crammed

1019
01:07:27,075 --> 01:07:30,555
Speaker 1: into a space designed for about fifty people. The door

1020
01:07:30,595 --> 01:07:33,075
Speaker 1: opened silently behind me, but I see out of the

1021
01:07:33,115 --> 01:07:36,315
Speaker 1: corner of my eye George Steinbrenner comes in. Nobody turns

1022
01:07:36,355 --> 01:07:39,075
Speaker 1: to greet him. I come over. We get a two

1023
01:07:39,115 --> 01:07:44,235
Speaker 1: handed handshake, and he whispers, how's he doing? And I said, well,

1024
01:07:44,275 --> 01:07:47,075
Speaker 1: so far, very good. But he hasn't thrown any pitches yet.

1025
01:07:47,235 --> 01:07:50,155
Speaker 1: Suddenly George bursts into laughter, and now everybody turns around

1026
01:07:50,275 --> 01:07:54,035
Speaker 1: and sees him, and Weaver has the presence of mind

1027
01:07:54,035 --> 01:07:56,355
Speaker 1: to applaud or something like that, and George, oh, I'm

1028
01:07:56,395 --> 01:07:59,275
Speaker 1: willing my cover give me a report on this afterwards,

1029
01:07:59,595 --> 01:08:02,715
Speaker 1: and I'm ushered into his box later in that day,

1030
01:08:02,795 --> 01:08:05,595
Speaker 1: and I said, I have some doubts. I think he'll

1031
01:08:05,635 --> 01:08:07,795
Speaker 1: be okay. Well, he wasn't. He wasn't okay, And George

1032
01:08:07,835 --> 01:08:10,475
Speaker 1: never accepted the idea that it wasn't my fault. I said,

1033
01:08:10,515 --> 01:08:13,515
Speaker 1: I didn't trade for him. George came out once in

1034
01:08:13,595 --> 01:08:16,955
Speaker 1: a game in which Weaver gave up like seven hits

1035
01:08:16,955 --> 01:08:19,355
Speaker 1: in the first inning, and came out into the press box,

1036
01:08:19,755 --> 01:08:22,155
Speaker 1: into the area with just the radio reporters which was

1037
01:08:22,195 --> 01:08:26,155
Speaker 1: adjacent to his box, and started screaming. I said, George,

1038
01:08:26,475 --> 01:08:29,555
Speaker 1: I don't mind this at all. It's a great story.

1039
01:08:29,955 --> 01:08:31,915
Speaker 1: And the radio guys, I'm sure don't mind at all.

1040
01:08:31,955 --> 01:08:34,395
Speaker 1: But you do know that the newspaper guys are just

1041
01:08:34,475 --> 01:08:38,115
Speaker 1: like ten feet away. That's not a soundproof booth that

1042
01:08:38,155 --> 01:08:40,315
Speaker 1: you're in here. They're going to see you doing this.

1043
01:08:40,755 --> 01:08:44,195
Speaker 1: Oh once again, thanks Keith, And then he scurried back

1044
01:08:44,195 --> 01:08:48,155
Speaker 1: into his office. It's not if it's not that the

1045
01:08:48,235 --> 01:08:54,835
Speaker 1: great topping moment of this. In two thousand and what

1046
01:08:54,995 --> 01:08:58,155
Speaker 1: was the year of the tsunami five, the tsunami in

1047
01:08:58,195 --> 01:09:02,995
Speaker 1: the Indian Ocean. George Steinbrenner raised a million dollars or

1048
01:09:03,035 --> 01:09:06,275
Speaker 1: so for the tsunami really fund headed by Bush and

1049
01:09:06,315 --> 01:09:09,595
Speaker 1: Clinton and Bill Clinton for a million dollars went to

1050
01:09:09,635 --> 01:09:12,795
Speaker 1: Yankee stadium to pick up the giant oversized check before

1051
01:09:12,795 --> 01:09:17,155
Speaker 1: a game against the Pittsburgh Pirates, the Pittsburgh Pirates whose

1052
01:09:17,195 --> 01:09:21,875
Speaker 1: broadcasters brought all of their announcers to New York for

1053
01:09:21,875 --> 01:09:23,995
Speaker 1: a special three day trip some sort of thing. So

1054
01:09:24,035 --> 01:09:29,315
Speaker 1: the press box is filled with Pittsburgh Pirates producers. It

1055
01:09:29,435 --> 01:09:32,035
Speaker 1: sounds like a tongue twister, but it was actually the case.

1056
01:09:32,635 --> 01:09:37,315
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates producers with pretzels. So there's nowhere to sit

1057
01:09:37,435 --> 01:09:40,835
Speaker 1: except in one seat for me in the radio press

1058
01:09:40,875 --> 01:09:44,275
Speaker 1: box adjoining George Steinbrenner's private box, which is empty except

1059
01:09:44,315 --> 01:09:46,995
Speaker 1: for George. And then in about the third inning in

1060
01:09:47,155 --> 01:09:53,795
Speaker 1: walks President Bill Clinton to sit with George. About an

1061
01:09:53,835 --> 01:09:56,635
Speaker 1: inning later, after President Clinton, who I had met once,

1062
01:09:57,235 --> 01:10:03,195
Speaker 1: waved at me and Steinbrenner waved at me, he sent

1063
01:10:03,315 --> 01:10:05,915
Speaker 1: Steinbrenner that is Randy Levine, who was the president of

1064
01:10:05,915 --> 01:10:08,315
Speaker 1: the Yankees, or would be and still is and had

1065
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Speaker 1: been Rudy Giuliani's deputy mayor. That's where that connection came from.

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Speaker 1: George sent Randy out into the radio press box, where

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Speaker 1: most of these radio guys who'd never seen him in

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Speaker 1: the flesh, were like, it's somebody important. And Randy said

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Speaker 1: mister Steinbrenner, who was wondering if you would like to

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Speaker 1: sit with him in President Clinton for a few innings,

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Speaker 1: And I made some sort of pretensive well, I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure if I have the time to do that. When

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Speaker 1: does he want to go now? It'd be good. Let

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Speaker 1: me just close my score book, and I was invited in,

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Speaker 1: and for several innings, I had the singular experience of

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Speaker 1: watching a Major League Baseball game in the owner's box

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Speaker 1: with the owner and the former president of the United States,

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Speaker 1: who I, as I said, barely knew and would not

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Speaker 1: have known me from my work at MSNBC yet, because

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Speaker 1: that really hadn't turned the corner yet. Instead, George Steinbrenner,

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Speaker 1: who had hit his head at some point and had

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Speaker 1: suffered some kind of cerebral event that they never ever diagnosed,

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Speaker 1: or at least did not make public. It eventually would

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Speaker 1: lead to his passing. He was beginning to have some

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Speaker 1: of the effects of this, and it was very, very complicated.

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Speaker 1: As I told you once. Head injuries are such that

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Speaker 1: when I had mine in nineteen eighty, I could remember

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Speaker 1: my father's name, Theodore, but could not, for the life

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Speaker 1: of me remember my middle name Theodore. That's how specific

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Speaker 1: a head injury can be. George was having trouble remembering

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Speaker 1: certain things but not others. President Clinton, let me tell

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Speaker 1: you about this young man. I met this young man

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Speaker 1: when he was fourteen was it fourteen or fifteen? And

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01:11:52,435 --> 01:11:54,875
Speaker 1: I said, how do you remember that? I remember those things?

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Speaker 1: At an open season ticket holder. His father and mother

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Speaker 1: were devoted Yankee fast Remember that throw the other year

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Speaker 1: that hit the fan, and that was his mother and

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Speaker 1: his mother came back the next day. What a great fan.

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Speaker 1: I love her, And on and on and on, and

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Speaker 1: stories about how you know right in this very box.

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Speaker 1: He came up. And when I tried to avoid a

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Speaker 1: press conference where I changed managers, he found me and

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Speaker 1: game me and did a great interview with great questions

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Speaker 1: about the philosophy of firing man Everything from nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: two rolled out as if it had happened the day

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Speaker 1: before yesterday, and this is two thousand and five, on

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Speaker 1: and on the story about the two thousand World Series

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Speaker 1: event my mom and the Chuck Knoblock throw that hit her,

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Speaker 1: other events. He once gave me advice on a trade,

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Speaker 1: and he did this, and he did that, and things

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01:12:42,195 --> 01:12:45,035
Speaker 1: I had completely forgotten, and every time he referred to me,

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01:12:45,035 --> 01:12:48,555
Speaker 1: he referred to me as this young man. And it

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01:12:48,595 --> 01:12:52,395
Speaker 1: became evident. And Bill Clinton is barely containing his laughter

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Speaker 1: at the folsomeness of George Steinbrenner's affection for me. Every

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01:12:59,915 --> 01:13:02,675
Speaker 1: time we go into another story, it becomes more and

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01:13:02,715 --> 01:13:05,515
Speaker 1: more apparent that for all the things that George remembers

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Speaker 1: about me, he can't summon my name, and it can't

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01:13:08,795 --> 01:13:11,835
Speaker 1: be because he doesn't remember it or know it. He's

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Speaker 1: telling stories about my mother, he's telling stories about me

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Speaker 1: as a teenager. I said, rookie TV reporter, he couldn't

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Speaker 1: remember my name the way I couldn't remember my middle

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Speaker 1: name right after I hit my head. It was tragic.

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Speaker 1: But after telling Bill Clinton twenty five minutes worth of

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Speaker 1: Keith Olberman stories, George Steinbrenner says, that's who this young

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Speaker 1: man is. And now he's in your field and you

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Speaker 1: get to deal with him. And Bill Clinton said, and

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Speaker 1: God bless him for saying this, and God blessed George

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Speaker 1: Steinbrenner wherever he is. Bill Clinton says, well, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: obvious that George, you really like this guy. I'd keep

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Speaker 1: my eye on you. Keith. The first time I really

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Speaker 1: knew George was a fan was when he interrupted my

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Speaker 1: sign off on a live shot for CNN outside Yankee

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Speaker 1: Stadium in the dark, in the freezing dark, in the

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Speaker 1: freezing dark, in the kind of dangerous Bronx of December sixteenth,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three. He had just appointed his latest new

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Speaker 1: Yankee manager, Yogi Bearra, and they were both out there

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Speaker 1: with me doing the live shot for CNN Sports. I'll

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Speaker 1: never know why, but there they were. And as I

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Speaker 1: thanked them and I threw it back to Atlanta, George

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Speaker 1: knocked my microphone back towards him. He didn't grab the

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Speaker 1: mic out of my hands, he just sort of pushed

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Speaker 1: it towards him so we'd all hear what he said.

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01:14:50,035 --> 01:14:52,995
Speaker 1: And what he said was sorry, Keith. First off, he

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Speaker 1: knew my name. Then secondly he stared into the camera

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Speaker 1: and said, hey, Ted Turner, stop trying to sign my

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Speaker 1: free agents. Thanks Keith, I still miss George. I've done

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Speaker 1: all the damage I can do here. Thank you for listening.

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Speaker 1: Three years of this. I think we're set to continue

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Speaker 1: on Monday. We'll find out as I recorded this, the

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01:15:16,715 --> 01:15:22,235
Speaker 1: deal is not done, but it's very close. And there

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Speaker 1: may be footprint enlargement which we will be able to

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Speaker 1: announce next week. Most of our Countdown music was arranged, produced,

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Speaker 1: and performed by Brian Ray and John Phillip Schanel, our

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Speaker 1: musical directors of Countdown. I'm jinxing it by doing that,

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Speaker 1: by saying that about footprints. Never mind when I said

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Speaker 1: about footprints. Just remember what I said about Christy Nome.

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Speaker 1: It was produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Ray on guitars,

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Speaker 1: bass and drums. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration on keyboards. Our

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Speaker 1: satirical and pithy musical comments are by the best baseball

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Speaker 1: stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. The Olderman theme from ESPN two,

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Speaker 1: written by Mitch Warren Davis, courtesy of ESPN, Inc. Is

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Speaker 1: our sports music. Other music arranged and performed the group

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Speaker 1: No Horns Allowed. My announswer today is my friend Larry David.

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Speaker 1: Everything else was, as always my fault. If you hear

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Speaker 1: a rasp in my voice Canadian wildfires. We're not saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: how dare you send Canadian wildfires to New York. We're

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Speaker 1: not saying, oh, look, it must be a real problem now.

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Speaker 1: We're just saying this is how bad it is. We

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Speaker 1: never had Canadian wildfire smoke in the air here, thousands

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Speaker 1: of miles away until recently. I wonder why that's changed.

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Speaker 1: Oh is that why they call it change? That's countdown

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Speaker 1: for today, Day one hundred and ninety three of America

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Speaker 1: held hostage, and just one two hundred and seventy eight

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Speaker 1: days until the scheduled end of Trump's lane duck and

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01:16:49,115 --> 01:16:54,035
Speaker 1: lame brained term unless he is removed sooner by MAGA

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Speaker 1: and Jeffrey Epstein and climate change. The next scheduled countdown

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Speaker 1: is Monday till then. I'm Keith Oldermman. Good morning, good afternoon,

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Speaker 1: good night, and good luck.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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Speaker 1: more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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