1 00:00:04,000 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to another new episode of Between 2 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: the Horns. It is June sixth, Wednesday, about one twenty 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 1: Pacific time here in sunny worried about Oaks, California. Why 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: are you worried? I'm worried about you today. I haven't 5 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: even said. I don't say you need training camp. You're 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,240 Speaker 1: a DeMarco fa. That's Miles Simmons. He needs training camp. 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:26,480 Speaker 1: He needs to hit somebody. Welcome back to the podcast. 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: Do I need to hit somebody? Hit somebod? What's going 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: on with you? What's happening going on? Yes, it's your 10 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: new diet, isn't it? Losing weight? You're starting to get 11 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: all buffed out now you I was off the diet 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 1: over the course of the weekend. Is that what it is? 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: Maybe you're guilty. No, I don't think so. I'm back 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: on it now, so maybe that's what it is. Okay, 15 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: all right, I'm feeling a little under the weather of 16 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 1: my throat. Remind me like a bodybuilder right before competition. 17 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: They always get crabby because they're diet. Yeah, they don't eat, 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: they don't they don't drink any waters as bad. I'm 19 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: just a crabby person in general, you were not a 20 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: crabby person. Something is going on anyway, what's going on? 21 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: A lot has been going on the field here. We 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: are now through nine of ten OTAs Mini Camp next 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 1: week and then obviously the Rams will get their summer break. 24 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,120 Speaker 1: The real off season period for the NFL, I think 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: is this six weeks. You know that they've got yeah, 26 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: end of Mini Camp and beginning of training camp next week. 27 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,840 Speaker 1: It has that word that we all hate as athletes, mandatory. 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: You have to be here. So that's that's really when 29 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: work begins. I guess. I mean that that could be 30 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,640 Speaker 1: you're considered your new year if you really want. I know, 31 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: there's a league year. But I mean when everything starts 32 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: to become mandatory and you have to be here, that's 33 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: really when you get to work, right. Yeah, vacation is over. 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 1: Vacation is over. But I mean you have those three 35 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: days and then you do get to go on vacation, 36 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 1: is I think kind of. I mean that's what I 37 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: love about Mini Camp. Are used to love about Mini Camp. 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: It was a great litmus test for you to see 39 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: where you are athletically. Yeah, you know, if you're in 40 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: shape and you can handle what they threat you at 41 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: mini camp, then you can take some vacations before a 42 00:01:54,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: training camp. If you're gassed at mini camp, you're working 43 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: until camp. That's just the way it goes, right, And 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: that's something that Sean McVay kind of said, you know 45 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: that the mini camp is a time that they can 46 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: sort of mimic what a training camp day might be 47 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: like a little bit because they're gonna have to walk 48 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: through in the morning and then you'll be able to 49 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 1: go through practice later on in the afternoon. And so 50 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: I think what you said about it being a litmus 51 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: tess is exactly right. And as you know, yeah, you 52 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: have to coordinate schedules at home too. I mean you 53 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: get a little bit of what it's going to be 54 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: like in training camp, as in, I'm not going to 55 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: be here, yeah, yeah, most of my days are going 56 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: to be spent out here. Yes, And when you do 57 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: see me, it's gonna be faced down on the bed. 58 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be asleep, I'm gonna be tired. So that's 59 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:36,959 Speaker 1: just the way it is. I'm glad you have a 60 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: chance to at least get acclimated before you go into training. 61 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:42,399 Speaker 1: I love mini camps. I love OTAs. This is where 62 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: the real work begins. To me if you ask me, 63 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: all right, so what are your impressions so far from 64 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: the practices you've seen those of these guys, you know, 65 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean, we're still looking at the key areas. I think, 66 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: like on defense, I think where you're going to be exceptional, 67 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: out at corner in the middle. I think those guys 68 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: are going to be exceptional. We're still trying to figure 69 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 1: out around that. Offensively, I think the biggest thing is 70 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: you're taking a step forward with an offense that you 71 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: already know, so you're perfecting and adding. So whatever plays, 72 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: however many plays you know you can guarantee or that 73 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: is a guarantee come game day, plus you can add more. 74 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: So that's how offenses go from you know, point A 75 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:18,519 Speaker 1: to point B. And I was just telling Tory Holt, 76 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: who's here, my whole teammate when we won the Super Bowl, 77 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: when our offense, the greatest show on turf, took flight, 78 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: we didn't give the NFL an off season to catch up. 79 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 1: We finished you off that year. So there's gonna be 80 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of coming back to earth for the 81 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 1: offense because everyone has a chance to see what you're about. 82 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: An entire offseason, but you also have a chance to 83 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: improve a proof upon what you've done. So that's what 84 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: I see. I see an offense that's improving, ever improving, 85 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: and just getting better at the little things, right. Yeah, 86 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think we have had a chance 87 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: to do a podcast since OTAs began. Yeah, but I 88 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: remember we were out here day one and I remember 89 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 1: turning to you and being like, this offense does not 90 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: look like it's day one of OTAs, you know what 91 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 1: I mean, And that I think has made a significant 92 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: difference just because it wasn't day one for this offense 93 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 1: going in. I mean, look, this is really one of 94 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: the first times since I've been covering this team that 95 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 1: the same offensive coordinator is. It actually is the first 96 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: time it is, and I think about it. Yeah, at 97 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: the same offensive name him Brian Schottenheimer, Satig Rob Boris, 98 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: Sean McVay. Now the last two seasons. Wow, so yes, yes, 99 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 1: the first time that the same offensive coordinator or offensive 100 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: play caller has been the same for the mini camp 101 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: in two straight years. You're Alex Smith. You are Alex Smith. Yeah, 102 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: You've been through several coordinators now all there's some continuity. 103 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,919 Speaker 1: So right. Yeah. That Look, it's it's not hard to 104 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: get better as a football team. Um continuity is one 105 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: of them. But that's the one thing as players and 106 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: coaches you can't control, right Yeah. I mean the only 107 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: way you can control it by is by doing what 108 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: they did last season. Eleven wins, make it, make the playoffs, 109 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: win the division. That's how you guarantee some contin I mean, 110 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 1: this league is all about change. You know that, it is, 111 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: absolutely and there has been some change, especially on defense. 112 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: But if you just look at that offense, and this 113 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 1: is what players have been talking about the last couple 114 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: of weeks. You know, after we saw that things look 115 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: sharp on day one, they still look sharp on day two. 116 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: And as they've been going through it, it has continued. 117 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: They've basically been saying, look, that's what we wanted. We 118 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: wanted to be able to come back to the field 119 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: and make it look like we really hadn't missed a beat. 120 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: And so over the course of the off season, you 121 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: had Jared Goff getting guys together, you know, down here 122 00:05:32,160 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: in southern California, and this is a place where people 123 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: want to stay for the off season. So that's what 124 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: Cooper Cup was saying. Look, like they were practicing. They 125 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 1: were going to a high school maybe two to three 126 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: times a week sometimes and just throwing outstay gating routes. Done. 127 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: And then Brandon Cooks got incorporated into that as well 128 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: once he was here, and that trade happened at the 129 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 1: beginning of April. And I think those kinds of things, 130 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 1: those little things, they're making a big difference. Now everybody's 131 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 1: been seeing it on Twitter. I'm sure to get Jared 132 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: Goff to Brandon Cooks on the field all the time. 133 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: You know, I was gonna say this, man, you know 134 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: how shocked we are when Aaron Donald makes a play 135 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: in a football game. We're not We're not shocked. We'll 136 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: get ready for that with Cooks. Yeah yeah, I mean 137 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,279 Speaker 1: when I see on Twitter these videos of Brandon Cooks 138 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: going deep catching touchdowns in practice, We'll get used to that. 139 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:25,480 Speaker 1: The guy is that good. When they were talking about 140 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: it was between Cooks and the other guy in New 141 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: York with the blonde hair. Yes, we had this discussion. 142 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: If you had to pick one or the other, I said, 143 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: one is slightly more recoverable than the other, slightly, but 144 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: they're both dynamic. They both can get open. I think 145 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: you're you're starting to see that now. He is so fast, 146 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 1: so quick, and so polished a pretty much everything he does. 147 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: There's no way he can't help this offense. Absolutely, and 148 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 1: I I've been riding excuse me, I'm writing about it. 149 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: Told you, man, you need to eat. I don't know 150 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: what it is, man, I think or something back there. 151 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: My throat is kind of scratched, my goodness, and I 152 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 1: think it is and I'm just kind of off my 153 00:07:00,720 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 1: game protein shake I was. So maybe this has something 154 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: to do with that you. I was at the Room 155 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: five concert last night. Ye were you on stage? No? 156 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: But I will say this. The lady in front of 157 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: me turned around because I know all the words to 158 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 1: every Room five songs. So you were singing with Adam. 159 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,840 Speaker 1: You can't do that at a concert. Well, the lady 160 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: in front of me told me I have a really 161 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: nice singing voice. So that's that's her way of saying, 162 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: please pipe down. I want I want to hear Adam saying, 163 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: don't that guy? I am always that guy. Were you 164 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: were in a Maroon five T shirt? Too? I don't 165 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: have any Morooon five T shirt? That's that's that's a plus. Yeah, 166 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: that's good. Yeah, I think you were singing too loud. 167 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: I probably was. How was the show? The show was 168 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 1: pretty good? Yeah, pretty good. So I saw Maroon five 169 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: as we have totally derailed this. That's all right, Yeah 170 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: we'll get We'll get back to football, I promise. Yes. 171 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: I saw Room five last year at the Dodgers Diamond Blue. Yeah, galla, 172 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: whatever they have they better then. Yes. They played all 173 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 1: the real hits at that show where they play last night. 174 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: Last night they played so I like the Room five 175 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 1: songs that accentuate the bad and okay, right, like that's 176 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: a really good band. But they played the songs like 177 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: Cold Don't Want to Know, which are basically kind of 178 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: like almost something you could have made on your keyboard 179 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: that you had when you're a little kid, Okay, And 180 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: like Adam Levine I think is one of the best 181 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: singing voices of any male vocalist that's out right now. 182 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 1: And like when he's got to overcompensate for the fact 183 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: that the band isn't really playing. That to me is 184 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 1: when the band seems off. Okay, all right, But I 185 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 1: love Maroon five, like it's one of my favorite bands, 186 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: and so yeah, that's cool. On the show, if you're fans, 187 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: you can say it was pretty good. You've seen them before, 188 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: all right, that's fair worth going to. Yeah, I don't 189 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: know about like made on a keyboard though, that's kind 190 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,079 Speaker 1: of consulting. It was probably a little. I would say, 191 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: I'm sorry to them. I'm sorry because they're a lot. 192 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: They're they're around here somewhere. Weren't they just at the forum? Yeah, 193 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't think they've left the state. They are from 194 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: LA too, so they could be RAMS fans. Who knows 195 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: if right here anyway? Um, but yes, the offense, the 196 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: RAMS says, I think has taken some good strides, some 197 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 1: significant strides. And actually one thing that I really thought 198 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: was interesting, Um, Serena Morale us are a new team. 199 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: Reporter and Cooper Cup, we're just sitting in these chairs. 200 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: And one thing Serena as Cup about was Jared Goff's 201 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 1: growth as a leader, growth in development on and off 202 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the field. And what Cooper Cup was saying was, you know, 203 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: people keep talking about, oh, you see Jared growing as 204 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: a leader, you see this, you see that, And Cup said, 205 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, we need us just start calling it what 206 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: it is. Jared Goff is the leader of this offense. 207 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: And I think that coming from him is pretty significant, 208 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: big time man. I mean that to me is when 209 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: you're really clicking on all cylinders. When your quarterback is 210 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: the guy, is the guy everybody looks to, everybody, the 211 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: guy that everyone wants to be, and he works harder 212 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 1: than anyone. He's here early and he leaves late. When 213 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: you have that sort of guy at quarterback, now it 214 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: can be done the other way. It can be done 215 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: with a guy that leaves early or is not the 216 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: best practice player. It can be. I mean, I would 217 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,480 Speaker 1: say not the best practice player. But if you're not 218 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: a quarterback that puts in all the time in the world, 219 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: ye needs to be. I don't know how you can 220 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: be successful in this league. Well, some guys just don't 221 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:05,679 Speaker 1: have that ability, okay, but the rest of the team 222 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:07,680 Speaker 1: is just great and all he does is just not 223 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: mess it up fair. But when your guy is great, 224 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: a pro bowler, and he's out working everybody on the 225 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 1: football team and he is that guy and the leader, 226 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: that to me is what everybody wants in the national 227 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: football That's to me is what every football team wants, 228 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: regardless of level. Right. Well, that's why you go up 229 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 1: and you draft this guy number one overall, so because 230 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: you see that kind of potential in him, right and now, 231 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: I think having taken the strides where you go twenty 232 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:35,400 Speaker 1: eight touchdowns, seven interceptions last season, you lead your team 233 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: to an eleven and four record in the regular season 234 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: and a division title. Now, whatever that next step is 235 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: for Jared Goff, it absolutely should be Okay. He is 236 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: a leader of this team. And to hear Cooper Cups 237 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: say that, I think, especially after you know the way 238 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 1: things have gone for Jared Goff up to this point 239 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: in his career, going all the way back to twenty sixteen, 240 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: that's significant to me big time. Yeah. I mean I think, look, 241 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:00,680 Speaker 1: he has a chance to be special, a lot of potential. 242 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: There a lot of room to grow. That's why he 243 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: was drafted where where he was drafted. And I think 244 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: you're starting to see him. What you saw last season 245 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: was him taking a step forward. Now there's more there. 246 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: And this goes back to what we were talking about, 247 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: when you have someone at quarterback that has a chance 248 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: to be special, not just a guy. If some people 249 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: some quarterbacks, if they're playing about as well as they 250 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: can play, they're just going to be average. Does that 251 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,959 Speaker 1: make sense. Yes, yes, that's just the way God meant, 252 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: That's just the way God made them. But I mean 253 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 1: with guys like Golf, I mean, this guy is the limit. 254 00:11:29,679 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: And if you keep putting good teams around them, and 255 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 1: he's a leader and he keeps getting better, I mean 256 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 1: you're talking about being one of the elite quarterbacks and 257 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:38,679 Speaker 1: one of the elite teams. Well not you don't only 258 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: have that, but you also have a great coaching staff 259 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,559 Speaker 1: around him in place. I think, say you don't have 260 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: a choice, right exactly, Sean McVay we all know, is 261 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: one of the best offensive brightened minds football right now. 262 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: And then I think you also have continuity and the 263 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: fact that you know, going into this season, basically you're 264 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 1: going to have one new starter as it stands right 265 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: now on offense in the entire unit, right, and that 266 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 1: I like the sub and I like the sub. Yes, yeah, 267 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I think you can say you arguably 268 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: got better at that position, right. I mean I don't 269 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: mean that as an I don't know what Sammy's gonna do. 270 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: He might turn it out, but I mean they both 271 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: both have ability. But if I could pick between the two, 272 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: I'd probably pick Cooks first, well, right, and I think, 273 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: and I don't mean that as a knock on Sammy 274 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,680 Speaker 1: Watkins and his ability, but I think just from the 275 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: standpoint of Brandon Cooks is a guy that's had at 276 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: least a thousand yards and at least seven touchdowns receiving 277 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: in the last three seasons. That's Malcolm Brown. By the way, 278 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 1: I'm Malcolm's I just had to say, I interrupt the podcast. 279 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: You can't walk by with food not offer man. Sorry 280 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: about that. I just saw food. This is what happens 281 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: when we're outside and Marco is just gonna get distracted. 282 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: But I just say he had a big, big piece 283 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: of meat on a fork and didn't offer me any man. 284 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: That's not cool. I thought you were eating meet me. Well, 285 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: I mean he could at least offer let me, let 286 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: me at least say no. One other position that I 287 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: do want to go over a little bit on offense 288 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 1: is the tight end. Yeah, because I'm intrigued. I am too. Yeah. 289 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: One of the things McVeigh has continued to talk about 290 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 1: over the course of the off season is that they 291 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: want to get more out of that position, and to 292 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,000 Speaker 1: do it, they want to go into different personnel groupings. 293 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: A little bit, and we've seen some of that out 294 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,960 Speaker 1: on the field during OTAs a little bit more twelve personnel. 295 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: What's one running back, two tight ends? And that's the 296 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 1: worst offense for a defense. Why two tight ends because 297 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: it's balanced. I don't know which way you're going until 298 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: the ball is snapped, until the ball is gone, and 299 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: when you got a running back like Todd Gurley, you lost, right. Yeah, 300 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: So if you can run and be effective out of twelve, 301 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean when you get a lead, that's what you 302 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: want to go into. When you have a lead in 303 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: the football game, you want to go into twelve and 304 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: just pound them right, absolutely pound them because you'll be 305 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: a step ahead. But anyway, I'm sorry, No, I think 306 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: that's you're going to basically the point that I want 307 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: to make, Like, look, they want to be able to 308 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: get more out of that, and that means they want 309 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: to get more of the tight ends, true, so that 310 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: you can definitely play two of them at the same time. 311 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: Do you remember the old running shoot offense way back 312 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: when when it took over the league and a lot 313 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: of teams went to that, like a lot of college 314 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: teams go to the spread, right. The problem with the 315 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 1: spread right now is when you have the lead, you 316 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: can't get out of spread. That's all you do well 317 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 1: in the pros. It'd be nice you have these high 318 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: flying offenses, but when you do have the lead and 319 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: the clock is not your friend and you want to 320 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: salt the game away, you need to be able to 321 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: play football out of twelve personnel yea, and be effective 322 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: out of twelve. With the exception of a few teams 323 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: with great quarterbacks, most of those playoff teams play really 324 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: well out of twelve personnel. Yeah, and you may not 325 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 1: have stars at tight end, but you have credible guys 326 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 1: that can block and catch well. I just think about 327 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: the Patriots and what they were able to do with 328 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: Bennett and Gronk, you know, being on two different sides, 329 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: and that that was sort of the idea with that, 330 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 1: and then Gronk got hurt, and right, the Patriots have 331 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: two tight ends that are very very effective. You're they're 332 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 1: doing exactly what you're talking about. Then they can salt 333 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 1: the game away. Absolutely, that kind of bound and where 334 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: are you out Absolutely put the pressure back on the 335 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: other side, and they have a quarterback that's not going 336 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 1: to make a mistake. So I think the same mold, 337 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: The same model can work here, except you have a 338 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: special running back that can also you know, pound the 339 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: daylights out of you. So it's the same philosophy with 340 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 1: just you know, a little more emphasis at a different spot. Right. 341 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: What's interesting to me about this offense too, is that 342 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: there has been so much talk about Brandon Cooks and 343 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: what he adds as a receiver. And then I don't 344 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 1: want to like speak too far out of turn, but 345 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 1: I really do feel like with Cooks with Woods, with Cup, 346 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: if they all stay healthy, that could be one of 347 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: the most dynamic trios of wide receivers in the league. 348 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm still trying to figure out how you cover it. 349 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: And I know we had a lot of fun with 350 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: Sue and Donald and how you block it, and I 351 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: still haven't come up with a way to block those 352 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 1: two guys, Michael plus Brockers. But just in the middle, 353 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: when you've got those two flanking the center, which way 354 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: do you send that guy? You've got issues same thing 355 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: with this receiving core. I mean, Woods is smooth, per 356 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: Cup is letter perfect, and routes and Brandon Cooks can 357 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: out run just about anybody. Yeah, so you've got your 358 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: choice and a quarterback that can get the ball there, 359 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: and an evil genius in Sean McVay that can design 360 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: plays right. It could be just as dynamic as those 361 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: two guys in the middle. Yes, just as much of 362 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 1: a nightmare as those two guys, especially because you have 363 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 1: the dynamic running back in Todd Gurley, who it's almost 364 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: like in some ways he gets lost in all of 365 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: this scary because there's so much else that's gone on 366 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,160 Speaker 1: with this team. I mean, Todd Gurley had an argument 367 00:16:32,200 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: to be the MVP of the league last year, and 368 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 1: so when you add somebody with proven production like a 369 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks to this offense, man, you see, Look, Todd 370 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: Gurley can take even more steps big time in this 371 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: next I think that it talks to you and twelve 372 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: personnel because there'll be a time probably coming up this 373 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: season very shortly where he won't disappear or won't get hidden. 374 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 1: Because once you do have a lead, you feature Todd 375 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: out of twelve and you wear them out. And it's 376 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 1: not just wearing them out. He can actually score from anywhere. 377 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: Yes he can. Yeah. So I mean what you're building 378 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 1: here is, if you keep going in the right direction, 379 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:11,040 Speaker 1: you're building one of the elite offenses in the National 380 00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 1: Football And that's funny when you talk about what is 381 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 1: also on the other side of the bowl. Yes. Yeah, 382 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 1: So as long as Jared Goff continues to grow and 383 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: they continue to push the envelope here in practice and 384 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: in the locker room, gelling together training camp is going 385 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,400 Speaker 1: to be a breeze, and then you're right into preseason. 386 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: It should be. Um, you brought this up earlier, Tory Hold. 387 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,199 Speaker 1: Your old team is around the game, and I know 388 00:17:35,240 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: you guys had a chance to kind of talk during practice. 389 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: I don't want to get into too personal whatever. Don't worry, 390 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: I won't. I know. Yeah, but I'm a good teammate. 391 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: I know, But what have been his impressions of just 392 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: being out here? You know, the first guy he mentioned 393 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 1: was actually Josh Reynolds, and I'm glad he mentioned Um. 394 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: And he's a kid that has so much room for growth, 395 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,480 Speaker 1: kind of like Jared Goff. There's so much more there. 396 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just barely scratching the surface. Now, he 397 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: didn't make the Pro Bowl. Golf did, but I think 398 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:04,879 Speaker 1: we saw enough of Gerald Reynolds Josh Reynolds to say 399 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: we want to see more Now, where is he fit 400 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:10,240 Speaker 1: in the offense, I don't know, But as far as potential, wow, 401 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot there. Now, that's what Tori just that's 402 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: what we were talking about when you walked over. Tori's 403 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: game wasn't flashy. It was very consistent and very fundamentally sound. Now, 404 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: if you can get a guy like Josh Reynolds there 405 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: to where you're just consistent, consistent, and then when you 406 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: have a chance to actually take a game over, you 407 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: can do it because you have that ability. But you 408 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,439 Speaker 1: have to remain viable for four quarters. There has to 409 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,320 Speaker 1: be a spot for you on the field at all times. 410 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: Like a Larry Fitzgerald. Everything he does there's no wasted 411 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: motion and he's viable from the ten out to ten 412 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: end everywhere on the field. So if you can get 413 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: a guy like Reynolds there, you've got something special. But 414 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: the other guy loves, yes, he loves I mean Brandon Cooks. 415 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: The speed coming out of the breaks, the catching, the attention, 416 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: the detailed that stuff catches Tori's eye. And when it 417 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: catches his eye, of course he's going to filter that 418 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: down to me. Yes, yeah, well that's good. It's interesting 419 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: what you said about Reynolds. So our Chris and Lago 420 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: also had a chance to talk to Josh Reynolds today 421 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:08,719 Speaker 1: and she told me that what he was saying is 422 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: that he wants to prove that, you know, even though 423 00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:13,640 Speaker 1: he's got the size, you know, the six foot three frame, 424 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 1: that's what everybody's gonna talk about when they see him 425 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: because you think of him as probably that red zone threat, right, 426 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: but he wants to prove that he's more than that. 427 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:25,160 Speaker 1: And I think he has that kind of skill set. 428 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: What is going to be interesting is how does he 429 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: get on the field to show it, you know, when 430 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: and how well? I mean, because he's like I said, 431 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 1: I mean, look, you've got Brandon Cooks, you've got Robert Woods, 432 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:38,919 Speaker 1: you've got Cooper Cup. That's your top three and it 433 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: should be. Yeah, there's gonna be reps out there. I mean, 434 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: no one can play every single rep, right, He's gonna 435 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 1: have an opportunity. And the first thing you said was 436 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: if everyone stays healthy, yes, yeah, there's gonna be opportunities. 437 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: But I mean, when you get those opportunities, it's not 438 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: just about being a red zone guy or a deep 439 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: through a guy. You've got to be in everything exactly. Yeah, 440 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,720 Speaker 1: do what they ask you to do when they ask 441 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: you to do it. There is no no coming from 442 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds, right yeah, I need you to do this, absolutely, 443 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: I need you to do that, sure, coach. That's just 444 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 1: the way it goes. It's interesting to me right now 445 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: the Rams are seeming pretty settled at wide receiver, just 446 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 1: when you kind of look up and down that roster. Yes, 447 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: of course, anybody if there's competition, especially once there gets 448 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: to be pads on, then somebody's gonna have a chance 449 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 1: to break into that. But right now it seems like 450 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: the Rams are pretty settled into having Woods, Cooks, Cup Reynolds, Cooper, 451 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 1: Mike Thomas, you're tight end. Excuse me, you're tight end. 452 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: Well you're gonna have more than one. Gerald Everett, Tyler 453 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: Higbee to Mark Hemingway, that's the guy I can't wait 454 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 1: to see. I can't wait to see you. Yeah, yeah, 455 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 1: I had a game. I spoke to him yesterday and 456 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: wrote a story on him. It's on the rams dot 457 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: com now. He is such an intriguing prospect to me 458 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: because of the size, right you know, speed, ye, speed 459 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,240 Speaker 1: and all of that. He's a guy that I remember 460 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: Sean mcvay's talking about sort of in that in the 461 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 1: Ota stages, in the trade camp stages, are saying like, hey, 462 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 1: we got plans for this guy, yes, and then the 463 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:11,880 Speaker 1: unfortunate injury happens. You know. He told me like when 464 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: he when he got hurt against the Chargers in that 465 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: third preseason game, and I went back and watched it. 466 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: That's pretty grizzly looking things. It'll turn your stomach. Yeah, 467 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: you got rolled up on. Let's not go yet. Well, 468 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: I mean he said he heard a crack and the 469 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: only thing that he was thinking, I could hear the crack. Well, 470 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 1: you were on the side, that's not But he said, 471 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:31,439 Speaker 1: you know, I'm thinking, man, I hope this is not 472 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: a career ending injury. Wow. And so what he was 473 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: saying is that, you know, it gave him a different 474 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: perspective having to sit on the sidelines, having to watch 475 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: games on television of a you know how much the 476 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,600 Speaker 1: game means to him and be it's just when you 477 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: get to sit and watch and you're not in it 478 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: like that at the time, you start to see things 479 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 1: a little bit differently, just as a football player. So yeah, 480 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: now he really is looking forward to bringing that kind 481 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,719 Speaker 1: of stuff to the field. I don't think there's anything 482 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: worse in sports than being like on ir on a 483 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: football team, because it's like you don't exist anymore. Yeah, 484 00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,440 Speaker 1: you see the trainers, they love you, but everyone else 485 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 1: is busy, right, yeah, absolutely. You know, Um, what did 486 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas right in the MMQB. I think it was 487 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,640 Speaker 1: the drill? Move the drill. Yeah, yeah, that's what Happens's 488 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: move it up ten yards when you get hurt. That's 489 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: that's just the way it is. But I can't wait. 490 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 1: It's like with him, with a guy that big at 491 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: that position, it's your football coach, your offensive coordinator becomes 492 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 1: a basketball coach. You can go big, you can go small, right, 493 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: you can change up. I mean, I can't wait to 494 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: see the different personnel groups with that guy on the 495 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: field cover that. Okay, you've got coops, you got you 496 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 1: got Brandon Cooks out there. You've got let's say Cooper 497 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 1: cup and then him right okay, and Todd Gurley in 498 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: the backfield cover that and a passing down right right right, 499 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: yeah right. There's there's just a lot more for the 500 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: defense to have to worry about. Not only is it 501 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: scheme now it's size that you have to worry about. 502 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 1: So that guy that ability. Yeah, I was really sad 503 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: for him when you got hurt. Sad for the football 504 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: team too. Well. I think there's another injury we should 505 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 1: bring up, speaking of the season ending injuries, and that's 506 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: Morgan Fox and this one, Like, yeah, I'm blaming you 507 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: for that. Well because the last time we did a podcast, 508 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: he was a guy we were talking about up Remember 509 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:14,560 Speaker 1: when I had you go bang on Wood? Remember, Oh, 510 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: yeah that was that. That was the same day, Miles 511 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: that that was the same day. I'm blaming you. Wow. Yes, see, 512 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: don't put that out there in the universe, right, Yeah, 513 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: they're listening anyway, Morgan Fox. But yeah, I think it's 514 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,360 Speaker 1: especially unfortunate because you know, right now, he had been 515 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: lining up with the ones at outside linebacker and he 516 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: was starting, he was flashing, and he's a guy that 517 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: since we started seeing him as an undrafted rookie back 518 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,760 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, yea, even think about that Minnesota preseason 519 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: game where he had what three sacks in the first half, 520 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: You've known that he's got some kind of potential. And 521 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: I think moving him to outside linebacker opposite somebody like 522 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:55,159 Speaker 1: Samson abucom and we're playing with guys like Brockers, Donald Sue. 523 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 1: It'll make you better, Yes, yeah, it'll make you better. 524 00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: And so no, it's just it's just one of those 525 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,200 Speaker 1: where you're like, man, gosh, Darnett And I remember talking 526 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: to him when he first came to the football team, 527 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: watching him work, and he didn't really ask me, but 528 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: he asked me, like, what's the difference between me and 529 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 1: everyone else in the league? And all I said was reps. 530 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: All you need is reps. You need to be at 531 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: one spot and just keep repping it. I mean, you've 532 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: got the passion, you want to be good. That's half 533 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: of That's half of it there. All you need is reps, 534 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: end time, and eventually you're going to be a guy 535 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 1: in this league. And sure enough, he had a chance 536 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: to be a guy. But that's just the way it goes. 537 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,760 Speaker 1: So now you've got to find another one. Yep. Yeah, 538 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 1: you have to get somebody else ready to go. That's 539 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: just Look, that could have happened in September, right, Yeah, 540 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: it was gonna happen. I'm glad it happened now, right, 541 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,120 Speaker 1: because that means you do have a little bit more 542 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: time at least to get somebody ready right now. That 543 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: guy is Justin Lawler, seventh round pick out of SMU, 544 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 1: And it's interesting because he's a guy that also has 545 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: flashed a little bit, especially when he's gone back and 546 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: kind of dropped back into coverage. He has a nose 547 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 1: to kind of get his hands on the football. So 548 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 1: it's not like it's just somebody in practice that you know, 549 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: the offense can say, oh, that guy right, we got him, 550 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: Like that's not the case. So I think that's kind 551 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 1: of a good sign maybe going into things a little bit, 552 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: just knowing where to be, knowing what's in front of you. 553 00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,639 Speaker 1: And look, the coaching staff does a great job. And 554 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: remember Wade Phillips is also running this defense. So as 555 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: much credit as we give Sean McGray for the offense, 556 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,479 Speaker 1: give Wade Phillips just as much credit for the defense. 557 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 1: So he can get guys ready to play. Now, whether 558 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: you're special or not, I mean, that's that's up to God, 559 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: like we said, but as far as being an effective 560 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: player in this defense lining up at outside backer, I'm 561 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: sure he can get him ready to play, yes, yeah, 562 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 1: and be effective and drop to the right areas and 563 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: break on the football and pursuit because look, your first 564 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: two steps are going to be for the defense, and 565 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: then you get just gotta go play ball. You gotta 566 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: go find it, get through blocks, and get the guy 567 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: on the ground. I love that saying that you could 568 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: you bring that up a lot. First two steps are 569 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 1: for the defense, and then it's just reacting. It's fine ball, seatball, 570 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 1: get ball, do whatever you gotta do. You gotta beat 571 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: somebody at some point in this league to make a 572 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: play on defense. Rarely are you going to be free 573 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 1: to the football. So first you have to execute the 574 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: defense that's called or you'll put the defense what do 575 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: we call that, You'll you'll violate the integrity of the 576 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 1: defense and then they win. Right, So your first two 577 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: steps are for the defense, and then after that go 578 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: find the ball. Right. If you can get it and 579 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 1: bring it back to our side, great, Yes, if you 580 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: can get it on the ground, that's job number one, right, Yeah, 581 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: especially as speaking excuse me of outside linebacker. Sam'son abucom 582 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: now is a guy that has kind of flips sides. 583 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: Last year he was kind of backing up Connor Barwin 584 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: Sam Sam spot. Now he's playing more will back basically 585 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 1: where Robert Quinn was. So I talked to him last week, 586 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: and what you're saying is they likes it a little 587 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: bit better, maybe playing at Will because he gets to 588 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 1: rush the pastor a little bit more, and I think 589 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: that's one of his strengths. So he's another guy that 590 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing kind of on this year 591 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 1: because I think he can take a real significant step forward. 592 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: It's fun. I know some guys that played professional baseball 593 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: on the in the American League side where they have 594 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: the DH. Yeah, right, everybody wants to be a d 595 00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: H until you're the DH because now you gotta hit. 596 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. Now you have to hit, 597 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: You have to produce. Have one job. You have one job. 598 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: Well will When you're rushing the passer, it's great. I 599 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: mean they're gonna protect you on the run. Some you're 600 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: in that spot because you have a unique ability to 601 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: get to the passer, but when it is an obvious 602 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 1: passing down they're expecting you to be there. You gotta win. 603 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,960 Speaker 1: You gotta win that rush. So it's one thing to 604 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: win the job. Now you gotta go out there and 605 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: win year one on ones. Well, again, I think and 606 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna have a lot of them. With the other 607 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: two guys in the middle, three guys in the you're 608 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:31,320 Speaker 1: gonna have a ton of them. You are going to 609 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: have those opportunities to win those one on ones when 610 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: you get out there because of the guys you're playing with. Look, 611 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you can't just say that Donald, Brockers and 612 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: Sue are just like guys. Right now, there's some somebody's 613 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,640 Speaker 1: gonna be left in the one on one situation, and 614 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: that in theory would be Samson Abucom because he has 615 00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:53,040 Speaker 1: the least amount of experience and because he has the 616 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: least amount of set, You're gonna have to prove it. Yeah, 617 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean, like the other way, every other football team 618 00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: is going to say, well, we're paying our left tackle 619 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: a lot of money to block guys like you. Yes, 620 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: until you prove that you're more than just a guy, right, Yeah, 621 00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, look, Aaron Donald started from somewhere and Dominican 622 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,199 Speaker 1: Sue had to start from somewhere. And you build your resume, 623 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: so the more reps you get, the more wins you have, 624 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 1: the more that's going to change. But you would think 625 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: from the outset you're going to be the guy they 626 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: single up. Yeah, I mean looking at inside lineback or 627 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,639 Speaker 1: were you surprised to learn that Corey Littleton was is 628 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: right now the signal call? No? When when going back 629 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: to when alac Ogiltree was traded, um, you start to 630 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,159 Speaker 1: look at what's left and you think, who's gonna be 631 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: the middle, who's gonna call the signals, who's gonna be 632 00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 1: that guy, what's either gonna be Baron or him right? 633 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 1: Or who else is gonna be Bryce Hagar is going 634 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: to have a say? And who lines up in the middle. 635 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: But one of those three guys is going to have 636 00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: to be your true inside captain of the defense, quarterback 637 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: of the defense type guy. So Corey Littleton's the guy 638 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,479 Speaker 1: that had a fantastic year when they line him up 639 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: on defense, made play special teams, he was all over 640 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: the place, so he earned the right to become a starter. 641 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: I don't know if he's gonna wind up being that guy, 642 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: but I'm sure he's gonna put his best foot forward. 643 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: He said. He's been working on it, and one of 644 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 1: the things that's been interesting for him is just getting 645 00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:15,960 Speaker 1: to the point where he's more and more comfortable at 646 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,680 Speaker 1: speaking and like telling the defense to everybody see that 647 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: he's a quiet guy by nature. To see that's part 648 00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,760 Speaker 1: of it. And we have these discussions about athletes all 649 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: the time. Quarterbacks the same way. They're just quiet. They're 650 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: not guys that are vocal. And you may slide in 651 00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: the draft because of that, or guys may rise in 652 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: the draft because they are vocal. But I mean, you 653 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: need to be an effective communicator. That is part of 654 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: your job. Yes, yes, you're gonna have to come out 655 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: of that shell at some point. Yes, some guys don't 656 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: like it. They just want to get the information and 657 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: read and react. Well, now it's a little bit different. 658 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to be the chess player as well 659 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:52,920 Speaker 1: as the piece, right, Yeah, you're gonna have to move 660 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: people around and know more than just your position. You're 661 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: gonna have to know everything. That's that's a big underta 662 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 1: or a young guy. Well, it's a big job. But 663 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 1: I and especially considering the fact that it's not something 664 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: that he's ever really done before, you know, you were 665 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: saying in college basically served as a defensive end, comes 666 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: into the league kind of as an outside linebacker type, 667 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: and then does really really will on special teams. But 668 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: we don't really see him much on defense until last 669 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 1: year where he's playing kind of that second inside linebacker 670 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: role as a back up to Mark Barron. Right now, 671 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 1: being at that spot versus being at Mike is a 672 00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: little bit different, especially because of the entire you gotta 673 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 1: call the entire defense right well, I mean when we 674 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: were having these fun discussions when we heard that Sue 675 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 1: was coming to the town and how great this and 676 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: the corners Peterson to leave when they were coming to 677 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 1: the town, and how great this defense can be. And 678 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: then someone asked, Okay, what could keep this defense from 679 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: becoming great? My first thought was communication. If you start 680 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: having breakdowns all over the field, it doesn't matter who 681 00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: you have right. If you can't get it, you know, 682 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,560 Speaker 1: a caller on adjustment adjusted all the way down the defense, 683 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,600 Speaker 1: then it does not matter. We're gonna keep moving the 684 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: ball on you. So that's a key spot. I mean, 685 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: that's that's no small matter. That's a big deal. Notice, 686 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 1: if you're turning over play calling duties and you know, 687 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: trusting the the the integrity of the defense to one guy, 688 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: he's got to be able to do it. If not, 689 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: you're gonna have eleven guys doing eleven different things. Right 690 00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: when we brought up the corners, Let's talk a little 691 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: bit about the secondary too, because I think it's hard 692 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: not to be impressed at least just with the way 693 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: those guys look on the field, even though they're not 694 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: doing one on ones, they're not going in pads. They 695 00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: look like pros. And yeah, that all four of them 696 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 1: that would be starters in the secondary peters to leave 697 00:31:39,080 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: John Johnson and LaMarcus Joyner. You know, I'm I'm going 698 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: back and I'm trying to remember when I've seen, you know, 699 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: two great corners. I mean, well, I mean when you 700 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: had Generas here and you had Tremaine Johnson. I mean 701 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: Tremaine was still on the rise then, so it wasn't 702 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: really two great corners. They turned into two really good 703 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: corners at different times. But I haven't seen two great 704 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:04,640 Speaker 1: corners on this one football team in a long time. 705 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: You know. Um. It used to be, well, you have 706 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: this guy, you can pick on the other one. I 707 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: don't know who you pick on. Yeah, I don't know. 708 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: I don't know who you go after. I really don't. 709 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't know who you go after. And with what route? Right? Yeah? 710 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: What what route? Can't they cover, I don't aren't they 711 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 1: good at well? Not only that, but the thing you 712 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: have depth behind them too. I think that's the other things. 713 00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 1: A Nickel corner is one of the best in the league. Yeah, 714 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 1: doing had a great year, tremendous year. Yeah, it was funny, 715 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: um and I hope it would mind me sharing this, 716 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,360 Speaker 1: Like one of the days of OTAs was one of 717 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: the early ones. And I think Sean McVay call like 718 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: some kind of screenplayer, right, and so Nickel robe Coleman's 719 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: lined up in the slot and obviously you're not tackling 720 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,280 Speaker 1: or anything, but Nickel Roby Coleman got to the spot 721 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 1: exactly when he needed you and exactly when you would 722 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: expect him to based on the way he played last year, 723 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,000 Speaker 1: and better is not very big. You better get their 724 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 1: fast exactly. But it was fine. McVeigh calls Niver and 725 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,040 Speaker 1: he's like, Robie, Robie, I just wanted to make sure 726 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: you still got it. Wow. Yeah, yoh yeah, I like 727 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: these testing people. Yeah, it was a fun moment. Oh yeah, 728 00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,239 Speaker 1: it was a fun moment. But that to me, I 729 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: think kind of signals where this defense is, yeah, right, 730 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: you know you're pretty good and you're deep right, Yeah, 731 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 1: and then we haven't even talked about LaMarcus. We haven't 732 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: talked about him. Nobody really talks about Sam Shields either. 733 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: We do a lot. Um, it's just where do you 734 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: play him? Well, as what I'm saying, but as ah, 735 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: my gosh, Troy Hill I think has also made strides. 736 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Peterson picked up Jamie Garoppolo twice. There's gonna be 737 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 1: some serious competition in that room. A ton of competence. Yeah, 738 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: and guess who's smiling through all this bones fossil? Oh no, yeah, whatever, guy, 739 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,719 Speaker 1: you don't use great, I can use Yeah, I can 740 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: use them for everything. That is also very true um 741 00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: with special teams though. Greg Zerline has started kicking again. Yeah, 742 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 1: and you know, kicked whatever my head today. Yeah. Yeah, 743 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: his way of saying hello, I guess so yeah, he 744 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:07,480 Speaker 1: doesn't speak. He just kicks like yeah and punts. Yeah 745 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: the media, yeah, guy of that operation. But I think 746 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,920 Speaker 1: to see Greg's air Line kicking right now is a 747 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 1: really good sign. Yes, the Ramstle do have Sam Thicken 748 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: around right now, which is good because you don't, as 749 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 1: McVeigh was saying, you don't want to put Greg's Airline 750 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 1: in any position to have a setback, true in May 751 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: or June. Right, the game start counting in September. Greg's 752 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: airline will work up to that point, and that'll be fine. 753 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: But I think just to see him kick some balls off, 754 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 1: you know, the tensome field goals in a non pressure situation. 755 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 1: To see him doing that, I think is a great sign. Absolutely. 756 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,879 Speaker 1: I mean when you think of it, theoretically, he has 757 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: a chance to lead the league in points. Yeah, this 758 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 1: offense is going to score. He's got the leg to 759 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: nail it from just about anywhere. So he was a weapon. 760 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: Um at one point he was the only weapon for 761 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 1: the football team. Not last he's previous seasons he was 762 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,640 Speaker 1: the best weapon. You would say that, well, Johnny Hacker 763 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: your special teams. But I mean now, I mean when 764 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: you when you get past the fifty, you've got three 765 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 1: points in your pocket, right, Yeah, But it's a little 766 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,080 Speaker 1: bit different with this offense. It is. Yeah, Jared Goff 767 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: said that many many times last year. You know, you 768 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: want to be careful with the football, especially once. I 769 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,040 Speaker 1: mean you want to be careful with the football at 770 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: all times, but especially you don't want to take too 771 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: many risks when you know you have you've got three 772 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: points board, Yeah, basically from Greg's al and that really 773 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 1: hamstrings you on the other side of the ball, yes, 774 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 1: because you have to be honest with everything you do 775 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,600 Speaker 1: because they can score from here traditionally, and they've got 776 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,920 Speaker 1: a pretty good field goal kicker. So you have to 777 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:44,719 Speaker 1: make the right calls on defense, which makes you a 778 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: little tight. You know what's interesting just thinking about you 779 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: keep looking at your watch, by the way, because you 780 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: look down one more time, I'm gonna jab you. You said, 781 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: we don't look at our watch as while we're working, Miles. 782 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,640 Speaker 1: I don't need to tell the people what you said. 783 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: Jory will tell us when it's time. You just keep working. 784 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,839 Speaker 1: Does Joy even know when it's time? Of course he does. Yeah, yeah, 785 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,280 Speaker 1: See Elizabeth, there we go right, fine, So I'll stop 786 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,240 Speaker 1: looking at my stop looking at you just did it again. 787 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: You just did it again. Anyway, I'm trying to bring 788 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 1: this thing to a close so you can be at 789 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: of why are we closing? We don't close. We just 790 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,800 Speaker 1: keep going so you can go pick up your child. 791 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: That's Corey Littleton right there. Hey Corey, how you doing, sir? 792 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 1: Call the defense for us real quick, perfect, perfect, um 793 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 1: just thinking about where this team is now in comparison 794 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 1: to a year ago, all the unknowns we had going 795 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,799 Speaker 1: into twenty eats, no, exactly, the unknowns I think are 796 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: pretty few for this Rams team. Just thinking about roster spots, 797 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: thinking about I don't know, potential starting roles. We'll think 798 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: about how last year this time we were talking about 799 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,399 Speaker 1: the right side of the offensive line. Yeah, okay, and 800 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: how those two guys have really come along. So the 801 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,720 Speaker 1: issues and the unknowns that we talk about now, okay, 802 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,359 Speaker 1: let's just assume they're going to get better. Well, where 803 00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: do you put the football team then? Yeah? Yeah, I 804 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: think that's the difference. That's why you're seeing a little 805 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: more spree decord tapping the step. I think by this 806 00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,879 Speaker 1: time had the Rams traded Greg Robinson by this time 807 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 1: last year? It was around this time around Yeah, you 808 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 1: were moving on. I know that, Yes, Andrew Whitworth was 809 00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 1: already introduced, Yes, by this time. Yeah, yeah, Well, I 810 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: just mean from a the sampoint I mean, do you 811 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:32,400 Speaker 1: remember that he was playing right tackle at the beginning 812 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600 Speaker 1: of all that, and then Jamon Brown I think went 813 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: in at right tackle, and then eventually they were just like, yeah, 814 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: let's just do this the way they Right, we thought 815 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: we would do it back in twenty fifteen, right, and 816 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: when they both of those guys first came in, and 817 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: that worked out so so well, you have all of 818 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 1: those guys starting the first fifteen games, you know, So, 819 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,280 Speaker 1: I mean when you're trying to find an outside linebacker, 820 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,439 Speaker 1: trying to find an inside linebacker. I mean, they seem 821 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: like issues now, But like we said, if you're if 822 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 1: your exceptional players are playing at the top of the game, 823 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,920 Speaker 1: than you can really really overcome I guess guys that 824 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: are learning their positions, that is the truth. Yeah, you 825 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: can really overcome that. But I mean, I think what's 826 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,880 Speaker 1: special about this football team is what's going on on 827 00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 1: the other side of the ball and how much continuity 828 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: they have there and how much of a jump you 829 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,880 Speaker 1: can get on everyone there because you're still trying to 830 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 1: figure out how to cover him last year and guess what, 831 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: they've gotten better, so they're gonna throw some new stuff 832 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,440 Speaker 1: at you that you haven't seen. Sean McVay is a 833 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: big proponent of the self scout. Okay, what did we 834 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,960 Speaker 1: do well last year? What did I maybe do that 835 00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,320 Speaker 1: made a tendency? They're going to do a lot of 836 00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 1: tendency brickers. I think they're going to do a lot 837 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: of creative stuff and we're going to see exactly what 838 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,800 Speaker 1: Sean McVeagh has in store once this season gets started. 839 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 1: This is funny fighting. I'm standing on the sidelines and 840 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 1: I'm watching, Like the play he calls and what it 841 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,200 Speaker 1: did to the defense, I want to punch him in 842 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,399 Speaker 1: the face. I do. Like that was just mean man, 843 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Give up a chance? Well, 844 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,440 Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a lot of that 845 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,680 Speaker 1: this year. I bet. Yeah, absolutely, with knowing the personnel, 846 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: especially you know, with the year under his belt as 847 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: a head coach. This guy I think is really ready. 848 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,640 Speaker 1: He was Coach of the Year last year. What's next? 849 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 1: And it's the guy that's driven to succeed and driven 850 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: to get better. I think it's gonna be fun. I 851 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: don't think last year was good enough for him. I mean, 852 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:12,680 Speaker 1: of course he's happy, he's proud of his football team, 853 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:14,600 Speaker 1: but that's not enough for him personally. That's that's the 854 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: vibe I get. Yeah, Yeah, I wonder if the Lombardi 855 00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 1: would be enough. I don't know. I think he might 856 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,879 Speaker 1: be thinking more like multiples. Yeah, yeah, which is good 857 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,360 Speaker 1: for us. Absolutely yes, fun things to talk about. And 858 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: stop looking at your watch. Ahead, I'm done looking at 859 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 1: my watch. You know why, If Sean McVay caught you 860 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 1: looking at your watch, he'd fire you that. We'll do 861 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:37,279 Speaker 1: it for this edition. Up between the horns, everybody, thanks 862 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,640 Speaker 1: so much for tuning in for DeMarco far for I 863 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:41,799 Speaker 1: am Miles Simmons. We we'll see you next time.