WEBVTT - Fixing College Football

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the solid verbal Hell that for me. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a man, I'm.

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<v Speaker 2>For I've heard so many players say, well, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be happy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to be happy for a day? Edith Steak

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<v Speaker 1>is that woo woof? And then and Tie?

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome back to the solid verbal Boys and girls, My

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<v Speaker 2>name is Ty Hildenbrand, joining me as always over there

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<v Speaker 2>in Chili, Chicago, Illinois. The one and only Dan Rubinstein sirs,

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<v Speaker 2>how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Some wise words?

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<v Speaker 2>Tie?

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<v Speaker 1>When you try your best but you don't succeed, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get what you want but not what you need, Ty,

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<v Speaker 1>when you feel so tired but you can't sleep, stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in reverse? You want me to continue?

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<v Speaker 2>Are we doing the New Age version or are we

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<v Speaker 2>doing the cold Play version? Because I think there's like

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<v Speaker 2>a new version of that song.

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<v Speaker 1>I just know, my boy Chrissy Martin.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually no, I lie, it's not a new version of

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<v Speaker 2>Fix You is a cover that I think I saw

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere out on YouTube.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, well I remember it from the OC. That's

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<v Speaker 1>that's where I go back to. So thematically, Tie, You're

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<v Speaker 1>you're recovering and I'm trying to fix you. You know

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<v Speaker 1>That's who I am. Also for this show. We get

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<v Speaker 1>inundated throughout the season with playoff fixes, with individual game fixes,

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<v Speaker 1>with schedule fixes, with conference fixes, and that's never really

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<v Speaker 1>the right time. And I wanted to right now, as

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<v Speaker 1>the season has ended, when all of those strong emotions

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<v Speaker 1>are still fresh at our on our cortexes tie very fresh.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to I wanted to fix you college football

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<v Speaker 1>via verbaler's suggestions. I said, no, no, what's it called

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<v Speaker 1>no postseason stuff? And you're gonna You're gonna give all

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<v Speaker 1>of our fun solid verbal information here momentarily. But this

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<v Speaker 1>is how I wanted to tie it all back together

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<v Speaker 1>to Chris Martin and Marissa from the OC, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's an apt way to put it. Dan,

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<v Speaker 2>we are the Soliverbol Thank you and me. My voice

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<v Speaker 2>is recovering, recovering, although when we connect it up here

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<v Speaker 2>it had a moment which I think was caused for

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<v Speaker 2>alarm on both things.

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<v Speaker 1>You got the black lung pop.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're working through it. We're doing our best. To

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<v Speaker 2>Soldier on Hello, welcome back, I'm Ty He's Dan. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the Soliverble College Football Podcast. Just because there is

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<v Speaker 2>no college football does not mean there is not a

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<v Speaker 2>soliverable podcast. We'll be going twice a week Tuesday Thursday

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<v Speaker 2>for the foreseeable future. At some point as we get

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<v Speaker 2>closer to the season, maybe in like July, we're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>ramp back up to three episodes per week. But got

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of months here, We've got time to fill.

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<v Speaker 2>Got stuff to talk about an on tonight's show. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>we're talking some serious stuff in many regards, this is

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<v Speaker 2>one of the more important shows that we've ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>In this podcast, we're talking serious subjects. How do we

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<v Speaker 2>fix college football? We went out there, we pulled our

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<v Speaker 2>wise and all knowing verballerhood to get their suggestions. We

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<v Speaker 2>got some good ones that we I think need to

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<v Speaker 2>chew on here over the course of like the next

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<v Speaker 2>forty minutes or so Verballers dot com is our Patreon.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got bonus content that we're going to be dropping

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<v Speaker 2>there all off season long. If you're interested again verballers

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<v Speaker 1>Solid verbal by bonus content in the off season. You

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<v Speaker 1>mean mainly the two of us playing Super Smash Bros.

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<v Speaker 1>Mainly mainly, right, there is more to it than just that,

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<v Speaker 1>But okay, it's an element, an element. Why don't we

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<v Speaker 1>get to news before we do that? Fix things?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing the primal scream today, Dan breaking new

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<v Speaker 2>That wasn't bad. You had a little bit of a

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<v Speaker 2>of a vibrato. Yeah, yeah, going at the end there,

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<v Speaker 2>which I appreciate. We've got a mess at Tennessee, don't we.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean sort of status quo, but yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We've got well, a different kind of mess at Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee was conducting an internal investigation into its football program

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<v Speaker 2>after I guess interviewing Jeremy Pruitt and finding what they found,

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<v Speaker 2>they decided to get rid of him. Phil Fulmer, their

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<v Speaker 2>ad is also stepping down. This presents a very unique

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<v Speaker 2>circumstance on a number of different fronts, not the least

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<v Speaker 2>of which is that Kevin Steele, who was just brought

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<v Speaker 2>over from Auburn after losing his job down there. He

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<v Speaker 2>is now reinstalled as an interim head coach at another

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<v Speaker 2>program because they needed somebody who could fill the gaps.

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<v Speaker 2>So Kevin Steele is in there dutyflee, trying to bring

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<v Speaker 2>over guys from Auburn who he thinks might be good

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<v Speaker 2>for the staff. I don't think he's going to get

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<v Speaker 2>that job. There is some confusion over whether he even

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<v Speaker 2>has the authority to make hires at this point. All

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<v Speaker 2>the while, we've got this NCAA investigation, we've got the

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<v Speaker 2>Tennessee self investigation. Jeremy Pruett and his lawyer are obviously

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<v Speaker 2>pissed about this scenario, and presumably there is some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of ongoing search for not only a new ad but

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<v Speaker 2>also a head football coach.

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<v Speaker 1>Jan what you would think?

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<v Speaker 2>So, what a freaking mess in Knoxville.

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<v Speaker 1>I was really hoping you were going to go to

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<v Speaker 1>the point. And maybe you didn't read this, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>the silliest part of this whole thing, and also the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of this whole thing. Did you see the

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<v Speaker 1>dan Patrick report about some of the brazen operations alleged

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<v Speaker 1>by the recruiting staff and assistant coaches? Was this ledged?

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<v Speaker 2>It was this, the thing about giving money out to

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<v Speaker 2>recruits in McDonald's bags.

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<v Speaker 1>I am infuriated by this allegation, and I'm not infuriated

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<v Speaker 1>because of the money. And I'm not infuriated because of

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<v Speaker 1>recruits getting money or family's getting whatever. Is McDonald's and

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<v Speaker 1>their wrappings, their bags and the boxes that perhaps like

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<v Speaker 1>a Big Mac comes in. Is that the best fast

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<v Speaker 1>food solution for money donating payment? To me, it feels

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<v Speaker 1>like Chipotle is the easy answer because of the shape

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<v Speaker 1>of a burrito in foil. It would not that money

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<v Speaker 1>in a brown bag would raise any eyebrows because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't see the money through the bag. And perhaps if

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<v Speaker 1>it's in a Big Mac stacked box whatever, I just

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Chipotle's too obvious. I don't know how close to

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<v Speaker 1>Chipotle is to the Tennessee campus if all of this

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<v Speaker 1>is true, which who knows. But what I'm trying to think,

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<v Speaker 1>but fast food bag and or box vehicle pizza's too

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<v Speaker 1>easily found, right, Pizza box?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I mean, look, it's not going to be in

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<v Speaker 2>a Tennis Tennessee branded envelope.

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, no, But but you just open a pizza box

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<v Speaker 1>and you know every the food is naked to the eye.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no unwrapping of a pizza after you open the box.

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<v Speaker 1>But you could you could hide cash within a situation.

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<v Speaker 2>So you're really you're going like you're you're going like

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<v Speaker 2>deep cover with this thing you're talking about. Let's take

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<v Speaker 2>the rolls of twenties, Let's position them accordingly, and then

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<v Speaker 2>put the tinfoil around so it presents as a burrito.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, I would find somebody, a friendly worker at Chipotle

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<v Speaker 1>to actually make a burrito with rolls of twenties stuffed in.

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<v Speaker 1>This is whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>This is kind of like a Poyo situation. Yeah, at

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<v Speaker 2>a breaking bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah, I just I think you could have gotten

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<v Speaker 1>more creative with the delivery mechanism than just the standard

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<v Speaker 1>McDonald's bag.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, eighty five percent of life is packaging, and they

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<v Speaker 2>chose they chose McDonald's here allegedly, allegedly, which is one

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<v Speaker 2>approach I have not given much thought to the best

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<v Speaker 2>fast food packaging. Maybe this is something else that we

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<v Speaker 2>can put to the verballer hood, because my guess is

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to get some creative solutions here as well

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<v Speaker 2>as for the mess at Tennessee beyond the packaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so you want to go over coaching candidates.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, have you earned some of the names that are

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<v Speaker 2>being thrown about because it's not the latest certainly it's

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<v Speaker 2>not as late as we saw at Michigan State a

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<v Speaker 2>year ago, but it's still pretty late in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>What are some of the names being thrown about at

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<v Speaker 2>this juncture.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a few Knoxville area Chipotle Mexican Grills, but.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, terrific great there are.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are options. Some of the names the more

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<v Speaker 1>Jamie Chadwell Coast Carolina Tennessee connections. Billy Napier from the

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<v Speaker 1>state certainly has succeeded in the area. I know his

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<v Speaker 1>name went up on campus on the famous giant Tennessee rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien, even though he has the Alabama job right

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<v Speaker 1>now as offensive coordinator under consideration because now he's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to coach in the SEC. Perhaps he wants a head job.

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Herman, Gus Melson, I don't know. I mean, Kevin

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<v Speaker 1>Steele's probably in that mix because he was in the

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<v Speaker 1>mix at Auburn and he's on campus as the acting

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<v Speaker 1>head coach. So a number of large names. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>difficult job though, in terms of well, there's no athletic

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<v Speaker 1>director right now, so we got to see who's hired

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<v Speaker 1>and who that person might have connections to in the

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<v Speaker 1>coaching world. But also you have two growing and now

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<v Speaker 1>established powers. Florida was in the SEC championship game. Georgia

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<v Speaker 1>has been recruiting on another worldly level and it has

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<v Speaker 1>been playing in some big games. And Tennessee, while they've

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<v Speaker 1>recruited very well, it's another situation in which what they

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<v Speaker 1>lost their final five games by double digits, and there

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<v Speaker 1>is now I think a bit of a stigma about

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<v Speaker 1>coaching Tennessee, how you'll be treated at Tennessee being let

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<v Speaker 1>go pretty quickly. You know, guys just keep getting fired

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<v Speaker 1>and they haven't been the right answer for sure. But

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<v Speaker 1>Jeremy Pruitt goes sixteen to nineteen and Tennessee searches, arguably

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<v Speaker 1>successfully for a reason to get rid of him without

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<v Speaker 1>paying him a buyout. And it just it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>stability is the name of the game in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>college football success, and Tennessee is whatever the opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>stable is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, in other news around college football, we'll we'll

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<v Speaker 2>obviously stay on top of that one as best as

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<v Speaker 2>we can. There are other openings around college football, not

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<v Speaker 2>so much on that top line with the head coaching position,

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<v Speaker 2>but big time defensive coordinator positions that are still open

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<v Speaker 2>at LSU, at Oregon, at Washington as their guy went

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<v Speaker 2>to Texas, your guy, mister Avelo set Oregon went back

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<v Speaker 2>to Boise to be head football coach. So those are

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<v Speaker 2>three big ones in particular that we could discuss. We've

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<v Speaker 2>also had some assistant hires. I think we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the Marcus Freeman move on one of our show. I

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<v Speaker 2>like the move, yeah, I really do. I really like

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<v Speaker 2>the move to get Marcus Freeman from Cincinnati to be

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<v Speaker 2>the Notre Dame defensive coordinator. Doug Marone, a name that

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<v Speaker 2>many in college football and just football fans are familiar with,

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<v Speaker 2>had a run with Syracuse, was recently with the Jacksonville

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<v Speaker 2>Jaguars fired. Now he's going to Bama as an offensive

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<v Speaker 2>line coach. Some other dan Enos dan Enos, the name

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<v Speaker 2>who has been bounced around a bunch of times now

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<v Speaker 2>over the last couple of seasons, had that stint at

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<v Speaker 2>Miami and then he was with Cincinnati. He's going to

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<v Speaker 2>Maryland as an offensive coordinator, which I think is an

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<v Speaker 2>interesting high. Any other names to you that are of

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<v Speaker 2>interest there?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, South Carolina retained and then lost Mike Bobo

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<v Speaker 1>to Auburn and now Marcus Aderfield, who is a Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Ruhle guy who he was with him at Baylor and

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<v Speaker 1>I think he was with him at Temple and with

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<v Speaker 1>him with the Panthers as an assistant offensive line coach.

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<v Speaker 1>He is the new offensive coordinator at South Carolina. A

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<v Speaker 1>lot of NFL to college moves. Jim O'Neill, who was

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<v Speaker 1>the Raiders defensive backs coach, and I saw Roger Sherman

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<v Speaker 1>tweet this out because Jim O'Neill is heading to Northwestern,

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<v Speaker 1>is their new DC, replacing Mike Hankowitz. Jim O'Neil the

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<v Speaker 1>architect of one of the all time worst NFL defenses

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<v Speaker 1>for the forty nine Ers four years ago. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know enough about that stint, but that's a thing. Jesse Minter,

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<v Speaker 1>the Ravens defensive backs coach, goes to Vanderbilt. So Clark Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>we assume has a pretty good eye for defensive talent,

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<v Speaker 1>so he's going to the NFL as well in search

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<v Speaker 1>of his coordinator. Maurice Linguist, a Cowboys defensive backs coach.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about the Cowboys defense because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't watch the NFL, but he is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a co defensive coordinator with Mike McDonald, who Jim Harbaugh

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<v Speaker 1>hired away from John Harbaugh at the Ravens as well.

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<v Speaker 1>Doug Marone, which is wild was an NFL head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>is now going to be the offensive line coach at Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>replacing Kyle Flood, one of the absolute best offensive line

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<v Speaker 1>coaches in the country. If you watch what Alabama did

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<v Speaker 1>this past year. He moves on to go to Texas

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<v Speaker 1>and hang around with Sark, so moves all over the

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<v Speaker 1>place there. That's just sort of a drop in the

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<v Speaker 1>bucket because all sorts of position coaches, coordinators all over

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<v Speaker 1>the sport. Those changes are happening every day. But those

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the ones that stuck out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>And Washington with a bunch of talent, organ with a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of talent, LSU with a bunch of talent. LSU

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<v Speaker 1>thought they were getting a Saints coach in the way

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<v Speaker 1>that they got Joe Brady a couple of years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>But Ryan Nielsen is returning to the Saints after it

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<v Speaker 1>looked like he was going to go to LSU. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>all sorts of movement that will keep happening, I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>even more after the full official signing day, so we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens.

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<v Speaker 2>We will see what happens, all right? Shall we get

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<v Speaker 2>to are more important business of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Our Chris Martin game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we want to fix college football.

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<v Speaker 1>We do. I like college football, but you know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>open to ideas.

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<v Speaker 2>Ty, How did how did we present this question to

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<v Speaker 2>the verballer hood?

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<v Speaker 1>We said, outside of the postseason, so bowls and playoff

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. What's your best idea to improve college football?

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<v Speaker 1>The more out there the better. And I think between

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and email and wherever, we got about one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty ideas. I paired it down to I guess

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<v Speaker 1>six pages worth on this document.

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<v Speaker 2>But how many resplects? Just did we get to this?

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<v Speaker 2>Like one hundred and fifty?

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we should. I posted the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>were most intriguing. And here's how I want this exercise

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<v Speaker 1>to go. This is my plan for us. Please, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to some of these are sillier than others, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to approach it considering the positive change that

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<v Speaker 1>this idea from whoever, from whomever, would bring about, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we can poke holes in it. I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh at an idea for being silly. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to look at what an idea addresses, what problem the

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<v Speaker 1>idea addresses, talk about how it might result in a

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<v Speaker 1>positive outcome for the sport, and then say, but this

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<v Speaker 1>is also a consideration which makes it not make as

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<v Speaker 1>much sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, there are three ideas that were sent to us

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<v Speaker 2>that I would consider marrying over my wife whoa three

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<v Speaker 2>ideas on here, and we can discuss them. I will

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<v Speaker 2>make sure we discuss them. Three He don't tell her

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<v Speaker 2>I said that I will not.

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<v Speaker 1>I will not. She is not a patron. She's waiting

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<v Speaker 1>to see more out of us before she fully commits.

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<v Speaker 2>There are three ideas on here in particular that really

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<v Speaker 2>would never work, but are things I had never previously considered.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm going let's talk about the problem they attempt

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<v Speaker 2>to solve and evaluate. Okay, where do you want to start?

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't we go first? You get to pick.

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen this sentiment basically since the playoff came together

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<v Speaker 1>in Alabama won their whatever number national championship, where people

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<v Speaker 1>I've been saying, and I hate you know, that's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a straw man. People on Twitter are saying, but

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<v Speaker 1>I have seen this from a number of a number

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<v Speaker 1>of college football fans that something has to be done.

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<v Speaker 1>Capital d about Alabama and the powers of the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio State, Clemson, whatever, amassing too much talent, hogging all

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<v Speaker 1>of the five star talent. Okay, so I'll start here.

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<v Speaker 1>Kimmi Lynn long long, long, long, long long time for

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<v Speaker 1>baller says, limit the number of five star recruits a

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<v Speaker 1>program can sign based on where they finish for the year.

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<v Speaker 1>If you make the playoff, you cannot sign more than

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<v Speaker 1>three five stars in the top ten outside of the

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<v Speaker 1>college football plaoff, no more than five five stars and

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<v Speaker 1>similar sentiments from both Bobby and Aquila Aquila, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lowering a scholarship limit and making all teams relevant and

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<v Speaker 1>recruiting more balanced. Ty, what say you about approaching that

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<v Speaker 1>perceived problem head on and making actual changes to how

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<v Speaker 1>a program can build its roster.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very difficult. It certainly would impose a new challenge

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<v Speaker 2>on the likes of Nick Saban and Dabo Sweeney. So

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<v Speaker 2>I think let's put this way. If your goal, so.

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<v Speaker 1>What are we talking twenty four to seven composite five stars?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming so we're basically putting the future of the

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<v Speaker 2>sport in the hands of Bud Elliott, which I'm fine

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<v Speaker 2>with because I love Budd.

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<v Speaker 1>Totally good by me, totally totally good.

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<v Speaker 2>Bud's smart dude, he knows what he's doing. Yeah, if

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<v Speaker 2>the goal of this we are first to consider the

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<v Speaker 2>positive change that this would bring about. Yes, m hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>If the goal, the intended desire of this rule is

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<v Speaker 2>to curb how much talent the have currently have on

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<v Speaker 2>their roster, this would accomplish that very quickly. This would

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<v Speaker 2>accomplish that within you know, a couple of years. I

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<v Speaker 2>think for sure, at least at the top level, it

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<v Speaker 2>wouldn't solve at all because I don't see anything here

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<v Speaker 2>about four stars and three stars. But in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>five star talent, for sure, the teams the top would

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<v Speaker 2>get fewer of those. The teams at the bottom would

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<v Speaker 2>at least have more access to some of those five

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<v Speaker 2>stars that you know wouldn't find favor with the likes

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<v Speaker 2>of an Alabama, Clemson, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're talking essentially, we're talking if guys are unable

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<v Speaker 1>to go to teams at the top of the sport,

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<v Speaker 1>and it trickles down so all of a sudden, a

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<v Speaker 1>team like Iowa State or Northwestern right, or exactly Oklahoma State,

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly they're getting five star defensive linemen, they're getting a

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<v Speaker 1>top top national quarterback most years or some years as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to never a team like NC State getting the

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<v Speaker 1>number one running back in the country, and all you

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<v Speaker 1>game changing players at individual positions, not necessarily dramatically changing

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<v Speaker 1>the complexion of their roster overall, but pieces they normally wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Have exactly, so like Northwestern could have ruined Hunter Johnson

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<v Speaker 2>as a freshman, not as a transfer, that sort of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's I don't want to say it's silly

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<v Speaker 1>because I appreciate the problem it's trying to solve, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's a fixable problem. You can't

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<v Speaker 1>just you have to let kids go where they want

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<v Speaker 1>to go, right, because there are reasons, real reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if they go to this power, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be developed in a better way for the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>They're going to be practicing against higher level competition that

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<v Speaker 1>better prepares them for both games and for their NFL goals,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if they're top level recruits. What do you do

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<v Speaker 1>to discourage or even a playing field one. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know that the playing field needs to be even that

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<v Speaker 1>has never really been a feature of the sport. It's

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<v Speaker 1>never like how many national championships have those schools that

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<v Speaker 1>I just rattled off one, I don't know if they've

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<v Speaker 1>won any. And that's okay, because it's just a very

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<v Speaker 1>strange sport. What I will say, though, ty, if we

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<v Speaker 1>went down a certain number of scholarships, and I'm I

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<v Speaker 1>hear me out because I think the number of scholarships

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<v Speaker 1>should remain the same. But if we went down the

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<v Speaker 1>number of acceptable scholarships to say seventy five, and then

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<v Speaker 1>for every scholarship you issue over seventy five, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to pay some sort of luxury tax.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so you're going Major League Baseball at this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, NBA does this, and there's like the repeater tax.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's say we kill two birds with one stone

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<v Speaker 1>and say that tax. Say it's twenty thousand dollars for

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<v Speaker 1>every scholarship this is over seventy five. Continue, and then

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<v Speaker 1>at the end end of the season, that all gets

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<v Speaker 1>split to like the twenty four players who play the

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<v Speaker 1>most snaps.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh man, Okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to include special teams. That's why I said

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four and not twenty two, so we can include

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<v Speaker 1>a specialist. Okay, well who dominates there.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, the problem with this is that it doesn't say

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<v Speaker 2>anything about four stars. And if you're Alabama, if you're Alabama,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're Clemson, for sure you get a ton of

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<v Speaker 2>five stars, but you get more four stars and you

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<v Speaker 2>even get some really high level three stars there where

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<v Speaker 2>they are because of their ability to develop.

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<v Speaker 1>Talent, right, you're holding something against them for working hard

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<v Speaker 1>and being talented exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, just because you can pick a five

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<v Speaker 2>star off the vine doesn't mean it's going to ripen

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<v Speaker 2>into a superstar. And I think those schools in particular

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<v Speaker 2>have proven very very good at doing that for a

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<v Speaker 2>variety of reasons, coaching, just philosophy. We could talk about

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<v Speaker 2>that until we're blue in the face. So I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this actually addresses the problem. I think furthermore, to

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<v Speaker 2>punish teams that do really well in the playoff or

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<v Speaker 2>bowl season, whatever, that's not a sustainable system. If you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking to try and raise the floor in a sense,

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<v Speaker 2>then I think you have to respond not by taking

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<v Speaker 2>away at the top, but maybe by adding at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 2>So building in some incentives for those teams at the bottom,

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<v Speaker 2>so that they could find ways to level the playing field,

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<v Speaker 2>or maybe if you want to tie it back into

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<v Speaker 2>the name, image and likeness thing, by improving the perks

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<v Speaker 2>that you can offer outside of that upper echelon to

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<v Speaker 2>try and a tract talent. But as it stands right now,

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<v Speaker 2>and I love the suggestion, but I just I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think this actually achieves what it's supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, we've had schools, arguably just as many schools recruit

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<v Speaker 1>on a super high level and squander and not succeed,

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<v Speaker 1>hook them, fight on, et cetera, et cetera. Next top

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<v Speaker 1>So next topic, okay, next, next idea to fix college

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<v Speaker 1>football every blue blood. That this is from Brian Fremo,

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<v Speaker 1>who does a great job with some analytics with college

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<v Speaker 1>football BCF toys, by the way, it does a great job. Yeah, FBI,

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<v Speaker 1>he's your boy, you love, he's my guy. Points for

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<v Speaker 1>play or points for drive, points per drive, every blue

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<v Speaker 1>blood goes independent Ooh okay, So what this addresses, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>assuming because this is the entirety of his idea. What

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<v Speaker 1>this addresses is the fact that the top schools, both

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of size, scope, success money, are doing more

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<v Speaker 1>for their conferences than their conferences are doing for them.

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<v Speaker 1>Schools like Ohio State, Oklahoma, Alabama, Clemson, I mean blue

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<v Speaker 1>bloods I guess are more traditional. That includes Ohio State, Michigan,

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<v Speaker 1>all those types of schools that they are bringing value

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<v Speaker 1>to the conferences without the conferences. And we've seen some

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<v Speaker 1>shaky leadership from conferences lately. We've seen some shaky realignment

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<v Speaker 1>Maryland and Rutgers lately. No offense but kind of offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this allows schools to maximize their own value,

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<v Speaker 1>like Notre Dame has going out and getting their own

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<v Speaker 1>TV deal, you know, keeping all the revenue from bowl games,

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of thing that schools, these types of schools

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<v Speaker 1>are leaving money on the table by agreeing to share.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know some of some of the conferences have

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<v Speaker 1>more unequal splits with payouts. But this would allow schools

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<v Speaker 1>to maximize their own ability. It's yeah, it's an interesting model.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I like it from a really high level.

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<v Speaker 2>I like.

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<v Speaker 1>So much of what we talk about is also they

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<v Speaker 1>just keep winning those conferences, so there's less drama.

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<v Speaker 2>They just keep winning the conferences. So much of what

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about here is like Notre Dame joining a conference.

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<v Speaker 2>Why haven't they joined the ACC or the Big ten

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<v Speaker 2>or wherever, right, And it's fun to kind of think

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<v Speaker 2>about this from a different perspective and have all the

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<v Speaker 2>other teams go to the Notre Dame route.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it from ZAG.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it is a ZAG. I like it from the

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<v Speaker 2>perspective of it would certainly promote some really interesting scheduling.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, though I'm fine with the SEC schedule,

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<v Speaker 2>it's obviously a gauntlet to make it through that, and

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:18.800
<v Speaker 2>sure Alabama did so wonderfully this year, but it would

0:25:18.800 --> 0:25:22.159
<v Speaker 2>definitely produce some interesting matchups that we wouldn't otherwise see.

0:25:22.200 --> 0:25:25.159
<v Speaker 2>So I like that. We actually got another suggestion a

0:25:25.240 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>couple of them that referenced maybe having a number of

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 2>teams build in an automatic open date in week ten

0:25:33.280 --> 0:25:35.800
<v Speaker 2>or eleven where they have to schedule another Power five team,

0:25:35.840 --> 0:25:37.800
<v Speaker 2>which is Yeah, we got a lot of scheduling ideas,

0:25:37.880 --> 0:25:41.960
<v Speaker 2>which which is cool and not on my top line

0:25:42.000 --> 0:25:44.600
<v Speaker 2>that I would marry, mind you, but it's still an

0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>interesting concept. So I like this idea from a scheduling standpoint.

0:25:50.200 --> 0:25:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Where I guess I would poke some holes is in

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:57.320
<v Speaker 2>that notion that they're gonna make more or could make

0:25:57.359 --> 0:26:00.000
<v Speaker 2>more on their own outside of the conference structure, because

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.959
<v Speaker 2>I think at least some of what we've seen with

0:26:04.040 --> 0:26:07.920
<v Speaker 2>respect to Notre Dame over the last few years points

0:26:07.920 --> 0:26:10.800
<v Speaker 2>in the direction that over the course of time, it

0:26:10.920 --> 0:26:13.560
<v Speaker 2>will make more financial sense for them to join a conference.

0:26:13.720 --> 0:26:16.800
<v Speaker 2>They're not quite able to maximize their own profit the

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:20.200
<v Speaker 2>way they did. What before some of these conferences were

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:22.720
<v Speaker 2>pulling down such big bucks from networks.

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:27.159
<v Speaker 1>What if teams went the modern Notre Dame route. What

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.160
<v Speaker 1>if we'll use Ohio State for this? Because Ohio State

0:26:29.200 --> 0:26:31.679
<v Speaker 1>has done really, really well in terms of TV ratings

0:26:31.720 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>these past few years. They're like, if you want a

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:35.199
<v Speaker 1>highly rated game, it's a really good idea to have

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:38.840
<v Speaker 1>the Buckeyes playing that game. An enormous fan base nationally.

0:26:39.600 --> 0:26:43.119
<v Speaker 1>What if Ohio State did the five Big Ten game

0:26:43.240 --> 0:26:48.000
<v Speaker 1>thing and then scheduled the rest of their schedule themselves. Yeah, well,

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's that's cool. That'd be great. I don't

0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:52.760
<v Speaker 1>know if it's rotating or you have, you know, a

0:26:52.800 --> 0:26:57.200
<v Speaker 1>pseudo pod where every year Ohio State plays Michigan, Michigan State,

0:26:57.200 --> 0:26:59.880
<v Speaker 1>Penn State. I don't know what game outside of those

0:27:00.080 --> 0:27:03.400
<v Speaker 1>three feels necessary on an Ohio State Big Ten schedule.

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.160
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm forgetting somebody, but I don't think I am.

0:27:06.320 --> 0:27:09.160
<v Speaker 1>Those feel like the biggies. If you're just a national

0:27:09.160 --> 0:27:10.800
<v Speaker 1>college football fan and who you want to see Ohio

0:27:10.880 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>State play, and who that fan base wants to see play,

0:27:15.960 --> 0:27:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I think maybe pseudo is the move. It gets us

0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 1>more interesting games. Now, all of these schools are still

0:27:22.560 --> 0:27:26.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna want a path to a playoff. As it stands now,

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame has a fantastic path in a normal year

0:27:29.840 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>in that they can probably go eleven to one, and

0:27:32.600 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>if they win a couple of those big games impressively,

0:27:34.800 --> 0:27:37.520
<v Speaker 1>they're in a pretty good spot. Notre Dame is they

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:39.480
<v Speaker 1>don't have to play a conference championship game in a

0:27:39.520 --> 0:27:44.160
<v Speaker 1>normal year, so it makes sense to me. And plus

0:27:44.160 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 1>we'll see Ohio State games on I don't know CBS,

0:27:49.200 --> 0:27:50.879
<v Speaker 1>we'll see that. You know, we'll get some sort of

0:27:50.880 --> 0:27:56.560
<v Speaker 1>network TV deal. Because it's an enormous, enormous program. I'm

0:27:56.720 --> 0:28:00.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of okay with it because it especially if if

0:28:00.640 --> 0:28:03.080
<v Speaker 1>we really really want and I'm not sure that I do,

0:28:03.200 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>but if we really really want as a college football society,

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:12.200
<v Speaker 1>if we want a more competitive Big ten Ohio State

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.679
<v Speaker 1>now playing in that conference championship game. I think gets

0:28:16.760 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 1>us there. It seems win win, though there is just

0:28:21.600 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>something to me like if we had all of a sudden,

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:30.240
<v Speaker 1>seven huge pseudo independent schools, it would throw me. Maybe

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.399
<v Speaker 1>I'm just old and I like am setting my ways.

0:28:33.119 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 1>It would throw me in that we are not all

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>in this together kind of thing with college football, which

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 1>I know is the reality, but then it's sort of

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>too baldly face.

0:28:44.160 --> 0:28:49.960
<v Speaker 2>I sort of like the possibility of the Big Ten

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 2>signing Ohio State to like a three year deal to have.

0:28:55.000 --> 0:28:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Like so like NBA superstar free agents doing the like

0:28:58.040 --> 0:28:59.200
<v Speaker 1>they have a player option.

0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Interesting. Okay, I like it. Where we go.

0:29:02.640 --> 0:29:06.480
<v Speaker 1>Next, Let's go with the silly one, which I absolutely love. Punts.

0:29:06.560 --> 0:29:11.680
<v Speaker 1>Every punt that a team kicks themselves now cost one point.

0:29:12.280 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 1>This is this is one of them. I would marry

0:29:14.560 --> 0:29:15.400
<v Speaker 1>this idea.

0:29:20.320 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I I love it well. I love this idea

0:29:24.480 --> 0:29:27.040
<v Speaker 2>with all my heart. I love this idea with all

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:31.560
<v Speaker 2>my heart. So we have been hearing Gosh for as

0:29:31.560 --> 0:29:33.600
<v Speaker 2>long as we've done this show, for as long as

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:37.400
<v Speaker 2>we've had any advanced analytical bent to this show, we

0:29:37.480 --> 0:29:40.200
<v Speaker 2>have been hearing teams need to go for it more

0:29:40.240 --> 0:29:43.040
<v Speaker 2>on fourth down, we need to go for it more

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.680
<v Speaker 2>and fourth down. And I don't know to what end

0:29:46.680 --> 0:29:49.680
<v Speaker 2>that's really materialize. Somebody smarter than I and you and

0:29:50.280 --> 0:29:53.360
<v Speaker 2>whoever would would probably need to tell us our team's

0:29:53.400 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 2>going for it more and fourth down. I don't think

0:29:55.360 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 2>they are, but it's it's long been the darling of

0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>the advanced analyst universe that this should be a thing. Certainly,

0:30:04.400 --> 0:30:10.360
<v Speaker 2>if you make punts a deduction like in figure skating

0:30:10.400 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 2>for a botched to loop, it would encourage you to

0:30:18.120 --> 0:30:21.480
<v Speaker 2>go on out there and try to go forward and

0:30:21.520 --> 0:30:26.680
<v Speaker 2>fourth down. I think it would also discourage the up

0:30:26.720 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>tempo play that we've come to know over the last

0:30:30.720 --> 0:30:34.240
<v Speaker 2>decade or so, because the more times your offense is

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.440
<v Speaker 2>out there, the more opportunity you have to punt and

0:30:38.480 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 2>potentially lose lose points. Yeah, I do wonder if like

0:30:47.560 --> 0:30:51.040
<v Speaker 2>an arm punt counts here, that could be the loophole

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to get around this, Like just get get your dude

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:56.960
<v Speaker 2>out there fourth and everybody go deep. Yeah, just get

0:30:57.000 --> 0:30:59.960
<v Speaker 2>Joe Milton out there and try to heave the ball

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.360
<v Speaker 2>as far as you can and you know, right, the

0:31:02.400 --> 0:31:07.200
<v Speaker 2>defense could obviously try to knock it down, but you

0:31:07.320 --> 0:31:09.800
<v Speaker 2>still got to cover the guys because otherwise they could

0:31:09.800 --> 0:31:12.120
<v Speaker 2>go for a touchdown. So we have a lot to

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 2>work out with this rule, I think, But I like

0:31:15.040 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 2>it from a really high level.

0:31:17.080 --> 0:31:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I can tell you this. In twenty eleven, Duke led

0:31:19.920 --> 0:31:24.760
<v Speaker 1>the nation with thirty six fourth down attempts three per

0:31:24.800 --> 0:31:27.440
<v Speaker 1>game twelve games, thirty six if my math ads up,

0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:31.800
<v Speaker 1>twenty nineteen thirteen and thirty nine thirteen games thirty nine

0:31:31.800 --> 0:31:36.600
<v Speaker 1>attempts for army three a game. So has it necessarily

0:31:36.680 --> 0:31:40.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty eighteen twelve attempt twelve games, forty four

0:31:40.200 --> 0:31:43.600
<v Speaker 1>attempts for FAU. It's all sort of within thirty eight

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to forty four. On the air, there's no to me

0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:48.960
<v Speaker 1>statistical outlier. Teams don't seem to be going for it

0:31:49.000 --> 0:31:51.640
<v Speaker 1>all that much more on fourth down. They should be,

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>especially if you're midfield ish and it's fourth and short.

0:31:54.320 --> 0:31:58.280
<v Speaker 1>Mathematically believe it makes a ton of sense to so

0:31:59.640 --> 0:32:04.000
<v Speaker 1>I love this idea. I would not. I mean, points

0:32:04.040 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 1>are so important, Dan said, obviously unless you're within like

0:32:08.920 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 1>inside your own fifteen or twenty. I don't think if

0:32:12.400 --> 0:32:14.960
<v Speaker 1>this were a rule, I don't think teams are punting. Yeh,

0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:19.840
<v Speaker 1>I think this would encourage more active football twenty five

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:22.360
<v Speaker 1>percent more plays going fourth on fourth down, it's twenty

0:32:22.360 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 1>five percent, I think, So.

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I think we could modify this rule to make it like,

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:35.080
<v Speaker 2>if you are inside the forty yard line and you punt,

0:32:35.360 --> 0:32:37.960
<v Speaker 2>then it costs a point. I don't think you want

0:32:37.960 --> 0:32:40.120
<v Speaker 2>to put other teams forty Yeah. Yeah, I don't think

0:32:40.120 --> 0:32:42.760
<v Speaker 2>you want to put teams in a situation where they're

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>on their own five and they have to go for

0:32:44.680 --> 0:32:48.480
<v Speaker 2>it otherwise they'll lose a point because think of the

0:32:48.520 --> 0:32:50.560
<v Speaker 2>opportunity costs there. You can punt it away, or you

0:32:50.600 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 2>could throw a long interception and maybe still get a stop,

0:32:54.280 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 2>as opposed to turning it over on your own four

0:32:57.160 --> 0:32:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and giving a team an easy six.

0:32:59.760 --> 0:33:01.760
<v Speaker 1>So I think, I mean, you're just giving up a point.

0:33:01.920 --> 0:33:02.880
<v Speaker 1>You can make it up.

0:33:03.280 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 2>Well, you're giving up a point, and then if you

0:33:05.160 --> 0:33:07.360
<v Speaker 2>turn it over on your own four, you give it

0:33:07.400 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>to the other team they walton for a touchdown. Suddenly

0:33:09.800 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 2>that's a pretty big swing.

0:33:11.560 --> 0:33:12.960
<v Speaker 1>No, no, I'm saying that's when you go for a

0:33:13.000 --> 0:33:17.240
<v Speaker 1>punt when you're that backed up, I guess take the

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>point off. Yeah, all right, I love this.

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.120
<v Speaker 2>It is a great idea. Andrew. This is I don't

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 2>know what Andrew does for a living, but he should

0:33:24.880 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 2>be doing more than he is.

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:32.480
<v Speaker 1>The real weave revert back to pre alignment conferences. The problem,

0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of course with that this addresses is we've lost rivalry games.

0:33:39.440 --> 0:33:44.000
<v Speaker 1>Teams are sort of operating out of a desire, a

0:33:44.040 --> 0:33:47.280
<v Speaker 1>more selfish desire than the good for the sport necessarily.

0:33:47.280 --> 0:33:49.920
<v Speaker 1>And that's okay, that's understandable, but that is an issue,

0:33:50.480 --> 0:33:55.800
<v Speaker 1>and teams have made moves that have probably set their

0:33:55.840 --> 0:33:59.000
<v Speaker 1>program back just in terms of getting lost in the

0:33:59.000 --> 0:34:00.960
<v Speaker 1>shuffle and a jumbo size conference.

0:34:01.280 --> 0:34:04.400
<v Speaker 2>Can I can I issue? Can I can I issue

0:34:04.480 --> 0:34:06.960
<v Speaker 2>a bit of a zag here on this one?

0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Okay? And I'll say my interpretation of this is like

0:34:11.239 --> 0:34:13.759
<v Speaker 1>two thousand and five college football, Yeah, because there were

0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:15.440
<v Speaker 1>multiple steps of realignment.

0:34:15.840 --> 0:34:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Here's what I want to see. And you you jog

0:34:18.160 --> 0:34:22.240
<v Speaker 2>my memory talking about what problem? You think? This solves

0:34:23.200 --> 0:34:28.120
<v Speaker 2>every single rivalry in college football, the rivalry rivalries that

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 2>we've come to know and love. I'll use Penn State, Pit,

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:35.239
<v Speaker 2>I'll use Texas, Texas, and m there are a thousands

0:34:35.239 --> 0:34:39.160
<v Speaker 2>that we could list, yep, But inevitably, like we saw

0:34:39.160 --> 0:34:42.480
<v Speaker 2>with Texas, Texas, A and M. You have this kind

0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 2>of cold war between programs when a rivalry stops being

0:34:46.520 --> 0:34:51.399
<v Speaker 2>played as frequently, where each side wants to blame the other, right,

0:34:52.000 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>we need to come up with some system where it

0:34:57.000 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 2>is very clear who is to play for the rivalry ending.

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, I mean A and M leaving the conference is

0:35:05.640 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 1>a reason. But the reason they left is Texas and

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 1>the Longhorn Network. So I don't know how you accurately

0:35:11.239 --> 0:35:15.160
<v Speaker 1>point to the aggrieved party there.

0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:17.759
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking we need to have some sort of like

0:35:18.080 --> 0:35:24.760
<v Speaker 2>publicly televised mediation session where it is very clear after

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:27.920
<v Speaker 2>hearing out both sides either who is at fault or

0:35:27.920 --> 0:35:31.120
<v Speaker 2>that who decides or that they're a mutual Obviously, Bill Hancock,

0:35:31.680 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 2>he's a decider for everything. But we need to have

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:39.360
<v Speaker 2>some sort of very transparent process by which we decide

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:43.360
<v Speaker 2>is this rivalry going to continue? Is it one of

0:35:43.440 --> 0:35:45.880
<v Speaker 2>us to blame, both of us to blame. Are we

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 2>going to mutually part ways? Are we just going to

0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:52.000
<v Speaker 2>continue this thing into perpetuity? Because rivalries, rivalries are the

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 2>fabric of college football. Outside recruiting and outside rooting for

0:35:56.520 --> 0:35:59.399
<v Speaker 2>your alma mater, it is rivalries that really are the

0:35:59.440 --> 0:36:03.480
<v Speaker 2>engine behind this sport that make it so special. So

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:07.880
<v Speaker 2>the more I guess just hate that we could pump

0:36:07.920 --> 0:36:10.920
<v Speaker 2>into that process, the more raw emotion that we can

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>pump into rivalries, I think, the greater the health of

0:36:14.600 --> 0:36:16.799
<v Speaker 2>college football in the long term. So whatever we can

0:36:16.840 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>do on that front, I'm all about it.

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>I think we just need to put a bunch of

0:36:21.360 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>money on a table, ty. I think that's how we

0:36:24.120 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>get these games happening again. And you mentioned a name

0:36:27.000 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 1>in Bill.

0:36:27.320 --> 0:36:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Hancock, which is obviously very funny.

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I've got another name, ty. Do you remember who was

0:36:31.000 --> 0:36:35.840
<v Speaker 1>willing to put up money for a plus one playoff game?

0:36:36.200 --> 0:36:38.520
<v Speaker 1>Way back when? Do you remember who was going to

0:36:38.600 --> 0:36:43.120
<v Speaker 1>put up the money. I'm almost positive it was Michael Dell.

0:36:44.960 --> 0:36:47.879
<v Speaker 1>I'm almost positive I could be making that completely up.

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:49.920
<v Speaker 2>I forget what year it was. Let's just go with it.

0:36:49.960 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 2>Let's just go with Michael Dell. We're going with Michael Dell.

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.760
<v Speaker 2>He's got the money, he's a billionaire, he's in Texas,

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.600
<v Speaker 2>which is a football rich state.

0:37:00.480 --> 0:37:04.200
<v Speaker 1>And basically, if he says I'm going to put up

0:37:04.920 --> 0:37:08.400
<v Speaker 1>ten million dollars and it's going to go to whoever

0:37:08.680 --> 0:37:11.319
<v Speaker 1>wins this game, and it's going to go specifically to

0:37:12.120 --> 0:37:16.520
<v Speaker 1>a scholarship fund for underprivileged kids to attend that school.

0:37:17.080 --> 0:37:22.520
<v Speaker 1>And then and then we will learn who actually is

0:37:23.480 --> 0:37:27.640
<v Speaker 1>chicken shit, We'll actually learn which school because we've got

0:37:27.640 --> 0:37:29.879
<v Speaker 1>an amazing cause with an amazing amount of money tied

0:37:29.880 --> 0:37:32.440
<v Speaker 1>to it via Michael Dell, who I assume has a

0:37:32.480 --> 0:37:33.120
<v Speaker 1>ton of cash.

0:37:33.160 --> 0:37:36.040
<v Speaker 2>Should we should we secret verbal Michael Dell about this?

0:37:36.080 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Michael Dell does he have a Twitter account?

0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 2>His Twitter account is Michael Dell and it's got the

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:43.120
<v Speaker 2>blue check mark, So I'm fairly serry it's him. But

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:45.960
<v Speaker 2>what do we what do we see still had a

0:37:46.040 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 2>fifty five He's got a lot of money for a

0:37:48.600 --> 0:37:51.239
<v Speaker 2>fifty five year old dude. What How do we make

0:37:51.280 --> 0:37:55.200
<v Speaker 2>our approach here virtually without getting people on the bad

0:37:55.239 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 2>side of Michael Dell because we're I think we're looking

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:01.239
<v Speaker 2>for a diplomatic approach as opposed to the usual confusion

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>that we're trying to create.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Correct worth twenty seven B. I think you just tweet

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.680
<v Speaker 1>him and ask him can you put can you put

0:38:11.719 --> 0:38:14.680
<v Speaker 1>ten million annual dollars on the table to get Texas

0:38:14.680 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 1>and Texas A and M to play every year? He

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:19.839
<v Speaker 1>went to UT.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.000
<v Speaker 2>He did go to UT. I'm looking, I'm looking at it.

0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>But he's from Houston, which is a and M country.

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.120
<v Speaker 2>So he's got a vested interest here.

0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:27.800
<v Speaker 1>He does have a vested interest.

0:38:29.080 --> 0:38:32.480
<v Speaker 2>I wouldn't totally be opposed to Michael Dell taking over

0:38:32.520 --> 0:38:33.240
<v Speaker 2>college football.

0:38:35.440 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know enough about Michael Hotel, Yeah, I don't.

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.000
<v Speaker 2>I probably need to do a little bit more research.

0:38:41.080 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>But makes a good monitor and a decent laptop, right right,

0:38:48.160 --> 0:38:50.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean that's already better than Bill Hancock. Right.

0:38:50.880 --> 0:38:57.160
<v Speaker 1>His brother Adam is the longtime boyfriend of Pad Malakshmi. Okay,

0:38:57.600 --> 0:38:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he's a prime This is a primetime family.

0:38:59.640 --> 0:39:00.840
<v Speaker 2>This is a trimetime family.

0:39:01.480 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:39:01.960 --> 0:39:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Michael Dell on Twitter.

0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't know where we started revert to revert back

0:39:05.960 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>to pre alignment conferences and we ended up with Pad Malakshman,

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:09.520
<v Speaker 1>which is I think.

0:39:09.600 --> 0:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>We've got to go. We've got a suggestion here, okay,

0:39:13.920 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>to get rid of the fumble out of the back

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:19.160
<v Speaker 2>of the end zone rule. Now, okay, we saw this

0:39:19.280 --> 0:39:23.080
<v Speaker 2>recently in the NFL playoffs with the Browns. It happened

0:39:23.080 --> 0:39:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to the Browns, and you know, every time it happens,

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:30.840
<v Speaker 2>we see just this explosion of activity on Twitter and

0:39:30.880 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>social media. Get rid of the rule. Don't get rid

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 2>of the rule. Frankly, it's more people saying get rid

0:39:35.640 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 2>of it than otherwise. I have always been okay with

0:39:38.480 --> 0:39:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the rule, and I understand the argument against it. I

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:45.879
<v Speaker 2>understand that the offense drives the field to get down

0:39:45.920 --> 0:39:47.160
<v Speaker 2>in the end zone.

0:39:47.200 --> 0:39:50.560
<v Speaker 1>And if that same thing happens anywhere before, then any

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:51.799
<v Speaker 1>of those one hundred.

0:39:51.560 --> 0:39:56.560
<v Speaker 2>Yards right anywhere else. I totally understand the argument against

0:39:56.600 --> 0:39:59.279
<v Speaker 2>the rule. I just think it is and I think

0:39:59.280 --> 0:40:02.160
<v Speaker 2>it was Bill cal when I was watching the post

0:40:02.239 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 2>game for that for the Browns game, he was the

0:40:05.600 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>one who brought it up. I think it was a

0:40:06.960 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>halftime actually, and he said, look, this, this would be,

0:40:11.320 --> 0:40:17.640
<v Speaker 2>by any other standard, the most significant penalty levied against

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:21.280
<v Speaker 2>a team. Period. We don't see a twenty yard penalty

0:40:21.680 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 2>for pretty much anything else outside of pass interference. And

0:40:26.200 --> 0:40:28.360
<v Speaker 2>it's just wrong to penalty possession.

0:40:28.680 --> 0:40:29.839
<v Speaker 1>It's full possession, not.

0:40:29.800 --> 0:40:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Just in possession, and full possession. Sure, yeah, so I

0:40:33.280 --> 0:40:35.880
<v Speaker 2>take that point. I think it's valid. I guess the

0:40:35.960 --> 0:40:39.120
<v Speaker 2>reason that I'm okay with it is because it is

0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 2>such a quirk. It is such a quirk And you

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>know me, I'm all about the quirks. I want. I

0:40:45.400 --> 0:40:49.560
<v Speaker 2>want to spring football because of the quirkiness of it. Yeah, so,

0:40:49.760 --> 0:40:52.880
<v Speaker 2>I you know, that's not a compelling argument for I

0:40:52.960 --> 0:40:56.480
<v Speaker 2>understand that people are yelling at their at their audio

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:58.759
<v Speaker 2>player right now. You're not making a case for it. No,

0:40:58.800 --> 0:41:02.239
<v Speaker 2>I'm not, of course I'm not. I like the fact

0:41:02.280 --> 0:41:05.279
<v Speaker 2>that it is so quirky, and it is such a

0:41:05.400 --> 0:41:10.080
<v Speaker 2>steep punishment that I think I'm in favor of keeping it.

0:41:09.719 --> 0:41:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe there's like a sadist quality to that, but I'm

0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.400
<v Speaker 2>just I understand it okay with it.

0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:18.800
<v Speaker 1>I understand where you're coming from, because what you're doing

0:41:19.120 --> 0:41:23.239
<v Speaker 1>is you're punishing somebody for making a killer mistake where

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>it matters the most. So you're saying, right, this part

0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:29.440
<v Speaker 1>of the field is the most important part of the

0:41:29.480 --> 0:41:32.719
<v Speaker 1>field to not fumble it. So if you do fumble it,

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.200
<v Speaker 1>tough luck. Everybody knows the rule going in, and so

0:41:38.920 --> 0:41:41.440
<v Speaker 1>I understand the severity of it is not in line

0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:47.440
<v Speaker 1>with anything else in the sport. Man, when it happens

0:41:47.480 --> 0:41:49.920
<v Speaker 1>to your team though, and it happened to Oregon in

0:41:49.960 --> 0:41:51.800
<v Speaker 1>a key moment in two thousand and seven when it

0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 1>looked like they were on a national championship path, and ultimately,

0:41:55.239 --> 0:41:57.160
<v Speaker 1>if they had won out after losing a game the

0:41:57.200 --> 0:41:58.680
<v Speaker 1>way they did against Cal with I think it was

0:41:58.680 --> 0:42:01.120
<v Speaker 1>Cameron Colvin fumbling it out of the end zone, they

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>still would have gone to the national championship even with

0:42:03.239 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that move. So what happens to your team's brutal, But

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:10.600
<v Speaker 1>it's even for everybody. I would be okay with. Did

0:42:10.640 --> 0:42:14.680
<v Speaker 1>you ever play twenty one tie like the Driveway basketball

0:42:14.719 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>game you'd play with your friends? Sure, And I think

0:42:17.239 --> 0:42:19.360
<v Speaker 1>you have to get some way it goes for some

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:21.799
<v Speaker 1>iterations the game. You have to get exactly twenty one,

0:42:21.960 --> 0:42:24.080
<v Speaker 1>so you get two points if you make it out

0:42:24.120 --> 0:42:25.759
<v Speaker 1>on the court, you get one point when you make

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:30.120
<v Speaker 1>the free throw, and if you get to whatever it is.

0:42:30.120 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>If you get to twenty and miss a free throw,

0:42:31.800 --> 0:42:34.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously there's no way to get exactly twenty one, so

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:37.680
<v Speaker 1>you go back to twelve or something like that. I'm

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 1>okay with that too. I'm okay with being punished the

0:42:40.280 --> 0:42:43.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty yards but maintaining possession. You fumble it out of

0:42:43.280 --> 0:42:45.960
<v Speaker 1>the end zone on a scoring attempt, you have to

0:42:46.000 --> 0:42:50.279
<v Speaker 1>go back to the twenty. I think I'm okay with that.

0:42:53.000 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm okay with it. I understand the appeal of the

0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:03.640
<v Speaker 1>wrinkle where the stakes are just higher in this one

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:08.120
<v Speaker 1>by one foot area of the field. Yeah, I appreciate

0:43:08.200 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>the quirk of the rule. And you know, I was

0:43:11.040 --> 0:43:15.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this looking over this list, But I may

0:43:15.000 --> 0:43:16.880
<v Speaker 1>be more of a dick than I thought.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:21.960
<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't really appreive that our next shirt. Yeah,

0:43:22.040 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 2>I know, I don't really present as one. But one

0:43:24.640 --> 0:43:26.680
<v Speaker 2>rule that I wanted to add to the list here

0:43:27.280 --> 0:43:34.719
<v Speaker 2>is to reinstitute some use for margin of victory. I

0:43:34.800 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 2>have long held the belief.

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>And I've thought about this continue.

0:43:38.600 --> 0:43:41.479
<v Speaker 2>I set it on our live stream during the National

0:43:41.560 --> 0:43:44.439
<v Speaker 2>Championship when I lost my voice when we were talking

0:43:44.480 --> 0:43:47.720
<v Speaker 2>to Michael Felder that and I've said this to you, Gosh,

0:43:47.800 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 2>more times than I could ever count over the last

0:43:49.480 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 2>twelve years. The art of the blowout is very much

0:43:54.360 --> 0:43:58.400
<v Speaker 2>like a dying breed, and a good blowout sometimes just

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:03.080
<v Speaker 2>as a palette cleanser, as a way to assert dominance,

0:44:03.200 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>like it sucks when it happens to your team, but

0:44:07.800 --> 0:44:11.120
<v Speaker 2>sometimes when you see a team like a Wisconsin drop

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 2>eighty on another school, there is a certain show of

0:44:15.880 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 2>force there that need not be overlooked. So I don't

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.759
<v Speaker 2>know how we do that. I know that margin of

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:25.719
<v Speaker 2>victory has been boiled out of a lot of the

0:44:25.760 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 2>advanced stuff that we like to look at, and for

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:28.800
<v Speaker 2>good reason.

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, could you cap it. Could you say, let's

0:44:31.360 --> 0:44:34.839
<v Speaker 1>take margin of victory into account, but we're not going

0:44:34.880 --> 0:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>to take it into account above thirty five.

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 2>I think that's a possibility.

0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:43.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think thirty five points is the maximum number

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:46.160
<v Speaker 1>that we would take into account your average margin of victory,

0:44:46.200 --> 0:44:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and so you can blow out a team like old

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Big twelve Oklahoma Kansas style, Texas UCLA style. I think

0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:55.920
<v Speaker 1>that went the UCLA way when I think about it.

0:44:55.920 --> 0:44:58.600
<v Speaker 1>But where it's like seventy seven to six on the

0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:01.439
<v Speaker 1>bottom line, you're like, ooh, yeah, it's definitely a week one.

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:04.320
<v Speaker 1>I like a good blowout.

0:45:04.640 --> 0:45:05.200
<v Speaker 2>I love it.

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 1>It's much it's a much better way to lose as well,

0:45:08.520 --> 0:45:09.439
<v Speaker 1>no doubts.

0:45:09.120 --> 0:45:12.040
<v Speaker 2>It's a quick death. And yeah, I could very easily

0:45:12.120 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 2>see on some of those Tuesday night ranking shows or

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:19.760
<v Speaker 2>the reveal show at the end of the year talking

0:45:19.800 --> 0:45:23.920
<v Speaker 2>about how many thirty five plus point victories a team

0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 2>like a.

0:45:25.200 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's also a very specific metric. It's not like, well,

0:45:28.960 --> 0:45:31.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, this guy was missing, but they really showed

0:45:31.680 --> 0:45:33.319
<v Speaker 1>out in the second half. No, like that is a

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:35.840
<v Speaker 1>number that is a specific number that can be pointed to.

0:45:36.440 --> 0:45:39.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's maybe not great for a team like Bama.

0:45:40.000 --> 0:45:42.239
<v Speaker 2>Bama's probably the worst example. But I'll say a team

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>like Bama looking to get in the subs and build depth.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:50.000
<v Speaker 2>But presumably they could build up that lead early and

0:45:50.040 --> 0:45:50.399
<v Speaker 2>then but.

0:45:50.520 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>They didn't lose this year. It didn't matter what their

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.399
<v Speaker 1>market didn't true and they don't think they won any

0:45:54.400 --> 0:45:56.279
<v Speaker 1>of their games by single digits as well until the

0:45:56.320 --> 0:45:56.879
<v Speaker 1>Florida Games.

0:45:56.920 --> 0:45:58.799
<v Speaker 2>If they wanted to beat teams by thirty five, they

0:45:58.920 --> 0:46:05.239
<v Speaker 2>very well could have right exactly the ones that they.

0:46:03.280 --> 0:46:06.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's it's typically not the teams that have to

0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.640
<v Speaker 1>worry about it that if they want to win by

0:46:08.680 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 1>thirty five, they could. They're going to get in regardless

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:13.360
<v Speaker 1>if it's a choice at that point, they're going to

0:46:13.400 --> 0:46:18.839
<v Speaker 1>get in. DIRP step pay the players more, pay the

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:25.319
<v Speaker 1>coach is less fine with this? Do you tie bonuses

0:46:25.520 --> 0:46:30.239
<v Speaker 1>to both coaches and players something like, I mean, obviously

0:46:30.480 --> 0:46:32.200
<v Speaker 1>a higher paid coach is going to do better in

0:46:32.239 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 1>the way of bonuses than an entry level coach. But

0:46:36.640 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 1>do you tie you know, a coach getting one hundred

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:41.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars for winning the conference and then two hundred

0:46:41.400 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars more for making the playoff and two hundred

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.839
<v Speaker 1>and fifty thousand dollars more for winning a playoff game,

0:46:45.840 --> 0:46:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and five hundred thousand dollars more for winning the national championship.

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Do we peel off some Do we peel off some

0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.120
<v Speaker 1>bonus money for the players who play the most snaps.

0:46:54.400 --> 0:46:57.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm all in favor of giving some of the power

0:46:57.960 --> 0:47:01.080
<v Speaker 2>back to the players to change the balance of power,

0:47:01.120 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 2>because right now it's all.

0:47:02.719 --> 0:47:05.120
<v Speaker 1>Well, it's also incentive to go to those games as well.

0:47:05.360 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>It's incentive based. Yeah, I you know, saying pay the

0:47:09.040 --> 0:47:13.400
<v Speaker 2>players more. That's a lot to unpack. This isn't an

0:47:13.440 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 2>actual idea. This is more of just a hope, just

0:47:16.560 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 2>a hope. I do think that the way we are

0:47:20.280 --> 0:47:25.080
<v Speaker 2>headed with this name, image and likeness legislation is a

0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>good approach. I think it's a good approach. I don't

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:30.160
<v Speaker 2>know how the hell you regulate it, but I think

0:47:30.160 --> 0:47:34.480
<v Speaker 2>it's a good approach because it essentially takes out of

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.879
<v Speaker 2>the equation schools having to pay the players, and it

0:47:37.880 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>it's more of an Olympic model, right where you can

0:47:39.800 --> 0:47:42.680
<v Speaker 2>go out and you can use your name and benefit

0:47:42.760 --> 0:47:45.760
<v Speaker 2>off of off of whatever brand equity you have.

0:47:46.520 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 1>Also, but it also passes off the responsibility, which I'm

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.480
<v Speaker 1>not a huge fan of that. Like, if you're not

0:47:51.600 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 1>a big personality, if your left guard is incredible. I

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know what Quentin Nelson's personality was like at Notre Dame.

0:47:58.400 --> 0:48:01.359
<v Speaker 1>I think he is like a fairly decent presence about

0:48:01.440 --> 0:48:04.440
<v Speaker 1>him behind a microphone from what I've seen, But he

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:08.319
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a big, flashy, showy social media guy. But he

0:48:08.400 --> 0:48:11.399
<v Speaker 1>was the most important player arguably on that team. Right right,

0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.440
<v Speaker 1>If he's not keen on doing a car commercial or

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.960
<v Speaker 1>going on Instagram and selling some sort of like soap

0:48:18.040 --> 0:48:21.080
<v Speaker 1>for big men kind of thing, I don't think he

0:48:21.120 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>should be punished financially. It's tough. I understand the quandary,

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.840
<v Speaker 1>and it's I think it's an entry point, a fairness

0:48:30.040 --> 0:48:32.440
<v Speaker 1>entry point for players to take advantage of name, image

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 1>and likeness. But I'm okay with that generally.

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with trying to shift that balance of power

0:48:39.000 --> 0:48:42.719
<v Speaker 2>away from coaches. We got a couple here suggestions for

0:48:43.160 --> 0:48:47.160
<v Speaker 2>rules changes. Okay, so Johnny says, change the targeting rule

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>two levels one in a two. This reminds me of

0:48:49.920 --> 0:48:53.320
<v Speaker 2>like a flagrant one and two in basketball. He says,

0:48:53.360 --> 0:48:55.800
<v Speaker 2>one is a twenty yard penalty no ejection. Two is

0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:58.560
<v Speaker 2>a twenty yard penalty with an ejection for a clearly

0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:01.839
<v Speaker 2>blatant district ard for a defenseless player. So that's that's

0:49:01.880 --> 0:49:04.879
<v Speaker 2>one suggestion. We got another one here from Jack who

0:49:04.880 --> 0:49:08.200
<v Speaker 2>says no penalty for celebrations, which I love. This is

0:49:08.239 --> 0:49:12.280
<v Speaker 2>one of the other ones. Yeah, I just look, football

0:49:12.360 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 2>is a sport. It's fun. We watch for entertainment, and

0:49:16.000 --> 0:49:19.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm as long as there are not players out there

0:49:20.400 --> 0:49:26.640
<v Speaker 2>doing physical harm to their opponents defenselessly, I'm all about

0:49:26.640 --> 0:49:28.680
<v Speaker 2>the celebration. Let them celebrate, let them have fun.

0:49:28.719 --> 0:49:29.280
<v Speaker 1>That's fine.

0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:33.400
<v Speaker 2>We have another one here to say that overtime drives

0:49:33.480 --> 0:49:37.640
<v Speaker 2>should start at the forty, which I'm we talking about

0:49:37.640 --> 0:49:40.000
<v Speaker 2>the targeting first, let's talk about tari go ahead.

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:43.279
<v Speaker 1>My only thing with the targeting is it needs to

0:49:43.360 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 1>be an absolute rule. It either needs to not exist

0:49:45.520 --> 0:49:48.680
<v Speaker 1>at all, and the game goes back to the level

0:49:48.719 --> 0:49:51.560
<v Speaker 1>of violence. Good or bad depending on your worldview where

0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:57.319
<v Speaker 1>they lived before, or it has to be a no nonsense,

0:49:57.719 --> 0:50:00.839
<v Speaker 1>leave no doubt about anything close to targeting, you're out

0:50:00.840 --> 0:50:03.640
<v Speaker 1>of the game. The problem is when you compare it

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:07.840
<v Speaker 1>to the NBA. Is somebody running full speed and launching

0:50:07.880 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 1>themselves with a helmet at the jugular of a slot

0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.359
<v Speaker 1>receiver is different than somebody hitting somebody's arm really hard,

0:50:15.400 --> 0:50:18.360
<v Speaker 1>going up for a layup on a fast break, or

0:50:18.400 --> 0:50:21.879
<v Speaker 1>even hitting somebody mid air fast break. It's different. It's

0:50:22.080 --> 0:50:24.960
<v Speaker 1>much more violent, and so that's why there are levels

0:50:25.000 --> 0:50:28.160
<v Speaker 1>that sometimes somebody's just going for a block in an

0:50:28.239 --> 0:50:30.759
<v Speaker 1>NBA game and it just it gets it's too much

0:50:30.840 --> 0:50:32.279
<v Speaker 1>and you got to call it. But it's not worth

0:50:32.320 --> 0:50:37.440
<v Speaker 1>kicking them out. Football wise, we're talking knocking somebody out

0:50:37.719 --> 0:50:39.640
<v Speaker 1>cold and saying, well.

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:40.440
<v Speaker 2>It's fifty yarder.

0:50:41.520 --> 0:50:44.280
<v Speaker 1>The move is there to discourage that level of violence,

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.040
<v Speaker 1>and so what's to stop on a hail mary to

0:50:47.120 --> 0:50:52.120
<v Speaker 1>decide a game just tackling a receiver just using the

0:50:52.280 --> 0:50:55.440
<v Speaker 1>extreme level of targeting to make sure he doesn't come

0:50:55.440 --> 0:50:57.279
<v Speaker 1>down with it, because you know you're only gonna be

0:50:57.320 --> 0:50:59.200
<v Speaker 1>penalized fifteen yards and not kicked out of a game

0:50:59.239 --> 0:51:04.040
<v Speaker 1>that there's no actual serious repercussion or you're knocking you know,

0:51:04.760 --> 0:51:07.520
<v Speaker 1>DeVante Smith, you're only gonna get fifteen yards, And some

0:51:07.680 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 1>rogue safety says, well, I'm not getting kicked out of

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:12.799
<v Speaker 1>the game. I'm going to absolutely obliterate him in a

0:51:12.840 --> 0:51:15.719
<v Speaker 1>clearly illegal way and knock him out of the game. Well,

0:51:15.800 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>the I hear what you're saying, Like it doesn't. The

0:51:20.520 --> 0:51:23.640
<v Speaker 1>rule is there to discourage extreme levels of violence and

0:51:23.680 --> 0:51:25.919
<v Speaker 1>dirty plays. And I understand that kids are getting kicked

0:51:25.920 --> 0:51:28.480
<v Speaker 1>out of games because they make mistakes that are not dirty.

0:51:28.880 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>But then you're leaving it on referees who don't necessarily

0:51:32.040 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>have the best reputation to just decide something subjective that's

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:39.279
<v Speaker 1>going to change the tenor that's the entire ross's that's

0:51:39.280 --> 0:51:41.800
<v Speaker 1>the issue. I like the spirit of this idea. I

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:43.719
<v Speaker 1>think the spirit of this idea is right on.

0:51:44.000 --> 0:51:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Like what happened against James Skalsky and the justicelear start

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:53.000
<v Speaker 2>hit targeting by the rule that to me would qualify

0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:55.520
<v Speaker 2>as like the twenty yard penalty no ejection.

0:51:56.160 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>But isn't it also to protect him? It's to protect

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:01.520
<v Speaker 1>he put it m self in danger by lowering his

0:52:01.600 --> 0:52:02.120
<v Speaker 1>head like that.

0:52:02.160 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I like the spirit of this rule. I think the

0:52:05.040 --> 0:52:10.120
<v Speaker 2>hole if we're gonna poke it is you're leaving this

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 2>up to the opinion of the referees. What is blatant

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:20.439
<v Speaker 2>disregard versus what isn't And that's where you get into

0:52:20.440 --> 0:52:24.680
<v Speaker 2>that ugly gray territory. So next rule. Next rule.

0:52:24.719 --> 0:52:27.919
<v Speaker 1>Here you mentioned overtime starting from the forty that would

0:52:27.920 --> 0:52:29.640
<v Speaker 1>give us some long ass games.

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:37.200
<v Speaker 2>This one from Ken. Only the person who scores the

0:52:37.239 --> 0:52:39.000
<v Speaker 2>touchdown can kick the extra point.

0:52:41.400 --> 0:52:42.120
<v Speaker 1>It works for me.

0:52:42.280 --> 0:52:44.479
<v Speaker 2>I would marry this rule. I love this rule so much.

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>It absolutely works for me, especially because your mind immediately

0:52:50.560 --> 0:52:52.840
<v Speaker 1>goes to running backs or a tight end or a

0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback running in about whatever. There are touchdowns that involve

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:03.359
<v Speaker 1>defensive tackles is so good falling on the ball. There

0:53:03.360 --> 0:53:08.160
<v Speaker 1>are touchdowns involving an offensive lineman scooping up a fumble

0:53:08.200 --> 0:53:12.400
<v Speaker 1>at the two and running it in whatever. I think

0:53:12.719 --> 0:53:17.839
<v Speaker 1>large men kicking is an element to college football that

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:21.359
<v Speaker 1>we have not embraced enough. So yeah, this is all

0:53:21.400 --> 0:53:21.759
<v Speaker 1>for it.

0:53:22.120 --> 0:53:28.760
<v Speaker 2>This this has decided hack a shack feel to it. Okay, yeah,

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 2>I mean it's not a direct line of site, but

0:53:33.360 --> 0:53:39.560
<v Speaker 2>like there the notion that you would have a guy

0:53:39.640 --> 0:53:43.880
<v Speaker 2>like a DeVante Smith and your team who is awesome

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:50.720
<v Speaker 2>at creating in the open field, scoring touchdowns, being electric

0:53:50.760 --> 0:53:53.040
<v Speaker 2>on the field, and then just can't kick for crap

0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 2>exactly right. That to me is very interesting. I could say, like,

0:53:58.239 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 2>let's institute this rule in the NFL. Instead of moving

0:54:01.840 --> 0:54:05.440
<v Speaker 2>the kicks back, let's put it. Let's put it back

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.680
<v Speaker 2>to where it was before. It's eighteen nineteen yard kick,

0:54:09.360 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 2>and let's just whoever scores a touchdown gets to kick it.

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 2>I love what I mean.

0:54:13.600 --> 0:54:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Weren't there like way way back when, like quarterback slash punters.

0:54:19.200 --> 0:54:23.320
<v Speaker 1>I think Sammy bad Norm Van Brocklin. Yeah, so it

0:54:23.600 --> 0:54:29.400
<v Speaker 1>forces players to learn more skills. It also, let's say

0:54:30.080 --> 0:54:35.000
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota is playing Indiana. Minnesota is down twenty seven to twenty.

0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>Minnesota is on the one yard line with a few

0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:43.960
<v Speaker 1>seconds left. We're talking make or break, do or die

0:54:46.400 --> 0:54:51.160
<v Speaker 1>all of the sudden. PJ. Fleck has to decide down seven,

0:54:51.880 --> 0:54:55.000
<v Speaker 1>is it worth kicking an extra point after I score?

0:54:55.560 --> 0:55:00.160
<v Speaker 1>Perhaps with Tanner Morgan more going for two? Or you

0:55:00.239 --> 0:55:03.440
<v Speaker 1>or die go for two? Or you like a good wrinkle,

0:55:03.480 --> 0:55:06.440
<v Speaker 1>you like a good zag putting in his kicker at running.

0:55:06.200 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Back oh oh yeah, and have to.

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:15.160
<v Speaker 1>And just chance punching it in with a sneak or

0:55:15.200 --> 0:55:18.359
<v Speaker 1>a hand on your quarterback, right, I mean it's at

0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:22.080
<v Speaker 1>quarterback likely because why would you waste Everybody knows the

0:55:22.160 --> 0:55:23.560
<v Speaker 1>kicker is going to be getting the ball. But then

0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:25.160
<v Speaker 1>you also have a decoy element.

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 2>With the kicker. There. Can you put like an eye

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:29.480
<v Speaker 2>formation of kickers?

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:33.719
<v Speaker 1>You absolutely could. Yeah, all of a sudden, you have

0:55:33.800 --> 0:55:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to do end of game calculus in a way that

0:55:36.440 --> 0:55:40.279
<v Speaker 1>nobody thought possible. You have your punter, your kicker, your

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 1>backup kicker, your red shirting kicker in some sort of

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>crazy formation.

0:55:45.160 --> 0:55:48.000
<v Speaker 2>James Franklin would so screw this up. Yeah, of course

0:55:48.040 --> 0:55:48.360
<v Speaker 2>he would.

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:50.759
<v Speaker 1>I love this rule so much. So now you have

0:55:50.920 --> 0:55:58.280
<v Speaker 1>three choices. Chance Moe Ibrahim kicking the ball, chance giving

0:55:58.280 --> 0:56:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it to your kicker on the goal line to score,

0:56:01.760 --> 0:56:02.680
<v Speaker 1>or going for two in a.

0:56:02.719 --> 0:56:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Do or die.

0:56:04.719 --> 0:56:05.239
<v Speaker 1>Situation.

0:56:06.200 --> 0:56:08.680
<v Speaker 2>This is so good, I think. What are Ron Dane

0:56:08.719 --> 0:56:13.240
<v Speaker 2>scored something like seventy one touchdowns in his college career

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:18.440
<v Speaker 2>four years, obviously a storied career at Wisconsin. Of those

0:56:18.480 --> 0:56:23.080
<v Speaker 2>seventy one touchdowns, how many kicks does Ron Daye make? Well?

0:56:23.239 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Going in? Does Ron Dane know that he is going

0:56:26.640 --> 0:56:28.759
<v Speaker 1>like the summer before the or the summer when the

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:33.080
<v Speaker 1>rule is instituted, does he have to you know, does

0:56:33.120 --> 0:56:35.880
<v Speaker 1>he have the warning to kick five hundred extra points

0:56:35.880 --> 0:56:39.279
<v Speaker 1>that summer? Well, yeah, he's not thrust into it.

0:56:39.440 --> 0:56:41.440
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, it's not like it just happens in

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:43.719
<v Speaker 2>the first quarter and it's like, hey, Ron, we have

0:56:43.760 --> 0:56:46.560
<v Speaker 2>breaking news. He knows he can plan for it, he

0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:50.239
<v Speaker 2>can practice it. But of those seventy one attempts, how

0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:51.880
<v Speaker 2>many does Ron Daye make? Does he make more than

0:56:51.920 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 2>fifty percent?

0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:54.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes?

0:56:54.280 --> 0:56:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I think he does.

0:56:55.200 --> 0:56:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Now you're also talking about somebody who's taking a bunch

0:56:57.719 --> 0:56:59.400
<v Speaker 1>of hits, who's going to have tired legs at the

0:56:59.480 --> 0:57:01.840
<v Speaker 1>end of a year the way that kickers don't. Right,

0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:08.480
<v Speaker 1>So seventy one Ron day tremendous athlete. Could he learn

0:57:08.680 --> 0:57:12.279
<v Speaker 1>to make eighty percent of his point afters? So you're

0:57:12.280 --> 0:57:16.680
<v Speaker 1>talking about the timing of snap step step step, kick,

0:57:16.960 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>kick it high enough, kick it down the middle. You

0:57:18.760 --> 0:57:23.320
<v Speaker 1>probably have more blocks. You definitely have more blocks. You're

0:57:23.320 --> 0:57:26.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna have more shanky line drive situations that don't go

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:27.360
<v Speaker 1>anywhere near the uprights.

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:57:29.200 --> 0:57:33.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of those seventy one touchdowns, scored. I think if

0:57:33.800 --> 0:57:35.960
<v Speaker 1>he had a summer ahead of time.

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:38.720
<v Speaker 2>I say he makes fifty five of them.

0:57:38.840 --> 0:57:40.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's where I'm leaning. I don't know what that

0:57:40.400 --> 0:57:43.000
<v Speaker 1>number works out, two percentage wise, it's over fifty.

0:57:43.440 --> 0:57:44.480
<v Speaker 2>It's over fifty percent.

0:57:45.200 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>This.

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:47.360
<v Speaker 2>If I'm going to bat for any of the rules

0:57:48.360 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 2>that we have listed off here, this is the one

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:53.840
<v Speaker 2>I would love it. We have another one here. We're

0:57:53.880 --> 0:57:56.520
<v Speaker 2>running out of time and my voice is dying. Okay,

0:57:56.560 --> 0:57:58.760
<v Speaker 2>let's do two more. Yeah, we have a bunch of

0:57:58.800 --> 0:58:02.439
<v Speaker 2>the scheduling stuff. That couple of those. Yeah, I wanted

0:58:02.480 --> 0:58:04.920
<v Speaker 2>to talk about the one that talked about Where was

0:58:04.960 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 2>it about the on side kicks? Here we go, no

0:58:07.920 --> 0:58:10.240
<v Speaker 2>more overtime, starting at the twenty five yard line after

0:58:10.280 --> 0:58:12.760
<v Speaker 2>a coin toss. Start it with an on side kick

0:58:12.800 --> 0:58:16.120
<v Speaker 2>from the kicking team's forty. If the kicking team recovers

0:58:16.280 --> 0:58:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and scores the game and scores, the game ends. Repeat

0:58:19.360 --> 0:58:22.320
<v Speaker 2>until one team scores, recovers the kick, or holds their

0:58:22.360 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 2>opponent from answering. I love this rule. I think on

0:58:25.320 --> 0:58:29.120
<v Speaker 2>side kicks are only recovered like less than ten percent

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:33.160
<v Speaker 2>of the time. It's certainly less than twenty percent.

0:58:33.440 --> 0:58:37.880
<v Speaker 1>Also, a violent play, you just violid play, throwing haymakers

0:58:37.920 --> 0:58:39.960
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, don't worry about the safety.

0:58:40.520 --> 0:58:42.920
<v Speaker 2>Just forget about that, all right. But I like this

0:58:42.920 --> 0:58:46.320
<v Speaker 2>again as one of those wrinkles. It to include on

0:58:46.400 --> 0:58:48.680
<v Speaker 2>side kicks because on side kicks are fun. They rarely

0:58:48.720 --> 0:58:50.800
<v Speaker 2>work out, but they are fun to watch, So from

0:58:50.800 --> 0:58:53.280
<v Speaker 2>a fans perspective, there's a lot upside there.

0:58:54.120 --> 0:58:56.120
<v Speaker 1>I didn't put this one in there. Yeah, that doesn't

0:58:56.160 --> 0:58:58.120
<v Speaker 1>do as much for me. I didn't put this one

0:58:58.120 --> 0:59:02.360
<v Speaker 1>in there. Somebody suggested almost a shootout style after three overtimes.

0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:05.840
<v Speaker 1>It's just a kick does a kickoff? Kick versus no

0:59:05.960 --> 0:59:09.720
<v Speaker 1>kick versus yeah, kick off, not a kick a kickout.

0:59:09.760 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>Just keep out, moving back, key, moving back five or

0:59:12.600 --> 0:59:16.000
<v Speaker 1>ten yards at a time. It's not football deciding the game,

0:59:16.040 --> 0:59:18.480
<v Speaker 1>but neither is it in hockey really when you're just

0:59:18.560 --> 0:59:19.720
<v Speaker 1>doing a shootout or soccer.

0:59:19.880 --> 0:59:24.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's interesting. Give me like a quick scheduling one

0:59:25.000 --> 0:59:25.280
<v Speaker 2>or two.

0:59:25.880 --> 0:59:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so we have a lot of them. Well, first

0:59:28.240 --> 0:59:30.360
<v Speaker 1>of all, somebody said eliminate overtime, which I kind of love.

0:59:30.840 --> 0:59:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I kind of love that one because the system, Yeah

0:59:33.720 --> 0:59:35.080
<v Speaker 2>it's not the worst, not the worst.

0:59:35.120 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Does does the complexion of this past year change. If

0:59:38.440 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Notre Dame and Clemson in South Bend End in a tie,

0:59:43.000 --> 0:59:44.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't think it does. They're both still making the

0:59:44.960 --> 0:59:46.640
<v Speaker 1>playoff and ultimately losing.

0:59:47.560 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 2>So if Notre Dame doesn't beat Clemson the first time,

0:59:52.320 --> 0:59:55.080
<v Speaker 2>I think there's a chance that losing to Clemson in

0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:57.560
<v Speaker 2>the a SEC Championship game knocks them out of the playoff.

0:59:58.400 --> 1:00:00.920
<v Speaker 1>You think that would be enough to give A and

1:00:01.080 --> 1:00:03.360
<v Speaker 1>M the NOD hypothetical?

1:00:03.400 --> 1:00:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I think I think so hypothetically.

1:00:05.120 --> 1:00:08.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we have a lot of people calling for the

1:00:08.600 --> 1:00:11.880
<v Speaker 1>normalization of schedules, which I mixed on. I would be

1:00:11.920 --> 1:00:15.000
<v Speaker 1>okay with it if it meant pods Bill Connolly's system

1:00:15.120 --> 1:00:18.240
<v Speaker 1>by which teams and I'm definitely paraphrasing and shortening all

1:00:18.280 --> 1:00:21.960
<v Speaker 1>of this where you basically have three annual opponents in

1:00:22.000 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 1>your conference that you know have the most tradition and

1:00:26.080 --> 1:00:30.640
<v Speaker 1>zazz behind you know, Alabama would have Auburn, LSU, Tennessee, right,

1:00:30.720 --> 1:00:35.160
<v Speaker 1>and then everything else within the conference rotates and you

1:00:35.560 --> 1:00:38.320
<v Speaker 1>end up playing more teams more often. I love that

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:42.640
<v Speaker 1>you play eight games total within the conference. What people

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:46.440
<v Speaker 1>have suggested is based on that Coastal Carolina BYU game

1:00:47.200 --> 1:00:51.080
<v Speaker 1>is building in a flex week at some point we've

1:00:51.080 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 1>got a lot of these pitches building in a flex

1:00:53.440 --> 1:00:58.920
<v Speaker 1>week somewhere during the season and say player two or

1:00:58.960 --> 1:01:02.040
<v Speaker 1>three non conference games early, then halfway through the conference

1:01:02.080 --> 1:01:07.080
<v Speaker 1>part of the schedule you randomly play, or it's like

1:01:07.200 --> 1:01:11.080
<v Speaker 1>a select it's a thirty two team tournament the top

1:01:11.120 --> 1:01:14.280
<v Speaker 1>thirty two teams, or it's just a whatever. However many

1:01:14.320 --> 1:01:16.800
<v Speaker 1>teams EI. There's a Power five version, a G five version.

1:01:16.880 --> 1:01:19.880
<v Speaker 1>You have conference matchups Big ten, Pac twelve, and you

1:01:19.960 --> 1:01:23.640
<v Speaker 1>just you rank everybody and you have you have teams

1:01:23.680 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 1>play each other as sort of a challenge midyear to

1:01:26.760 --> 1:01:29.720
<v Speaker 1>say okay, and maybe you flop who gets to play

1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:32.280
<v Speaker 1>at home in certain years whatever, but you say, okay,

1:01:33.200 --> 1:01:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Alabama's number four and Oklahoma states number I'm doing my

1:01:39.040 --> 1:01:40.880
<v Speaker 1>math real quickly here that it's a four and a

1:01:41.000 --> 1:01:44.920
<v Speaker 1>thirteen or something like that in an NCAA tournament style

1:01:45.040 --> 1:01:47.360
<v Speaker 1>seed pairing, and they're just going to play each other

1:01:47.360 --> 1:01:52.640
<v Speaker 1>on October nineteenth and it's decided the week before. Yeah.

1:01:52.680 --> 1:02:01.600
<v Speaker 2>I like the real time scheduling flex scheduling twist because again,

1:02:02.320 --> 1:02:04.200
<v Speaker 2>like you could argue, the best game we saw a

1:02:04.280 --> 1:02:08.320
<v Speaker 2>year was BYU Coastal and that happened as I like

1:02:08.400 --> 1:02:11.960
<v Speaker 2>to say, sixty hours before kickoff. So anything that we

1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:16.160
<v Speaker 2>can do, especially from our standpoint, Dan, what do we

1:02:16.200 --> 1:02:20.400
<v Speaker 2>see as the year progresses? Inevitably the downloads go down

1:02:20.560 --> 1:02:23.439
<v Speaker 2>and Hm, I don't think it's because of the show

1:02:23.480 --> 1:02:25.640
<v Speaker 2>gets worse. I think it's because people lose interest. Their

1:02:25.640 --> 1:02:27.120
<v Speaker 2>teams are out of it, they don't have as much

1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:30.080
<v Speaker 2>reason to watch. If suddenly you give folks a reason

1:02:30.120 --> 1:02:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to watch in week twelve a game that we only

1:02:33.120 --> 1:02:37.000
<v Speaker 2>found out about a week prior or some period prior.

1:02:37.720 --> 1:02:41.560
<v Speaker 2>That's interesting. That injects new life into the sport. It

1:02:41.640 --> 1:02:44.040
<v Speaker 2>certainly makes it harder for something.

1:02:43.920 --> 1:02:45.240
<v Speaker 1>You mentioned the ticket market.

1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:48.160
<v Speaker 2>But the ticket market, like, there's so much upside there

1:02:48.400 --> 1:02:51.880
<v Speaker 2>from a fans perspective that I would want that absolutely.

1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:55.720
<v Speaker 1>Imagine being a season ticket holder and you see the schedule,

1:02:55.720 --> 1:02:57.520
<v Speaker 1>you see the like the Oregon schedule is you know,

1:02:57.680 --> 1:03:01.200
<v Speaker 1>cal and UCLA and Arizona State. But then right there

1:03:01.200 --> 1:03:03.360
<v Speaker 1>in late October wild Card.

1:03:03.560 --> 1:03:07.680
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well you could. I'm assuming charge much higher rates

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<v Speaker 2>for ticket prices if you've got a random Wildcard game

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<v Speaker 2>in there.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll think about the speculation involved in that ticket market.

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<v Speaker 1>Earlier on in the season, Obama coming Eugene.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I love this, I really love Let's let's

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<v Speaker 2>put our name behind this one as well, so we'll go,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll go.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you think anything needs to be done about

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<v Speaker 1>FCS scheduling. I've been all over the place with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't. I used to be staunchly anti FCS.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm. We've actually gotten some good FCS games over

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<v Speaker 2>the last couple of years. The overwhelming majority of them aren't,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, like it's good for the sport. We've

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<v Speaker 2>seen North Dakota State contend and win. It is a

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<v Speaker 2>good exception. They're an exception. It is good for the sport.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know, I'm I'm very mixed on it

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<v Speaker 2>as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the big loser in this is obviously the fan,

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<v Speaker 1>a fan playing paying to see a SOSO FCS opponent

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<v Speaker 1>take on a paycheck game, you know, traveling to wherever,

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<v Speaker 1>to Texas or to USC whatever. I know USC hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>played a lot of these games, but you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just an example of a team that would probably lay

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<v Speaker 1>waste to Northern Arizona or whatever. But it's good for

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<v Speaker 1>the sport and that it gets money in the lower

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<v Speaker 1>levels of the sport, and that's a positive thing. You

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<v Speaker 1>want football to be popular on all levels if you're

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<v Speaker 1>into the sport. Also, it's good for a team to

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<v Speaker 1>have that opening week to sort out some kinks. We

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<v Speaker 1>like to talk about the biggest improvement coming between week

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<v Speaker 1>one and week two. And I know people we have

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<v Speaker 1>some other ideas about scheduling. Okay, take all the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the top fifteen, the top twenty five teams from the

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<v Speaker 1>previous year, and schedule them all in Week one and

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<v Speaker 1>random matchups whatever. All of the sudden, we have a

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<v Speaker 1>Week one that should filled with TCU, Wisconsin and Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 1>Florida State and we just get all these like incredible

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<v Speaker 1>matchups week one. I don't love that because I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think teams are anywhere near where they're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>week one. So what I like is if we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have a normalized schedule, everybody in Week one gets

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<v Speaker 1>an FCS opponent, work through some kinks, money gets paid.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's good for the health of the sport. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>fans lose, but at the same time, you get to tailgate,

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<v Speaker 1>you get to go outside. It's still warm out everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's Okay, you get to watch college football, people

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<v Speaker 1>are still excited even if the game ends thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>to three. You're eating brought worst, you're with your buddies

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<v Speaker 1>in a normal year. I think it's okay. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we can get over it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's close out with this one from Ryan. Okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>think this is something everyone can agree on. No clock

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<v Speaker 2>stoppage after first downs except for the last two minutes

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<v Speaker 2>of each half, because we need to try and keep

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<v Speaker 2>game times closer to three hours. Some games drag on forever.

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<v Speaker 2>Can we just do this one by unanimous consent?

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<v Speaker 1>Dan, Yeah, I mean, this doesn't really change anything about

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<v Speaker 1>the game, It just makes it shorter by keeping the

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<v Speaker 1>clock going. I think I'm okay with it. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I generally speaking, the games that get really out of

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<v Speaker 1>hand are the ones on you know, the CBS games,

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<v Speaker 1>because they go to commercial every few minutes. It has

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<v Speaker 1>nothing as much to do with the first down clock

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<v Speaker 1>as its much as it's like, Okay, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>punt right there, there was a first down play and

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<v Speaker 1>it went out abound, right, you need that, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>very much. I think I'm alright with this one. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's also the air raid games it's when we had

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<v Speaker 1>those Sunny Dykes Mike Leach games out West that went

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half hours because of all the passes

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<v Speaker 1>and you guys going out of bounds or in complete passes, whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think I'm okay with this game. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it would appreciate I don't think it would change

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<v Speaker 1>the way the rhythm of a game in an appreciative way.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think it would change the game that much.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think think it would be a much better

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<v Speaker 2>fan experience, much better fan experience because some of these games.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right, come on, you.

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<v Speaker 1>Want you want to maddox these games. You just want

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<v Speaker 1>to Let's keep it roll. Let's keep it roll.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's streamline this stuff. Man. You know it's if you're

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<v Speaker 2>down twenty, you're probably not gonna win. Let's go, let's

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<v Speaker 2>keep this, Let's get this show in the road.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I don't know if there was any I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking through here. I don't know if it was any

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<v Speaker 1>we have like the bracketbus ideas oh Davis says, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the final one. The spring games should be scrimmages.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't need to be against huge teams, but make

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<v Speaker 1>it like a preseason game. Plenty of high schools do

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<v Speaker 1>it. It would increase viewership and attendance.

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<v Speaker 2>What do they when they vote?

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe this is the FCS match but no, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Know when they vote in like the Senate or Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>What is it? I I when they agree nay, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>can we just go?

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<v Speaker 1>And a who we just go?

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<v Speaker 2>I on this one too.

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<v Speaker 1>So the reason you do it is because you get

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<v Speaker 1>a real game in the spring. It's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>nice little treat. It's a friendly, right, It's it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have you know, it doesn't have the stakes of a

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<v Speaker 1>regular season game, but it's still the sport. The reason

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<v Speaker 1>why I don't think it would be fully successful is

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<v Speaker 1>why would you try play Trevor Lawrence in a late

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<v Speaker 1>April game if you're colepsing, it's not going towards your record.

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<v Speaker 1>It's fun to see early enrollees and red shirts and

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<v Speaker 1>those types of people, but.

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<v Speaker 2>You're you're assuming that the friendly is going to have

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<v Speaker 2>normal football rules. What if you can't hit the quarterback?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what if it's essentially spring football but you're

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<v Speaker 2>protecting What.

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<v Speaker 1>If overtimes consists of only on side kicks?

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<v Speaker 2>What if punts cost one point. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I was going to say, you risk somebody, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>an outside linebacker, tearing their acl but that spring practice anyway. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>So as long as as long as you've got some

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<v Speaker 2>protections in place here to make sure that these guys

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<v Speaker 2>aren't out drilling each other and you're hurting your top talent,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see why you can do it.

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<v Speaker 1>So the only reason why I think teams wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>into it is I don't think guys are in game

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<v Speaker 1>shape during the spring like there they go through winter conditioning.

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<v Speaker 1>I think spring is a lot more for seeing what

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<v Speaker 1>you have depth wise, installing new systems, getting new coaches ready,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just it's shaking off some rust. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily getting guys game ready. And so that's that

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<v Speaker 1>could be the issue where it's sort of counterintuitive to

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<v Speaker 1>what spring football actually is. It's a series of practices

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<v Speaker 1>for the sake of practice, not for the sake of

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<v Speaker 1>preparing for a game. Fall camp is very different from

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<v Speaker 1>spring camp. So that's that's the only reason why not.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess they are scrimmaging at the end and

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<v Speaker 1>if everybody's on the same playing field, But man, then

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're rarely talking about installing a new fall camp

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<v Speaker 1>in the spring.

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<v Speaker 2>At that point, I'm okay with this. I'm totally okay

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<v Speaker 2>with this, But.

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<v Speaker 1>I would understand why they're not, but I would be going.

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<v Speaker 1>But especially if we are talking about, say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a Scout team red shirt. You know it's guys wearing

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<v Speaker 1>the uniform, it's guys that are contributors. But you know

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get a bunch of guys sitting and maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're playing a D two school, local D two school,

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<v Speaker 1>a way to get some money to other schools in

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<v Speaker 1>the area. Oregon's playing willam At College. Shippensburg football has

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<v Speaker 1>taken on Penn State and State.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, now that we've got Mike Rsich, that's obvious Shippensburg connection.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I think I'm okay with it. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I it would be very strange to May still.

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I don't think we've talked about like

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<v Speaker 2>your sitch taking over for.

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<v Speaker 1>Replacing Kirk Shrock.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, kind of came out of the blue. Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I really didn't anticipate all sorts of crazy changes

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<v Speaker 1>to coaching staffs, which just shows how dumb I am,

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it obviously didn't work out. We don't know

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<v Speaker 1>the nature of what occurred in the Penn State Football

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<v Speaker 1>office and whether or not people got along or didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But no, apparently James Franklin wanted to hire Mike You're

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<v Speaker 1>Sick last year and got beaten out by Texas and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Herman. So took advantage of his opportunity. Got a

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<v Speaker 1>local smart football mind. And I think he played in

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<v Speaker 1>PA as well. Right, yeah, I think he played college

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<v Speaker 1>football there. He's a PA dude.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for Penn State. I hope it works out for him.

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<v Speaker 2>said at the top, two episodes a week for the

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<v Speaker 2>foreseeable future. At some point in July, will scale back

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<v Speaker 2>up to three to get you ready for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>But for the time being, catching her breath, letting her voices, heal,

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<v Speaker 2>getting back on the horse every Tuesday Thursday.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the sky, sir, simple as that.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay warm out there, a right, man.

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<v Speaker 1>I woke up and it said negative zero on my

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what that means.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a singular. You're in the singularity Yeah, isn't there

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<v Speaker 2>for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubenstein,

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<v Speaker 2>for myself, Tie Hill, the brand. We will talk to

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<v Speaker 2>y'all next week. In the meantime, stay safe, stay healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>stay happy, enjoy your weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>Stay soft, please,