Speaker 1: To Charlamagne to God, here's a Doncy's.
Speaker 2: Oh man, Charlamagne, you've given donkey of the day to who.
Speaker 3: Now well buster rhymes donkey of today for Wednesday, February
Speaker 3: twenty six goals to Shawn Simpson. Sean Simpson is a
Speaker 3: sixteen year old North Carolina teenager who broke down in
Speaker 3: tears in court after being charged as an adult for murder.
Speaker 3: Let's go to fix to forty six for the report.
Speaker 1: Please.
Speaker 4: Sean Simpson came into Gaston County Court at points, wiping
Speaker 4: away his tears as he stood before a judge. Just
Speaker 4: sixteen years old. He's being charged with first green murder
Speaker 4: as an adult. That's as a result of a law
Speaker 4: change that wenting to effect in the Zimber, which allows
Speaker 4: teens his age to be charged as an adult in
Speaker 4: certain crimes. There is a realization that during this proceeding
Speaker 4: that the gravity was hitting him a grand jury in
Speaker 4: Diamond that could come in the near future, and the
Speaker 4: moment that hit when a judge told him that he
Speaker 4: would not be seeing freedom anytime soon.
Speaker 3: Court made as a hold without on court finals fishing
Speaker 3: allegations support.
Speaker 4: Charging concert was something that Sequatius Dawkins's family says they
Speaker 4: needed to be here for Simpson, accused of killing Dawk
Speaker 4: at Sunday night a long Chester Street. Simpson also accused
Speaker 4: with attempted first screen murder involving another victim. Dawkin's family
Speaker 4: says he was going to get medical supplies for his
Speaker 4: mother when he was killed.
Speaker 3: I would say this is a teachable moment, but I've
Speaker 3: been alive forty six years and I haven't seen too
Speaker 3: many of you learn yet. Okay, all of these are
Speaker 3: rerun Sadly, I don't understand why we aren't breaking this cycle.
Speaker 3: I don't understand why we aren't learning. I mean, truthfully,
Speaker 3: this is me at sixteen or seventeen. Of course I
Speaker 3: never killed anyone, but I've been in dumb ass situations
Speaker 3: like this. When I was sixteen or seventeen, I went
Speaker 3: to jail for a Sultan Barridy would intend to kill. Okay,
Speaker 3: the charge got changed, the point in presenting a firearm.
Speaker 3: But I was literally just in the backseat of a
Speaker 3: car and one of my homieshot at another car.
Speaker 2: Just dumb and young and reckless.
Speaker 3: Wasn't about nothing, just teenage kids who don't really know
Speaker 3: any better. I wrote about it and my first book,
Speaker 3: Black Privilege. Opportunity comes to those who created. And the
Speaker 3: reason I'm telling this story is because when my homie shot,
Speaker 3: there was three.
Speaker 1: People in the car.
Speaker 3: The bullet hit the headrest of de seit nobody was
Speaker 3: sitting in the empty seat behind the passenger seat.
Speaker 2: But what if that seat wasn't empty?
Speaker 3: Then I go to jail for assessory to murder unless
Speaker 3: I snitched, which I probably would have. My point is,
Speaker 3: trouble is easy to get into and hard to get
Speaker 3: out of, and none of us have the timestone from
Speaker 3: the Marvel Cinematic universe. Okay, the timestone allows to use
Speaker 3: it to control time. You can rewind, fast forward, travel
Speaker 3: through time. When you see this young man, Sean Simpson
Speaker 3: break down like that in court, don't you think he
Speaker 3: wouish he had a timestone so he could rewind the
Speaker 3: time and not do what he did.
Speaker 2: Of course he would, of course.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sean and the young man he killed, the Equavius Dawkins,
Speaker 3: had a fight, according to People Magazine the previous year
Speaker 3: at Ashbrook High School. I don't know who won to fight,
Speaker 3: but it clearly wasn't Sean. And guess what kids. You
Speaker 3: got to learn to take an ass with it, okay,
Speaker 3: because these are just all hypotheticals I'm about to spew.
Speaker 3: But if you fight, get your ass with even if
Speaker 3: it goes viral. So what, Okay, when anger rises, think
Speaker 3: of the consequences. Would you rather go viral because you
Speaker 3: got your ass beating in school? Or would you rather
Speaker 3: go viral because you in the courtroom getting charged with murder?
Speaker 3: And then when you get charged with murder, you looking
Speaker 3: like Simbols screaming, screaming out after Mufossa got trampled by
Speaker 3: the wilderbeace. Okay, this is exactly what Simba felt in
Speaker 3: that moment, a mix of shock, grief, and disbelief.
Speaker 2: But the grief you.
Speaker 3: Feel spending the rest of your life in jail because
Speaker 3: you getting charged as an adult isn't the same as
Speaker 3: the grief as Equavi as his mother feels. So I
Speaker 3: don't feel bad for you, Okay. I'm sad about the
Speaker 3: situation because two young black men aren't going to have
Speaker 3: a future in society.
Speaker 1: You know, keeps failing these young men.
Speaker 3: I read that Sean is being held in the Gaston
Speaker 3: Adolescent Center, where he has been undergoing treatment Okay. The
Speaker 3: center treats children and adolescents that have significant emotional and
Speaker 3: behavioral difficulties. Now, I'm not the highest grade weed in
Speaker 3: the dispensary, but why wasn't he getting this treatment before
Speaker 3: he committed a murder?
Speaker 1: I guess I still to say allegedly, but allegedly, Okay.
Speaker 3: There had to be signs, There had to be some
Speaker 3: type of disciplinary issues at home and in school, but.
Speaker 1: Those signs were clearly ignored.
Speaker 3: But of course we don't get people help and tell
Speaker 3: us way too late. And that's what I'm sad about. Okay,
Speaker 3: these things could be prevented. But I don't feel bad
Speaker 3: for Sean. Okay, because the Equavius was walking to a
Speaker 3: store to buy items for his disabled mother, and that's
Speaker 3: when Sean sat him. That's when Seawan shot them. Okay, listen,
Speaker 3: let me read what it says. Okay, this, this is
Speaker 3: what it says happened in People magazine. I'm gonna read this,
Speaker 3: and you tell me what movie. This sounds like the
Speaker 3: Equavius and his friend walking the family dollar to get
Speaker 3: items for Equavius his mother. A black tesla drives past,
Speaker 3: and a boy in the backseat identified as Sean Simpson
Speaker 3: shot something out the window, the Quavius and his friend
Speaker 3: began to run. When the car returns again, Sean Simpson
Speaker 3: allegedly starts shooting from the back and that's how Poors
Speaker 3: Equavius got shot and killed.
Speaker 1: What movie? Does that sound like? Boys in the Day?
Speaker 1: But this ain't no movie? Dog? Okay?
Speaker 3: Is Equavius is dead for real because Sean Simpson made
Speaker 3: a choice that he is clearly now regretting and that
Speaker 3: he clearly can't change.
Speaker 1: And destiny is not a matter of chance. It's always
Speaker 1: a matter of choice.
Speaker 3: And I'm sad that Sean Simpson didn't make a better choice.
Speaker 3: But I'm not moved by Sean Simpson's tears. I'm not
Speaker 3: moved by his outbursting court. You know why, because I
Speaker 3: know it's Equavius Dawkin's mother is crying way harder than
Speaker 3: Sean ever will. Okay, there's a quote, and the quote
Speaker 3: is everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 3: they have to pay for them for the rest of
Speaker 3: their life. Kids, I want to tell y'all that quote
Speaker 3: is a lie. Okay, Yes, everyone makes mistakes in life,
Speaker 3: and depending what that mistake is, you will probably pay
Speaker 3: for it for the rest of your life literally, and
Speaker 3: first degree murder in North Carolina, there is absolutely a
Speaker 3: life sentence. Please give Sean Simpson the biggest he huh,
Speaker 3: sixteen years old man, sixteen, sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: That's crazy.
Speaker 2: But for me, it was him breaking down realizing what
Speaker 2: it is like you know too late.
Speaker 5: No, it is you know you out here trying to
Speaker 5: be a y n about to go.
Speaker 1: To jail and be a yba.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I don't.
Speaker 5: I do not be feeling sorry for like yo, come on,
Speaker 5: like that little boy not here no more. This was
Speaker 5: all because you you couldn't just fight him, You couldn't
Speaker 5: just keep fighting him.
Speaker 2: Just that.
Speaker 5: And I used to be back in the day before
Speaker 5: you go get a gun, you keep fighting until you
Speaker 5: win or whatever.
Speaker 3: Just well, I mean people used to come back blasting too,
Speaker 3: we said, we used to say the same thing back
Speaker 3: to the day.
Speaker 2: I think now it's heightened because it's recorded and it
Speaker 2: goes viral. Not a world sees it opposed to just
Speaker 2: your hood. Yeah, but it happens often, like almost happened.
Speaker 2: It happens a lot.
Speaker 6: It was like guns are more accessible, yeah, like like
Speaker 6: what was at a higher rate, right, because growing up
Speaker 6: you probably only well, I I'm from New York. Country
Speaker 6: is a lot different, but you might have only known
Speaker 6: one person with a gun, yeah, or maybe two people.
Speaker 2: What you was scared, yo, honestly because we didn't have guns.
Speaker 6: And then if in New York, you would automatically get
Speaker 6: I think it's two years or three years in prison
Speaker 6: if you were found.
Speaker 2: With a gun.
Speaker 1: So I'm forty six years old. Gun violence has been
Speaker 1: going on at the time, but I didn't know.
Speaker 6: Now it seems like every kid has a gun, like, like,
Speaker 6: not just small guns, I mean AARs, I mean shotguns.
Speaker 1: I means.
Speaker 2: Just like you, something like a little different, like this
Speaker 2: is a new conversation. No, we're not acting like this
Speaker 2: is a new conversation. Conversation, don't have the same.
Speaker 3: No, No, been going on since the beginning of time
Speaker 3: and even and by the way, I just mentioned wanting
Speaker 3: Tovie boys in the hood, right, this is the same
Speaker 3: scenario for minutes of society.
Speaker 2: Society dude get beat up and he comes back blasting.
Speaker 3: This is life, sadly, Yeah, and that's why I said
Speaker 3: the cycle doesn't ever break. This has been going on
Speaker 3: for a long long time. I'm not gonna sit here
Speaker 3: and tell that lie. Like you know, gun violence has
Speaker 3: not been prevalent for a long time.
Speaker 2: It has been. It seems like it's gotten worse in
Speaker 2: the last last couple of years.
Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's just when somebody who's got a different opinion
Speaker 5: respected and shut out.
Speaker 3: Maybe we just care more because we're adults now, because
Speaker 3: think about it, when you were when we was young,
Speaker 3: we used to glorify it. We was young, you kind
Speaker 3: of used to celebrate it a lot. Right, That's just
Speaker 3: the fact.
Speaker 6: That let's open up the phone lines about this kid.
Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five to one.
Speaker 6: Do you feel bad for this kid? He's sixteen years old,
Speaker 6: he allegedly shot two teams. He's not going to be
Speaker 6: charged as a child, He's going to be charged as
Speaker 6: an adult. He broke down and caught yesterday crying, so
Speaker 6: you can tell where his mind frame is.
Speaker 2: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one.
Speaker 6: Let's discuss, Yeah, let's discuss. You feel sympathy. Do you
Speaker 6: feel sad for this young man?
Speaker 3: Something was sad for the situation of the cycle that
Speaker 3: never seems to the end.
Speaker 2: I'm sad for the little boy. Mother my head's that's
Speaker 2: part of the cycles. Listen, but that's that's who I'm
Speaker 2: I'm said for.
Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. We'll take phone calls, we'll talk
Speaker 6: about it and the death when we come back.
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