1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: To Charlamagne to God, here's a Doncy's. 2 00:00:05,640 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 2: Oh man, Charlamagne, you've given donkey of the day to who. 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 3: Now well buster rhymes donkey of today for Wednesday, February 4 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: twenty six goals to Shawn Simpson. Sean Simpson is a 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,319 Speaker 3: sixteen year old North Carolina teenager who broke down in 6 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 3: tears in court after being charged as an adult for murder. 7 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 3: Let's go to fix to forty six for the report. 8 00:00:25,880 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: Please. 9 00:00:26,800 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 4: Sean Simpson came into Gaston County Court at points, wiping 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 4: away his tears as he stood before a judge. Just 11 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 4: sixteen years old. He's being charged with first green murder 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: as an adult. That's as a result of a law 13 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 4: change that wenting to effect in the Zimber, which allows 14 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 4: teens his age to be charged as an adult in 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 4: certain crimes. There is a realization that during this proceeding 16 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 4: that the gravity was hitting him a grand jury in 17 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 4: Diamond that could come in the near future, and the 18 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 4: moment that hit when a judge told him that he 19 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 4: would not be seeing freedom anytime soon. 20 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 3: Court made as a hold without on court finals fishing 21 00:00:58,200 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 3: allegations support. 22 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 4: Charging concert was something that Sequatius Dawkins's family says they 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: needed to be here for Simpson, accused of killing Dawk 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 4: at Sunday night a long Chester Street. Simpson also accused 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 4: with attempted first screen murder involving another victim. Dawkin's family 26 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: says he was going to get medical supplies for his 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:20,919 Speaker 4: mother when he was killed. 28 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: I would say this is a teachable moment, but I've 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 3: been alive forty six years and I haven't seen too 30 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: many of you learn yet. Okay, all of these are 31 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 3: rerun Sadly, I don't understand why we aren't breaking this cycle. 32 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 3: I don't understand why we aren't learning. I mean, truthfully, 33 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 3: this is me at sixteen or seventeen. Of course I 34 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: never killed anyone, but I've been in dumb ass situations 35 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 3: like this. When I was sixteen or seventeen, I went 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 3: to jail for a Sultan Barridy would intend to kill. Okay, 37 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: the charge got changed, the point in presenting a firearm. 38 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 3: But I was literally just in the backseat of a 39 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 3: car and one of my homieshot at another car. 40 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 2: Just dumb and young and reckless. 41 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 3: Wasn't about nothing, just teenage kids who don't really know 42 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 3: any better. I wrote about it and my first book, 43 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: Black Privilege. Opportunity comes to those who created. And the 44 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: reason I'm telling this story is because when my homie shot, 45 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 3: there was three. 46 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: People in the car. 47 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 3: The bullet hit the headrest of de seit nobody was 48 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: sitting in the empty seat behind the passenger seat. 49 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 2: But what if that seat wasn't empty? 50 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 3: Then I go to jail for assessory to murder unless 51 00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 3: I snitched, which I probably would have. My point is, 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 3: trouble is easy to get into and hard to get 53 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:20,119 Speaker 3: out of, and none of us have the timestone from 54 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: the Marvel Cinematic universe. Okay, the timestone allows to use 55 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: it to control time. You can rewind, fast forward, travel 56 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 3: through time. When you see this young man, Sean Simpson 57 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,239 Speaker 3: break down like that in court, don't you think he 58 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 3: wouish he had a timestone so he could rewind the 59 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:36,640 Speaker 3: time and not do what he did. 60 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 2: Of course he would, of course. 61 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 3: Okay, Sean and the young man he killed, the Equavius Dawkins, 62 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 3: had a fight, according to People Magazine the previous year 63 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 3: at Ashbrook High School. I don't know who won to fight, 64 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: but it clearly wasn't Sean. And guess what kids. You 65 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 3: got to learn to take an ass with it, okay, 66 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: because these are just all hypotheticals I'm about to spew. 67 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 3: But if you fight, get your ass with even if 68 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 3: it goes viral. So what, Okay, when anger rises, think 69 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: of the consequences. Would you rather go viral because you 70 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 3: got your ass beating in school? Or would you rather 71 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 3: go viral because you in the courtroom getting charged with murder? 72 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: And then when you get charged with murder, you looking 73 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 3: like Simbols screaming, screaming out after Mufossa got trampled by 74 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 3: the wilderbeace. Okay, this is exactly what Simba felt in 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: that moment, a mix of shock, grief, and disbelief. 76 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: But the grief you. 77 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 3: Feel spending the rest of your life in jail because 78 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 3: you getting charged as an adult isn't the same as 79 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 3: the grief as Equavi as his mother feels. So I 80 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 3: don't feel bad for you, Okay. I'm sad about the 81 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 3: situation because two young black men aren't going to have 82 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 3: a future in society. 83 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: You know, keeps failing these young men. 84 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: I read that Sean is being held in the Gaston 85 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: Adolescent Center, where he has been undergoing treatment Okay. The 86 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 3: center treats children and adolescents that have significant emotional and 87 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 3: behavioral difficulties. Now, I'm not the highest grade weed in 88 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 3: the dispensary, but why wasn't he getting this treatment before 89 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: he committed a murder? 90 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: I guess I still to say allegedly, but allegedly, Okay. 91 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: There had to be signs, There had to be some 92 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 3: type of disciplinary issues at home and in school, but. 93 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Those signs were clearly ignored. 94 00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 3: But of course we don't get people help and tell 95 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: us way too late. And that's what I'm sad about. Okay, 96 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: these things could be prevented. But I don't feel bad 97 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:20,159 Speaker 3: for Sean. Okay, because the Equavius was walking to a 98 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: store to buy items for his disabled mother, and that's 99 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 3: when Sean sat him. That's when Seawan shot them. Okay, listen, 100 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: let me read what it says. Okay, this, this is 101 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 3: what it says happened in People magazine. I'm gonna read this, 102 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 3: and you tell me what movie. This sounds like the 103 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: Equavius and his friend walking the family dollar to get 104 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 3: items for Equavius his mother. A black tesla drives past, 105 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,480 Speaker 3: and a boy in the backseat identified as Sean Simpson 106 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 3: shot something out the window, the Quavius and his friend 107 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: began to run. When the car returns again, Sean Simpson 108 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 3: allegedly starts shooting from the back and that's how Poors 109 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 3: Equavius got shot and killed. 110 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: What movie? Does that sound like? Boys in the Day? 111 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: But this ain't no movie? Dog? Okay? 112 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 3: Is Equavius is dead for real because Sean Simpson made 113 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 3: a choice that he is clearly now regretting and that 114 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 3: he clearly can't change. 115 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: And destiny is not a matter of chance. It's always 116 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: a matter of choice. 117 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 3: And I'm sad that Sean Simpson didn't make a better choice. 118 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 3: But I'm not moved by Sean Simpson's tears. I'm not 119 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 3: moved by his outbursting court. You know why, because I 120 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 3: know it's Equavius Dawkin's mother is crying way harder than 121 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 3: Sean ever will. Okay, there's a quote, and the quote 122 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 3: is everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean 123 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: they have to pay for them for the rest of 124 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 3: their life. Kids, I want to tell y'all that quote 125 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 3: is a lie. Okay, Yes, everyone makes mistakes in life, 126 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: and depending what that mistake is, you will probably pay 127 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,920 Speaker 3: for it for the rest of your life literally, and 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 3: first degree murder in North Carolina, there is absolutely a 129 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: life sentence. Please give Sean Simpson the biggest he huh, 130 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 3: sixteen years old man, sixteen, sixteen years old. 131 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: That's crazy. 132 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: But for me, it was him breaking down realizing what 133 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: it is like you know too late. 134 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: No, it is you know you out here trying to 135 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 5: be a y n about to go. 136 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: To jail and be a yba. 137 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, I don't. 138 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 5: I do not be feeling sorry for like yo, come on, 139 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 5: like that little boy not here no more. This was 140 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 5: all because you you couldn't just fight him, You couldn't 141 00:06:27,200 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 5: just keep fighting him. 142 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: Just that. 143 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 5: And I used to be back in the day before 144 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 5: you go get a gun, you keep fighting until you 145 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 5: win or whatever. 146 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: Just well, I mean people used to come back blasting too, 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 3: we said, we used to say the same thing back 148 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 3: to the day. 149 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: I think now it's heightened because it's recorded and it 150 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 2: goes viral. Not a world sees it opposed to just 151 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:46,279 Speaker 2: your hood. Yeah, but it happens often, like almost happened. 152 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: It happens a lot. 153 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 6: It was like guns are more accessible, yeah, like like 154 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 6: what was at a higher rate, right, because growing up 155 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 6: you probably only well, I I'm from New York. Country 156 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 6: is a lot different, but you might have only known 157 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 6: one person with a gun, yeah, or maybe two people. 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 2: What you was scared, yo, honestly because we didn't have guns. 159 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 6: And then if in New York, you would automatically get 160 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 6: I think it's two years or three years in prison 161 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 6: if you were found. 162 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 2: With a gun. 163 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: So I'm forty six years old. Gun violence has been 164 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: going on at the time, but I didn't know. 165 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 6: Now it seems like every kid has a gun, like, like, 166 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 6: not just small guns, I mean AARs, I mean shotguns. 167 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: I means. 168 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 2: Just like you, something like a little different, like this 169 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: is a new conversation. No, we're not acting like this 170 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: is a new conversation. Conversation, don't have the same. 171 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 3: No, No, been going on since the beginning of time 172 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 3: and even and by the way, I just mentioned wanting 173 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: Tovie boys in the hood, right, this is the same 174 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 3: scenario for minutes of society. 175 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: Society dude get beat up and he comes back blasting. 176 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: This is life, sadly, Yeah, and that's why I said 177 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: the cycle doesn't ever break. This has been going on 178 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: for a long long time. I'm not gonna sit here 179 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: and tell that lie. Like you know, gun violence has 180 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 3: not been prevalent for a long time. 181 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 2: It has been. It seems like it's gotten worse in 182 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 2: the last last couple of years. 183 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 5: Absolutely, it's just when somebody who's got a different opinion 184 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 5: respected and shut out. 185 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: Maybe we just care more because we're adults now, because 186 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 3: think about it, when you were when we was young, 187 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 3: we used to glorify it. We was young, you kind 188 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 3: of used to celebrate it a lot. Right, That's just 189 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: the fact. 190 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 6: That let's open up the phone lines about this kid. 191 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 6: Eight hundred five eight five, one oh five to one. 192 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 6: Do you feel bad for this kid? He's sixteen years old, 193 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 6: he allegedly shot two teams. He's not going to be 194 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 6: charged as a child, He's going to be charged as 195 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 6: an adult. He broke down and caught yesterday crying, so 196 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 6: you can tell where his mind frame is. 197 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: Eight hundred five eight five one oh five one. 198 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 6: Let's discuss, Yeah, let's discuss. You feel sympathy. Do you 199 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 6: feel sad for this young man? 200 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 3: Something was sad for the situation of the cycle that 201 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 3: never seems to the end. 202 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 2: I'm sad for the little boy. Mother my head's that's 203 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,839 Speaker 2: part of the cycles. Listen, but that's that's who I'm 204 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 2: I'm said for. 205 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 6: Let's talk about it. 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