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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. Here at the podcast,

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Speaker 1: we are all grateful every single day to our veterans

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Speaker 1: and our service members, and today we want to talk

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Speaker 1: about an organization that works with our veterans and wounded

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Speaker 1: warriors who are having trouble coming back home and leaving

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Speaker 1: the war behind. I had the pleasure of meeting my

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Speaker 1: guest today this past weekend, and I know you're going

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Speaker 1: to love his passion for healing our veterans. I think

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Speaker 1: oftentimes we wonder how we can show how thankful we are.

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of times we will stop folks

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Speaker 1: and say, hey, we're really grateful for your sacrifice, We're

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Speaker 1: really grateful for your service. But this organization we're going

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Speaker 1: to talk to today, they're doing such great work toward

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Speaker 1: healing and helping these folks. So I think this is

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Speaker 1: an opportunity for us to kind of spread the word

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Speaker 1: that there is something that can be done. We oftentimes

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Speaker 1: what I heard this past weekend is just such an

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Speaker 1: I want to welcome in Johnny Walker to the podcast.

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Speaker 1: He is retired from the US Army and now serves

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Speaker 1: as a board member at Special Operations Wounded Warrior, also

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Speaker 1: known as SAO, and the Senior Advisor and Director for

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Speaker 1: Special Mission Solutions at Republic Mission Systems. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for being on.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, ma'am. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: I heard what you guys were talking about this weekend

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Speaker 1: and we had a chance to talk a little bit too.

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Speaker 1: It really struck me because I had just spoken to

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Speaker 1: someone a few weeks ago, and I told you this

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Speaker 1: story about a gentleman who came home and he's been

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Speaker 1: really struggling, and this was kind of what you described

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Speaker 1: to me. That you come home and you've been sent

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Speaker 1: off on a mission. In your mission is war and

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Speaker 1: it's really hard to turn that off. And I think

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Speaker 1: for those of us who have never served, I've never

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Speaker 1: heard it put the way that you talked about it,

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Speaker 1: and I was wondering if you could just talk a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, you know, when you initially joined

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Speaker 2: the military really just takes you from a person from

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Speaker 2: in your military career. So when you leave. So like

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Speaker 2: my experience, you know, I was not a troubled youth.

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Speaker 2: So when I joined the military, I really didn't, you know,

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Speaker 2: But in the military, they teach you that. So they

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Speaker 2: you have to find someone that can fix those. But

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Speaker 2: where do you go to get that direction and that purpose?

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Speaker 2: You don't know? Those questions sows the term yesterday, you know,

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Speaker 1: And we talked to you were really specific about we

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Speaker 2: So what nineteen and twenty five year old makes good decisions?

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Speaker 2: You know, a buddy of mine that I've known him

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Speaker 1: But you made this point that when you come home,

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Speaker 2: I usually when I talk to folks, I asked the audience,

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Speaker 2: you know, how many people are either being in the

433
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Speaker 2: military or family were reserved, and so sixty percent of

434
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Speaker 2: the audience raise your hands. So but again it goes

435
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Speaker 2: back to my son left. You see gold star parents

436
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,240
Speaker 2: all the time. Well, that one person that passes away

437
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Speaker 2: or commits suicide, it affects the entire family structure. It's

438
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Speaker 2: not just hey, my wife. You know I left my wife,

439
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Speaker 2: I left my children. You're affecting friends, family and everything.

440
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Speaker 2: So that's why we talked about the resiliency to five fs.

441
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Speaker 2: You know, fitness, how are you doing with your health?

442
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Speaker 2: You know I do that too. I take that every day.

443
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 2: You have to make sure that your finances are good.

444
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Speaker 2: So if you upset one of those fs, whether it's faith, family, friends,

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Speaker 2: or fitness or financial freedom, you have problems. Those are

446
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Speaker 2: the stressors that come up on board. And so where

447
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 2: sal really does a good job with really good organizations

448
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 2: like Task Force Dagger, you know, Warrior's Heart. You know,

449
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,080
Speaker 2: most of some of these guys that do the Marine

450
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Speaker 2: Corps thing, all these organizations are intertwined. So my job

451
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Speaker 2: is to make sure we all talk right. So we

452
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Speaker 2: just did this Operate Reset week at Indian Rocks Beach

453
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Speaker 2: and we had a marine and he's from California, and

454
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Speaker 2: he was just like totally, you know, no, I can't

455
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Speaker 2: get anything done. No one's going to help me do anything.

456
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Speaker 2: So I go to the VA here at day Pines.

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Speaker 2: One of my former rangers, Dustin, is a care coalition

458
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Speaker 2: for the VA. Well, he runs that whole thing for Tampa,

459
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Speaker 2: but he's also connected to all fifty states. So I

460
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Speaker 2: gave that guy his card and he already connected him

461
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Speaker 2: with the right person at California to get him help.

462
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Speaker 2: So waving through the system of bureau I don't even

463
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't even call it biocracy or or bureaucrat stuff.

464
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,399
Speaker 2: It's it's a game. It's a system, and if you

465
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Speaker 2: don't know the right person in that system, you can't

466
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Speaker 2: get ahead in life at all. So filling out paper

467
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 2: X and oh you forgot to fill out paper y. Okay,

468
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: Well let's make it use your friendly for everyone. And

469
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Speaker 2: that's what we try to do.

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Speaker 1: So I'm an advocate. I mean, that's what we need

471
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Speaker 1: in so many areas. I mean, most people don't do

472
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Speaker 1: their own taxes. You have somebody to help you. It's

473
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Speaker 1: like you have to have an advocate in a lot

474
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Speaker 1: of different areas. Why wouldn't you need an advocate here?

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Speaker 2: That's it. And subject matter experts within their career fields,

476
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Speaker 2: whether it be mental health, whether it be you know,

477
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Speaker 2: physical help, whether it be alcohol, drug counseling, or whatever.

478
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Speaker 2: I don't know enough about it, but I know who

479
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Speaker 2: I can call to get that help for that other person,

480
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Speaker 2: so they can tell those triggers. Like I said yesterday,

481
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Speaker 2: when you wake up in the morning and you look

482
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Speaker 2: in the mirror and you don't identify that you have

483
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Speaker 2: a problem, you're the problem. You have to identify that

484
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Speaker 2: you have issues. It's like doing your short term and

485
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 2: your long term goals. If you put that on a

486
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Speaker 2: wall and you don't follow it, you're just wasting time.

487
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Speaker 2: So what we try to do is we try to

488
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Speaker 2: reprogram thost soldiers that come back to say it's okay

489
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Speaker 2: to cry, it's okay to have emotion, it's okay to

490
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Speaker 2: ask for help. If you ask for help, what help

491
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 2: do you really need or are you just putting a

492
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Speaker 2: band aid on a sucking chest wound is what when

493
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Speaker 2: the military was saying, So you have to fix the problem.

494
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Speaker 2: And then once you fix the problem, how do I

495
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Speaker 2: continually keep that glide path going? So my mental help

496
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Speaker 2: and my fitness is in shape from not only myself

497
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Speaker 2: but my family. So if you identify me and you say, hey, John,

498
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Speaker 2: I've known you for five years and I just want

499
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Speaker 2: to say I'm starting to see a pattern of stuff

500
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Speaker 2: that has to be resonated with that person. And they

501
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Speaker 2: got to go, oh wow, yeah, I've known do r

502
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Speaker 2: She's told me that I need to do this. Well,

503
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Speaker 2: you probably have to put some weight behind that, because

504
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 2: it's not just someone telling you something. They're trying to

505
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Speaker 2: help you keep your help and well being back. And

506
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Speaker 2: so what Sala does is we do fishing events. We

507
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Speaker 2: do like I said yesterday, we just started a female

508
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Speaker 2: only operator Reset Week, which is.

509
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Speaker 1: What it happens at the Operator Reset Week.

510
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Speaker 2: What really funny is these guys are so nervous they

511
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Speaker 2: don't want to talk to anybody. The same thing with

512
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Speaker 2: the ladies that come, and then by day two they're

513
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Speaker 2: opening up, they're meeting people and they're like, Okay, I

514
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Speaker 2: didn't know that that guy had a problem. Oh I

515
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Speaker 2: knew that guy, I knew her. Yeah. So so every

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Speaker 2: part of a team, like I mentioned yesterday, keen construct

517
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Speaker 2: is like I never did anything by myself, always had

518
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Speaker 2: help on everything. In the military, you do nothing by yourself.

519
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Speaker 2: They say that you do your pet test, you know,

520
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Speaker 2: you run or whatever. No, you got somebody helping you.

521
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Speaker 2: Somebody's going to clock your time, nobody's going to count

522
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Speaker 2: your push up, somebody's gonna hold your feet for your situps.

523
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Speaker 2: But you're gonna have some sort of assistance with everything

524
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Speaker 2: you do in the military. So that's why I made

525
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Speaker 2: the comment yesterday. Nothing is done individually in the military

526
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Speaker 2: unless you're an individual and that's your intent and you

527
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Speaker 2: want your fifteen minutes of fame. No, we have men

528
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Speaker 2: and women that don't ask for fifteen minutes of fame.

529
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Speaker 2: They just go do what they're asked to do, and

530
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Speaker 2: they complete their mission, and then they shake hands and

531
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Speaker 2: they go back and do their normal life.

532
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Speaker 1: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on

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Speaker 1: the Tutor Dixon Podcast. You know, the point here is

534
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Speaker 1: that if you see someone that's constantly trying to be

535
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Speaker 1: out there on TV, and like we did, I did this.

536
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Speaker 1: I did this. This is a group effort and the

537
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Speaker 1: idea is to bring people together. No one's trying to

538
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Speaker 1: get famous off of this. This is about continuing service

539
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Speaker 1: and service looks all different at different times of life. Right,

540
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Speaker 1: Service may be serving overseas. Service may be bringing folks

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Speaker 1: back and taking care of them. And you have a

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Speaker 1: canine program too, right.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am. So Babon Canine is run by Josh Perry

544
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Speaker 2: and those guys identify folks. We actually gave one to

545
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Speaker 2: Lawrence Jones. Got a chance to meet Lawrence last year

546
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Speaker 2: at the at the at the hog hunt, and just

547
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: to watch Lawrence himself change when he had his dog

548
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Speaker 2: and how he was reacting to the folks. So again

549
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 2: you see personalities like yourself and you come out. They

550
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: just want to fit in. They want to be part

551
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Speaker 2: of that normal conversation. And so I had really good

552
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: conversations with Lawrence about just in general, about what we do.

553
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,679
Speaker 2: And so Lawrence took it upon himself to pull some

554
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 2: of the hunters away. We had metal Man or Leroy

555
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:30,080
Speaker 2: Petrie out there and pull some of our guys to

556
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: do a fireside chat and then they televised their own

557
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Speaker 2: fox about what the meaning of and Leroy made a

558
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 2: great point. He's like, I didn't want to come, you know,

559
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,120
Speaker 2: I was very reluctant to come, but once I got here,

560
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,440
Speaker 2: I didn't feel like I was worthy. And then after

561
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Speaker 2: I went out the first day, I'm really glad I

562
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 2: did come. It's a shame in that thought process. And

563
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Speaker 2: so that's where we get I get myself worth is.

564
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Speaker 1: That paid for? Though? For them to go out there?

565
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Speaker 1: Like how do they how do they do it? Because

566
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Speaker 1: I could see how some people say this is overwhelming?

567
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Speaker 1: How do I even do this?

568
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Speaker 2: Yeah, we have sponsors. We get people that donate to

569
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Speaker 2: our sal organization and special operations Wounded Warrior dot org

570
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: and they just donate to funds. We have specific groups

571
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Speaker 2: like somebody will donate money to operate a Reset week,

572
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Speaker 2: or maybe they'll donate money to our taking bacon or

573
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Speaker 2: just they just donate money generally to do that. So

574
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Speaker 2: when we had the opportunity to go to mar A Lago,

575
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Speaker 2: really crazy, you know, reach out to some folks. Some

576
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Speaker 2: guys at Glock Taylor, a good buddy of mine, made

577
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Speaker 2: some specialized pistols that had our logo on one side,

578
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Speaker 2: and task Force diggers on the other and all these

579
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Speaker 2: people are donating money. Military metal arts which have seen

580
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Speaker 2: probably seen on LinkedIn. They make these amazing signs out

581
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Speaker 2: of liquid metal and they're colored and do this. So

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Speaker 2: they made one for the sal logo, they made one

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Speaker 2: for Leroy Peache for the Medal of Honor, and we

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Speaker 2: optioned all those off and all that money comes back

585
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Speaker 2: to us. So you know, with most organizations like myself,

586
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: we don't pay anybody volunteer basis. Everybody on our board

587
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: is all volunteer. We have legal we have a lady

588
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 2: that does all our admin it's just all volunteered time.

589
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: And so those are the things that you people take

590
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Speaker 2: for granted for as well. They forget that, oh wow,

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Speaker 2: John's not making any money off of this. You know. Dottie,

592
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: our administrative lady, she doesn't make any money off She

593
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 2: just does it because she knows she needs to help folks.

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Speaker 1: So really, I want people to think about this. The

595
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Speaker 1: goal here is we hear all the time that there

596
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Speaker 1: are twenty two veteran suicide today, and the goal here

597
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Speaker 1: is to make twenty two zero. That's right, and that

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Speaker 1: is what all of these people. I think that is

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Speaker 1: just so amazing all these people volunteering, putting their time

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Speaker 1: in to do this, and really that takes help. And

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Speaker 1: so when you're looking at your end of year giving, honestly,

602
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: look at this organization. So tell people where they can

603
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Speaker 1: go and look at this, because honest I believe that

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Speaker 1: the people who listen to my podcast are very like

605
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Speaker 1: minded and this is the type of this is the

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Speaker 1: type of opportunity we want to take and we want

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Speaker 1: to run with because just like we've talked about making

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Speaker 1: I mentioned over the weekend, I've been talking a lot

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Speaker 1: about you know, making that abortion number lower. Doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be a lot, doesn't have to be government doing it.

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Speaker 1: That's something that we can do as people. Same thing here,

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Speaker 1: get together, look at the organizations that are really making progress,

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Speaker 1: and you guys are I mean, that's the beauty of this.

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Speaker 1: You can look and you can see results. You can

615
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Speaker 1: see that this is actually helping people, and how can

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Speaker 1: how can you not feel great about that? I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: I think that's the thing. When people are looking to

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Speaker 1: put their money someplace and say, okay, I want to

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Speaker 1: make an impact here, they want to see that there's results.

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Speaker 1: And you already have results. So tell us where exactly

621
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Speaker 1: they can go.

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Speaker 2: So they can go to the Special Operations Wounded Warrior Organization,

623
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Speaker 2: our headquarters out of Tabor Shitting, North Carolina, which is

624
00:30:57,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: really adjacent to Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. That's what we

625
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 2: do a lot of our things. But they can go

626
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: to that website and that web page and you'll see

627
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: it donate there and they can read up on the history.

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00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: We've been around for fourteen years. It was really started

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Speaker 2: by a fireside, you know, some civilians and talking to

630
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Speaker 2: some military guys and they're like, hey, we need to

631
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Speaker 2: really get back. And that's how it started. And then

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00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: it's just gotten bigger and bigger and bigger as the

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Speaker 2: years go on. And so just like any other organization,

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00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: you know, you want to get back more than you

635
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Speaker 2: ever took from something. You know, as a business owner,

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Speaker 2: I mentioned yesterday your mission statement to be a successful

637
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Speaker 2: business owner. If you don't follow that, you're not going

638
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 2: to be successful. So our business model is too. If

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00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: I can save one person, like we talked about yesterday,

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00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: your friend, if I can call him on the phone

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Speaker 2: and talk to him and say, hey, it does matter.

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00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: If your life matters, you matter to your family. If

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Speaker 2: I can fix that one person, then now his job

644
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 2: is to go pay it forward, find somebody else that

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Speaker 2: he can talk to and say, hey, I just talked

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Speaker 2: to this guy that I don't even know, never met

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Speaker 2: him before. He called me on the phone out of

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Speaker 2: blue and he told me that I can make a

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Speaker 2: And so those are the impactful things that you do,

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Speaker 2: and your whole audience can do that they know if

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Speaker 2: You can call me any time. You won't because I

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Speaker 2: have a passion for that. Why because I almost did

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Speaker 2: it and if I had not have had friends like

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Speaker 2: Sara major Rick Merrick that I'll introduce you to that

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Speaker 2: called me and let me know. It's okay John to struggle,

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Speaker 2: and it's okay to be scared. It's not okay to

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Speaker 2: yourself because you can't. You have to have help in

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Speaker 2: everything that you do in your life. You have to

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Speaker 2: have some sort of an assistance process.

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Speaker 1: I love that. It's so hard to be vulnerable, but

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Speaker 1: it's so important that people are and they let people

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Speaker 1: in and you've done great work. Johnny Walker, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being on today.

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Speaker 2: Yes, ma'am, I appreciate it. You guys have a merry

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Speaker 2: Christmas and safe travel.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you too, and thank you all for joining

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Speaker 1: us on the Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this episod and others,

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