1 00:00:01,720 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, 2 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:09,319 Speaker 1: JP Shadwick and Jeff Logoman. Keep you informed in up 3 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: to date with the head coach of Jorge Jacksonville Jaguars. 4 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show starts right now. 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 2: Welcome in The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:23,080 Speaker 2: Florida from the Hondai Studios the Miller Electric Center. We're 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University of Florida, 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: number one university in the US News and World Reports, 9 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: number one state for education. JP Shadrick, Jeff Logoman will 10 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 2: have Liam Cohen, the Jacks head coach with us starting 11 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: in the regular season. 12 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 3: I think these guys will do tonight. 13 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: Tony Vasselli, James Gladstone joining us in studio to get 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: things going at the start of training camp. 15 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: Tony Vasselli, what's those joining us on the network? Was 16 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 4: a minute early? It is a new Land speed record. 17 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 5: All our fans are gonna be like, hey, didn't show 18 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 5: up right when the show started. 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 3: Amazing. 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: Welcome in guys, James, glad to have you in here. 21 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 3: Ish Man, It's awesome. 22 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 6: Let's to be on the on the mic. I know this. 23 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 7: We got two rules in this franchise. The first one 24 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 7: is beyond time. Yeah, Tony is abiding by that rule, 25 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 7: committed to the process. 26 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 3: I hold him to that. 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 5: Well, you'll love this first meeting departments, it's like we 28 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 5: have three before. This was before Liam put in the 29 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 5: whole football rules and stuff. We talked about how we're 30 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 5: going to operate as a operation staff. You know, we 31 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 5: had three rules. Beyond time, respect everyone in the building, 32 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 5: and work your ass off. 33 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: That's it. 34 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:33,400 Speaker 5: If you do those three things, you are going to 35 00:01:33,480 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 5: be good. 36 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: I know where you got those three things from. 37 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 5: Well, actually you know where I got him from. To 38 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 5: be on times like tom obviously. 39 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but that was be early, be early. 40 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 5: So but we actually one of the things, and I 41 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 5: believe in that. Liam highlights it, and uh, James Lie 42 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,560 Speaker 5: and I talked about it being on time. We will 43 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: not start a meeting early either. So if like the 44 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,400 Speaker 5: meeting starts at nine, it starts at nine, that doesn't 45 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 5: mean like you're not if you get there five minutes early. 46 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 5: We're not going to start five minutes early, which was 47 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 5: TC time, which is that's his mode of operation. That's great, 48 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 5: But nine o'clock we have a meeting. It starts at 49 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 5: nine o'clock. 50 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 3: So I got fined. 51 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: One time I got fined. I was three minutes early 52 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:17,239 Speaker 5: and I was late. 53 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: I crossed the concentration line two minutes before the to begin, 54 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 2: and I got fine. 55 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 3: The concentration Where. 56 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 6: Was the concentration line? 57 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: Practice field? 58 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: Well, this was back in Stevens Point, you know, so 59 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 2: it was like you know, going. 60 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: Through it was a little bit murky. There was a 61 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 3: game a blur. 62 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: No he had you like baseball. You've got the guy 63 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 2: with the chalk machine. They had a line that was 64 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: across the gate, but was. 65 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 5: Remember when the practice field used to be where Dailies 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 5: is now a lot d That's where it was for 67 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: our whole time you and I played here. It was 68 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 5: a chain link fence around the whole field with early 69 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 5: there wasn't even any coverings. They finally covered and some 70 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 5: people couldn't spy on us. But there was one gate 71 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 5: you could go through and there was literally a big 72 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 5: wide yellow line and that was a concentration step over. 73 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 3: You're locked in. 74 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 5: And if you're not across that line. In Tom's world, 75 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: five minutes before practice start, you're late. Fine, make it rain, 76 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 5: but you know where I got those with influence that 77 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 5: The kind of how I think about it in a 78 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 5: big way is John Robinson because I remember when he 79 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 5: came to Sea and Larry Smith was the coach before 80 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 5: great had a great was a great college coach. He 81 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 5: was more in than Tom Coughlin school of thought, lots 82 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 5: of rules, very like a lot and I remember Coach 83 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 5: Robinson came in and operated just find just operated with 84 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 5: Tom here no problems. When John Robinson came that scene, 85 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 5: we had a first meeting, team meeting. I'll never forget 86 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 5: three rules and they were similar to that. Beyond time 87 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: respect everyone in the building was big unrespecting because he 88 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 5: did not like if you respect, if you disrespected people 89 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 5: underneath you. He had a real issue with that. 90 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, Rule number two has been framed many different ways, yes, 91 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 2: and some of them not so clean language wise. 92 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 5: That's a good point. And then the last rule was 93 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 5: play your tail and so and I remember being a 94 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 5: player in that situation. For me, it was a lot 95 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:31,799 Speaker 5: of freedom from the stance of not lack of rules 96 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 5: as and James's articulated this best. I'd never articulated this way, 97 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:40,479 Speaker 5: but allowed me to be who I was and just hey, 98 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 5: it's easy show up on time, respect the building, respect everybody. 99 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 5: You respect people by being on time because you value 100 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 5: their time, you know, treat everyone as a human as 101 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 5: we should, with respect and love and kindness. And then finally, 102 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,679 Speaker 5: just do your job to the best of your ability. 103 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 5: And amazingly, if you do those three things, every other 104 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 5: rule you can think of pretty much gets coveralls. It 105 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,720 Speaker 5: falls in line. Now except for no white sox that 106 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 5: I couldn't find a place for that one. But uh, 107 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 5: and so that's kind of how we operate. And it's interesting, Lamb. 108 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 5: When he became our head coach, we sat down the 109 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 5: first time and we talked about the three of us, 110 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 5: like what are the teams, like, what's the culture, how 111 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: are we going to do things? And what are the rules? 112 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: And Liam's like, I got two rules, yeah, beyond time, 113 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 5: protect the team, Yeah, the. 114 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 2: One the one thing I think that by having those 115 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 2: ground rules kind of talked about and established for I know, 116 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 2: for the locker room, because you know, I came from 117 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 2: environments that didn't necessarily have rules spelled out when I 118 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 2: came here with Coughlan and he had those rules and 119 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 2: his rules were way long. 120 00:05:47,680 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 4: But the gist of it was those by the way, 121 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 4: if you if you. 122 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:56,359 Speaker 5: If you summarized all of rules outside of some of 123 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 5: the travel things like he had his nuances of what 124 00:05:58,720 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 5: he wanted to wear and stuff. 125 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, James, you would have gotten fed. 126 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: No, James hates white sox too. 127 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:08,119 Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's got white sneakers on that was not allowed. Okay, 128 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 2: trust me, I know the rule book because I got 129 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 2: fined for that time. 130 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 5: Halfway there. You're halfway there. 131 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 2: But but the thing that I was going to get 132 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 2: at is that when you have those those rules in 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: place as a player, it gives you an environment that 134 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 2: you can thrive in because you don't feel like that 135 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 2: you have to end up cleaning up the rough locker 136 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: room or establishing what the rules should be as a leader. 137 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: I mean, it's already there, and it allows you to 138 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,040 Speaker 2: do more than just pick up. 139 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 3: The pieces of trash, so to speak. 140 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 2: You know. Jeff Lockman, j P. Shadwick, Tony Boselli, James Gladstone. 141 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 2: This is the Liam Cohen Show. Liam Cohen will be 142 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 2: with us at the start of the regular season, stuck 143 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 2: with us. 144 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 5: During training camp. 145 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 3: James too. 146 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 4: I don't think he's gotten two words in yet. 147 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 5: A question he's happy with. 148 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 3: He's the question. 149 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 2: The team has been assembled, the team is on the 150 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 2: field being coached. 151 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: Training campus here, Logs, you know where I'm going. I 152 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: do go there, James, What do you do now? 153 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 6: Oh, that's a great question. 154 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 7: You know, Tony and I spent a lot of time 155 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 7: together and I've done a ton of talking over the 156 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 7: course of the spring the early portion of the summer, 157 00:07:15,760 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 7: and you know, I'm looking forward to seeing all this 158 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 7: come to life and really round out the remaining items 159 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 7: on the to do list, so to speak, before the 160 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 7: season gets here, which right now, obviously with the kickoff 161 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 7: of camp, we're focusing a lot of our attention on 162 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 7: the return to play and what that all looks like. 163 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,600 Speaker 7: While at the same time, we've got our scouting staff 164 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 7: back in the facility full time right now for a 165 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 7: two week window. Here, we're working through what we've labeled 166 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:42,200 Speaker 7: as our scouting Summit, and we're walking through our modes operation, 167 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 7: the things that we're going to be placing an emphasis 168 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 7: on as we head into this next cycle, and really 169 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 7: getting a chance to be under the same roof with 170 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 7: them is a good thing for us as we all 171 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 7: get to know one another on a deeper level and 172 00:07:55,120 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 7: have a clear understanding for what it is we're looking 173 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 7: for as we start to hunt up the next iteration 174 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 7: of players that will come in, uh, through all the 175 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 7: modes of acquisition that will be in front of us, 176 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 7: and really just looking forward in the now to see 177 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 7: this group really, as as Liam has mentioned it, offer 178 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 7: their edge and create it together and really what the 179 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 7: identity of this team is going to look like here 180 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 7: throughout twenty twenty five. 181 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: I got I got. 182 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 2: Two questions for you, and I'll stick with the first question. First, 183 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 2: I don't want to overload your brain there because if 184 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 2: you're like me, you got to focus on one player. 185 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: I'm glad I got you. 186 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: How do you balance as a general manager the here 187 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,679 Speaker 2: and now with this football team and also the future? 188 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: Because your job is not just about okay, I'm you're 189 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 2: not done with this roster. I mean there's still opportunities 190 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: to improve this roster here and now. But then also 191 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: you're looking down the road. So as a as a 192 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: general manager, how do you balance that as far as 193 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 2: handling them now but also handling the future? 194 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 3: Right? 195 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 7: I see him as one and the same in a 196 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:15,160 Speaker 7: lot of ways, right, both can be true you're you're 197 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 7: focusing on both and you know one has impact on 198 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 7: the other, And I think it's you can try and 199 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,959 Speaker 7: compartmentalize as best as possible, but at the same time, 200 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,440 Speaker 7: you got to know that, you know, rooting yourself in 201 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 7: the current moment is probably what's going to lend itself 202 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 7: to the most production, and knowing that that will definitely 203 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 7: have layered impact on what lies in front, but balancing 204 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 7: the logic, the line of. 205 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 6: Thinking is certainly going to remain at the forefront. 206 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 7: And I think it is fun vacillating between sort of 207 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 7: our conversations in the meeting rooms throughout the course of 208 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 7: a day and then jumping out to the field and 209 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 7: seeing what's taking place, and then engaging in some strategy 210 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 7: around what comes next, but knowing that the current moment 211 00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 7: is the one you got to root yourself, all. 212 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: Right, Part two so that my brain can handle all this, Okay, 213 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 2: Every year, every team is in a different cap situation. 214 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 2: How is the health of the cap of this football 215 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: team this year, because at some point you may need 216 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: to tweak or add with injuries or with just supplementing 217 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 2: the roster. And also how is the cap situation of 218 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 2: this team moving forward, because you know a lot of 219 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 2: times that's not the conversation of this football team because 220 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 2: where it's been the most of the conversation is about 221 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: wins and losses. Most of the time the teams that win, 222 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: the conversation is about salary cap. But is the salary cap, 223 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: how is it now? And how's it look in the future. 224 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, we currently have about eighteen million in cap space, 225 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 7: and you got to account for and projectate. There's also 226 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 7: an idea you roll over a salary cap, so what 227 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 7: you don't use ends up in the next cycle, So 228 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 7: that's not a bad thing if you have a little extra. 229 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 7: We're kind of in the middle of the league on 230 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 7: the current space that we have at our disposal, which 231 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 7: gives us flexibility. It allows us if we feel like 232 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 7: we gotta we got to go after. 233 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 6: Somebody, we can. 234 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 7: We can entertain that we're not sort of limited by 235 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 7: that at this current moment. And obviously that has to 236 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 7: be entertained with a lot of forward thought, right knowing 237 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 7: that you can roll over and injuries may show themselves 238 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,800 Speaker 7: that force your force your hand a little bit. Opportunities 239 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 7: pop up that you may or may not have anticipated, 240 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 7: and we certainly want to give ourselves a flexibility to 241 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 7: think about those things as they progress. And you also 242 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 7: got to take into consideration that our practice squads on 243 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 7: the horizon that'll take a chunk out of the current 244 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 7: cap space and things of that nature. So it's definitely 245 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 7: balancing a lot, but in a healthy spot heading into 246 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 7: the season, for sure. 247 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: I think as you look forward you after, I think 248 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 5: the unknown is because you're going to have some rollover 249 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 5: at least where we sit today, not knowing what the 250 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 5: future looks like. But the other thing you don't we 251 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 5: don't know specifically, what's the cap going to be next year, 252 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 5: what's the increase Like I think the cap from the 253 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 5: league from a league standpoint, like the cap increase a 254 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 5: little bit more than people expected this year, so a 255 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 5: lot of things going to that with the revenue and 256 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 5: everything else. 257 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 3: Seems like that happens every year. 258 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: It usually goes up a little more than expected than 259 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 2: which means the business is cooling. 260 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: That's right, downright, doesn't go down. 261 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 5: Let's hope not. That would not be good for anybody. 262 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 4: How long do we have you guys, by the way, uh, 263 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 4: thirty minutes thirty minutes from there. 264 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: So we got that's cool, write it down. I wish 265 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: we weren't on time. We're going to take a time out. 266 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 3: We'll come back with more. 267 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 2: Tony Boselli, James Gladstone with us in studio for the 268 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 2: opening Liam Cohen Show of the season on the Jaguars 269 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 2: Radio Network. 270 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 5: Welcome Back. 271 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 272 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: right now. 273 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: Yes, The Liam Cohen Show is presented by a Fresh 274 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 4: from Florida J P. 275 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Blogman. We're at the Hondai Studios, the 276 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 2: Miller Electric Center. Tony Boselli and James Gladstone live in 277 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: studio with us. We'll have the head coach charting in 278 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: week one of the regular season on this program each 279 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 2: and every Thursday on the Jaguars Radio Network. Let's get 280 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: into some personnel. First couple of days, James, what stood 281 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: out to you on the field from the balcony over here? 282 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 7: You know what, It's been fun to see it. The 283 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 7: competition across all three phases really shine and been some 284 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 7: great moments from each side of the ball, and a 285 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 7: lot of things that are easy to identify and coach 286 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,319 Speaker 7: up and lean into in terms of getting better each day. 287 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 7: But to see the level of competition where it's at 288 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 7: players doing what's being asked of them and committing to it, 289 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 7: really showing a sign and buy in has been really neat. 290 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 6: Right. 291 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 7: You look at our offense, there's a high level of 292 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,199 Speaker 7: complexity attached to it and it requires it's got a 293 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 7: high level of mental demands pre snap to make post 294 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 7: snap easier, and obviously preparation is necessary for that to 295 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 7: look clean. The operation being as clean as it has 296 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 7: been on the offensive side of the ball through two 297 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 7: practices is really something to give praise to. And you 298 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:10,719 Speaker 7: got to point to players who didn't take time off 299 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 7: from their mental preparation and the lead up to these 300 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 7: couple of days, right, Uh, for Trevor to have walked 301 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 7: in and have a one hundred question quiz sprung upon 302 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:23,760 Speaker 7: him just like every other QB and walk away as 303 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 7: the winner of that output. It wasn't just right or 304 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 7: wrong answers, It was the speed at which you were 305 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 7: answering and scored. 306 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 6: According to that. 307 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: Did they know they were going to have this test? 308 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 6: They had no idea. 309 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 7: They were going through a normal meeting and then bam, 310 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 7: right before they left here, you guys go eighty five 311 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 7: Is that right? 312 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? 313 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 7: And again again it's not like eighty five out of 314 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 7: one hundred, so to speak, as much as it is 315 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,640 Speaker 7: a scoring system that takes into account the speed at 316 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 7: which you're answering having that type of stuff, which obviously 317 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 7: is so. 318 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 3: What what would be? What would be is great? I 319 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: mean I don't like that. 320 00:14:56,560 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 5: I wish I think the biggest thing on that, the 321 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 5: bigger thing on that is this. In that room you 322 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 5: had obviously Trevor, Nick Mullins, John Wolford in our rookie Hennigan. 323 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 5: Wolford and Mullens both have been in the system and 324 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 5: operated this system for years, so very familiar with the 325 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 5: language how they call it, can plays. Trevor's first exposure 326 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 5: to this was this spring. I would have expected and 327 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 5: this is not a knock against Trevor. It's a complex system. 328 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 5: As James said that either Nick, Mullens or Wolford would 329 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 5: have been the highest and everything else. To me where 330 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 5: Trevor gets an a in my book, because these are 331 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 5: Wolford and Mullens are both very smart, very intellectual, understanding, 332 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 5: almost coaches on the field in some sense. For Trevor 333 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 5: to have the highest score like to me, I was like, Wow, 334 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 5: pleasant surprise. This is a guy who has dedicated himself 335 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 5: since the day he got here, as he's rehaving a 336 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: shoulder with our coaches, to be diligent of understanding the system, 337 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 5: the calls, the checks, the formations, it's multiple formations, and 338 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 5: you don't do that by just the time that you're 339 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 5: required or you're asked to spend here with the coaches. 340 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 5: You have to do that on your own. And for 341 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 5: him to do that shows what kind of pro he 342 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 5: is and the fact that he's achieved that mentally is 343 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 5: a real positive. 344 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 2: I thought that physically he looks the best he's ever looked. 345 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 2: Do you guys look agree? I mean, I thought he's 346 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 2: looks in great shape that he has been I think 347 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: in his career. I don't know what he waited in 348 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 2: I don't. 349 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 5: Know what he's waited in the past, but I think 350 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 5: he came in in great shape, and like all our 351 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 5: guys did, I think that had a great offseason. I 352 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 5: give it a ton of credit to Eric Ciano, our 353 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 5: strength head strength coach and his staff and the buy 354 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 5: in from our players. I think all of us were 355 00:16:59,840 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 5: very pleased with the off season. And then a number 356 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: of our players. Some went to other places to work out, 357 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 5: go home, which is very normal. A lot of guys, 358 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,560 Speaker 5: more than normal, stayed in Jacksonville on their own because 359 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 5: it's all voluntary, can't be coaches involved during that dead period, 360 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 5: to work out at the facility and to really train 361 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 5: and work out together. Trevor taking the receivers once again 362 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,520 Speaker 5: to the Bahamas to do that work. The dedication from 363 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,920 Speaker 5: the players to be as prepared as they possibly can 364 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 5: before camp was it was very encouraging. 365 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 3: All right. So I was watching The Hunt, okay on YouTube. 366 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 3: You guys might have heard of it. 367 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, And you guys have been stars 368 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: on that, you know episode one, two and then three, 369 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,640 Speaker 2: and episode three was the Iron Jaguar, and I saw 370 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 2: Trevor lifting weights, okay, And I was sitting there thinking 371 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 2: back to the days of old, and I was going, 372 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: I wonder if Trevor was doing power cleans. 373 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,159 Speaker 6: It's a different dynamic nowady, Yeah, it's a. 374 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: Little bit different weightlifting. 375 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,240 Speaker 5: It's not the old days yet for Jerry Paul, Mary's 376 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 5: having Mark Ronell power cleans with the rest of us 377 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 5: in the way. 378 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 3: The reason I bring that up is that that really happened. 379 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 5: It did happen our starting quarterbacks. And by the way, 380 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 5: he had one of the highest power queens guys. 381 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: In the weight room and we yeah, he hurt his back. 382 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 3: That was the last day. What are we doing? 383 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 5: And I think that was ninety six. It was the 384 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 5: last day of his career. He did power cleans. He 385 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 5: was forbidden to do powerqleeens from that moment on. 386 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, trust me. 387 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 7: I asked Tony a lot of questions about what was 388 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 7: it like back in your day, and oh, the story. 389 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:35,120 Speaker 5: Starting quarterback, it's a little bit different. It's a different deal. 390 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 2: Tony Sally James Ladstone with us. This is the Liam 391 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 2: Cohen Show, first of the season on the Jaguars Radio Network. 392 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: A lot of eyeballs on Travis Hunter. Certainly the fans 393 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 2: and the stands are excited every time he touches the 394 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 2: ball on offense. But the first couple of days he's 395 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 2: also had very light defensive walk through work during special 396 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 2: teams times and they've said every moment of practice is 397 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 2: scripted out for him. 398 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 3: So far, so good. But what's the next step now 399 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 3: for Travis Hunter. 400 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 6: You know, I've got to give a ton of credit. 401 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 7: Liam put a ton of time and attention into what 402 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: that progression is going to look like for Travis over 403 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 7: the course of the training camp and obviously building up 404 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 7: for the regular season, but school coming off of our 405 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 7: plan in Ota, seeing them bounce back from offense to 406 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:24,199 Speaker 7: defense every other practice and things like that, more heavily 407 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 7: loaded on offense, obviously knowing that that's such a critical 408 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 7: phase of the calendar year where it is a mental load, 409 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 7: and with the complexity of our offensive system, wanting to 410 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 7: place an emphasis there, and then also learning through that 411 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 7: of where there can be issues or hurdles to overcome when, 412 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 7: as an example, you have a four day weekend right 413 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 7: in front of you and you go offense on Thursday, 414 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 7: your Friday off, Saturday off, Sunday off. Defense is the 415 00:19:57,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 7: next one up for them, and now you have such 416 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 7: a a significant gap between time on task it can 417 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 7: be challenging to recalibrate the mind being detached from it 418 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 7: like that. So using that as a nice example and 419 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 7: building out our training camp approach, I know Liam's got 420 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 7: a really well written out point in obviously will remain 421 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 7: agile as things show themselves or feel like we need 422 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 7: to put more emphasis in a certain area, but with 423 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 7: Travis's commitment, the coach's commitment to making sure that this 424 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 7: is all an option to bring to life here and 425 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 7: there early going is a really cool thing to see 426 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 7: play in real time. 427 00:20:36,080 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: I'm excited to watch kind of that Travis on offense, 428 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: but not just because of him. You've got BTJ, who 429 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: is incredibly fast. You've got Diamie Brown who can fly. 430 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 2: So you got three guys that can fly, and Parker 431 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: Washington is a powerful, quick, you know, after the catch 432 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: kind of thing. Got a lot of weapons there on offense. 433 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 2: But the speed I think of those three guys, I'm 434 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 2: holding up four fingers of those three guys goes back 435 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,920 Speaker 2: when we were talking about earlier exactly speak of those 436 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 2: three guys. 437 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 3: I can't wait to watch those guys play football game. 438 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, I think you can certainly point to that as 439 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 7: some version of a superpower of the offense as a whole. 440 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 7: I think it shows up in a number of different 441 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 7: position groups, and that includes our offensive line. 442 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 6: There's a group of guys up there that. 443 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:27,960 Speaker 7: Are very mobile, and I think you can expect to 444 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 7: see that, you know, be a part of our game 445 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 7: as we move into this regular season. And obviously, you 446 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 7: know know that sort of what we're leaning into most 447 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 7: can evolve. It may not be the exact same as 448 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 7: what we're seeing now four weeks from now, may not 449 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 7: be the exact same week one as it is week five, 450 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 7: but look forward to seeing the identity of the group 451 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 7: come to life and the them be. 452 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 6: A part of that here in the early down and 453 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 6: do their part. 454 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 3: Uh, Tony, are you ready for pads yet? 455 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 5: Well? Yeah, it was funny when Jeff acts or maybe 456 00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 5: it's you jps James, the questions like who stood out out? 457 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 5: And I said, well, in this non football activities that 458 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 5: we're doing right now in the field because we haven't 459 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:08,359 Speaker 5: played football yet, No and all I mean, I've joked 460 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 5: about this every year I was on the show. In 461 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 5: all seriousness, now, sitting where I sit, there's only so 462 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 5: much evaluation you can do of who you are as 463 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 5: a team through what we've done so far. It's a 464 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,840 Speaker 5: necessary it's critical. James talked about the mental side of it, 465 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 5: critical of the condition and the strength become a becoming 466 00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 5: a team, establishing a culture, how you're going to operate. 467 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 5: All those things are so important. You cannot do that 468 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 5: without the phases. We've gone through this acclamation period is 469 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 5: important to get everyone back in the building. 470 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,360 Speaker 3: You know, well, you've been a way. No, but I'm 471 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: saying it's critical. The guy that used to complain about 472 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 3: the way things are great. 473 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 5: No, No, I'm not saying it's great. I say it's critical. 474 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 5: But you don't know who you are as a football 475 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 5: team until you start playing football. Like we talked about 476 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 5: our offensive line, I think what we've done in the 477 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 5: off season, the work they have done, I think we 478 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 5: have very good depth. But I can't sit here right 479 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 5: now and tell you who we are as an offensive 480 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 5: line and how are they going to work together. You 481 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 5: look at the other side of the line of scrimmage, Trayvon, 482 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 5: josh Man. They had great off seasons. Their bodies look different. 483 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 5: They are hungry to get to another level in their 484 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,160 Speaker 5: careers and their games. Mason Smith had did everything we asked, 485 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,359 Speaker 5: dedicated works his tail off. Davon Hamilton looks like what 486 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 5: he did. He weighs what we want him to wa 487 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 5: He's weighing right where we want him away. But Jeff, 488 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 5: you and I've watched him for a long time. Before 489 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 5: the back injury, he was ascending to being one of 490 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 5: the better one techniques, gets hurt bad injury impacted them 491 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 5: in a major way. You can see him in his 492 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,280 Speaker 5: body getting back to what we saw before, excited for 493 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 5: what he can do. And you just go down the list, 494 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 5: but I can't tell you what any of them are 495 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 5: until you put the pads on it. You see that 496 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 5: competitive in a competitive environment where you're being physical. Because 497 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 5: I think one of the things Liam is harped on 498 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 5: we all believe is we have to be a more 499 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:15,880 Speaker 5: physical team. We have to be able to run the ball, 500 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,639 Speaker 5: we have to control the line of scrimmage, and then 501 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,440 Speaker 5: on the other side, we got to stop the run, 502 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 5: give ourselves a chance to rush the passer and getting 503 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 5: positive downs and distance for our defense that can attack, 504 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 5: take the ball away, create turnovers. So we are such 505 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: an early stage, it's really hard to make a full 506 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 5: evaluation of where we're at until you get and start 507 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 5: playing foot. 508 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 7: The other element to just lend itself into an understanding of. 509 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: How we'll scout. Our style of scouting. 510 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 7: It's rooted in authentic football exposures, right the idea of 511 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 7: watching game film, turning on the tape, pressing play quarter 512 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 7: one to quarter four, play after play, letting it speak 513 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 7: to you. The non off authentic football exposures, the one 514 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 7: on one settings where it's offensive line defensive line and 515 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 7: it's not true to form. It's not a real football exposure, 516 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 7: or the on field workouts where there is no enemy 517 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 7: across from you. Combine, those are not authentic football exposures. 518 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 7: We will root ourselves in the city of Football as 519 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 7: a part of our evaluation process. And this just points 520 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 7: back to what Tony's saying. We've seen very good things 521 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 7: as a part of the phases that we've gone through todate. 522 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 7: We will not know who we are until we put 523 00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 7: the pads on. 524 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: Upcoming one more time out, We'll come back. Final thoughts 525 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone. It's the Liam Cohen 526 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:44,440 Speaker 2: Show on Jaguars Radio. 527 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 5: Welcome Back. 528 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,760 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show presented by Fresh from Florida continues 529 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:06,359 Speaker 1: right now. 530 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: Final moments with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone on The 531 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 2: Liam Cohen Show presented by a Fresh from Florida J P. 532 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:16,560 Speaker 2: Shadwick with Jeff Logoman and Yeah, tell Liam, we're waiting 533 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: on him, you know, sort of the regular season. Glad 534 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:20,719 Speaker 2: to have you guys hear the right now. 535 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:22,720 Speaker 5: He is a little busy. There's a lot going on. 536 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 5: They're walking through right now to walk through, So you're stuck. 537 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,520 Speaker 5: You're stuck with us. 538 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Do you miss radio Tony? 539 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:35,640 Speaker 5: Not one bit, JP, I miss hanging out with you guys. 540 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 2: So so a little different schedule because you know, practice 541 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 2: in the morning and then walk through in the afternoon. 542 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 543 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 2: I like it. As a player, I would like that 544 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 2: just I mean, you know, take advantage of any cool 545 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: part of the day you can get, you. 546 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 5: Know, and not only that it's I mean it's still 547 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 5: been hot. It was hot this morning, but I think 548 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 5: you get away from those afternoon thundershowers where you're forced inside. 549 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 5: We do not want to practice inside if we don't 550 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 5: have to, obviously, and I think just the overall schedule 551 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 5: of how it's laid out, I think it's beneficial for 552 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 5: obviously the weather I just talked about, but also for 553 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: our coaches and how they prepare for the day, our players, 554 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,679 Speaker 5: the kind of the rhythm they go into. So so far, 555 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 5: so good. Obviously we're early in the down and but 556 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 5: I think everyone right now is operating pretty well in 557 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 5: the schedule change. 558 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: You excited for pads next week? 559 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:28,199 Speaker 2: Oh? 560 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 7: I can't wait here those babies pop authentic football exposures 561 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 7: on the horizon. Yeah, we're just step for that to occur, 562 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 7: and I think at that point we'll start to see 563 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 7: some things that we haven't yet and start to pivot 564 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 7: based off of them. 565 00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 2: I think there's always a level of excitement, you know, 566 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 2: when the pads go on. I mean, because you know, 567 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknowns, and there's some guys that 568 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 2: you watch when they're not in pads and you go, yeah, yeah, 569 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 2: but when they get pads on, they're different. I mean, 570 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 2: that's some guys just distinguishing themselves when the pads go on. 571 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,560 Speaker 2: Are there couple guys that you each you know, this 572 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 2: is for each of you to answer on your own. 573 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 2: Are there are a couple guys that you got your 574 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 2: eyes on when the pads go on that you're like, 575 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see him? 576 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? I think that's for me. 577 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 7: It's probably fair to say that that's across the board. 578 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 7: There's never an instance where I'm evaluating somebody that that's 579 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 7: not the case. Everything else is just sort of the 580 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 7: the baseline elements, and until you're in the pads, it's 581 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,920 Speaker 7: hard for me to really say with any certainty what 582 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,200 Speaker 7: you're actually going to be. But you know, across the 583 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 7: board when when you start to look at the trenches, 584 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 7: that's probably at least where the internal sentiment would be 585 00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 7: as well. That was a great rep here in OTAs, 586 00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 7: but I have no idea if that would have been 587 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 7: the case had the pad's been on. So from tight 588 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 7: end to interior ol it's certainly top of mind, and 589 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 7: the fact that we're going to ask our receivers to 590 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 7: do a little bit more in that phase of the 591 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 7: game than they're probably used to. Right, knowing that this 592 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 7: system asks that all eleven participate in the run game offensively, 593 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 7: it'll be it'll be exciting to see those guys get 594 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:08,160 Speaker 7: engaged in that. 595 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, I got fourteen individual guys and looking forward to 596 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 5: watching you just read the offense the line now, I'm 597 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:22,480 Speaker 5: with James. I mean, I think you go across the board. 598 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 5: Obviously I'm drawn to the offensive line. I was joking 599 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 5: with James as we were doing some scouting work. Uh, 600 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 5: the last couple of days looking at OTA's and different things. 601 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 5: I have to tell myself, I have to tell myself 602 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 5: to look at other positions because I found myself yesterday 603 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 5: we were watching as a group and I missed the 604 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 5: first two plays. Uh, all I watch is the five 605 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 5: guys up front, and then you naturally watch the defensive guys, 606 00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 5: and after two players, I'm like, oh gosh, I gotta 607 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 5: watch what the dbs are doing. The ride receivers to 608 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 5: do it, which has actually been a ton of fun 609 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 5: for me. Super thankful to James we work through the 610 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 5: process and allowing me to dive into some of the 611 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,719 Speaker 5: cross check scouting, but also looking at the overall thing 612 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,680 Speaker 5: because I love the game of football and we've talked 613 00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 5: about that for years and it's been a ton of 614 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 5: fun for me to really dive into different positions and 615 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,640 Speaker 5: watching our backs and watching the back end. And you 616 00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: look at a guy like k old Rant saw that 617 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 5: we got out of tu lane and again we're not 618 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 5: in pads, but watching him operate and or whether it's 619 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 5: him or Jordan Lewis positions I probably would watch as 620 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: we watch film together, Jeff. Obviously we'd watch every game 621 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 5: and kind of evaluate what we saw, but those are 622 00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 5: glances you kind of watching, always drawn back to the trenches, 623 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 5: and so really to dive into that, I think that's 624 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 5: been a privilege for me and a ton of fun 625 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 5: and super thankful for James. 626 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:52,840 Speaker 7: And hold On talk about I get the luxury of 627 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 7: sitting in a room with a Hall of Fame offensive 628 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 7: lineman when we're evaluating though. 629 00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 6: So yeah, I'm thankful that I get that up as well. 630 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 7: And I also get to ride the tales of Hey, 631 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 7: Tony's been asked to go be a speaker at a 632 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 7: an OL Mastermind setting that he hadn't gone to in years, 633 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 7: but offer I'm like, hey, would you mind if I come? 634 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 5: He messed up my he messed up my summer. Hey 635 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 5: did you get write it at all? On Mastermind? I go, yeah, 636 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 5: I'm not going to go what is that? It's a 637 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 5: it's a great event started by Lane Johnson and a 638 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,000 Speaker 5: guy named Duke Merriweather's a really good football player and 639 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 5: a great dude, just maybe the best tackle in football 640 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 5: right now. 641 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I love his thoughts on the current state of 642 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,239 Speaker 2: the Union. By the way, just my you're a Union guy. 643 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:36,840 Speaker 2: I'll let you we'll talk about that in our time. 644 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: But they've been doing it for I don't how many years, 645 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 2: probably seven I think it is now. This was the. 646 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 6: Equivalent, but they bring in not only. 647 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 5: NFL, but top college guys because Duke Merriweather is a 648 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 5: guy that has a facility that he trains both college 649 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 5: players and NFL players. 650 00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 3: And who's Duke Merriweather. 651 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 5: I don't know his. 652 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 7: Background that well, to be honest, I believe he started 653 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 7: as a high school trainer and eventually a lot of 654 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:08,719 Speaker 7: those players UH began finding success collegiately and and professionally. UH. 655 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 7: And so he's built up a good client tele list 656 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 7: and has a has a pretty big following. 657 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 6: But obviously in conjunction with Lane, who. 658 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 7: Was one of his early clients, UH has structured this 659 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 7: this ol masterminds event annually and I think it's either 660 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:25,800 Speaker 7: seventh or eighth year. 661 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 6: And just like that of tight End, you a Sack summit, 662 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 6: it's the equivalent. 663 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's great. 664 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,479 Speaker 3: So you talked him into going, Well you weren't going 665 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:34,640 Speaker 3: to go. 666 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 5: Well, usually I don't go because it's he's vacation exactly right, JP. 667 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,760 Speaker 5: I enjoyed the Islands and this year I was happy 668 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 5: to be in UH town and the schedulesn't working. James like, 669 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 5: I think you should go where it's a Dallas because 670 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 5: I think you should go, But he did. Then he 671 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 5: quickly followed up, he goes, can I come with you? 672 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 4: So, yes, we're working. 673 00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 7: It's been a blast being in the bunker with Tony, 674 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,880 Speaker 7: and I'm sure we're both thankful for different elements, but 675 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 7: I'm certain that I am I'm probably reaping more rewards 676 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,959 Speaker 7: than he is apart. But get this, So we end 677 00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 7: up we were scheduled to stay the night. 678 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 6: The event gets over. 679 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 7: Earlier than anticipated, so we're like, wait a minute, there's 680 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 7: one more flight back to Jacksonville. 681 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 6: So we had flown out seven am. 682 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 7: We get a chance to get on like a five 683 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 7: pm to get us back here at seven pm, and as. 684 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 6: A part of that, we're on standby. 685 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 7: Well Tony gets crammed middle seat economy and it's all 686 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 7: everybody going from Dallas to Jacksonville. 687 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,480 Speaker 6: So there's plenty of people that know who's sitting You 688 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 6: think you're in. 689 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 5: The gym and me walking past everybody to the back crammed, 690 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 5: and I think James got a kick out of it. 691 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 5: I'm sitting there, but I'll tell you what to get 692 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 5: home twenty four hours early. That's cool when you know 693 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 5: that you're getting ready to go to the camp. And 694 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 5: he listened. Next seven months it is full, full speed 695 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 5: and can't wait for It's exciting, but you relish any 696 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,720 Speaker 5: moment you can have in that time off at home 697 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 5: and with family. And James like, what do you think 698 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 5: about going back? I'm like, we'll be a coach and 699 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: He's like, you okay with that? I'm like, hell, yeah, 700 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 5: let's go. I don't care what pain I'm meant for 701 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 5: the next two hours, two. 702 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,879 Speaker 3: And a half hours, I'll be fine. Those poor people 703 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,240 Speaker 3: you had to sit down, Yeah, man. 704 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 5: They suffered more than I did. 705 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: James, Tony, it's been a pleasure. We did forty minutes. 706 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: About that. 707 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 5: Well, that means next week we only do twenty No no. 708 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 2: Week. 709 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, Appreciate you. 710 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: Guys, appreciate you. 711 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: Tony Boselli joining us and we're back with more after this. 712 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 3: It's a Liam Cohen Show. I'm a Jaguars Radio Network 713 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 714 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, continues 715 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: right now, and it. 716 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: Continues on the Jaguars Radio Network, presented by the University 717 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,440 Speaker 2: of Florida, number one university in the US News and 718 00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 2: World Reports, number one state for education. 719 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 7: J P. 720 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,359 Speaker 2: Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, forty minutes with Tony Boselli and James Gladstone. 721 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 3: That was good stuff. 722 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,080 Speaker 2: Holy smokes, that was good stuff, you know, And I 723 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 2: appreciate them taking the time to do this during training 724 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 2: camp when the head coach is incredibly busy, because it 725 00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 2: makes our job easier. And and you know what, I 726 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 2: get wildly entertained. Entertained by hanging out with those two guys. 727 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 2: You learn a lot about the operation and how this 728 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,080 Speaker 2: offseason's gone, their mindset of the GM and what he's 729 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 2: looking for. I mean, it's just fascinating to hear. Yeah, 730 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 2: it's it's good stuff, and I can't wait for the 731 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: next next Thursday. 732 00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 3: I guess they're back next Thursday. Yeah, that's what they 733 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 3: just said. I guess. Okay, I guess they say. 734 00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,360 Speaker 2: So they have established now that they're they're going to 735 00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 2: be on for forty minutes. 736 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 3: So you know, that's what it is. You know, it 737 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 3: is what it is. It's certainly what it is. 738 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 2: Let's come back in a moment, and we've got to 739 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 2: dig into some position group battles when we come back. 740 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 3: How about that. I'm all for it. 741 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 2: Okay, let's do the not on big guy categories. Yeah, 742 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 2: because like you said, there's no there's no football happening yet. 743 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 2: It's the Liam Cohen Show on Jaguars Radio. 744 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,000 Speaker 5: Welcome Back. 745 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida continues 746 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: right now. 747 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 2: Welcome back j P. Shadrick with Jeff Logman on Liam 748 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 2: Cohen Show. The head coach will join us at the 749 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,960 Speaker 2: start of the regular seasons. Thanks again the James Gladstone 750 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: Tony Boselli for joining us. How many of you want 751 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 2: to see the Prowler throwbacks come back this season? Be 752 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 2: sure to check out the Predict the Prowlers Sweepstakes on 753 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,279 Speaker 2: Jags Social channels today through August fifth, and you can 754 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: guess which game or games we may wear them this 755 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 2: season for a chance to win an autographed Prowler throwback jersey. 756 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,440 Speaker 2: So check out Jaguars Social channels today and the Predict 757 00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,839 Speaker 2: the Prowlers Sweepstakes. 758 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 3: Looking forward to. 759 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 2: That, well, I got to say that incredibly refreshing listening 760 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 2: to James Gladstone when he talked about the evaluation process 761 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 2: of players and how you know the evaluation process has 762 00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: got to include the contact, the physicality, actual football, actual football, right. 763 00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: He was not saying that the combine is a throwaway tool, 764 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 2: but he was saying that there are things that are 765 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,320 Speaker 2: incredibly important, and that is the football aspect of it, 766 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 2: of actually playing football, you know, and I'm not trying 767 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,320 Speaker 2: to point to anybody that has been here or anybody 768 00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 2: at any other organization, but if you want to find 769 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,440 Speaker 2: the best football players, okay for your team, watch when 770 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: they've played football and evaluate that part of it and 771 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 2: not so much the forty times the. 772 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 4: Four cone or. 773 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: Broad jump or vertical jump or all these other things. 774 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,200 Speaker 3: Look, I think that's all interesting. 775 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,920 Speaker 2: Okay, do you have numbers attached to them and you 776 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,799 Speaker 2: can grade players and rate players. Yeah, And it's an 777 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 2: easy way analytics wise, is it. Well this guy he's 778 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 2: faster than this guy, and this guy, well, Look, the 779 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 2: hard part and the part that AI and analytics can't evaluate, 780 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,400 Speaker 2: is if a guy's a good football player. I mean, 781 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,600 Speaker 2: the trained eye has to be able to evaluate that. 782 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: And that point of view, to me is incredibly refreshing. 783 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,480 Speaker 2: And that one of the reasons why I'm very excited 784 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: about the three guys that are in place right now. 785 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 2: Tony's a football guy, James is a football guy, believes 786 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 2: in watching and evaluating football, and obviously Liam Cohen is 787 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,719 Speaker 2: a football guy. And the one thing that I love 788 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640 Speaker 2: about Liam the more that I watch him. Only been 789 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 2: around him a little bit, but watching him, I love 790 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,839 Speaker 2: the edge that he has. I think there's I think 791 00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,279 Speaker 2: all coaches need to have a lot. People have to 792 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,360 Speaker 2: have a little bit of an edge to be successful 793 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: in this game. And I'm excited about the three of 794 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 2: those guys. I think this organization is in great hands. 795 00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 3: Let's come back in a moment. 796 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,920 Speaker 2: We'll get to some of those position battles we promised 797 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 2: some skill guys. 798 00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,560 Speaker 3: Sorry to distract you there. It's a great comment. Yeah, 799 00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:27,239 Speaker 3: we love hearing from it. It's been a while. I 800 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:28,080 Speaker 3: know it's been a while. 801 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 4: This is The Liam Cohen Show and the Jaguars Radio Network. 802 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 3: Welcome back. 803 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,920 Speaker 1: The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, continues 804 00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: right now. 805 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,279 Speaker 2: J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logman, Glad you're with us. We 806 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: are back for the twenty twenty five season. It is 807 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:47,160 Speaker 2: The Liam Cohen Show. James Gladston, Antony Boselli joining us 808 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 2: earlier in the program, looking forward to the podcast version 809 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 2: of that go check that out again. 810 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 3: Position battles. 811 00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 2: As they were talking about logs it's kind of hard 812 00:39:57,360 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 2: to look at the trenches right now, but in terms 813 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 2: of skill, guys both sides of the ball give me 814 00:40:04,840 --> 00:40:08,800 Speaker 2: the most intriguing position battle on each side, offense and 815 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 2: defense right now. I think the two position groups that 816 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 2: we had talked about during Happy Hour, to me are 817 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,160 Speaker 2: the most interesting. Running back I think is going to 818 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,000 Speaker 2: be highly competitive, and I think there will be some 819 00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 2: changes on a week to week basis until they find 820 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 2: a hot hand in some situations. 821 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:28,800 Speaker 3: The third down. 822 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 2: Back position is going to be up for grabs, just 823 00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,440 Speaker 2: like I think the workhorse position is going to be 824 00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,600 Speaker 2: open for competition. I don't think there will be one 825 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: guy that fulfills both roles. I think that will be 826 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 2: divvied up between two guys and maybe even three guys 827 00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,479 Speaker 2: at some point. The defensive backfield, I think is also 828 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 2: very interesting to me, and it starts with a conversation 829 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 2: about Travis Hunter. How much will he be available, what 830 00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 2: packages will he be a part of, which packages will 831 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 2: he not be a part of. And I think that 832 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 2: leads into Okay, now that you've established that, now you 833 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 2: kind of know where the battles for the rest of 834 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 2: it are. But until you know the roles and define 835 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,719 Speaker 2: the playtime amount and the packages for Travis Hunter. I 836 00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 2: think then you really don't know where it's going to 837 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,800 Speaker 2: be at. But I can tell you this, whether Travis 838 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 2: Hunter is playing defense or not, there is an interesting. 839 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 3: Battle going on with that whole back end. 840 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 2: If there is one guy that maybe has a lot, 841 00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 2: it's Tyson Campbell George Lewis. Other than that, I think 842 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:43,080 Speaker 2: that there's open competition there at all the other positions 843 00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: in the background. 844 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 4: And as Kevin Ellie said today, you know it might 845 00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 4: not be over. 846 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 2: It could be a week to week. Let's see who 847 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 2: is the better matchup. Right, Hey, maybe we don't need 848 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:55,600 Speaker 2: Travis on defense this week because the matchup's not great, 849 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: or we have a better matchup somebody who matches up 850 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 2: against their receivers better, or you know, that could change 851 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 2: the whole dynamic. 852 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 3: You know, they really can. 853 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 2: And I think that's going to be a fun to watch. 854 00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,400 Speaker 2: And you know a lot of times, like when you 855 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 2: talk about your opinion on something like when it comes 856 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 2: to a stock or something like that, you know you 857 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: have a you know what is it. You're bullish on 858 00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,760 Speaker 2: something or your bearish or whatever. Yes, okay, I'm bullish 859 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,640 Speaker 2: on the back end the secondary for two reasons. One, 860 00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 2: I think they've added a lot of talent the two 861 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,800 Speaker 2: different ways that they could and free agency, then also 862 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:34,799 Speaker 2: with the draft. But then also because of Campanili or Campanelli, 863 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,120 Speaker 2: whatever you want to say his last name is. I 864 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: think that he's going to bring a standard of execution 865 00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:46,280 Speaker 2: to this defense that is going to make last year's 866 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 2: defense look even worse than really what it was. Because 867 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:53,200 Speaker 2: the Green Bay Packers in the past couple of years 868 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 2: have been incredibly thorough and an incredibly mistake free and 869 00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:02,200 Speaker 2: highly competitive, and I expect him to instill that same 870 00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:05,400 Speaker 2: thing here in Jacksonville. Come back in a moment, Final 871 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,360 Speaker 2: thoughts on the opening Liam Cohen Show of the season 872 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,399 Speaker 2: on Jaguars Radio. 873 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,080 Speaker 1: Welcome Back The Liam Cohen Show, presented by Fresh from 874 00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: Florida continues right now. 875 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 2: The final couple of moments here on The Liam Cohen Show. 876 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:29,480 Speaker 2: JP Shadick with Jeff Logoman. The upcoming schedule for the Jaguars. 877 00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:34,359 Speaker 2: They'll practice tomorrow morning at eight forty five or eight 878 00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 2: forty or so officially, so that'll be open to the public. 879 00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 3: Of course. 880 00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:41,719 Speaker 2: Jaguars dot Com Slash training camp players off Saturday then 881 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: they're back at it. Logs on Sunday in spider pads. 882 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,320 Speaker 2: The shoulder pads come on Monday and Tuesday before and 883 00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 2: off day Wednesday. Yeah, I mean, I'm gonna be here 884 00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,120 Speaker 2: tomorrow with you, and I'm more obvious with being announced 885 00:43:56,120 --> 00:44:00,200 Speaker 2: in practice, but the excitement to me really stars it's 886 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,719 Speaker 2: on Monday when the pads get real. And the one 887 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 2: thing I will say, I appreciate and Liam Cones's interview today, 888 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,880 Speaker 2: he was asked a question about pads and all of that, 889 00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,919 Speaker 2: and along the lines of what Jane Fladstone said about 890 00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,719 Speaker 2: the evaluation process pads is the most important thing and 891 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 2: contact and playing football. Liam Cones said that he's going 892 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 2: to take advantage of every opportunity that he can with 893 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: the pads to get his team ready to play football. 894 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,000 Speaker 2: And I love hearing that because just like you said 895 00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: and they said that, you know, to evaluate football, you 896 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:35,920 Speaker 2: got to do the football things. Thanks to James Gladstone, 897 00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,160 Speaker 2: Tony Basselli, Joe Fortunado, Brent Reever, David Shoe, our entire 898 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: crew for Jeff Logerman, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank you for 899 00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 2: listening to the Liam Cohen's Joe and the Jaguars Radio Network,