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Under President Trump, 32 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 6: America's laws, border and families will be protected. 33 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 7: Sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 34 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 8: She's like, you're going to learn that in life sometimes 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 8: having exposure to disadvantage is truly the advantage because most 36 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 8: of us don't really know what we're doing. We just 37 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 8: pretend to know, and so you just need to put yourself. 38 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: Out all right. Gosh, welcome back, Alisia. This is a 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: very special episode. We're back home and we got Aisha 40 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: bo So this is a first of sorts. They always say, 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 1: like the smartest people. When I was a kid, they like, 42 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 1: you're a rocket scientist, Like. 43 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 4: Take a rocket scientist to figure it out. Yeah for sure, 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: Well maybe it does. 45 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: Well, we have a rocket scientist, so X, NASA scientist 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: and Stemboard CEO and now is an entrepreneur and she 47 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: has a company called Lingo where she teaches kids about 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: stem It's recognized by in five thousand as one of 49 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: the fastest growing companies. Recently raised two million dollars. And 50 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 1: you see the rounds, right, and you have a few 51 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: other businesses as well. And it's a good conversation because 52 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: started from struggling academically community college to literally being what 53 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: is known as the smartest profession in the world. Can 54 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: we mention the space thing? 55 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 8: Absolutely? 56 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 4: And then definite. 57 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, So she's also the first African American woman astronaut 58 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: with Blue Origin, right, and that is a space program 59 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: with NASA that's actually set to launch, I believe in 60 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: fall September. 61 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: September, Well, you got to mention the founder of Florid 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 2: and guys that we may know, Jeff Bezos. 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, And so you're going to go out 64 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: of space in September. One of the few people ever 65 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: in the history of the world to go out of space. 66 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: If you look at it, it's very few people in 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: the history of the world that is actually going out 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: of space. I believe you're one of the only the 69 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: only three black women have ever gone out of space. 70 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 9: Right, but I'll be so astronaut, rocket scientists, entrepreneur, stem enthusiast, teacher, 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 9: and UH relationship expert as well. 72 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: We talked about the motivational speaker. 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: Motivational speaker, you have a you have a book too. 74 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 8: Right, working on the book, working on the book. 75 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: So yeah, this is a lot. There's a lot to unpack. 76 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: The first and foremos, thank you for joining us, appreciate. 77 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 8: It, Thank you for inviting me. 78 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: All right, and you're from DC, right and blue exactly. 79 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 4: I greeted you by saying, go blue. So congratulations to them. 80 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 4: We are sorry for what happened to our alliance, but 81 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 4: there's always next year. 82 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: So congrats again to the yout them. 83 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 8: What we say about that, right, The moral of the 84 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 8: story is when you're up, stay up, don't stop working 85 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 8: when you think you're ahead. 86 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 1: That's a fact. Life lesslie, that's a fact. So let's 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: get into this. I want to talk about the entrepreneurship, 88 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 1: talking about space, talking about all of that stuff. But 89 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: let's start at the beginning. So how do you actually 90 00:04:56,680 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 1: go from struggling in high school to going to community 91 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: college to becoming a rocket scientist at NASA. That seems 92 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: like that's a track to somebody that is a genius 93 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: early on in school, that has straight a's, that is 94 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: advanced algebra, and what exactly is a rocket scientist? Anyway? 95 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 8: I think that what happens in life is that when 96 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 8: you're growing up, you listen to what people around you say, 97 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 8: and you think they know, but oftentimes they're just guessing 98 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 8: they don't really know. And so at that point in 99 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:34,679 Speaker 8: time in my life, I wasn't focused on the books 100 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 8: because there was a lot of other stuff going on 101 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 8: at home. They were lucky if they saw me, and 102 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 8: I was happy to occasionally be there, but I was 103 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 8: focused on just making it through the day, not so 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 8: much making the grades. And so what happened was I 105 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 8: leave this high school environment after, you know, talking to 106 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 8: guidance counselors and things, and so the famous kind of 107 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 8: story here is that my high school guidance counselor suggested 108 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,200 Speaker 8: that I should be a cosmetologist. And that was like 109 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 8: the first time that I actually felt mad. And there's 110 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 8: really nothing against it. It was that that was all 111 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 8: that she thought I was capable of being. And I 112 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 8: started asking myself, why do I think the way that 113 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 8: I do about what's possible for me? Like who really 114 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 8: tested whether or not what people are telling me is 115 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 8: true or not? So I end up in community college 116 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 8: not doing all the first semester, and I have this 117 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 8: moment where it's like. 118 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: God, your GP in high school two point three one three, 119 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: So that's like a C average, right, because two point 120 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,360 Speaker 1: ohero is a C average. Three point ohs a B 121 00:06:37,440 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: average right, four point ohs a A average. So you, like 122 00:06:40,480 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 1: a CUSC C student shout out to the C students. 123 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: C's get degrees. 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 8: The C students are running the company's AC start working. 125 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: C students run the world. 126 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 4: C students are running this company right now. 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 8: I have this paper at my house to this day 128 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 8: as motivation, literally, like I look at it. I want 129 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 8: to make it into cleanex tissues so people could boo 130 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 8: whoo into it when they visit me, because it really 131 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 8: shows like it's not where you start, it's how you finish. 132 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 8: And I still say this day, don't know why we 133 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 8: need to measure it to three one three, But they 134 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 8: did that. So two point three would have been fine. 135 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: So two point three GPA in high school, you go 136 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: to community college and you just all right? So what 137 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: happens at community college? 138 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 8: So I like bomb the first semester. I think I'm 139 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 8: going to be a business student, study economics, econ had 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 8: math in it. I didn't know how to study, didn't 141 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 8: have any self confidence. I find myself in my room. 142 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 8: It's like dark, dramatic, it's everything. It's like I just 143 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 8: don't know what I'm gonna do. And I have this thought, well, 144 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 8: why do you think that you're not capable of anything great? 145 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 8: Like why do you get up every day and look 146 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 8: at yourself and feel bad? Like why do you allow that? 147 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 8: And so I thought, but I was gonna just do 148 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 8: something crazy like take out a piece of paper and 149 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:59,239 Speaker 8: make a dream list and escape to this fantasy land. 150 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 8: But then I realized, like in the Immortal Wards of Tupac, 151 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:03,760 Speaker 8: the dreams are. 152 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Real, rest and peace of pop. 153 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 4: That's a fact. 154 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,920 Speaker 8: So this list, which I you know to this day, 155 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 8: I remember it was very short, very simple. I want 156 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 8: to look at myself and feel good, right, I want 157 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 8: to say my name and feel respected. I want to 158 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 8: go to college. And if I go to college. I 159 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 8: want to study something that is outrageous, that's impressive that 160 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 8: every single time I introduce myself, I'm going to feel 161 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 8: proud to say. And I kind of put in rocket 162 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 8: science because that's the thing, right, Like that's like the 163 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 8: unachievable dream. And so it was sort of like this 164 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 8: hitting the prayer, but it was like this hidden prayer 165 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 8: of like, well, look, if I put this in there, 166 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 8: then like I will truly know that God is real, 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 8: I will be good for the rest of my life. 168 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 8: But that that was the list. 169 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: So okay, so you have this awakening after the first 170 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: semester in junior college that you want to be a 171 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: rocket science Yeah, so then you start doing better in school. 172 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: I'm assuming, let's tell. 173 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 4: You, like, because I don't even feel like that. 174 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: It almost seems like I want to do better, but 175 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 2: sometimes I just may not have the capability. Had you 176 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 2: always had the capability to be a great student, especially 177 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: in mathematics or was that something that you found after 178 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 2: this moment, this epiphany. 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 8: In a sense, So I think what I found was 180 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 8: the courage to try, because when I started telling people 181 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 8: about my dream, they're all like, oh, no, you're crazy, 182 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 8: that's never going to happen. Da da da da da. 183 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,960 Speaker 8: Like nobody was a fan. They literally thought that I 184 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 8: had lost it. And so that actually allowed me the 185 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 8: safe space to just focus in on myself and what 186 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 8: I wanted to do. It was like a blessing in disguise. 187 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,079 Speaker 8: I just kind of get to go in stealth mode. 188 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,319 Speaker 8: And it wasn't an overnight success. It was as though 189 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 8: I was consistently accomplishing small things that turned into bigger things. 190 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 8: So while I transitioned out of Community College to Michigan Aerospace, 191 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 8: I think I filled every single class that first semester 192 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 8: Michigan Eraro. But that's okay. I took the beating and 193 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:05,840 Speaker 8: was like, well, if I made it this far, I 194 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 8: can continue to make it. And so I realized that 195 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 8: there was no such thing really as failure. It was 196 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 8: just more learning. Right, some of those lessons are going 197 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 8: to hurt more than others, but if you can be 198 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 8: informed by them, then you can succeed. So like the 199 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 8: second time, maybe I take that class and get a B. 200 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 8: And that's what I committed to. I just committed to 201 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 8: the process and to the long game, and over that 202 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 8: I got better and better until I got to the 203 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 8: point where I was like, there isn't anything that I 204 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 8: can't do that I can't come back from. I know 205 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,400 Speaker 8: what it's like to be broke. I know what it's 206 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 8: like to be hungry. I know what it's like to 207 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 8: have no hope. So what is it if I see 208 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 8: a grade and perceived failure? No, take it again and 209 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 8: do it again. 210 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: So you go from community college to ann Arbor, Michigan. 211 00:10:52,200 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 8: Would you study at Michigan aerospace engineering and space systems engineering? 212 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: From a financial standpoint? Is that in your mind right? 213 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 2: Because you're thinking community college is going to cost me 214 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 2: one thing, I'm going to the University of Michigan. This 215 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 2: is this is going to be an expensive process. I 216 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 2: have to make it right, Like failing classes is one 217 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: thing in high school because it's like, yeah, you can 218 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 2: do a summer school and do it. You fail in college, 219 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: there's a price associated with that, and redoing it, there's 220 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 2: a price associated with that. So how much did the 221 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: financial impact of what you the decisions you would make 222 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 2: in and have on you. 223 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 8: That's such a good question. You know that first semester 224 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 8: when I failed all those courses at Michigan because that 225 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 8: was real money, right, I was living off of like 226 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 8: three hundred dollars a month and some of those classes 227 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 8: six hundred dollars a credit hour. I literally took out 228 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 8: a life insurance policy on myself so that if I 229 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,040 Speaker 8: died during college, my parents wouldn't have to pay that 230 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 8: money back because I didn't I mean, I didn't come 231 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 8: from people who could pay for college, and so here 232 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 8: I am. I got in. I'm terrified, I'm failing classes, 233 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 8: and all I can think about is how I don't 234 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 8: want to stick somebody else with that debt. 235 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 4: A real thought, It's a real thought. 236 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 2: So is that further more encouragement to say, I have 237 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 2: to do this, this is my path. 238 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 4: Now I've decided to do it. 239 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 2: I have to make it so when you when you fail, 240 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 2: you're allowed to take because sometimes you start failing courses 241 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,719 Speaker 2: and you know, they call you into administration like. 242 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 4: Hey, this this may not be for you. We may 243 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 4: have to let you go from the school. 244 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean I definitely had a few of those meetings, 245 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 8: but I just I refuse to commit to the idea 246 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 8: that I couldn't do it. I was just like no, right, Like, look, 247 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 8: if I can go from being in high school and 248 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 8: not doing so well, to being in community college to 249 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 8: being at this point I'm gonna make it out, and 250 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 8: between taking more classes than I probably should have so 251 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,959 Speaker 8: I could have gotten out sooner, which didn't necessarily help distress. 252 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 8: I think I lived on red Bull and Burritos for 253 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 8: at least a year. Everything that I encountered just made 254 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 8: me feel like, when I leave this place, I want 255 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 8: to rewrite the script on how people do this, because 256 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 8: you can and you will to. 257 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: By the time you graduate from Michigan, what was your GPA? 258 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 8: Oh I nearly four pointed my masters? 259 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Huh, sorry, So you get it together. You graduate from 260 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: from college, right then you go to you have a 261 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: master's program that you go, Yeah, where is that? 262 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 8: Also at Michigan? 263 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: So you say, in Michigan, be a master's program? What's 264 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: the masters? 265 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 8: So my master's is in space systems engineering with a 266 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 8: focus on nanosatellites, like satellite the size of a shoebax. 267 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: So by that time, you you're fully entranced into the 268 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: academic world and you're you're doing good. 269 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 8: Yes, But the cool part about this part was I 270 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 8: transitioned from a program that was mostly theoretical to a 271 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 8: program that was practical, like we were doing real things, 272 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 8: we were building with their hands, and that type of 273 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 8: learning I got. I'm not necessarily like a design and 274 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 8: airplane on the back of a napkin person. But if 275 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 8: you give me something and you tell me to make something, 276 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 8: then I can do it. And that's when I really 277 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 8: learned about the power of like learning styles and like 278 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 8: if you don't learn something the first time, it's not 279 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 8: because you can't learn it, it's that you may not 280 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:10,880 Speaker 8: have found the person that can teach it to you 281 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 8: in the way that you learn. 282 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, that's the problem with American school and 283 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: they only teach in one way exactly. So okay, so 284 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: now you figure that out. You graduate from your master's 285 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: program flying colors. 286 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 4: Yes, can you say the degree again? 287 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 8: Space systems engineering? 288 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: Space systems Engineering. So what happens after that? 289 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 8: So I have this amazing conversation and I want to 290 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 8: like shout out to all those people who see more 291 00:14:41,880 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 8: than you than what's on paper. I'm getting ready to 292 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 8: graduate and I meet somebody who is running an engineering 293 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 8: program at NASAIN Silicon Valley, and it was my job 294 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 8: to take them on a tour the school. You know, 295 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 8: do all those things you do when you're just trying 296 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 8: to get out of college. And he says to me, hey, 297 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 8: I think you should apply. I think you'd be really 298 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 8: good for this job. And I was like, look, I 299 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 8: understand that I'm doing well now, but I came from 300 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 8: all of this, you know, all this background, and I'm 301 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,880 Speaker 8: not really sure that I can make it. And he 302 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 8: looked me downe the eye and he was like, what 303 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 8: you've been through counts for something, right, He's like, you're 304 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 8: going to learn that in life sometimes having exposure to 305 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 8: disadvantage is truly the advantage because most of us don't 306 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 8: really know what we're doing. We just pretend to know, 307 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 8: and so you just need to put yourself out there. 308 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 8: I still didn't give him my resume. It's terrible. I 309 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 8: should have done it the first time. But then he 310 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 8: sent me an email the next week and he was like, look, 311 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 8: I just need you to send me your resume so 312 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 8: that I can round out my recruiting efforts at this school. 313 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 8: And it was at that moment that I was like, 314 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 8: why am I going to be another person that doubts me? 315 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 8: There are so many other people who do that, who 316 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 8: invest in doing that. I've just had someone tell me 317 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 8: that everything that I overcame matters. Let me put myself 318 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 8: out there, and that's how I ended up getting the 319 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 8: internship and then six years later I was still there. 320 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: Prior to the internship at NASA, what was the goal, right, 321 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 2: you have this degree, but when you went to school, 322 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 2: you had the idea, I'm going to get this degree, 323 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 2: but I'm going. 324 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 4: To be what what was it? 325 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't know. I didn't know. 326 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 5: Look. 327 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 8: Look, I literally had like what three or four goals 328 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 8: and I had accomplished them, and I was in school 329 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 8: like I don't know, because I didn't think anyone was 330 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 8: going to hire me. I mean, there isn't exactly a 331 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 8: NASA in Michigan. I had never been. Oh, I don't 332 00:16:37,720 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 8: know anywhere without my parents. I had no idea where 333 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 8: I was going to go and what I was going 334 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 8: to do. I just knew that I was going to 335 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 8: have a degree, and I was told that people needed 336 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 8: a degree. 337 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:49,080 Speaker 1: So once you start, you get the internship in NASA, 338 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: and then you get a permanent job in NASA, and 339 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: then that job is what scientists job. 340 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 8: I was working as a mission engineer for the Small 341 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 8: Spacecraft Division. Okay, because I get there, I have a badge, 342 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 8: I'm supposed to be there. I'm looking around and I'm like, 343 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 8: this is dope. I love everything about it. And I 344 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,680 Speaker 8: start asking questions in meetings and I'm like, I spent 345 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 8: all this time questioning myself and I should have been 346 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 8: questioning you, because you get into these rooms and it's 347 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 8: the same style of thinking over and over and over again. 348 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 8: And the questions I'm having are being welcomed, and the 349 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 8: things I'm working on are making progress, and I'm like, oh, no, 350 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 8: you need me now, Now I have confidence. Now I'm 351 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 8: going to stay here. And so I transitioned from that 352 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 8: internship into that job. 353 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: So what were you doing as your job? What's your job? Details? 354 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,160 Speaker 8: Job was fun. The first couple of years. We're working 355 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,360 Speaker 8: on small spacecraft and our objective was to build car 356 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 8: seats for nanosats, because you want to make sure that 357 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 8: your satellite gets there safely on that bumpy ride out 358 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 8: of the atmosphere. That was fun. I got to travel around, 359 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 8: I got to meet a lot of interesting people and 360 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 8: stand out some small now large space companies. The next 361 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 8: opportunity I had was working on commercial aviation. So you 362 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 8: know when you fly to point A, from point A 363 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 8: to point B. You ever wonder how you might have 364 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 8: left late but got there on time, that's us because 365 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 8: we optimize the trajectories for different situations when you're going 366 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 8: through the neighborhood. So NASA, FAA, private research all get 367 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 8: together to make sure that you can fly safely and efficiently. 368 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 8: And so my publications are on flight trajectory optimization for 369 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 8: the commercial airspace. 370 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: So what exactly does that mean? That means that you 371 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: are taking a left when you should have been taken 372 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: a right so you can get there quicker. 373 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 8: Means you get a shortcut, taking a shortcut, taking a. 374 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 1: Shortcut, but you mapped out the roadmap in the sky 375 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,199 Speaker 1: to see what the most efficient way of traveling is. 376 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 8: Yes, so that means a big effort, right. We got 377 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 8: a lot of players on the team, but that was 378 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 8: essentially what all of my research was on and looking at. 379 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 8: When you're getting these shortcuts, how do you minimize the 380 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 8: field burns? You can reduce emissions. 381 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 4: You're doing any emissions that you like, Studying wind patterns 382 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:03,440 Speaker 4: and all this tool. 383 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 8: Mostly maneuvers, Like what kind of maneuvers can you give 384 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 8: the pilots so that they can, you know, shorten the 385 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 8: route and maybe reduce to the speed from at certain 386 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 8: points so that you can apply more efficiently. 387 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: So how does the process of doing that? What do 388 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: you have to study to know that information? 389 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 8: So that comes down to radar locations, right, kind of 390 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 8: like where all the points are, what air traffic controls doing, 391 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 8: how much traffic is there? And then like you said, 392 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 8: weather things of that nature. I mean, we were really 393 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 8: looking at large scale stimulations and then putting forth ideas 394 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 8: about well if we make it a little bit more 395 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,639 Speaker 8: efficient here, then that's going to mean this there. 396 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 4: So this is an executive position. 397 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 8: No, I'm a worker bee, So I. 398 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 2: Mean it sounds really important, right, Like this is a 399 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,800 Speaker 2: very this is a very important position, especially when you're 400 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,639 Speaker 2: talking about commercial airlines. How much is somebody in this 401 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 2: space making at the position that you were at that time? 402 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:07,640 Speaker 8: Oh my goodness, I remember it was literally like one 403 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 8: hundred thousand and one cent, like literally on hundred thouan thousand, 404 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:17,679 Speaker 8: because I was obsessed with this idea of making six figures, right, 405 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 8: and so every single year I kept the list of 406 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 8: every single thing that I would do. And so this 407 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 8: is like a little bit of like a work suggestion, right, 408 00:20:27,480 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 8: I would take what the organization's objectives were I would 409 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 8: look at what I was doing and I would break out, Okay, 410 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 8: I went to this seminar, this, this supports this professional 411 00:20:37,040 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 8: development goal. I went to this thing in the community 412 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 8: that supports this goal, and I would have the receipts. 413 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:45,160 Speaker 8: And so whenever my supervisor went to review me, I'm like, well, 414 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 8: this is what I did. This is how many people 415 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 8: I impacted, this is how much time I spent. And 416 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 8: then here are all my publications, all my conferences. How 417 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 8: could you not mark me exceptional because I wanted those promotions. 418 00:20:58,400 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: So and then that's the last job that you have 419 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: had NASA. We had another job. 420 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 8: That was the last job I had at NASA. 421 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: And so what made you leave NASA. 422 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 8: I was going into the community and I was talking 423 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 8: to kids, and I was so excited to talk about 424 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 8: the work that I had worked so hard to be 425 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:18,000 Speaker 8: able to represent, and all they wanted to do was 426 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 8: talk about who I was and how I got there. 427 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 8: And I realized that there was a gap because those 428 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 8: students were like, wait a second, you mean this wasn't 429 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:30,840 Speaker 8: what you always wanted to do. You mean you didn't 430 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 8: know how you're going to pay for college. 431 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 4: But you did it. 432 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 8: And oh, by the way, you're wearing a pink blazer 433 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 8: and you're wearing makeup. How does all this fit together? 434 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 8: And after going to school after school, I was like, 435 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 8: there's a real disconnect here right, Like I can't go 436 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 8: into these classrooms and have the kids looking at me 437 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 8: like I'm an alien. I want to normalize this. So 438 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 8: how do I create a way to found a business 439 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,880 Speaker 8: that helps people realize that they can do this too? 440 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:00,720 Speaker 1: Started a business? 441 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 8: I had the idea, and I say it that way 442 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 8: because once again I didn't have successful family members that 443 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 8: I could go to for money or people that thought 444 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 8: that my idea was going to be anything. And so 445 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 8: I started the idea. And it took me two years 446 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 8: from having that idea to actually getting enough traction to 447 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 8: transition from my job to run the idea full time. 448 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: What was that that transition? Like you said that you 449 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 2: were the work would be, but now you're the entrepreneur. 450 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: We spoke to Robert Smith, who comes from engineering, and 451 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 2: that was one of those things for him as well. 452 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 2: It was all right, I'm I'm an engineer by trade, 453 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: but now I'm an entrepreneur. 454 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 4: I'm a CEO. What were you going through during those 455 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 4: two years while you're trying to figure. 456 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: Out, who were you leaning on to figure out how 457 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,520 Speaker 2: do I navigate this new space that I'm in. I'm 458 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 2: already a rocket scientist, but an entrepreneur this is new. 459 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. 460 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,919 Speaker 8: Well, one of the things that happened was I realized 461 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 8: how expensive it was to be knowledge poor, right, and 462 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 8: I had given up Delisa my permit, which now all 463 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 8: the way my parents are like what like what Like? 464 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 8: My mom was just like, there's just you mean, you're 465 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 8: giving up your jobs and now's the right for this business. 466 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 8: And I'm like, I'm going to be bigger than this business. 467 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,239 Speaker 8: You just don't know. And so I got up an 468 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 8: hour earlier and an hour later, and I started reading 469 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 8: about successful people. And one of the things that I 470 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 8: noticed was a lot of people had the destination in mind, 471 00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 8: but they had no idea how they were actually going 472 00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 8: to get to that point. It was just a series 473 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 8: of things that happened that may have looked fortuitous, but 474 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 8: was really the universe and their environment reacting to their 475 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 8: desire to get to where they wanted to go. And 476 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 8: so I'm meeting people, I'm making connections, I'm going to meetups, 477 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 8: I'm you know, hiring consultants and trying things and just 478 00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 8: a lot of failure. And all of this led me 479 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:05,200 Speaker 8: to finding mentors who I think they just recognize the 480 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 8: desire to figure it out, and we're willing to provide 481 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 8: a little bit more guidance to take me the rest 482 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 8: of the way. 483 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 1: So what's the first company that you started? 484 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 8: Stemboard? 485 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: So talk about that and you know challenges and the 486 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: idea and the vision behind it. 487 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 8: Started Stemboard a decade ago. We are an eight figure 488 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 8: business and I've got nearly fifty people working for me 489 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 8: full time in several states. I started the business literally 490 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 8: with the dollar and a dream, and it took maybe 491 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 8: I would say, three to four years before I really 492 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 8: started to see the revenue that validated that business. And 493 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 8: this is why I think, especially for minority entrepreneurs, it 494 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 8: is so expensive to be broke. If you can take 495 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 8: the time and you can do your side hustle and 496 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 8: let that side hustle build while you have a job, 497 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 8: I highly recommend it because all money I used to 498 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 8: spend trying to figure it out, going to conferences that 499 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 8: I didn't need to invest in, hiring people that I 500 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 8: didn't know what I was looking for and a hire. 501 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 8: I didn't have to worry about that as much because 502 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 8: I still had a job. When I transitioned out of 503 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 8: the job, all those gambles on talent and decisions just 504 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 8: became more weighty. But we are an engineering firm. We 505 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 8: support government clients, mostly large clients, and we were actually 506 00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:31,520 Speaker 8: been recognized not only by INK five thousand twice as 507 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 8: one of the fastest growing companies in America, but BUY 508 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 8: the Small Business Administration and by the Department of Defense 509 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 8: is one of the premier contractors. 510 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: So you. 511 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,919 Speaker 1: Do consulting work for what is that? He did your 512 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: company do? 513 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: So? 514 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 8: We provide engineering expertise in data science, data analytics, and 515 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 8: enterprise IT modernization, which can sound like a lot of words, 516 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 8: but basically we provide very good engineering advice when it 517 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 8: comes to data consulting. 518 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 4: So you make systems for these large companies to make 519 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 4: their businesses run easier. 520 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,639 Speaker 1: Yes, so you don't actually do to engineering work, you 521 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: just consult. 522 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 8: We actually do the engineering work. 523 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: Okay. 524 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, so my team is all engineer so we not 525 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 8: only consult, but we also implement. 526 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: So is an engineering firm? 527 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:18,000 Speaker 2: Yes? 528 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Speaker 1: Pretty? 529 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 2: So who is the you start do you start small 530 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: businesses and lead to large enterprises. Did you have connections 531 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: being in Silicon Valley but NASA? Did you rely on 532 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 2: those resources to help you get. 533 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 4: Your first clients? 534 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 8: So let me frame it this way. When I was 535 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 8: an engineer and I as a worker be i'd have 536 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 8: to go out. I've talked a whole bunch of people, 537 00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:40,840 Speaker 8: and one of the pieces of the device that I 538 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,680 Speaker 8: give is a lot of the people who have already 539 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,760 Speaker 8: hired you can be some of your first clients. And 540 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 8: so I essentially where I could right went back and said, hey, 541 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 8: I'm a business on my own. Now are there opportunities 542 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 8: for you either to come on as an employee or 543 00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 8: for you to support me? 544 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: And how did that go? 545 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 8: It went well, it went really well. There are a 546 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 8: lot of people who I worked with who were like, well, 547 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 8: I know what your reputation was when you were at NASA, 548 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,239 Speaker 8: and that's what attracted us to work with you now. 549 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,440 Speaker 1: So okay, So you get that up and running, and 550 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: then the next business that you start is the stem business. 551 00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: It is so talk about that. 552 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 8: I'm looking at stemboard, I'm saying to myself, we are 553 00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 8: going out there and we had this mission of a 554 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:38,560 Speaker 8: portion of revenue every year was going to be reinvested 555 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 8: back into the community because I wanted to from the 556 00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 8: ground up build a talent pipeline. That was my mission 557 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,360 Speaker 8: when I came out of NASA's I want to see 558 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 8: people and tell them my story and I want to 559 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 8: own the highlights and the low lights so that students 560 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 8: know that they can build their own businesses, that they 561 00:27:56,200 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 8: can change the future of their community. And that allowed 562 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 8: us as a company to say, we're going to take, 563 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 8: you know, minimum ten percent of the revenue that we generate, 564 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 8: and we're going to build our own educational programs, and 565 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 8: we're going to go into inner cities Baltimore, Atlanta, Saint Louis, 566 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 8: all these areas, and we're going to donate our time 567 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 8: and we're going to work alongside these kids, and we're 568 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 8: going to help them build companies. We're going to help 569 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 8: them apply for college. I mean, this is stuff that 570 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 8: we've been doing for the entirety of the foundation of 571 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 8: the company, and it ended up becoming such a needed 572 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 8: thing that it grew into its own company on its own. 573 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 8: And I you know, as somebody who never thought that 574 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 8: they were going to be an engineer, right I didn't 575 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 8: decide to do sinceil I was eighteen, and my academic 576 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 8: journey didn't really start to get good until I was 577 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 8: building with my hand and I could learn that, like 578 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 8: that fire, that passion that I had for hustle really 579 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 8: could translate to dollars. I wanted to bring that to 580 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 8: kids where they were and that's what LINGO is. We 581 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 8: spun it out, we grew it, and in the last 582 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 8: two years we've been put in the hands of nearly 583 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 8: ten thousand students. And one of my favorite things is 584 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 8: we support up bound. We're taught in schools. You know, 585 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 8: We've got everything from Princeton Day School as a client 586 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 8: to Albany State University in Georgia. Right, We've got HBCUs, 587 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 8: We've got PWIS. We have it all. And that to 588 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 8: me is what I truly feel is a legacy because 589 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 8: I don't need you to become an aerospace engineer, but 590 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,239 Speaker 8: I do need you to be successful, and I need 591 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 8: you to understand that you may not need a four 592 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 8: year degree to be successful. All you need is confidence 593 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 8: in yourself and a little bit of know how and 594 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 8: the ability to learn things on the Internet, and you 595 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 8: can make a lot of things in life happen. 596 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: How involved all with the selection of the students in 597 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 2: the schools because STEM has been set and that has 598 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: been pushed for the past I say, ten to fifteen 599 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 2: years inside of schools for those non STEM is science, Technology, Engineering, 600 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: and math. But it seems like, especially in the schools 601 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 2: I've been in, the STEM kids are the brightest kids 602 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 2: based on their grades. Right, So technically if that was 603 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 2: the case, then at the time you wouldn't even been 604 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 2: inside the program. So how are you making sure that 605 00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 2: it's curate from kids with all academic prowess? 606 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, so let me tell you a little bit about 607 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 8: how we architected the program. My head of the business 608 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 8: who runs education. He's the only person that I know 609 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 8: who had a lower high school GPA than me. He 610 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 8: did at one point eight, became a PhD nuclear science, 611 00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 8: the only black man to do it in the entire country. 612 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,959 Speaker 8: The year that he did it. Right, we all got 613 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 8: together as an executive team, we said, how do we 614 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 8: design this for people who don't have parents that can 615 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 8: help them with their homework and people who don't have 616 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 8: teachers that have the training to help them execute it. 617 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 8: So first thing was all of our lessons are online, 618 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 8: self paced modules. We are teaching you, the kids. The 619 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 8: other thing was we aligned it to national learning standards 620 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 8: so we can be taught as part of you know, 621 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 8: Next Generation Science Standards or CSTA K through twelve, which 622 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,240 Speaker 8: the importance for that is a lot of the schools 623 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,360 Speaker 8: are under pressure to teach the standard. Well, now you 624 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 8: can introduce our box as part of that standard. And 625 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 8: the other thing is we specifically go to areas that 626 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 8: need our help. Our idea is to be capacity building, 627 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 8: so we want to develop the content and we want 628 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 8: to train the teachers, and that's where we spend our 629 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 8: time empowering educators. I spent time teaching eighth grade and 630 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 8: East Saint Louis loved it, loved it. We'll be back 631 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 8: there again this year, and I've had students. So one 632 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 8: of my favorite lessons is what we call trap Lingo, 633 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 8: where we teach the kids that music is really like 634 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 8: voltage drops, right, And we had the kids code their 635 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 8: favorite songs and so all of a sudden, you have 636 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 8: meg on a micro controller and the kids don't want 637 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 8: to leave the class. And that kid's telling me that 638 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 8: he wants to be a producer and he wants to 639 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 8: make music and the parents coming in and saying, I 640 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 8: have no I ever had to come into the school 641 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 8: other than to take my kid after bad behavior. And 642 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 8: now he's telling me to come in and tell and 643 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 8: see what he built that day because he's proud of it. 644 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:09,920 Speaker 5: That is what we do. 645 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 8: And when you look at education, you guys know this well, 646 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,240 Speaker 8: there are very few things in the school district that 647 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 8: are actually made by us or made by an American company, 648 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 8: And like, that's what I want to contribute, right for me, 649 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 8: The legacy is the story, the idea that you can 650 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,640 Speaker 8: be anything and you can build anything. 651 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: So you have a STEM program that you have offerings 652 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: through different school districts, and you can purchase it as 653 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: a parent as well. 654 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 8: You can so you can go direct online and you 655 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 8: can buy from us. But what I like to do 656 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 8: is get corporations to pay for the kids. So our 657 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 8: whole strategy is to work with big corporations and they 658 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 8: then donated to the schools, Like we just worked with 659 00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 8: Wells Fargo to have them donate about twenty five thousand 660 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 8: dollars worth of product to a school in New Orleans. 661 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 8: That's how we operate because I don't want you as 662 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 8: a student to have to pay for that. I want 663 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 8: you to get that for free. 664 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 4: Right, that makes sense. It's like a company like Amazon 665 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 4: can come in by give it to a school district 666 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 4: and it's. 667 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: An online program. 668 00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 8: So it's two parts. They get the box that they 669 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 8: can build with at home. The box has a board 670 00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 8: that's open source, so you don't have to just do 671 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 8: our lessons. You can do any lesson that's a no 672 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 8: we know based online, which is why people really like it. Right, 673 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 8: you buy something a lot of times and you get 674 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 8: trapped into just what they made. You can do our stuff, 675 00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 8: you can do other lessons. You do that at home. 676 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 8: Our lesson box supports at least eight lessons. So you 677 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 8: go online, you get a class, you like it, great, 678 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 8: do another one. So it's a mixture of building at 679 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 8: home with your hands and being educated online. 680 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,320 Speaker 2: So this is if it sounds like it's an activity 681 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: base model or a project based model. 682 00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 8: That was the project based learning model, Well yes it 683 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 8: is Arc five motivation. 684 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 4: There you go. 685 00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: So the whole point of STEM is to get kids 686 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: out obviously more into science and technology and engineering and 687 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:09,520 Speaker 1: math with the career path of what being a computer programmer, coder, 688 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:11,920 Speaker 1: an engineer, like what's the career path? 689 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 8: So I like to look at this a little bit 690 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,240 Speaker 8: differently because I think that all careers now are STEM careers. 691 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 8: So I don't even think about it as you have 692 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 8: to be interested in science and math. I look at 693 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 8: it as do you have twenty first century skills? Like 694 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 8: can you interact with the environment around you? Like this 695 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 8: microphone is hardware, this phone is hardware, this camera's hardware. 696 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 8: So what I want is for students to feel empowered 697 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 8: to know that they can participate in this economy by 698 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 8: being able to build, and that they can create startups 699 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 8: and that they can raise money and that they can 700 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 8: try to be entrepreneurs on their own. That's really what 701 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 8: I'm after. 702 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 4: So is this domestic or does this have a global 703 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 4: international feel to it? 704 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: Right? 705 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 2: Because I feel like the brightest minds is everywhere, right, 706 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,440 Speaker 2: so you need to pick the entire globe. 707 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 4: So how did you guys go about doing that? 708 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,640 Speaker 8: So I've had the honor of being invited to keynote 709 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,880 Speaker 8: in a dozen countries. I'm a US State Department Global speaker, 710 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 8: and there was this trip that I went on to 711 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,840 Speaker 8: South Africa and it just changed my life. I was 712 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 8: at a school called bains Villa, and this girl or 713 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,320 Speaker 8: a cafeteria. They don't even have an auditorium, right, This 714 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,720 Speaker 8: little girls maybe like four feet five, stands up and says, 715 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 8: I'm really inspired by your story. But you need to 716 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 8: go back and you need to make something that the 717 00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 8: world can learn from. And you can give us a book, 718 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 8: but it's better if you make something that teaches the skill. 719 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:43,360 Speaker 8: Lingo was created as an independent business a year and 720 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 8: a half from that trip, and we now have been 721 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 8: used in nearly all of those keynotes as an English 722 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 8: language technical teaching tool because you don't even have to 723 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 8: know English to complete Lingo. We color coded it. So 724 00:35:57,120 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 8: I did a workshop in Bishkekstan and the students were 725 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,320 Speaker 8: able to finish their kit even though we had to 726 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 8: have a translator help us talk to each other. And like, 727 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 8: that's the power of this box, and like that's really 728 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 8: what I want to give to the world. I want 729 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,239 Speaker 8: to give the world hope and inspiration because if they 730 00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 8: can see me and black women teaching them how to 731 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 8: code online, they know that they can do that. And 732 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 8: pretty much everywhere people are looking for the playbook for success. 733 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: So as far as artificial intelligence is that part of 734 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: the program and what shit what you got to use 735 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: the article intelligence at NASA. 736 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 8: That was so when I was at NASA, there were 737 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,320 Speaker 8: definitely there was research on it, but that wasn't necessarily 738 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,800 Speaker 8: in our area and satellites. Now we're definitely employing that 739 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 8: with like machine learning algorithms and even some of the 740 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:56,160 Speaker 8: stuff that we're doing with lingo, right, creating custom learning paths, right, 741 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 8: having a being able to log into your account and 742 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,879 Speaker 8: have somebody that greets you and is like your lingo bot. 743 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 8: That's really where I think things are going. But AI 744 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 8: predated my career at NASA. 745 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 1: How important is how important is all? Right? Technology, that's important, 746 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:21,160 Speaker 1: right obviously, but science, engineering and math? How important is 747 00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:22,240 Speaker 1: that for the average person. 748 00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 8: I mean, I think it's really important, But I think 749 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,560 Speaker 8: it's all about like bringing it into perspective, right, Like 750 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 8: if somebody didn't have a decent concept of math or forces, 751 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 8: that chair wasn't going to hold you up. Same thing 752 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 8: with technology, microphone. I mean, some of the most amazing 753 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 8: things are electronics. Like the quality, it's it's insane. I mean, 754 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,839 Speaker 8: I think there's just like a lot of really really 755 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 8: practical things that people don't necessarily associate with stem subjects 756 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 8: that when you make them accessible, it becomes relatable and 757 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 8: thereby more interesting, and it helps you think better to 758 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 8: absolutely like, look, I'm a serial plant killer. I tell 759 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 8: anybody who wants to know, I kill plants. And I 760 00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 8: took this complaint into a meeting that I had with 761 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 8: my team, and the team was like, well, we can 762 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 8: make a temperature and humidity sensor, so you know, if 763 00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 8: that plan is thirsty, I'm like, bet bring it. And 764 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 8: one of the activities that we have now is plant 765 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,800 Speaker 8: health and so to be able to now go, I 766 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 8: can have a relationship with my plant, and I can 767 00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 8: build a sensor that goes into my plant to make 768 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 8: sure that my plan is health. 769 00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:37,440 Speaker 4: Earners, what's up? 770 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,680 Speaker 2: You have a walk into a small business and everything 771 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: just works like the checkout is fast, there, seats are digital, 772 00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:46,880 Speaker 2: tipping is a breeze, and you're out the door before 773 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: the line even builds. Odds are they're using Square. 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It's not just about payments, it's about giving 783 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 2: you time back so you can focus on what matters 784 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: most ready. To see how Square can transform your business, 785 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:31,560 Speaker 2: visit Square dot com backslash go backslash eyl to learn 786 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 2: more that Square dot com backslash, go backslash eyl. Don't wait, 787 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 2: don't hesitate. Let's Square handle the back end so you 788 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:46,319 Speaker 2: can keep pushing your vision forward. This episode is brought 789 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 2: to you by P and C Bank. 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Under President Trump, 815 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,520 Speaker 6: America's laws, border and families will. 816 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 7: Be protected sponsored by the United States Department of Homeland Security. 817 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 8: And that's them. Yes, but now you've just taken that 818 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 8: field and you've made it accessible, and who knows what 819 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 8: that person is going to create because they just felt 820 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 8: a censor for them to talk to the plant in 821 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:38,960 Speaker 8: their house. 822 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,920 Speaker 2: You got to talk to your plans. That's a fact. 823 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,319 Speaker 2: That's a fact. My mom has had the same plan 824 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 2: for over twenty seven years. Yes, I show you after 825 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,239 Speaker 2: this she talked, she knows, but that's natural she knows. 826 00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,080 Speaker 2: But to have a sense that makes it a lot easier. 827 00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 2: And in order to get the boss off the ground? 828 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:57,280 Speaker 2: Is this way you raise capital? 829 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 4: Yes to start lingal so, I mean, we know, we 830 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:01,120 Speaker 4: hear about it. 831 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 2: The percentages that minority founders, you know, are able to 832 00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 2: have access to. What was that like for you, obviously 833 00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,880 Speaker 2: being minority, being a woman a founder talk about that. 834 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 8: I really liked being an outsider in the sense it 835 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 8: was similar to when I started to start the business 836 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:22,359 Speaker 8: from NASA. At first, people were telling me, hey, you've 837 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 8: got to go with a pitch deck, go to the valley, 838 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 8: go to vcs. But the vcs weren't trying to rock 839 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 8: with me. They didn't think that there was a market 840 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,759 Speaker 8: for what I was looking to do. Business has been 841 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 8: around for ten years. Y're wrong, right, So one of 842 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 8: the things that I'd like to say is stop taking 843 00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,080 Speaker 8: advice from people who haven't done what you're trying to 844 00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 8: do with LINGO. I'm like, eh, I don't think I 845 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,960 Speaker 8: want to raise venture capital. I know what the stats are. 846 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 8: They're terrible. How do I look at the model and 847 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,600 Speaker 8: how do I flip the model on its head? Because 848 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,759 Speaker 8: that's what I do. And when I looked at it, 849 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,279 Speaker 8: I said, vcs get their money from family offices. Why 850 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 8: don't I try to hit up a couple of family offices. 851 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 8: Now I know why people don't typically hit up family offices, 852 00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 8: but I was determined once again to try, and I 853 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 8: had the time, and oh, by the way, I had 854 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:13,239 Speaker 8: the patience because I'm already running a business that's successful 855 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 8: that I've had for ten years. So let's try to 856 00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,040 Speaker 8: figure this out. So I made a list of family 857 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 8: offices who were in businesses that I thought that could 858 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 8: be strategic investors. And the gamble that I made was, well, 859 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,040 Speaker 8: if I can get a multi billion dollar family who 860 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 8: has the right investment mindset and is willing to support 861 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:35,680 Speaker 8: me and understands the long term of what I'm looking 862 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 8: to do, can I also bring in traditional capital, and 863 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:41,919 Speaker 8: the answer was yes. So I did a founder led 864 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 8: seed round where I brought in a million and a 865 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,880 Speaker 8: half from a family office, and then I went to 866 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 8: the other v sas and said, do you want to play? 867 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 1: How did that work out? 868 00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 8: It worked out well because if I've already brought in 869 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 8: a million and a half and you're going to chip 870 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 8: in one hundred thousand dollars, that million and a half 871 00:43:58,040 --> 00:43:59,560 Speaker 8: is going to help your hundred thousand dollars. So I 872 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 8: basically de risk around for you. And that's one of 873 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 8: the areas that I've been big on telling other minorities 874 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 8: to pursue is what I call friendly patient capital. I 875 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,839 Speaker 8: call my investors like they're my dad. I'm like, hey, 876 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 8: what do you guys do? And here's what I'm working on. 877 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 8: And part of the things that were not, you know, 878 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,200 Speaker 8: non negotiable for this family was that you were going 879 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 8: to do good and you were going to do well right. 880 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 8: It's not just the dollar, it's about the legacy. And 881 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,759 Speaker 8: so when I tell them that kids in Ghana are 882 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:34,279 Speaker 8: doing our kids have the video, love it. They're like, 883 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,680 Speaker 8: that's what you're supposed to do, right, go out and 884 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 8: make that impact, whereas some people who have you know, 885 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 8: domestic vcs are not necessarily as lucky to have people 886 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 8: who think in that way. 887 00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 1: So, okay, so you raise the money that helps you 888 00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,360 Speaker 1: with infrastructure and employees. I'm assuming, So are you raising 889 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 1: more money? What's to goal? 890 00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 8: Yes, you can definitely hit me up if you want 891 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:57,200 Speaker 8: to send a. 892 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: Check how much you're trying to raise. 893 00:45:01,640 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 8: I would like to raise about a million more and 894 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,799 Speaker 8: plot a path to our Series A. And I'll tell 895 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 8: you why. Some of our clients are big firms talking 896 00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 8: Semens General Dynamics. General Dynamics has been a customer's ours 897 00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 8: for the last three years. Microsoft buys from us, right, 898 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 8: we have big companies who have engineers who buy from US. 899 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,680 Speaker 1: What do they they buy the software, They buy the 900 00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:30,280 Speaker 1: kids so they can teach the employees. 901 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 8: They have their employees go into the schools, or they 902 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,160 Speaker 8: provide it as capacity building for the schools that they sponsor. 903 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 8: And as I started to do this, we started talking 904 00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 8: to school districts. Shout out to Syracuse School District. And 905 00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 8: I'm realizing that this mission and this need is even 906 00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 8: bigger than I knew. Like when I thought about it, 907 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:52,560 Speaker 8: I was like, oh, we're just going to ship out 908 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,759 Speaker 8: some kids, but it's really become about how can we 909 00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 8: help make a district better? And that is a problem 910 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,960 Speaker 8: of a much larger magnitude, and it takes more time. 911 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,120 Speaker 8: And we're also now building custom kids, like we're about 912 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:09,160 Speaker 8: to drop three whole space lessons. We got a climate satellite, 913 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 8: we got a buggy coming out. That buggy's a moon rover, 914 00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:16,280 Speaker 8: and we also have a rocket launch. And in building 915 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 8: all all this content, I'm like, you know what, bo, 916 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,359 Speaker 8: we need to take a little bit more capital, take 917 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 8: our time, and really do something that is going to 918 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:25,720 Speaker 8: move the needle. 919 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 4: How many lessons are inside these kids? 920 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,800 Speaker 2: Because I'm thinking, and this was an elementary middle school 921 00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,920 Speaker 2: and obviously high school probably different, but it felt like 922 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,400 Speaker 2: they were just for semesters, and so there was a 923 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,359 Speaker 2: semester worth of lessons and there was a new set 924 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,520 Speaker 2: of kids. So those four semesters of kids in the 925 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 2: grade every year. How many lessons are inside of your 926 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 2: kids right now? 927 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 8: So it depends on what you want. And this is 928 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 8: the beauty of it, because we design this to be flexible. 929 00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 8: You can have two to three semesters worth in your 930 00:46:58,000 --> 00:46:59,640 Speaker 8: kid if you want. It's all about what you ask 931 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,279 Speaker 8: us for. So we developed content for every lesson for 932 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 8: the classroom, and you could teach that over semester. You 933 00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:09,120 Speaker 8: could teach it over too. 934 00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:13,000 Speaker 1: So school districts aren't really buying it for you. For 935 00:47:13,040 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 1: the most part. Is corporations as buying it. 936 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,080 Speaker 8: It's mostly been corporations. If you're out in the district, 937 00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 8: hit me up. I mean, I think the challenge right 938 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,080 Speaker 8: is there's a lot going on in the district environment, 939 00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,160 Speaker 8: and we've got some good connections and we're making progress. 940 00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 8: But this is where I'm not ashamed to say I 941 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:35,520 Speaker 8: need help. The people who purchase from us, they love us. 942 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,200 Speaker 8: But I started to realize what we were really up 943 00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 8: against when it comes to like ads and marketing and 944 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 8: all that stuff. And that's really why I was like, 945 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,120 Speaker 8: I got to go back to the drawing board and 946 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 8: raise more money because I did not know how expensive 947 00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 8: it was to really advertise and read some of these people. 948 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,200 Speaker 4: Is it a price point issue? 949 00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 2: Because I feel like schools wet so much money on 950 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 2: some of the most ridiculous things, and they do it 951 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:03,560 Speaker 2: repetitively every single and so when you're approaching schools or 952 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 2: school districts, are they saying, well, it's the price point. 953 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 2: We don't have it in the budget this year. What 954 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,640 Speaker 2: is the resistance you feel? Because every school has them, 955 00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: so I'm just trying to feel what would be the resistance. 956 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 8: So we actually do not see resistance once we get 957 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,680 Speaker 8: in front of the right person. What I see is 958 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,160 Speaker 8: the amount of money that I have to invest to 959 00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 8: have somebody reach out, form the relationship, do the presentation, 960 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,399 Speaker 8: put the proposal in front of whoever has to make 961 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 8: the decision, close the deal and then get paid can 962 00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,799 Speaker 8: be roughly six to eight months, and that's really where 963 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 8: we have to support the operation until they can close 964 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:43,960 Speaker 8: the deal. And so the challenge in my mind is 965 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 8: how can we do more of these deals and shorten 966 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:46,600 Speaker 8: the time. 967 00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,400 Speaker 1: So what's the ultimate vision for the company. 968 00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 8: My vision for Lingo would be to not only be 969 00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:59,439 Speaker 8: a global provider of immersive STEM experiences like I would 970 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,200 Speaker 8: like to get to the point where some of our 971 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 8: boxes interact with Oculus, but to combine that with the 972 00:49:05,320 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 8: entrepreneurship thing. Because when I teach the Lingo box in 973 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 8: the Bahamas, and I've had this camp for nearly ten years, 974 00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 8: I couple it with entrepreneurship and then I give kids 975 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,400 Speaker 8: money to go out and try to run their business, 976 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 8: because I believe that you don't have to have a 977 00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,839 Speaker 8: college degree to be a multi millionaire. You just need 978 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,880 Speaker 8: to have entrepreneurship skills. And it's like a muscle. The 979 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,960 Speaker 8: more that you exercise it, the stronger that you're going 980 00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,480 Speaker 8: to get. So I want students trying to build their 981 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 8: first startup when they're twelve or they're thirteen, because by 982 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 8: the time they're twenty, they're going to be beasts. 983 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:42,320 Speaker 1: So how is it for you to be a go 984 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: from being an employee to be an entrepreneur? 985 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:46,840 Speaker 4: You know? 986 00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 8: I feel like my strength in this situation is knowing 987 00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,080 Speaker 8: that there's so much that I don't know. Like when 988 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,160 Speaker 8: I was an employee, when I would go to work 989 00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,640 Speaker 8: every day, all I wanted to do is be respective 990 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:04,400 Speaker 8: for the things that I know. And as an entrepreneur, 991 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:06,640 Speaker 8: all I want to do is go out and speak 992 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 8: to people and tell them that I don't know right 993 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,759 Speaker 8: so that I can be made better by the things 994 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,560 Speaker 8: that they know. That is my goal, just be able 995 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 8: to listen and support and have people improve the things 996 00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:20,800 Speaker 8: that I create. 997 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 2: That's not on the personal level as the entrepreneur, but 998 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 2: you're also the CEO. Yeah, and so there's people that 999 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 2: are relying on you for their leadership. So walking into 1000 00:50:30,719 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 2: that role, how's the dynamics been for you? 1001 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,400 Speaker 8: You know, like I shifted when he asked me that 1002 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:39,680 Speaker 8: question because the question really strikes at home because I 1003 00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:43,720 Speaker 8: spent so many years as a woman professional just wanting 1004 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,360 Speaker 8: to be seen as being good enough. And when I 1005 00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:51,120 Speaker 8: let go of that, I realized that my strength is 1006 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:54,200 Speaker 8: being authentic and being empathetic. And when I took a 1007 00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,719 Speaker 8: step back, I was crowding out the sun because I 1008 00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:59,759 Speaker 8: was trying to always lead and be strong and also 1009 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 8: other's stuff. And so when I said to the team 1010 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:07,040 Speaker 8: for both businesses, he I want to make space for 1011 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,760 Speaker 8: you to bring your gifts. That's really when I started 1012 00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,440 Speaker 8: to see exponential growth. So I have this concept of 1013 00:51:12,520 --> 00:51:15,879 Speaker 8: eighty twenty. You hire somebody eighty percent for the things 1014 00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:17,920 Speaker 8: on the resume that you know that they can that 1015 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,680 Speaker 8: they can do, and the twenty percent that they can 1016 00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:23,000 Speaker 8: bring to the table that you haven't discovered yet, and 1017 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 8: you cultivate that person and they will take you to 1018 00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:30,040 Speaker 8: places that you never you never knew that you would go. 1019 00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:35,640 Speaker 1: So let's talk about going to space. So what is 1020 00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,160 Speaker 1: the program that you're going out of space? How did 1021 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:41,319 Speaker 1: you get involved in that? And are you just going 1022 00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,759 Speaker 1: up coming back down? Is there observation that you're going 1023 00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:46,800 Speaker 1: to be doing when you're up? Like, what's what's happening 1024 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: with that situation? 1025 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 8: So I'm going to be flying the space on the 1026 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,040 Speaker 8: new Shepherd vehicle with Blue Origin. We will be coming 1027 00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:56,359 Speaker 8: up and we will be coming back down, and I'm excited. 1028 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: About how long will you be out of space? 1029 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 8: The total trip? So the round trip is a roughly 1030 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 8: I don't know, less than an hour, and it's about 1031 00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,880 Speaker 8: ten minutes of microgravity. 1032 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,479 Speaker 1: Ten minutes out of space. Yes, so twenty five twenty 1033 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:13,279 Speaker 1: minutes coming up, ten minutes out of space, then twenty 1034 00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: minutes come back go. 1035 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 8: I think so. And I think we got to fix 1036 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:16,920 Speaker 8: our hair before we can get out, so there's some 1037 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:17,640 Speaker 8: time there. 1038 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:19,760 Speaker 1: Sure. 1039 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,759 Speaker 8: So I will be the first to tell you that 1040 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,759 Speaker 8: I never thought that I was going to be leaving 1041 00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:29,440 Speaker 8: the Earth's atmosphere. I don't even like turbulence on commercial flights, 1042 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:34,239 Speaker 8: and so for me, this is a try it before 1043 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,800 Speaker 8: you buy it situation where I get to try space 1044 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 8: and it controls scenario. Once I started working at NASA 1045 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,239 Speaker 8: and meeting amazing astronauts. I never thought that I could 1046 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 8: be them. And this is what I like about life 1047 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 8: and karma in the world is like, right, when you 1048 00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 8: think that you can't be something, life will show you 1049 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:55,000 Speaker 8: that you can. And I said to myself many years ago, 1050 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,120 Speaker 8: one of these years, I'm going to apply to be 1051 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,200 Speaker 8: a NASA astronaut. I'm going to go to the International 1052 00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:01,800 Speaker 8: Space Station. And somehow I manage not to do it 1053 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,920 Speaker 8: for a year after year after year, and all of 1054 00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 8: a sudden, I have the opportunity to be a Blue 1055 00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,719 Speaker 8: Origin astronaut. And my goal is to complete this and 1056 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,400 Speaker 8: if I like it, which I'm probably gonna love it, 1057 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 8: I'm going to turn around. I'm going to apply to 1058 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:17,280 Speaker 8: be a NASA astronaut. 1059 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,960 Speaker 4: What's the preparation light for this? 1060 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,600 Speaker 2: I remember maybe it was last year they had Michael 1061 00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,279 Speaker 2: Strahan and he was going through it and they had 1062 00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:27,920 Speaker 2: to take some time off from Good Morning America. 1063 00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 4: What do you have to do? What are they putting 1064 00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,600 Speaker 4: you through to get you prepared for this moment? 1065 00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,440 Speaker 8: So they have a trading program in their facility in 1066 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,520 Speaker 8: Van Horn, Texas. That's mandatory. But in addition to that, 1067 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,880 Speaker 8: you can do a host of other things. And so 1068 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,640 Speaker 8: I'm participating in a microgravity flight. I'm looking to fly 1069 00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,160 Speaker 8: on a fight or flight with the jets, like real fast. 1070 00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,400 Speaker 8: I like to go fast. I'm looking to do a 1071 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 8: high altitude skydive. And then in addition to that, for me, 1072 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 8: this is about bringing it home. Right, there's so many 1073 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 8: you My family are like what is NASA doing for me? 1074 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:04,480 Speaker 8: What's space doing for me? Like why does any of 1075 00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:07,960 Speaker 8: this matter? And so I've been reaching out to organizations 1076 00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 8: HBCUs in high school so that I can either fly 1077 00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:16,239 Speaker 8: a patch for school or do experiments like I would 1078 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 8: like to partner with HBCU and do an experiment on 1079 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,840 Speaker 8: orbit right, or fly a sensor. I really want the 1080 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,600 Speaker 8: outcome of this to not be oh, you know, like 1081 00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,840 Speaker 8: that's like ten minutes I wanted to be. This was 1082 00:54:27,960 --> 00:54:33,760 Speaker 8: something that made me believe, or inspired someone to believe 1083 00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:36,200 Speaker 8: that they could reach for the stars and realize that 1084 00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:37,399 Speaker 8: it was only the beginning. 1085 00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 4: To take this flight. I know it's expensive. 1086 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,720 Speaker 2: So were you chosen, like did you have to apply 1087 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:49,480 Speaker 2: it to become one of the Bloori astronauts or was 1088 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,120 Speaker 2: there a sponsored event like Okay, this is the person 1089 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 2: we're putting forth as our choice. 1090 00:54:54,520 --> 00:54:59,400 Speaker 8: Yeah, it's really cool. I got a call all the 1091 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:03,759 Speaker 8: blue from this lady named Nancy Conrad, and it just 1092 00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,200 Speaker 8: so happens that that first day when I was at NASA, 1093 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,640 Speaker 8: when I had a badge and I was decided to 1094 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,520 Speaker 8: be there, I met Nancy. Nancy is the wife of 1095 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,880 Speaker 8: Pete Conrad, who's an apollo astronaut. I remember seeing her 1096 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,160 Speaker 8: and being like, wow, like one day I hope to 1097 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 8: speak with her. Fast forward right over a decade. She's 1098 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,200 Speaker 8: calling me and she's like, look, there's this mission coming up. 1099 00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:27,560 Speaker 8: I think you'd be a really really good fit. How 1100 00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 8: about you apply this time. I didn't say no. I 1101 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:35,279 Speaker 8: put my application forward and it happened to work out 1102 00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 8: that I was in the position to join the crew. 1103 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:42,200 Speaker 8: Now back to the money thing. Even if I had it, 1104 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,520 Speaker 8: I don't know if i'd want to spend it. And 1105 00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 8: the reason for that is there's a lot of support 1106 00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 8: for space and for science right and go to African proverb, 1107 00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,440 Speaker 8: it's like, if you want to go you know, fast, 1108 00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,120 Speaker 8: go alone. If you want to go far, go together. 1109 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,439 Speaker 8: So I went out to sponsors and I said, look, 1110 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 8: I want to know if you're going to back me 1111 00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 8: on this flight, and they have and so I'm getting 1112 00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:12,760 Speaker 8: ready to announce some significant brand partnerships. But we really 1113 00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:15,239 Speaker 8: are going to challenge the way that people look at 1114 00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 8: going to space, and I'm excited to have amazing brands 1115 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:18,759 Speaker 8: behind me to do it. 1116 00:56:19,160 --> 00:56:22,200 Speaker 1: So what is the purpose of going in space? You 1117 00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: work for NASA. You work for NASA, an organization that's 1118 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:29,760 Speaker 1: devoted for space. Some people debate if we ever actually 1119 00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,800 Speaker 1: got to the moon the conspiracy theorist out there, but 1120 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,279 Speaker 1: even if we did get to the moon, what really 1121 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,200 Speaker 1: had Like why was the purpose of going to the moon? 1122 00:56:41,560 --> 00:56:44,320 Speaker 1: You really think about it, right, Like, went to the 1123 00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,000 Speaker 1: Moon sixty years ago. I get it. It was a 1124 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: race against the Russians and we put the American flag 1125 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: on the moon, very typical of America. But when you 1126 00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:56,919 Speaker 1: really think about it, what's the point? 1127 00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:59,439 Speaker 8: But I'm like, those same people love their state ofllite 1128 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:00,839 Speaker 8: TV and their right. 1129 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: So that's the point. 1130 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 8: I mean, space for the benefit of Earth is really 1131 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,520 Speaker 8: the theme, and it's the theme of you know, Blue 1132 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 8: Origin and what happens is there's all this amazing research 1133 00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 8: that's done in space. Your memory from Mattress Space, there's 1134 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,960 Speaker 8: all the stuff that comes out of that, but people 1135 00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:23,200 Speaker 8: don't know that it came from space, and so they 1136 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:24,240 Speaker 8: don't associate with space. 1137 00:57:24,280 --> 00:57:26,600 Speaker 1: That's why I'm giving you to platform to educate people, 1138 00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 1: including myself, on the benefits of spending trillions of dollars 1139 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:32,720 Speaker 1: over the last fifty years of going to space. Like 1140 00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,160 Speaker 1: this is your open platform to educate the world on 1141 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:40,800 Speaker 1: the benefits of American tax dollars being spent to go 1142 00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 1: to space. 1143 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 8: So one of the things that I really enjoyed about 1144 00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:49,320 Speaker 8: working on space missions was it helped me understand how 1145 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:54,680 Speaker 8: much research is done in order to help humans fight 1146 00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:59,120 Speaker 8: diseases and infections that wouldn't be possible without space. And 1147 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 8: so one thing that happen weapons is if something is 1148 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 8: launched into space, it tends to mutate and it's called virulent. 1149 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:10,400 Speaker 8: And so you see researchers working with pharmaceutical companies to 1150 00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:14,640 Speaker 8: introduce new antibiotics and new treatments that if you can 1151 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,560 Speaker 8: kill it in space, you can kill it on Earth. 1152 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:22,080 Speaker 8: And so that directly relates to our ability to just 1153 00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 8: go outside right, to be able to interact. And I'm 1154 00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:30,080 Speaker 8: not talking about vaccines. I'm talking about basic things that 1155 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,200 Speaker 8: allow us to be able to better protect people. In 1156 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 8: addition to that technology, right when we look at the 1157 00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,200 Speaker 8: artificial heart valve, there are so many things that are 1158 00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,400 Speaker 8: small that benefit people day to day. And then beyond that, 1159 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:51,520 Speaker 8: you know climate and the world like the world is 1160 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 8: becoming ever smaller place, and a lot of what we 1161 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,760 Speaker 8: know about climate change came from studies from space and 1162 00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:02,880 Speaker 8: the impact on that that is far reaching. And so 1163 00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:05,080 Speaker 8: when you know, when people ask me about space, I'm 1164 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:08,040 Speaker 8: just like, it's it's not so much about the moon 1165 00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,760 Speaker 8: and all the dollars that are spent. The dollars that 1166 00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,040 Speaker 8: are spent are actually spent in the hopes of spending 1167 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 8: less dollars. Right, if you build something the first time, 1168 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,880 Speaker 8: it's typically more expensive, but if you repeat it, it 1169 00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:21,960 Speaker 8: becomes cheaper. That's why you get these large price tags. 1170 00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,720 Speaker 8: But the ability to be able to say people in 1171 00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,680 Speaker 8: fifty years aren't going to die from cancer, that's really 1172 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,320 Speaker 8: what we're after. When we look at space, it's a lot. 1173 00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 4: There's a lot going on there, especially when when you 1174 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,760 Speaker 4: think about technology. You talked about satellites. 1175 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 2: We you know, we've been following starlink and all that, 1176 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,280 Speaker 2: but also the the debris that's up there, is an issue. 1177 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,439 Speaker 8: That's a job, that's a startup. So this is somebody 1178 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 8: a billion dollar idea, right there? 1179 00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 2: They have a startup that well you want to elaborate 1180 00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,480 Speaker 2: on that because that that's something that that's that's a 1181 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 2: real issue. 1182 00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 8: No, that's definitely an issue. But this is why I 1183 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,400 Speaker 8: love it because it's on super sci fi, right, Like, 1184 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,760 Speaker 8: why don't you create a space trash company? Go right ahead? 1185 01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 8: But there's a lot of debris in space. And I mean, 1186 01:00:07,800 --> 01:00:10,680 Speaker 8: once again, space is a large place, but there's no 1187 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:17,160 Speaker 8: shortage of jobs, startups read opportunity for people to pursue 1188 01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:17,560 Speaker 8: in space. 1189 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 4: I was just gonna is there is there like a 1190 01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:21,880 Speaker 4: race to Mars? 1191 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:22,560 Speaker 5: Is that? 1192 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:25,120 Speaker 2: Is that what we're headed with this? Like I'm looking 1193 01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:30,600 Speaker 2: at well, like humans, we haven't been tomorrow? Rovers well 1194 01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,200 Speaker 2: humans I'm talking about is there a right right? Because 1195 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm looking at humans. Have humans been to Mars? They 1196 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 2: have not that you can say so from a standpoint 1197 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 2: of like we're watching the wealthiest people in the world. 1198 01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:46,720 Speaker 8: Mm hmm. 1199 01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:51,720 Speaker 2: Explores space expiration, whether it's Elon or Jeff Bezos, Like 1200 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 2: we said, is that the race? 1201 01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:54,560 Speaker 1: Is that? 1202 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,280 Speaker 4: What is headed? 1203 01:00:56,680 --> 01:00:57,040 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1204 01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:01,080 Speaker 8: I wouldn't necessarily say that that was where it was headed. 1205 01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:04,920 Speaker 8: I mean I think like when I look over I 1206 01:01:04,960 --> 01:01:09,800 Speaker 8: don't know the last thirty years, what's amazing is this 1207 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,240 Speaker 8: idea that you now have a private industry that can 1208 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,560 Speaker 8: contribute to something that used to only be the domain 1209 01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,040 Speaker 8: of governments. And I feel like that's the takeaway. And 1210 01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 8: when we throw out Besos and Branson and Elon, why 1211 01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,720 Speaker 8: can't we have the black version or the Hispanic version, right, 1212 01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 8: Like why not somebody else who is not like them? 1213 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,680 Speaker 8: Because a lot of their money came from entrepreneurship in 1214 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 8: startups and they decided to go and pursue space because 1215 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,880 Speaker 8: that was the passion. So for me, it's sort of 1216 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:47,680 Speaker 8: like we have this model, there are these guys, and 1217 01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:50,040 Speaker 8: I want it to be like Basos, Branson, bo. 1218 01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: So it's it's right in line. What do you say 1219 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:55,840 Speaker 1: to the flat eartherers? 1220 01:01:57,160 --> 01:02:03,520 Speaker 8: You like satellite TV? Right, That's that's my whole response, 1221 01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,200 Speaker 8: and like, don't come for me on Twitter, don't come 1222 01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:07,280 Speaker 8: for me in the dms. Like there are a lot 1223 01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:11,160 Speaker 8: of things that people rely on every day that requires 1224 01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 8: there to be a rotation of that thing. If you 1225 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,640 Speaker 8: think that your satellite just goes left to right and 1226 01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:19,000 Speaker 8: left to right again. I can't help you. 1227 01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:21,160 Speaker 4: That's a good answer. 1228 01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,840 Speaker 1: So are people in Australia that when you say, I'm like, 1229 01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:28,360 Speaker 1: are people in Australia standing standing upside down? 1230 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,040 Speaker 8: We're always standing right side up. 1231 01:02:33,040 --> 01:02:34,920 Speaker 1: We'll always gravity of rotation. 1232 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,080 Speaker 4: The axis of the Earth. 1233 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,280 Speaker 1: Yes, so the Southern hemisphere if we're standing right side 1234 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:44,480 Speaker 1: up the world, the northern hemisphere, the Southern hemisphere, so they're. 1235 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:45,320 Speaker 7: Right set up for where they are. 1236 01:02:46,080 --> 01:02:47,840 Speaker 4: The gravity allows it's a legitimate question. 1237 01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:52,640 Speaker 1: Look, I read a lot of these conspiracy theory situations, 1238 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:53,560 Speaker 1: so so you. 1239 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:56,760 Speaker 8: Know what's funny about conspiracy is like sometimes conspiracy is 1240 01:02:56,800 --> 01:02:58,920 Speaker 8: a name for like whistleblower, right, and like you're really 1241 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,480 Speaker 8: getting the drop, But then sometimes it's just weird news. 1242 01:03:03,760 --> 01:03:04,600 Speaker 1: What about aliens? 1243 01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:07,480 Speaker 8: That's an interesting question. 1244 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:09,480 Speaker 4: Are you allowed to answer that? 1245 01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:13,680 Speaker 8: Well, well, I'll just look at it from a probailistic standpoint, right, 1246 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,640 Speaker 8: because who's to say that we're not the aliens? 1247 01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: Well, we are aliens if there's all the life form 1248 01:03:19,920 --> 01:03:20,680 Speaker 1: the aliens to them. 1249 01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 8: So this is why I need people to get involved 1250 01:03:23,360 --> 01:03:27,000 Speaker 8: in the stem fields, like you too could be responding 1251 01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:31,000 Speaker 8: questions like this at work on the class, on your job. 1252 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:33,120 Speaker 1: So do you think that the aliens? You think that 1253 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:33,520 Speaker 1: they are? 1254 01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:33,720 Speaker 4: So? 1255 01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 8: I think that when I first logged into chat GPT, 1256 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:40,480 Speaker 8: my very first query was returned to me all of 1257 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 8: the most reputable sightings of UFOs in history do it. 1258 01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:47,040 Speaker 8: It's a great search. There's a lot of really good stuff. 1259 01:03:47,560 --> 01:03:50,120 Speaker 8: And the reason for that is I'm committed that I 1260 01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:54,080 Speaker 8: don't know what I don't know. And from a math perspective, 1261 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,320 Speaker 8: if you've ever seen the sun, the sunset in Africa, 1262 01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,600 Speaker 8: which I know you guys have, and see how many 1263 01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:03,760 Speaker 8: stars out there, it's hard to believe that there isn't 1264 01:04:03,800 --> 01:04:07,160 Speaker 8: something else. Now what is that else? Is that else 1265 01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 8: a dog on another planet? 1266 01:04:09,120 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 3: Is it a plant? 1267 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 5: I don't know. 1268 01:04:11,600 --> 01:04:15,080 Speaker 1: I don't know organism right, I. 1269 01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:18,840 Speaker 8: Mean, but I think that we should inspire people to 1270 01:04:19,680 --> 01:04:22,000 Speaker 8: figure it out. Like I belong in the camp of 1271 01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:22,880 Speaker 8: let's figure it out. 1272 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: So there's a high probability that this other life forms 1273 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:26,640 Speaker 1: outside of. 1274 01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,440 Speaker 8: There's a Drake equation, and the Drake equation says that 1275 01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,880 Speaker 8: that probability is one. Therefore it is most likely possible. 1276 01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:36,560 Speaker 1: Did Drake equations. The Drake equations like the rapper Drake. 1277 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 8: He can take credit for that, but it's it's not 1278 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 8: not that Rake, No, it's literally yeah, No, it's just 1279 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 8: his name, the sciences scientist. 1280 01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Yes Drake, Yes, Okay, Okay. 1281 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 4: That's a lot. Well, let's talk about your next move. Okay, intended? 1282 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 4: How did that come about? How's it going? Is it 1283 01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 4: still happening? You know you're host on Yeah, I think 1284 01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:08,080 Speaker 4: your next moves, So let's talk about that. 1285 01:05:08,440 --> 01:05:11,160 Speaker 8: I'm really I mean, I'm really excited about it because 1286 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,640 Speaker 8: I get to travel around. I get to talk to 1287 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:16,000 Speaker 8: entrepreneurs like I get to be asking the questions as 1288 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:18,400 Speaker 8: opposed to answering the questions, which is always a really 1289 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 8: good position to be. We shot the first episode in Atlanta. 1290 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:26,120 Speaker 8: I'm very excited about the guests. I don't know if 1291 01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,400 Speaker 8: you've met her. Her name is Brianna Arps. She has 1292 01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,240 Speaker 8: a perfume name Mudo, and she was one of the 1293 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 8: recipients of a grant from Pharrell's Black Ambition, which I 1294 01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:37,800 Speaker 8: thought was just an awesome way to open the season 1295 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:41,280 Speaker 8: for me, for them, for everybody, because she talks about 1296 01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 8: funding through grants and she lifts out grant sources. So 1297 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,680 Speaker 8: if you haven't seen her, if you haven't caught that. 1298 01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,960 Speaker 8: I really want people to catch the free knowledge and 1299 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:54,080 Speaker 8: the free money that comes out of that. We also 1300 01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:57,840 Speaker 8: will be traveling around, so I've committed to twelve episodes, 1301 01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,120 Speaker 8: some of which will happen out south By Southwest. I 1302 01:06:00,160 --> 01:06:03,720 Speaker 8: haven't been a Southwest really, I know, but it's really 1303 01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:04,920 Speaker 8: hard to make the case to be there as an 1304 01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:09,040 Speaker 8: engineering company, like an aerospace engineering company, small one. My 1305 01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:11,440 Speaker 8: team just thinks I'm out like having fun and I'm like, no, 1306 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:12,440 Speaker 8: I'm really working. 1307 01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:16,240 Speaker 4: Texas Homer Aerospace makes more sense. 1308 01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:18,280 Speaker 8: But they see me at south By West and they're 1309 01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 8: just like, she just haven't fun. But this year I 1310 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,440 Speaker 8: get to go and actually be hosting. But I'm really 1311 01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,760 Speaker 8: excited to be able to support inc in highlighting some 1312 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:30,280 Speaker 8: of these stories and you know, bringing maybe a different 1313 01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,200 Speaker 8: perspective to the conversation, not only as a minority female, 1314 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:35,760 Speaker 8: but as a founder. I just think we think about 1315 01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,760 Speaker 8: things differently because of lack of resources. 1316 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: So okay, let's talk about relationships. You had mentioned off 1317 01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:52,760 Speaker 1: camera your philosophy on relationships, and you have a similar 1318 01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:57,000 Speaker 1: conversation that a lot of guests have had as far 1319 01:06:57,040 --> 01:07:03,000 Speaker 1: as like successful black women where sometimes in today's society, 1320 01:07:03,240 --> 01:07:09,800 Speaker 1: it can be a detriment to our relationship or dating life. 1321 01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:15,800 Speaker 1: The more successful you are, right to who well, But 1322 01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 1: I think. 1323 01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:18,360 Speaker 8: That's what we need to dig it and explore, right, 1324 01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:20,480 Speaker 8: And I'm going to light up around this conversation because 1325 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:23,520 Speaker 8: there are no shortage of men in my dms. Now 1326 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 8: they may not be black men, but there are plenty 1327 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:29,000 Speaker 8: of men in my dms. And people think that I 1328 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 8: don't date successful men, like, no, we're both CEOs. 1329 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,600 Speaker 1: And but that's the narrative that you talk about what 1330 01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: you were talking about to us off camera. 1331 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 8: So I think one of the things that happens, I 1332 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,040 Speaker 8: think is the services I know, these brilliant, talented, successful 1333 01:07:45,080 --> 01:07:50,040 Speaker 8: women who maybe being told by society that for some 1334 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:53,320 Speaker 8: reason they're less attractive. Heck, I've gotten it. I've gotten 1335 01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:56,520 Speaker 8: to my own family barbecues. My great aunt has said, honey, 1336 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,360 Speaker 8: it don't matter if he's a felony, take them anyway. 1337 01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: And I'm like, that is not a felony. If he 1338 01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 1: has a legendary, if he's a felony, if he's a felony. 1339 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, she was alone. 1340 01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 8: She just wants she just wants a grand baby. 1341 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,600 Speaker 1: Whatever would say just settle. 1342 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,560 Speaker 4: Just take told you like, I have to be. 1343 01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:18,519 Speaker 8: Careful because I would. I am concerned that, you know, 1344 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:20,719 Speaker 8: some of the older folks might be trying to trade 1345 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,000 Speaker 8: me or sell me for something, right when when I 1346 01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,840 Speaker 8: know when they had those conversations and they're like, I 1347 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:27,360 Speaker 8: want to lean in and figure out what's going on. 1348 01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 8: But I think that what happens, right is the more 1349 01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 8: that you invest in yourself, the better the person who 1350 01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:41,760 Speaker 8: you attract is. And I find that if you're lucky 1351 01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:45,479 Speaker 8: enough to find somebody that you can grow with early on, 1352 01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,000 Speaker 8: definitely do that. 1353 01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:47,559 Speaker 4: Right. 1354 01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:50,840 Speaker 8: But for where I'm at in life, the people who 1355 01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 8: I deal with and the people that I date are 1356 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,760 Speaker 8: so much better then the person that I would have 1357 01:08:56,840 --> 01:09:01,639 Speaker 8: settled for in my twenty years or thirties. It's outrageous, 1358 01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,599 Speaker 8: just like the delta in quality. And so when people 1359 01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 8: are like, well, you know, being a CEO and things 1360 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,240 Speaker 8: like that makes you unattractive, is like, I don't understand 1361 01:09:10,320 --> 01:09:13,280 Speaker 8: because I'm going to dinner with somebody who has thirty 1362 01:09:13,360 --> 01:09:16,280 Speaker 8: five thousand employees, Like that's who I'm saying, seeing, that's 1363 01:09:16,280 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 8: who's calling me. 1364 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: So you don't have a problem. 1365 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:23,200 Speaker 8: I don't have a problem. When it comes to certain 1366 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:25,240 Speaker 8: areas of the population. 1367 01:09:26,080 --> 01:09:30,200 Speaker 1: So you as far as as far as white you have, 1368 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,719 Speaker 1: you have a thing I'm reading the table white white 1369 01:09:32,800 --> 01:09:37,160 Speaker 1: men are. That's the dating pool for you, you know, 1370 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:37,559 Speaker 1: I think. 1371 01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:39,960 Speaker 8: So here's what I'll notice is like I would not 1372 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,720 Speaker 8: necessarily say that it's white men. I think you can 1373 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:44,960 Speaker 8: broaden that. I think that there's just. 1374 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:46,599 Speaker 2: Right. 1375 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 8: I think there's a well and I think black men 1376 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,760 Speaker 8: of a certain age because if you've met a black 1377 01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:55,320 Speaker 8: man that has been married, has kids, and is divorced, 1378 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:58,720 Speaker 8: that is a whole different man than somebody who is 1379 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 8: just like on the starting line somewhere right, Like that 1380 01:10:01,680 --> 01:10:03,920 Speaker 8: experience comes with knowledge, and I can't tell you how 1381 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,880 Speaker 8: many guys sit with that said. I really wish that 1382 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:08,840 Speaker 8: I would have went with someone like you the first 1383 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 8: time around, because they recognize the value of being able 1384 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,360 Speaker 8: to have somebody who is going to treat your business 1385 01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:19,479 Speaker 8: like their own, who's going to be able to add, 1386 01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:22,479 Speaker 8: who's going to work hard, bring their connections, and then 1387 01:10:22,560 --> 01:10:25,280 Speaker 8: also be able to support you when maybe you can't 1388 01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:27,479 Speaker 8: support the family because you're building. 1389 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:30,560 Speaker 1: Do you feel, as I said, so we know that 1390 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:33,240 Speaker 1: the vice president, obviously everybody knows her husband is white. Right, 1391 01:10:35,600 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: do you feel a disconnecting some levels of having a 1392 01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:44,240 Speaker 1: high level of success and not necessarily finding a black 1393 01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:46,640 Speaker 1: counterpart or does that even matter to you? 1394 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,640 Speaker 8: I mean it's not. I mean, I'm sure he's out 1395 01:10:50,640 --> 01:10:53,479 Speaker 8: there and he's probably watching this show, right. I don't 1396 01:10:53,520 --> 01:10:56,679 Speaker 8: think that he doesn't exist. He absolutely exists. The question 1397 01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:01,000 Speaker 8: is have I met him yet? And my I mean, 1398 01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:05,200 Speaker 8: my line is open. I definitely date black men. I 1399 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,000 Speaker 8: also date men who are not black, and it's all 1400 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 8: about the best fit. Like, I'm meeting more and more 1401 01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,960 Speaker 8: and you guys could probably lean in on this because 1402 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:16,920 Speaker 8: I'm meeting more and more black men who are taking 1403 01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:19,400 Speaker 8: their time and they're building their empires and they're waiting 1404 01:11:19,479 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 8: until they're thirty five to thirty six. 1405 01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:23,240 Speaker 4: Is it necessary? Is the union necessary? 1406 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,840 Speaker 2: Well, in a sense where we're meeting a lot of people, 1407 01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:30,560 Speaker 2: not just just women, but men are saying, you know what, 1408 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want to get married. 1409 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,040 Speaker 4: I don't think it's necessary for me where I'm at. 1410 01:11:36,439 --> 01:11:39,759 Speaker 8: I mean I think that that's really like a personal decision. 1411 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:44,920 Speaker 8: I personally would like to be married. That being said, 1412 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:46,880 Speaker 8: I think that as a culture, we have to have 1413 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:51,000 Speaker 8: honest conversation about pre nups. Right, A prenap is always 1414 01:11:51,160 --> 01:11:53,439 Speaker 8: It's not always a bad thing. Like, how am I 1415 01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,920 Speaker 8: going to take my sixty something employees into my relationship 1416 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:01,679 Speaker 8: with you and not make sure that they're protected? Yeah, 1417 01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,519 Speaker 8: I just I just think that those are certain things. 1418 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,240 Speaker 8: But in the same way, like if you had certain 1419 01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,800 Speaker 8: things before I came into the picture, I respect that. 1420 01:12:10,520 --> 01:12:12,200 Speaker 8: You know, maybe you want to make sure that those 1421 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 8: things are managed in a certain way after we're together. 1422 01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:17,799 Speaker 8: So I think it has I think that that conversation 1423 01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:21,400 Speaker 8: has to be widened. I also think that a marriage 1424 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,559 Speaker 8: is not always necessary to be in a strong partnership, right, 1425 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 8: It's really about what you want and what you need. 1426 01:12:30,080 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 8: But I believe in monogamy. I'm a serial monogamist. I 1427 01:12:33,840 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 8: believe in that. That's just how I live. That's just 1428 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:38,280 Speaker 8: like how I like the role. And I also believe 1429 01:12:38,360 --> 01:12:42,880 Speaker 8: in loyalty. I am very loyal and those two things 1430 01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:46,600 Speaker 8: like loyalty and respect, As long as you have it, 1431 01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:49,719 Speaker 8: I feel like you can build and you can grow anything. 1432 01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: How was it, how was it working at NaSTA as 1433 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:54,920 Speaker 1: far as being a black woman, Did you ever feel 1434 01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:02,080 Speaker 1: any awkwardness or any you know, level of vibe that 1435 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:02,519 Speaker 1: was all. 1436 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:10,240 Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it was not exactly without its challenges, 1437 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,800 Speaker 8: I shall say, But also part of that was just 1438 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,920 Speaker 8: me like learning myself. Like the first three years I 1439 01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:19,240 Speaker 8: went in, I didn't really want to be seen as attractive, 1440 01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 8: and so I would get like shirts that a little 1441 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,400 Speaker 8: bit too big and pants because I didn't really want 1442 01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,640 Speaker 8: to have body or shape. I wanted to just know 1443 01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:30,080 Speaker 8: that whatever ideas and things I had or being received 1444 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:33,680 Speaker 8: because of who I was. But once I started to 1445 01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:36,839 Speaker 8: push all that to the side, I sort of realized 1446 01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:41,560 Speaker 8: that it is not my job to fix you. It 1447 01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,920 Speaker 8: is my responsibility to have the best possible experience and 1448 01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,879 Speaker 8: grow from it. And as a result, I joined clubs, 1449 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,800 Speaker 8: I built relationships with people who were not like me, 1450 01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,920 Speaker 8: and I had a lot of mentors who you know, 1451 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,960 Speaker 8: to this day are still people I lean on who 1452 01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,120 Speaker 8: are men who have backgrounds that are totally different than me. 1453 01:14:02,680 --> 01:14:05,120 Speaker 8: So some of it truly was me getting out of 1454 01:14:05,160 --> 01:14:09,040 Speaker 8: my own way and just refusing to allow myself to 1455 01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,719 Speaker 8: subscribe to what I felt was the status quo. 1456 01:14:11,680 --> 01:14:15,160 Speaker 1: At the time for sure. So before we leave, what 1457 01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:18,080 Speaker 1: will be your advice to somebody, as you know, young 1458 01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:21,439 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. You know that might have 1459 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,920 Speaker 1: similar situation as far as you what will be your 1460 01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: advice as far as your pathway in life. 1461 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,000 Speaker 8: If you're young, I would say, tell the right people 1462 01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:39,280 Speaker 8: your dreams. And the question may be who are the 1463 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 8: right people, But it's the individuals who when you tell 1464 01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,400 Speaker 8: them your dreams, they're going to be supportive and they're 1465 01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,000 Speaker 8: going to agree to hold you accountable for what it 1466 01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:50,960 Speaker 8: is that you want to achieve. Today as an adult, 1467 01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:53,360 Speaker 8: I still have a support network I get every single 1468 01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:56,200 Speaker 8: day and I work on my mindset. I have affirmations, 1469 01:14:56,280 --> 01:15:01,360 Speaker 8: I pray, I have goals. This success thing, it's a practice, 1470 01:15:01,479 --> 01:15:03,880 Speaker 8: it's a habit is something that you execute on a 1471 01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:08,640 Speaker 8: daily and when you feel like you are weak or 1472 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,519 Speaker 8: you have an automatic negative thought, you need to be 1473 01:15:11,600 --> 01:15:13,960 Speaker 8: able to call your friend and be like, hey, I 1474 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:15,560 Speaker 8: need you to tell me something good to get me 1475 01:15:15,640 --> 01:15:18,280 Speaker 8: through the day. I think that matters a lot when 1476 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:23,599 Speaker 8: you're younger right communities and for the adults out there 1477 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,120 Speaker 8: right like, we're all role models to somebody. If somebody 1478 01:15:26,160 --> 01:15:29,160 Speaker 8: tells you something that's crazy as long as it doesn't 1479 01:15:29,240 --> 01:15:31,200 Speaker 8: hurt themselves. But if they're like, hey, I want to 1480 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,280 Speaker 8: build the next spaceship to Mars. You tell them they better. 1481 01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:37,680 Speaker 4: Well, I am rooting for you. We are rooting for you. 1482 01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:40,240 Speaker 2: It's interesting when you talk about the youth, you know, 1483 01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 2: one of those things when people have future aspirations of 1484 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 2: what they want to be. It's like, I want to 1485 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,400 Speaker 2: be an ass in that it just seems like the 1486 01:15:47,479 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 2: most lofty goal ever that is not attainable. So to 1487 01:15:52,200 --> 01:15:55,200 Speaker 2: see that you are now the person that we can 1488 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,320 Speaker 2: look to, it means a lot. So we are looking 1489 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,200 Speaker 2: forward to to supporting you as number six and we 1490 01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:05,080 Speaker 2: are proud of you. I'll speak for the entire community. 1491 01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:05,840 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1492 01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,519 Speaker 1: Oh before we leave, So, what does a rocket scientist 1493 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,120 Speaker 1: actually do? What did that job description? Actually? Because I 1494 01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:13,840 Speaker 1: know what your job description, but like a rocket scientist 1495 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:17,479 Speaker 1: in totality, what is a rocket? What actually is a 1496 01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:18,280 Speaker 1: rocket scientist? 1497 01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:23,160 Speaker 8: Yeah, and so there's a wide variety, everything from engines 1498 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:28,479 Speaker 8: to the vehicle to working on satellites. I talked a 1499 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,880 Speaker 8: little bit about the early days, but I left out 1500 01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,200 Speaker 8: that we still to this day and Stumboard do a 1501 01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:41,519 Speaker 8: lot with rockets, rocket launches, advisory services making sure that 1502 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,880 Speaker 8: those things are safe. One of my favorite things which 1503 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 8: I cannot wait to talk about later on after it 1504 01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:53,040 Speaker 8: becomes public. Is the work that we do to make 1505 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,800 Speaker 8: rockets and satellite launches more accessible. 1506 01:16:58,880 --> 01:16:59,760 Speaker 4: You do drone work too. 1507 01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,200 Speaker 8: We don't really do any drone work right now, but 1508 01:17:02,360 --> 01:17:05,559 Speaker 8: that's definitely an area that I'm interested in getting into. 1509 01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,400 Speaker 1: Well, it's been a pleasure. Thank you. How can people 1510 01:17:09,439 --> 01:17:12,120 Speaker 1: follow you on social media or any anything else that 1511 01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,200 Speaker 1: you would want to leave as far as information for 1512 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:15,640 Speaker 1: your your program stuff like that. 1513 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:20,479 Speaker 8: Yeah, so if you're like an eligible black man, hit 1514 01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:23,320 Speaker 8: me up on the DMS. Listen you asked for that, 1515 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:24,680 Speaker 8: ask for that. 1516 01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:32,479 Speaker 1: Uh, that's a qualified rocket scientists only. 1517 01:17:32,600 --> 01:17:32,920 Speaker 4: Please. 1518 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,799 Speaker 8: We just need ambition. We don't need all that other stuff. 1519 01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:38,960 Speaker 4: And you got to listen to illmatic. There's a prerequisite. 1520 01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:41,040 Speaker 4: We're saying it now. That's a fact. 1521 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:44,040 Speaker 8: But you can find me on I g at Ayshabo 1522 01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 8: all one word. If you're interested in the stem kits 1523 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,640 Speaker 8: and you want to work with us and do some 1524 01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 8: really good stuff in the community, go directly to stem 1525 01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:58,240 Speaker 8: lingo dot com. 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