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Speaker 1: You see the trend there.

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Speaker 3: Taught myself everything electrical contractor for a career, and I

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Speaker 3: wanted to find out is there some place I can

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Speaker 3: go back and get a little more structured education to

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Speaker 3: you know, really understand about IP addresses and when I

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Speaker 3: set up my router instead of just kind of fumbling

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Speaker 3: my way through it. Is there something that's a little

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Speaker 3: more structured, a little more that you know, everybody wants

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Speaker 3: to teach me an entire education. I don't. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to do that. I just want to pick up

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Speaker 3: some some some pointers and some structure. If that makes sense.

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Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, absolutely, you know I just do Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 3: I can wire it all and tie it all down

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Speaker 3: and put it all together. And physical part is great,

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Speaker 3: but I really need to get a little a little

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Speaker 3: bit out of the ether and get a little more

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Speaker 3: focused on IP addresses and specifically what I'm doing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I hear you.

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Speaker 3: Any suggestions or ideas.

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Speaker 1: I do my my biggest one of my biggest wins.

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Speaker 1: I was so proud of myself. This was before mesh,

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Speaker 1: you know, routers and networking and all that stuff. But

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Speaker 1: I had my apartment. This was many years ago, and

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Speaker 1: I couldn't get a Wi Fi signal in the other

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Speaker 1: stretch of the like the other end of the apartment,

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Speaker 1: and so I was so proud of myself. I took

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Speaker 1: an old router, I formatted it, I installed like I

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Speaker 1: forget what the software was called, like DDRS or something

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Speaker 1: on it, and I put it and I and I

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Speaker 1: connected it with an Ethernet cable and I was able

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Speaker 1: to get the router to take the signal and put

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Speaker 1: it in that other area and kind of blast it

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Speaker 1: to the house. But I think the signal was the

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Speaker 1: same as the other one. But anyway, it was just

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Speaker 1: it all worked and it was so great. I was like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, I did this. Anyway, So I just

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Speaker 1: did a story about this for TV. We're gonna erit

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Speaker 1: very soon about basically learning technology, you know, outside of school.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, you can go back to school and you

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Speaker 1: can take a course and you do all this stuff.

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Speaker 1: But like, there are so many platforms online to learn

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Speaker 1: and a lot of it's free. You may have to

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Speaker 1: pay for some of it depending on what you want

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Speaker 1: to do. But I'll give you the one. I think

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Speaker 1: there's probably two, I think three actually that you really like.

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Speaker 1: So number one Courserah if you haven't heard of that,

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Speaker 1: COURSERA is is basically a place where you can learn

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Speaker 1: anything you want. And right now the AI stuff is

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Speaker 1: really really hot. But you know, they have some free lessons.

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Speaker 1: Some of it is paid, you know, but I think

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Speaker 1: it's like sixty bucks a month unlimited, like you can

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Speaker 1: take these at your own time. And they've got everything

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Speaker 1: from quick lessons to certificates. So if you want to

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Speaker 1: actually get a certificate that you can put on your

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Speaker 1: LinkedIn your resume, you can do that as well. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of those you can complete in under six months.

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Speaker 1: Then there's one called ed x ed X. Let me

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Speaker 1: see what the website is. I just have the name

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Speaker 1: ed x ed X.

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Speaker 2: Let's see dot org.

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Speaker 1: And these are all kinds of I mean, they've got

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Speaker 1: all kinds of skills and classes and you know, from

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Speaker 1: big names, and I'm sure you can type in what

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Speaker 1: you need so you can do you know, executive education courses, certificates,

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Speaker 1: master's degrees or a bachelor degree if you want. So

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Speaker 1: it's sort of like a one stop shop for just

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Speaker 1: finding all kinds of things. And if we type in

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Speaker 1: you said, IP IP addresses, I guess that would be

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Speaker 1: like under networking. You know, there's networking basics and security

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Speaker 1: Networking and storage essentials. I mean there's so many, and

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Speaker 1: they all say the brand that's offering them as well,

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Speaker 1: so that's another place to look. So let's say networking

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Speaker 1: basics and security, which I think you're past, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's see audit course. I don't know how much that

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Speaker 1: one costs, but anyway, you got that on there. And

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Speaker 1: then the other one is class Central, so class central

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Speaker 1: dot com. This is almost like a like a Google,

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Speaker 1: but for all online learning. So anything you want to find,

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Speaker 1: it will search all of the different places that offer

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Speaker 1: online courses, and so we're talking everything from Stanford, Google, Amazon,

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Speaker 1: I mean there's so many look at this, thirteen hundred universities,

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Speaker 1: one hundred provide and seventeen hundred institutions and it's all

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Speaker 1: under that search. So if you wanted it, you know,

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Speaker 1: to look up. Yeah, I mean TCIP which you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: or IP addressing. Two hundred and fifty six courses available,

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Speaker 1: and the neat thing is you can sort them by

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Speaker 1: the highest rated the relevancy. I mean, there's a whole

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Speaker 1: bunch of stuff and it gives you all the information

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Speaker 1: you need before you sign up. So University of Washington

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Speaker 1: Computer Networks it tells you how much it is right

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Speaker 1: on there, free online course. So I mean this is

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Speaker 1: this is pretty amazing and it just leads you right

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Speaker 1: to where you are. So if you're trying to further

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Speaker 1: your career, further your job, just pick up some new skills.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, YouTube is a great place to start,

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Speaker 1: but if you want to get a little bit more serious,

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Speaker 1: one of these online courses can really help. And I

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Speaker 1: think John, that's probably your best bet is to check

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Speaker 1: out those three places.

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Speaker 2: Microsoft also has their own hub for learning. It's called

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Speaker 2: Microsoft Learn.

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Speaker 1: Google has one, and then LinkedIn has one, IBM has

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Speaker 1: one they call their Skills Build, LinkedIn Learning is LinkedIn.

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Speaker 1: So I mean there's just there is no there is

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Speaker 1: no shortage of information available and I get it, like

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Speaker 1: you were saying, you know, everyone wants to teach you

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Speaker 1: this and that, but like these are very highly targeted

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Speaker 1: courses to what you want to learn. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: it's not just for it, it is for all kinds

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Speaker 1: of stuff in this world. So great question, John, Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much and appreciate the call today.

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Speaker 2: Eight eight eight.

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Speaker 1: Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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Speaker 1: two four one zero one. If you want to email.

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Speaker 1: You can also do that. Rich on tech dot TV.

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Speaker 1: I know I just gave you a lot of resources.

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Speaker 1: You're sitting there trying to write them all down. Do

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Speaker 1: not worry about that. Just go to the website. Rich

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Speaker 1: on tech dot tv. I've got the show notes there.

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Speaker 1: They're not there just yet for what I just said,

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Speaker 1: because it takes me a minute to get them on there.

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Speaker 1: But this is episode one thirty four, and so if

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Speaker 1: you visit in the next couple of minutes, they will

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Speaker 1: be on there.

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Speaker 2: And uh yeah, enjoy.

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Speaker 1: Before we go to break, the Better Business Bureau is

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Speaker 1: warning of fake passport renewal websites. Be careful because now

560
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Speaker 1: that you can renew your passport online, which I did,

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Speaker 1: and it was a very easy process.

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Speaker 2: Look at me.

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Speaker 1: In one month, I got my passport and my real ID.

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Speaker 1: I am ready to travel and I'm ready to be tracked.

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Speaker 1: So these websites, here's the deal. Anytime there's a legitimate

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Speaker 1: thing you could do online, there's some sort of bogus

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Speaker 1: website that's trying to prey upon you. Right, So what

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Speaker 1: do people do they search on Google renew passport online?

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Speaker 1: And what do you think The first five sponsored links

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Speaker 1: are these bogus websites that will charge you to fill

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Speaker 1: out a form. By the way, they're charging a processing

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Speaker 1: fee to fill out a form that's free. Now is

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Speaker 1: that illegal?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean they're just helping you, right,

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Speaker 2: But is it shady? Yes? So what do you need

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Speaker 2: to do? Number one?

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Speaker 1: If you are filling out and renewing your passport, you

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Speaker 1: can do it online.

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Speaker 2: It's not free.

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Speaker 1: You do have to pay, you know, the government a

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Speaker 1: little bit. I think it was one hundred and fifty bucks.

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Speaker 1: But you can go to the make sure you're going

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Speaker 1: to travel dot state dot gov. If you're putting your

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Speaker 1: information in a different website, don't do it. The victims

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Speaker 1: said they lost their money, but they also handed over

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Speaker 1: personal details like their Social Security number and their data

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Speaker 1: birth US Passport renewals, you know, you can be done

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Speaker 1: online if you qualify. You have to you know, you qualify.

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Speaker 1: You got to fill out a little thing and see

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Speaker 1: if you qualify. Mostly I think it's for renewals, but

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Speaker 1: just make sure that you are you're going to that

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Speaker 1: travel dot state dot gov site avoids sponsored links. Anything

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Speaker 1: that's at the top of your Google that's sponsored with

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Speaker 1: the passport renewal is probably someone that's going to charge

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Speaker 1: you more.

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Speaker 2: So just be careful.

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Speaker 1: And this is the thing, like I often my mom

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Speaker 1: is in town, and so she shown me the stuff

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Speaker 1: on her Facebook and her Google searches, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of the stuff that comes up as a sponsored link

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Speaker 1: is kind of bogus. And so I personally use like

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Speaker 1: an ad blocker, and I also use Nord has an

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00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: awesome feature that I love. If you subscribe to their VPN,

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Speaker 1: they've got this threat blocker and not only does it

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Speaker 1: block like threats, but it also happens to block ads,

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Speaker 1: which you know, I get it. People need to make

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Speaker 1: money on the Internet, So I understand why the ads

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Speaker 1: are there. But if I'm getting scammed because of these

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Speaker 1: ads that are targeting me, that's a problem. And so

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Speaker 1: that's why I don't feel bad blocking them. And it's

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Speaker 1: my internet, it's my screen, it's my web browser.

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Speaker 2: I could do what I want.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven

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Speaker 1: four to two four to one zero one. We'll get

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Speaker 1: back to your calls and I'll tell you why Yahoo

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Speaker 1: is uh cutting its free storage when we come back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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Speaker 1: out with you talking technology at Triple eight Rich one

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Speaker 1: oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Uh, let's go to I can't see

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Speaker 1: the name on the screen. Is it Chris in Orange County?

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Speaker 1: There you go, Chris in Orange County?

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Speaker 2: Are on with Rich?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Hey, Rich, thank you very much, appreciate your time. Hey,

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Speaker 6: I do a lot of podcasting actually broadcasting of live sports,

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Speaker 6: and I do everything via Logitech's product and maybe familiar

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Speaker 6: with Mivo cameras. They're a great little tool to use

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Speaker 6: for what I'm doing in my broadcasting. I've got a

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Speaker 6: question about Wi Fi connectivity because my workflow is cameras

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Speaker 6: into an iPad. I've got a hot spot that's designated

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Speaker 6: to create my signal to connect things with. But I

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Speaker 6: run into problems with latency and bitrate and all that

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Speaker 6: with the cameras having to be adjusted just because I'm

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Speaker 6: having problems with connectivity, and I'm just looking for a

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Speaker 6: better means and support tool that might be able to

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Speaker 6: eliminate the dropouts, eliminate the bitrate and the latency issues

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Speaker 6: that I encounter, and something that has pretty good range.

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Speaker 2: Any thoughts on.

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Speaker 1: That, well, I think it all comes down to what

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Speaker 1: are you using to broadcast out like a hotspot or

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Speaker 1: using your phone or using a dedicated.

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Speaker 4: Are using a hotspot? So I use a Nighthawk, which

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Speaker 4: is a very powerful tool, and you know, I align

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Speaker 4: with you know, various networks that are available out there

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Speaker 4: with different companies, and the tool works well. But you know, obviously,

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Speaker 4: if I'm in a place where there's a bunch of

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Speaker 4: iPhones that are being used, I'm pinging the same tower

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Speaker 4: everybody else is. Yeah, I all cut in line because

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Speaker 4: I've got an isolated signal. My concern is is, you know,

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Speaker 4: we've heard things around cellular bonding and different things, et cetera,

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Speaker 4: et cetera, but it's very expensive often yep, and just

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Speaker 4: kind of wondering what your thought process is into how

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Speaker 4: to improve it because I can run multiple cameras and

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Speaker 4: I'd love to have center field first base, you know,

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Speaker 4: I've got behind home plate, but I can't do that

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Speaker 4: because of the fact that my Wi Fi connectivity often

658
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Speaker 4: is slow and sluggish.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, it comes down to you know,

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Speaker 1: consumer versus pro tools, And like you said, you know,

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Speaker 1: when we're broadcasting, we use cellular bonding, which of course

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Speaker 1: is taking various signals and merging them together and it's

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Speaker 1: making one signal.

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Speaker 2: So if one if one.

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Speaker 1: Of the carriers drops out a little bit, you know,

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Speaker 1: the other carrier picks up the slack. But that, like

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Speaker 1: you said, is very expensive. So if you're talking just

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Speaker 1: kind of over the counter stuff, I mean, obviously, a

670
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Speaker 1: wired connection is going to be the absolute best way

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Speaker 1: to do things. Even if you were doing a wired

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Speaker 1: connection from your you know, your iPad, it sounds like

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Speaker 1: you're broadcasting from the iPad to the hot spot. The

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Speaker 1: mevo camera, I'm guessing is connecting to the iPad and

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Speaker 1: the iPad to the hot spot. So if you can

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Speaker 1: get that connection wired, that would that would help immensely.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: I think it also has to do with the signal

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Speaker 1: that you're using. So you said you're using a hot spot,

680
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Speaker 1: but you know, you're at the mercy of wherever you

681
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Speaker 1: happen to set up that hot spot and whatever this

682
00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: the that signal is in that area, and there's two

683
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Speaker 1: things that are going on. Number One, the signal may

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Speaker 1: not be that good in that area, and that's what's

685
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Speaker 1: causing the dropout and the problem. Number Two, you may

686
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Speaker 1: be using such a large amount of data on this

687
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: system every month that your carrier is deprioritizing your signal

688
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: because there's too many other people in the area that

689
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: need to get their calls and data through. It's saying, look,

690
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: this guy we know is gobbling up a ton of data,

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Speaker 1: so we're going to just kind of put him on

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Speaker 1: the back burner for a little bit. And that can happen.

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Speaker 1: I mean, these networks, these companies have the ability to

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Speaker 1: do what's called network congestion management, so they will sit

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Speaker 1: there and prioritize different types of data based on the

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Speaker 1: user and based on the level of account. So a

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Speaker 1: lot of people talk about, you know, when you have

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Speaker 1: like a nice premium data plan from one of the

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Speaker 1: big carriers like an AT and T, T Mobile, Verizon,

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Speaker 1: when you're paying that one hundred dollars a month, you're

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Speaker 1: going to be on the top tier of data priority

702
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: unless you go over your limits. And if you go over,

703
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 1: you know, they say, oh, you get unlimited hotspot. Well

704
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Speaker 1: nothing's really unlimited anymore, so they may really limit you

705
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Speaker 1: after using fifty gigabytes or on a hundred gigabyte. I

706
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Speaker 1: think AT and T is the only one that has

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Speaker 1: a plan where they will not limit you in any way.

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Speaker 1: I think it's like one hundred I don't know how

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Speaker 1: much it is a month, but it's it's a pricey plan.

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Speaker 1: But they will not deprioritize your data. So I think

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Speaker 1: those are some of the things you have to look at.

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Speaker 1: I think if you really want to get serious, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you had something like a starlink where you know

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Speaker 1: it was going to be a dedicated and pretty much

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00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: the same signal everywhere you go, that's probably a better

716
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: way to do it. So, you know, I think for

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Speaker 1: the most part, this probably works for a ninety nine

718
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Speaker 1: percent of the time, but there are just some times

719
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Speaker 1: where it's just not going to be you know, it's

720
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Speaker 1: just not going to be as good. And we've seen this,

721
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: like I, you know, I broadcast from all kinds of

722
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: places all the time, you know, going live on TV.

723
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 1: Now for the radio, you know, obviously you don't really

724
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: need as much bandwidth for the radio when I do

725
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: a remote show versus TV TV. I mean even TV

726
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,600
Speaker 1: don't even need that much, but you still need it.

727
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,720
Speaker 1: But the other thing about the going live from places

728
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: is that but you know, if you get higher end equipment,

729
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: if you get equipment that is, you know, a hot

730
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: spot that is meant for more consumers versus professionals.

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Speaker 2: It's just not going to be as good. It may

732
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 2: not pull in as strong of a signal.

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Speaker 1: The one I use for the radio show remote is

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00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 1: this like high end hot spot that's like you know,

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00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: I guess it uses cellular bonding. I think we're just

736
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: using one network, but it has the potential to use

737
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 1: more than one network.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, it's a great question, Chris. It's definitely.

739
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Speaker 1: As people are broadcasting more of these Little League games

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00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 1: and various sports around the nation, you know, they're broadcasting

741
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: them wherever they are. I've got a friend at work

742
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: that's actually doing this and he uses a starlink and

743
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 1: he's just said it's game changing. It's truly unbelievable that

744
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 1: he can broadcast a game no matter where he is,

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00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 1: in the middle of nowhere with Little League or whatever

746
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: he's doing, and with all the off the shelf kind

747
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 1: of products and software, it's just pretty incredible what you

748
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: can do. Thanks for the call today, Chris, appreciate it.

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00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: If you have Yahoo email, by the way, or actually,

750
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna do that when we come back,

751
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 1: because we don't have enough time for that, but I'm

752
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 1: gonna I'm gonna answer this question from Lisa. Lisa writes

753
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 1: in I received two class action lawsuit notices recently, including

754
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,360
Speaker 1: one tied to the AT and D data breach. I

755
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 1: must have gotten one hundred of these emails this week.

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00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,400
Speaker 1: How can I verify these are legitimate? Go to the

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Speaker 1: website Topclassactions dot com. That's where I go to type

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00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: in AT and T and you'll see the website that's

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00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: the legitimate one. Just make sure that's the one you're

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00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:25,840
Speaker 1: getting the email from. And that's when you're going to

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Speaker 1: eighty eight rich one on one eighty eight seven four

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Speaker 1: rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four

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Speaker 1: lot of you go into the website to look for

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Speaker 1: information on those learning websites I mentioned, they're all linked

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Speaker 1: up there. John and Los Angeles asked where he can

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Speaker 1: With Brett, he's got a great YouTube channel. He's going

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Speaker 1: to share all kinds of tips and tricks about smart

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00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: home tech. And I'm gonna ask him about the fact

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00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: that a lot of people are unhappy right now with

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00:36:47,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 1: the way Google has been operating their Google homes. Like

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00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: when you ask it a question, it basically just defaults

791
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:54,439
Speaker 1: to the web.

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00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 2: Now.

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00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: It used to give you an answer. Now it's just like, oh,

794
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: here's what I found on the web. So I think

795
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: they're making that transition a gemini. So in the meantime,

796
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: it's not as good. This week I did test out

797
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: a new printer, the EPSOM Eco tank Et twenty nine eighty.

798
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 1: Get a lot of questions about these. You know, I've

799
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: got the HP this is This is a different one

800
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: because you basically squeeze it. You don't really squeeze the

801
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: ink into it. You just let the ink drop into it.

802
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: It's like these little almost look like injectors that you

803
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 1: put into the device and it puts the ink in

804
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: there instead of replacing a cartridge. And so you've got

805
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: these bottles that you put in you fill it up.

806
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 1: That was the trickiest part. I was just worried that

807
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: the ink was gonna get everywhere. It didn't. Thankfully, the

808
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: bottles they the ink apparently last for a very long time.

809
00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: You can refill it easily. And I found the setup

810
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 1: of the printer was actually quite simple because they did

811
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: this interesting thing where they just kind of lead you

812
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,000
Speaker 1: through the process with an app. So on your phone,

813
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: you've got the app and it almost chats with you

814
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: back and forth. So it's like chat style where it

815
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: says okay, now, first things first, do this you go okay?

816
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: I did that? Goes okay? Now do this, and you

817
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: do that, and then it sends you a picture. It says,

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00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: all right, now see this part, open up that flap

819
00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: or whatever. So that was really cool. So I got

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00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: this thing set up. It was very easy to get

821
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Speaker 1: set up and all, like I said, all from my phone.

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Speaker 1: The thing that really threw me off was loading the

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Speaker 1: paper because I'm so used to that trayloader. This has

824
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: a rear top loading design, so you put the paper

825
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: kind of in the back of it and then it

826
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Speaker 1: kind of comes through it. So that threw me for

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Speaker 1: a loop. But I will tell you the advantage of

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00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: that is for swapping paper, so when you want to

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Speaker 1: put in different paper sizes, you no longer have to

830
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: do it. You know, pull out the tray, put in

831
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:46,840
Speaker 1: the other paper. And it's especially handy for printing photos

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00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: because if you have a five x seven or four

833
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:51,280
Speaker 1: x six photo paper you want to put in there,

834
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Speaker 1: you can easily just pop out the eight and a

835
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Speaker 1: half by eleven paper and put in the photo paper.

836
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Speaker 1: So I love that feature and I've been printing all

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Speaker 1: kinds of pictures because of it.

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Speaker 2: It's quiet, it works well.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit slower than the HP I think

840
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: but overall, I think the software is better designed and simpler.

841
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: Like HP is always pushing you to kind of purchase

842
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 1: their protection plans and their ink plans and all this

843
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 1: other stuff, but the EPSOM just sort of does what

844
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: it needs to do, which is be a printer. The

845
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: other downside is that there's a tiny display on the

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Speaker 1: front which is really small, and you have to like

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00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: navigate it using all these buttons on the front of

848
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Speaker 1: the device, which it would have been way easier if

849
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Speaker 1: that was just a touch screen. Maybe they have a

850
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:35,880
Speaker 1: version that's more expensive that has a touchscreen. But the

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00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: price here three hundred and twenty nine dollars, which I

852
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: would say watch for a sale. That seems like the

853
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 1: regular price, Like you could probably get it on sale

854
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,439
Speaker 1: at some point. Maybe this is brand new, I'm not sure.

855
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 1: The refills for the ink are about seventy five dollars

856
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,359
Speaker 1: for all of the ink, and I think the ink

857
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: is supposed to last for a couple of years, so

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00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if that's the case. Overall, very

859
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 1: very impressed, I really kind I was using the scanner

860
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 1: on the printer yesterday. It was great, very simple, and

861
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: really it's very hands off with the software. Like you

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00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 1: saw the app on your phone, but you can print

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00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: from Android and iPhone without installing really much more. You

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00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: don't have to go through the app if you don't want,

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Speaker 1: you just kind of natively print to it.

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Speaker 2: So I thought that was cool. Next up, I'm.

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Speaker 1: Gonna test the HP version of this, I guess because

868
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Speaker 1: epsyn is coming out with these ink tank printers. HP decided, hey,

869
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: we need an ink tank printer now, and so it's

870
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,719
Speaker 1: the five to one oh one and I've got that

871
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: to test as well, so I'm gonna see if that's

872
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: a better system too. So anyway, ink tank printer is

873
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: kind of different than what you're typically used to with

874
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: the with the cartridges, but I like it. Also, Oh,

875
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: this is this is really wild. Ring now if you

876
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: if you say yes, and I think you probably have

877
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: to be on some sort of paid plan if I'm guessing,

878
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 1: but they are now sending AI notifications, so not only

879
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 1: you know the ring if you have a ring doorbell,

880
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:00,080
Speaker 1: it just says like someone's at your front door. No,

881
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: now it looks at the video using AI and it

882
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: will describe what's happening in the video. So someone literally

883
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 1: just came to our house delivering food that was not

884
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: meant for us, and it says person is moving on

885
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:17,560
Speaker 1: the porch with bags. Person is standing on the porch

886
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 1: holding a plastic bag. And then this morning when I

887
00:41:20,080 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: came back from my run, it said, you know, person

888
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,320
Speaker 1: is it does like child adult moving towards your front

889
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: door with earphones. I mean it's really specific and actually

890
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 1: quite useful because you can see in an instant if

891
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: something's important or if it's not. So if you don't

892
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: have the AI toggled on, you know, if you have

893
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: a Ring device and you're paying for I think you

894
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: have to have a subscription or some sort of extra

895
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: add on whatever, it's worth trying it out. The difference is,

896
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what the big difference is is

897
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 1: that because it's AI, they have to send your video

898
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: to RING servers for processing. So yeah, your video is

899
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: probably passing through Ring at some point because it's got

900
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: to deliver it to your phone. But because it's looking

901
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: at that video to analyze what's happening in the video,

902
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: there was some sort of like little warning that said

903
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 1: you have to be okay with this?

904
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: Do you agree? And I said, yeah, sure.

905
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean if your Ring cameras are in public places,

906
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: which is, by the way, they should be at your house,

907
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: you know, front yard, backyard, door. It shouldn't be that

908
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: big of a deal because it's nothing that nobody else

909
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: can see.

910
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess they're inside. That's different. Let's go

911
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: to Mark and woodn Hills. Mark, you're on with rich A.

912
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 5: Hi.

913
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 7: Rich. I just want to make you know I've been

914
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 7: a cable cutter since nineteen ninety eight because most of

915
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 7: the stuff was just rubbish and you know, junk food

916
00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 7: for the mind, right, But it was the ro Coup

917
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 7: that really turned me on back to entertainment and programming.

918
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 7: I picked up a Roku four. I have a stick

919
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 7: that I take when I go and travel. The Ultra

920
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,879
Speaker 7: is awesome, but my problem is with the Roku number four.

921
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,160
Speaker 7: It seems to be a rather common reputation and problem

922
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 7: for folks. What it's it's known for whining and grinding sound.

923
00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,440
Speaker 7: I mean, it will still pour out. I use it

924
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 7: on a TV that I don't use often, but when

925
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 7: I turn it on after a couple of minutes, it

926
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 7: starts grinding and all weird sound. And I've looked online

927
00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 7: and the only solution I've seen thus far. Was somebody suggested,

928
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 7: turn it upside down and see if the noise goes away.

929
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 2: What was the solution? I'm sorry I missed that. What

930
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: was the solution?

931
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,640
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen it once or twice. People said, yeah,

932
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 7: I turn it upside down.

933
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 2: In other words, well that can help.

934
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,879
Speaker 1: I mean this so it's making some sounds. I mean this,

935
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: this player specifically is going on what ten years old?

936
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: So and I think, what's happening here? It's got to

937
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,920
Speaker 1: be the fan because there's no moving parts inside this

938
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: thing except a fan, I'm guessing, so that's got to

939
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: be what's happening. So have you tried? I mean, there's

940
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:56,680
Speaker 1: if you're trying to, you know, save this thing, which

941
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: you know after ten years. I mean, look, Rocus are great,

942
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: by the way, I love them. The Ultra, like you said,

943
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: is fantastic. They've got a great range of apps. Pretty

944
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: much every app is if it's available, is there. I

945
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, I love Roku because they pretty much And

946
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 1: the guy who started it for it, what his name

947
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: is off the top of my head, James might have

948
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: been his name, but he basically I was at an

949
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: event and he said, like I built this because this

950
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: is what I wanted to be able to watch TV, right,

951
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: And so I think that out of all the companies

952
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,759
Speaker 1: out there that make these streaming sticks, they really have

953
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: like the viewer in mind. And that's what I think

954
00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: is the greatest thing and why people love Roku because

955
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,160
Speaker 1: if you think about it, you know, when I put

956
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: on my Google TV, they're trying to sell me all

957
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,880
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff. There's ads everywhere. You know, there's like

958
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: here's what's you know, They're trying to get me to

959
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: download apps and this and that. Yeah, same thing with

960
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,880
Speaker 1: Fire TV. I mean Fire TV is just like a

961
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: vessel for like all things Amazon and whatever ads they

962
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: can do. Apple TV is great, but it's Apple. So

963
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here's our way or the highway, right,

964
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: like we don't we don't they care about you, but

965
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: only to a certain extent. They really care about, you know,

966
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 1: the way they want to do things. But Roku is

967
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 1: like this independent. It's like Switzerland. It's like, hey, we

968
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 1: want to remain independent of everything. We're just gonna give

969
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: you what you want. But I would say, Mark, if

970
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 1: you're trying to solve the issues here, maybe a little

971
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: canned air if there's a place to like spray that

972
00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 1: in there.

973
00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: I mean, you could try opening it. I wouldn't really

974
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 2: recommend that because who knows what's going to happen there,

975
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: could you know, be electrical shock whatever. But yeah, the

976
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 2: fan is probably what's causing this. After ten years, it's probably.

977
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Did you Yeah, you live in La so I mean

978
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: look the air, it's probably just got a lot of

979
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,040
Speaker 1: gunk in there, right, I mean that's probably what's happening.

980
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: So that's what I recommend. Or I mean, look, Roku's

981
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: are not that expensive.

982
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 2: I get it.

983
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,920
Speaker 1: This thing has been going for ten years. It's great,

984
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,960
Speaker 1: but you know, you can get a new one if

985
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: this one is just really annoying. And to me, if

986
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,200
Speaker 1: I'm trying to watch TV and I'm hearing a whining,

987
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: worrying sound, that's going to be really obnoxious. I barely

988
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: like to watch TV with the you know, the washing

989
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,240
Speaker 1: machine on or something like that in the background, dishwasher.

990
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: But yeah, so did you solve this problem or no?

991
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 7: Uh no, sir? Yeah, And you're right, it's a wonderful.

992
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 7: It just it was a game changer. I do watch

993
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 7: a lot of Pluto, which I can put on my phone,

994
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 7: even you know, pick up. But the Roku and Pluto

995
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 7: allow you to, uh, if you're in the news like

996
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,880
Speaker 7: I am a lot, you know, politician, like international perspectives

997
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 7: on what we don't hear here is very important. So

998
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 7: this Roku for I don't use as much, mainly because

999
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,080
Speaker 7: of that. But the Ultra is just fantastic. I have

1000
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 7: in my office and in the background I'm listening to

1001
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 7: this or that. Yeah, I'm gonna have to tear it

1002
00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 7: apart and maybe louve it in some respect. I didn't

1003
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,880
Speaker 7: want to break it open, but I guess I'm gonna

1004
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 7: have to.

1005
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, keep me posted. I'm curious.

1006
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's probably not got that much inside, right,

1007
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: It's got a couple of things going on in there.

1008
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: It's if there's screws on the bottom, you can open

1009
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: it up easily, you know, obviously make sure it's not

1010
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 1: plugged in or anything like that. He thinks, Yeah, I

1011
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: mean there's you know, just see what you got and

1012
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: you know, and if it doesn't work out, you know,

1013
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: probably get a new one. I mean, they're they're like

1014
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: I said, you're the man.

1015
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:08,879
Speaker 2: Thank you, Mark, appreciate the call.

1016
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 5: Today.

1017
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,399
Speaker 1: Eight to eight rich One O one eight eight eight

1018
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. I'll tell

1019
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: you why Yahoo is cutting its free storage. Coming up next,

1020
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

1021
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:25,799
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology at Richontech Dot TV. UH

1022
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:28,280
Speaker 1: eighty eight rich one O one eight eight eight seven

1023
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: four to two four one zero one. You know, not

1024
00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:34,000
Speaker 1: every song Mom picks is gonna work out. No that

1025
00:47:34,040 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what that was, but that that was, uh,

1026
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: that was strange.

1027
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: Uh.

1028
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: Yahoo Male is cutting their free storage apparently from one

1029
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: terrorbyte to twenty gigabytes, So you know, I got a

1030
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: couple of emails about this from folks. Seems like a

1031
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: big deal. I mean, if you're going from a terrorbyte

1032
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:58,000
Speaker 1: to twenty gigabytes, that is a ninety eight percent reduction.

1033
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: But Yahoo, in a support page, says that users over

1034
00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: the limit are going to get email notices and a

1035
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,400
Speaker 1: grace period before their service is impacted.

1036
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 2: Yahoo calls the.

1037
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: Change reasonable and they, you know, they say that the

1038
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: I guess the reasonable limit, you'll you'll be fine for

1039
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 1: a while. I guess once you're over the limit, though,

1040
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 1: you cannot send or receive emails until you free up

1041
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: your space or better yet, which is what they probably

1042
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: want you to do is upgrade. So now they have

1043
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: paid plans one hundred gigs for two dollars a month,

1044
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 1: one terabyte for nine So you're telling me you used

1045
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 1: to get the terabyte for free and now it's ten

1046
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: dollars a month. See this is weird because okay, Yahoo

1047
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: mail Plus, Oh that's that's interesting. Yahoo Mail Plus is

1048
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,719
Speaker 1: two hundred gigabytes with no ads for five dollars a month.

1049
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: So here's the deal. We have become accustomed to not

1050
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: paying for email. Most people out there just don't pay

1051
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,959
Speaker 1: for their email unless you have a business or something

1052
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: like that special address that you want.

1053
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: But most people just get like a.

1054
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: Gmail, a wel, Yahoo, Outlook, dot com, and they just

1055
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: don't pay for email. And so the fact that Yahoo

1056
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 1: is now trying to get people to do that, you

1057
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:13,040
Speaker 1: know it's worth a try. But the thing is like, okay,

1058
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: so if you're on something like a Gmail, right you

1059
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 1: get fifteen gigs of storage for free, that's fine. But

1060
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,719
Speaker 1: the thing that Google has. The advantage they have is

1061
00:49:21,719 --> 00:49:23,879
Speaker 1: that they have a whole bunch of other products you're

1062
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: using that you might use storage on, so it's linked

1063
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: to your Google Photos. It's linked to your drive, it's

1064
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: linked to your docs, and so it might seem more

1065
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: reasonable to pay five dollars a month, two dollars a month,

1066
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 1: ten dollars a month, or you know, whatever you pay

1067
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: for Google because you're getting a whole bunch of stuff.

1068
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: So for this, two dollars a month for one hundred

1069
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:47,839
Speaker 1: gigs not bad? But does that? Does Yahoo? I don't

1070
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: even know what Yahoo services? What do they have it

1071
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,160
Speaker 1: these days? I mean, it's just what do they have

1072
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: at this point? I don't think they have like a

1073
00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:01,800
Speaker 1: Yahoo drive. They have Yahoo Mail, Yeah, who's secure? Yahoo Support,

1074
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Yahoo Fantasy yeah. I mean it's not like they have

1075
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: a I don't think they have like a Yahoo drive

1076
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: or even Yahoo Photos. Does Yahoo have a Photos? I

1077
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 1: don't think they do. I mean it used to be

1078
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 1: Flicker as part of that, but they're gone. They're part

1079
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: of their own thing now there's I think they're smug

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Speaker 1: mug bought them. Uh anyway, So yeah, if you're affected

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Speaker 1: by this, I would go to the help page on

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00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: I'll put the link to the help page. But they're

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00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 1: going to give you tools to manage your space, to

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Speaker 1: get rid of you know, big files. And things like that.

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00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: The other thing is you can try that's easy. It's

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00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: just empty your trash after deleting your emails, because otherwise

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00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 1: it's still taking up storage and they probably so once

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00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 1: you put the emails in the trash, they probably stay

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Speaker 1: there for a certain amount of time before they fully delete.

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Speaker 1: So if you don't delete them, if you want to

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00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: reclaim your storage instantly, you could just empty the trash instantly.

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Speaker 1: But I think you know it's just you'll know if

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Speaker 1: you're affected by that. Speaking of email, Richard and Calabasas says,

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Speaker 1: I have way too many old emails in Gmail, almost

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00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: two hundred thousand, and I want to delete them from

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Speaker 1: particular senders in bulk. The problem is Gmail only seems

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Speaker 1: to let me do fifty at a time. Here's the

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00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: trick to that, Richard. You have to go to your desktop.

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Speaker 1: Go to your desktop. And what I do is, I've

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Speaker 1: told you this, I am ruthless when it comes to

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Speaker 1: cleaning out my email. I do have a ton of

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Speaker 1: emails in Gmail. But what I do is, when someone

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Speaker 1: sends me an email I want to get rid of

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Speaker 1: all the emails. I just take their email address and

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00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: copy and paste it and so copy that in, put

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Speaker 1: it in the search bar, and now all of the

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Speaker 1: emails from that person comes up. And what you want

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Speaker 1: to do is tap the select icon, the box right

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00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: underneath the froom up at the top almost and that

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00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 1: will select all their emails. And if there's more emails

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00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: that are not on that first page, it'll pop up

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Speaker 1: with a little thing that says, hey, do you want

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00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: to select all emails in the conversation, like all one thousand?

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00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: Tap yes, and it will select every email from that

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Speaker 1: person and then you can delete them. Now, keep in

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00:52:07,320 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 1: mind your screen takes a second or two to refresh,

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00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: so if it looks like nothing's happening, it's it's deleting

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00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: the oldest emails first, and it's making its way to

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Speaker 1: that first email in the top. Eighty eight rich one

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Speaker 1: on one eighty eight seven four to two four one

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Speaker 1: zero one. Coming up, we're talking tech with Brett right

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Speaker 1: here on rich On Tech. Welcome, Welcome back to rich

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Speaker 1: On Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking

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Speaker 1: technology at triple A rich one oh one eight eight

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Speaker 1: eight seven four to two four one zero one. What

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Speaker 1: you can't see at home is what I see, and

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00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: what I see is Bobo our boardop And when I

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00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 1: do something silly or most of the time when I

1129
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 1: mess up, he just falls on the floor laughing.

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Speaker 2: And that's what he's doing right now.

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Speaker 1: So you don't see that I do, and uh, it's

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Speaker 1: just it entertains me every time. Uh, but I see

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Speaker 1: the calls. I know We've got you going to get

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Speaker 1: to the calls in just a few minutes. Right now,

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Speaker 1: we've got Brett Bristow on, creator of Tech with Brett.

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00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: He runs a popular YouTube channel that's all about smart

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Speaker 1: home and technology.

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Speaker 2: And Brett, welcome to the show.

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00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 8: Thanks for having me on, Rich.

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Speaker 1: So tell me what was the you know, why did

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00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: you create this YouTube channel? Like what was your kind

1142
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,399
Speaker 1: of first idea for it? And it's taken off?

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00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, when I was growing up, I was surrounded

1145
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:28,759
Speaker 8: by technology, and then as more technology came out, I

1146
00:53:28,840 --> 00:53:32,360
Speaker 8: found that there was missing pieces of people on YouTube

1147
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 8: talking about certain parts, especially how they're going to be

1148
00:53:35,800 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 8: used by a consumer like me. So I began starting

1149
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 8: with the smartphone I had, and talked about how to

1150
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 8: use all the things that you can do, because definitely

1151
00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:46,719
Speaker 8: we're not using all the features that these products have.

1152
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 8: So I began to demo different tutorials on what these

1153
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 8: can do and made YouTube videos about how they can

1154
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 8: benefit your life. Because you've already bought it, why not

1155
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:56,680
Speaker 8: make the most out of it.

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Speaker 2: What was that first phone?

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Speaker 8: The first phone I think was a Galaxy S five

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00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 8: and I remember making a video of me dunking it

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00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 8: in water and then my daughter drank the water. Then

1160
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,680
Speaker 8: you just dunk the phone real nice brat. Yeah, hey,

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Speaker 8: it was a fun video. We had a great time.

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Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that was so it's so wild because

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00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: now phones, I mean, they're not boring, but like the features,

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00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: like we understand their water proof or this or that,

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00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: but like when these phones first came out with these

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00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: unique features, Like I remember going to a hotel pool

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00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 1: with one of the Galaxy S whatever when it got

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Speaker 1: water resistance, and I brought it to the pool and

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Speaker 1: like took under, you know, pictures of my kid, Like

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Speaker 1: we went swimming.

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Speaker 2: So it was like kind of fun, you know.

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Speaker 1: Now it's like okay, yeah, it's like everything is like

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,759
Speaker 1: table stakes, Like okay, it's water resistant, what else can

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Speaker 1: you do? And yeah, some of your most popular videos

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00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: are the ones that tell you all the things you

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Speaker 1: can do with these gadgets, which you know most people

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00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: are not. They're not getting the most out of all

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Speaker 1: of them. So that's good that you do that. So

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Speaker 1: give me the current state of smart home tech. Who

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00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:53,120
Speaker 1: do you think is winning?

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00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:53,919
Speaker 9: Uh?

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00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,720
Speaker 2: Who is winning?

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Speaker 8: Right now? It's kind of all over the place. I'm

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00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 8: still a Google Home fan. Alexis doing great, But there's

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Speaker 8: some other third parties like home Assistant. I don't know

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00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,319
Speaker 8: if you've heard about that, but that's a lot of

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00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 8: people are going that way where it's kind of all

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Speaker 8: done on your own, at your own home, with your

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Speaker 8: own server. I haven't got there, but a lot of

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Speaker 8: people are leaning that way because they're tired of waiting

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00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:18,440
Speaker 8: for these other companies to come out with these features

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Speaker 8: that work across the board with all products.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's interesting. Is that kind of like what Thread

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Speaker 1: is on these other ones? Because I know Thread does

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Speaker 1: everything locally, but that's not the same thing, is it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Thread is kind of like a protocol that you

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Speaker 8: can use. So Home Assistant has all the protocols, at

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Speaker 8: least they say they do, so you can take whatever

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Speaker 8: kind of device you have and then incorporate it into

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Speaker 8: their platform, where others like Apple Home, Google Home, Alexa.

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Speaker 8: You can use specific devices that are kind of built that,

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Speaker 8: but Thread has allowed you to add pretty much all

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Speaker 8: of these different devices into those platforms as well.

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Speaker 1: Oh I see Home Assistant is like open source. That's

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00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 1: cool exactly. Yeah, oh okay, So you have to have

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00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:57,360
Speaker 1: a little how would you run this? Like would you

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Speaker 1: run out on like a computer or something in your home?

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Speaker 8: You can You can totally do that all on your own,

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00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 8: but they do sell a little I think it's one

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00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 8: hundred dollars box that you can then apply. I haven't

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Speaker 8: done this myself, but everyone tells me I need to

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Speaker 8: because it answers all the problems with smart homes. But

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Speaker 8: it's a little thing you can add to your home

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Speaker 8: like a hub and then start working from there.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like it's much more hands on, like it's

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00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 1: not for the average like the average person could plug

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00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: in a Google Home or a smart speaker from Amazon

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00:56:23,560 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: and be up and running in like ten seconds. This

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00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:28,359
Speaker 1: seems like you have more control over what you're doing,

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00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,720
Speaker 1: but it's more for like tinkerers that know what they're doing.

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Speaker 8: Exactly where I myself, I like to have it, I

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00:56:34,080 --> 00:56:35,920
Speaker 8: pick it up, I set it up and it's ready

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00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 8: to go. I don't need a tinker with too much

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00:56:37,960 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 8: to get it working the way.

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Speaker 2: I want it to.

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Speaker 1: Now, you mentioned Google Home that you're a big fan.

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Speaker 1: Now I know my Google Home in recent months has

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Speaker 1: pretty much just given answers from the web at this point,

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00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 1: like anything you ask it, it's like it's not really

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00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:52,879
Speaker 1: it's like in this in between phase of it used

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00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: to be Google Assistant, it's not yet Gemini. What is

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00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 1: happening with that? Like, are we gonna get Gemini on

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Speaker 1: these Google Home devices?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is something I've been waiting for for a

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00:57:01,800 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 8: long time because Google's really pushing Gemini and I'm on

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00:57:05,920 --> 00:57:09,240
Speaker 8: the public beta preview or whatever. So I do currently

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00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 8: have Gemini on my Google Home speaker. So you may

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00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 8: be able to do it in the settings. You can

1239
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 8: actually go in and switch if you want to use

1240
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:18,800
Speaker 8: Google Assistant or if you want to switch it to Gemini,

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00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 8: which is rolling out to certain devices that you can

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00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 8: use it. And I've been using that on my devices

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00:57:24,880 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 8: at home and there's some good things that work great.

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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 8: Other things it's still trying to figure out how to

1245
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 8: do and learning and it's a stepping process. But I

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Speaker 8: think they're headed in the right direction.

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Speaker 1: I'm on the public preview and I check like every

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00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 1: day if I can get Gemini, and like, it's just not.

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00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: It's either I'm looking in the wrong place or it's

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00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 1: just not available to me just yet. So I am, yeah,

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00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:47,560
Speaker 1: I don't have it just yet still, So but once

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00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: you have it, I mean that should make things a

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Speaker 1: lot better.

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Speaker 2: So is Gemini.

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Speaker 1: It can answer questions, but it can also control the

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Speaker 1: smart home stuff.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so the main thing I'm using it for still

1258
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 8: is controlling my smart home stuff, so it now has

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Speaker 8: all that integrated. One of the new things that I've

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Speaker 8: noticed is if I set a timer, I can now

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Speaker 8: see the timer on my Android phone without having to

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 8: ask again and again when the timer's going to run.

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Speaker 8: So there's some integration there. There's still some things like

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Speaker 8: I asked it to turn off a fan last night,

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Speaker 8: but it turned off the wrong fan, so we're still

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00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,880
Speaker 8: getting that kind of worked out. But then there's some

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Speaker 8: extra integration, like if you have a Google Nest camera,

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Speaker 8: the new Nest cameras can understand what's happening in the scene,

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Speaker 8: so I can actually ask when my son was in

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Speaker 8: the backyard camera and it will let me know when

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Speaker 8: it last saw him.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's cool. That's it.

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Speaker 1: I was just talking about the Ring notifications I'm getting

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00:58:37,640 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: that are AI. So Ring is using AI to look

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Speaker 1: at what's happening with the video camera and it will

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00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: send you notification saying not just someone's at your front door,

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Speaker 1: it'll say there is a delivery person with a bag

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Speaker 1: at the front door, you know, something like that.

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Speaker 8: So yeah, very similar to what that's doing. And it's

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Speaker 8: really helpful. You can go on the app too, and

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00:58:54,640 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 8: it shows you know, this person was on their phone

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Speaker 8: under the umbrella in the backyard, and I'm like, wow,

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00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 8: that's pretty cool to have all that detail that you

1284
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 8: can even search through.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 1: Any standout gadgets you've been testing recently that you would recommend.

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Speaker 8: That I would recommend. Well, this year has been the

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00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,800
Speaker 8: year of robots at my house, so we've been doing

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Speaker 8: all kinds of robot vacuum in mops, robots, lawnmowers. I

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Speaker 8: don't have a pool, but I've also tested out a

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Speaker 8: few robot pool cleaners, and the latest ones is the Narwal.

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Speaker 8: I just test out their new Narwal Flow, which mops

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Speaker 8: perfectly in the home and vacuums up everything. So makes

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Speaker 8: our house a lot cleaner as we have all these

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Speaker 8: kids running around to make it dirty every day.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Wait, how many kids you have? We have four kids? Okay,

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Speaker 2: four kids. Yeah, that's a lot. My parents had five.

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Speaker 1: I've got two and I we're good with two because

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Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot, you know, kids are My

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Speaker 1: kid just went to high school this week, so I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: it's it's wild.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot to clean up, that's sure.

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Speaker 1: Well, I've got one of those robotic vacuums the now,

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Speaker 1: the narwalal Flow. Is that an upright or is that

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Speaker 1: an actual? Like it just goes by itself. It just

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Speaker 1: goes by itself, so okay, all on its own. You

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Speaker 1: can have it run while you're sleeping and it mops

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Speaker 1: and vacuums and does everything. Okay, Yeah, that's handy. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I've got the upright one from robo Rock and I

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Speaker 1: love it. I mean, is it is so cool to

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Speaker 1: be able to mop and vacuum at the same time,

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Speaker 1: because you would think that it wouldn't be good at

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Speaker 1: either of those, but it's really good at both of

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Speaker 1: those things.

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Speaker 8: That's the favorite product I brought home from my wife.

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Speaker 8: She loves how it's just so quick and easy to

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Speaker 8: quickly get it done.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So let's talk about a common question. I

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Speaker 1: know you got probably a lot of emails from people

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Speaker 1: that watch your channel on YouTube Tech with Brett. What

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Speaker 1: are some of the common questions you get these days

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Speaker 1: about technology and smart homes.

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Speaker 8: So one of the biggest things is how things are

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Speaker 8: going to work together or how you can have them

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Speaker 8: work together. So you know, what smartlights should I get

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Speaker 8: to incorporate it into my smart home if I want

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Speaker 8: them to automatically turn off at night, or when I

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Speaker 8: open a door with a sensor. So those are some

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Speaker 8: of the big things that people are focusing on, and

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Speaker 8: in my life that's what I use mainly, just simple

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Speaker 8: little products that benefit my life. Like we have a

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Speaker 8: garage without a window, and nobody ever wants to go

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Speaker 8: in there if it's dark. So I have a little

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Speaker 8: door sensor right on the door. You open the door,

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Speaker 8: and it automatically turns on the lights that are on

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Speaker 8: a smart light switch. So the grudge has never been

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Speaker 8: dark to us, even though it's just because we're opening

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Speaker 8: the door. The light's automatically tron, which is a huge

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Speaker 8: benefit to our lives.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's such a small thing, but this is

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Speaker 1: what I find about the home. The smart home tech

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Speaker 1: stuff is like it's like you set it up once

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it works for a very long time. But

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Speaker 1: it really like changes the dynamic of things in your home,

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Speaker 1: and it seems intimidating at first to like set it up.

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Speaker 1: Like I've got a system in my kitchen where I've

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Speaker 1: got those lights underneath the cabinets and I set up

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Speaker 1: a sensor, like a motion sensor. So every time I

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Speaker 1: walk into my kitchen, the lights under the cabinets come on,

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Speaker 1: and I love it. And I set it up like

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Speaker 1: years ago and it still works. And it's just one

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Speaker 1: of those things that was like, yeah, it took a

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Speaker 1: little bit to figure out, but once you do. Or

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Speaker 1: in the hallway, I've got a light that you know,

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Speaker 1: you've got a sensor in the hallway and every time

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Speaker 1: you get near that hallway, the light comes on. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, at night, the light comes on at

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Speaker 1: a varying brightness, like a lower brightness. So it's like

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Speaker 1: these little things that like once you figure it out

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Speaker 1: and you get it up and running, it really does

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Speaker 1: impact your life in a pretty beneficial way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you're talking advanced automations now, but clearly pretty easy

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Speaker 8: to do and something that changes the way you run

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Speaker 8: life and it makes things easier and more fun kind.

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Speaker 1: Of Now in your home? Can anyone else figure out

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Speaker 1: these automations? Because that's the thing, Like if I do

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Speaker 1: something wrong, my wife is like, why isn't this work?

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I give you.

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Speaker 1: A minute here, Like something changed, clearly, Yeah, that's That's

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Speaker 1: been a.

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Speaker 8: Problem on a few things I've added. So whenever I'm

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Speaker 8: adding a new product to the home, I think about

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Speaker 8: is everyone going to be able to use this? So

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Speaker 8: I really like products that you can easily use, Like

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Speaker 8: I use Cassada smart light switches in my home and

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Speaker 8: they have controllers right on your light switch, or I

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Speaker 8: can go on the app and control everything, or I

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Speaker 8: can set up automations where at nine o'clock at night

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Speaker 8: and the light automatically turns on and then it turns

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Speaker 8: off at a certain period of time. So I like

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Speaker 8: having all the different ways you can control the home

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Speaker 8: instead of me being the only one that knows how

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Speaker 8: to do anything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a good one, all right. We got less

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Speaker 1: than a minute. Any useful apps or websites you want

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Speaker 1: to recommend before we go.

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Speaker 8: You know, I think we talked about Gemini, but even

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Speaker 8: just using Gemini, they have this new video feature you've

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Speaker 8: probably talked about a lot, but that you can ask

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Speaker 8: it questions. And my dad's even using that to help

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Speaker 8: him learn how to use his Alexa better. So there's

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Speaker 8: kind of some integration there that you can use. Because

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Speaker 8: now they're pretty smart.

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Speaker 2: All the AI.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean AI is everywhere, and yes, I know

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Speaker 1: people are scared of it and it's apprehensive, but it's

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Speaker 1: it does do some really cool things when it works right.

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Speaker 1: Brett Pristo Tech with Brett is the YouTube channel all

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Speaker 1: kinds of tips and tricks to help you make your

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Speaker 1: tech work the way you want it to check them

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Speaker 1: out on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining me today, Thanks so much. Rich all right,

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Speaker 2: I'll put.

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Speaker 1: The link to Brett's YouTube channel my website rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot tv coming up. We'll take your calls at

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Speaker 1: four to two.

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Speaker 2: Four one zero one. Welcome back to rich on tech.

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Speaker 1: Eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: seven four to two four one zero one. Rich on

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Speaker 1: tech dot tv is the website. If you were listening

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Speaker 1: to the interview with Brett, I got everything you mentioned

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Speaker 1: linked up on the website rich on tech dot tv.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Kathy in Los Angeles. Kathy, welcome to show.

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Speaker 9: Rich. Hi are you.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing fantastic. Thank you for asking.

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Speaker 9: Okay, here's my question. I am a reseller on eBay, posh, CRAIGSLISTA.

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Speaker 9: I have a lot of clothing items with tags, the

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Speaker 9: original tags A lot of them have, especially from Macy's.

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Speaker 9: In order to return the items, there is a sticker

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Speaker 9: with a barcode. Yes, and if you don't have that

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Speaker 9: sticker with the barcode, it looks like you can't return it.

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Speaker 2: Correct.

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Speaker 9: Well, my question is if I sell the item to somebody,

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Speaker 9: can they access that credit card information?

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Speaker 1: Oh that's a great question. So those little barcodes, let's see.

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Speaker 1: So the Macy's barcodes, I'm gonna see if there's anything

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Speaker 1: documented about what's on those What info do they hold?

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Speaker 1: So I think that barcode what I think it does?

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Speaker 1: I know they started this to combat theft and you know,

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Speaker 1: fraudulent returns and things like that, So I think that

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Speaker 1: barcode links up that item to a particular receipt, and

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Speaker 1: I think that's all it does. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's that barcode specifically holds any information that you could

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Speaker 1: scan to see it. Now, you could get a barcode

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Speaker 1: scanning app on your But the thing is what that

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Speaker 1: does is it's just going to give you it doesn't

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Speaker 1: don't they have a number listed on the barcode underneath it?

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Speaker 9: You mean like a bunch of numbers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, So I think what it's doing is it's

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Speaker 1: just it's just that barcode is just giving those numbers.

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Speaker 1: That's all it's doing. Now, if you were if you

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Speaker 1: had access to Macy's database, you could pop those numbers

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Speaker 1: into a database and then see what Macy's has connected

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Speaker 1: to that. But the average person does not have access

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Speaker 1: to that.

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Speaker 9: So so anyway, if I sell it to somebody in

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Speaker 9: another state when there's a Macy's, they go they can

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Speaker 9: take it to Macy's and go, hi, I would like

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Speaker 9: to return this. Would they be able to return it

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Speaker 9: without physical receipts?

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't know does Macy's allow you to do that?

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Speaker 1: Because I think that they basically did. So when you

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Speaker 1: go to Macy's.

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Speaker 5: Have you.

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Speaker 1: I haven't returned to Macy's in a while. But basically,

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Speaker 1: do they just scan that little barcode on the clothing.

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Speaker 2: And that's it? Yep, and it brings up everything? Now,

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Speaker 2: why would you?

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Speaker 1: Okay, So if that's the case, maybe you just don't

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Speaker 1: include these barcodes.

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Speaker 2: On the on the No.

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Speaker 9: No, I just removed like four today, I thought, because

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Speaker 9: I'm really LERI of barcodes. Which leads me to another question.

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Speaker 9: Because I buy a lot on Amazon and the box

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Speaker 9: is the banks, there are tons of barcodes. Yes, I

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Speaker 9: rip off my address, but there's still all these bar codes.

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Speaker 9: Should I rip everything off or cover it?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 9: No?

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Speaker 2: I don't think you need to anything. That is.

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Speaker 1: It is a great question as well, because I often

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Speaker 1: wonder this when I reuse a box from Amazon. So

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Speaker 1: a lot of those barcodes are just internal to their

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Speaker 1: system and so they're not going to have any personal

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Speaker 1: identifiable information that links them to you. The main thing

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Speaker 1: that might link them to you is if there is

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Speaker 1: a tracking number on there from a major tracking company

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Speaker 1: like a UPS or a FedEx.

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Speaker 2: But you know Amazon doesn't love their own stuff really Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Well ah, well yeah, so I would take those off

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Speaker 1: because what you could do is, now here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: It may not show your address, but it may show

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Speaker 1: where it was delivered. So let's say you live in

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Speaker 1: you know, you said you live in LA. Let's say

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Speaker 1: you lived in a very specific city that this package

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Speaker 1: was delivered to. It would say that name of that

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Speaker 1: city if someone popped in that tracking number, so that

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Speaker 1: you know. And I think it's good that you're you're

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Speaker 1: aware of all these different things, because yes, we should

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Speaker 1: be questioning this stuff and making sure that if you're

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Speaker 1: reusing something or you're, you know, sending something to someone,

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Speaker 1: you know, even something as simple as a picture from

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Speaker 1: your smartphone, it may include your GPS information in there.

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Speaker 1: So you have to think about these things as you

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Speaker 1: do this stuff.

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Speaker 9: What do you mean a picture like if I take

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Speaker 9: a picture for eBay, can somebody actually find information about

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Speaker 9: the photo?

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Speaker 1: Theoretically, but eBay and many of the social media sites

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Speaker 1: they strip that what's called exif data exif they strip that,

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Speaker 1: they strip that information.

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Speaker 2: Hold on, let me, I'm getting a website here. Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, what's that? What I mean?

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Speaker 9: It's like, for example, which is even worse, Craigslist. If

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01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 9: i'm selling locally, yes, or offer up, and there's the

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01:09:16,600 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 9: photos I take. Somebody can actually kind of research.

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01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,439
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so I'm looking I'm looking here.

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01:09:26,840 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 1: Uh okay, so yes, So Craigslist does strip the exift data.

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01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:33,760
Speaker 1: So here's what I would do. So I would there's

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01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 1: a there's a great website called Jeffrey's Exift Viewer, And

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01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 1: I know it's a it's a weird name, but it's

1514
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 1: a super simple website. And you can take an image

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01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: either a file or a URL. You can pop it

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01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 1: into this website and it will tell you if the

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01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: image data is in that website, and so you can.

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:56,559
Speaker 1: Now here's the thing. Not every website strips this information,

1519
01:09:56,720 --> 01:09:58,720
Speaker 1: which is why it's best to do it on your

1520
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,760
Speaker 1: own before you post these things, because it could be

1521
01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: embedded in there. So look, Kathy, I don't want to

1522
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,160
Speaker 1: scare you. I think you're you're doing okay, and most

1523
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: people are not. You know, most people are good people

1524
01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,080
Speaker 1: that are buying this stuff, and it's fine, but I

1525
01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: would be aware of this. And so if I were you,

1526
01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 1: before you upload your pictures anywhere, I would just use

1527
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:21,120
Speaker 1: a simple tool to strip the exit data. And I

1528
01:10:21,200 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 1: you know, I have a tool that I use that

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01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 1: I do that with every time TENI fy T, I

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01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: n I f y.

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01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:28,479
Speaker 2: You can use that.

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01:10:29,160 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 9: I've got it.

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01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:32,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm gonna put it all on the website. I'll

1534
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,439
Speaker 1: put everything on the website. So great questions, Kathy, really

1535
01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:39,240
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Really, you know, you got to think about

1536
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: this stuff. Privacy is very important, especially in the digital world.

1537
01:10:42,760 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 1: It is very easy to share this stuff, and once

1538
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:47,439
Speaker 1: it's out there, it's tough to take back. This is

1539
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

1540
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,599
Speaker 1: DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at Triple

1541
01:10:55,640 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: eight rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 1: two four one zero one. All right, So before the

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01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,200
Speaker 1: break we were talking about EXIF data, and I feel

1544
01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 1: like I need to talk about it a little bit

1545
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: more just to help you understand what this is. So

1546
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: and then we'll get to the calls, I promise. But basically,

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:25,000
Speaker 1: when you take a picture, your phone puts information into

1548
01:11:25,040 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: that picture, including GPS location of where that picture was taken. Now,

1549
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:34,160
Speaker 1: typically when you share that picture, that information is embedded

1550
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,960
Speaker 1: in the file and someone that knows what they're doing

1551
01:11:37,000 --> 01:11:39,439
Speaker 1: could see where that image is on a map. So

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01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 1: let me give you an example. You post you're selling

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01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 1: a car, and you post a picture of your car

1554
01:11:45,240 --> 01:11:47,840
Speaker 1: and your driveway on some form on the web. Well,

1555
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,479
Speaker 1: someone could theoretically download that picture, pop it into a viewer,

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01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,799
Speaker 1: and see exactly the GPS coordinates of where that picture

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01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 1: was taken.

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01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 2: This This happens all the time.

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01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:57,280
Speaker 5: You know.

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01:11:57,280 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 1: There's been many documented cases where celebrities post something and

1561
01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 1: someone that's smart goes in and says, hey, you know

1562
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,519
Speaker 1: you're sharing your address too. Now, many of because they've

1563
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:10,640
Speaker 1: gotten hip to this, many of the major sharing platforms

1564
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:14,559
Speaker 1: like an X, like a threads, like a Facebook, they

1565
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,240
Speaker 1: typically strip this data out of these pictures when you

1566
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: upload them. They keep it and of course they use

1567
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,599
Speaker 1: it for their own benefits, which is they can tell

1568
01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 1: exactly where you're uploading this picture from or where you

1569
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 1: took this picture, and they slice and dice that data

1570
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: in a million different ways and use it for all

1571
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: kinds of stuff.

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01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 2: But that's besides the point.

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01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 1: But they make it so that that picture doesn't have

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01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: that metadata if you download it. So if I go

1575
01:12:39,520 --> 01:12:42,559
Speaker 1: on Facebook and download five random pictures from people that

1576
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 1: posted them, there shouldn't be location information in those pictures.

1577
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,200
Speaker 2: So you're safe in that way.

1578
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 1: But I would argue that you probably want to remove

1579
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:55,240
Speaker 1: this data no matter what you want it in your

1580
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: pictures because it helps you see your pictures on a

1581
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,320
Speaker 1: map and search for where you took pictures and things

1582
01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: like this. But if you're sharing them outside of your phone,

1583
01:13:02,479 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: you probably want to get rid of this. Now, if

1584
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 1: you look at the iPhone, when you go to share

1585
01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: a picture with someone, there's actually an option up at

1586
01:13:10,240 --> 01:13:12,880
Speaker 1: the top that says do you want to include the

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01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:15,360
Speaker 1: location data? So if you look at it right at

1588
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:18,520
Speaker 1: the top, when you go share, it says location is included,

1589
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: and you can tap options and you can turn that off.

1590
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: And so that picture, when you share it with someone,

1591
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:27,719
Speaker 1: wherever you're sharing it, where they're uploading it, whatever you're doing,

1592
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:31,439
Speaker 1: that location data will not be embedded into that picture.

1593
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna check on Android and see if it's got

1594
01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: it on there. Let's go to the gallery on the Samsung.

1595
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:40,680
Speaker 1: Here's a picture I just took. Let's go share, and

1596
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: I see up at the top it says one image options.

1597
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: Tap the options and there it is include location data.

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01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 1: So turn that off if you don't want your location included.

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01:13:52,479 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 1: How is this helpful. Let's say you meet someone online

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01:13:55,240 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: and you're chatting with them, they say, hey, send me

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01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:00,559
Speaker 1: a picture. You can take the location data off that picture.

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01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really like you probably never even noticed

1603
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: this was an option when you're sharing photos, but now

1604
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,720
Speaker 1: that I told you about it, you'll notice. Now there's

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01:14:09,720 --> 01:14:12,680
Speaker 1: a couple websites I mentioned Jeffrey's Eggs if you were

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01:14:12,880 --> 01:14:15,639
Speaker 1: clearly that is no longer being updated. So I've found

1607
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: some new ones that do something very similar. So if

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01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: you want to take a picture that you've gotten, just

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01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: take any photo from your library, download it and pop

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01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:25,759
Speaker 1: it into this website and see what happens.

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,040
Speaker 2: Exif editor dot io.

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01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,559
Speaker 1: As soon as you upload that picture, it will show

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01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 1: you on a GPS map where that picture was taken

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:35,599
Speaker 1: if the information is in there, and then it gives

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01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:39,679
Speaker 1: you an option to scrub that metadata as well. Jimple

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01:14:39,800 --> 01:14:43,639
Speaker 1: jimpl dot com. You can drag and drop a picture

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01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 1: in there, or you can take a URL from a

1618
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:49,559
Speaker 1: website photo and put it in there and you can

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01:14:49,600 --> 01:14:52,400
Speaker 1: see if the person left the metadata in there. And

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01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:54,479
Speaker 1: I'm not telling you this to be nefarious. I'm telling

1621
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,160
Speaker 1: this to you because you need to know about this.

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01:14:57,160 --> 01:14:58,799
Speaker 1: This is really important stuff.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:00,120
Speaker 5: Now.

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01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:01,680
Speaker 1: If you want to get rid of the metadata on

1625
01:15:01,720 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: your pictures, I told you the two ways to do

1626
01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: it when you're sharing a picture on your iPhone or

1627
01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:08,640
Speaker 1: you're Android. There are also apps on your iPhone and

1628
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: Android that will help you remove this data from your pictures.

1629
01:15:11,400 --> 01:15:13,519
Speaker 1: I don't have a good recommendation for that right now,

1630
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:18,519
Speaker 1: but on the web there's a website called priv metapriv

1631
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 1: meta dot com, and I like this one because it

1632
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: can be done completely offline, So you can turn the

1633
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: Internet off on your computer and you can still remove

1634
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 1: the metadata from a photo. And so you can just

1635
01:15:30,960 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: drag a photo in there and press removed metadata. It

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01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: will download that picture immediately without the metadata. So I

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01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: would say, at the very least, if you're sharing pictures

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01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:43,599
Speaker 1: to a major website, just put them through this first,

1639
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 1: so that the website doesn't have access to that metadata,

1640
01:15:47,200 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: and then the person downloading it doesn't have access either.

1641
01:15:50,479 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 1: The only little caveat to this, because I remove metadata

1642
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: from iphotos all the time, is that sometimes if it

1643
01:15:56,280 --> 01:16:00,439
Speaker 1: strips the metadata, it strips more than the location photo

1644
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: maybe turned upside down or something, because inside that metadata

1645
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 1: it also tells the computer, Hey, the person took the

1646
01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:10,000
Speaker 1: photo this way like this was this is the right

1647
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,360
Speaker 1: way up. So sometimes you may have to rotate your photos.

1648
01:16:12,439 --> 01:16:14,960
Speaker 1: You'll notice that will happen from time to time. Anyway,

1649
01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put this all on the website. Rich on

1650
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:20,880
Speaker 1: tech Dot TV again, episode one thirty four. You just

1651
01:16:20,880 --> 01:16:23,000
Speaker 1: gave me a great idea for a TV segment, so

1652
01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: I will be doing a TV segment on this soon

1653
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: as well. It's one of those things that I take

1654
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: for granted, and I think a lot of techies take

1655
01:16:28,840 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: for granted. But people average person just doesn't realize how

1656
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:36,559
Speaker 1: much information is embedded in a photo when they send

1657
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:38,640
Speaker 1: it to someone else. So it's very good to know

1658
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: that information. All right, Let's uh, let's see here. Let's

1659
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:48,320
Speaker 1: see here. Sue is in Long Beach. Sue, you're on

1660
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 1: with Rich. Sounds like more privacy question, Huh.

1661
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 10: Yes. The last color that just called was asking about

1662
01:16:55,439 --> 01:16:58,400
Speaker 10: farcodes and all that, and I've always wondered and someone

1663
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 10: told me once because traveling, occasionally you stay in a

1664
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 10: hotel and the path the card that you use as

1665
01:17:04,520 --> 01:17:08,240
Speaker 10: your key, that I always take them home because someone said,

1666
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:10,080
Speaker 10: don't leave them in the room because there's all your

1667
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,320
Speaker 10: information is embedded in that card. Is that true?

1668
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:13,799
Speaker 2: No? Not true?

1669
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 1: That is that is false. Here's the deal. So let's

1670
01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:21,200
Speaker 1: let's just say, let's just say you're Marriott, right, would

1671
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:24,240
Speaker 1: you put all of your guests personal information, including their

1672
01:17:24,240 --> 01:17:26,519
Speaker 1: credit card, on this thing that can be lost, stolen,

1673
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 1: easily taken, whatever.

1674
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: No, you would not. So is there information on these cards? Absolutely?

1675
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,720
Speaker 2: Is it anything that links you to anyone else? No?

1676
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 2: Or your credit card information? No?

1677
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:43,920
Speaker 1: So I I do not worry about these cards. You know,

1678
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:48,200
Speaker 1: these major hotel chains definitely think about this stuff in advance.

1679
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 1: In fact, the reason why we have these cards is

1680
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,280
Speaker 1: because if you look at them, your your room number

1681
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 1: is not listed on that card for a reason, because

1682
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:00,160
Speaker 1: think about it, if you found that card, you know,

1683
01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:02,000
Speaker 1: laying by the pool, what would you do. The first

1684
01:18:02,040 --> 01:18:04,320
Speaker 1: thing some would do is go to that room and

1685
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: steal everything in it. So there's no personal information, personally

1686
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: identifiable personally identifiable information. So what might be you know,

1687
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: there might be exceptions to this, Like in the old days,

1688
01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,519
Speaker 1: there was a magnetic strip on a lot of these.

1689
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 1: Now most of them are RFID, so there used to

1690
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 1: be a magnetic strip that may have contained information, So

1691
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: I'm saying, so am I saying that you can never

1692
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 1: find information on these cards? No, But the modern hotels

1693
01:18:31,600 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 1: that are using these tap cards, most of them are

1694
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:37,840
Speaker 1: programmed in a way to protect your personal information and

1695
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: your credit card. So I don't think there's any reason

1696
01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:44,600
Speaker 1: to worry about leaving them. But I personally, you know,

1697
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:46,679
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll take one home if I think they're cool.

1698
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:49,120
Speaker 1: That's the only reason. But I will also, you know,

1699
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,680
Speaker 1: you can give it to the front desk, and that

1700
01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 1: way you ensure to a much higher degree that if

1701
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: there was anything on these cards, it's not going to

1702
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:57,000
Speaker 1: land in the wrong hands.

1703
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:58,719
Speaker 2: That make you feel better.

1704
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,680
Speaker 10: Yes, thank you very much for confirming that for me.

1705
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:02,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, Sue.

1706
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 1: I'm actually quite impressed with these cards because they somehow

1707
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:09,559
Speaker 1: I don't when I go to a hotel. I'm impressed

1708
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,000
Speaker 1: that these things even work, and they somehow program them

1709
01:19:13,000 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: to only work for a certain period of time. So

1710
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 1: if you get like late checkout for a hotel room,

1711
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: which I often we'll ask for, they have to reprogram

1712
01:19:21,280 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 1: your cards because your card is typically going to stop

1713
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,760
Speaker 1: working at eleven am. Now, every hotel is different.

1714
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 2: Don't you know. Come, you know, emailing me.

1715
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: If rich I was able to open my door at

1716
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: eleven oh five, Okay, you may be able to do

1717
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 1: that once in a while.

1718
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:34,960
Speaker 2: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 1: But the thing is, all of these hotels, modern hotels,

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:41,479
Speaker 1: using modern key card systems. You know, they're always thinking

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01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,240
Speaker 1: about the privacy and security of their guests, and so

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01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: it is in their best interest to make sure that

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01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:50,840
Speaker 1: they are not encoding your credit card number, your name,

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01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,880
Speaker 1: your room number on those cards. Can it happen sure?

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: Did it happen in the back in the past. Maybe,

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01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: But again I think that most of these cards just

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01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:03,120
Speaker 1: include some sort of you know, token or exchange number

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01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 1: that just basically the system looks that up to see

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01:20:06,360 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 1: if it can unlock that door. Now, if you had

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01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: access to their back end system, like I said, with

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01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:15,360
Speaker 1: the Macy's barcode, could you get more information perhaps? But

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01:20:15,800 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: you know, for me, what you know, it's interesting with

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01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:22,879
Speaker 1: hotels because I'm always thinking about privacy and security always.

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01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not kidding.

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01:20:24,439 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 1: I picked up my kid from school early yesterday and

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01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:30,040
Speaker 1: my school called me to make sure the person picking

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01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,080
Speaker 1: them up was okay. And I said, you know, as

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01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: my mom picking up my kid, and they called me

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01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:38,160
Speaker 1: and said, we're sorry, mister Demiro, we have to confirm

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01:20:38,200 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: that it's you allowing this person to pick up your kid,

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01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:42,439
Speaker 1: and I said, yes, it is me. They said, okay,

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01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:44,880
Speaker 1: thank you for that verbal okay, And when my mom

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01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:46,599
Speaker 1: and kid got back into the car, I said, okay,

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01:20:46,760 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: Now here's how I think as a tech person. Here's okay,

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01:20:50,240 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: let's say you are going nefariously to pick up some

1746
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,639
Speaker 1: random kid at a school, maybe you're trying to kidnap them, whatever.

1747
01:20:57,680 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 1: Here's how that would work.

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01:20:59,080 --> 01:20:59,720
Speaker 2: You would have this.

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01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,680
Speaker 1: You would hijack the person's phone number, right, so you

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01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: have the person's control of their cell phone. Now you've

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01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:07,880
Speaker 1: got the person's cell phone in your command. And then

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01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:09,880
Speaker 1: the school calls you to say, hey, is this okay,

1753
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:13,400
Speaker 1: we're calling the parent. You've now voice cloned that parent's voice.

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01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: And when they call that phone, you say, yes, I'm

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01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 1: the parent, it's okay, they can take my kid. This

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01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,880
Speaker 1: is the stuff I think about. This is the stuff

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01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,000
Speaker 1: we are up against. And you may be laughing, you

1758
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 1: may be saying, oh, that's out of that's wild, but no,

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01:21:26,640 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 1: there are people thinking about this stuff. So you as

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01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 1: a as a consumer, as an average person, as a

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: person that's just out there living your life, you have

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01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:40,719
Speaker 1: to always think about the potential of fraud, of security issues,

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01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 1: of privacy issues, no matter what. Now that may sound

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01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,559
Speaker 1: far fetched, but this is happening on a daily basis.

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01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 1: Maybe not with kids, but with all kinds of voice.

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01:21:49,080 --> 01:21:51,760
Speaker 1: People are out there trying to figure out ways to

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01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 1: scam us every day, especially using new technology. So just

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01:21:55,880 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 1: I guess my bigger point with the hotel is anytime

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01:21:58,520 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: I go to the front desk to say like, hey,

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01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: can I get a new key or a key mate,

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01:22:01,880 --> 01:22:03,960
Speaker 1: or can I get into my room if the housekeeping

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,680
Speaker 1: is outside, I always want them to either ask for

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01:22:06,760 --> 01:22:09,680
Speaker 1: my ID or somehow confirm that that is my room

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01:22:09,760 --> 01:22:11,400
Speaker 1: without just letting me in, because that.

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Speaker 2: Would be a major security issue.

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Speaker 1: Eighty eight Rich one on one eighty eight seven four

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Speaker 1: to two, four one zero one. This is Rich on Tech.

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01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:23,719
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: out with you, talking technology. Triple eight rich one oh

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Speaker 1: one eighty eight eight seven four to two four to

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Speaker 1: one zero one. Uh, Sandford is in Santa Barbara. You're

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Speaker 1: on with Rich Hi.

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01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:39,120
Speaker 5: Rich, you know I've been listening to you since day one.

1784
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 5: For you to replace my mentor unbelievable. You're wonderful.

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01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:46,519
Speaker 2: No, how do you?

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01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 5: How do you get this job? Uh? Well, I mean you,

1787
01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:56,520
Speaker 5: you reference you, you reference your mother constantly. It's wonderful.

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01:22:56,800 --> 01:23:00,680
Speaker 5: I I you know I have some problem. Is I

1789
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:04,240
Speaker 5: hope you can help me? I? No, no, I know.

1790
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:07,880
Speaker 5: I'm dying of three cancers, one reoccurring recently. But the

1791
01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:13,360
Speaker 5: UCLA got the worst treatment. It was horror. The whole thing.

1792
01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:17,840
Speaker 5: My whole life is based around one thing, me being entertained.

1793
01:23:17,880 --> 01:23:21,920
Speaker 5: When I'm lying in hospitals and nursing homes staring at

1794
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 5: the ceiling, I need to be have a projector. That

1795
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 5: is so simple that I just say that. Just I

1796
01:23:31,520 --> 01:23:33,880
Speaker 5: just flip the switch and it goes on and I

1797
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,400
Speaker 5: can see everything I want to see above me while

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01:23:36,439 --> 01:23:39,000
Speaker 5: I lie there, complete.

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01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 10: Disarray.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just horrible.

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry to hear that, but I hope you're

1802
01:23:46,280 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: getting well.

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01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:50,120
Speaker 5: And no, no, no, there's no way out of this.

1804
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 5: You have three cancers and five other life threatening medical conditions.

1805
01:23:54,560 --> 01:24:00,000
Speaker 5: You're not getting out of this. This is inevitable. I've

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01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,360
Speaker 5: I'm currently speaking to you on a motoroller is E

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01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 5: four that has a instant projector on it, but something

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:18,439
Speaker 5: old garbage. I need a projector that is direct Wi

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01:24:18,479 --> 01:24:21,760
Speaker 5: Fi to whatever phone I have in my hand. I

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01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 5: don't need an app to go through. I don't need it.

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01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,559
Speaker 5: I just need it just to turn it on and

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01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:30,320
Speaker 5: it says this projector right over here it is goes

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01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 5: Wi Fi to my phone and I just hit it

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01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:33,880
Speaker 5: and it's on.

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01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:39,040
Speaker 1: Well, okay, Well, first off, I'm happy to be here

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01:24:39,040 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 1: for you. I'm glad that you like to listen and

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01:24:40,960 --> 01:24:43,080
Speaker 1: appreciate this show. That really means a lot to me,

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01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:46,000
Speaker 1: more than you think, or more than you know, I

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01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,880
Speaker 1: should say.

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01:24:48,240 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 5: So, are you able to call me off the air?

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01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:51,760
Speaker 11: Yeah?

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01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:53,799
Speaker 1: Well, well we can get Kim to get your info

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01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 1: and we can do that.

1824
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,400
Speaker 5: But I want to tell you something really cute. I

1825
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:04,280
Speaker 5: when I was born in nineteen fifty one, my birth

1826
01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 5: certificate says on it father's occupation, and it says radio

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01:25:10,560 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 5: announcer at where That's right kfi?

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01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,840
Speaker 2: Really absolutely Who is he?

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01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:22,360
Speaker 5: Well, you wouldn't know him. His name is Red Row

1830
01:25:23,640 --> 01:25:27,479
Speaker 5: and he was one of the very first announcers to

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01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:31,559
Speaker 5: do commercials live and then he went to television. He

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01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:36,719
Speaker 5: started morning talk show television on CBS. Oh wow, it's.

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01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:41,280
Speaker 2: So cool. Long history with radios, that's amazing.

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01:25:42,600 --> 01:25:44,400
Speaker 5: But as I listened to you and do you reference

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01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 5: your mother and thinks I just go this guy WHOA.

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01:25:49,520 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 5: I like how you talked to the last collar and

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01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 5: spoke of things that could be It was wonderful about

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,759
Speaker 5: things that you know, people don't think of, about staff

1839
01:26:00,240 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 5: taking in this and that. That's great. Man.

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01:26:02,640 --> 01:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm usually a very positive person, but I

1841
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,040
Speaker 1: do think my mind, you know, I'm always thinking in

1842
01:26:08,080 --> 01:26:10,639
Speaker 1: that that aspect of what could go wrong here? What

1843
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: is the what is the implication of anything, especially when

1844
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:14,080
Speaker 1: it comes.

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01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:17,160
Speaker 5: To tel I'm sure you'll get over that eventually.

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01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,960
Speaker 1: So let's let's talk about what you're what you're calling

1847
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,600
Speaker 1: in for. This idea of uh a projector that you

1848
01:26:25,640 --> 01:26:28,559
Speaker 1: can connect your phone now, I think it's.

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01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:31,760
Speaker 5: A small like a little TV thing that projects to

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01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,360
Speaker 5: wherever I wanted to do and it just needs to

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01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,160
Speaker 5: go direct Wi Fi. I don't need the apps in between.

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01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:38,920
Speaker 2: I need to be well.

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01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:43,759
Speaker 1: Here's here's the issue I'm I'm thinking of with direct

1854
01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: Wi Fi. So most of these apps that you want

1855
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: to that you want to mirror to, they don't necessarily

1856
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:53,360
Speaker 1: like the idea of their content being mirrored, you know,

1857
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:57,559
Speaker 1: without their approval. So a lot of the apps, especially

1858
01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:59,719
Speaker 1: when it comes to projectors, they want to be casted

1859
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,160
Speaker 1: if if that's the you know, if the the projector

1860
01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:05,880
Speaker 1: supports casting. So a couple of ways you can go here.

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01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,599
Speaker 1: Number one, I think the best projector if you want

1862
01:27:08,640 --> 01:27:13,120
Speaker 1: something that's small. Nebula makes a projector called the Capsule,

1863
01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: which is really incredible.

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01:27:15,720 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: It's the size of a soda can.

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01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 1: It's super simple and it's easy and it's got good

1866
01:27:20,040 --> 01:27:22,679
Speaker 1: software and so you can use that, but I don't

1867
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:25,760
Speaker 1: know if you're gonna be able to actually cast to

1868
01:27:25,880 --> 01:27:29,599
Speaker 1: it versus or sorry a Wi Fi direct versus casting.

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01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,479
Speaker 1: So I'm looking at their page to see if they support. Yeah,

1870
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: mostly Chrome cast. You know, Netflix cannot be Chrome cast

1871
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: or mirrored, but you can, okay, So it does say

1872
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:43,720
Speaker 1: you can mirror Android device to the projector, so you

1873
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:46,160
Speaker 1: can do that. Now, it depends what app will allow that,

1874
01:27:46,160 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: that's for sure. It's it's going to depend on apps,

1875
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: but you've got that option. So that's number one. The

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01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,840
Speaker 1: other brand I like is x Jimmy x g I

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 1: m I and they make some portable projectors. They're not

1878
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:01,559
Speaker 1: as small, but they make one called the Mogo which

1879
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,840
Speaker 1: is really nice as well, and they do have casting there.

1880
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,800
Speaker 1: So the other thing Sanford that I would say to

1881
01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: look into is X reel that X real glasses.

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01:28:10,479 --> 01:28:11,240
Speaker 2: You can just put on.

1883
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:13,679
Speaker 1: You can be sitting in any position and see something

1884
01:28:13,720 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 1: projected above you and those connect write to your phone,

1885
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:19,559
Speaker 1: no intermediary apps, so that might be the way to go.

1886
01:28:20,200 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for the call today. I really appreciate it.

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01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: Eighty to eight rich one oh one. This is rich

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01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: on Tech. Welcome back to rich On Tech. David Lombard

1889
01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:33,960
Speaker 1: is founder of the Laptop Elf Project and he is

1890
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:37,799
Speaker 1: here to talk about the best ways to securely, erase, recycle,

1891
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: or donate your old Mac or PC.

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01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 2: David, welcome to the show.

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01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 11: Thank you, Rich appreciate the invite. Good to see you again.

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01:28:45,439 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Yes, we did a story for KTLA on TV a

1895
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago and you've been doing this ever since.

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01:28:52,080 --> 01:28:54,479
Speaker 1: So you've got tell me what the Laptop Elf Project is.

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Speaker 11: So there's a couple of us volunteers, doctor Leo and me.

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01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:04,360
Speaker 12: We collect unwanted working laptops, small desktops and tablets. We

1899
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:07,519
Speaker 12: wipe and refurbish them and give them to public school

1900
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:11,840
Speaker 12: teachers and to nonprofits that help low income families and individuals.

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01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 12: I'm almost twenty five hundred units donated so far.

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01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's amazing.

1903
01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:19,479
Speaker 1: And so you take these computers, people think, oh, this

1904
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 1: computer is no good anymore, but you're like, no, no, no,

1905
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:23,719
Speaker 1: it's still good.

1906
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: How long do you think a computer can actually last?

1907
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 12: So for most average users using email some web stuff,

1908
01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:34,120
Speaker 12: probably five to ten years, depending upon when they buy

1909
01:29:34,160 --> 01:29:37,920
Speaker 12: it during the operating system cycle. Now for heavy users

1910
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 12: like gamers, people who do video editing or something like that,

1911
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:43,400
Speaker 12: their hardware is going to age out in probably three

1912
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:46,080
Speaker 12: to five years, even less, because the demands of that

1913
01:29:46,160 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 12: work is.

1914
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,080
Speaker 11: Going up there. And if you're doing AI, you.

1915
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 12: May need a new computer every year because the demands

1916
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 12: of that field is really really growing.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: What about this whole thing with Windows ten. I know

1919
01:29:56,640 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 1: people are worried about the Windows ten security up dates

1920
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,320
Speaker 1: are ending in October. I know Microsoft said they're going

1921
01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,360
Speaker 1: to give like an extra year for that if you

1922
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 1: sign up, But what's the deal with that?

1923
01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,200
Speaker 12: So yeah, so Windows ten has been out there for

1924
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:12,920
Speaker 12: about ten years. A lot of people we're able to

1925
01:30:13,040 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 12: update their Windows seven or eight computer to Windows ten,

1926
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:20,080
Speaker 12: but the door is closing this October. They are offering

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01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 12: an option to extend it for a year, but that's

1928
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 12: just kicking the can down the street. So what we're

1929
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,680
Speaker 12: doing is we want to We're helping people understand how

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01:30:27,720 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 12: they can wipe their computers, eliminate all the data, all

1931
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,840
Speaker 12: the programs, so they can then give those computers away.

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Speaker 12: We have the laptop our project. We'd love to have them,

1933
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:40,760
Speaker 12: or they can give them to another charity, or they

1934
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Speaker 12: can take them to e waste if they're not working.

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Speaker 12: But the key thing is get your data and programs.

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Speaker 2: Off of that device.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the thing that I think a lot of

1938
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Speaker 1: people are very worried about because we have a lot

1939
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Speaker 1: of information on these computers.

1940
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Speaker 2: So what is the process?

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, if it's if you have a

1942
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Speaker 1: newer computer, it's a lot easier than the older computers.

1943
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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 12: So Windows ten and eleven have built in processes to

1945
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 12: erase and reset a computer. I mean, very quickly, go

1946
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 12: to settings, go to recovery, look for reset, and make

1947
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,160
Speaker 12: sure you delete all files and clean the drive.

1948
01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:15,800
Speaker 11: It's a very quick process to get to that point.

1949
01:31:15,840 --> 01:31:18,599
Speaker 12: It'll probably take overnight, maybe a bit longer to completely

1950
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 12: clean the computer. That's Windows ten eleven. Windows eight process

1951
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 12: is similar. I've stepped it out. You can go to

1952
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:28,000
Speaker 12: my Laptop lf project Facebook page and see the details

1953
01:31:28,040 --> 01:31:31,280
Speaker 12: on it. Newer macs also have the same thing built

1954
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Speaker 12: into them. You can either go into a system properties

1955
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:40,240
Speaker 12: and look for the option to transfer or reset a computer.

1956
01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 12: On older Max, you simply shut down the computer, hold

1957
01:31:44,120 --> 01:31:46,920
Speaker 12: down the command and higher key power it back up.

1958
01:31:47,240 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 12: Hold those key down till the Apple logo appears. Then

1959
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 12: you can get into recovery and erase your drive. Windows

1960
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 12: seven is a bit of a problem. They did not

1961
01:31:55,439 --> 01:32:00,360
Speaker 12: include a Windows tool to erase the drive. Some manufacturers did.

1962
01:32:00,840 --> 01:32:02,960
Speaker 12: But there are some free apps out there that you

1963
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:06,560
Speaker 12: can use to completely erase your drive. And one of

1964
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Speaker 12: the ones that I have seen, I have not used myself,

1965
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,240
Speaker 12: but has good reviews, is called disc whipe.

1966
01:32:12,680 --> 01:32:14,280
Speaker 11: It's from discwipe dot org.

1967
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 12: It's free, it looks like it has a great reputation,

1968
01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,320
Speaker 12: good reviews from PCMag.

1969
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Speaker 11: And other places.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so disc wipe that's a good one.

1971
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,680
Speaker 1: And then the older Max that could be a little tricky, right,

1972
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:28,360
Speaker 1: like if you're if you're not like very savvy on

1973
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Speaker 1: the computer, or do you think someone could figure out

1974
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Speaker 1: how to do that?

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Speaker 12: They can figure out how to do it. And here's

1976
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 12: the great thing about Max. No matter how long you've

1977
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:38,320
Speaker 12: had your Mac, whether you bought it, knew, or was

1978
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 12: given to you, you can call Apple support and they're

1979
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,439
Speaker 12: very excellent. Telephone support can stick you through the process

1980
01:32:44,840 --> 01:32:47,920
Speaker 12: of erasing and resetting your Mac. That's something that's not

1981
01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,679
Speaker 12: available with Windows machines unless you're paying for a premium

1982
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,360
Speaker 12: service plan.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, good to know.

1984
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,519
Speaker 1: Okay, so if you're trying to do it, they will

1985
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:58,000
Speaker 1: walk you through that process, even on an older computer

1986
01:32:58,680 --> 01:32:59,719
Speaker 1: without paying anything.

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Speaker 11: Heads.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you do this every day.

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Speaker 1: Do you run into any issues with getting these things

1990
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Speaker 1: wiped clean?

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Speaker 11: Yeah?

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Speaker 12: So there are some. So typically the machines were given.

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Speaker 12: First of all, we do not log into a machine

1994
01:33:14,200 --> 01:33:16,720
Speaker 12: that we're given. We don't want any passwords, we don't

1995
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Speaker 12: see the data. So there are some tools that we

1996
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 12: can use to boot up the machine. One of them

1997
01:33:21,800 --> 01:33:26,200
Speaker 12: that is called dban dB AN and that wipes the

1998
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,080
Speaker 12: hard drive by overriding the hard drive with random ones

1999
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Speaker 12: and zeros. Some machines are just very stubborn and they

2000
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 12: just won't boot to that. So what we can do,

2001
01:33:35,240 --> 01:33:37,200
Speaker 12: and you can do this with older machines too, simply

2002
01:33:37,240 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 12: open up the case and pull out the hard drive.

2003
01:33:39,560 --> 01:33:42,040
Speaker 12: You need some small screwdrivers. But once you've done that,

2004
01:33:42,720 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 12: what we do then is we will electronically wipe that

2005
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:50,799
Speaker 12: drive using bench software we like many tool Partition Wizard,

2006
01:33:51,439 --> 01:33:53,639
Speaker 12: or if you don't have anything like that, you've got

2007
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 12: a ballpen hammer, well there's the old ballpin hammer approach.

2008
01:33:56,680 --> 01:33:58,640
Speaker 12: Take it out, prop it against the wall, and give

2009
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:01,600
Speaker 12: it a few good whacks. Pretty much take care of

2010
01:34:01,640 --> 01:34:05,840
Speaker 12: any disk drive. Heart Desktop drives are really sturdy, so

2011
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:09,560
Speaker 12: just focus on beating up the interface in the electronics.

2012
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,479
Speaker 12: But you can always physically destroy a draw destroy a

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01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,640
Speaker 12: drive if you can't electronically wipe it.

2014
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Speaker 1: You can also if you don't feel comfortable doing that,

2015
01:34:17,160 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: and by the way, wear glasses and the protective stuff.

2016
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: But if you don't feel comfortable doing that, you can

2017
01:34:22,240 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 1: also take it to a There are recycling like e

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Speaker 1: waste facilities like you mentioned that have like disc shredders.

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Speaker 1: And I watched this process and it was it was wild,

2020
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: and this drive goes in, it comes out as just

2021
01:34:33,680 --> 01:34:36,640
Speaker 1: little tiny pieces of shredder stuff, like almost like a

2022
01:34:36,680 --> 01:34:37,400
Speaker 1: paper shredder.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, that's cool.

2024
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:42,479
Speaker 12: That's like NSA level data destruction. You know, nothing that's

2025
01:34:42,520 --> 01:34:43,679
Speaker 12: going to be poured from that drive.

2026
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,559
Speaker 1: Ever again, would you ever recommend Okay, because I know

2027
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: we and we're going to get into this where you

2028
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,920
Speaker 1: can take devices like let's say you can't boot your

2029
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 1: computer up. Let's say it's so old that you can't

2030
01:34:53,200 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: wipe the data and you're not comfortable taking the drive out.

2031
01:34:56,640 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: Would you recommend let's say you brought this to a

2032
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: recycling center, wuld you ever recommend taking taking it there

2033
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,080
Speaker 1: without wiping it or taking your data off.

2034
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,719
Speaker 12: So the thing is, unless you know the recycling center

2035
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:10,640
Speaker 12: uses a process like you described Rich, if you like,

2036
01:35:10,680 --> 01:35:12,639
Speaker 12: take it to a staple store or to a Best

2037
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:16,000
Speaker 12: Buy or to La County's had your just ways dispose

2038
01:35:16,040 --> 01:35:19,479
Speaker 12: a facility up by the up your lax, They're just

2039
01:35:19,560 --> 01:35:22,040
Speaker 12: going to throw that into a stack of devices to

2040
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:26,240
Speaker 12: be parted out or shredded for metals. So you don't

2041
01:35:26,280 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 12: really know for sure that it's going to get you

2042
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 12: know it's going to get wiped if you have critical

2043
01:35:31,439 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 12: data on their income tax forums business information. Candidly, it'd

2044
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,080
Speaker 12: be worth it to take it to a commercial shop.

2045
01:35:38,479 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 12: It's not going to cost a whole lot of money

2046
01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 12: for them to open up the case, take that hard

2047
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,240
Speaker 12: drive out, and then they can either electronically shred.

2048
01:35:45,000 --> 01:35:47,640
Speaker 11: It or physically destroy it. Yeah, but your data, your

2049
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:50,840
Speaker 11: data is too valuable to risk it going into unknown hands.

2050
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:51,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2051
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, what I'm hearing is that there are lots

2052
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,400
Speaker 1: of options for getting this done, and if you don't

2053
01:35:55,479 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 1: know how to do it, there are some places that

2054
01:35:57,400 --> 01:36:01,080
Speaker 1: can help for sure, So recite donate, Like how do

2055
01:36:01,160 --> 01:36:04,360
Speaker 1: you know you said these computers can last for you know, uh,

2056
01:36:04,880 --> 01:36:07,400
Speaker 1: up to nine years, let's say, depending on you know

2057
01:36:07,439 --> 01:36:10,400
Speaker 1: your usage. So when do you recycle or donate?

2058
01:36:11,880 --> 01:36:15,479
Speaker 12: So so, obviously the one key thing if you notice

2059
01:36:15,479 --> 01:36:19,240
Speaker 12: that your laptop has a bulging case or the seams

2060
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,800
Speaker 12: on the laptop are starting to come apart, that's the

2061
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:25,200
Speaker 12: time to take immediate action. That computer's battery is bulging

2062
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:29,080
Speaker 12: and could potentially explode or catch fire. That's an immediate

2063
01:36:29,120 --> 01:36:32,280
Speaker 12: call to take that to a either repair shop or

2064
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:36,120
Speaker 12: take it to e waste. Typically, what's going to the

2065
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 12: triggers for getting a new computer. For knowing it's time

2066
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 12: is you're no longer getting security updates. So if you've

2067
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:45,720
Speaker 12: got Windows ten, you're going to stop this October. If

2068
01:36:45,760 --> 01:36:48,719
Speaker 12: you're running a Mac, you're running Moderay, you're not getting

2069
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,200
Speaker 12: you're not getting updates anymore, and even Venturable start getting updates.

2070
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:55,760
Speaker 12: So if you stop getting security updates, that's the time

2071
01:36:55,800 --> 01:36:58,439
Speaker 12: you need to buy a new computer, and then look

2072
01:36:58,439 --> 01:37:00,360
Speaker 12: at what's the best thing to do with over if

2073
01:37:00,400 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 12: you're all going to still functional again. Laptop Elf Project

2074
01:37:04,240 --> 01:37:07,240
Speaker 12: would love to have it o their charities will take it.

2075
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 11: So there's life remaining in those computers.

2076
01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:12,240
Speaker 12: We have software we can put on to extend the

2077
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,800
Speaker 12: usable life for those donated computers for teachers and for nonprofits.

2078
01:37:16,160 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I'm guessing you're referring to the Chrome os flex,

2079
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:22,599
Speaker 1: which basically turns like any laptop into a Chrome book,

2080
01:37:22,920 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 1: which is what a lot of the schools use. So

2081
01:37:24,760 --> 01:37:27,799
Speaker 1: even if it's not powerful enough to run like Windows

2082
01:37:27,880 --> 01:37:30,760
Speaker 1: or Mac at this point, or the security updates aren't there,

2083
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:33,040
Speaker 1: it can still run that Chrome, which is based like

2084
01:37:33,160 --> 01:37:34,880
Speaker 1: a web browser based program.

2085
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:36,160
Speaker 2: Okay, so you like.

2086
01:37:36,200 --> 01:37:38,560
Speaker 1: Best Buy, you like Staples, obviously you can donate to

2087
01:37:38,640 --> 01:37:41,720
Speaker 1: Laptop Elf if you're in the LA area, there's other

2088
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:45,360
Speaker 1: There's other nonprofits too wherever you live that I'm sure

2089
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,599
Speaker 1: would take these. Tell me about some of your favorite

2090
01:37:47,600 --> 01:37:49,439
Speaker 1: tools and websites. You mentioned a couple of them, but

2091
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:50,880
Speaker 1: tell me some of the others.

2092
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,880
Speaker 12: So for our rook bench's some that we use all

2093
01:37:53,920 --> 01:37:59,280
Speaker 12: the time. One is called Crystal disc Info. It's available

2094
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 12: from Crystal dot info, and basically it gives you a

2095
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 12: computer tool where you can get the smart values off

2096
01:38:06,600 --> 01:38:08,160
Speaker 12: of the hard drive and that tells you that the

2097
01:38:08,200 --> 01:38:12,160
Speaker 12: hard drives condition green, yellow, or red, operating temperature. It

2098
01:38:12,160 --> 01:38:14,519
Speaker 12: tells you if there's too many bad sectors. So it's

2099
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 12: a very good tool to assess whether or not that

2100
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:20,040
Speaker 12: hard drive is good, is getting weak it needs to

2101
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:22,800
Speaker 12: be replaced, or is definitely critical and you could lose

2102
01:38:22,840 --> 01:38:26,120
Speaker 12: your data. So that's one favorite for everyday use. I

2103
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 12: use for Internet speed, I use speed dot cloudfare dot

2104
01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:33,519
Speaker 12: dot com. At speed dot cloudflare dot com you get

2105
01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:37,360
Speaker 12: upload and download speed, latency jitter. It's a very handy

2106
01:38:37,400 --> 01:38:42,519
Speaker 12: tool to check your internet connection. Now on my workshop machine,

2107
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:45,760
Speaker 12: I have many tool Partition Wizard and what we use

2108
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:48,240
Speaker 12: that for if there's a machine that we can't erase

2109
01:38:48,280 --> 01:38:50,720
Speaker 12: the hard drive by booting onto it, we'll pull the

2110
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 12: hard drive connected to that workshop machine and many tool

2111
01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:57,240
Speaker 12: partition Wizard will do that process of overriding ones and

2112
01:38:57,360 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 12: zeros over the entire hard drive that in from is unretrievable.

2113
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,760
Speaker 11: I mentioned d ban dB a n dot org.

2114
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,479
Speaker 12: It's a free tool if you set it up on

2115
01:39:08,600 --> 01:39:12,120
Speaker 12: a flopping on excuse me, a USB drive using a

2116
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:15,120
Speaker 12: rufous or another burner, and then you boot the d

2117
01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 12: ban and it overwrites the drive entirely. Speaking of tools,

2118
01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 12: a lot of machines that run Windows ten are not

2119
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:26,800
Speaker 12: eligible for the for the Microsoft sanctioned Windows eleven upgrade,

2120
01:39:27,000 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 12: but if you use a rufous tool and the Windows

2121
01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:32,640
Speaker 12: eleven also you can download. We've had great success and

2122
01:39:32,720 --> 01:39:37,519
Speaker 12: installing Windows eleven on many machines not otherwise eligible for

2123
01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:40,800
Speaker 12: the Windows ten upgrade. It bypasses the TPM two point

2124
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:44,840
Speaker 12: zero requirement, it bypasses the requirement for Microsoft account and

2125
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 12: it also by it also significantly loosens the requirement for

2126
01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:53,200
Speaker 12: RAM and for processors. So we've had great success in

2127
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:56,400
Speaker 12: using that tool to boost some Windows ten machines up

2128
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,200
Speaker 12: to Windows eleven.

2129
01:39:57,479 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 1: Great information, Uh, David Lombard, it is with the Laptopelfproject.

2130
01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:06,719
Speaker 1: It's Facebook dot com slash the Laptop Elf Project. David,

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01:40:06,760 --> 01:40:09,200
Speaker 1: you said you've done twenty five hundred computers. I mean,

2132
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:12,120
Speaker 1: you know you're doing this as a nonprofit. Is what

2133
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: is fun about this for you? What do you like

2134
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:14,320
Speaker 1: about all this?

2135
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:15,599
Speaker 3: Well?

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Speaker 12: I mean, of course, doctor Leo and I are tinkerers.

2137
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:20,200
Speaker 12: We love to play with technology. We've been doing it

2138
01:40:20,240 --> 01:40:22,320
Speaker 12: for I mean for me, I bought my first computer

2139
01:40:22,360 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 12: in nineteen eighty two. But the real joy comes from

2140
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,160
Speaker 12: talking to the teachers and the nonprofits. One of the

2141
01:40:29,200 --> 01:40:32,360
Speaker 12: teachers I gave a very nice Windows eleven laptop two.

2142
01:40:33,040 --> 01:40:35,439
Speaker 12: One of his students took that laptop all the way

2143
01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:37,759
Speaker 12: through Window of ten, all the way through high school

2144
01:40:37,760 --> 01:40:41,120
Speaker 12: and into college, and she would not have otherwise been

2145
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,599
Speaker 12: able to get a laptop of that quality. So, I mean,

2146
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 12: the feedback and the teachers and nonprofits is really what

2147
01:40:46,640 --> 01:40:47,640
Speaker 12: brings the joy to this.

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Speaker 1: Love it all right, We're gonna leave it there. Facebook

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Speaker 1: dot com slash the Laptop Elf Project. David Lombard, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for joining me today. Really appreciate it. Get

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Speaker 1: those computers wiped, get them cleaned up, get them donated, recycled.

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Speaker 1: You've got lots of options. I'll link up all the

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Speaker 1: things that he mentioned on my website. Richontech dot tv

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Speaker 1: coming up, we're going to open up the feedbag.

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Speaker 5: Thank you, rich Rick.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. A couple of items

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Speaker 1: to get to before we open the feedbag as promised.

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Speaker 1: First off, remember National Public Data. This was the website

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Speaker 1: that was hacked in twenty twenty four. They leaked billions

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Speaker 1: of records, including social security numbers. Well, now the site

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Speaker 1: is back under new ownership as a quote free people

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Speaker 1: search engine.

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Speaker 2: So what does that mean.

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Speaker 1: While it's got a whole bunch of information about you

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Speaker 1: in there, so you probably want to opt out of this.

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Speaker 1: So go to National Public Data search for your name,

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01:41:51,040 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 1: copy your profile URL, and you can paste it into

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Speaker 1: the website's opt out form. Now I got an email

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Speaker 1: from some of this said, hey, I tried to do

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Speaker 1: this and it's not working there. I'll be slammed because

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Speaker 1: basically every website is recommending that you remove your data

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Speaker 1: at this point, so maybe wait until things settle down

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Speaker 1: over the next week, next week or so. Surprisingly, my

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Speaker 1: information was not in there, so I was not able

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Speaker 1: to remove it, but I did find a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other people I know, so yeah, I would get that

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Speaker 1: out of there. Google Flights has a new Flight Deals.

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Speaker 1: This is an AI tool, so instead of like putting

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Speaker 1: in all your dates and filters and this and that,

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Speaker 1: you just describe your ideal trip. So for example, week

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Speaker 1: long trip this winter to a city with great food,

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Speaker 1: or ten day ski trip with fresh powder. AI understands.

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Speaker 1: It looks through all of Google's data for airlines and

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Speaker 1: booking sites and it will tell you what it thinks

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Speaker 1: would be great.

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Speaker 2: So this is in beta.

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Speaker 1: It's not available to everyone just yet, but it's at

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Speaker 1: Google dot com, slash travel, slash flights, slash deals.

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Speaker 2: I'll put the link on the website.

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Speaker 1: Not available for me just yet because it's rolling out,

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Speaker 1: so you may not have access right away. There's a

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Speaker 1: new app called Cassette. This is really neat. It's only

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Speaker 1: for iPhone, but it plays random clips from your iPhone videos,

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Speaker 1: kind of like the idea of popping a VHS tape

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Speaker 1: into the player and you don't really know what's on

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Speaker 1: that tape and so it just kind of pops up

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Speaker 1: a moment. So just install the app. It goes through

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Speaker 1: your videos on your iPhone. You press one of the

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Speaker 1: VHS tapes it shows and it brings like a little

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Speaker 1: clip from that that video. It's really cool, it's fun.

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Speaker 1: It's free. If you want to select specific clips, you

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Speaker 1: can pay eight dollars. But this is just an independent

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Speaker 1: app from an independent developer, and it's just fun.

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Speaker 2: I had a lot of fun with it.

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Speaker 1: Cassette C A S S E T T Again, I'll

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Speaker 1: put a link on the website.

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Speaker 2: And also retro camp Snap.

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Speaker 1: They make these cool cameras that have no playback on them,

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Speaker 1: no screens, kind of like a point and shoot camera.

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Speaker 1: They now have a digital video camera inspired by the

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Speaker 1: classic Super eight camera CS eight. There's no playback on it,

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Speaker 1: there's no deleting. You just shoot video and then you

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Speaker 1: can enjoy it late. It's one hundred and fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: usually two hundred shipping in mid September. You can choose

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Speaker 1: from various aspect ratios. Got five vintage inspired filters, and

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Speaker 1: it's got the trigger that you pull and you get

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Speaker 1: one clip off of that. Built in mic for audio.

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Speaker 1: It's got retro looking battery and memory meters. Comes with

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Speaker 1: a little bit of internal memory. You can expand it

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Speaker 1: with more USBC. And this is not for everyone. It's

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Speaker 1: just someone who might might have had one of these

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Speaker 1: in the past and want something that's kind of fun.

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Speaker 1: Someone that's a creator wants to do something different. But

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Speaker 1: it's all about distraction free, screen free video recording, just

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Speaker 1: like their camp snap camera, which I love because you

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Speaker 1: take it. It's almost like an old school disposable camera.

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Speaker 1: You just take pictures on it and then you plug

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Speaker 1: it into your computer and you can seal those pictures.

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Speaker 1: Then all right, time for the feedback. These are the emails,

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Speaker 1: the comments, and the questions I get from you. If

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Speaker 1: you want to submit yours, go to richon tech dot

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Speaker 1: tv hit Contact. Diane from Lapuente writes in my daughter

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Speaker 1: was crocheting a pair of Knights gauntlets for a costume

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Speaker 1: and posted her progress online. A woman reached out wanting

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Speaker 1: to buy a pair, then claimed she had accidentally sent

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Speaker 1: over five hundred dollars and needed a refund. Without checking

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Speaker 1: your bank account, my daughter followed instructions from a man

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Speaker 1: posing as PayPal support, who convinced her to send three

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Speaker 1: hundred dollars. He was trying to get the rest when

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Speaker 1: I walked in and ended the call. We later found

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Speaker 1: the money had been moved through cash app to buy bitcoin.

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Speaker 1: Her bank would not help and cash app said the

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Speaker 1: money was gone. I hope you'll share this again to

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Speaker 1: warn younger people about the scam. Thank you, Diane. That's

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Speaker 1: the thing. People think it's just old people that are scammed. No,

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Speaker 1: it's actually a lot of young people because they are

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Speaker 1: not hipped to the scams. So keep in mind it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of people getting scammed, not just old or young.

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Speaker 1: Jay writes in from Hot Springs. Microsoft Edge has a

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Speaker 1: built in scareware blocker designed to stop those fake full

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Speaker 1: screen pop ups claiming your computers infected and telling you

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Speaker 1: to call a number or download software. It uses machine

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01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 1: learning to detect these scam pages and show you a

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Speaker 1: warning it's not on by default. To enable it, open Edge,

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Speaker 1: go to Settings, Privacy, Search and Services, then toggle on

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Speaker 1: enable AI to block malware. What a cool feature. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have to be using Edge, but turn that on

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Speaker 1: for sure. Jony and Carmel, I appreciate your recommendation for

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Speaker 1: the robo rock rechargeable wet dry vacuum cleaner. For almost

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Speaker 1: a year, I looked at similar floor cleaners and read

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Speaker 1: all the reviews but didn't make the leap. But on

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Speaker 1: Prime Day about the one. You recommend it and we

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Speaker 1: love it. We have hardwood floors and a hairy white

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Speaker 1: golden retriever. I don't think my floors have ever been cleaner.

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Speaker 1: It's so easy to use. Thanks for making life a

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Speaker 1: little easier. I love that robo rock. It is a

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Speaker 1: fantastic device. Kathy writes in I listen to your podcast

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Speaker 1: every time I get in my car, sometimes more than once,

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Speaker 1: because they're so full of information. I'm a seven year

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Speaker 1: old woman who's always loved technology. I even had one

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Speaker 1: of the first iPads before most people heard of them.

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Speaker 1: I may not grasp as much as I used to,

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Speaker 1: but I'll keep learning as long as I can. I

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Speaker 1: just love your podcast and how you make tech easy

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Speaker 1: to understand. Kathy, you get the award for making my day.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: You can find links everything I mentioned on the website.

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Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot tv next week we'll talk all

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Speaker 1: things Google pixel. Thank you so much for listening. My

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Speaker 1: name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you real soon.