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Speaker 1: Hello, what's up man? How you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm great? How are you? This is crazy.

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Speaker 1: We've never spoken before?

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Speaker 2: Have we?

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Speaker 1: Have we ever talked?

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Speaker 2: No, we have not.

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Speaker 1: What's your name?

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Speaker 3: My name is Pete, Pete.

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Speaker 1: How am I I'm doing? I'm actually doing really well

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Speaker 1: right now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed that like life is, at least for me,

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Speaker 1: very cyclical.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll have periods of time in which I'll

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Speaker 1: be like really just going insane, but uh, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: Over the past week, I've been feeling very stable. I've

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Speaker 1: made a few changes that have been helpful. I've been

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Speaker 1: embracing the life that I'm already living instead of fantasizing

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Speaker 1: about some other version of myself that exists. I've been

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Speaker 1: not binge, eating fucking Ben and Jerry's every day. I've

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Speaker 1: been uh, you know, I've been not going on. Uh,

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Speaker 1: I've been watching less porn.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been Yeah. Yeah, things are good right now.

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Speaker 1: I've experienced this before, though, and I've made the mistake

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Speaker 1: of being like, well, great, Everything's gonna be amazing forever.

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Speaker 1: But also, you know, I've been downtrodden before, and I've

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Speaker 1: made I've thought I was going to I just thought

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Speaker 1: I was gonna die, so I am trying. I think,

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Speaker 1: I think, uh, you know the caller I've done whatever

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Speaker 1: podcast to Go who said that life is kind of

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Speaker 1: like a spiral, and you start in the middle and

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Speaker 1: you spiral outwards like that was one of the most

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Speaker 1: genius things I've ever heard, because it makes sense because

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Speaker 1: I'm repeating. I see myself lifetime repeating cycles. I'm almost

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Speaker 1: twenty eight, and I can look back at my life

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Speaker 1: and I could see a lot of cycles and like

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Speaker 1: read journals from when I was younger, and they repeat.

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Speaker 1: But with every repetition of the cycle, I get a

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Speaker 1: little bit of progress outward, even though I'm still in

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Speaker 1: the cycle. You know what I mean. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: learn a lesson once and for all. In anything that

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Speaker 1: I do. There's so many lessons I have to learn

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Speaker 1: over and fucking over again, Like weed is one of them.

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Speaker 1: Like last night, what's you Pete. I've done this, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I've done this a hundred times, more than one hundred times, Pete,

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Speaker 1: and I never learned. I go, oh, oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have this thing to edit. This is like a

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Speaker 1: low effort task. I know. Let me get stoned before

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Speaker 2: Literally the story of my life the past two weeks through.

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Speaker 1: And then and then I get stoned, and then I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: I can't do anything. And then the next day I go,

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Speaker 1: this task seems easy. I bet if I got stoned,

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Speaker 1: it would be different this time, Pete, It's never different.

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Speaker 1: It's the same every time. No, it's never different.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why I don't. I don't know why

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Speaker 1: I don't learn my lessons. I don't. I learn them

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Speaker 1: a little bit, I think, but I just feel like

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I learned my lessons yet through

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Speaker 1: But I still I don't I'm not like I thought

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Speaker 1: Do you do you learn your lessons?

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Speaker 2: You know, I tried to. I tried to you, but

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Speaker 2: I think I'm in the same boat as you because

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Speaker 2: I just I always feel like I can, like I

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Speaker 2: if I'm gonna, I'm gonna smoke before I do this,

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Speaker 2: and then I just doesn't and then I keep on

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Pete, Pete, is there a Is there

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Speaker 1: something specific you called in to want to talk about today?

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Speaker 2: You know it is not really mm hmm. I just

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Speaker 1: What's your life like, Pete? What do you do every day?

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Speaker 2: What do I do? I'm I'm work as a janitor

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Speaker 2: at a high school.

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Speaker 1: Oh interesting, yeah, and that's yeah, how long you've been

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Speaker 2: I've been doing that for like a year and a half.

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Speaker 1: Now are you do you clean it during the day

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Speaker 1: when the kids are there, or like at night?

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Speaker 2: So it's like right after school, okay, the kids are gone, yeah, all.

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Speaker 1: Right, but there are probably there's some kids running around

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Speaker 1: doing after school activities like playing school and just random stuff.

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Speaker 1: Do they ever interact with you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Sometimes, because you know, I I just got out

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Speaker 1: Interesting kinds people talk to me. So you're yes, you probably, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I do, Okay, it's interesting. And are you like friends

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Speaker 2: You know? Not really? I just some of them random

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Speaker 1: What do you do while you're cleaning the school? Do

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Speaker 1: you listen to anything? Do you put on music?

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Speaker 2: I listen to your podcast every day. Hell yeah, and

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Speaker 2: I listened to music and I also I've also been

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Speaker 1: So you've been in this for a year. Yes, What

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Speaker 2: I have an internship right now. It's for what I

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Speaker 2: want to do. Basically, it's my main career, like setting

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Speaker 2: a live sound. It's live audio stuff. Oh, I love

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Speaker 2: live sounds, live music. I went to there's a separate

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Speaker 1: So this is like doing audio for live events and shit.

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Speaker 1: That's sick. That's really cool. Oh oh yeah, I love

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Speaker 1: that for you, that's great. You can travel with that,

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Speaker 1: I'm always thinking about and I'm not a authority on

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Speaker 1: You would think that like Zuckerberg won by now successfully

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: So that's cool.

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Speaker 2: I like that.

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Speaker 1: That's a good industry. Do you play music?

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Speaker 2: I do somewhat. I play the guitar and I to

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Speaker 1: You guys ever gig.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we we tried to plan this house show once

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Speaker 1: So yeah, well why did it fall through?

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Speaker 2: I have I don't even know, so we there's these

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Speaker 1: Wait, why do you need Who are these girls? Why

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Speaker 2: Because it's just like we were. If I don't know, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Why don't know, why why did you need these girls

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Speaker 1: What do they do?

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Speaker 2: They're just they sing and they're really good, and they

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Speaker 2: I guess we wanted more people than just us to

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Speaker 1: Okay, you can probably find more people that aren't you

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Speaker 2: That's true. I do have a lot of friends that

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Speaker 2: play instruments.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, put on the house show. That sounds awesome.

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Speaker 2: You know I should. This feels crazy, Brom, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 2: I'm just like nerding out right now. This is kind

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Speaker 1: I'm nerding out.

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Speaker 2: I never thought I never I never thought I'd be

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Speaker 1: I love the like d a y house show ship.

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Speaker 1: I think that's so cool. You should do it.

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Speaker 2: I will definitely try.

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Speaker 1: Let me know how it goes. Yeah, don't don't delay

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Speaker 1: it because the other people in the group chat aren't responding.

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Speaker 1: So what are you Mormon?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my my my old plug for what Weed is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom for sure, but not my dad.

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Speaker 1: crazy as people.

444
00:26:27,280 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

445
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes it is, sometimes it's not.

446
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:32,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a rare cases. There's some cases that definitely

447
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 2: I bet there's some crazy parents.

448
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: Hmmm. Okay, Pete, cool, Okay, it was good. I'm glad

449
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: I got to hear about your life today. So I

450
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 1: don't know why I enjoyed hearing about your life.

451
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 2: You.

452
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm like something about something about the Maybe I'm being

453
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,600
Speaker 1: Maybe it's just because I'm in a good mood right now,

454
00:26:55,920 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: I'm on stimulants. Well, that makes you feel It makes

455
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:05,280
Speaker 1: me feel good that you have a good life. I'm like,

456
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 1: all right, great, someone, there's a guy who just graduated

457
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 1: high school in Utah. He's gonna have a good life

458
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 1: doing audio engineering stuff that's not gonna get taken away

459
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: by AI. Probably his parents are nice. His dad's gonna

460
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 1: help me out with school. He's not gonna have to

461
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: go into debt. That's pretty good.

462
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: Yeah. Wow, you're making me like look back and be like, wow,

463
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 2: I do have a great life.

464
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's gonna put on this di y show

465
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: with his friends. That's gonna be sick. That's good. Look.

466
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,720
Speaker 1: Whether it's up to you, whether or not you want,

467
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: you want to enjoy your life, but I'm kind of

468
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: enjoying it vicariously through you right now.

469
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 2: Just feels awesome. This is awesome, This is good.

470
00:27:54,720 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: Yeah mm hmm. Yeah, you're a janitor, that's but that's hard.

471
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 1: But it's not forever.

472
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, mm hmm.

473
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 1: Okay, well, uh, this this was this was productive.

474
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 2: I feel I feel like it was too.

475
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: Do you have anything else you want to say or

476
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 1: or anything at all before we go?

477
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 2: Not really, just like I love this is like I

478
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: listened to like I think I've listened to like eighty

479
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 2: percent of your episode. Fuck.

480
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you very much for doing that. Yeah, I'm

481
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: trying to do that. Yeah, I'm trying to do that

482
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: more with my own life. I'm like, oh shit, I

483
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: host this podcast is pretty cool. So you know, if

484
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna go, but dm me, if you did

485
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 1: the show, I want to see if you did it. It

486
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: would make me. Yeah, it would be stoked if you like, yeah,

487
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: if you do the show, like DM me a picture

488
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: and be like, I fucking did the show. I don't know,

489
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm not going to promise i'll respond to it,

490
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: but but if I do, I'd be like, all right,

491
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: that's sick. I'll be happy to know.

492
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 2: That you did it. Okay, yeah, for sure, will.

493
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: Beautiful, awesome, good luck, Pete. I'll see you around the universe.

494
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 2: Thank you. Have a good day you too. Yeah.

495
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:36,880
Speaker 1: I like that guy, Pete. He's got a good he's

496
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 1: got a good life.

497
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. Yeah.

498
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:50,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes on the show we talked to depressed people. Sometimes

499
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 1: we talk to people. I don't think Pete seemed depressed necessarily.

500
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: He seems he's gonna get was doing well, that's good. Yeah,

501
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:10,240
Speaker 1: sometimes so I think I think it's good. I think

502
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: it's good to be able to you like that's why

503
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: you get to like look at a bunch of different

504
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 1: lives and go like, yeah, you know that life seems that.

505
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: One of the notes I get on the show a

506
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: lot is people are like, I love listening to this

507
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,719
Speaker 1: because it makes me because people are because it makes

508
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: me feel better about my own life. They're like, oh man,

509
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: people are people's problems horrid. There's something good in that.

510
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: I think it gives you some perspective on your own life.

511
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 1: But then I don't know it's good to be like,

512
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: oh hey, someone else is a good life. That's good.

513
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: That makes me feel good. It's you know, there's lots

514
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:54,560
Speaker 1: of crazy shit going on in the world anyway, all right, anyway, whatever,

515
00:30:55,160 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: who cares cares about anything? What's up?

516
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: Man?

517
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: What's your name?

518
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 2: Uh?

519
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Just to sign me a name?

520
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: I don't all right, I'm gonna call you. I'll call you, Devon.

521
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: This is weird as fuck, dude, I've been listening to you.

522
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 3: I'm nervous.

523
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: Fuck don'pe be nervous. We're Uh, this is a I

524
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,000
Speaker 1: think this is a safe space. I hope it is

525
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: yees for Devon? Yeah, where are you right now? What

526
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 1: are you doing?

527
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 3: I'm chilling in my apartment. I live in Montreal. It's

528
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 3: kind of weird. I don't know French, so like trying

529
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 3: to figure my shit out kind of like, Okay, I

530
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: feel like I should learn French, but I'm loki bad

531
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 3: at fuck at school. So like.

532
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 1: Do they speak a lot of French in Montreal?

533
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, like Canada isn't French, but like Montreal French.

534
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 1: But like but like like everyone there also yeah everyone

535
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: there also English?

536
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: Right yeah, but like well nine, but I low key

537
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 3: like I don't know, like this is the wrong I

538
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 3: low key like feel like a colonizer, like I low

539
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: you feel bad.

540
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean they're like, yeah, go ahead.

541
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 3: Like French people like get pissed like low key when

542
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 3: you're like you're like I don't really no French, they

543
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: just kind of look at you like fuck you.

544
00:32:23,800 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: You know, where'd you grow up?

545
00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Uh? New Brunswick.

546
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: In in New Jersey.

547
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, New Brunswick, Canada.

548
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm an idiot. How far was that from Montreal?

549
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Like like seven hours like that?

550
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: Okay, wait, who colonized too with the French because Frances.

551
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,200
Speaker 3: Like no, no, no, no, like power and all that stuff,

552
00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 3: like well, there was like a war that happened. I

553
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 3: don't really know many too too many details because they

554
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 3: really teach me that in school because like but like

555
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just like a super big stigma.

556
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 3: It's like if you don't know French, they're like kind

557
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 3: of pissed. Well they're like they're like you know, like

558
00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,200
Speaker 3: they have like like we're not in like France, but

559
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 3: they still get like the French rudeness type shit. So like,

560
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,000
Speaker 3: m you'll meet someone and then like I met some

561
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 3: like old dude and he was talking to me and

562
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 3: I was like I was like I don't really know

563
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:28,880
Speaker 3: French and he was like he's like, oh, like what

564
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 3: the fuck? And you like he's like he was like sixty,

565
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 3: but he's like rolling his eyes at me and shit,

566
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: and he like walked off.

567
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: It was weird, like.

568
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 3: I feel and like it's low key respectful, like I

569
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: should probably learn French. I'm gonna because they like want

570
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 3: to keep their language and shit.

571
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: But hmm, yeah, I've never been to Montreal. I want

572
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: to go sometime though.

573
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 3: It's pretty close. You're in New York, right, yeah, yeah,

574
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 3: I think it's like seven or eight hours, like by car.

575
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: Why'd you move there?

576
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 3: I moved here with my ex and because they liked

577
00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 3: to go to Montreal, so we went to Montreal like

578
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 3: a few weeks after we met, and then they were like,

579
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 3: let's move to Montreal. And then we moved to Montreal

580
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: and then we broke up. So now I'm like, what

581
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:18,959
Speaker 3: the fuck?

582
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: When did you guys break up?

583
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 3: Officially it was like three months ago, but like we

584
00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 3: stopped talking like.

585
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: Three weeks ago, and you moved specifically to Montreal to

586
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: be with this lady and now she's gone now.

587
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 3: There and we were in New Brunswick together and they

588
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:45,440
Speaker 3: liked Montreal, and then our homies moved to Montreal as well,

589
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 3: like a year before us, and she was like, let's

590
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: move to Montreal. And I was like, I mean, they

591
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 3: ain't shooting New Runswick, so I was like, all right.

592
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 3: So now I'm like I just turned twenty. So I'm

593
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 3: just like here and I'm like, what the like I

594
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 3: had her and just like that was like my structure,

595
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 3: you feel me, even though it was like now I'm

596
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: just working my Like I have a job that's like

597
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 3: a little over a minimum wage. I'm just like working

598
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,200
Speaker 3: that and I'm like, what the fuck do I do now?

599
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 3: Dog Like.

600
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I got a Yeah we can. Yeah, let's

601
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: talk this out.

602
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Well.

603
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about New Brunswick, but I I

604
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 1: personally believe that, especially if you're young and you're trying

605
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 1: to like, you know, get a fucking life going, you

606
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 1: should live in like a city city. And I assume

607
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about New Brunswick, but like Montreal

608
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: is a more of a city.

609
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 3: City than fifteen thousand. Montreal's like I think like two

610
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 3: mil something like that population.

611
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and everyone wants different things out of their life.

612
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of like a city guy. But I

613
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: think it's good that you are, like in a big city. Yeah, yeah,

614
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,360
Speaker 1: do you like do you like big cities?

615
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 3: I mean, like I like like being in the country.

616
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 3: Like it's just like like I.

617
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 2: Like to be alone.

618
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 3: So I'm low key sick by the way, Like if

619
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:14,240
Speaker 3: I'm sniffling and shit, I'll try not to cougher anything.

620
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 3: But I mean, I like the city, but I also

621
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 3: like the country. But the country kind of makes me

622
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 3: go crazy because I lived in the country in my

623
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: whole life. Yeah, Like I lived in like a towne

624
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 3: of like five thousand. Then I moved to the town

625
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 3: of like fifty thousand, met her there, and then we

626
00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 3: moved to Montreal. So like, I feel I like a

627
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 3: city more.

628
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 1: Do you have friends in Montreal?

629
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 3: I got some homies that like, so I knew like

630
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: multiple people that she went to high school with because

631
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: I'm younger than her. And then they moved to Montreal

632
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 3: and then like we all just like became homies. So

633
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 3: I got like two or three homies.

634
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: Okay, cool, And you're just working your un a white

635
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 1: job is your middle way job? Is Like does it

636
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 1: have any kind of upward mobility in it?

637
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 3: I mean, like a little bit like you can get

638
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,320
Speaker 3: some better pay, Like you can get some better position.

639
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 3: Like it's it's a little bit over minimum wage, Like

640
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,879
Speaker 3: I'm making like eighteen an hour by okay, minimum wage

641
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 3: in Canada is like way higher. It's like fifteen here.

642
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:33,040
Speaker 1: These are in Canadian dollars. Yeah, yeah, okay, Yeah that's rough. Yeah, okay,

643
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 1: So do you have like a all right, so you

644
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: have some homies, but you're sitting around You're like, what

645
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: the fuck do I do?

646
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 3: Yeah?

647
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, like you what do you mean by that?

648
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 3: Well, it's like I didn't really need like I can

649
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 3: just like go around do whatever, like hang out with

650
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,920
Speaker 3: some people. Like she has hell friends, so like if

651
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 3: I don't get something to do somenight, like they'll be

652
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 3: some function, I'll just like go to that with her.

653
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,840
Speaker 3: And then like I.

654
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: Had, like wait, so you still talk like.

655
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I had like a bunch of like

656
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: vague friends with her, and I would go out and

657
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 3: do shit with them. Yeah, and then now that that's over,

658
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: it's weird for me to still talk to them. So

659
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 3: like we're no contact. I'm no contact with all of

660
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: those people.

661
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

662
00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 3: So now I have like in my homies here are

663
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,600
Speaker 3: like they got me the job, so they're like my

664
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 3: boss too.

665
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, I get you.

666
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 3: I don't want to be with them all the time,

667
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: you know.

668
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I get you. All right. Yeah, there's a lot,

669
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot to talk about. Can I is it?

670
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: Can I ask you. What can I bring up the

671
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: thing that you texted me?

672
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

673
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, okay you told me that you said you

674
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: texted me you said, well, you said a few things.

675
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,200
Speaker 1: One thing is you said, I can't stop buying porn

676
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: of my eggs.

677
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, it's fucked.

678
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,320
Speaker 1: So does she have an only fans?

679
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

680
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay.

681
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: Did she have it like when you were together?

682
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? She had it for like I mean she's been

683
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:13,439
Speaker 3: doing it for like seven years now, like or maybe

684
00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 3: not that, like since it's been a thing, Like it's

685
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: been a long time. She's like twenty four. She's been

686
00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,360
Speaker 3: doing it since she was like eighteen, so she was

687
00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:27,399
Speaker 3: like pretty popular. That's how we moved to Montreal. And yeah,

688
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: she was doing it long before she met me.

689
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 1: But and then you guys broke up, and now she

690
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: and now you're like addicted to like buying shit from

691
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: her only fans.

692
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 3: I mean, like, like I'm a young guy, you feel

693
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 3: me so like.

694
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: It's a shame. I'm just like it's a shame. I

695
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: like we could talk about this very like matter of fact.

696
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 3: It's like fuck, Like like I'm trying to do my thing,

697
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: but it's like I'm not attracted to anyone else. Yeah,

698
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: it's like I just need to feel something like I

699
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 3: were no contact, Like I don't think her voicemail set up,

700
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 3: so I like bought it. I just got to like

701
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 3: see us together. It was super fucked no what like

702
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 3: on that ship.

703
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:16,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, this is s Yeah you're in a yeah,

704
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: you're in like this crazy, potently addictive thing because like

705
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: on like because everyone it's like a common thing, right

706
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: of like you break up with someone and you like

707
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 1: stalk their social media and yeah, it's so it's funny

708
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: because like that is like a new phenomenon for the

709
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: brain relatively, because you used to be able to just

710
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 1: go no contact with someone and not see them, but

711
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 1: now you have access to like everything they're doing with

712
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: their life. And then now you like on top of

713
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: that is this crazy thing where like you know your

714
00:40:56,560 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: ex is like uh, you know she has an OnlyFans

715
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:05,200
Speaker 1: and so now you can like you know, like purchase

716
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: some form of like sexual intimacy with her. It's a

717
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 1: crazy Yeah, it's a it's a crazy uh thing that

718
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:20,479
Speaker 1: you're like yours going on with the brain right now.

719
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: Like I was like trying to do my thing one

720
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 3: night because I was like I just had like pent

721
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 3: up energy, you know what I'm saying, and like it

722
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 3: just like was not working. So I like I set

723
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: up like a burner email, like it was like a

724
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 3: twenty minute thing like to put my card and so in.

725
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 3: It was like a whole thing.

726
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a rule of thumb. I mean I've

727
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 1: broken this rule of thumb multiple times, but I have

728
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,759
Speaker 1: I haven't. I have a rule of thumb, which is

729
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: never ever enter your credit card information into a website

730
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 1: with one hand while your penis is in the other hand. Yes, real,

731
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: Yeah was I've that rule, But there's are rules to

732
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: live by. So yeah, So it sounds like you were

733
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:11,919
Speaker 1: like palpitably physically attracted to this woman in a way

734
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,600
Speaker 1: that you're not finding yourself attracted to other women.

735
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah.

736
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, and you guys just broke up.

737
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: I mean, well, like fucking I think it was like

738
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,920
Speaker 3: back in August or some shit, but sorry, we were

739
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 3: like still talking, like she was I moved in with

740
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,879
Speaker 3: a roommate and then she was like still coming over

741
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 3: and shait because my roommate was on like a vacation,

742
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 3: so I was alone and she was like, oh, like

743
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:47,759
Speaker 3: I'm leading you on. This is fucked up, this is

744
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: fucked up. And it went on and on, and it

745
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 3: was like it's like I don't really think it's like

746
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,400
Speaker 3: that fucked up, Like I don't like people were like

747
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Loki telling her, like some people were saying like because

748
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,719
Speaker 3: we get like homies and they were like and she

749
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: like even told me like face to face. She was like, yeah,

750
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,479
Speaker 3: I made the wrong decision, but I'm like into deep.

751
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm not following she made the wrong decision

752
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: moving to Monch, like.

753
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 3: She was like, I feel like I probably shouldn't have

754
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,839
Speaker 3: broken up with you, or like I don't know if

755
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: I should have. She was like I'm in too deep now,

756
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 3: and like she's very like in her ways, like if

757
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 3: she's going to do something, she's going to do it.

758
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

759
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: Like we were just talking how we like Montreal, and

760
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: she was like we'removing okay, but like yeah.

761
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 1: Okay, And so when she decided to break up with you,

762
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: like she's doing it, she's.

763
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 3: Not yeah yeah yeah. Like I was going to use

764
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: her car and drop shit back off in New Brunswick.

765
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 3: I had like all my shit in her car at

766
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: her house and I was going to go that morning

767
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 3: like to do like the six seven hour drive and

768
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 3: then the night before, like I fall asleep like at

769
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: like six or seven because I worked that morning. Yeah,

770
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 3: and then I wake up at like ten, and everything

771
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,240
Speaker 3: at own was like in the lobby of my building

772
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,879
Speaker 3: for like four hours, like anyone could have just gone

773
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 3: through my ship. She's like, your ship's in your your lobby.

774
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 3: We have to go no contact. And that was like

775
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 3: three four weeks ago, and like since then, I've just

776
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 3: been like going crazy low key on my own.

777
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure you have.

778
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: Yeah.

779
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: She sounds like she's uh like a little she sounds

780
00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: like she's much better than you are at like emotional

781
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: detachment and moving on and like doing her ship. And

782
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: that's really that's really painful. It's like extremely painful when

783
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,359
Speaker 1: like you you're going through it and she's not, and

784
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: you're like, well then what the fuck? Like I understand,

785
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:51,760
Speaker 1: like I feel your pain on that, but uh, there's

786
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:55,839
Speaker 1: a lot there's so and then yeah, now like doing

787
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: this thing where like you like can't get her out

788
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,280
Speaker 1: of your mind like sexually, and that's making it really

789
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 1: fucking hard to move on or like you know, like

790
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: you're like whatever, like like you know, looking at her

791
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: while you masturbate or like thinking about her while you

792
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: masterbad shit like that, like that makes it harder to

793
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:19,840
Speaker 1: move on. But good news, what's your name again, Devin?

794
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: I gave you a name. Good news for you, Devin,

795
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 1: Good news for you. A concept known as neuroplasticity. I'm

796
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: not going to pretend like I'm studied anything, but things

797
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:40,320
Speaker 1: that uh, you're like potently addicted to her, like that

798
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 1: become habit. Like the wrong with possibility exists. There exists

799
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: a universe where you're no longer thinking about your ex

800
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: while masturbating or buying photos of her, and shit, yeah

801
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: I hope, yeah there will there. Yeah, don't worry, you'll

802
00:45:57,280 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: you know, there's hope for you, my friend. So you

803
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,399
Speaker 1: work a minute, you work a job, and you live

804
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:15,799
Speaker 1: in Montreal, and you sound like and you're twenty, so

805
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: you're like you're still kind of like developing your like existence.

806
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 2: You know.

807
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I got a fund, like what I want

808
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 3: to do, Like I don't know like what I want

809
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 3: to do in my life. I'm kind of just here, like.

810
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: U huh, because yeah, you want to eventually find someone

811
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: that you are attracted to it's not your ex and

812
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: you you will eventually, but I think the process of

813
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: getting there has to be a very indirect process that

814
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 1: involves reaching some form of self actualization or some form

815
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:18,839
Speaker 1: of satisfaction with your own life. And where you are

816
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: right yeah, and where you are right now? Uh is

817
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: is like you can't yeah, you can't do that from

818
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: where you are right now, you know. So you got

819
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: to get out of that ship.

820
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I'm trying to go outside, like like

821
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 3: to that rave, Like that's low key awkward to go alone.

822
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:46,839
Speaker 1: Like so stop, okay, so you yeah, you take it, Like, so, yeah,

823
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: you texted me, you texted me the porn thing, but

824
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:54,760
Speaker 1: you also texted me rave exclamation point in all caps, tonight,

825
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: do I go alone? Okay, let's talk about that. Tell me,

826
00:47:58,200 --> 00:47:59,839
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I interrupted you, but I wanted to give

827
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 1: some context. Tell me what are you? What are you

828
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:02,719
Speaker 1: gonna say?

829
00:48:03,239 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 3: Well, like, fuck, this sounds insane, like I sound super creepy.

830
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 3: So like just like through mutuals, like I I had

831
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 3: heard of a person before in the past that she knew,

832
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 3: but I didn't like put any thought to it, any

833
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 3: any thought into it. And then anyway, just like someone

834
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 3: you hear through passing, like, oh, I was talking to

835
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 3: this person. I was like, I need to just get

836
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 3: outside of my house and like go to a store.

837
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: So I was like I was like fucking like four

838
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 3: or five blocks away from my house, and I saw

839
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 3: this chick like staring at me, and I was like,

840
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 3: damn this, she's like that as fuck. And then like

841
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 3: we passed each other and it was super awkward. And

842
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 3: then I went to a store. She went to a store.

843
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 3: Then I passed her again and like we both like

844
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 3: kind of locked up, like we wanted to say something

845
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 3: to each other, and I was like, I swear like

846
00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 3: I recognize her from somewhere. And then like I went

847
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: home and I was just like going through my Instagram

848
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 3: and dead out, like I found her account because like

849
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 3: through her story she had posted like I didn't think

850
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: it was her, but I saw like her wearing the

851
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 3: same outfit. It's like, well, this already is like insane,

852
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:13,520
Speaker 3: Like what are the chances I would know?

853
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,800
Speaker 1: You know, how did you find this girl's Instagram account?

854
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: Was that even knowing I know?

855
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 4: It was crazy?

856
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 2: No?

857
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 1: No, how did you find it without even knowing?

858
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: Oh?

859
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:21,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, go ahead.

860
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: We have like five or six different mutuals. So I

861
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:26,759
Speaker 3: was just like I went home and I was just

862
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,280
Speaker 3: on Instagram, just going through like random profiles and stories,

863
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 3: and I saw this chick who was wearing like a

864
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: super identifial identifiable hootie that the chick that I saw

865
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 3: that day was wearing. And then I was just like

866
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 3: going through random stories and I saw this rave. So

867
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: I was like, I guess I'll just buy a ticket

868
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 3: try to go outside. Like like the the account that

869
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 3: posted the rave, like five or six people that like

870
00:49:48,840 --> 00:49:51,799
Speaker 3: I vaguely know like follow it. So I was like,

871
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 3: maybe I should just go to.

872
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:55,880
Speaker 1: This Are you are you going to this rave to

873
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:57,240
Speaker 1: try to meet this lady?

874
00:49:58,320 --> 00:49:58,720
Speaker 4: No?

875
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 1: No, Well I'm curious, how does how does how does

876
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:07,040
Speaker 1: how does the rave connect to this lady? Because it

877
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 1: sounds like you brought it up this lady for a reason.

878
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,960
Speaker 3: Well, because she initially how did it posted? I had it?

879
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 3: She had it posted on her story like a month ago,

880
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 3: like leading up to it.

881
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: Oh, okay, you found out about it. Yeah, let's how

882
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: you found out about it.

883
00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,560
Speaker 3: It was just like super weird, Like I randomly saw

884
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:27,799
Speaker 3: this chick and I was like, I feel like I've

885
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 3: seen you in like like in my head, I was like,

886
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,360
Speaker 3: I feel like I've seen her been added or like

887
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 3: mentioned in post before. So I went onto my Instagram

888
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,160
Speaker 3: and it was like it was her, which already sounds

889
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:44,080
Speaker 3: creepy and random as fuck, but it was just like

890
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 3: a random, like chance thing.

891
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

892
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 3: Okay, but way, I just saw this brave. Should I

893
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 3: go to this ship? But like now I'm like, fuck,

894
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:54,720
Speaker 3: I shouldn't go alone to that? That's kind of weird.

895
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:57,000
Speaker 1: No, I well, I have I have I have multiple

896
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: I have multiple thoughts about this. Uh No, I well

897
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: I definitely I definitely think you should go alone to

898
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: the rave. Yeah, yeah, of course, Yeah, why do you

899
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: think you shouldn't?

900
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 3: That's not weird, Like no, it's not weird, like standing

901
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:19,320
Speaker 3: like standing there alone?

902
00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 1: Uh you can you can talk to people. It's a rave.

903
00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah yeah.

904
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: Because here's because well, because well there's a here's a

905
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 1: bunch of things. I'm gonna tell you a bunch of things,

906
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 1: the like like the whole the whole like sex brain

907
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: combined with the internet thing and like the what like

908
00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: the the ways it's throwing you around. I've been there,

909
00:51:56,520 --> 00:52:02,319
Speaker 1: A lot of people have been there, and I and

910
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: I've been like been there, like through multiple cycles in

911
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: my life, and the cycles in my life that i've

912
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: my brain has been there, Uh, I were not particularly productive.

913
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 1: And the cycles of my life where my brain was

914
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 1: not there are those cycles where I was actually creating

915
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: a version of my life and a version of myself

916
00:52:35,080 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: where I didn't even have to be there. Do you

917
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Do you get what I'm saying?

918
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of kind of okay.

919
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:54,680
Speaker 1: Okay, And and so what you sound like you kind

920
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: of need is like a bit of a win in

921
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 1: terms of No, I'm not saying you got to go

922
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 1: to this rave and get laid or whatever, but I

923
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: do think it would be helpful for you to bare

924
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,399
Speaker 1: minimum have a little reminder to your sometimes if that's

925
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: what you need, is like a little reminder to yourself

926
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: that you exist and you have social competence. And you're

927
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: not gonna get that reminder by staying in your house,

928
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: and you're not gonna get that reminder by looking somebody

929
00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 1: up on Instagram, and you're not gonna get that reminder

930
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 1: by buying photos of your X on Instagram. You're really

931
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: only going to get that reminder by like challenging yourself

932
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,000
Speaker 1: to do something kind of uncomfortable and then doing it,

933
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: and then you just prove to yourself, Oh hey, I

934
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:52,640
Speaker 1: actually if I forgot I knew how to bro, you

935
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: can spend have done this, dude. You can spend dude.

936
00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: You can spend two weeks in your house fucking gooning

937
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: and then uh here and then go outside and be

938
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,439
Speaker 1: and then talk to someone and be like, oh shit,

939
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: I forgot that. I'm like an actual human being and

940
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 1: I know how to talk to people. I know it exists.

941
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been like drawing, like in random parks, just

942
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 3: like to like just like be outside, like not in

943
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 3: my room.

944
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: So this rave to me, I please, like don't go

945
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: to the rave being like I'm gonna meet this girl,

946
00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get laid, but but like go into it.

947
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: I'm not weird like that, Like I.

948
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,360
Speaker 1: Don't think you are. I don't think you are, but

949
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: I just like just go into it, being like, here's

950
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity for me to remind myself that I know

951
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: how to connect with other people, and I know how

952
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 1: to connect with the world around me at large, and

953
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: I don't have to like be in my room alone

954
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 1: doing whatever thing I'm ashamed of myself for doing you know, yeah, yeah,

955
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 1: does that make sense?

956
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:52,879
Speaker 3: Yeah?

957
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, So you know go and but and if you go,

958
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 1: and if you try to if you go, when you

959
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:00,400
Speaker 1: try to talk to people and you get like ejected

960
00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,319
Speaker 1: or feels weird, and you have a little impulse within

961
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 1: you that's telling you like, why am I alone? I'm weird?

962
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,279
Speaker 1: This is weird. I'm like, I'm like I.

963
00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:13,200
Speaker 3: Just kind of like to see people that I know,

964
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, Like, Okay, people that were

965
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 3: friends with my ex like follow the account that's been

966
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 3: posting about it, so okay, and they've been like liking

967
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,520
Speaker 3: the post, and it's like, oh, like I really don't

968
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 3: want to see these people.

969
00:55:25,600 --> 00:55:26,879
Speaker 1: Okay, then you don't have to go to that rate.

970
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: But like like you have some instinct within you that

971
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: wants to like be out, you know, yeah.

972
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 2: So.

973
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 1: Do that follow go wherever that instinct tells you to go.

974
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: And again, if you're out and you're talking to people

975
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: and you like feel a little rebuffed, and you have

976
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:49,960
Speaker 1: this thing and your brain that's telling you, like, I

977
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: feel weird being here alone. I don't. I feel like

978
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:58,839
Speaker 1: like I feel deeply uncomfortable, like like try as hard

979
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 1: as you possibly can to push past that because only

980
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,920
Speaker 1: I just I really believe and it's I'm telling you

981
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: it's it's so much easier said than done. But on

982
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: the other side of that, I really believe that on

983
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: the other side of that is some win for you,

984
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:22,680
Speaker 1: some evening for you, something happening for you that you

985
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: just you go home being like, Okay, I remember, like

986
00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: who I am when I'm not like addicted to ah,

987
00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:40,319
Speaker 1: whatever the things I'm addicted to are, or like, I

988
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: just remember that I have some kind that I have

989
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 1: the ability to exist as a normal human being. Is

990
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: am I is anything I'm saying resonating with you?

991
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm just listening to you. You're you're you're

992
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,040
Speaker 3: making sense.

993
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: Okay, good, So you know, don't put any pressure on it,

994
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: but yeah, you're something within you wants to go out

995
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: and be amongst society. So I I know, whether or

996
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: not you go to this rave or you go to

997
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 1: a fucking pinball tournament doesn't matter to me, but uh,

998
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,840
Speaker 1: I think it's good to follow that instinct.

999
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I just need to like talk to

1000
00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:18,000
Speaker 3: people because like when I like saw that random chick,

1001
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 3: like I think I just need like attention from a

1002
00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 3: woman right now, because like I saw her and I

1003
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 3: was like, I was like, this girl's like like like

1004
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 3: a like like dead ass, like a ten and she

1005
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 3: like glanced at me and fixed her hair and that

1006
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,520
Speaker 3: that was like euphoric. Like I was like thinking about

1007
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:34,200
Speaker 3: that for days.

1008
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: You know, dude, it's so god. I want to I

1009
00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:42,600
Speaker 1: wish I could. I wish I could cut up in

1010
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: your brain and rewire it. Dude. It's so contradictory or whatnot.

1011
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 2: But like.

1012
00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: It's so it's so contradictory, but you gotta at like, yeah,

1013
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: I know what you mean, but you gotta somehow get

1014
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: yourself to a place where you don't feel like you

1015
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 1: need that, because I know it's so cliche, but it

1016
00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: is true that once you get to the point where

1017
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,880
Speaker 1: you don't need that, you start to you start to

1018
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: just like feel healthy because like, yeah, of court, like right, yeah,

1019
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 1: because if you're like, you know, gooning and you're like

1020
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:42,640
Speaker 1: freaking out and you're like anxious and you're depressed, then yeah,

1021
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: of course something in your brain is gonna be like

1022
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,840
Speaker 1: all I fucking need to exist right now is the

1023
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: attention of a of a woman, And it's so paradoxical

1024
00:58:53,640 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 1: because it's operating from that place that that like like

1025
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 1: fucks you in a way, you know. So yeah, yeah,

1026
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. And I'm telling you this because I've like

1027
00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: been like in the cycles of it before. But like, uh, yeah,

1028
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:20,360
Speaker 1: you got to rewire yourself to a point where you're

1029
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,760
Speaker 1: just like a happy and content with your life, and

1030
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,480
Speaker 1: then you can build so much of a foundation upon

1031
00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 1: that that will ultimately and invertently can get can uh

1032
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, allow allow you to be in positions where

1033
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: you will naturally find yourself with the attention of of

1034
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,320
Speaker 1: a of a of a of a lady.

1035
00:59:42,440 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 2: You know.

1036
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. And I kind of just got to figure my

1037
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: shit out because I was like content with my ex

1038
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:53,320
Speaker 3: but I wasn't really doing anything, Like I was just

1039
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,720
Speaker 3: like working my job, hanging out with friends, like doing whatever.

1040
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 3: Like I feel like if I just end up in

1041
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,000
Speaker 3: another a relationship, I'll just like go back to that,

1042
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

1043
01:00:04,560 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, exactly, no, dude, yeah, yeah exactly. That's why

1044
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: you that's why you get Yeah, it's why you gotta

1045
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,400
Speaker 1: find something for yourself right now that will just allow

1046
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 1: you to be like okay with breathing. You're still there?

1047
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: Yeap?

1048
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: Was this helpful?

1049
01:00:32,680 --> 01:00:37,320
Speaker 3: This was very helpful. You've done a lot different on

1050
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 3: the fun.

1051
01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't know because I've never talked well,

1052
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 1: I talked to myself a lot, but I've never on

1053
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:52,920
Speaker 1: the phone. All right, Well, Devin, good luck, Devon. I

1054
01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: believe in you. Thanks h I'll see you around the universe.

1055
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 1: Good luck. Yeah, that was Devn. That was Devin. I

1056
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: gotta go to Montreal at some point. Montreal seems like

1057
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 1: a fun, cool place to exist. Should I go to Montreal?

1058
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 1: Should I eat a donut in Montreal out of Tim Horton's?

1059
01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 1: That sounds fun?

1060
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 3: Hello? Hello, what's up?

1061
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 4: Is this a get go?

1062
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 2: Oh?

1063
01:01:27,360 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: Yeah? What's your name?

1064
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 4: My name's James, Dude.

1065
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:32,600
Speaker 2: Good to talk to you.

1066
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:34,760
Speaker 1: Good to talk to you too, James. What's going on

1067
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: with you today?

1068
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: Uh?

1069
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 5: Uh?

1070
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 2: Fuck?

1071
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,080
Speaker 4: Man, I mean nothing too specific today. I'm seeing the

1072
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 4: Chainsaw Man movie later.

1073
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 2: I'm pretty happed about that.

1074
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: What's the Chainsaw Man movie?

1075
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 4: So there's this anime that came out like I don't

1076
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 4: even know how long ago. Now, it might be like

1077
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 4: four years ago. I think it came out in like

1078
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 4: twenty twenty Uh, it's based on a manga, as most

1079
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:06,920
Speaker 4: anime is, and as the the movies coming out or

1080
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: came out yesterday I think, and some of me and

1081
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:10,560
Speaker 4: my girlfriend are gonna go see it tonight.

1082
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 1: Cool, very good. Uh wait, is that the one with

1083
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 1: the dog?

1084
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, he's got like a an orange like chainsaw

1085
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:23,840
Speaker 4: dog thing.

1086
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's got like the like the equals three face

1087
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: almost you know what I'm saying.

1088
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: Does the does he does the chainsaw Man? Okay, so

1089
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: I've seen that dog before, the chainsaw Dog. I always

1090
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:38,280
Speaker 1: thought that the dog is the main character. But there's

1091
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:41,520
Speaker 1: a man and he does he use the dog as

1092
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:42,240
Speaker 1: a chainsaw?

1093
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:44,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1094
01:02:44,160 --> 01:02:47,520
Speaker 4: So all right, So spoilers for Chainsaw Man for sure,

1095
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 4: for you know, anyone listening. But so he initially he's

1096
01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 4: in debt to the mob and he uses the dog

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Speaker 4: as a chainsaw to kill these devils to sell to

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Speaker 4: the mob for money. But then he ends up getting

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Speaker 4: like the dude, the man gets dismembered and the dog

1100
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:15,280
Speaker 4: like fuses with his heart and he becomes like this

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01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 4: like crazy like chainsaw head, like chainsaw arms, chainsaw everything

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01:03:21,120 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 4: pretty much man, chainsaw Man.

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Speaker 2: It's you know, m hmm.

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Speaker 1: Interesting have you ever seen The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know what, I actually just saw that for

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: the first time. I was pretty shocked because I'm into

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01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 4: like slasher movies and shit, but i'd never seen that one,

1108
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 4: and obviously it's pretty influential for the whole genre. So

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I never got around to it,

1110
01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 4: but it had a pretty like on the nose anti

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01:03:54,920 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 4: violence sentiment, at least to me.

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Speaker 1: You know, wait, you're telling me that the Texas chains

1113
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:03,400
Speaker 1: I've never I don't think I've ever actually seen it.

1114
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I just know about it. It's a pop

1115
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: culture thing. You're telling me that the movie itself has

1116
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: an anti violence sentiment.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so, okay, here's what I'm gonna say. I don't

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01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:19,160
Speaker 4: know that it's necessarily like completely on the nose anti violence,

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 4: even though I just said that, because obviously it's a

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Speaker 4: slasher movie. But the whole thing is like framed around

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Speaker 4: this idea where like the movie opens and they talk

1122
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:35,560
Speaker 4: about like how fucked up it is that uh, like

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Speaker 4: cattle used to get killed with sledgehammers, like they'd hit

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Speaker 4: him in the head and then they'd like be like

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Speaker 4: seizing up or whatever, Like how inhumane that was, and

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01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 4: then they talk about how like, you know, it's still

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01:04:47,840 --> 01:04:50,680
Speaker 4: inhumane to do it with the bolt gun, but not

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Speaker 4: everyone agrees, and they show like the you know, like

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Speaker 4: they show the cows and whatever, so I think the

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01:04:58,520 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: point of it.

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Speaker 2: And then when people.

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Speaker 4: Get killed, there's only you know, there's only one dude

1133
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:05,919
Speaker 4: that actually gets killed with the chainsaw on that movie.

1134
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 4: The rest of them get hit in the head with hammers.

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01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 1: Do they show the guy getting like how graphic is.

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01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:15,800
Speaker 4: The well, that's the thing. Also, the first one from

1137
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 4: like the I don't know if it was from the

1138
01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:20,080
Speaker 4: early seventies of the sixties or even the late seventies,

1139
01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:21,880
Speaker 4: I guess I don't really know when it came out,

1140
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 4: but they it literally like the one dude that actually

1141
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,720
Speaker 4: gets killed with a chainsaw, you only see it from behind.

1142
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:34,600
Speaker 4: The most graphic that movie gets dude is probably the

1143
01:05:34,640 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: first kill of the whole thing. The dude gets he

1144
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 4: gets bonked on the head and starts like season up.

1145
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:44,479
Speaker 4: It's pretty fucked up. But other than that, like, yeah,

1146
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 4: there's like a chick that comes out of a freezer

1147
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 4: and that wouldn't be pleasant, but it's not like particularly graphic,

1148
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 4: you know.

1149
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: I guess the Texas Hammer massacre doesn't have the same

1150
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:01,040
Speaker 1: ring to it, but that is the movie. Yeah, you

1151
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: call that in production.

1152
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 5: That's hysterical.

1153
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:09,479
Speaker 4: Holy shit, can you imagine? I don't think it would

1154
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 4: have become the phenomenon that it was, but I'll say

1155
01:06:14,520 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 4: the you know, there's like it's actually kind of hysterical

1156
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 4: that there's like probably fifteen minutes of chainsaw chase in

1157
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:27,720
Speaker 4: that movie. That's literally just like a woman running through

1158
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:31,000
Speaker 4: the woods and dudes streaming and running after with a

1159
01:06:31,080 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 4: chainsaw and they do that for like fifteen minutes.

1160
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,600
Speaker 1: Well, James, let me ask you, is there anything in

1161
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: particular that you called in to want to talk about

1162
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 1: today or is just shooting the shit dude?

1163
01:06:43,200 --> 01:06:49,080
Speaker 4: I gotta be honest, like, I'm it's just crazy that

1164
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: you picked up you know what I mean. I do

1165
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 4: want to say, I'm right now, I'm in grad school.

1166
01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:01,400
Speaker 4: I'm getting a doctorate in clinical and school psychology, and

1167
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 4: I don't know, like I I found out about you

1168
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 4: an undergrad man and listening to a lot of the

1169
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 4: calls that you do, it's it's it's been really inspiring

1170
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 4: to hear how people open up, even in environments that

1171
01:07:16,560 --> 01:07:19,680
Speaker 4: you know, aren't necessarily like closed and how you'd think

1172
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:20,240
Speaker 4: of therapy.

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,200
Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And I think, just like.

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Speaker 4: With everything that I've been learning, I think the questions

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01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 4: that you ask or are really insightful.

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Speaker 1: Oh thanks, man, I appreciate that. Hmmm. Well, okay, what's

1178
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: what how's your journey in clinical psychology going.

1179
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,600
Speaker 4: It's going pretty good so far. I mean, you know,

1180
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 4: obviously I'm I'm really interested in everything that I end

1181
01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:48,800
Speaker 4: up learning. But the at some point, like you know,

1182
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:51,920
Speaker 4: once you hit the terminal.

1183
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,080
Speaker 2: Degree level, they're like, well, read these.

1184
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 4: Like literally like three hundred pages a week, and it's

1185
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 4: kind of the ryest shit you've ever read in your life.

1186
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,919
Speaker 4: And a lot of it, at least for this because

1187
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 4: I just entered my first semester, a lot of it

1188
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 4: right now is just like dry ass like New York

1189
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 4: State like legislative shit that you need to know to

1190
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:17,280
Speaker 4: make sure that you don't get sued.

1191
01:08:17,360 --> 01:08:22,000
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, that sounds important to not you know,

1192
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: do it in a way that you know, to do

1193
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: it in a way that's not illegal.

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01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent, because I mean, if you

1195
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 4: do it in a way that's illegal, because uh, you're

1196
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 4: you end up practicing under the light the licenses of

1197
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 4: some of your professors in this program, you know, they're

1198
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,600
Speaker 4: on the hook, so it's not just you. And on

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Speaker 4: top of that, like if you're not doing it the

1200
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,760
Speaker 4: way that you're supposed to, you could be fucking up

1201
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 4: a client, you know. So it's definitely a big deal.

1202
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. Hm hmmm. Uh what do you think of

1203
01:08:54,680 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 1: the psychological ramifications of getting hit really hard in the

1204
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,560
Speaker 1: head with a hammer?

1205
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 5: I would say, uh, if you end up dead, there's

1206
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 5: not much psychological ramifications because you just be dead at

1207
01:09:14,280 --> 01:09:14,759
Speaker 5: that point.

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01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:18,520
Speaker 1: Wouldn't psychological ramification dead deadness?

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 4: Now you're getting philosophical, man, you know, because like if

1210
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 4: there's nothing to am, like if you can't think, are

1211
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:26,800
Speaker 4: you am?

1212
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:29,360
Speaker 2: You know? Oh?

1213
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:32,439
Speaker 1: Yeah that's true. Yeah, Life's for the living.

1214
01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:38,240
Speaker 4: Life is for the living, dude, life is for the living.

1215
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: Are you.

1216
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 4: I got to actually ask you, man, because you know,

1217
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:46,000
Speaker 4: I've definitely listened to to a bunch of the podcast,

1218
01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: but I'm wondering did you look into like any like

1219
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 4: like how to be an effective therapist or anything before

1220
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:53,080
Speaker 4: you started?

1221
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: It's not that, like, you know, absolutely not, absolutely not. No, No,

1222
01:09:58,760 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: I'm not. I don'm not even I'm not even I'm

1223
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,680
Speaker 1: not really trying to even be a therapist or like

1224
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:08,639
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm just, uh, I'm just talking.

1225
01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:14,200
Speaker 4: About your Yeah, well that's good. Did you look into Yeah.

1226
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: Well, I don't, like I don't know, like sometimes I

1227
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: just like be talking to somebody in like my actual life.

1228
01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 1: There's a big pet peeve of mine. I'll be like

1229
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 1: talking to someone in my actual life and then they

1230
01:10:27,560 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 1: look at me and they're like, are you doing your

1231
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: therapy gecko thing on me right now? And I'm like no,

1232
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 1: I'm just it's just it's just I have a natural

1233
01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:43,599
Speaker 1: curiosity for certain things that I guess end up steering

1234
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 1: themselves towards, uh something therapy. E. But it's not like

1235
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: an intentional practice of therapy. I mean, I'm just really trying.

1236
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,479
Speaker 1: I'm just really like chatting with people, you know. I'm

1237
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 1: just like, uh, it's it's just an interesting way to

1238
01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 1: like connect with people and kind of share little slices

1239
01:11:07,120 --> 01:11:11,559
Speaker 1: of everyone's life and uh put put them on paper

1240
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,519
Speaker 1: plates and hand them ount to whoever the fuck is listening,

1241
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: you know.

1242
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, dude, I think you'd be surprised at

1243
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:24,559
Speaker 4: like how close you get to to really like effective therapy,

1244
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,200
Speaker 4: especially for like first sessions and shit. Like what we're

1245
01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:29,519
Speaker 4: learning right now, or at least what I'm learning in

1246
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 4: one of my classes is about the first stage, which

1247
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 4: is like exploration, you know, and pretty much you know

1248
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,640
Speaker 4: there there's more specifics than this, but on like a

1249
01:11:41,640 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 4: base level, one of the main things is just having

1250
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:51,280
Speaker 4: like openness and honesty and curiosity about what everybody brings

1251
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 4: to the table and what people want to talk about.

1252
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 4: And I think that, I mean, you really, you really

1253
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 4: have that in droves. It's it's pretty impressive.

1254
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: Thanks man. Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I'm

1255
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: naturally curious about things, except when I get burnt out.

1256
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:16,840
Speaker 1: Like in my I always feel like I have like

1257
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: like five different versions of myself and I don't know

1258
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:23,840
Speaker 1: if any I don't believe in any of them to

1259
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:27,799
Speaker 1: be like the true one. There's definitely one. There's definitely

1260
01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: versions of myself that I'm more proud of than others,

1261
01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:32,600
Speaker 1: that I like more than others. But I think that

1262
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 1: they all come together to make you know me, And

1263
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: I think I have versions of myself that are very

1264
01:12:42,760 --> 01:12:49,439
Speaker 1: curious and like to engage and be with people, and

1265
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:54,120
Speaker 1: you know it is optimistic and whatnot. And I think

1266
01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: when when I'm channeling that, you know, I can be

1267
01:13:00,960 --> 01:13:03,200
Speaker 1: yeah effective at some shit like that. But then I

1268
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:05,479
Speaker 1: also asked that versions of myself that just would fucking

1269
01:13:05,520 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: don't want to fucking talk to anyone or do anything

1270
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,840
Speaker 1: and you know, burnt out. It depends who shows up

1271
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 1: that day, you know what I'm saying.

1272
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:16,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I get that too. And you know, I

1273
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,439
Speaker 4: don't know if it's necessarily a cliche, but it's kind

1274
01:13:19,439 --> 01:13:21,439
Speaker 4: of like a bumper sticker but the whole like we

1275
01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,080
Speaker 4: contain multitudes type of thing.

1276
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that.

1277
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:30,000
Speaker 4: That definitely applies. You said when you said you you

1278
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:33,360
Speaker 4: have five, do you like know specific Like is that

1279
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,360
Speaker 4: specific or are you just like picking a number?

1280
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: No, I was throwing a number out there. It's probably

1281
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:38,960
Speaker 1: specifically five.

1282
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:40,280
Speaker 2: I know.

1283
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 4: I was wondering if you had like a like a

1284
01:13:42,520 --> 01:13:46,040
Speaker 4: specific like, man, there's like five moods that could be.

1285
01:13:46,080 --> 01:13:50,080
Speaker 1: In I could run. That would be an interesting practice

1286
01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:56,439
Speaker 1: to try to like identify them and write them down. Yeah, yeah,

1287
01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,559
Speaker 1: that would be an interesting practice to like see if

1288
01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:03,439
Speaker 1: I can identify them and write them down. That would

1289
01:14:03,479 --> 01:14:06,400
Speaker 1: also feel wreaky, That would feel claustrophobic, because then I'd

1290
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:08,439
Speaker 1: be looking at it and being like, oh, this is

1291
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 1: the cage that I live in. Yeah, yeah, I can't be.

1292
01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:17,160
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't be outside of these five versions

1293
01:14:17,160 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: of myself that I've clearly defined. That's that would I

1294
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 1: think that would give me. That would make me feel crazy.

1295
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:25,639
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna try

1296
01:14:25,640 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: to do it and see if I see what I got.

1297
01:14:29,479 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, put out a newsletter with the five stages.

1298
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: A geck, what do you have? How many versions of yourself?

1299
01:14:39,479 --> 01:14:39,880
Speaker 1: Do you have?

1300
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,400
Speaker 3: A good question?

1301
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,599
Speaker 4: Man, I don't really know. I feel like I've got

1302
01:14:45,640 --> 01:14:51,240
Speaker 4: like a at least two for sure, because I think

1303
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 4: that too to the time. Yeah, at least at least,

1304
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 4: because there's probably more. I just haven't thought about it

1305
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 4: that much. Like this is a pretty interesting thought experiment.

1306
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,120
Speaker 4: But when I think about it, I think I'm pretty

1307
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 4: consistent with like, you know, I just kind of a

1308
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 4: lot of the time I'm spending time in my apartment

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01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 4: just kind of either reading for school, playing guitar, and

1310
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,400
Speaker 4: then the other mode would just be like you know,

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01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 4: pretty much anything outside where you kind of put it on,

1312
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 4: you know, what I mean, sure, and like you're either

1313
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:28,080
Speaker 4: like doing work with other people or trying to get

1314
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,200
Speaker 4: something done efficiently a lot of the time.

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01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: Man.

1316
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,160
Speaker 4: I mean the reason I say it's pretty consistent though,

1317
01:15:34,280 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: is just like you know, getting stoned out of your

1318
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 4: brain and like fucking playing music or whatever.

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01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: You know.

1320
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:44,400
Speaker 1: I can't believe you only have two. That's very your

1321
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,559
Speaker 1: sound you sound. I think if you only have two,

1322
01:15:46,680 --> 01:15:51,520
Speaker 1: you're a very healthy guy. You think so, I think so, yeah,

1323
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: I mean you're a very healthy guy or like you

1324
01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:01,479
Speaker 1: prefer like, uh, it sounds like you prefer like a

1325
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:06,080
Speaker 1: simpler existence. I don't know if that's is that accurate.

1326
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:07,639
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's offensive to say. I don't

1327
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:09,360
Speaker 1: think it's offensive. I think I'm just trying to be

1328
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:10,519
Speaker 1: like matter of fact about it.

1329
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:14,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, one hundred percent. I mean it wouldn't be offensive

1330
01:16:14,160 --> 01:16:17,280
Speaker 4: to me personally. I could definitely see what you're saying where.

1331
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,040
Speaker 2: Like some people might.

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01:16:18,160 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 4: But I don't know that, Like, I don't know how

1333
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:25,920
Speaker 4: much more there really needs to be, you know, other

1334
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 4: than just like doing whatever it is that is making

1335
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: you happy in that moment. And obviously I guess it

1336
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,720
Speaker 4: might get confused if like what makes you happy, is

1337
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:41,560
Speaker 4: like now adaptive or whatever like like that or what

1338
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,560
Speaker 4: if you confuse like happy for comfortable. You know what

1339
01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,560
Speaker 4: I mean, because you've got to be uncomfortable sometimes to

1340
01:16:48,760 --> 01:16:49,719
Speaker 4: like grow and whatever.

1341
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know what you man, I know your man.

1342
01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:59,760
Speaker 1: Hm hmm. I was going to say something and I forgot.

1343
01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: I've probably said this on here before. But I used

1344
01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:08,960
Speaker 1: to think that I used to want to not have

1345
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:11,080
Speaker 1: different versions of myself. I used to think that it

1346
01:17:11,160 --> 01:17:14,640
Speaker 1: was the ultimate. I used to think it was a

1347
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: strong virtue, and maybe part of me still does. But

1348
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: I used to think it was a very strong virtue

1349
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: if you could have as if you could be the

1350
01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:37,600
Speaker 1: same person as consistently as possible across all situations. I

1351
01:17:37,720 --> 01:17:39,599
Speaker 1: used to think that was a virtue, and in some

1352
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:48,000
Speaker 1: ways I still do. Like I think that if you can,

1353
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: like if you're like a confident guy, but only like

1354
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,439
Speaker 1: in certain situations, and then you get placed in like

1355
01:17:53,479 --> 01:18:00,479
Speaker 1: a very foreign environment and you like can maintain who

1356
01:18:00,520 --> 01:18:04,560
Speaker 1: you are and maintain your confidence in that foreign environment,

1357
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: I find that very impressive. Like I've seen people do that.

1358
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 1: I've seen people where like I've hung out with them

1359
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 1: and they're a certain way when I'm talking to them,

1360
01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:19,439
Speaker 1: and then like we're in some situation or some shit

1361
01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: where like if I was in this situation, I would definitely,

1362
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: not even intentionally, I would just like maybe be more

1363
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,000
Speaker 1: quiet or something like that. And I've seen someone be

1364
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:29,880
Speaker 1: in a situation like that and they're the fucking same

1365
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,520
Speaker 1: version of themselves. I find that to be very virtuous.

1366
01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: Some people are just fucking built like that. Nowadays, I'm

1367
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 1: like I do nowadays, I do think that that's virtuous,

1368
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: But I also don't think it's necessarily realistic. I don't

1369
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 1: think it's realistic to be the same I don't think

1370
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: it's realistic to be the same version of you when

1371
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,800
Speaker 1: you're working and when you're with your friends and when

1372
01:18:55,800 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: you're talking to your grandma, and when you're sad, and

1373
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,679
Speaker 1: when you're happy, and when you're angry and when you're whatever.

1374
01:19:01,760 --> 01:19:04,559
Speaker 1: I don't I don't think it's realistic. I think you

1375
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: have to have some you have to have some level

1376
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 1: of like keeping yourself. You have to have some baseline

1377
01:19:11,200 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 1: level to which you're subscribing. But that's that feels very

1378
01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:22,280
Speaker 1: inhuman to me. I feel like it's more human to

1379
01:19:22,479 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: be the to have five different version of observe yourself

1380
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:31,040
Speaker 1: than it is to like stay consistent. I still I

1381
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: still think it's a virtue to stay consistent. I'm trying

1382
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,639
Speaker 1: to think of a specific example because I don't being

1383
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:40,720
Speaker 1: very vague, but like, uh, I don't know, like if

1384
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:48,120
Speaker 1: you're you know, if you're like at a party or something, and.

1385
01:19:48,960 --> 01:19:52,240
Speaker 4: Like your party self versus like your school self versus

1386
01:19:52,240 --> 01:19:52,920
Speaker 4: your job self.

1387
01:19:53,280 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: Kind Yeah, sure, whatever, Yeah, something like that. I do

1388
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: still think it's I don't. I think it's a virtue

1389
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:07,760
Speaker 1: in some degree. I'll not allow outside stimulus to let

1390
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,280
Speaker 1: you change who you are, but sometimes it's inside stimulus

1391
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:15,439
Speaker 1: that's changing who you are. Sometimes, like your fucking just

1392
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: whatever emotion is overtaking you is causing you to be

1393
01:20:18,960 --> 01:20:19,679
Speaker 1: someone different.

1394
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, totally. I mean what I think about when when

1395
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,160
Speaker 4: you're saying this man is the movie Shrek. You know,

1396
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 4: we're like, we're like onion, But that movie was about ogres,

1397
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,360
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that necessarily applies.

1398
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got to you, but yeah, when Shrek is like,

1399
01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 1: people are like onions. They have layers. Although the the

1400
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 1: the onion analogy implies the onion analogy I don't like

1401
01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 1: because it implies a hierarchy, and I don't believe that

1402
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 1: the different versions have a hierarchy. Maybe they maybe they

1403
01:21:00,200 --> 01:21:02,200
Speaker 1: When I think of versions of myself, I'm like, oh,

1404
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 1: I like when I think of versions of myself, I'm like, oh,

1405
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,320
Speaker 1: I like some of these a lot better than others.

1406
01:21:09,960 --> 01:21:12,560
Speaker 1: But so maybe they have maybe they have a hierarchy

1407
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 1: in terms of quality, but not in terms.

1408
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:23,240
Speaker 4: Of truth, like being true to your like in terms

1409
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:24,720
Speaker 4: of like who you actually are.

1410
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I don't think that. I don't think that

1411
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 1: the different layers of yourself have a hierarchy in terms

1412
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:33,559
Speaker 1: of like truth, Like I think who you are when

1413
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 1: you're fucking pissed off or when you're happy, or when

1414
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:41,200
Speaker 1: you're around this person in that person, I think they

1415
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: all are true because you're being that in that moment

1416
01:21:45,439 --> 01:21:49,080
Speaker 1: that you're existing, Like they're part of your the narrative

1417
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 1: of who you are, and they you can adapt and

1418
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:54,040
Speaker 1: change it evolve. But like, uh, I don't know they're

1419
01:21:54,040 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: all true, but they definitely have a hierarchy in terms

1420
01:21:56,680 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, I've been like if I've been like

1421
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 1: an asshole to some one when I was like pissed off,

1422
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:06,400
Speaker 1: or if I've been really nice or kind or selfish

1423
01:22:06,479 --> 01:22:09,360
Speaker 1: or loving to somebody when I was feeling in that moment,

1424
01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:13,479
Speaker 1: like both of those are true, Like I think they

1425
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,920
Speaker 1: sit on equal footing of truth, but they definitely sit

1426
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,040
Speaker 1: on opposite footings in terms of like which of those

1427
01:22:19,200 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 1: I think is better to embody? You know, But it's

1428
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: definitely better to be the version of myself that is,

1429
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:31,479
Speaker 1: you know, kind than like pissed off. But I don't

1430
01:22:31,479 --> 01:22:33,680
Speaker 1: know if you'd either one of them is the the

1431
01:22:33,800 --> 01:22:36,479
Speaker 1: true one.

1432
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I get what you mean, man, And I think

1433
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 4: it's important to just like remember that, you know, like

1434
01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:49,599
Speaker 4: whenever you're wherever you are in the present, you're always

1435
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 4: kind of like just making decisions that become you, you

1436
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean.

1437
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, So like you can.

1438
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 4: Be any of those and thinking back on this is

1439
01:22:57,960 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 4: just a way of like underunderstanding how you'd prefer to

1440
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,800
Speaker 4: act in the future, you know.

1441
01:23:04,439 --> 01:23:06,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it's you know what you know, it

1442
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: makes it feel existential. Sometimes I don't feel existential in

1443
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: this moment. I feel pretty grounded, but it's I've gotten

1444
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,360
Speaker 1: into a crazy existential loop before just thinking about like

1445
01:23:17,479 --> 01:23:20,400
Speaker 1: how I can never take a break from being myself.

1446
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:26,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's true. Man, because whoever you're you are at

1447
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:27,719
Speaker 4: that moment is just you.

1448
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 3: You know.

1449
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: You know, you can stay inside and play video games

1450
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:33,559
Speaker 1: and like ignore the world as long as you possibly can,

1451
01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:37,879
Speaker 1: but like, uh, you can never really take a break

1452
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 1: from being yourself. That doesn't freak me out. In this moment,

1453
01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,880
Speaker 1: I feel okay, But there's been times where that streaked

1454
01:23:45,960 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: me out.

1455
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 4: You know what kind of freaks me out? Dog, And

1456
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,360
Speaker 4: I don't want to like, you know, take you to

1457
01:23:52,439 --> 01:23:53,960
Speaker 4: an existential place, but.

1458
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: No, I'm here for I'm here for it in this moment.

1459
01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:00,479
Speaker 4: Let's do it, all right, sweet dude. Well, I get

1460
01:24:00,600 --> 01:24:03,759
Speaker 4: kind of fucking freaked out when I smoke a shit ton.

1461
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:08,040
Speaker 2: Of weed about like just like.

1462
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 4: I don't I don't know if this is necessarily the way,

1463
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,679
Speaker 4: because I don't know that I've ever articulated this tvah man.

1464
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:20,799
Speaker 4: But like I think about almost like developing, like past

1465
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,800
Speaker 4: versions of myself have like died almost and I wonder, like,

1466
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:28,760
Speaker 4: am I like really the same consciousness you know what

1467
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 4: I mean? Like almost ship a theseus style, because like

1468
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 4: we're constantly like shedding our skin and whatever and like

1469
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 4: becoming like physically literally new people, and like you know,

1470
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:44,000
Speaker 4: developing new physical characteristics and everything. But on top of that,

1471
01:24:44,080 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 4: like psychologically we're constantly like changing and having new experiences

1472
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,719
Speaker 4: that make us respond in different ways in the future

1473
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 4: based off of like what our con sexualization of the

1474
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 4: world and like how we fit into it and how

1475
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,800
Speaker 4: that changes over time. And I and I like wonder

1476
01:25:01,880 --> 01:25:05,920
Speaker 4: about like whether like memories I have of myself, if

1477
01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 4: like that self still exists or if like I'm a

1478
01:25:08,680 --> 01:25:10,400
Speaker 4: totally new dude, you know what I mean.

1479
01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:15,720
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I think the self. Yeah, I think that

1480
01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:17,880
Speaker 1: self still exists. I mean it's you.

1481
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:19,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you think so, you.

1482
01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:26,559
Speaker 1: Know, unless if you're like unless if you're counting every

1483
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,599
Speaker 1: single second of your life to be a different version

1484
01:25:29,640 --> 01:25:32,519
Speaker 1: of you, which you can. That's what I'm saying, is

1485
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,519
Speaker 1: that is that Alan there's that Alan Watts thing of

1486
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,960
Speaker 1: like you're under no obligation to be who you were

1487
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:45,439
Speaker 1: five minutes ago. Yeah, but it's hard. I don't know

1488
01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:48,080
Speaker 1: if that's I'm I'm I'm saying that as a bit

1489
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 1: of an idealist. Yeah, yeah, that it's like I in

1490
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 1: my idealist version of the universe, Yeah, you're you're under

1491
01:25:58,680 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: no obligation to be who you are or uh five

1492
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: minutes ago, But yeah, do those versions of yourself still exist?

1493
01:26:11,160 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1494
01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:13,599
Speaker 1: I mean you're still alive, You're still here. But also

1495
01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,080
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, I mean, what's going on now? Right

1496
01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:18,559
Speaker 1: like for example, like for example, like when you think

1497
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: of these past versions, like things like do you do

1498
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:24,680
Speaker 1: that press version of you still exist? Like it's manifested

1499
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: in the things that you're doing every day, right like

1500
01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,000
Speaker 1: because yea, So imagine when you think of like a

1501
01:26:32,040 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 1: memory you had with a friend, like and you're like, oh,

1502
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:36,880
Speaker 1: do I still exist?

1503
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 3: Well?

1504
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:40,800
Speaker 1: Do you still talk to that friend? Do you have

1505
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 1: a relationship with them? You know, Like I mean, are

1506
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:47,719
Speaker 1: you're still alive? You're still breathing, You're not fucking dead?

1507
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: You still you still am, you have the you're not

1508
01:26:52,120 --> 01:26:53,600
Speaker 1: you still have the thoughts. You haven't been hit in

1509
01:26:53,640 --> 01:26:55,920
Speaker 1: the head with a hammer or chainsaw, so yeah, you

1510
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 1: are still yourself? Yeah, sure, you still exist?

1511
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 2: Why not?

1512
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:01,519
Speaker 1: Who cares?

1513
01:27:01,640 --> 01:27:04,760
Speaker 4: That's a pretty clean solution of that conundrum. Man, Like,

1514
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:06,240
Speaker 4: if you don't get hit in the head with a

1515
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 4: like a cattle sledgehammer and you're not seasoned out, you're

1516
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:10,880
Speaker 4: you're still like you're still there.

1517
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of you until you die, I think,

1518
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,840
Speaker 1: but you can manage you can't You're kind of you

1519
01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 1: until you die. You can manage you if you think

1520
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:28,560
Speaker 1: of yourself as like a disease, uh, which I sometimes

1521
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:31,320
Speaker 1: think of Sometimes I think of my my ego and

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01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 1: my identity as a fucking disease. And I'm like, well, yeah,

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01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:37,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's no cure for cancer yet. There's no

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01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: cure for the cancer of being myself yet. But uh

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01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: with you know, with with certain chemotherapy, it can be

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01:27:45,560 --> 01:27:48,640
Speaker 1: managed and a good life can still be lived, you

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01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:49,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean.

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01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well hey man, that's the that's the key,

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01:27:55,200 --> 01:27:58,439
Speaker 4: you know, just trying to live as good a life

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01:27:58,439 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 4: as you can.

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:27:59,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and.

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01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 4: Hopefully everyone can, you know, James, Yeah.

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01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:13,200
Speaker 1: This was good. I needed a I needed a psycholog

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01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:18,599
Speaker 1: I needed a psychological I needed an existential conversation today.

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01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:23,120
Speaker 4: Anytime I need some existential thoughts, man, I throw on

1536
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:24,000
Speaker 4: the therapy.

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01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:29,280
Speaker 3: Get Goo podcasts good.

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01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Sometimes I don't know it's weird. I'm not I'm

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:36,639
Speaker 1: gonna keep prolonging this conversation just im thinking about it now.

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01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 2: But uh.

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01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:42,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, like I feel really good this week. I feel

1542
01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:44,400
Speaker 1: really good right now because I'm on stimulants or whatever.

1543
01:28:44,400 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: But I'm like this, I go in like these fucking

1544
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: cycles man, of like, yeah, sometimes it feels good and

1545
01:28:51,080 --> 01:28:54,840
Speaker 1: I feel idealist and I feel whatever, and then I

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01:28:54,920 --> 01:28:59,599
Speaker 1: kind of return to, you know, a more depressive state.

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01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:02,040
Speaker 1: And sometimes I feel like that's just the disease of

1548
01:29:02,040 --> 01:29:08,320
Speaker 1: my existence, and I've held out hope that things can

1549
01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: I uh, yeah, no, I think every time, every time

1550
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,040
Speaker 1: I return to the surface and catch my breath, I

1551
01:29:19,120 --> 01:29:20,000
Speaker 1: learned a new thing.

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01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:21,280
Speaker 2: You know.

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01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:26,639
Speaker 1: It's like I was talking to the guy. I don't

1554
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: know if I'll use these two calls in the same

1555
01:29:29,479 --> 01:29:31,280
Speaker 1: episode or whatever, but I was talking to the guy,

1556
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,680
Speaker 1: uh who was a janitor about how his life is good.

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01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: And I've been doing that with myself. But I'm just

1558
01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: like realizing that, like, you know, my life is good

1559
01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:46,679
Speaker 1: whether or not I you know, exist in some weird

1560
01:29:46,720 --> 01:29:55,840
Speaker 1: existential state. Anyway. Anyway, anyway, I'm ready to I'm ready

1561
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,720
Speaker 1: to end this. It was good talking to you, James.

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01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,760
Speaker 1: You're good, You're You're a cool guy. You're a cool guy.

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01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited for whatever you do in your psychology universe.

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01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,840
Speaker 4: Thanks brother, I appreciate it. And you know, I mean

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01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:10,640
Speaker 4: I think it's clear from my previous rhetoric, but I

1566
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,439
Speaker 4: think you're a pretty cool, cool guy too.

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01:30:12,439 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: Man, Is there anything else you want to say to

1568
01:30:16,840 --> 01:30:18,240
Speaker 1: the people of the computer before we go?

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01:30:20,640 --> 01:30:20,800
Speaker 2: Uh?

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01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, try to.

1571
01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:28,799
Speaker 2: Try to have.

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01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:34,439
Speaker 4: Empathy for other people and really try to understand why

1573
01:30:34,479 --> 01:30:36,320
Speaker 4: people make the decisions they do.

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01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 2: And I think that.

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01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:43,840
Speaker 4: You'll be a lot more understanding for it and maybe

1576
01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 4: have less less spite in the world, you know, And

1577
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,160
Speaker 4: I think that's only good. And then on top of that,

1578
01:30:52,160 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 4: not to milk this, but read more hurt Vonnegut.

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01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 2: My final thought rock and Roll.

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01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,799
Speaker 1: I've never I don't really I don't really read books,

1581
01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: but yeah, I guess read. I thought I thought there

1582
01:31:11,600 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: was gonna be a butt to that, but I realized

1583
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,800
Speaker 1: the truth is that there's no. But I'm sorry.

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01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 4: Well, a good place to start, dog, if you're interested,

1585
01:31:20,479 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 4: either Slaughterhouse five, Cat's Cradle, or Sirens the Titan all

1586
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:25,679
Speaker 4: really really good books.

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01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:29,560
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, that's good to know. Yeah, maybe.

1588
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,880
Speaker 2: Give it a whirl if you want.

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01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, James, you have a good rest of your

1590
01:31:36,320 --> 01:31:36,840
Speaker 1: entire life.

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01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:40,000
Speaker 4: Man, he's too Dog, I'll talk to you later.

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01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:49,240
Speaker 1: Lady James. Right, yeah, I'm not a book guy. Uh,

1593
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,120
Speaker 1: And I don't feel I used to feel I used

1594
01:31:53,160 --> 01:31:57,880
Speaker 1: to like. I don't know, I don't subscribe to like

1595
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:01,360
Speaker 1: I think I don't subscribe to reading as a virtue.

1596
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:03,960
Speaker 1: I think it's just one of several I don't know.

1597
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,639
Speaker 1: I'm not here. I'm not shitting on this guy's books.

1598
01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know. I'm just vamping right now.

1599
01:32:07,960 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: But I don't think. I don't as I get old.

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01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 1: As I get older, I'm like, I don't think. I

1601
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:21,640
Speaker 1: have a few strongly held beliefs. One is that, at

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01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:26,759
Speaker 1: least domestically, all food is the same. So when someone

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01:32:26,840 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 1: is like, oh, the the Mexican food in San Antonio,

1604
01:32:31,280 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: Texas is so good, I'm like, all right, but there's

1605
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:39,280
Speaker 1: a you know, ah, in Maryland, in like a small

1606
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:44,720
Speaker 1: town in Timonium, there's a really good Mexican restaurant where

1607
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: you can get a burrito, and your experience of eating

1608
01:32:47,560 --> 01:32:49,640
Speaker 1: that burrita will be pretty identical to the one that

1609
01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:52,200
Speaker 1: you got in San Antonio. In Denver, there's probably a

1610
01:32:52,200 --> 01:32:55,479
Speaker 1: good Mexican place in San Francisco's there's probably, like you

1611
01:32:55,520 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 1: know this, all food is the same domestically, that's one

1612
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: of my strongly held beliefs. My other strongly held belief

1613
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,840
Speaker 1: as I don't think reading is inherently virtuous. I don't

1614
01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,639
Speaker 1: know why I'm going on this rant. I just needed

1615
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:13,439
Speaker 1: more things to say. Yeah, go read, Go read the

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01:33:13,439 --> 01:33:15,639
Speaker 1: books that this guy's staying to read. Yeah, if you're

1617
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: not a fucking idiot like me, go read the books

1618
01:33:17,960 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: that this kind gentleman is saying to read. My friend

1619
01:33:22,920 --> 01:33:25,240
Speaker 1: let me slaughter House five once. I didn't read it.

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01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:28,880
Speaker 1: I have too much ADHD to like sit and read

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01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: a book, so I talked to I was just like,

1622
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:36,519
Speaker 1: even when I was like yeah, even when I was

1623
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:39,160
Speaker 1: in h like high school and shit, I just always

1624
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,160
Speaker 1: did the spark notes. I read Animal Farm cover to cover.

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01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: That was the one book. But like, I'm not fucking

1626
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,519
Speaker 1: reading Watership Down cover to cutter cover. You know, I

1627
01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 1: got Call of Duty to play. I got Yeah, I

1628
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 1: had too many ADHD for that ship. But yeah, go

1629
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,280
Speaker 1: read a book. Maybe go read a book. Okay. My

1630
01:33:57,320 --> 01:34:01,559
Speaker 1: rant about this is over. Was on the line taking

1631
01:34:01,600 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 1: your phone calls every night. Everything get goes to on

1632
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:05,360
Speaker 1: his eye.

1633
01:34:05,479 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 2: He's teaching you to hout of your life, but he's

1634
01:34:08,520 --> 01:34:11,000
Speaker 2: not really an expert,