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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and I'm Serena and we are here today with Juliana. Juliana,

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Speaker 1: welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for having me, guys, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 1: How you doing. How you feeling.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I'm feeling good. I'm just excited to

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Speaker 2: be here.

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Speaker 1: Nice. All right, we've been watching you. We just saw

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Speaker 1: we watched your one on one. We'll get all into that,

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Speaker 1: but before we do a little background, where are you

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Speaker 1: currently living.

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Speaker 2: I'm right outside of Boston. I'm in Newton, Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: Nice. Nice that where you grew up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I grew up in Newton. I actually grew up

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Speaker 3: in the same house that my mom grew up in.

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Speaker 4: So oh that's so nice. Wow, that's gonna be a

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Speaker 4: hard day if you guys ever have to sell that house.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know, they just got a house in Florida.

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Speaker 3: So I'm like, can you just keep this house for

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Speaker 3: a few more years till I can buy it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll keep it in the family. I was actually

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Speaker 4: just at my parents' place this past weekend and I

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Speaker 4: was thinking, like, Damn, I'm gonna be really sad if

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Speaker 4: they ever sell this house or so many memories or

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Speaker 4: the couch in the basement. Yeah, the couch in the

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Speaker 4: basement is so comfortable, big.

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Speaker 3: It's like traveling couch that my grandmother had in her

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Speaker 3: house and we can't get rid of it. It's like

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Speaker 3: a purple couch, and purple was her favorite color. So

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Speaker 3: it's just like rotating from like storage unit to like house.

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Speaker 3: You have the heart to like do anything with this.

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Speaker 4: Someone's got to design like a whole room just around

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Speaker 4: this purple couch.

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Speaker 1: Surely, So you're from a big Italian family? Nice?

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Speaker 2: Sure are?

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Speaker 1: What's your favorite what's your favorite Italian food? Your favorite dish?

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Speaker 2: Well?

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Speaker 3: I go between couch a pepe and I love a

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Speaker 3: good chicken palm. So this depends on how hungry I are.

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Speaker 4: Do you speak any Italian or does anyone in your family?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: Not really, to be honest, I have a couple, we

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Speaker 3: have a couple of people that do because we go

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Speaker 3: to this small town in Italy every few years, and

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Speaker 3: so we just are all duck behind the few that

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Speaker 2: But I've been on duo lingo and I got a

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Speaker 2: pretty good streak going.

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Speaker 4: Oh get it?

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Speaker 1: We were When Serena and I were in Italy for

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Speaker 1: a honeymoon.

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Speaker 4: I was speaking no Joe would tell Joe's Italian. He

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Speaker 4: doesn't speak a liak of Italian, no one in his

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Speaker 4: family does. And we were in Italy and they would

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Speaker 4: be like, oh. He'd be like, oh a Mobeli, like

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Speaker 4: you're Italian? Do you speak any Italian? And he would

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Speaker 4: say a little bit like in French. You were like,

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Speaker 4: and I'm like, first of all, that's not Italian. Tek A, well,

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Speaker 4: you don't speak a little Italian. You know they're gonna

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Speaker 4: start talking. You're not gonna know what they're saying.

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Speaker 2: Take it to them.

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Speaker 1: They know.

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Speaker 4: They'd be like, okay, so you're lying.

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Speaker 1: So, Juliana, how did you get on the Bachelor?

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Speaker 3: So a couple of years ago, my sister and I

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Speaker 3: started to do you know, Monday Wine Night, and we

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Speaker 3: were just watching a few seasons and somewhere along the

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Speaker 3: way she signed me up and never told me so.

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Speaker 3: So I got a call this past like April, and

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Speaker 3: you know, it took me off guard and they asked

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Speaker 3: if I'd ever been interested, and my sister signed me up,

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Speaker 3: and I just.

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Speaker 2: I was kind of like fifty to fifty at first.

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Speaker 3: And I just thought there was you know, no harm

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Speaker 3: in going through the process, and ultimately it panned out.

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Speaker 1: And then I was on what was dating life like

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Speaker 1: for you before going on?

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Speaker 3: Uh, very minimal, not too much happening in the relationship standpoint.

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Speaker 3: I'm I don't really love first dates and I don't

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Speaker 3: love second dates. So I was kind of just doing

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Speaker 3: my thing. But I was on the dating apps and

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Speaker 3: swiping for fun. It's like online shopping.

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Speaker 4: This is a good show for you. Then like if

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Speaker 4: you're like I don't like that, like initial like oh

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Speaker 4: like texting, got to get to know them, Like this

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Speaker 4: really is a good process for you.

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Speaker 2: Ye, I was speed dating.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you have any any guys in your

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Speaker 1: past that you think, like, watch the show and like

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Speaker 1: what the fuck she's what's she doing on here?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I'm friends on social media with some

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Speaker 3: they're rooting for me and all good. Everything ended well,

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Speaker 3: you know, I never ghosted anybody.

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Speaker 2: I just I just was like, you know, this isn't

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Speaker 2: for me.

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Speaker 1: You've never you've never ghosted anyone ever?

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Speaker 3: Oh, I probably ghosted somebody at some point. Yeah, just yeah,

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Speaker 3: some people. I probably was like walked down that first

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Speaker 3: date and was like block number delete. Yeah again done

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Speaker 3: with yel Yeah.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's get into the show. How did you

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Speaker 4: decide on your night one dress, your night one introduction

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Speaker 4: with Graham, all the things?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so my sister helped me with all of my dresses,

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Speaker 3: like all my outfits. She we did sticky notes, and.

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Speaker 2: She basically packed my suitcase for me.

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Speaker 3: So I felt really good in that department and I

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Speaker 3: went in with an idea, but me ultimately, my producer

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Speaker 3: and I kind of worked to tie in a couple

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Speaker 3: of like aspects of myself, Like I'm known for loving

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Speaker 3: a good sweet treat and I'm Italian, and so we

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Speaker 3: just tried to combine the two and we came up

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Speaker 3: with a canoli and uh wanted to give him a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, super cute. And then what was your first impression

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Speaker 4: of Grant? Was he kind of what you expected?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: I I for sure like blacked out the minute I

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Speaker 3: got out of the Uber, I mean the uber, the

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Speaker 3: limb full of it were black, Yeah, uber.

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Speaker 1: Black to the house an uber.

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Speaker 3: I probably should have, but yeah, no, he was looks wise,

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Speaker 3: you know, everything that I was excited for. And then

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Speaker 3: I anticipated, which took.

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Speaker 2: My breath away a little bit.

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Speaker 3: But I think one of the coolest things was like

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Speaker 3: when I was talking to him, I could just tell

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Speaker 2: Was a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Were you at all worried that first night that you

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Speaker 1: could potentially go home? Yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 3: But it's not until I think the rose ceremony that

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Speaker 3: there's so much happening and you're also getting to know

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Speaker 3: that first night, it's it's so many emotions that you

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Speaker 3: grapple with of like, you know, your ego and your

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Speaker 3: if I go home, I think I'll feel like embarrassed

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Speaker 2: First things that I think I would feel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 2: No shame to the night one go homes.

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Speaker 4: But Joe went home Night one. You're like, yeah, it

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Speaker 4: is embarrassing. I'm speaking from experience, just shitting on that night.

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Speaker 1: Want, Well, if any of the Night one people come

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Speaker 1: for me, then they'll they'll figure out that I want

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Speaker 1: home night one.

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Speaker 2: You know. Yeah, but you know what, everything happens for

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Speaker 2: everything that was for a reason.

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Speaker 4: How was your first conversation that first night with Grant?

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Speaker 2: It was good? It was good, you know, I was.

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Speaker 3: I was having the worst time of my life trying

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Speaker 3: to play the piano. I will admit that, you know,

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Speaker 3: because I don't really know how to play. I just

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Speaker 3: taught myself Moonlight sonata.

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, it's like.

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Speaker 1: What that's how I speak Italian?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like a big piano player.

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Speaker 3: And then all of a sudden, I was trying to

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Speaker 2: It was good.

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Speaker 3: It kind of was the initial feeling of like, oh wow,

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Speaker 3: we can be kind of goofy together.

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Speaker 2: So I walked away feeling really good.

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Speaker 4: That's so funny because I played chess on night one

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Speaker 4: that was like my activity, and I had said like, yeah, no,

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Speaker 4: like I've played chess before. We got like a big

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Speaker 4: But I was like, you know what, it's okay, Like

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Speaker 4: he's not here looking for a chess player, and I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like that's I'm going to take that off my

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Speaker 3: resume moving forward.

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to tell anybody.

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Speaker 1: That what girls did you click with from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: and that any of those girls stick around to being

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Speaker 2: That's okay, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, yeah, you know, night one, me and Ali Joe

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Speaker 2: But I'd like to think.

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Speaker 3: That me and a lot of the girls ended up

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Speaker 3: having really good relationships, and I hope, you know, we

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Speaker 2: After the show.

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Speaker 3: I did get really close with Vicky and Parisa, And

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Speaker 3: as you get deeper and deeper into the process and

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Speaker 3: there's fewer and fewer of you, you kind of start

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Speaker 3: to lean on people that maybe you didn't initially, you know,

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Speaker 3: close with Sara, Fina and Letia and uh. I think

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Speaker 3: that they'll I hope that they'll be lifelong friends.

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Speaker 1: Nice.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it's such a special bond, especially

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Speaker 4: when when you first come off the show and it's airing,

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Speaker 4: if it's only for a season of life, but you

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Speaker 4: do have this like really intense shared experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and especially in the aftermath of it, having people

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Speaker 3: Because I can talk to my friends and my family

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Speaker 4: From hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Different for sure. Well, did you watch the show before

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Speaker 1: Any season that you would say has been your favorite, I.

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Speaker 4: Interesting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And so as a viewer, you know, watching her

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Speaker 4: All right, let's fly through a little bit of the

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, wait real quick before we do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I go off. What's it been like watching yourself back?

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Speaker 1: Has that been weird? Are you been? Is that something

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Speaker 3: It's weird, for sure, it's cringey. You know, you're your

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Speaker 2: Just too serious to take seriously.

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Speaker 2: It too, because we can laugh together.

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Speaker 3: And it's also been a really good opportunity to see

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Speaker 2: So it's it's weird.

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Speaker 3: It's definitely like a kind of like something I wish

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Speaker 3: it's it's helpful if you allow it to be.

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Speaker 4: How's your family watching you kiss a boy.

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Speaker 1: We do Seeah, we do see in that, we do see.

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Speaker 1: You can't you can't spoil it. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: Just did you just kiss my daughter? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: He it's hard for them, not hard, but it's different

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Speaker 2: But also I haven't brought like I've never brought a

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Speaker 3: That's only happened once in my life, and so they've

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Speaker 3: My parents are like, what the hell is happening? Even

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Speaker 3: like it's cringey for me. I can't imagine how god

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Speaker 3: I begged them to, like promise me that if it

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Speaker 4: Close your eyes, look away, look away.

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Speaker 2: Yep, never happened. Don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 4: That's so funny. Anything since watching it back happened on

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: I feel like because it's a smaller cast the season,

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Speaker 4: that doesn't happen as much.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it really didn't.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we had such a from my perspective, really

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Speaker 3: you know, I don't think anyone really had any sort

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Speaker 2: Very minimal. So yeah, nothing really surprised me.

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Speaker 3: The Lama was like probably one of the most surprising

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Speaker 4: I forgot you were the one. He said that too.

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Speaker 4: That was so funny.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like said that, and I was like, okay, cool,

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Speaker 3: And then you're like, what did he just say to me, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You're like, what a weird joke? And I was like, wait,

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Speaker 1: Jumping to some of the conflicts and drama in the house,

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Speaker 1: I would.

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Speaker 4: Says, maybe start with the start with.

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Speaker 4: You were on both the you were on the basketball

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Speaker 4: So in your eyes, were you surprised on that first

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Speaker 4: Like here we go, like it's all happening.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if surprised is the word, because I

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Speaker 2: Gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: But I will say is that, like the amount of

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Speaker 2: So I know that that's kind of what ruffled a

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Speaker 3: And then just like the way she came back in

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Speaker 3: But you know it's fine, Like not everybody is going

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so usually when that should happen into it like

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Speaker 4: Away as episode two.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like after a little bit it went away.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was kind of like it that happened right

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Speaker 3: So we tried to sort it out that night and

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Speaker 3: And so when she when Grant came back in and

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you were the one you to the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, sat up our TV, our TV watching.

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Speaker 3: And then she opened up and talked about, you know,

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Speaker 2: To hearing like all of a sudden we were belittling.

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Speaker 3: It was like we were just trying to figure out

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Speaker 2: I guess yeah and yeah.

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Speaker 3: And then and then it just kind of like after that,

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Speaker 3: And that felt like, you know, full loss, because then

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Speaker 2: I don't think any of us would have been able

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Speaker 4: Last Yeah, it probably just felt like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: So then so you and Zoe both make it to hometowns,

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Speaker 1: After all that?

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Speaker 3: I mean it was after the basketball date, we resolved things,

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Speaker 3: After the finance date, you know, we resolved things too.

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Speaker 3: It was like we don't have to be friends, you know,

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Speaker 3: we don't have to even really agree with each other.

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Speaker 2: We just have to be cordial and.

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Speaker 3: We have to understand that, like there are multiple people

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Speaker 2: That on us all the time. And it was good

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Okay, so here comes Carolina and oh Carolina and

448
00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,280
Speaker 1: roh Yeah, yeah, yeah, I guess like what's your point

449
00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:25,040
Speaker 1: of view on the whole Carolina situation or do you

450
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 1: want to do you want to do part by part?

451
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 4: Let's do Carolena and Rose first and then we'll jump.

452
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:36,000
Speaker 1: To okay, Carolina and Rose. Because here as a viewer

453
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,959
Speaker 1: and I was like kind of recapping the show and

454
00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: watching the show, it's kind of like you feel bad

455
00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 1: for Rose, but in the same breath, you're kind of like,

456
00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,720
Speaker 1: why would you tell Like, in my opinion, like why

457
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: would you tell Carolina that Grant said that?

458
00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 4: Like why why see that conversation?

459
00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, like why give up that information? Because really, that's

460
00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 1: that's hurting you, no matter what way you look at it,

461
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: by releasing that to Grant.

462
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 2: I know.

463
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so tricky because I remember it was prom

464
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 3: night and I saw Carolina having kind of a long

465
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 3: conversation with Grant, and I forget who I was talking to,

466
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 3: But my perspective was like, you know, oh good, let

467
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,919
Speaker 3: her have this long conversation. She's probably talking about all

468
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 3: the insecurities she talked to us about NonStop when she

469
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:36,000
Speaker 3: came home from the date, and she might either finish

470
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 3: that conversation and like leave, or she might stop having

471
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,520
Speaker 3: all these doubts, and then the conversations with us will.

472
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: Be better.

473
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 3: Because we had I don't think any of the girls

474
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 3: had any idea that that had happened, you know, behind.

475
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,280
Speaker 2: Between her and Carolina and so oh interesting.

476
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:58,920
Speaker 4: She hadn't mentioned it to anyone of like, oh my god,

477
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 4: guess what Rose said to melast Night.

478
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,720
Speaker 2: No. I don't think so, because we were all kind

479
00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 2: of like, what is she talking about? I was the

480
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 2: one being like.

481
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 3: All our insecurities that she's been talking to us about,

482
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 3: so like, let it happen?

483
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: Were her insecurities, her insecurity, like her being insecure if

484
00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: like Grant was into her, or her being.

485
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we're hearing a lot on the show of like

486
00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 4: her negive, Like we're hearing vague statements of like her

487
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,200
Speaker 4: insecurity is her negative comments? But like, could you give

488
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 4: us a little yeah, just like like what more specifically

489
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 4: was it?

490
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

491
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: You know.

492
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: The tricky thing is that obviously a lot of conversations

493
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 3: do tend to happen off camera, and I don't know

494
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 3: if that's intentional for these reasons or not, but you know,

495
00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 3: I don't want to necessarily play telephone.

496
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 2: But there were, from my eyes, some doubts about who

497
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:56,240
Speaker 2: he was as a person and the process, which is

498
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 2: fine and fair, but you kind of have to accept

499
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 2: that going into it, and you can have doubts, but

500
00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,679
Speaker 2: to constantly tear down what we're all also here to

501
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: do is hard to hear.

502
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,560
Speaker 1: And just doubts about, like like going on American Idol

503
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,520
Speaker 1: and being like, this is a singing competition, Like.

504
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,239
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, because I don't even know if

505
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 3: I could sing, and you were like, well, then why'd

506
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,000
Speaker 3: you come?

507
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 2: You know, It's like you can do your best, you know, but.

508
00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 3: You can also opt out if you realize it's not

509
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 3: for you and nobody will judge you. So I think

510
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 3: hearing the things about Grant that we did, especially when

511
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,199
Speaker 3: she was the one who had kind of one of

512
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 3: the only few people who had alone time with him,

513
00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: we're all trying to make sense of, you know, this

514
00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: process and him as a person, and we're kind of

515
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 3: taking what people are saying and making our own judgments.

516
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 3: So to hear negativity about him when we haven't had

517
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,600
Speaker 3: a chance to really get to know him is hard

518
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 3: because then you're maybe more reserved than you already were,

519
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 3: or you're not ready to like open up, or you

520
00:24:55,960 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 3: don't trust him because of somebody else's you know, emotions,

521
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 3: and uh so it's tricky, you know it art and

522
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 3: it was it was just really negative all the time.

523
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: Gotcha, that's that's helpful context for sure. So she comes

524
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 4: back from her conversation with Grant, and I'm assuming Grant

525
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:18,399
Speaker 4: then pulls Rose right away and does it kind of

526
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 4: start to unfold within the house of what's happening?

527
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was sitting next to Rose and he came

528
00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: in hot and he was like, Rose, can I talk

529
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 3: to you?

530
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 2: And I kind of like looked at her, like, oh wow.

531
00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 4: He's like you let's go outside, dude.

532
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 2: I looked at him and I was like, oh, like,

533
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 2: he's not He's not really happy. He doesn't look like happy.

534
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 3: And uh when she left, we were all kind of like, ooh,

535
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 3: what's happening? And then I think, you know, that's when

536
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: the game of telephone started happening, and girls were kind

537
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 3: of finding out little pieces of info and we were

538
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 3: putting things together, and I was just like, oh shit.

539
00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: My initial reaction was the same. It's like, Rose, why

540
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 3: would you say that? You know what, what possibly did

541
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: you think was gonna happen that could have a positive

542
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 3: impact on yourself, him, Carolina or the group by like

543
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:15,040
Speaker 3: speaking that into existence. And I said that to her

544
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 3: right after the Rose ceremony. I was kind of you know,

545
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 3: I I lost my composure for a second and I

546
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 3: was like, what are you doing?

547
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 2: Girl?

548
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,439
Speaker 3: And uh, then I think you start to kind of

549
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 3: get to know people's personalities more. And I don't think

550
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: Rose had a single ounce of like malicious intent. I

551
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760
Speaker 3: think that she thought she was being provided with a

552
00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,639
Speaker 3: safe space to have a girl to girl conversation in

553
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 3: a way that compartmentalized her friendship over the over the relationship,

554
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 3: and ultimately I think she got burned because of it

555
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 3: because she maybe trusted the wrong wrong person or people.

556
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 4: That's so hard. It was unfortunate because we did like Rose,

557
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 4: and I mean we still like Rose, but it just

558
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 4: like that incident, once it happened, it was going to

559
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 4: be really hard for her to come back from.

560
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't I don't think there's really any any

561
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 3: coming back from that.

562
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:10,919
Speaker 2: In the short amount of time that you have.

563
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 3: If you're trying to dig yourself out of a hole

564
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: during that time, it's like it's almost useless.

565
00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, you just don't have enough time on this show

566
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,919
Speaker 4: to dig yourself out of a hole, you know, like, yeah, you're.

567
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's talk about you now we It's you know,

568
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,520
Speaker 1: it's the the day or week before hometowns. You guys

569
00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: are in Edinburgh at this point, you haven't had a

570
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,479
Speaker 1: one on one. Where is your mindset with where you

571
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 1: stand with Grant going into Edinburgh?

572
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 3: Well, I remember one of me and Grant's first conversations.

573
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: I had told him, you know, I was like, do

574
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: not give me a one on one too early, because

575
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 3: like I won't open up, and I'm.

576
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 4: Literally really yeah.

577
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 2: And then so then we're like, you know, we leave Scotland,

578
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 2: and I was like.

579
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 3: Shit, like I think I think I messed that up

580
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,359
Speaker 3: because you know, I don't even know if.

581
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: I'm going to get one night. You mean Madrid leaving Madrid?

582
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, And I was like, oh my gosh,

583
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: like I definitely like screwed this one up. I probably

584
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 3: should have kept my mouth shut and just let him

585
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 3: do what he thought was best. And I was panicked

586
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,840
Speaker 3: because I thought kind of going into Madrid, I was like.

587
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it's going to be my time to shine.

588
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 2: He's keeping me around for a reason.

589
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: And then you.

590
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:35,280
Speaker 3: Know you're like, Wow, we've won more chance before hometowns,

591
00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: And I didn't know if I was even going to

592
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: be able to go to hometowns, if I didn't have

593
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 3: that one on one time, or if he was going

594
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: to even be able to see.

595
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: That like future with me.

596
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 4: That's so interesting because we literally just talked about this

597
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 4: on our recap, and I think in Madrid I had said,

598
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 4: like I thought this might be like I thought Juliana

599
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 4: might get the date this week, and we were just

600
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 4: saying I was like, I don't know, like what happened,

601
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 4: but like this is a late date, Like it's not

602
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 4: a good sign, Like I don't know how this has

603
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 4: happened that like you know.

604
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: It's taking yourself out of the game. If I, if

605
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: I was granted, I would have been I would have

606
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: fucked with you, for sure. I would have been like

607
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,640
Speaker 1: I chose someone up that could have been you, and

608
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: I would have just walked away.

609
00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 4: I could have been you.

610
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 2: Oh. I was definitely like shaking in my boots for sure.

611
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 4: But it seems like as much as it probably provoked

612
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 4: some anxiety in Madrid, it may be paid off in

613
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 4: the long run because you did get the chance to

614
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 4: open up and maybe you wouldn't have felt comfortable if

615
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 4: you've gotten like a week two, week three date.

616
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, and and it's a it's a funny position to

617
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: be in. But honestly, I think the later one on

618
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 3: ones are a little bit better because you have such

619
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 3: a good If you have such a good time and

620
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 3: you are able to kind of like get deeper, then

621
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,800
Speaker 3: moving forward there's less and less girls, so you know,

622
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: you get more time to continue, you know, to work

623
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 3: on that where in the beginning, it's like you feel

624
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 3: for girls who get the first one on one because

625
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 3: then kind of like the rest of the time they're

626
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: watching other people get those opportunities, and you're back in

627
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: a group setting in the minimal cocktail date night time

628
00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 3: and rose ceremony time, and you depend on like those

629
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 3: moments to build on a relationship that you had a

630
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 3: whole like day date and night portion to really kind

631
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: of like get into.

632
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, you essentially never had to go from a one

633
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 4: on one back to a group date. Yeah, you got

634
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: your one. It was like group dates and then one

635
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: on one dates. That's nice, Yeah, that is nice.

636
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a good feeling.

637
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you get this princess dress up date. How

638
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 4: do you feel about the activity? How's it going with Grant?

639
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: It's going really good with Grant.

640
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 3: You know, I think this was definitely one of the

641
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 3: times where we just had fun during the day portion.

642
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 2: For sure, we kind of just you know.

643
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: In the little moments that you do have when you're

644
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 3: not you know, having a deep conversation or you know,

645
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 3: you're kind of switching up scenes or settings, you kind

646
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 3: of just get to know somebody in in those like

647
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: little moments a lot more so I started to feel

648
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 3: really comfortable with him, and so, you know, not to

649
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: say that things were just.

650
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: Like surface level, but it was more like a let's

651
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 2: just have.

652
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 3: Fun because we don't know what's going to happen, and

653
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 3: let's try to enjoy each other's company and see if

654
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: this is something that you know, could could.

655
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: Actually really work on the outside world. Then we did that,

656
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 2: you know.

657
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: We we did a little dress up, we uh, you know,

658
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: drink some champagne. We got to like dance, you know,

659
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 3: and on a red car.

660
00:31:47,760 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: How awkward.

661
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: Sow And the worst with those dates is you're like,

662
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 4: I don't want to do this, but at the same time,

663
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,480
Speaker 4: like the sooner we get this done, the sooner it's over.

664
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 4: The sooner we nail this dance scene, the sooner we

665
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 4: can stop dancing.

666
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: Yes, I was like praying that, you know, my date

667
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 3: was not gonna involve one of those like you know,

668
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 3: uh singers or artists and it's just YouTube. Ah, I'm

669
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: so awkward and like I don't know how to dance,

670
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: and so I was just like, that's probably not for me.

671
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 2: But luckily we had you know, professional dancers around us,

672
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 2: and I hope that they you know, they were still

673
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: in the show.

674
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, so they killed it.

675
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. See that's the that's the like Paradise, like how

676
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: you explained, like you know, between sets and like being

677
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: able to like get to know somebody that way, Like

678
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Paradise is the opposite, like you actually get to know

679
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: somebody like all day and then like those on screen

680
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: moments are kind of like I.

681
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 4: Would I would flip what you're saying and say, like

682
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 4: the in between moments that you get on Bachelor and

683
00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: Bachelorette is like most of your time on Pair and Ice.

684
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 1: First, that's what I said.

685
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 4: I know that's what you meant. I don't know if

686
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 4: that's what you said. That's fair following now, Yeah, yeah,

687
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 4: and then we go into the night portion and you

688
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 4: open up about your experience having someone close to you

689
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 4: in your life deal with substance abuse, which is something

690
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 4: that Grant can relate to. He's been very open about

691
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: his father struggles and how that's impacted his family's relationship.

692
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 4: Was it comforting opening up to him about that, knowing

693
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 4: that he was hopefully going to have a deeper level

694
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 4: of understanding.

695
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I truthfully, when I listened to his interview before

696
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 3: coming on Coming on the season, that was one of

697
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 3: the things that I found most endearing about him was

698
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: that he knows what it's like to love somebody and

699
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 3: watch them struggle with that.

700
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 2: But rather than you know, there's no rulebook for.

701
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: Handling substance abuse, there's no right or wrong way, and

702
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 3: everybody you know handles things differently. But to see him,

703
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 3: like see love, be at the forefront of how he

704
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 3: was viewing it and handling it, that to me meant everything,

705
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: because you know, that's how myself and my big family

706
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,759
Speaker 3: kind of went into that and it paid off well

707
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: for us. It doesn't always pay off, but to have

708
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,320
Speaker 3: somebody that had been through that and handled it similarly,

709
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: I felt really comfortable talking talking to him about it.

710
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: So do you think you're did that make your relationship

711
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: stronger after that conversation and just after your entire one

712
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 1: on one.

713
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: I think so.

714
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: I think that you know, you see somebody in interviews

715
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 3: or you see the way they talk about it, you know,

716
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 3: to to other people, but to have that conversation with

717
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,840
Speaker 3: somebody who's also been through it and be able to

718
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: connect on that. And one of the one of the

719
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 3: biggest things too about it is you know, when you're

720
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 3: go going through that in your you kind of isolate yourself,

721
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 3: whether that's by choice or by circumstance. Being able to

722
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 3: find the strength and the determination to dig yourself out

723
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,800
Speaker 3: of it.

724
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 2: Is really powerful.

725
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 3: And to me, that's a characteristic of him or character

726
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 3: trait of him that I got to really understand, and

727
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 3: that for me was enough to be like, Okay, another checkbox,

728
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 3: Like he's a good one.

729
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 2: I want I want to keep them.

730
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: Going into your one on one date, where would you

731
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 4: say your relationship was that? And then leaving your one

732
00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 4: on one date, how are you feeling about everything.

733
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,480
Speaker 2: Going into it?

734
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: Nerve wracking because you know, you kind of have We've

735
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: had we had a really good base I will say that,

736
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 3: you know, we have had we had really good conversations.

737
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: Some were just silly and lighthearted and some were really serious.

738
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 3: But you know, for the most part it was I

739
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 3: was still trying to understand if I really like him,

740
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,760
Speaker 3: and so leaving the one on one, I felt sure

741
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: about him as a person from the conversations we had,

742
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 3: and you know, I don't think anybody's perfect, but I

743
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 3: think that he is, you know, a really well rounded, compassionate,

744
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 3: caring man, and that was the type of person I

745
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: wanted a future with.

746
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 2: So I felt secure.

747
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,920
Speaker 1: Were you at this point, now we're pretty deep into it,

748
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Are you starting to compare your relationship to the relationship

749
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:32,760
Speaker 1: of the other girls with him? Like, is there anyone

750
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 1: you're worried about at this point?

751
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 3: I tried to really just compartmentalize that with the girls,

752
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: and I pride myself that I feel.

753
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,760
Speaker 2: Like I did a really good job.

754
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: I was always able to listen when girls wanted to

755
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 3: talk about their time, and I never took it personally

756
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 3: because I, like I said, I'm a bit of a

757
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 3: slow burn, So I'm never the one that kind of

758
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 3: just like latches onto somebody and gets jealous.

759
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm kind of like we're all dating him, we all

760
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 2: kind of like him. You know, what did you like

761
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 2: and what did you dislike?

762
00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 3: And I kind of took that back with me and

763
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 3: and tried to kind of save it for for future

764
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: use informing.

765
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 2: My own opinion.

766
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: So I was never really like intimidated or nervous by

767
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 3: anybody's relationship, but I definitely saw what I felt is

768
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 3: some relationships were stronger than than others. And you try

769
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 3: to resonate with the girls in terms of like, oh,

770
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: you know, if like, am I like her? You know,

771
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 3: is he is he going to make sense for me?

772
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: But not necessarily by like intimidation, it's just in comparison,

773
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,160
Speaker 3: by nature of the circumstances.

774
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 4: What I was waiting to see if you were gonna

775
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: ask her, if I was gonna ask, well, I was.

776
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,719
Speaker 1: Gonna what I was going to ask? Well, we'll both well,

777
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,799
Speaker 1: we'll both present our questions and you choose which one.

778
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: No, no, no, you go you go?

779
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 1: Was there were you were you at all surprised by

780
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: who we chose to take the hometowns? Was there anyone

781
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:02,279
Speaker 1: that went home that you were like, huh and see

782
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: that coming?

783
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Natalie going home was like a big

784
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,000
Speaker 3: one for me. Parisa even going home. I got really

785
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 3: close with Parisa and I loved, you know, everything about her.

786
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,759
Speaker 3: And so it's just like, like I said, you kind

787
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:18,879
Speaker 3: of start to resonate with certain girls, and you wonder

788
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,839
Speaker 3: where his head's at if he's sending some home and

789
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 3: not others. And you know, we're all we were all

790
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 3: really like amazing girls and beautiful inside and out. But

791
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: it's still the people that you see maybe a little

792
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 3: bit of yourself in that when they get sent home,

793
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:36,759
Speaker 3: you kind of feel like, oh shit, like what is

794
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,360
Speaker 3: he thinking?

795
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 2: And am I next?

796
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 4: So we just saw Carolina, Sara, Fina, and Alex. Alex

797
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:55,719
Speaker 4: just got sent holme.

798
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:59,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so out of those women were you were you had?

799
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: Also did you think like maybe Dina was not going

800
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: to make it and Alex was or anything like that.

801
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: No, I think I felt I felt pretty good about, like,

802
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 3: you know, him keeping a Dina and Letia. Those made

803
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 3: sense to me. Obviously he's got a tough position to make.

804
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 3: But Zoe not having one on one time, Yeah, that

805
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,479
Speaker 3: to me was like surprising because I was like, Wow,

806
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 3: their connection must be so strong in the small amount

807
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: of time that they got that he didn't even feel

808
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: like he needed that additional time.

809
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: And that was a surprise to me.

810
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 3: Not that I didn't like see their connection, but obviously

811
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,360
Speaker 3: Zoe was not really like opening up to the group,

812
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: so she was very closed off, so you don't really

813
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 3: know kind of what was happening behind closed doors with her,

814
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 3: And so it definitely that took me by surprise.

815
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 4: No, that took us by surprise too for the exact

816
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 4: same reason, just like, oh wow, like the connection must

817
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 4: be strong based on like the fact she didn't get

818
00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 4: a one on one she's still going to hometowns.

819
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, totally.

820
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 4: I want want to quickly ask you not to take

821
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 4: it off the love and bring it back to the drama.

822
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: But you were like had a little moment with Carolina

823
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 4: and then we saw you talk to Grant about that. Yeah,

824
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 4: were you nervous at all to bring that to him?

825
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 4: For what that may have meant for your relationship with him,

826
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 4: your relationship in the house. I know that can be

827
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 4: like a scary position to be in.

828
00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 3: Okay, Well I want to I would like to say

829
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 3: with that is you know, I think if you really

830
00:40:33,400 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: rewind and watched the conversation that I had with with

831
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 3: Carolina initially and how I started it. I truly went

832
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: in there with the intention of having a girl to

833
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 3: girl respectful conversation and bring up.

834
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 2: That the fact that her her words and her.

835
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 3: Actions were having a negative effect on the people around her,

836
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 3: because I did not think that she was aware of that,

837
00:40:57,239 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 3: and it was in her response to me is what

838
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 3: made it feel and look more like a confrontation than

839
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,839
Speaker 3: what was ever intended. Gotch And so then my conversation

840
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: with Grant, you know, a like I said, there's a

841
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,439
Speaker 3: lot of things that happened behind closed doors, and I'm

842
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 3: not a liar, and there's truth in what I said,

843
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: But I thought that my game plan going into the

844
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 3: night was that I was not going to bring it

845
00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: up to him, and I wasn't going to bring it up,

846
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: you know, ever again to the other girls.

847
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 2: He wanted to address it, and it was it.

848
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: I felt it would be doing him a disservice if

849
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: I didn't at least try to present the facts that

850
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 3: I knew, not any of the hearsay, not any of

851
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 3: the telephone, just things that I knew that had been

852
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 3: said about him and his character and how it was

853
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 3: affecting the group and that to me is true to

854
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 3: who I am. So you know, that's just a little

855
00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 3: taste of it. And if he didn't like that, then

856
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 3: it was probably for the best of us.

857
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: You know. I went home.

858
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 3: Because I'll never not speak truthfully and stand on my

859
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 3: own business.

860
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: But I will also never.

861
00:42:09,480 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 3: Poke my neck into situations that don't necessarily require my words.

862
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 4: Well. Yeah, and if he's asking you, you're obviously going

863
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, well, you're asking me a direct question.

864
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,800
Speaker 4: I am going to give you my most honest answer

865
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 4: because you're asking me for information, and I'm gonna I'm

866
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 4: not gonna lie or say something that don't feels true.

867
00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I would never intentionally try to paint somebody

868
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: in a negative light. You know. Obviously things are cut

869
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 3: and clipped as to you know, the story that needs

870
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 3: to be told, and that's fine.

871
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: And what was shown did come out of my mouth.

872
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 2: I think that there's just a.

873
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: Lot more to the story, but that I was able

874
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 3: to provide him some clarity in that.

875
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: On a scale one through ten ten being love, one

876
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,960
Speaker 1: being hate, Carolina fall on.

877
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: That show, that's such an aggressive question.

878
00:43:05,120 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I think that right now Carolina and

879
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 3: I are in a very similar position that we've opened

880
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 3: ourselves up to public judgment and some people are going

881
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: to agree with her and disagree with me, and vice versa.

882
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 3: But the one thing that I would never do is

883
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 3: try to bring an additional negativity her way, knowing that

884
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: it could hurt her. I wasn't trying to tear her

885
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 3: down in the conversation when I pulled her one on one,

886
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 3: and I'm not trying to tear her down now, and

887
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,480
Speaker 3: I will never try to tear her down because I

888
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 3: respect her as a person and a human. I just

889
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 3: don't have to like her, and that's fine and that's fair,

890
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 3: and that's how I feel about it.

891
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: Okay, so you hate.

892
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: Wait?

893
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 4: Wait, may I ask? Is that the motivation for the

894
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: be nice T shirt you're wearing today? For everyone listening,

895
00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 4: Juliana's wearing a white T shirt and a black letters

896
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 4: that says be nice?

897
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 2: I think you know.

898
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: One of the one of the biggest things that I

899
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: try to pride myself in is the quote that my

900
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 3: grandmother used to say, and she instilled in my entire

901
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 3: family's life. And I have a tattooed on me, and

902
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 3: it says, it's nice to be nice and you know,

903
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 3: life is just way too hard and it's too serious

904
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 3: to spread anything but kindness. And you know, the people

905
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 3: that deserve to be loved the least need to be

906
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 3: loved the most. So be nice, bitches.

907
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 4: Love it.

908
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I love that.

909
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: Okay, before and play a quick game with you. Okay,

910
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: before we do, going into quick question, what do you

911
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:40,880
Speaker 1: most worried about going into hometowns with Grant meeting your

912
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: family or not worried maybe just nervous.

913
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like when I tell you my family is like

914
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: loud and crazy and they just like if they don't

915
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 3: know you, they will have you come sit for you

916
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 3: a drink and ask you your life story. I didn't

917
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 3: know if that was going to be overwhelming, and knowing

918
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 3: he was also meeting three other women's families, like I

919
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 3: didn't want him to feel like it was too much

920
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: and I had no idea like who was really gonna

921
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 3: like show up and show their you know, loudness out

922
00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: and say something out of pocket.

923
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 2: And I was just I was so nervous about that, Like.

924
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 3: I love my family and so going into this, it

925
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 3: was like you have to love these people because if

926
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,879
Speaker 3: you love me, you're gonna love them and they will

927
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 3: love you right back.

928
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 2: But we're not for everybody, and that's okay.

929
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: I feel you, yeah, I feel you there. Okay, we're

930
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: gonna play a quick game, rapid fire. Get to know Juliana.

931
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 1: It's just Juliana. Okay. First thing that comes to your head.

932
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: What is your dream vacation destination?

933
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,760
Speaker 2: I want to go to sicily.

934
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: Favorite comfort movie or TV show?

935
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Step Up?

936
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 1: How do you want step Up?

937
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 3: Oh?

938
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: That was a throwback, asked, I was not expecting that.

939
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: How do you unwind after a long.

940
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 2: Day a glass of cabsov What is.

941
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 1: Your love language.

942
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 2: Love letters?

943
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 1: What is your favorite home cooked meal?

944
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: Uh?

945
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 2: Pasta and turkey meatballs from my sister.

946
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 1: What is your go to drink at a bar?

947
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: A dirty extra dirty martini with jin Hendricks? Please?

948
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 1: What is someone who is someone? I just had one

949
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 1: of those. Who is someone that inspires you?

950
00:46:39,160 --> 00:46:40,400
Speaker 2: My grandmother? Olympia?

951
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: What music artists would you love to see perform live?

952
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 3: I don't really like concerts, but I feel like uh,

953
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 3: Teddy swims like that.

954
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,440
Speaker 1: If you were stranded on a deserted island and you

955
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: could only bring two girls from your season, who would

956
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: you bring?

957
00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 3: Ali, Joe and Parisa? Because priests would take care of

958
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: all the all the bugs.

959
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:14,360
Speaker 1: What is a piece of advice you've never forgotten.

960
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,759
Speaker 3: When life gives you hell, just keep going because why

961
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: would you ever want to stay in hell?

962
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: What are three essentials you always have in your purse?

963
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 3: Chapstick, a little perfume, and extra contacts because I'm blind?

964
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,200
Speaker 1: And if you could describe Grant season in one word,

965
00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:44,879
Speaker 1: what would it be?

966
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: Eventful?

967
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 4: Eventful? It has been eventful.

968
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,879
Speaker 1: Juliana, thank you so much for coming on Bachelor Happy

969
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 1: Hour and taking the time. It was really great interviewing

970
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: you and getting to know you.

971
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,360
Speaker 2: Thank you guys for having me. I appreciate it.

972
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: And thank you everyone for tuning in the best for

973
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Make sure you download and subscribe.

974
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 4: Don't forget to watch Juliana and the other women on

975
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,880
Speaker 4: Grant's Hometown episode coming up, and thank you for listening.

976
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Speaker 1: Bye.