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Speaker 1: Today there's some of the stuff going on, it's kind

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Speaker 1: going to weave my way around. The most recent news,

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Speaker 1: as General Keene suggested on Fox a while ago, because

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Speaker 1: is For example, in all of the bombardment by Hamas

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Speaker 1: and it made Biden look like he was the supplicant

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Speaker 1: So if the Chinese are dedicated to building a tremendous

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy became the Speaker designate. There were thirty five

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Speaker 1: the eighth very narrow Congress since nineteen sixteen. In fact,

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Speaker 1: So it's going to be a lively field. Good evening,

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Speaker 1: the current representatives. Thanks sir, that's very flattering. I would

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Speaker 1: probably single out at Senator McConnell. He refused to have

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Speaker 1: what I think a real review would require. The fact

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Speaker 1: So you've got to go back exactly as you said,

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Speaker 1: Biden held an hour long press conference and said flatly

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Speaker 1: Governor Ron De Santis's reelection seemed to be a massive

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Speaker 1: from his success? DeSantis has done an amazing job, and

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