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Speaker 2: And yesterday's Jess with the Mess, we talked about Tank

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, take the boxing Tank.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Fante Davis.

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Speaker 2: For all of us that are close to Baltimore, Delaware, Philly,

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Speaker 1: Gervonte Davis.

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Speaker 2: Now, a lot of people were like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: that's cap He is not retiring, It's not happening.

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Speaker 1: But he talked a bit more about why.

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Speaker 2: He is making the decision after a few fights to

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Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: That's why I don't want box no more. I want

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Speaker 4: to do therapy right but I feelished though if I

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Speaker 4: do therapy, it would lose the fire that I have

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Speaker 4: and shaw me. I want everything out of me west

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Speaker 4: though I don't never think about fighting again. I don't

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Speaker 4: think about even a getting angry, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 4: because I have two girls, two daughters. I'm wanting to

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Speaker 2: I've always actually thought about that just in general, like

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Speaker 2: like when you go to therapy. I feel like when

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Speaker 2: difference in them just by their demeanor, their toned or paid.

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Speaker 2: And I always thought like when you do things like

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Speaker 1: A bit, do you do people avoid therapy because of that?

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Speaker 2: Boxers' broadcasters like, yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's some people, because you know a lot of people

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Speaker 3: just feel like boxes are very very aggressive. But if

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Speaker 3: to their families, Well maybe it might be different.

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Speaker 5: No, I think. I think even with Mike Tyson, Like

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Speaker 5: But you know what people probably don't understand sometimes when

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Speaker 5: a lot of that times when you got that pain

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Speaker 5: that's what that's why you're able to go in there

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Speaker 5: and project yeah you know what I mean, You're able

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Speaker 5: So yeah, if you do go to therapy and start

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Speaker 5: I see what I can see what tankers talk about

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I even thought about that, like for like actors

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Speaker 2: I always sing about that as well. Now I do know, yes,

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Speaker 2: so yesterday that what you guys were talking about was

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Speaker 2: or just the option of whether he will. Jordan not

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Speaker 2: he says, it's no point to it to.

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Speaker 5: Your femal Lopez Loma Chenko, Devin Hainey, schakor those are

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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of them he will well

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Speaker 2: I just a'm thinking about like life after boxing for

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Speaker 2: now moving on speaking to therapy doctor Cheyenne Bryant. You

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Speaker 2: know she's been up here. She's a friend to the room.

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Speaker 2: She sat down with her show that she has on

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Speaker 2: Fox Soul and it's called Truth Truth Talks on Fox Soul.

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Speaker 2: She's a part of that cast and on that show

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Speaker 6: What is Neil to you, doctor b He's a womanizer.

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Speaker 6: He cheated on his wife and that's why she left him.

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Speaker 6: He didn't cheat once, he cheated over and over again.

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Speaker 6: He's a womanizer. He's gaslighting himself and that wife to

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Speaker 6: she pivoted from you. And now you're going and he's

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Speaker 6: That's bs you want to be married. You don't have

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Speaker 6: So now you want to make sure you put out

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Speaker 1: Look at me.

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Speaker 6: I want to be polarmis because I cheated. Know, you

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Speaker 6: failed in your marriage. You're asked up and that's the problem.

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Speaker 6: Now you need to heal from that. And I have

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Speaker 6: these self project your pain onto these women about your

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Speaker 1: Okay, I couldn't even say the word because I would

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Speaker 2: But I wonder if it was polynesia, polyN or poly whatever.

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Speaker 2: Nothing about me, probably nothing.

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Speaker 3: But I wonder if it's the opposite if he thought

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Speaker 5: Yes, And I would like to offer a third opinion.

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Speaker 5: Neil got how many wives.

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Speaker 2: Now then they're his girlfriend's girlfriends or girlfriends's two I

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Speaker 1: Three, So it's his wife and two girlfriends.

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Speaker 2: The wife left him because he got Yeah he was cheating,

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Speaker 5: All right, I understand that when you was with your wife,

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Speaker 5: So y'all ended up getting a divorce. And now you

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Speaker 5: doing what it is you want to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Correct, If it's working for him, I don't see the issue.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it could be, like I said, it could be

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Speaker 3: and this is where he's happy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't.

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Speaker 2: So I hear what you guys are saying, and I

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Speaker 2: that's what he wants to do, great, go do that

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Speaker 2: out of full commitment by saying things like I don't

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Speaker 2: believe in monogamy. No, you're just afraid to fully commit

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Speaker 5: That's sound like, that's sound like you're trying to tell

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Speaker 5: that man what it is that he should feel.

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Speaker 1: But that's his reality.

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Speaker 5: If his reality is, hey, he don't believe in monogamous,

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Speaker 5: better for me.

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Speaker 1: These were the same men.

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Speaker 2: That's why I said be honest, because the men I'm

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Speaker 2: to be monogamous with you.

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Speaker 1: But then when they mess up, it's.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh, I don't think I really believe in monogamy,

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Speaker 2: but they they're trying to be monogamous with you.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense.

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Speaker 5: Well, he was trying, that's the whole point of trying.

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Speaker 5: And then you realize that I can't do this, go

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Speaker 5: b like it happens.

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Speaker 2: Once you realize it, then you should go live that

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's good for him that he realized that he was

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Speaker 2: being honest and he moved forward because a lot of

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Speaker 5: A lot of men like in Sorry, but you did

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Speaker 5: just triggered Lauren you know it triggered Lauren.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, I'm sorry. I did not trigger me. Yes it did.

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Speaker 5: You started talking to whoever that guy was that didna

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Speaker 5: I am so sorry.

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Speaker 3: That what his name is? He from Delaware.

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Speaker 1: I don't date First of all, I don't date people

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Speaker 1: in Delaware.

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Speaker 3: You know when people start gett nervous, you start grabbing

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Speaker 3: my cups up, my cup start cleaning.

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Speaker 1: Up and she and she be telling live that can

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Speaker 1: easily be disproven. Oh, you don't date men in Delaware.

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Speaker 5: Now, every man in Delaware looking like in life when

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Speaker 5: they were standing in the line.

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Speaker 1: I'm the papa. I dated Lauren la Rosa. I dated

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Speaker 1: Lauren Delaware for the majority of my life. So yes,

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Speaker 1: I've dated man in Delaware. But why would you?

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Speaker 5: You don't date men in Delaware? You see right now, right.

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Speaker 2: Now, I'm not dating anybody in Delaware right now. And

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Speaker 2: be you done with that cup?

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Speaker 3: I'm done with that clean up around Charlae Mane.

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Speaker 1: You need something cleaned over there. You got to get

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Speaker 1: out of here. That's just let him live his life,

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Speaker 1: I think.

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Speaker 5: But Neo did exactly what it is you say you

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Speaker 5: want guys to do it to be honest, be honest,

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Speaker 5: that's it. That's right, dang, that took the whole time.

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Speaker 3: Well, that is just with the mess with Lola Rosa.

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up Earth in the morning. The Breakfast

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