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Speaker 1: So many interesting things happening to college football playoffs starts

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Speaker 1: on Friday. Is the Big Ten now at the top,

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Speaker 1: at least just superior to the SEC. There's an argument

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Speaker 1: to be made four Pro Bowls fourteen years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Drew Bledsoe is now joining us. Wine joining us live

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Speaker 1: from Bend, Oregon. One of the absolute gems in North America.

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Speaker 1: I've sent so many people in my life. Now they're

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Speaker 1: not getting snow yet this year. If you want to

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Speaker 1: go and recreate and drink wine, you go to bed

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Speaker 1: and I'll circle back to that in a second. The

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Speaker 1: Bloodsoe family Winery is amazing. You know it's interesting. Philip

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Speaker 1: Rivers forty four chopped it up. Kirk Cousins on Thursday

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Speaker 1: chopped it up. Tommy at forty four. Stafford had a

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Speaker 1: bad back all camp there is something you told me

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Speaker 1: this years ago. You were actually in a wine store

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Speaker 1: in Connecticut, Maximum Beverage, and you told me this. You said, Colin,

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Speaker 1: I can still go in the parking lot and throw

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Speaker 1: a steam route. My legs are done. I watched Philip Rivers.

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Speaker 1: I was like, that's what Drew told me. You can

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Speaker 1: always throw it right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, man, that doesn't really go away. I actually got

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Speaker 3: the non blood nephew. This practice squad tight end for

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Speaker 3: the Dolphins and those I got out and loose it up.

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Speaker 4: Let me let me showre how we used to do it.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: Let me, you know, say, yeah, you can always throw it.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't really go away. It's being able to take

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Speaker 3: the hits and do the rest of it. But yeah,

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Speaker 3: that was kind of cool for us old guys to

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Speaker 4: Yeah. It was fun.

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's interesting when I look at the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: You were with Mike Rabel one year, and I still

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Speaker 1: contend they're in a rebuild and I want you to

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Speaker 1: go back to your second year as a quarterback.

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Speaker 4: So you're like a sponge.

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Speaker 1: You're trying to take all this stuff in Rabel's a

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Speaker 1: tough coach. The roster's good. It's not as good as Seattle,

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Speaker 1: It's not as good as a Ram, It's not as

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Speaker 1: good as the Lions or Eagles. Go back to year two.

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Speaker 1: Are you kind of amazed by Drake May or a

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Speaker 1: bow Nix or a Caleb or do you think, hey,

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Speaker 1: the world's changed. These guys get more snaps in high

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Speaker 3: Here two is a big year, colin, you know, because

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Speaker 3: that first year man, everything is so fast, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think Phil Simms famously described it as sticking your

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Speaker 3: everything is so fast. Year two it slows down really dramatically.

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Speaker 3: And then if you have you know what, you know

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Speaker 3: you've got a roster that's being built around you, and

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Speaker 3: But year two generally is a time when you can

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Speaker 3: And and you know, Drake did some great things his

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Speaker 3: The other Josh McDaniels, because our Josh McDaniels is our winemaker.

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Speaker 3: But the but the other Josh McDaniels, the other play caller.

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Speaker 3: He's he's great for quarterbacks. And Rabel's just awesome, man.

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Speaker 3: He you know, he was a guy when we were playing.

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Speaker 3: He had just so much energy Colin and you know,

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Speaker 3: And he is a tough coach, but he's tough in

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Speaker 4: Man. They're having fun, you know they I was.

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Speaker 3: Out there, we were out there when they played the

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Speaker 3: they were rebuilding, but that rebuild seems to have been

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Speaker 1: Caleb Williams is completing fifty eight percent of his throws.

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Speaker 1: I think I would be bothered more if he didn't

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Speaker 1: now has increased his completion percentage, but he doesn't tow

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Speaker 1: because they haven't drafted receiver. Well, I'm not losing a

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Speaker 1: ton of sleep over it, but to sum, it's alarmingly low.

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on completion percentage? When you have

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Speaker 1: you had it by the way, you had the best

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a problem sometimes And I and you

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Speaker 3: know you said it, I fell into this. When you've

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Speaker 4: And you know, I think over time.

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Speaker 3: What I learned and what you've seen with Josh and

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Speaker 3: it's it's it's great to it's great to have that

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Speaker 3: It's okay to throw the check down a little more often.

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Speaker 3: You know, you just relieve a lot of stress on

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Speaker 3: think you'll see a progression with Caleb because he's got

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Speaker 3: huge arm talent. But there's a switch that has to happen.

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Speaker 3: You're like, okay, let's take the easy ones. You know,

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Speaker 3: big throw downfield. It's one of the things that's you know,

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Speaker 4: But when you watch you.

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Speaker 4: So I think that's where Caleb is.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't concern me, but there, you know, if you watch,

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Speaker 3: if he's if he's getting the right support, you will

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Speaker 3: see a progression over his career where he's going to

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Speaker 3: more often, the completion percentage will go up, and then

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Speaker 3: when he needs to be superman, he can do that.

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Speaker 1: So I've always kind of felt that in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: because the locker room is so small, like nine guys

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Speaker 1: In football, you know, at practice you split off offense

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Speaker 1: you re sign George Pickens knowing much like Georgia Pittsburgen

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Speaker 4: So if you're going to have a player that's.

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Speaker 3: You know, one thing Colin we that we have to

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Speaker 4: I hope he is.

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Speaker 3: So I'm putting that on you from now when you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, when they talk about the term arm talent, he's

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Speaker 1: one of those guys. Double Back Winery is the name

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Speaker 3: We call that working, Colin. I'm going to go to work.

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Speaker 3: But but we've got man, We've got you know. We

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Speaker 3: They keep just kicking ass for us and making me

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Speaker 1: Man, Bledsoe Family Winery. Look it up online. I've been

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Speaker 1: to see you, my friend.

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Speaker 4: You two.

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Speaker 3: Collu man, I'm Merry Christmas to you and everybody everybody

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Speaker 4: All right, Drew Bledsoe, it really is.

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Speaker 1: Double back is a unbelievable The cab is unbelievable. It's

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Speaker 1: not you know, Drew's been doing this for a long time. Walla,

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Speaker 1: gonna do a break comeback with Herdline News. Quarterbacks all

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Speaker 1: love Stafford. If you ask quarterbacks about quarterbacks, they're all like,

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Speaker 1: and the Spurs? That's a good NBA Cup. The East stinks,

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Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 8: Oh, I've been waiting on this story for a good hour.

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Speaker 8: It's your boy, Sam Donald and the Seahawks.

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Speaker 6: Huge game Thursday cap.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, Sam Donald's been on the struggle bus. He's got

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Speaker 6: Now, I'll have some stats for you.

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Speaker 8: Shortly, they nearly lost to Philip Rivers, the forty four

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Speaker 8: here's Sam Donald talking about offensive issues which have plagued

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Speaker 4: For us, we just got to start faster as an offense.

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Speaker 5: It's I feel like it's becoming a thing now these

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Speaker 4: We got to get it figured out. You know. I

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Speaker 4: But we just gotta we gotta play better.

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Speaker 1: How do you not love Sam Darnold never a victim?

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Speaker 1: Starts with me. That guy is such a good guy.

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Speaker 1: Now the bad news last some more positive stuff. Last

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Speaker 8: Yeah they I mean they won a lot of games

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Speaker 8: last year in Minnesota. Okay, Now to what matters is

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Speaker 8: the last three games, Colin, This is staggering. So the

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Speaker 6: So I dug in the drives. Look at this.

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Speaker 8: Fifteen drives in the last three games. Zero touchdowns. Offensively,

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Speaker 8: they basically, Colin, they had one drive over fifty yards

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Speaker 8: let me ask you this. When you look at this

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Speaker 6: I mean his car was cooking.

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Speaker 8: They were scoring forty points, petered out end of the season.

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Speaker 6: Quietly, Kubiak, let's move on. Sam Donald.

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Speaker 8: Last year started hot with O'Connell, petered out at the end, struggled.

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Speaker 6: Done.

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Speaker 8: This is happening again to Kubiak and Donald Collen.

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Speaker 6: What's the concern level?

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Speaker 1: First of all, weather it gets worse later a season.

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Speaker 1: His offense is harder. Secondly, offensive lines of physical position.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's offensive line is healthy. Seattles was bad last year,

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Speaker 1: better could be dinged up. Also, let's be honest, it's

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Speaker 6: And then another set for you? So you want to go.

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Speaker 8: First nine games this season Donald was unbelievable, seventeen touchdowns,

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Speaker 8: nine percent, five touchdowns, five picks, down four We're against

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Speaker 8: in the last few games. I'm not willing to go

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Speaker 8: that far, but I do think you can say, Colin,

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Speaker 6: In a first half under in Ram Seahawks?

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Speaker 6: What are their combined numbers? They keep winning? I like winners.

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Speaker 1: I'm not in the stats.

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Speaker 6: Can we delete that? Are we live right now? Stats?

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Speaker 8: This is a sad one. Pete Carroll and the Raiders.

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Speaker 8: Holy hell, this team is a disaster. Do you remember

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Speaker 8: when he got the job, He's like, oh, we could

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Speaker 8: turn it around. We're a player or two away. Pete

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Speaker 8: said he expected the team to compete right away, not rebuild.

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Speaker 6: They're now two and twelve. They are in the mix

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Speaker 6: for the numeral Uno pick in the draft.

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Speaker 8: Here's Pete Carroll on his job security and the Raiders

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Speaker 8: as a whole.

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Speaker 6: Do you feel like you're coaching four?

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Speaker 4: Your job? But I wonder how did you kind of like?

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Speaker 5: No, I don't feel like that at all.

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Speaker 2: I really don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't. I'm well beyond that.

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Speaker 5: I blindly optimistic as I am. You know, I thought

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Speaker 5: we would come in here and we'd have a big

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Speaker 5: factor in this club, and we would be able to

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Speaker 5: find success that we would be proud of and right

452
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Speaker 5: now doesn't feel like that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not that they're losing, it's how they're losing.

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Speaker 1: Seventy five yards of offense, so you know, it's beyond losing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of teams lose, they lose close, they're competitive,

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Speaker 1: they fight, it's how they're losing.

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Speaker 8: You see that line against the Texans in Houston with

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Speaker 8: fourteen and a half, I mean you kind of want

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Speaker 8: to just lay it, bet it and forget it, as

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Speaker 8: they like to say.

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Speaker 6: Let me just ask you this. It just hit me.

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Speaker 8: Old guy Bill Belichick goes to college total flop. The

463
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Speaker 8: last two presidents have been very old, and they've both

464
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Speaker 8: struggled greatly. Pete Carroll goes to the Raiders old. I mean,

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Speaker 8: at some point, do we need just to say, hey, guys,

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Speaker 8: I know you had a good run. Maybe it's time

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Speaker 8: to just shut it down and leave the coaching and

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Speaker 8: politics to younger folks.

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Speaker 6: I don't.

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Speaker 8: Pete Carroll has been looksless on the sideline coling.

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Speaker 6: He has like no idea what to do. He's like, oh,

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Speaker 6: let's star.

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Speaker 8: Kiddie Pickett, they had seventy five yards.

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Speaker 6: I'm not being an agist here.

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Speaker 8: I know that might sound bad, but it's like, come on, guys, like,

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Speaker 8: what are we doing here?

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Speaker 6: I don't see any way Pete Carroll survives.

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Speaker 5: Do you l?

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Speaker 1: I think the last two years he and John Snyder

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Speaker 1: had issues Pete's I'm not going to get personal. It's

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Speaker 1: been disappointing. I don't think from ownership down it's working.

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Speaker 1: I believe if you're gonna hire a defensive coach, you

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Speaker 1: got to go to Miko Ryans or Mike McDonald or

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Speaker 1: maybe the next one is Jesse Menjer you gotta go young.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these older defensive coaches, Ron Rivera, Pete Belichick,

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Speaker 1: sometimes Tomlin, they feel they don't quite understand the world's changed.

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Speaker 1: You have to be a lead on offense to win

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Speaker 1: great defenses like Houston.

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Speaker 6: Houston's going to be.

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Speaker 1: A number seven seed and easily has the best defense

491
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Speaker 1: in the league. What does that tell you about defense

492
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Speaker 1: in the modern era? There's limitations on your defense. Philadelphia's

493
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Speaker 1: defense is amazing. Yeah, they're struggling. Why because they can't

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Speaker 1: get the offense right. So if you're gonna go defense,

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Speaker 1: there's an argument. Lovey Smith was like struggle to bit

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Speaker 1: the end you gotta go young in defense. So yes,

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Speaker 1: Jesse Minterer would be a guy I would look at.

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Speaker 8: So if I'm Jesse Minter and I see that the

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Speaker 8: Titan's job is open with cam Ward, the Giant's job

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Speaker 8: is open, and the Raiders, which one of those appeals

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Speaker 8: to you if you're Jesse Minter, or do you just

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Speaker 8: stay with Herbert and Harball for another year? That's the

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Speaker 8: answer exactly. I don't think this is a great job. Honestly,

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Speaker 8: I know not to make it about the Jets, but

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Speaker 8: like I know, Glenn has not been great. I'm not

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Speaker 8: dumping him because there's nobody out there. I don't see

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Speaker 8: any great candidates. I do think Pete gets run and

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Speaker 8: you know, obviously you could flex Tom Brady and he

509
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Speaker 8: could probably bring in a big name. But final story, Colin,

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Speaker 8: let's go to college football.

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Speaker 6: Big day in the.

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Speaker 8: College football world, a lot of speculation about Arch Manning,

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Speaker 8: and Arch's dad confirmed that are Commanding will return to

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Speaker 8: Texas for the twenty twenty sixth season. He's not going

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Speaker 8: to enter the draft. I don't think this surprises anybody.

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Speaker 8: We knew this after Week one. I will just say,

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Speaker 8: you know, Arch ended the season on a high note. Right,

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Speaker 8: He looked pretty good in that an M game, certainly

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Speaker 8: better than he did early. He's still got some work

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Speaker 8: to do. We got it schedule next year.

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Speaker 6: You want you want to see it?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, next year?

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Speaker 6: Not great.

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Speaker 8: They gotta face Ohio State, Oklahoma, Ole Miss, LSU, A

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Speaker 8: and m. This is Tennessee, Florida, this is life in

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Speaker 8: the SEC. Like, it's not going to be easy.

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Speaker 4: For arch Well, all Miss won't be as good.

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Speaker 6: Well, Lane Kiffin is gonna be there. They're gonna hit

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Speaker 6: the portal hard Man.

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Speaker 1: No, that's the LSU.

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Speaker 2: LSU will be great.

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Speaker 6: Oh I'm sorry LSU. Yes, yes, yes, Lane Kiff.

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Speaker 1: Well, next year's class, we'll have arch manning, Jade, and Mayava.

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Speaker 4: As starters.

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Speaker 6: I'll Dante Moore does he come out?

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Speaker 1: If he If he comes out next year, he would

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Speaker 1: be the number one pick. He and arch Man think

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Speaker 1: would be the number one pick.

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Speaker 6: And keep an eye on the kid from Florida who's transferring.

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Speaker 2: He's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: He throws a lot of picks, a lot of picks.

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Speaker 1: He's really inconsistent.

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Speaker 8: What about your guy, Julian saying I'm not anywhere close

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Speaker 8: on that.

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Speaker 6: I love Julia is under No, Underwood was a red shirt.

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Speaker 6: He was a freshman this year, so no, he's not eligible.

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Speaker 8: But yeah, as we always say, next year's draft is

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Speaker 8: stacked at quarterback. Mateer from Oklahoma. I'm very curious to

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Speaker 8: see what he looks like. By the way, Friday night,

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Speaker 8: so am I is he playing Friday? I think they

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Speaker 8: play Friday Oklahoma Alabama.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good game. That's a good Friday.

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Speaker 8: A couple of potential NFL quarterbacks. You know you're in

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Speaker 8: the Midwest. You should just gonna take a little drive

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Speaker 8: with a couple hours down there at Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: That's not a couple hours. A couple hours for me

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Speaker 1: to get to the verbs. A couple hours is Green Bay.

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Speaker 4: J Mack with the News.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the

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Speaker 2: herd Line News.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Mike McDaniel, who I argued earlier, he's

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Speaker 1: not my cup of te as a head coach, but

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Speaker 1: there's not a great pool out there, and the GM

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Speaker 1: didn't do a good job to is regressed. There's an

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Speaker 1: argument the new GM says, I'm gonna keep Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: around for a year and we're going to go draft

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Speaker 1: a young quarterback and see what I can get. I

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Speaker 1: think that's out there. Here's Mike McDaniel today at a

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Speaker 1: pressure talking about her last night, talking about benching potentially to.

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Speaker 9: I think that, you know, we're in the process of

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Speaker 9: game planning for the Cincinnati Bengals. So in that process,

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Speaker 9: we're trying to determine who'll give us the best chance

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Speaker 9: to win.

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Speaker 1: Is that in your mind still toa or are you

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Speaker 1: considering a quarterback change this week?

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Speaker 9: Well, I think the quarterback play last night was not

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Speaker 9: good enough, and so for me, everything's on the table.

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Speaker 1: I'll throw this at sh Their next three games are Cincinnati, Burrow,

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Speaker 1: will play New England and Tampa. I'd rest a few

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Speaker 1: of your defensive starters. I'd go zero to three. They

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Speaker 1: currently have the number eleven pick. I'd play two. I

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Speaker 1: don't care. I would you're gonna lose to Tampa in

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Speaker 1: New England because you don't have the players Cincinnati, maybe

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Speaker 1: rest your top running back whatever. I'd rest a few

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Speaker 1: guys and end up six and eleven, and you may

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Speaker 1: have to reach on a quarterback. Maybe you move down

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Speaker 1: and replenish their roster a little bit. But I think

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Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel with a new quarterback move off Tua for

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Speaker 1: a year. It's interesting. He's an offensive coach, he's super bright,

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Speaker 1: and if you look at what he's done with Tua, folks,

592
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Speaker 1: Tua led the league in completions one year, passing yards

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Speaker 1: one year. I can argue Mike McDaniel has overachieved with Tua.

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Speaker 1: I can make that argument I didn't like. My theory

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Speaker 1: has always been if you have two as a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: you have to have two things, a top six or

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Speaker 1: seven ozer line and a good backup quarterback. They're bad

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Speaker 1: at both. That's not Mike McDaniel's fault. So Quinn Ewers

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Speaker 1: is a more than capable backup. You know what, I think,

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Speaker 1: that's what I do. I'd play quin yours. I want

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Speaker 1: to see what I got, Go play Quinn yours next

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Speaker 1: three weeks. I think that's what I would do. Zach Wilson,

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Speaker 1: I know what I've got, Quinn yours. Put him out there,

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Speaker 1: let's see if he can play. And if he can,

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Speaker 1: you don't have to draft the quarterback, but I would

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Speaker 1: sure like to have that eleventh pick become like the

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Speaker 1: seventh pick, because that's the territory that you can move

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Speaker 1: down and get a four and a five. And because

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Speaker 1: they're they're not close. But McDaniel is good enough at

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Speaker 1: what he does. It's if I get the job as GM,

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Speaker 1: which has always been my dream job. I get the

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Speaker 1: job as GM, I can sit around and go to

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Speaker 1: Steven Ross and say I want.

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Speaker 4: To keep them a year.

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Speaker 1: He actually he actually, I'm looking for an offensive guy. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: you tell me the market instead of locking in for

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Speaker 1: five years and seventy million dollars, let's just let's just

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Speaker 1: see what happens. Life moves quickly.

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Speaker 4: It's to hurt