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Speaker 1: Welcome everyone to the Thursday edition of Fair Territory. I'm

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Speaker 1: Ken Rosenthal, as you can see here with my friend

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Speaker 1: Alana Rizzo, we are coming to you today. I am

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Speaker 1: at least from Tampa. I was at the Yankees this morning.

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Speaker 1: I was at the Phillies yesterday, the Pirates, the day

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Speaker 1: before that the Blue Jays. Maybe it wasn't quite that order,

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Speaker 1: but you get the idea. It's spring training. And actually, Alana,

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Speaker 1: last night we had some news.

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Speaker 2: We did have some news, and you're all over Florida

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Speaker 2: putting in the miles. You know how that goes. Matt

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Speaker 2: schurzer Ken Going back to the Blue Jays, what do

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Speaker 2: you make of it?

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Speaker 1: It's very interesting move for a team that already has

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Speaker 1: added two starting pitchers this offseason, and actually three if

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Speaker 1: you want to include Shane Bieber who opted in to

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Speaker 1: his deal. They added, of course in free agency, Dylan

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Speaker 1: Ceese and Cody Ponce, and yet the Blue Jays are

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Speaker 1: still trying to add depth. You see the deal there,

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Speaker 1: one year, three million, with ten million dollars in incentives

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Speaker 1: that start at sixty five innings. It's like a million

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Speaker 1: dollars each for ten different levels up to tw one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five innings, So if Max Schurzer pitches,

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Speaker 1: he can earn all of that. But we'll see how

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Speaker 1: that all goes. Schurzer is in a situation where he

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Speaker 1: has been throwing bullpens. He should be ready by opening day,

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Speaker 1: and the question will be which other Blue Jays pitchers

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Speaker 1: are in the mix opening day as well. They're going

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Speaker 1: to have a selection to choose from. You see right

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Speaker 1: here there are eight possible starters. Now, Bieber will not

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Speaker 1: be ready to start the season, but Seies Gossman, You Savage, Burrios,

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Speaker 1: Cody Ponce, Scherzer, Bieber, and Eric Lauer, who has talked

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Speaker 1: about possibly getting traded, or at least that would be

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Speaker 1: his desire. If the Blue Jays cannot create a spot

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Speaker 1: for him in the rotation, perhaps a trade of Laer

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Speaker 1: is coming. Now. Max Scherzer obviously had his choice of teams,

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Speaker 1: and you can say, well, my team could have beat

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Speaker 1: three million dollars, come on, But Scherzer was only going

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Speaker 1: to go to certain teams. He had a great experience

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Speaker 1: in Toronto, of course, as all of their players did

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Speaker 1: last season, so the Blue Jays were where he wanted

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Speaker 1: to go. And now we'll see how they put together

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Speaker 1: their rotation, not just for opening day but the rest

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Speaker 1: of the season. You need more than five, they've got

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Speaker 1: more than five.

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Speaker 2: And a couple of questions for you on this. They

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Speaker 2: need more than five, they have more than five. But

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Speaker 2: what's interesting to me about this is the no trade protection.

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Speaker 2: That's great for sures Er, it's great for his family.

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Speaker 2: Why was that so important? Why do the Blue Jays

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Speaker 2: allow it? And furthermore, could there be a situation in

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Speaker 2: which Max Schuzer could be needed or come out of

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Speaker 2: the bullpen?

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Speaker 1: Alan I wouldn't think he would come out of the

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Speaker 1: he could do it. He did in the playoffs for

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Speaker 1: the Dodgers. But he's coming to be a starter. That

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Speaker 1: is who he is, that is what he wants to be.

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Speaker 1: As for the no trade protection, it's a full no

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Speaker 1: trade clause. And my assumption here and I have not

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Speaker 1: spoken to Max about this yet. It's still pending on

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Speaker 1: physical this deal, but my assumption is, Hey, he's signing

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Speaker 1: with Toronto. He doesn't want to go anywhere else. He

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Speaker 1: is at a stage in his career where he doesn't

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Speaker 1: want to be traded at mid season, be a hired

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Speaker 1: gun if he would even be that. Remember, last regular

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Speaker 1: season wasn't great for Max, he was great in the

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Speaker 1: postseason once he was on the roster. Wasn't even on

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Speaker 1: the roster for the division series, so he wants to

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Speaker 1: him that. And obviously, if things fell apart there, which

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Speaker 1: no one expects, and he was pitching well and some

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Speaker 1: team wanted him in the J's for some reason wanted

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Speaker 1: to trade him, would he entertain that. Could he waive

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Speaker 1: the no trade? Yes, but I do not expect it

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Speaker 2: Ken, what is the likelihood in your opinion that Eric

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Speaker 2: Lower does actually get traded, especially since he seems to

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Speaker 1: Good? Question a lot. I don't know. And if I'm

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Speaker 1: the Blue Jays, I I've got the hammer here, I

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Speaker 1: I might want him to start out as a longman,

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Speaker 1: a role he served last year and quite well for them.

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Speaker 1: Of course, he saved their rotation too at times with

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Speaker 1: all the injuries that they had. But I want all

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Speaker 1: I can have. And this is in contrast to, for instance,

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Braves, where I wrote about earlier this week.

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Speaker 1: They're looking at a situation where the depth is in

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Speaker 1: a perilous spot. The Jays with their money, and remember

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Speaker 1: they're over the highest luxury tax threshold. So Scherzer it's

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Speaker 1: three million, but he's costing them one hundred and ten

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Speaker 1: no financial limit this season, So for them, I don't

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Speaker 2: Toronto Blue Jays spending more than the other twenty nine

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Speaker 2: teams in free agency. Good on them, Ken, What more

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Speaker 2: can you tell us about Randall gridschipt the New York Yankees.

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Speaker 2: You were at Yankees camp earlier.

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Speaker 1: This is a minor league deal and the Yankees have

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Speaker 1: been talking all off season about getting a right handed

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Speaker 1: lineup on days they want to rest Trent Grisham against lefties,

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Speaker 1: one of the best left un left hitters in the game. Judge,

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Speaker 1: Gritschick is not coming off a terribly good season, and

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Speaker 1: perhaps that is why he only received a minor league deal.

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Speaker 1: He has been a guy who in his career has

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Speaker 1: hit lefties well, but didn't really do much of anything

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Speaker 1: last season for Arizona and then Kansas City. He was

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Speaker 1: league average in Arizona, not good at all in Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: So it's a bit of a flyer for the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, it's only a minor league deal.

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Speaker 1: If they don't like what they see in spring training,

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Speaker 1: they can just carry Jason Dominguez or do something else

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Speaker 1: impressive thing about the Yankees right now, forget their outfield situation,

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Speaker 1: forget what's going on with their young players there. They

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Speaker 1: have depth. Obviously, the depth of their pitching is what

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Speaker 1: is really intriguing. And not just Garrett Cole and Carlos

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Speaker 1: for the Yankees, and it's going to be really interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how they soar through it all.

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Speaker 2: Ken, they're turning some heads, but they're not the only one.

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Speaker 2: Connor Griffin, this kid is a sight to behold. I

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Speaker 2: know you just wrote a piece about him, but he's

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Speaker 2: definitely turning heads. What more can you tell us about him?

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Speaker 1: He's the best prospect in baseball, consensus number one prospect,

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Speaker 1: and around the Pirates there is a lot of talk

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Speaker 1: potentially he could be a unicorn along the lines of

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Speaker 1: Paul Skeins, the hitting version of Paul Skeens. Now that's

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Speaker 1: a lot to ask, obviously, but conn of Griffin is

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Speaker 1: nineteen years old. He is put together physically, he looks

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Speaker 1: like physically a young Cal Ripken. And beyond that, what

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Speaker 1: I detail in the story, you hear that this is

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Speaker 1: a kid who has a good head on his shoulders,

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Speaker 1: who is very mature. He's savvy about the game, he

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Speaker 1: he is trending toward being their opening day shortstop. It's

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Speaker 1: Poohols to a bunch of guys Ken Griffy Junior, Mike Trout,

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Speaker 1: back to the miners, of course, but we have seen

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Speaker 1: this sense that really can make an impact right away,

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Speaker 1: and it looks like looks like Connor Griffin could be

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Speaker 2: A surprise boost of confidence and something to watch for

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Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Pirates. We don't get to talk about them

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Speaker 2: in a positive light very often, so Connor Griffin is

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Speaker 2: perhaps that spark that they need. Merrill Kelly Ken back

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Speaker 2: to the Diamondbacks, but potentially not ready for opening day,

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Speaker 2: dealing with some soreness if you will, in his back.

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Speaker 2: What more can you tell us.

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Speaker 1: Here is the Diamondbacks have been one of the more

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Speaker 1: aggressive teams over the years under Ken Kendrick, their owner

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Speaker 1: in signing free agents, in maybe out punching their market

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Speaker 1: to be their market size. Phoenix is a huge market,

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Speaker 1: but it's not a huge baseball market in terms of revenue,

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Speaker 1: and yet they've had horrible luck signing these free agents.

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Speaker 1: I want to show you a list here of pictures

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Speaker 1: that they've signed that at least in some cases have

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Speaker 1: now perhaps Merrill Kelly injured as well. They've also signed

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Speaker 1: Zach Gallen for this season. I did not include Zach

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Speaker 1: Grenky on this list. He was a huge free agent

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Speaker 1: the time. He did pitch well for the Diamondbacks, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately they traded him to the Houston Astros. So the

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Speaker 2: should go. Should it be Arizona, Should it be Florida

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Speaker 2: Cactus League, grape Fruit League. I'd love to get tickets

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Speaker 1: It's at Oriols, right, not Oriels at Pirates. Not sure

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Speaker 2: Well else, I don't know Pirates.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Condig Griffin play. Conda Griffin hit

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Speaker 1: two home runs the other day against the Boston Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Both homers left Jet Blue Park. The first was off

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Speaker 1: the Red Sox one hundred and thirty million dollar man

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Speaker 1: range of Suarez. Now, I know it's spring training, but

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Speaker 1: To me, what it all starts with is information, And

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Speaker 1: I'm not talking about scoops and transactions and that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing. I'm talking about details that will make a

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Speaker 1: good story. And then, of course there's the skill in

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Speaker 1: putting those sentences together and all of that. There are

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Speaker 1: people who are a lot better at that than I am,

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Speaker 1: and there are people who are a lot better at

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Speaker 1: gathering than I am. But hard work really is a

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Speaker 1: key in all of these things in journalism, and it's

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Speaker 1: kind of the backbone of the writing part of it too.

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Speaker 2: Well, I disagree with you. I think you are a

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Speaker 2: brilliant writer and you do an amazing job. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's go to our dork of the week. All right,

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Speaker 2: and I'll let you lead this category off.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm gonna go with a person that's pretty obvious

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Speaker 1: choice this week. It's already the says Moreno, owner of

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Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Angels. You might have seen the news

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Speaker 1: about Artie Moreno conducting a survey or the Angels conducting

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Speaker 1: a survey in which fans said, according to Moreno and Angels,

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Speaker 1: that winning was not in their top five priorities. Really,

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Speaker 1: I'd like to see who those fans are. I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see the survey. I'd like to get a little

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Speaker 1: bit more detail about this. Frankly, I think it's a

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Speaker 1: bunch of bunk. And I'll tell you this if I'm

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Speaker 1: Rob Manfred, the Commissioner of Baseball, and I see an

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Speaker 1: owner saying this on the eve of collective bargaining negotiations,

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Speaker 1: when trying and winning is going to be a key

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Speaker 1: element of this whole deal. That's what the union wants

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Speaker 1: to see more of from more teams. Artie Moreno is

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Speaker 1: embarrassing major League Baseball with this kind of stuff, and

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Speaker 1: if I'm Manfred, I am not happy about it.

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Speaker 2: Ken does Rob Manfred have that conversation? Do you think

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Speaker 2: the commissioner of the sport picks up the phone and says, Artie,

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Speaker 2: what are you doing? Like, I'm here to support the owners.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to support you guys, but you're making my

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Speaker 2: job very difficult.

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Speaker 1: Rob Manfred is someone that, of course at times I

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Speaker 1: criticize and others criticize, but he does have a very

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Speaker 1: difficult job. He's employed by the thirty owners, so it's

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Speaker 1: a difficult political position that he is constantly in. It's

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Speaker 1: especially difficult in a time of collective bargaining negotiations. But again,

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Speaker 1: I can't imagine he was too happy with Artie Moreno's

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Speaker 1: great survey.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I still would love to see that survey. I

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Speaker 2: know I'm not the only one wondering where that survey is. Okay,

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Speaker 2: my dork of the week, and this is not probably

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Speaker 2: going to come as any shock to anybody. It is

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Speaker 2: a PCA Pete Crow ar'mstrong with the Chicago Cubs who

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Speaker 2: had this to say, I love Chicago more and more.

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Speaker 2: I love Chicago as well. By the way, the people

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Speaker 2: are great. They give a big They aren't just baseball

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Speaker 2: fans who go to the game like Dodgers fans to

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Speaker 2: take pictures and whatever. They're paying attention. They care. Okay, listen,

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Speaker 2: PCA is great for the game. I love the way

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Speaker 2: the kid plays. But to say that Dodgers fans just

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Speaker 2: go to take pictures and whatever is a little unfair.

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Speaker 2: I would I would garner to bet that all thirty

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Speaker 2: clubs have interesting sections of their stadium where there are

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Speaker 2: fans that don't care as much about the game. In fact,

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Speaker 2: at Wrigley Stack, in the you know, the plastic cups

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Speaker 2: of beer all the way to the moon, those types

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Speaker 2: of things. Everybody has certain parts of their fan base

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Speaker 2: that are a little suspect. But to say that the

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Speaker 2: Dodgers fans just go to take pictures and whatever is

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Speaker 2: not fair. It's a massive stadium. I've covered it for

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Speaker 2: seven seasons. Their fans are very passionate and rabid, and

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Speaker 2: every fan base thinks that there's is the best and

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Speaker 2: every fan base is right. Okay, So PCA, I love you.

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Speaker 2: You're great for the sport. But come on, man, come

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Speaker 2: on all right. If you're watching on TV, thank you

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Speaker 2: were going to see you next time. We'll have a

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Speaker 2: couple more minutes on the YouTube side right after this.

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Speaker 2: All right, ken, if you were still with us, you're

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Speaker 2: watching on YouTube, We're happy that you are here. Let's

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Speaker 2: talk talk a little bit about the Braves rotation. You

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Speaker 2: had mentioned it earlier in the show. Whereas the Toronto

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Speaker 2: Blue Jays have a palletha of arms, the Braves are

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Speaker 2: on the opposite end of that spectrum perhaps, But they

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Speaker 2: did just extend Chrissale to I believe, a one year

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Speaker 2: extension with an opt out after that. What do you

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Speaker 2: make of the Braves rotation moving forward?

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Speaker 1: Well, and I wrote about this this week, and basically

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Speaker 1: what I wrote was that the Braves President Base Operations,

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Speaker 1: Alex Anthopolis, as good as he has been, and he

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Speaker 1: has been really good at his job. He's playing with

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Speaker 1: fire here, and he's playing with fire because they've already

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Speaker 1: lost Spencer Schwellenbach and Hirston Waldrip just this spring training.

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Speaker 1: Those two guys have gone down, both had elbow cleanups.

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Speaker 1: They'll be out, most likely at least for several months.

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Speaker 1: So what are the Braves looking at right now? Chris

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Speaker 1: Sale is going to be thirty seven this season, Rinaldo

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Speaker 1: Lopez coming off a season in which he pitched once

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Speaker 1: due to shoulder inflammation, Grant Holmes who has a tear

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Speaker 1: in his elbow but is pitching with it, and Bryce

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Speaker 1: Elder is going to be competing for the fifth spot,

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Speaker 1: and I'm missing someone. I'm sorry about that, but essentially

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Speaker 1: this is a group. Oh, Spencer Strider, Spencer Strider, this

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Speaker 1: will be his second year off. Tommy John even if

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Speaker 1: he is back, and they do believe he is, it's

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Speaker 1: going to be difficult for him to carry a heavy workload.

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Speaker 1: So with Bryce Elder and Joey Wentz both out of options,

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Speaker 1: competing for the fifth spot, it just seems to me

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Speaker 1: that they're perilously thin, and they're one injury away from

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Speaker 1: a really dangerous situation, a situation in which at that

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Speaker 1: point they'd be desperate to sign a Giolito or a

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Speaker 1: Zach Lettel or do something with a trade. It just

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Speaker 1: seems to me this team, a team with Ronald Acuna

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Speaker 1: Junior in his prime coming back from the knee problems,

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Speaker 1: a team that really should be a World Series contender

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Speaker 1: this year. They're playing again, as I said, with fire here.

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Speaker 1: It's a little bit of a dangerous spot for them,

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Speaker 1: and one that I think they could have avoided if

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Speaker 1: they had fulfilled their off season mission of acquiring a

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Speaker 1: playoff starter. That's what they said they wanted to do

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Speaker 1: at the start of the off season. Never got it done.

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Speaker 2: Ken, this is not related to the Braves, but I

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Speaker 2: guess it could be. And maybe I'm a little surprised

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Speaker 2: that he's on a minor league deal right now. Do

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Speaker 2: you see Walker Buehler getting on with a big league club.

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Speaker 2: It seems like kind of a fall from grace considering

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Speaker 2: how good he was for a short period of time.

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Speaker 2: I realize he's dealt with injuries, But where do you

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Speaker 2: think Warker Buehler ultimately ends up?

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Speaker 1: San Diego is where he's ending up, or at least

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Speaker 1: where he's in camp with now. Does he make the team?

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Speaker 1: We'll see. And Walker Buehler, you're right along. He's had

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Speaker 1: an interesting fall from grace here and a stunning fall honestly.

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Speaker 1: But the Padres have done a good job in kind

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Speaker 1: of collecting some arms that who knows, may have a

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Speaker 1: chance to surface in a big way for them. Harman

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Speaker 1: Marquez is another one. So their rotation took a hit

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Speaker 1: obviously when they lost Dylan Cees than when Darvish had

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Speaker 1: the injury that he will not pitch again this season.

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Speaker 1: But they have some possibilities there. Bueller is one of them.

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Speaker 2: All right, Can we appreciate the insight As always, we

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Speaker 2: pay you guys for being a part of the show today.

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Speaker 2: Don't forget that. Foul Territory followed us. Jason Picknus is

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Speaker 2: at DBAX camp and he's going to host with Old

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Speaker 2: Kerzinski and Scott Braun. Pen Is back with there on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Talk to me then NEX time