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Speaker 1: Today is maybe my top five favorite episode of the year.

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Speaker 1: Definitely my favorite episode of the year in which football

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Speaker 1: My co host, my companion, my campadre professional better Simon

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Speaker 2: Hello, Chad brother.

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Speaker 1: You know how much I love the Oscars. I know

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Speaker 2: All Right, I teased it, I teased it. Sunday Night

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Speaker 2: is the ninety.

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Speaker 1: Sixth presentation of the Academy Awards.

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Speaker 2: As we do every year.

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Speaker 1: At this time, we welcome onto our show a true

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Speaker 1: Hollywood insider, a top manager at Mosaic in Los Angeles,

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Speaker 1: a man named one of the forty most powerful people

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Speaker 1: in comedy by the Hollywood Reporter. Most importantly a true

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Speaker 1: Oscars savant friend of the podcast, mister Michael Lasker, What

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Speaker 1: is going on? Brother?

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Speaker 3: That's as always an incredibly kind introduction. And I love

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Speaker 3: the You're naming a list I was on from like

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Speaker 3: seven years ago. Darn any new lists for me to

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Speaker 3: be on.

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Speaker 1: Once you're on a list, you get on the wall,

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Speaker 1: it's in your obituary, you put it on your jackstone,

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Speaker 1: you highlighted in Wikipedia, whatever it takes.

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Speaker 3: Look, you guys know how much I love this podcast

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Speaker 3: and I always love you know. I obviously met you

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Speaker 3: years ago through Isabelle Gomez.

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Speaker 1: You know she is by the way we think out

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Speaker 1: how are we going to drop is to drop it fast?

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Speaker 3: We don't drop it fast, doesn't get dropped. No, I

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Speaker 3: love coming on here, and to be very honest, and

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Speaker 3: I'm simon, I'm looking at you. The thing. The only

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Speaker 3: thing about this podcast that I feel bad about when

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Speaker 3: you guys have me back on, is I feel bad

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Speaker 3: that the Oscar betting odds, you know, arena is not

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Speaker 3: quite as malleable as some of the sports you guys

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Speaker 3: bet on. You know, And we'll get to all those

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Speaker 3: reasons why. But you know what I mean, It's like

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Speaker 3: when you guys are betting on the Super Bowl, even

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Speaker 3: though you guys obviously are experts and have a sense

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Speaker 3: you know with this it's like, first of all, they've

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Speaker 3: already tabulated the votes, but also because of all the

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Speaker 3: precursor awards in Hollywood, there are definitely always trends. And

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Speaker 3: this year, which we talked about briefly before you guys

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Speaker 3: you had these dominant films like Schindler's Lists and Dancing

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Speaker 3: but Oppenheimer is going to do very well on Sunday,

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Speaker 3: so it takes some of the teeth out of the

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Speaker 1: Well, yes, and no, I don't get the Appenheimer love.

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Speaker 1: I've now watched it twice. I've spent seven hours of

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Speaker 3: Well, it's only a three hour long movie chat, so

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Speaker 3: what were you doing that other hour?

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Speaker 2: Just oh well, the second time I was streaming it

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Speaker 2: It's sure of the time that I spent watching it. Listen.

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Speaker 1: I know Simon has a lot of thoughts on this,

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Speaker 1: first I want to you know, we touted Laskar as

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Speaker 1: being able to list the winner and nominee for every

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Speaker 1: this is this still true?

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Speaker 2: Michael?

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Speaker 3: It can be. It depends on the category, right, It

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Speaker 1: Best actor category for the film year two thousand and one.

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Speaker 1: Two thousand and two Academy Awards Best Actor nominees were.

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Speaker 3: Okay for two thousand and one and one. Thing I

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Speaker 3: Whereas Data Academy Awards aired in two thousand and two,

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Speaker 1: Two thousand releast year of two thousand and one year

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Speaker 1: two thousand and two correct.

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Speaker 3: So in two thousand and one, Downlow Washington one Best

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Speaker 3: Actor for Training Day. The other nominees were And this

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Speaker 3: was his second OSCAR nomination. He was nominated for crist

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Speaker 3: nominated in ninety two for Malcolm X. And he's been

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Speaker 3: Oh I know this. It's like, oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 3: Of course, Russell Crowe for Beautiful Mind. And Russell Crowe

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Speaker 3: Jim Broadbent for a movie called Iris. Adapted screenplay was

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Speaker 3: Park for Julian Fellows. Yeah, we give to get up

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Speaker 3: earlier in the morning than this.

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Speaker 1: You're now you're just showing off. I'm sorry, and that's

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Speaker 1: totally fine. I loved the movie Gosford was Gosford Park

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Speaker 3: I love that. I know. It's a great movie. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Robert Aldman directed it. It was kind of his swan

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Speaker 3: And then that's that's why you have Downton Abbey. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, which is why I ended up not doing the book,

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Speaker 1: because he stole Downton Abbey And so that's.

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Speaker 3: A huge Are you going to sue Julian Felops?

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Speaker 2: Probably, I'm probably gonna have to assume.

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Speaker 1: All right, Simon, we're going to talk about Oppenheimer's dominance,

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Speaker 1: and Michael just alluded to that. Look, it's the leading

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Speaker 1: contender for Best Picture, Best Director, Actor, Supporting Actor, Cinematography.

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Speaker 1: If you would bet one hundred dollars on a six

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Speaker 1: right now, Simon, as the wise guy, as the professional,

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Speaker 1: making plays on for the Oscars.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll just strow off at the top by saying

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Speaker 4: to win Best Actor for the Whale, And we said

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Speaker 4: all set up, that it wasn't even that great of

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Speaker 4: so much, it kind of felt like the hype was

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Speaker 4: building behind it. So there is sometimes value on the Oscars.

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Speaker 4: The issue is getting money down, Chad. That's the joke here.

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Speaker 4: It's like most books, the max still take is fifty two,

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Speaker 4: one hundred dollars on any of these bets. So for me,

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Speaker 4: you know, Oppenheimer to win Best Picture, to win you know,

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Speaker 4: it's not worth it. Though, with Chad sayings, a lot

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Speaker 4: of what people are gonna do, which is they're gonna

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Speaker 4: parlay the lice together. And that's scary to me, Chad,

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Speaker 4: that there's always one or two upsets, right, There's always

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Speaker 4: something that happens just because these these people feel, you know,

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Speaker 4: in the same movie to win six seven Oscars. It's

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Speaker 4: it's unlikely, Chad.

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Speaker 3: So this year, I think, I mean, Simon, it has

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Speaker 3: been unlikely. As of recent these sort of dominant historical

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Speaker 3: a lot of movies recently where like a movie won

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Speaker 3: like two Oscars and one Best Picture, you know, or

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Speaker 3: three Oscars like Coda, which one Best Picture won three Oscars,

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Speaker 3: Adapted Screenplay, Picture and Supporting Actor. Argo famously in twenty

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Speaker 3: sport actres, excuse me, Adapted Screenplay, Picture and Editing. And

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Speaker 3: so it does happen where it's more spread around. But

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Speaker 3: you know, even last year, everything everywhere, all once which

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Speaker 4: it because it felt like Ryan was born for that

430
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Speaker 4: role as Ken.

431
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Speaker 3: I think you're on is something. You know, What's happened

432
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Speaker 3: the last couple of years there have been movies getting

433
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Speaker 3: a lot of nominations that have gotten zero wins, like

434
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Speaker 3: Banshe's have been a Sharon last year got nine nomination

435
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Speaker 3: zero wins. And what's interesting is an adapted screenplay. Right,

436
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Speaker 3: So the prohibited favorite right now is American Fiction, which

437
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:36,160
Speaker 3: is a good movie written by this guy Court Jefferson,

438
00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: adapted a book. And this has been a controversy in

439
00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 3: Hollywood because the Academy has a special screenwriting committee where

440
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Speaker 3: they have to decide is Barbie an adapted screenplay or

441
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Speaker 3: is it original? And you know, they old We decided

442
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Speaker 3: it was adapted because there's a character. Now, some people say,

443
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,400
Speaker 3: but there's not really a character. It's not adapting, Homer Simpson,

444
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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, It's it's a doll. But

445
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Speaker 3: I think the Academy decided that because there was iconography.

446
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Speaker 3: They felt like there was a text of sorts for

447
00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Greta and Noah bomb Back to play with, so they

448
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:09,879
Speaker 3: deemed it adapted. So but part of me kind of

449
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:13,240
Speaker 3: thinks like that might be where Barbie gets honored, you

450
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Speaker 3: know what I mean, Like Americas has been winning the

451
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,439
Speaker 3: precursor screenplay you know awards and so forth, but this

452
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 3: is the one moment, it's the only Oscar Well gret

453
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Speaker 3: nominated technically for Best you know Picture, because she's a

454
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Speaker 3: producer of the movie. Barbie's not gonna win Best Picture,

455
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Speaker 3: but she could win an Oscar if they give her

456
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Speaker 3: adapted screenplay. So I think you're right. I think Barbie

457
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Speaker 3: is beloved.

458
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Speaker 4: You know.

459
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Speaker 3: The ructions thing is tricky because it's like sometimes they

460
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Speaker 3: think about like did you bring a world to life

461
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Speaker 3: that we knew or did you create your own world?

462
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Speaker 3: And I think with Barbie, it's like, yeah, they made

463
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Speaker 3: the Barbie dream House, but the Barbie dream House existed, right,

464
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Speaker 3: whereas like with poor Things, they kind of like invented,

465
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Speaker 3: not they didn't invent like old time London. But there's

466
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Speaker 3: there's this sense in that movie of like this kind

467
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Speaker 3: of all kind of came from our head a little bit.

468
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Speaker 3: I mean, the productions I was incredible. Actual design an

469
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Speaker 3: Appeneimer was incredible. I mean it's a tough category. Obbeneimer

470
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: is gonna is gonna clean up. It might win categories

471
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,040
Speaker 3: people don't even think it is. I mean, sound design

472
00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 3: is interesting because people think Gone of Interest is gonna

473
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Speaker 3: win because the sound design was so specific of how

474
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Speaker 3: they layered in some of the outside sound of what

475
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Speaker 3: was going on at Auschwitz. But the sound design, you know,

476
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Speaker 3: Guild had their awards on Sunday and they gave it

477
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Speaker 3: to Obeneimer. And a granted Zonovent wasn't. I don't think

478
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Speaker 3: it was eligible because it was not an American film

479
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Speaker 3: or something, so it wasn't even in the in the nominations.

480
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Speaker 3: But Abeneimer is gonna do very well. Uh seven at

481
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Speaker 3: a minimum, maybe like nine for what they.

482
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Speaker 4: The answer Chad though, why, Like, I know you kind

483
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Speaker 4: of went over it, but I know the acting was great.

484
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Speaker 4: But why is it such a slam dunk? Is it

485
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Speaker 4: all because of Killian's history of Pecky Blinders and all

486
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Speaker 4: the movies he's done. Is it just history because of

487
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Speaker 4: you know, christ Rah and Nola are great director. Is

488
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Speaker 4: it all just because of their past? Not so much

489
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Speaker 4: this movie itself.

490
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like they're just giving these guys an

491
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Speaker 2: award even though it's close to the did Anything.

492
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Speaker 3: I think that there's a lot of people in the

493
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Speaker 3: business that just absolutely loved the film and felt like

494
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 3: it was, you know, an astonishing achievement, you know, down

495
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 3: to everything, the editing, the photography, the original score. I'd

496
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Speaker 3: see your point in that, Like, I don't know, if

497
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Speaker 3: it's a movie I'm going to watch ten more times

498
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Speaker 3: in my life, you know what I mean. But it's

499
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,480
Speaker 3: an unbelievably well made film, and like I was saying earlier,

500
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Speaker 3: I think just Nolan's time is here, you know, I

501
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,400
Speaker 3: mean He's going to win, Like I mean, he's I mean,

502
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Speaker 3: it'll be fascinating to like watch his face on Sunday

503
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 3: when they call his name, because he knows his name

504
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 3: is getting called. I think, you know, look, you know,

505
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Speaker 3: part of it is just it is all momentum and frankly,

506
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Speaker 3: like people expected the movie to be good, you know

507
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Speaker 3: what's interesting, And I know this has been talked about

508
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: a lot, but partially what started the whole thing was

509
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Speaker 3: how well it did against Barbie that opening weekend, because

510
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Speaker 3: people assumed it would do fine. The fact that it

511
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Speaker 3: essentially held its own and still made like eighty five

512
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Speaker 3: million bucks on a three hour, you know, adult film.

513
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Speaker 3: It just sent this signal of like we're kind of

514
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Speaker 3: here to stay, and was also interesting. I haven't seen

515
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Speaker 3: the New Dune yet, which here is great, but like

516
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: a lot of people thought, because the first Dune won

517
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 3: like seven Oscars, it won all these technical awards, a

518
00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,199
Speaker 3: lot of people thought that that could really contend for

519
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,440
Speaker 3: the new one. And people are really raving about Denis

520
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 3: Villeneuve's directing, but that got pushed to March because of

521
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,600
Speaker 3: the strike, so everything kind of lined up for Christopher

522
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Speaker 3: Nolan here. So I mean, all I can really say

523
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Speaker 3: is like people in the business love the movie, and

524
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Speaker 3: there's there's a totality to it, partially because of all

525
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Speaker 3: the technical stuff. And sometimes that's what happens. I mean,

526
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Speaker 3: I remember when I was in college, I was like

527
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Speaker 3: obsessed with the movie Traffic, which lost Picture to Gladiator,

528
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Speaker 3: which obviously Gladiators amazing, but Traffic that night wins Director

529
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Speaker 3: for Soderberg, supporting Actor for Del Toro, editing for Steven Marioni,

530
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Speaker 3: and Adapted Screenplay for Stephen Gagan. These are all like

531
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Speaker 3: big precursor awards. But Gladiator, I think because it was

532
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Speaker 3: such a massive spectacle it was picking up some more

533
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Speaker 3: technical awards. It wins Best Picture. So sometimes I think

534
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: you have all you know, there's like nineteen you know, subcommittees,

535
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,159
Speaker 3: you know of the of the oscars, and you have

536
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,199
Speaker 3: the editors and the sound designers and the cinematographers, and

537
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,719
Speaker 3: I think, you know, they're not that big. The biggest

538
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 3: branch obviously the branches. The biggest branch is the actors.

539
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 3: But the acting is amazing Oppenheimer. So I think it's

540
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Speaker 3: I think it's a shoeing. At this point, I wish

541
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Speaker 3: I had a better answer for you beyond that it's

542
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: just a movie that people really have. They want to

543
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Speaker 3: coordinate it, you know.

544
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Speaker 1: Let me do an avery here, and then I have

545
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 1: a point I want to make. Simon, Okay, can you

546
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Speaker 1: name the fastest growing ticketing app in the United States?

547
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 4: Game Time?

548
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: That's right, It's game Time. I love game Time for

549
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: two reasons. First, they still sponsored this show. Second, actually

550
00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: use game Time all the time. They have amazing last

551
00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: minute deals, including pro and college games. Speaking of which,

552
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Speaker 1: I'm opening the game Time app right now from my

553
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: house here in Connecticut. Look at this. I can get

554
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: in to see the New York Knickerbockers at Madison Square

555
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 1: Garden tonight for less than one hundred dollars.

556
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 2: No matter where you live, download the game Time app.

557
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,399
Speaker 2: Get out have some fun this week. You deserve it.

558
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,119
Speaker 1: You can redeem code favorites for twenty dollars off first purchase.

559
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: Terms apply again. Just download the game Time app and

560
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: you use code Favorites for twenty dollars off your first

561
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 1: purchased last minute tickets. Lowest prices, guaranteed traffic never watched again.

562
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:36,680
Speaker 1: Gladiator watched eighteen times, Saving Saving Private Ryan watched a

563
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 1: thousand times. I think it lost to Shakespeare in Love

564
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: that year. Never watched it again.

565
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Speaker 2: That should be the barometer for how every voter is thinking.

566
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Speaker 1: Am I gonna watch Barbie again and again and again

567
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Speaker 1: over the course of my life?

568
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 2: Yes? Am I gonna watch Oppenheimer? No, I'm not.

569
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Speaker 1: And here's my point about sound editing. Oppenheimer should not

570
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Speaker 1: be nominated for sound editing, because I read this and

571
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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. Christopher Nolan is such a

572
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: purist in a good or a bad way that the

573
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 1: way he records the sound, he does not try to

574
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: make it as clear as possible because he's recording it

575
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Speaker 1: on site and wants to use that natural sound. One

576
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Speaker 1: of the reasons I had to watch Oppenheimer again is

577
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: because I could barely understand the dialogue in the first

578
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Speaker 1: forty five minutes of the movie. So when they were

579
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Speaker 1: setting the foundation for the narrative and things that felt

580
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Speaker 1: important about communism or science or Oppenheimer's womanizing, I didn't

581
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: understand it because I couldn't understand what anybody was saying,

582
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Speaker 1: so why would it be nominated for sound and why

583
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Speaker 1: should credit for sound?

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Speaker 3: Look, I think that here's the thing. You're absolutely right,

585
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Speaker 3: and he has gone on the record. What he has

586
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 3: said is that he wants his movies to feel like

587
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Speaker 3: real life. And in real life sometimes you don't hear

588
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Speaker 3: everything that you're hearing in a conversation when you're in

589
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Speaker 3: the middle of the ocean or whatever. I mean, it's

590
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Speaker 3: more about how they sort of like did the blast

591
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Speaker 3: and things like that. Look, it might, it might not

592
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Speaker 3: win that category. I mean, nothing is going to be

593
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 3: you know, completely perfect. But I hear you. You know,

594
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Speaker 3: it's funny you talk about Gladiator and Shakespeare Love. I mean,

595
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 3: that's what makes the Oscar's interesting is that you're getting

596
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: this time capsule what happened that year. And of course,

597
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 3: I mean like there's there's movies, certainly in the last

598
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Speaker 3: twenty five years that have won the Oscar for Best

599
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Speaker 3: Picture that you'll never think about again versus you know,

600
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Speaker 3: movies that you have watched a thousand times. You know,

601
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Speaker 3: one of the craziest years, of course, was ninety four

602
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 3: because you had full fiction Forst. Gump and Showshink Redemption, right,

603
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 3: so you basically have three modern day classics. Now Forrest

604
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Speaker 3: Gump wins Best Picture. But you know, and I love

605
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Speaker 3: Forrest Gump, you know, I mean, who doesn't love Forrest Gump?

606
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Speaker 3: But I think that, you know, the Academy has they

607
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Speaker 3: have these whims. This guy, Michael Schumann wrote a really

608
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Speaker 3: good book called Oscar Wars, and he talked a lot

609
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Speaker 3: about the ninety eight the ninety eight Awards when Harvey Weinstein,

610
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Speaker 3: who's in jail now for the rest of his life

611
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 3: where he should be, waged this man assive battle to

612
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Speaker 3: get Shakespeare in Love the Oscar over Sam private Ryan,

613
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Speaker 3: and they just had all these tactics, like they basically

614
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 3: started a whisper campaign that they tried to get people

615
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 3: to believe that the movie was only good for thirty minutes.

616
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 3: Then basically the first sequence on the on the Beaches

617
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 3: of Normandy was the best movie ever made, and the

618
00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: rest of it was kind of boring, you know. I mean,

619
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Speaker 3: they went out of their way to try to sort

620
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Speaker 3: of poison the Wells and that was a stunner. I remember,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Harrison Ford announced Best Picture of that year.

622
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Speaker 3: Obviously they don't design who's announcing nobody knows who's gonna win,

623
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Speaker 3: but they clearly thought, well, we think Shakespeare Love is

624
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 3: gonna win, and Harrison Ford's type with Steven Spielberg because

625
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: of you know, the Raiders of Lost Dark movies and

626
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 3: so forth, Indiana Jones and you know, this will be

627
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Speaker 3: like a nice, a nice little coronation, and then it

628
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 3: didn't happen. There's a lot of movies like that. I mean,

629
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Speaker 3: I certainly liked Green Book. I don't know if I'll

630
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Speaker 3: ever like see it again, that one best picture in

631
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Speaker 3: twenty eighteen. Yeah, oh, you've never revisited green Book. You know,

632
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Speaker 3: this is the most subjective art form and most of

633
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 3: you have to business ever, and that's kind of what

634
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 3: you're what you're speaking to. And by the way, I

635
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 3: now like if you said, well, can I take Gladiator

636
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Speaker 3: or Traffic to like a desert island? I would take

637
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Speaker 3: Gladiator because it's you know, I mean, it's just it's

638
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Speaker 3: the pomp and circumstance of it.

639
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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: We talked about best actor for a second Killian Murphy

641
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Speaker 1: minus fourteen hundred, Paul Giamatti plus nine hundred, Bradley Cooper,

642
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Speaker 1: who we haven't talked about at all, but Maestro has

643
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Speaker 1: basically not been a conversation for any of these categories,

644
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Speaker 1: even though it came out with so much sort of

645
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Speaker 1: pomp and circumstance, and people really believe even in Carrie Mulligan,

646
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: like everyone's like Kerry Mulligan's going to win for back

647
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: that best Actress. She's now thirty three to one. But

648
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: the Killian Murphy story is great. Loved him in Peaky Blinders,

649
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: almost wanted him to be the Peaky Blinders guy in this.

650
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Speaker 1: In this movie, I felt like he was like the

651
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 1: movie itself, so much of it is in black and white,

652
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Speaker 1: and I felt like a lot of times it downplayed

653
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: his magnetism in this movie, which also I think is

654
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Speaker 1: a credit to him and sort of the way he

655
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Speaker 1: played it. But Andrew Scott, Oh yeah, your boys, all

656
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Speaker 1: of us strangers. How is he not nominated?

657
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Speaker 2: Because so this is what happened.

658
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 3: I saw the movie. I thought it was great. It's

659
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: a really beautiful film. He's amazing in it. He's an

660
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,720
Speaker 3: incredible actor. I first saw him with the very first

661
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Speaker 3: time pre Fleabag. He played Moriority on the Bennetticummerbatch Sherlock

662
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 3: series for BBC, and he was amazing, and that led

663
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Speaker 3: to him being in James Bond and then the Bag

664
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Speaker 3: being the priest and on and on, and he's an

665
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Speaker 3: incredible actor. That was this weird thing where that movie

666
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: was like a festival movie and all the prognosticators, all

667
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,640
Speaker 3: the podcasters, all the critics saw and they were like,

668
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 3: this thing is going to contend. But it was ultimately

669
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Speaker 3: a really, really small movie. And it's just for whatever reason.

670
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Speaker 3: I mean, it just did not gain any traction. And

671
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Speaker 3: you look at the movies that got nominated for the

672
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Speaker 3: ten slots, all of them had traction. This was an

673
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Speaker 3: incredible year for movies. I could argue there were about

674
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Speaker 3: fifteen movies that could have gotten those ten slots. And

675
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Speaker 3: now we're in Hollywood' worried this year will be a

676
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Speaker 3: very bad year for movies because there's less output because

677
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Speaker 3: of the strikes last year. So it's one of those movies.

678
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Speaker 3: Like people in the business who saw it thought it

679
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: was great. People think he's brilliant, people love Paul mescal

680
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,799
Speaker 3: who was nominated for Oscar last year. But yeah, it's

681
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Speaker 3: just the only answer is it was too small. It

682
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 3: was too small, and it was too quiet. And I

683
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Speaker 3: also think Frankly, a lot of people watched it at home.

684
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Speaker 3: And that is a movie where like you really need

685
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Speaker 3: to put your phone down, you really need to have

686
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Speaker 3: the lights out. It's not suggest that it's you know,

687
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Speaker 3: seeing Dune and you got to see it with like

688
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,280
Speaker 3: Dolby's round sound. But that movie is such a tone

689
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: poem of a film because you don't quite know what's happening, right,

690
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 3: and like is this reality? Is he dreaming? Wait? Now

691
00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: he's seeing his parents? Oh, his parents are dead? And

692
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Speaker 3: I think that's a movie if you saw in the theater.

693
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Speaker 3: A lot people feel this way about Past Lives, which

694
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Speaker 3: was nominated for a couple of Oscars but got some snubs.

695
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Speaker 3: You got to see it in the theater and let

696
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Speaker 3: it like wash over you. I mean, that's a whole

697
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Speaker 3: nother podcast. On another debate, there's obviously, you know, a

698
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Speaker 3: substitute seeing a movie at home. I don't care if

699
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Speaker 3: like you're in pitch black darkness and you know there's

700
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Speaker 3: no electricity except your TV. It's just not the same

701
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Speaker 3: as going to a movie theater. It's just not the

702
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Speaker 3: same collective. It's always always better to do it, and

703
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Speaker 3: that goes back to Oppenheimer I mean, Obeneimer was an

704
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Speaker 3: event and the same way Barbie was an event. But

705
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Speaker 3: it's like, I mean, those numbers were insane, you know.

706
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: I mean they were still like two months in you

707
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 3: couldn't get to like a good IMAX screening. It's funny,

708
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Speaker 3: Chad that you talk about not being able to hear

709
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Speaker 3: the dialogue in Abenheimer because I went with a group

710
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Speaker 3: of people to Grauman's Chinese, which is, you know, on

711
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Speaker 3: some days, considered the best theater in LA because they

712
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Speaker 3: have all the premieres or it has all the history.

713
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Speaker 3: It's an incredible, beautiful theater. But this sounds like a

714
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Speaker 3: little tinny And there was a ton of stuff I

715
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 3: couldn't understand. And my wife was pregnant, we just had

716
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Speaker 3: our second kid, and she was just like, I mean

717
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Speaker 3: ten minutes and she's like I need to leave. And

718
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Speaker 3: she didn't. She stayed, but she just was like, I'm

719
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Speaker 3: not this is not for me today, you know.

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Speaker 2: But that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, dude, I had the same exact conversation

722
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Speaker 1: with my wife. I'm like, did you can you She's

723
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Speaker 1: like she's like, I got no fucking idea what they're saying.

724
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Speaker 1: Like we were with our seventeen year old. I'm like,

725
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Speaker 1: do you know what's going on? He shut up, I

726
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 1: hear everything. Just stop talking.

727
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Speaker 3: I love the movie, I really did. But the minute

728
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Speaker 3: it ended, I said two things. I have to see

729
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: it again, and I have to go read the book.

730
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Speaker 3: And I started the book and the book is seven

731
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Speaker 3: in her pages and I got about ten pages in.

732
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Speaker 3: But I want to understand the book.

733
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Speaker 1: I'm not reading that book. You're not reading that book.

734
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Speaker 1: No one's reading that book. No one read that book

735
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Speaker 1: when he came out. That's why it took eighty five

736
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Speaker 1: years to me to make this movie.

737
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Speaker 3: You know what's really weird is that? So? So what

738
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 3: happened was Nolan wanted to do a movie aout Oppenheimer.

739
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Speaker 3: Nolan was at the ranch of Chuck Rogan, who's a

740
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Speaker 3: big producer who produced the Batman movies with Christopher Nolan,

741
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Speaker 3: and he mentioned that he was researching Openemer, and Rovean says, oh,

742
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Speaker 3: I have the option on a book about Imer. Then

743
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: randomly he had gotten from James Woods. So if you

744
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: go on IMDb right now, James Woods, the actor who's

745
00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 3: been nominated for two Oscars, who's not in Holiday anymore,

746
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Speaker 3: who's like considered like a crazed like right wing nut

747
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: like lunatic. He has a credit on Openheimer because he

748
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Speaker 3: had gotten the rights to that book at some point

749
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Speaker 3: and then I guess he gave it to Chuck Rogan,

750
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Speaker 3: and Chuck Rogan gave it. So if they win the

751
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:43,800
Speaker 3: Oscar on Sunday, the three people that will accept the

752
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,800
Speaker 3: Oscar for Best Picture are Nolan, his wife, Emma Thomas,

753
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Speaker 3: and Chuck Rogan. Chuck Rogan was nominated in twenty fourteen

754
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,760
Speaker 3: for American Hustle. That's his other Oscar nomination.

755
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Speaker 2: Here's another trivia question for you.

756
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Speaker 3: Yeah, this one's harder.

757
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Speaker 1: Okay, what picture winner released in the nineteen eighties has

758
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Speaker 1: the lowest Tomato meter score on Rotten Tomatoes The lowest

759
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Speaker 1: Tomato meter of the movies that won Best Picture in

760
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Speaker 1: the nineteen.

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Speaker 3: Let's think about this. The Best Picture is nineteen eighty

762
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Speaker 3: in order in nineteen eighty is Ordinary People, and then

763
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 3: Chariots of Fire, and then Gandhi and then Terms of

764
00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 3: Endearment and then amedeis Amideus and then Out of Africa

765
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Speaker 3: and then Platoon, last Emperor rain Man Driving Miss Daisy.

766
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Speaker 3: So those are the movies that won ninety eight nine.

767
00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 3: All those are considered really good movies, And so that

768
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Speaker 3: has the lowest tomato meter, I mean, and.

769
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Speaker 2: There's one that has the lowest by a mile, by a.

770
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Speaker 3: Mile, okay, And let me let's use some to doctive reasoning.

771
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Speaker 3: I don't think it's ordinary people, and I don't think

772
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Speaker 3: it's chariots a fire, correct, And it wouldn't be gondhy

773
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Speaker 3: Be in terms of endearment, and it wouldn't be on

774
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Speaker 3: the Dais, it wouldn't be Out of Africa. I mean,

775
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: it's gonna be I mean, I think it has to

776
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Speaker 3: be Rainman. I'm not beginning to answer yet, but it

777
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 3: has to be rain Man, because that's the most like

778
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 3: kind of populist of the movies. Simon is shaking his head,

779
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 3: and that's the most populoust of the movies where I

780
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: could see, like, that's not like when something like Out

781
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 3: of Africa comes out, everyone just like fawns over it

782
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Speaker 3: because of you know what it is. I'm gonna it's

783
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Speaker 3: it's either a platoon or rain Man, because maybe I

784
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: don't know because the violence, but I can tell that

785
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 3: I'm going to get this wrong, and I'm gonna go

786
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Speaker 3: with the rain Man.

787
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Speaker 1: You're you're not only are you wrong, but like, actually,

788
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Speaker 1: there are four movies that got eighty nine percent, that's

789
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 1: the highest. Platoon is one of them. And then one

790
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:50,000
Speaker 1: movie got eighty eight percent.

791
00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: It's Rainman.

792
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, fair enough, Simon, what is your thinking?

793
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: I feel like Simon is going to get this right,

794
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Speaker 1: and he's going to get it right for the exact

795
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Speaker 1: right populist reason.

796
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Speaker 4: Honest, I've heard of all of them except the Miss

797
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Speaker 4: Daisy one, So that's all I was gonna go with

798
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Speaker 4: that one.

799
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Speaker 1: Oh no, driving Miss Daisy got That was Morgan Freeman

800
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Speaker 1: and Jessica Tandy.

801
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Speaker 2: I believe.

802
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Speaker 3: Yeah, she won Best as she won Best Actress. At

803
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Speaker 3: the time, she was the oldest person ever win an oscar.

804
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Speaker 2: That's right.

805
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Speaker 1: That got eighty five percent out of Africa sixty three percent.

806
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Speaker 3: That's so interesting because I mean, I've seen it. It's

807
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,760
Speaker 3: a good movie. I mean that was That was Sidney

808
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Speaker 3: Pollock's coronation, right. Sidney Pollack had popped up in the sixties,

809
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Speaker 3: and then he made all these movies with Robert Redford

810
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Speaker 3: in the seventies, classic films like Three Days of the Contra.

811
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Speaker 3: He made Tootsie. He also acted. By the way, I

812
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: just rewatched The Sopranos. I literally finished it on Saturday night.

813
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Speaker 3: I just hadn't watched it in a long time, and

814
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Speaker 3: I forgot Sidney Pollack's In the final season of The

815
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Speaker 3: Sopranos when Johnny Sack is in the medical prison dying

816
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Speaker 3: of lung cancer, Sidney Pollock is an orderly who's there

817
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Speaker 3: in prison because he killed his wife and he was

818
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Speaker 3: a doctor, and he's giving Johnny Sack medical advice. And

819
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Speaker 3: you know Cidy Pollock, you know he's in is White Shot.

820
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Speaker 3: You know he's he's the guy who has the party

821
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Speaker 3: with the prostitute dies. I mean, Michael, he was an actor.

822
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Speaker 3: What do you say, Michael Clayton. He's Michael Clayton. He

823
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 3: was an amazing actor, and he was somebody that all

824
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Speaker 3: these incredible filmmakers all loved and wanted to put their

825
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Speaker 3: movies now famously and I White Shot. He replaced Harvey

826
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Speaker 3: kaye Tell. Harvey kay Tell was in that role and

827
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Speaker 3: he walked off the set because he couldn't deal with

828
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Speaker 3: Kubrick's like shooting style, because Cooper would do like one

829
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Speaker 3: hundred takes so that they called it Sidney Paleck, and

830
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Speaker 3: I'm sure he spent five months to shoot two scenes,

831
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Speaker 3: you know, but he was he was brilliant.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's recap here.

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Speaker 1: Oppenheimer is going to win everything. We certainly think it's

834
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Speaker 1: going to win Best Picture. We think it's going to

835
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Speaker 1: win Best Director. We think Downey is going to win

836
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Speaker 1: Best Supporting Actor.

837
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Speaker 3: That's three locks.

838
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Speaker 1: We think Killian Murphy is going to win Best Actor.

839
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Speaker 1: He certainly has the he's the favorite by a.

840
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Speaker 2: Mile, yep.

841
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Speaker 1: But there could be Gamatti sentiment, so maybe there's a

842
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: bit of a well.

843
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 3: Here, I'll tell you right now, sorry to interrupt you,

844
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Speaker 3: this we have to look for. Okay, one category we

845
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: didn't discuss, and these there's always sort of tips in

846
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Speaker 3: the night as the awards, you know, get rolled out.

847
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Speaker 3: Best Original Screenplay, which is basically between Anatomy of the

848
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Speaker 3: Fall is an excellent movie, between a nant fall and

849
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Speaker 3: The Holdovers. Anatomy of the Fall kind of has the

850
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480
Speaker 3: edge because that's everyone's kind of favorite, like in the

851
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Speaker 3: European film, and she's you know, been winning a lot

852
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 3: of stuff. But when Barbie got moved from original screenplay

853
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 3: to adapt it, people thought that really favored The Holdovers.

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Speaker 3: Now Divine Joy Randolph, I might be mistronouncing her first name.

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Speaker 3: She's gonna win Supporting Actress for Holdovers. Uh, so that

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Speaker 3: that's gonna happen. And if you see early in the

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Speaker 3: Night or when they announced the screenplays, if Dave Hemingson

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Speaker 3: wins original screenplay for The Holdovers, I would bet you

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Speaker 3: anything Giamatti is gonna win Best Actor. If he doesn't,

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Speaker 3: then killing is gonna win all the way. And again

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Speaker 3: it doesn't to your listeners. Know, it doesn't mean that

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Speaker 3: anything can change. The votes have been tabulated. But what

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Speaker 3: it means is is their momentum, you know, and and

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Speaker 3: you know there was a time where actually thought Holdovers

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Speaker 3: And by the way, Holdovers was released by Focus, which

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Speaker 3: is owned by Universal. Universal made Oppenheimer, and trust me,

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Speaker 3: the main bosses at Universal do not want anything to

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Speaker 3: get in the way of Oppenheimer's you know, domination on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: But the reason why this is valuable info is because

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Speaker 1: if we see the screenwriting win, it's possible we could

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Speaker 1: still get some money down for Best Actor on GMT.

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Speaker 3: Oh, can you bet that late in the podcast.

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that's something to think about if

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Speaker 3: I mean begins, I was going to I was gonna

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Speaker 3: tell you earlier. And this is something that actually that

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Speaker 3: we talked about. I think that Bill Simmons had brought

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Speaker 3: and he'd bet Coda in like October of that year

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Speaker 3: to win Best Picture and actually like made money on it.

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Speaker 3: And I think in a weird way, that's the only

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Speaker 3: And by the way, we should do it sometime. I'll

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Speaker 3: of bets because you have a sense at that point

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Speaker 3: would probably be very different.

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Speaker 2: The other one Best Actress.

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Speaker 1: This is where it might be most competitive, because Lily

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Speaker 1: Gladstone is only minus one sixty Emma Stone plus one twenty.

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Speaker 1: Anything that I missed, Simon, anything that I missed that

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Speaker 1: we feel there might be an opportunity. Anything you bet

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Speaker 1: that we didn't discuss that we want to get some.

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Speaker 2: Validation on.

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Speaker 3: Just pick what you just said.

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Speaker 4: She's moved actually minus two ten and a lot of books,

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Speaker 4: so she's it's looking more and more like she's gonna

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Speaker 4: She did so, like he just said, that feels like

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Speaker 4: great value for a girl that's already beloved by all

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Speaker 4: the actors and actresses of Hollywood, and it seems like

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Speaker 4: she's gonna start blowing up now. So that just makes sense.

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Speaker 4: And minus two tenant a couple of books. That's good

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Speaker 3: But we just talked.

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Speaker 4: We can talk about it. Godzilla minus one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's kind of a good sleeper where you

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Speaker 4: compare those together and get a nice number. They're minus

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Speaker 4: one fifty a lot of books. This spidy like really

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I like that. Yeah, that's smart all right.

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