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Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you

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Speaker 1: inside the building NRG Stadium right here in the Hunday

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Speaker 1: Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandermayer with you, joined on a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night. As always, as usual, the General is with us.

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Speaker 1: John mcclaimed from the Houston Chronicle. John, how are you doing, Mark?

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great. Posted my second Mark Draft with Aaron

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Speaker 1: Wilson today and I last week. I had Andre Dillard

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Speaker 1: to left tackle from Washington State with the first pick.

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Speaker 1: My two second round picks Temple corner rock y'all sin

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Speaker 1: and Wisconsin tackle David Edwards, who's a right tackle. This

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Speaker 1: week I threw a curveball, probably the only time I

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Speaker 1: do it. I had cornerback Byron Murphy with the first

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Speaker 1: pick and two offensive tackles, left tackle Yadni Kajusty from

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Speaker 1: West Virginia, and then the right tackle. I had Kayla

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Speaker 1: McGarry from Washington, a four year starter at right tackle

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Speaker 1: who not only has his undergraduate degree but has a master's.

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Speaker 1: And he's six seven and he's been a right tackle

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Speaker 1: for four years in a pro style offense and knows

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Speaker 1: how to put his hand in the ground, so wesconsin

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Speaker 1: places pro style offense, so does Washington. It just seems

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Speaker 1: like it would be an easier transition. And who puts

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Speaker 1: out better offensive layman in the NFL than the University

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Speaker 1: of Wisconsin. Well, John, let me ask you this. I've

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Speaker 1: got a lot of questions based on what you just saw.

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Speaker 1: One comment though, of all the names he just mentioned, statistically,

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Speaker 1: only maybe two guys are going to end up being

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Speaker 1: very solid NFL players. Right, statistically statistically, but I think

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Speaker 1: when you're second rounders, you expect the first rounder to

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Speaker 1: start immediately away. But Andre Dillard from Washington State, probably

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Speaker 1: the best pass protecting offensive tackle out there, came from

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Speaker 1: Mike Leach's offense, played in a two point stance, and

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Speaker 1: his stock keeps going up. I don't think he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be there at twenty three, okay, And I also have

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Speaker 1: six offensive six tackles going in the first round, none high,

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Speaker 1: but then starting at about I think with Buffalo going down,

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be a run on them. Because

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Speaker 1: there's so many great defensive linemen. People are gonna say,

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Speaker 1: let's keep the guys who keep those defensive linemen off

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Speaker 1: our quarterback. We'll get the defensive guys in the second round.

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Speaker 1: So Dillard is a tremendous pass protector who needs work

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Speaker 1: on run blocking. And then David Edwards, the right tackle

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Speaker 1: from Wisconsin. I think he you know, the fact he

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Speaker 1: comes from a pro style offense might make a transition

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Speaker 1: easier for him, the same as Caleb McGarry from Washington. Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I are doing twelve of these. I got ten more.

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Speaker 1: A quarterback in there at some point, and just I

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Speaker 1: want to be different every week, but I also want

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Speaker 1: to be somebody I think the Texans need and would

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Speaker 1: fit what they do here. All right, If all right,

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Speaker 1: let's you have three picks in the first two rounds.

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Speaker 1: If it's not a corner or a tackle among those three,

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Speaker 1: what's the likeliest position other than corner a tackle they

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Speaker 1: would take with the first three picks in their arsenal Well,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I do not see any scenario where

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Speaker 1: they don't where Brian Gaine does not take a tackle

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Speaker 1: with the first round pick, because there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: value at twenty three. Now, the corners, it's not a

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Speaker 1: great year for corners, better year for tackles. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: free agency. It is the worst year free agency for corners.

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Speaker 1: I can remember, maybe a couple will be cut because

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Speaker 1: they make too much money. But right now you're not

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Speaker 1: going to get a starting corner. And free agency I

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Speaker 1: don't believe. But it's a little better for offensive tackles,

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Speaker 1: but not like the draft. So say in the second

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Speaker 1: round they took a corner and took somebody beside the tackle.

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Speaker 1: I think another pass rusher. I think they need a

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Speaker 1: third pass rusher, even if they resigned Clowney. Even well,

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Speaker 1: Clowney's not going anywhere, and I think he'll be franchise.

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Speaker 1: So you got JJ and you got Clowney. You need

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Speaker 1: somebody to do what Whitney used to do, seven or

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Speaker 1: eight sacks. Somebody could come off the bench, and if

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Speaker 1: it's inside, that's even better, all right, So pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: see pass rusher at some point in the draft. And

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Speaker 1: by the way, along those lines, I think we're all

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Speaker 1: curious to see what Duke Gegevor could do in year two.

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Speaker 1: They like DoD flashed, and you know how it is,

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Speaker 1: those guys make their biggest improvement usually between the first

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Speaker 1: and second season. And that's why I'm eager to see

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Speaker 1: so many of these talented rookies last year what they're

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Speaker 1: gonna do. Like I believe Martinez rank and will start

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Speaker 1: everybody talked about him as an inside player, and I

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Speaker 1: think y'all start him outside because you needed tackles. But

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be ticketed inside and I can see him

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Speaker 1: starting and then probably Zach Fulton back at the Wrighting

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Speaker 1: and two new offensive tackles. And but okay, let me

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Speaker 1: ask you then, if it's not a pass rusher, and

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Speaker 1: I think they need a third one, especially inside, what

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Speaker 1: would you what do you think it could be? All right?

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Speaker 1: The upset pick early on would be either a wide

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Speaker 1: and Aaron Wilson's first MOG draft he had in Singletary

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Speaker 1: from Florida Atlantic in the second round, I just don't

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Speaker 1: see with the needs a tackle and corner going away. Now,

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Speaker 1: if you take a receiver in a second round, you

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Speaker 1: think it depends a lot on where they take the receiver.

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Speaker 1: What do you think of Vincent Smith? Now say there's

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Speaker 1: say there's a free agent out there, like when Cecil

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Speaker 1: Swords came here or Nate Washington. They're older, They're not

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Speaker 1: gonna make a lot of money in the agents say yeah,

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Speaker 1: you would be the fourth receiver, but two of them

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Speaker 1: have been hurt a lot. We put a lot of

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Speaker 1: bonuses in there based on your playoff time. Gonna catch

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Speaker 1: his yards, he got a chance to make money. If

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Speaker 1: you go to Houston and if you draft a guy

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Speaker 1: in a second round, he's got to contribute. And you

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Speaker 1: don't go in thinking, Okay, Fuller and QT are gonna

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Speaker 1: get hurt. You go in thinking, okay, they're they're gonna

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Speaker 1: stay healthy now, So that fourth guy better be somebody

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Speaker 1: you know can contribute. And I really like Jordan Thomas

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Speaker 1: and Jordan Nakens. I like the tight ends. I don't

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Speaker 1: say I'm ever putting four white outs in there. When

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Speaker 1: you got tight ends you can catch like the Texans

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Speaker 1: have John. Why does so many of these national draft

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Speaker 1: pundits highlight a Texans need as tight end? Tight end

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Speaker 1: is up there in the top three with some of

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Speaker 1: would think so because they drafted two last year and

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Speaker 1: they looked pretty good. I thought if Jordan Thomas's four

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Speaker 1: touchdown catches. Everyone of them was a good catch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you call them. It wasn't like they were all perfect passes.

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Speaker 1: Oh yes, he did touchdown and he's got great hands

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Speaker 1: and what Owen Daniels had five touchdown catches as a

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Speaker 1: So still a great year for him, considering the ball

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Speaker 1: like that. I want to see what Aikens does. Ryan

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Speaker 1: If you ask me what position with the Texan the

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Speaker 1: the top of my list. And as far as a

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Speaker 1: running back, Lamar Miller's going to the last year of

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Speaker 1: his contract. I keep people. Hear people talking about his

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Speaker 1: cap figure right now, a Texas guy like seventy eight million.

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Speaker 1: They're not cutting guys because of the cap figure. They

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Speaker 1: didn't cut the Marrius Thomas for the cap money. They

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Speaker 1: he had not been heard, they'd been negotiating a lesser contract,

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Speaker 1: and we wouldn't be having the wide receiver cover of course,

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Speaker 1: and so I and then a lot of depends on

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Speaker 1: Deante Foreman. Is he serious about football? Is he gonna

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Speaker 1: be in shape? Is he gonna be over here like

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Speaker 1: I saw Jonathan Joseph working out. Jonathan jose is working

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Speaker 1: out like crazy. Most of the players are. They're not

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Speaker 1: They're not around going around the country and traveling and eating.

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Speaker 1: They're getting ready. They're hungry after what happened last year.

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Speaker 1: Dealte Foreman needs to do that. Now. If we see

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Speaker 1: them draft a running back and say second or third round,

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Speaker 1: chance the otay form is not gonna make the team. Well,

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Speaker 1: I think they would want him to at least try.

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Speaker 1: And it's kind of like the cornerback thing. It's like, well,

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Speaker 1: if you bring everybody back, you got some names, you

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Speaker 1: The wide receiver situation as well as far as running

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Speaker 1: gotta bring somebody I SI round. You know. That's that's

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Speaker 1: ignoring a big issue on this team late in the season,

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Speaker 1: which is your running game went dry or too dry

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Speaker 1: rusher for the last five games. That's not how you're

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Speaker 1: I know it's not all about running back, it's about

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Speaker 1: Not that Lamar Miller is no good. He's good, but

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Speaker 1: you have to have more in addition. That's how these

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Speaker 1: the world. And I can't wait to see how free

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Speaker 1: agency plays out. I am amazed Mark and all these

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Speaker 1: national media types that have Clowney being clown He's going

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Speaker 1: to be the hottest guy out there, and I'm like, uh,

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Speaker 1: he's not going to be available. Do the Texans have

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Speaker 1: stupid written across their forehead where they's gonna say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: thank you nice knowing you you're unrestricted, so you franchise

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Speaker 1: him in your opinion, and you can tenue to try

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Speaker 1: to negotiate a contract, or you can trade him. Now

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Speaker 1: you don't have to trade him for the two ones

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Speaker 1: or whatever. You could trade him for whatever you want. Well,

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Speaker 1: they would get two ones for guy's never had ten sacks.

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Speaker 1: That's why he would get the big bucks is because

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Speaker 1: he's not a consistent peerless price with Buffalo when they

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Speaker 1: franchised him. And yes, you could have gotten two number

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Speaker 1: ones for him, but nobody was willing to give that up,

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Speaker 1: so Atlanta gave up a one. They made that agreement.

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Speaker 1: He went to the Falcons actually ended up back with

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Speaker 1: the Bills later and caught a game winner against the

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Speaker 1: Texans here in this building. Stop me now, but I

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Speaker 1: remember that particular situation. So you never know what the

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Speaker 1: deal that was peerless price. In this case, if the

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Speaker 1: Texans traded Jadevon Clowney and you didn't get a disruptive

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Speaker 1: front seven defensive player in return, it would be disastrous.

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Speaker 1: And the reason is this. You can't take draft choices.

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Speaker 1: You're playing a much tougher schedule. You got all these

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks. You can't take out the second most disruptive

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Speaker 1: a catcher. But to me, the pitcher of the catcher

426
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Speaker 1: doing ninety percent of the work everybody else is standing around.

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Speaker 1: Is this even exercise? You know, I know practices, but

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Speaker 1: I don't. I'd like, I don't enjoy going to the

429
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Speaker 1: game as far as seeing my kid play a sport.

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Speaker 1: He's standing out in the outfield. I'm like, hey, son,

431
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,159
Speaker 1: you know basketball, everybody's moving, even if you're not scoring,

432
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Speaker 1: you're moving, You're contributing to the cause. I like that

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Speaker 1: part of its soccer even and I don't like watching that,

434
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Speaker 1: But give me basketball every day football terrific. One a

435
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Speaker 1: vandered kid. You're watching him and he's good, you're thinking

436
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Speaker 1: minimum salary to an a half million, Then I'm all

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Speaker 1: in John. But you know, if he's on the mound,

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Speaker 1: then I'm watching him. He's not a picture so the

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Speaker 1: picture and the catch are great. You know he gets

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Speaker 1: an ALP bad every hour. You know, you're standing out

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Speaker 1: there in the Texas cold, which for Texas is like

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Speaker 1: sixty degrees in Windy Okay. How about a central Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, did you see this video. All right, So

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Speaker 1: the Chippawas of Central Michigan. And this is a great example.

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Speaker 1: I was talking to a bi little bright about this

446
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Speaker 1: how because his kid is a really good picture, right,

447
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Speaker 1: and I was talking to him about baseball down here.

448
00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 1: You know, they're all outside in January playing baseball. Up north,

449
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 1: you can't go outside, so we're like talking about that.

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Speaker 1: He's from Massachusetts, and I sent up this video the Chippawas,

451
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Speaker 1: Central Michigan. They're baseball field right now. This is pretty

452
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Speaker 1: at baseball school. Traditionally for a Northern program. It's frozen solid,

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Speaker 1: and they have a guy in the dugout like playball,

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Speaker 1: and he runs out of the dugout on ice skates

455
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Speaker 1: and he skates across the time kid and he's taking grounders.

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Speaker 1: The video went virals. Yeah, it's it's really something to

457
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Speaker 1: see because it shows you the difference. You know, you

458
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Speaker 1: got rice out here and it's the right sunshine, and

459
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Speaker 1: they're getting ready for the season, and you got them

460
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Speaker 1: and they come down for three week road trips. Yeah,

461
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Speaker 1: they'll come down for a road trip and get waxed

462
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Speaker 1: because it's their first time outside. I'm always amazed at

463
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Speaker 1: those schools up North make the College World Series when

464
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Speaker 1: most of those teams from the South and the West

465
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Speaker 1: goes have played so many more games for so much long.

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Speaker 1: You gotta get lucky. You gotta break through the starting

467
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Speaker 1: pitcher in one of these regionals, and then you know,

468
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Speaker 1: if things twist right for you, You You got a couple

469
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Speaker 1: of good arms yourself, and maybe it breaks right and

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Speaker 1: by then you've been outside a lot. You got your

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Speaker 1: rhythm going. Anyway. It didn't mean to get off on

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Speaker 1: that tangent, although maybe I did. It's Tangent Radio six

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Speaker 1: Tim All right, we're gonna continue with John McClane and

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Speaker 1: then get into it with John Harris. Topics will be addressed,

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Speaker 1: including but not limited to former Texans quarterback Case Keena.

476
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: What's gonna happen with him now that the Flacco deal

477
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Speaker 1: is going down? You know, we want to weigh in

478
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Speaker 1: on that one more time, and a whole bunch of

479
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Speaker 1: other stuff. Just stick around on Texans Radio having fun

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Speaker 1: on Valentine's Day. It's Texans Radio. Mark Vandermer with you

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Speaker 1: in the Hunday Texans Radio Studio. John mcleans sticking around

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Speaker 1: for at least a half segment or so, and let's

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Speaker 1: pick up the conversation John with Case keenum. He's in

484
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Speaker 1: play now that Joe Flacco is on his way to

485
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Speaker 1: Denver eventually when the league year begins. I wish we

486
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Speaker 1: could announce these things officially a lot sooner. But anyway,

487
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Speaker 1: where's he gonna go? Is he definitely going to be

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Speaker 1: a backup? Or will he go someplace where he has

489
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Speaker 1: a snowball's chance to start, like maybe Arizona if they

490
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Speaker 1: don't like Josh Rosen or Buffalo if Josh Allen falls

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Speaker 1: out of his face? What is the deal with Case?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm listening to the NFL network all

493
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Speaker 1: of him going about what a great deal that was,

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Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, no, wait a minute. Flacco's ad four

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Speaker 1: bed mediocre years, his radio has been under the NFL

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Speaker 1: average four years in a row. He's been hurt every

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Speaker 1: year as well, And why is this a good deal?

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00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: Because Johnny Elway made it when Johnny always struggled getting

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks to Denver ever since Gary Kubiak left, And so

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Case. I feel bad for him, but

501
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Speaker 1: he finally made some money. Of course, we would all

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Speaker 1: love to see Case be the backup here, but anybody

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Speaker 1: coming to the Texans has to be like Brandon Whedon.

504
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 1: They know they're lot in life. They're not going to

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Speaker 1: play barring injury. They have to be like a coach

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Speaker 1: on the sideline, which Brandon is in which Case could be.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about Whedon, but Case is going to

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Speaker 1: be a coach like his daddy went. His career's over

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Speaker 1: and everybody should want to have Case keenum. But I'm

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Speaker 1: like you, I don't see Case going somewhere. And they say, look,

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Speaker 1: the only time you're playing is an injury. And because

512
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of situations, they're kind of iffy. Well,

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Speaker 1: one of the if he's is Denver, there's no guarantee

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Speaker 1: when Flacco has been hurt for four years that he

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Speaker 1: is going to stay healthy sixteen games. If I'm John

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Speaker 1: Elway and I can afford it, I keep Case around

517
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Speaker 1: backing up Flacco. Otherwise you got to go get another quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Because I just don't understand where everybody thinks it's such

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Speaker 1: a good deal. Well, they had to do something right.

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Speaker 1: They couldn't stand Pat Flacco was better than Case in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and twelve. Is he better than him? Now?

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Speaker 1: What do you think happened there? John because Flacco was

523
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Speaker 1: a great story for a while. He made the playoffs

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Speaker 1: each of the first five seasons in the league. Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: along with him because Harball came in the same year

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Speaker 1: as Flacco. In the fifth year, they win the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl together, and after that, obviously, once you win a

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Speaker 1: super Bowl, you have nowhere to go but doubt unless

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Speaker 1: you're the Patriots, and you stay there every year pretty much.

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Speaker 1: So what happened to Joe Flacco? He played well in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and fourteen when Kubiak that was his best

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Speaker 1: year ever. That was the best year for the Ravens office,

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Speaker 1: and he got the big contract, and then he started

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Speaker 1: getting hurt fifteen six seven. He's been hurt for four years,

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Speaker 1: including last season, and the Ravens thought so little of him.

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Speaker 1: They started Lamar Jackson and kept him as they should have,

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Speaker 1: but they just totally gave up on Flacco. And they

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Speaker 1: get the forde Denver's ford, not Houston's ford, which is

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Speaker 1: a lot higher. I think that's a really good deal

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. But he didn't have real good receivers,

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Speaker 1: his offensive line was good but not great, and have

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Speaker 1: many good running backs. If they had in the last

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Speaker 1: few years. Yeah, Collins, I mean not as many as

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Speaker 1: I just don't think they're talent. It seemed like it

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Speaker 1: was they always had a great defense in a mediocre offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've They've gotten by with some tremendous defenses. And you're

547
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Speaker 1: right when they won the Super Bowl the first time,

548
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Speaker 1: it was on offense, but they got the job done.

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Speaker 1: There's gonna Plague Portals, Ryan Tannehill, Teddy Bridgewater. There's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lot of quarterbacks out there. Two of them.

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Speaker 1: Tannehill and Portals have started a lot and at times

552
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Speaker 1: had had some games. But and in Bridgewater, to me,

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Speaker 1: based on what he's flashed, in the fact that he's healthy,

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Speaker 1: I would be more likely to invest him instead of

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Speaker 1: an also ran. All right, quick hits here, Pat Mahomes.

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Speaker 1: Is it fair that doesn't get to play basketball? Yes,

557
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Speaker 1: of course I would put for a great quarterback or

558
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,920
Speaker 1: all kind of players. I would have a long list

559
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Speaker 1: of things they could not do other than work out,

560
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Speaker 1: and that's one of them. The Raiders happy with Derek Carr.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders may be John Gruden, you never know. He

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Speaker 1: thinks he's a quarterback guru. The success he had at

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Speaker 1: Oakland and Tampa with older retread quarterbacks Rich Ginn and

564
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Speaker 1: Brad Johnson who played really well for him. But if

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Speaker 1: he decided he wanted to put Car out there. Just

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Speaker 1: two years ago, Carr was good. He got that big contract.

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Speaker 1: Everybody loved him. Look at the playoff game, I mean

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Speaker 1: the game in Mexico City against the Texans. If I'm

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr, I want one out of there. I want

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Speaker 1: to go somewhere and start over with a coach that

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Speaker 1: appreciates me. And it wouldn't surprise me at all if

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Speaker 1: I don't have him taking a quarterback on any mock draft,

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Speaker 1: because I don't think he needs them, but a lot

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Speaker 1: of coaches want their guy all right. In Nashville, what's

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Speaker 1: the fan perception of Mariota and what is the team

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Speaker 1: thinking about Mariota. People are frustrated with Mariota because he

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Speaker 1: said he gets hurt a lot and he's but in

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Speaker 1: fairness to him, yes he gets hurt, but he's had it.

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Speaker 1: This is this is his third offensive coordinator in four years,

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Speaker 1: or his fourth and five years. Just no consistency whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: They believe if he could stay healthy and last year

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Speaker 1: he lost Delaney Walker early in the season, his top target.

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Speaker 1: It looks like they're going to add another receiver to

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Speaker 1: go with Corey Davis or maybe a tight end. They

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Speaker 1: like him. I don't see them giving him a big contract.

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Speaker 1: They'll make him play this year and then see do

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Speaker 1: you franchise him? Do you sign him to a long

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Speaker 1: term deal after this contract? If Minnesota could do it

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Speaker 1: all again, would they sign Cousins. They didn't even get

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. He's four and twenty five against teams

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Speaker 1: with winning records. I don't think they give maybe eight

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Speaker 1: million guarantee. But what about Kubiak and his desire or

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Speaker 1: lack thereof to work with Cousins. Gary's back there. He

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Speaker 1: got his band back together with Brian, Perryanni and Ricco

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Speaker 1: and that's one reason. That's why he didn't get the

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Speaker 1: Denver job. He wanted to bring them back and now

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Speaker 1: always said we fired him once, we're not gonna do

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Speaker 1: it again. So he's got everybody there. I think that

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Speaker 1: Cousins will do very well under Kubiak. They'll get in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, maybe win a game, then they'll all be happy.

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Speaker 1: Then they'll all be happy. That'll be interesting. What about

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford in Detroit two years ago when the Tugsan's

603
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Speaker 1: beat him, he had like nine comebacks in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Over time, he threw for five thousand yards. Last year

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Speaker 1: he had Jim Bob Cooter his same offensive coordinator, but

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Speaker 1: Matt Patricia came in there and he did not play

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Speaker 1: well whatsoever. I don't see them drafted a quarterback Stafford.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ever had an injury like Philip

609
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Speaker 1: Rivers had that one on his knee and that was

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Speaker 1: in the postseason. He's been remarkably durable. So maybe Matt

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Speaker 1: Patricia is just not the coach for him with whatever

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Speaker 1: it is he's looking for. But now you put in

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford out there on the market, teams would be

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Speaker 1: all over that guy. Do you think a backup quarterback

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Speaker 1: of say, somebody with the style of Lamar Jackson should

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Speaker 1: be somebody of the style of Lamar Jackson or somebody else,

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Speaker 1: Because I look at Carolina with Cam Newton, who does

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Speaker 1: you know sing rely on running as a little too strong,

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Speaker 1: but he makes a lot of plays with his legs.

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Speaker 1: But they had Derek Anderson for a long time and

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Speaker 1: he really did a good job for them. I asked

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Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien one time when he had watching his rookie

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Speaker 1: Tom Savage and we all thought Savage would be the starter.

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Speaker 1: He said, I said, you have to change what you're doing.

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Speaker 1: Did No, We have all of that, you know, we're

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Speaker 1: prepared for everything, and so you just depending on the quarterback,

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00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: is that you reduce it down to that quarterback. And

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Speaker 1: so I don't think that's as big a deal. People

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Speaker 1: seem to think, like, why is Brandon Wheaton here when

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Speaker 1: he's enough? Style is not like Sean Watson. I remember

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Speaker 1: when Brandon played, he could he could huffet and puff

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Speaker 1: it pretty good. Yeah, and he just hadn't had two

633
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: since twenty fifteen. So I think that is way overrated,

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Speaker 1: depending on the coaching staff and the way they teach it.

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Speaker 1: So here with weedon, look, we did look pretty good

636
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Speaker 1: in the preseason last year. I mean, you could do

637
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 1: worse for a guy coming in if if and knock

638
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 1: wood and knock everything. Watson should not be able to

639
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: go for you for any kind of period of time.

640
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: But what do you think happens here at quarterback? I mean,

641
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: Joe Webb was the third stringer. I love having Joe

642
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,479
Speaker 1: Webb on the team. I don't know if that lasts,

643
00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: if that goes another years up. I believe that if

644
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien sees somebody out there that he believes can

645
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: come in here and provide more than weedon, than they'll

646
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: go get him. Money is not an issue, and they're

647
00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: not going to pay a fortune for a backup quarterback

648
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: like Keenum. But if Bill thinks he can make it work,

649
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,600
Speaker 1: then Brian Gaine will pursue the guy, no matter who

650
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: it is. I'm partial, of course, to RG three, who

651
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,239
Speaker 1: wanted to come in here in twenty seventeen. I did

652
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,160
Speaker 1: a column with him and he said he loved come

653
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: in and help Watson. Then he went and helped Lamar Jackson,

654
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: and they want him back. He's in pretty good shape.

655
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: With Flacco out and Griffin's contracts up, he might get

656
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 1: more than a one year deal, all right, John. I

657
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: saw a list of the best sports movies of all

658
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: time recently, and they had The Color of Money in

659
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 1: the top twenty, which I really objected to because to me,

660
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 1: pool is not a sport. It does not qualify your thoughts.

661
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: Um The Rookie, The Longest Yard, Remake, Invincible, Secretary, Game Plan.

662
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 1: Those are the top five. Those are your top five.

663
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: Pretty good top five, though you could do worth. My

664
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,800
Speaker 1: all time favorite sports movie from nineteen seventy one ABC Movies,

665
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: The Week Brian Song really the original Brian Song. So

666
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: when was the last time you saw it? Though? I

667
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,080
Speaker 1: haven't seen it in a long time because they don't

668
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: run it on TV, but I used They used to

669
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: run it a lot. The remake was a desecration. Yeah,

670
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, I love the natural. I thought Field of

671
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:59,920
Speaker 1: Dreams was not lights was great, it was good. Well

672
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: John Harris will disagree because they changed history in that.

673
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: Well they do that on every minute, and they do

674
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: it with a lot of movies. And I thought The

675
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 1: Rookie was great. Yeah, the Rookies on TV about every

676
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 1: other way. Yeah, I love I love the Rookie and

677
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,240
Speaker 1: True Story terrific. That movie was supposed to be PG

678
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:21,240
Speaker 1: And I had two lines and in the press box

679
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: and both of them had cuss words, not bad ones.

680
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 1: Yea one was so b and I think the other

681
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,880
Speaker 1: one was hell, Who the hell is this? So they

682
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: cut it even though we all knew who he all

683
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: the media knew who he was, but I had to

684
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 1: go who the hell is? And then I can't believe

685
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: they struck that. Sob out and then John Lee Hancock,

686
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: the director, called me and said they've changed it to

687
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: G because it's such a good family movie and that's

688
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: who they're looking for, fathers and sons. Because he said

689
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 1: this in a baseball movie. This is about a relationship

690
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: with the dad and his son and the role baseball

691
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:58,239
Speaker 1: plays in it. I didn't like the whole storyline with

692
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: his father. They went so they so yeah, yeah, I like,

693
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: so they go to G and my lines were gone, Oh, John,

694
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry about that. Told him, I said, you

695
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 1: wouldn't make more money now because it's on TV like

696
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: every two hours. Cook County would have been thirty seconds

697
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 1: if they had to cut it to G. Here's a tree. Okay,

698
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: that's it. Good night, folks, good night everybody. You're right, John,

699
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 1: What are you got going on? In the Chronicle. Aaron

700
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,280
Speaker 1: Wilson and I have our mock drafts on Texans Sports Nation.

701
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,000
Speaker 1: We do a podcast every Thursday in which we talk

702
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 1: about our picks for the Texans and why we made

703
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: her three choices. I have a column Sunday about the

704
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 1: Texans coaching staff and what it'll mean to next season.

705
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 1: I have a thing that's online with five storylines for

706
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,800
Speaker 1: the Texans going into free agency, and then I'll have

707
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: one next week five storylines about the draft. So we're

708
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: staying busy because you can't go wrong writing and talking

709
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: about the Houston Texas. Thank you, General, Thank you very much. Mark.

710
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure to have the General here on

711
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: the Hunday Texans Radio studio and pulling up a chair.

712
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: I'm so pleased because John Harris is here and we

713
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: haven't talked for ages since last night May Yeah, since

714
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: last night. Yeah, So it feels like a long time.

715
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: I don't know why it is, it just feels like

716
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: a long time. Well, it does. And I used to

717
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: think about this because you and I have both we've

718
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 1: had co hosts over the years. Yeah, and you're with

719
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,840
Speaker 1: that person every you know, every single day, and you know,

720
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 1: I do a lot of Texans Radio together, but we

721
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: don't always we do a lot of Part Yeah, we

722
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: do a lot of Part two. So it's so it's

723
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: a little different. So getting back together is you know,

724
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: it's like, whoa, it's been a little while because it's

725
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: not every single day like during the season. I mean,

726
00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: there was a one for a few years we didn't

727
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: get together. We'd do the Monday Show Texas Monday, but

728
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 1: then we wouldn't do anything through the week until we

729
00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: got to the game day. Yeah, we changed that. We

730
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: changed a little Yeah, we did change. We adjusted that

731
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: a little bit. I was just talking to the general.

732
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: I just threw that in there about a list of

733
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 1: best sports movies of all time, and the Color of

734
00:36:59,320 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Money was in the time twenty and it's a it's

735
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: a movie about pool, So to me, that doesn't qualify

736
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 1: because it's not a sport documentaries in there. Yeah, I

737
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Hoop Dreams was number one on this particular list, and

738
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 1: I still want my kid to see it because he

739
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: thinks he's going to the NBA. I don't think he

740
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 1: does actually believe that anymore, because he's sort of, you know,

741
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: developed this awareness as he turns thirteen. I've talked too

742
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: much about him tonight. I think it was interesting with

743
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:25,800
Speaker 1: Hoop Dreams because I was a year behind. No, I

744
00:37:25,840 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 1: was a year ahead of those guys. Yeah, and I'm

745
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 1: never forget when I first saw it my a friend

746
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: of mine. I just graduated college and I was staying

747
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:35,200
Speaker 1: at a friend of mine's place in Massachusetts be where

748
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: I came back here for the summer after my senior year,

749
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,439
Speaker 1: before I started work at EPISCOL in Jacksonville. And so

750
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: my friend's brother had been working at Northeastern. Oh yeah,

751
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: in the they had like a he had like a

752
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 1: sports internship, and so they'd been working in the guy

753
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 1: there had given him a videotape and said, hey, watch this.

754
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: We're thinking about putting this out there for the masses, etc.

755
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: And we're like, well, what is it? These Well, they

756
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: followed these two kids from Chicago. In fact, there there

757
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: were stuff on that videotape on that that was not

758
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 1: the final edited version. Yeah, so there was some stuff

759
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 1: on there that was not in the actual movie documentary,

760
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: the one that went. It's not a spoiler alert to

761
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: say that neither kid makes it to the NBA twenty something.

762
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: You know. How many ever, years after this, it's still

763
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: one of the greatest movies I've ever seen. It's fantastic.

764
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: It didn't even get nominated for Best Documentary, which is

765
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: I think you would would think it would not think

766
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: it would people would notice more people would be able

767
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: to see it because of digital copies or whatever. Absolutely,

768
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: and I think it was so far ahead of its time.

769
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: It's football better off, not only because of other factors,

770
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 1: but because you don't have that whole AA you think.

771
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: I don't want to completely poo poo AAU because I

772
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: think it's very good for a lot of kids, but

773
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 1: I think it also with all these different options to

774
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: play the sport, which is nice for basketball, but I

775
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: think somehow it gets infected in some ways because of

776
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 1: multiple options. And an old coach friend of mine used

777
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 1: to say, lou thing is not as painful when you

778
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 1: have Oh, we got this tournament, in that tournament in

779
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,359
Speaker 1: this weekend. We're gonna play tomorrow anyway, So what does

780
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: it matter. It's not as painful to some of these kids,

781
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: not all, but some. Yeah. I tend to agree with

782
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: that the And again, I don't want it to be

783
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: an AU bashion contest because I do think there's some

784
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,280
Speaker 1: really good there's some good that comes out of AAU.

785
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: But I think one of the aspects that makes basketball

786
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: and football different is you've got the strongest filter in

787
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: not being the college the college aspect of things. A

788
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: lot of a lot of kids playing AU are like, Hey,

789
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: I'm going one year and I'm going to league Yeah,

790
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: that's what I'm going That's what I'm going to do.

791
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to college is a pit stop

792
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: where I get to play games on television. You don't

793
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,080
Speaker 1: even really have to go to class in the second

794
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,040
Speaker 1: semester if you don't want to while you're at a tournament,

795
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: because you're leaving after that to get ready for the draft.

796
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 1: And so there's there's that element. And for a long

797
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: time with the high school straight out of high school,

798
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: you were playing au and there were NBA scouts there

799
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: because they were thinking about drafting you at that point.

800
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: Now obviously you've got one and duns and that kind

801
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: of thing, but it's just a different element. But I

802
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: think what you still have in high school football, and

803
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 1: now seven and seven seven on seven is kind of

804
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,080
Speaker 1: moving in that direction a little bit. But the high

805
00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 1: school coaches were we're, you know, pretty powerful and still

806
00:40:15,480 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 1: a pretty powerful as it pertains to the high school

807
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 1: football going to college going to the NFL, you have

808
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 1: to take that three year road trip to college before

809
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: you're going off to the NFL, and that ends up

810
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 1: weeding out a lot of these kids, or at least

811
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: the light goes on, like wait a second, I was

812
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: thinking I was going to league. I'm not going to league.

813
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,319
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. So it's just a

814
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: different vibe I think between the two sports because you

815
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: do have to stay in college football at least three years.

816
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: You said it, I mean high school coaches have more

817
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 1: power and football than they do in vast absolutely period. Absolutely,

818
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: AU is so powerful, so strong, and they have so

819
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: many different options to play. All right, you did the

820
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: series film Room Withdrew. I do it's your favorite one

821
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 1: that you've done so far? And they're not all out, No,

822
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: they're not all out. We've made gonna be out. We've

823
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: done a bunch of him. I think my I think

824
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: my favorite one is still hop Spins because there's a

825
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: lot going on in that play outside of DeAndre catching

826
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 1: and running and spinning and spinning, there's a lot that

827
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 1: goes on. I mean, we could get him open, yeah,

828
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 1: just to get him open. And you can see how

829
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: the Cowboys made kind of a fatal mistake in that

830
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 1: play in that they decided they were playing they're playing

831
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,919
Speaker 1: cover one, which essentially is man coverage or the free

832
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 1: safety or the top but the free safety gets stuck

833
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: on Will Fuller because Will is beating his guy across

834
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: the fa in an hour of Fuller, and then Hopkins

835
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: comes across and of course he makes that play. But

836
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: she had great blocks with Jordan Thomas and Alfred blue

837
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: On Randy Gregory, you had the linebackers who were looking

838
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: at Deshaun Watson. You just had a lot going on

839
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: on that play outside of what DeAndre did with it,

840
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: which to me was pretty cool. But we did one

841
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 1: film room where we just put on a play. We

842
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: just watched it. There really was no drawing. We just

843
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: were circling. Fan was about it. I was circling hands,

844
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: I was circling teams on the and you know what

845
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: play it is. It's the third eleven throw from Deshaw

846
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: Watson to jord Nakens. Yeah, and it's it turns into

847
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,879
Speaker 1: kind of a hidden moments because you can see the

848
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Speaker 1: fans in the stands store their hands up and start cheering,

849
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,919
Speaker 1: and then he breaks out and you see your hands

850
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: kind of go down. You see eagles on the sideline

851
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: watching them, the Jumbo on the video board going and

852
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 1: then they do the same thing. Like Brandon Brooks is

853
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,359
Speaker 1: on the sidelines and you can see him and then

854
00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: Corey Graham who's the safety and at play just throws

855
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 1: his hands up like I can't believe this, and so

856
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 1: maybe he really just put the play on. There's really

857
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: no excess and nose to it there because there wasn't

858
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 1: any excess nose to it. It was DeShawn just getting

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00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: out of that message. Feel it was a painful loss

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00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: at the time. There's no doubt they all are. I

861
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 1: didn't feel the level of pain. Maybe I should have

862
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: with that one. I just felt like, all right, that

863
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: was a real tough one, but we can get it together,

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00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: I think. And I've said this to people, I think

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00:42:54,320 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: Philip Bates twice, I think you're right another time tomorrow.

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00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: All night. Vander Mock is coming out so shreads because

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00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 1: that's what he does now. Sometimes he actually compliments me

868
00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 1: in a pick or two. We'll see how that goes.

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Speaker 1: Have a great night, everyone, and go Texans.