1 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:31,440 Speaker 1: Take a deep breath in through your nose. 2 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: Hold it. 3 00:00:36,720 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: Now, release slowly again, deep in, helle hold release, repeating 4 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 1: internally to yourself as you connect to my voice. I 5 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: am deeply, deeply well. I am deeply deep well. I 6 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,959 Speaker 1: am deeply. 7 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 3: Well. 8 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I'm Debbie Brown and this is the Deeply Well Podcast. 9 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: Welcome to Deeply Well, a soft place to land, a 10 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: podcast for the curious and creative who are ready to 11 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: expand in higher consciousness and self care. I'm Debbie Brown. 12 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: This is where we heal, this is where we become. 13 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Today's episode, Oh my god, we are going to go 14 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: off the places. I'm so excited to share my guests 15 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: with you today. Award winning journalist, New York Times best 16 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: selling author and judge on Project Runway, Elaine Welter Roth 17 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 1: is an award winning journalist, TV host, and author of 18 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,239 Speaker 1: the instant New York Times best selling book More Than Enough, 19 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: which won the twenty twenty NAACP Image Award for Outstanding 20 00:02:27,919 --> 00:02:31,920 Speaker 1: Literary Work. At age twenty nine, she was named the 21 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: youngest editor in chief in Conde nas history, where under 22 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: her leadership, team Vogue evolved into a platform that elevates 23 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: marginalized voices and amplifies political discourse. After spending more than 24 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: a decade climbing the ranks of magazine journalism, Elaine can 25 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: now be seen on television weekly doling out fashion industry 26 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: advice as a judge on Bravo's Project Runway. Her masterclass 27 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:00,080 Speaker 1: on Redesigning your Career debuted in twenty twenty one and 28 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: has helped thousands navigate career transitions. Now, her popular new 29 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: advice column, Askalane appears in The Washington Post, exploring how 30 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to navigate pivots in life with more ease and less inks. 31 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 1: In addition to the Washington Post, her writing appears in 32 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,800 Speaker 1: The New York Times, British Vogue, and Time. She is 33 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 1: a new mom living with her husband in LA and 34 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: to say the least has just birthed something so powerful 35 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: for women. Welcome to the show, Elaine. 36 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Debbie. That was beautiful. 37 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 4: I could listen to your voice all day. I could 38 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 4: just listen to you read me the alphabet. 39 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Okay, I'm going to leave you a 40 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: voice and be like, eh, yeah. 41 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 4: Please, yeah, I feel like I'm dropping my I'm like 42 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 4: getting more breathy and getting more vivy just listening to you. 43 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you're so generous. Ele. We have so 44 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,000 Speaker 1: much to talk about. Thank you so much for joining me. 45 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you were doing really powerful things in the 46 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: world before we get into like the big thing that 47 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: I can't wait to sink my teeth into, especially as 48 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: a mama. You know what I've noticed from you and 49 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: your work from Afar is you have been weaving purpose 50 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: for a really, really long time. And I remember very 51 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: distinctly when I first you first kind of came into 52 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: my orbit, when you first took on the position as 53 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: the youngest editor in chief and teen Vogue, and I 54 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: remember in that moment how monumental that was and how 55 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: much that shifted things, I think for so many people, 56 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: and especially through the ways that you shaped a magazine 57 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: that you wanted to expect so many of the things 58 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: that came from your rain, You wanted to expect those 59 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: things to come from that publication. And so it's really 60 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: powerful and really intentional. And from seeing your transition to 61 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 1: then continuing to do just like a bevy of forward 62 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: facing projects in the world, having your book and the 63 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: things that you teach and share in the book, and 64 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:05,000 Speaker 1: now this monumental offering with birth fund. I mean, how 65 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: have you noticed and recognized your purpose and how have 66 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: you've seen it kind of evolved but still be the 67 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: truth of what it is and all the dynamics that 68 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: you've been applying it to. 69 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:19,719 Speaker 2: I love this question. 70 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 4: I love this as a place to start because I 71 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 4: think sometimes, you know, you mentioned about my plum talking 72 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 4: about career pivots and life pivots, and I think people 73 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 4: are like, oh, she's like the pivot queen. It's like, 74 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 4: you can call it that, But really, to me, the 75 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 4: thread is purpose. 76 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: And yeah, purpose. 77 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: Is multi pronged, So it's really not about taking a 78 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: sharp left or a sharp right from the designated destination. 79 00:05:55,360 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 4: It's about where is purpose guiding me next? Where can 80 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 4: I be most of service? Where can I grow even more? 81 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 4: Where can I expand? And so I think when I 82 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 4: look back through my career and even at any point 83 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 4: in my career looking forward, I've always been guided by 84 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 4: purpose and the purpose, the thread has been there. Whether 85 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 4: people recognize that or not, you know, that's not for 86 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 4: me to teut, but for you to recognize that, for 87 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: you to say that, for you to lead with that 88 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: makes me feel seen and understood in a way because 89 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:43,480 Speaker 4: all of these disparate things that maybe make me the 90 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 4: sort of like the framing might be multi hyphen it, 91 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 4: and that's fine, but really it's I hope that when 92 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:04,159 Speaker 4: people experience my work that they experience the same that 93 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 4: thread of purpose and soul work and heart work and 94 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 4: in elevating of consciousness in different mediums. 95 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 2: Like that's really what it's about. 96 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 4: And as I've grown, and as my perspective has shifted, 97 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 4: and as my purview has expanded, as life experience has 98 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 4: enlightened me and taught me new lessons, I feel compelled 99 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: and convicted to share that through my work in whatever medium. 100 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 4: And I think the beauty of being a storyteller and 101 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: a creator and just a person in this world in 102 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 4: this era is that there are no limits. Yeah right 103 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 4: now how you can apply yourself and those lessons and 104 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: those skill sets that you pick up along the way. 105 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 2: And I think we're in. 106 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: Such a beautiful age where that old concept of an 107 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 4: American dream has fallen away. The idea that you can 108 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 4: only be one thing, that you can only aspire to 109 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: one career path is now outdated, and we now know 110 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 4: that we get to design and redesign ourselves and our 111 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 4: path as we go, right, and the goal is to allow, 112 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 4: as you said so beautifully, purpose, to beat the thread 113 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 4: that weaves together that beautiful tapestry of experiences and stories 114 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 4: and work that we all get to leave behind. 115 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I love that. I love this so much. 116 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:33,839 Speaker 1: You hit the nail on the head in a few 117 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: different ways. I realized recently. I was like looking back 118 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: through these like my storage and finding all this stuff 119 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 1: that I've done and worked on over the years. And 120 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: I realized that I've been giving talks on purpose for 121 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: exactly fifteen years, and there was always this thread, and 122 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: I talked about it while in different careers. But I 123 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 1: believe the equation of purpose. The equation I found is 124 00:08:58,960 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: it's a mixture of the wisdom gleaned from your lived experience, 125 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: the skills you've amassed so far, you're innate, gifts and service. 126 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 1: And it's not purpose if it's not in service to 127 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: something more than you. 128 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:14,320 Speaker 2: You know. 129 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: And I think the last ten years kind of culturally 130 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,959 Speaker 1: we've been in this zeitgeist and it's not all bad. 131 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: And I know everyone listening and here's me talk about 132 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: this all the time, but it's been all about kind 133 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: of performance. The optics of how you look to someone else, right, 134 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: the validation. It's been about job titles. 135 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: Right. 136 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: This has been a very tidally time. You know, everything 137 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: is about kind of you know, like what is the 138 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: fanciest kind of way to say something or what is 139 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: the catchiest name for business you've made. But it's like 140 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: people aren't always peeking behind the hood to say, well, 141 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: what is the business or what is the purpose or 142 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 1: how does it serve or how does it do anything 143 00:09:53,440 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: other than kind of edify the person you know that 144 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: wants to share. And it's so powerful because to your point, 145 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: especially you know, and I don't. I haven't. I haven't 146 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: caught that, so I don't think that that is seen 147 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,280 Speaker 1: about you. But from the outside looking in, I know 148 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: I've definitely gotten that too, where you know, people be like, 149 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm obsessed with what you've done in 150 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:17,120 Speaker 1: the wellness industry or with this pivot, and I'm like, yeah, 151 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: it's not really a pivot. This has been my life, 152 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 1: my whole life. And you know, it's like it's using 153 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: my voice, but now in a way that I really know, 154 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: it's like channeled from God as opposed to using my 155 00:10:29,520 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: voice and being trained to use my voice in broadcasting 156 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: for many years, you know, But it's that evolution, and 157 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the evolution is the new ways that you serve with 158 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,079 Speaker 1: that equation, with everything that you've amassed. 159 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 4: It's interesting that you're centering this conversation or starting the 160 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 4: conversation around purpose and the difference between purpose and job titles. Yeah, 161 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 4: because I do think that in my magazine editor era, 162 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 4: titles held so much weight and so much of your 163 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: value in the world was defined by the title that 164 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 4: you carried, and so your title chasing, right, not necessarily 165 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 4: purpose chasing. 166 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 2: And I always, while I was focused. 167 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,559 Speaker 4: On sort of, you know, excelling in my career and 168 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 4: getting to that next promotion, I also felt the weight 169 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 4: of the responsibility that came with that title. As someone 170 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 4: who looked different than most people who held those titles, 171 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 4: I saw it as an opportunity to bring a different perspective, 172 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 4: to tell a different story, to open the door to 173 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,559 Speaker 4: a new kind of person, so that we could redefine 174 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 4: the title rather than the title defining us. And ultimately, 175 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 4: when I decided to graduate from the title of magazine editor, 176 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 4: which had come to define me, you know, that moment 177 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:53,360 Speaker 4: of transitioning or that moment of transitioning into the Teen 178 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 4: Vogue editor in Chief title that kind of went viral, 179 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 4: which is something that you don't prepare for, you don't anticipate, 180 00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 4: you don't curate. That's a moment God made happen, right, 181 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 4: And I look back in hindsight and I say, thank God, 182 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 4: Thank you God, not for the publicity or the notoriety, 183 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 4: but for that divine setup for everything that you were 184 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 4: going to use me to do. Thank you for that platform. 185 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 4: And what was happening behind the scenes was not as 186 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 4: glamorous as what it looked like on the outside, and 187 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: so that timeframe was actually really challenging for me. 188 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 2: There was a lot of that. 189 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: I felt very disintegrated, Like you know, there was a 190 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,959 Speaker 4: perception and then there was a lived reality, and they 191 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 4: were different. But I felt the weight of carrying this 192 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: crown that I was handed and now I have to 193 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 4: make it look good and everybody's excited for me. 194 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 2: Let me embrace that. 195 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 4: But also I was navigating a lot internally professionally throughout 196 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 4: that experience, and so ultimately I felt like I was 197 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:04,280 Speaker 4: able to trans that title into purpose work. I was 198 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 4: able to take what that title meant and transform it 199 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: into something different, and then something that suited me and 200 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:19,199 Speaker 4: my purpose work better, or that just felt more aligned. 201 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 4: I was able to try to create some alignment within 202 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,160 Speaker 4: a world I didn't always feel I fit into, with 203 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 4: a world whose values I didn't always subscribe to. I 204 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:33,599 Speaker 4: was able to take what came with that title and 205 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 4: the publicity that came with it, and the respect and 206 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: the power and. 207 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 2: Sort of. 208 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:49,199 Speaker 4: Transfer it into spaces where I felt we needed more spotlight, 209 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,720 Speaker 4: and the voices that deserved a platform, we were able 210 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 4: to lift them up. 211 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: But at the point in which I. 212 00:13:56,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 4: Felt that I had graduated, I was ready to graduate 213 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: that title and move on, and I saw all the 214 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: things that God had for me, even though other people 215 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: didn't see it. 216 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 2: People saw this job as like. 217 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 4: The pinnacle, like the mountaintop, like why would you ever, 218 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 4: you know, abandon that title, Like that title is your 219 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,280 Speaker 4: value in this world. 220 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: And while I saw that and. 221 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 4: Felt that that's what people believed about me, I believed 222 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: something different about me, and I knew that God had 223 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 4: something more for me. And so I feel so blessed 224 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: now to look back at that time and think, think, 225 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 4: and again say thank you God for helping to liberate 226 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:49,000 Speaker 4: me from that title and the ways in which it 227 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: could have kept me hostage to spaces that were actually 228 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 4: too small for what he had me to do in 229 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: the world. Right, But that you go through this like 230 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 4: part of the evolution also looks like the metamorphosis, right 231 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 4: of like a butterfly, you go through this like wormy 232 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 4: phase where it's like you just don't it doesn't look good. 233 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: It doesn't look to the world right, like it doesn't 234 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 4: look fully formed. It's not colorful yet, it's not you know, 235 00:15:19,520 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 4: like the form isn't there right, and you just feel 236 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 4: mushy and exposed, and like, you know, you know what 237 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 4: you're metamorphosis, or you hope you have a vision of 238 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 4: what it's going to lead to. 239 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 2: But I think there was this awkward phase of. 240 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: Taking off that cloak of that title and going through 241 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 4: that metamorphosis now publicly in a way, with the pressure 242 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 4: of having something to prove to the world and feeling 243 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 4: like I had to I had to come with what 244 00:15:51,520 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 4: was next I prove? And so now I feel so liberated. 245 00:15:57,160 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 4: I feel so free from all of that, and I 246 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 4: feel the thing that I have I have always believed 247 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 4: about me and everybody else. I now feel like I 248 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 4: can live in that reality, which is it's not about 249 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 4: what you do, it's about what you stand for. Yes, right, yes, 250 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 4: And that's what I've always cared about, but that's not 251 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 4: always with the world that I've occupied has valued or 252 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 4: that's not how they have seen things. And so you 253 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: sort of have to play the role to gain the 254 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 4: respect in that world, and then you have to figure 255 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 4: out how to transcend that world and make and make 256 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 4: the kind of impact you want to make and stand 257 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 4: for something. So for me, I hope and you know, 258 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 4: as people listen to this, because I do think that 259 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 4: sometimes conversations about purpose seem a bit, a bit ambiguous, 260 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: a bit vague, a bit woo woo, a bit like yes, 261 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 4: but what does that mean? And like what does that 262 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 4: look like? What does it feel like to have one? 263 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 4: How do you know if you have a purpose? How 264 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: do you know if you've outgrown the purpose? Like what 265 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,000 Speaker 4: if you're trying to formulate your purpose? 266 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: You know? 267 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 4: And so I think like sometimes using different language is 268 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 4: helpful because sometimes purpose just feels so big, that. 269 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 2: Question of like what's your purpose? 270 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 4: It's like yeah, oh, it's like a big oprah question. 271 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 4: And so you know, sometimes we're to intimidate it to 272 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 4: even like engage with it. And I think a different 273 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 4: way of framing it is what. 274 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: Do you stand for? Yes? 275 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,919 Speaker 4: And when I think about values, which is another kind 276 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,919 Speaker 4: of like ooh, values, it's like I don't know what 277 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 4: are my values? When I think about that, Like the 278 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 4: question that I pose to myself and to anyone I'm 279 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 4: in conversation with is what do you care about. 280 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: More than money? 281 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: Yeah? 282 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: Because well, we all are motivated by money to an extent. 283 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: We all deserve to live well, to be safe, to 284 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: absolutely access to the things we. 285 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 4: Need, absolutely, and there's no shame in that. Especially as 286 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 4: Black women. We have a responsibility to try to break 287 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 4: some generational curses and some chains and to try to 288 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 4: build up some generational wealth for the families that we 289 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 4: are building cultivating and the lineage that comes after us. 290 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 4: But I also believe that we are motivated by more 291 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 4: than money, and we're not often asked about that motivation 292 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 4: to tap into it. And so that's been helpful for 293 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 4: me in guiding my career because now I'm in a 294 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 4: stage like you where opportunities come to us or we 295 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: have to create opportunities, and sometimes we have to put 296 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 4: the price tag on that opportunity, or we have to 297 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 4: say yes or no based on a price tag and 298 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 4: a set of criteria. And so I think it's important 299 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 4: to define for yourself what is your value system, what 300 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 4: do you stand for, and what do I care about 301 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,239 Speaker 4: more than money, so that when opportunities present themselves, and 302 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 4: when they come with money or not, you have a 303 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 4: built in filter for how to make decisions along the 304 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 4: way that are true to the purpose that was placed 305 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 4: in you, and that will be part of the work 306 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:12,199 Speaker 4: that you will put into the world. 307 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: Deeply. Well, I hope everyone is really connecting to this 308 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: in the core of themselves, really foundationally, because I resonate 309 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: so deeply with so much of what you said, and 310 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: so much of it was part. So many of the 311 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: things that you have said and recognized about kind of 312 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: the steps and some of the pain points about kind 313 00:19:35,080 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: of navigating purpose are so so similar to experiences I've 314 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 1: had where people will say, oh, you're crazy for leaving 315 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: that you know, like what are you doing? And it's 316 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: like sometimes you have a vision that the world doesn't 317 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: catch up to for quite a while, or you know, 318 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: I remember I was sharing I was sharing with someone recently. 319 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 1: I forget what they said, like they were just like 320 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 1: something along the lines, because now wellness is on trend right, 321 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: like it's very, very in since twenty twenty, and I'm 322 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: so grateful for that because it's not a fight to 323 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: kind of get people to care in the same ways that. 324 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 2: It used to be, or to get it or to 325 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: get it. 326 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 1: And want it and I to do value in it, 327 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,400 Speaker 1: you know. But I remember someone said to me, like, oh, yeah, 328 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 1: I see you're in you know, you've gotten in the 329 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: mental health space, and I said, you know, it's interesting 330 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: because back when I was a number one rated radio personality, 331 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: I actually had in twenty twelve and twenty fourteen, had 332 00:20:31,359 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: started mental health shows before that term began, and I 333 00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: had hired myself a therapist to join me on the 334 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 1: show this is ten twelve years ago, to talk to 335 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: the community every episode about what the psychological you know, 336 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: what's going on in our psyches as we process information. 337 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,720 Speaker 1: So I'm like, this has always been the truth of 338 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:53,760 Speaker 1: who I am and the truth of the way that 339 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: I've used my gifts and skills, but it hasn't always 340 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: been valuable to other people. So at the time that 341 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 1: I was doing that, the feedback that I'd get from 342 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: the higher ups where I worked was, well, why can't 343 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: you like, why are you asking artists about suicide? Why 344 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,399 Speaker 1: are you asking them if they're depressed, Ask them about 345 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: who they have beef with, ask them about who they're 346 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 1: sleeping with. And so sometimes it takes you know much 347 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: to your point. You have to trust what you value. 348 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: You have to trust your integrity, You have to trust 349 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: your dignity and your process, and know that if it 350 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: feels really deep to you, no one else has to 351 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 1: get it. There might be the divine time that those 352 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: kind of paths collide and it all makes perfect sense. 353 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: But even if it doesn't, you know why you're here 354 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: and you need to get to work. You know, you 355 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 1: need to serve. It's really powerful. 356 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,280 Speaker 2: Totally. 357 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: I relate to what you're saying, and I think it's 358 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: interesting I'm remembering now because I see you as like 359 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 4: this version of Debbie Brown, but I know of this 360 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 4: radio background and like we kind of both come from 361 00:21:55,760 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 4: a journalist background, and it's so amazing to see how 362 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 4: you have flipped that, or you know, transition to that 363 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 4: into something that feels more aligned with absolutely your. 364 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 2: Soul work, like your purpose work. 365 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:12,639 Speaker 4: And I hope it's inspiring to journalists who are listening, 366 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 4: because I do think this is a hard time to 367 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,640 Speaker 4: be a journalist, and I've talked to so many journalists 368 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 4: who feel like it's a bit of a dead end 369 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 4: job and those jobs are getting cut and those jobs 370 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: are not well paid and so but I see journalism 371 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: and storytelling as so like such relevant skill. 372 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: Sets, Oh my god, that are in such. 373 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 4: Transferable skill sets for so many different career paths, and 374 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 4: you can flip that into whatever you want to flip 375 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 4: it into. So I just want to call that out 376 00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 4: because you are an example. I think we're both examples 377 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 4: of like like in my in my situation, I say 378 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 4: like editor afterlife, but in your case, it's like, you know, 379 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 4: same thing. It's like, yeah, where do radio hosts take it? Well? 380 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: You know what's interesting too about journalism specif I found 381 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: that anybody that is a good journalist has heightened intuition. 382 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 2: Oh, I've never heard anybody say that, but absolutely, one hundred. 383 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: You have these knowings, you have this way to go 384 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: about finding things and information. You're tracking the evolution and 385 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: all the pieces of storyline being formed. Like it's a 386 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: very sensory highly intuitive kind of experience. Yes, so much. 387 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: To your point, that skill set is useful in so 388 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:32,880 Speaker 1: many profound ways. You typically can be an excellent kind 389 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,480 Speaker 1: of wisdom keeper or teacher in any capacity. You know, 390 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: put some respect yet question. 391 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I love that so much. You have just put 392 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 4: words to why. The one title that has always fit 393 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: for me is journalist. 394 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 2: Yeah. 395 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 4: Regardless of what I'm doing in journalism, whether it's traditional 396 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 4: or not, whether I working for a company you know 397 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 4: or not, you are a journalist. It's like you either 398 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 4: are or you're not. You are born this way. You 399 00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 4: are curious. You want to ask the deep real questions. 400 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 4: You want to interrogate the truth of the matter, whatever 401 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 4: it is, it's the truth. 402 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: You're a seeker of truth. 403 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 2: You are a seeker of truth. 404 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 4: And that is an identity I relate to. I proudly 405 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 4: wear it like that's a job title that doesn't feel 406 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: constraining or fraudulent to me. Like I've had titles where 407 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, yeah, yeah, I guess that's my title. 408 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 2: Huh, you know that's my lower thirds. That's what they say. 409 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 2: I guess so, but me, Yeah, but this is like no, 410 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 2: like this is this is like this is how I was. 411 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 4: Born, Like my mom would call me Barbara Wah wah 412 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: when I was a little girl, because of all the 413 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,880 Speaker 4: questions I would ask were like little Oprah, I would 414 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 4: this is who I have always been before anybody gave 415 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:57,679 Speaker 4: me a title, I was a journalist, and after the 416 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 4: title that I graduated, I will always be a journalist. 417 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 4: And I think that now that you've framed it that 418 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 4: way for me, like it's actually something that's like it's 419 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 4: part of your It's part of deeply who you are. 420 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:12,199 Speaker 1: And Nate gifts, Yeah, Nate gifts skills amassed, you know. 421 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 1: And it's like even even speaking to Oprah because I 422 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: think she's one of the most God given, incredible, incredible 423 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 1: archetypes of exactly everything that we're saying right now, it's 424 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: like you start in journalism, right, yes, but ultimately she 425 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: was designed by God to change the world and to 426 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: bring a complete paradigm shift into the way that journalism 427 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,760 Speaker 1: is even done and into all the ways that you 428 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: can be a journalist and what those kind of abilities 429 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: can inspire in other people. You know, her storytelling of herself, 430 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: of the world, of her guests, like it enriched people, 431 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 1: It evolved people, It nourished people. 432 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 4: Yes, and she starts conversations that matter in a world 433 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 4: that's focused on the wrong things often the distractions, the 434 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:02,879 Speaker 4: fluff and they, you know, and the clickbait that we 435 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 4: will chase. You know that that media institutions will chase. 436 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 4: She's going the other way. If you watch her career, 437 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,760 Speaker 4: she's always gone her own way and started conversations that 438 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 4: mattered to her that then became to that that then 439 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 4: began to matter in the public zeitecase. And she's still 440 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 4: doing it now. So shout out to Oprah with that. 441 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,120 Speaker 4: I love Oprah, we are your children. We are so 442 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:26,360 Speaker 4: grateful for your life. 443 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,640 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. She will forever be the north Star. 444 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 4: And even when I saw her recently on her special, 445 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 4: was just like, look at Oprah, still doing Oprah. 446 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 2: This is what she's always done. Fine, looking so fine. 447 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 4: But but what I love about her is that she's 448 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 4: always leaning into the nuance. 449 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 2: Yes she is. 450 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,560 Speaker 4: She is inviting us into the gray spaces in a 451 00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 4: world that tells us it's either black or white and 452 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 4: that we are meant to be divided and you're on 453 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 4: this side or that side. She invites us into the 454 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 4: common ground that is that is the great area in between. 455 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 4: And she did it with Ozembic, She's done it with 456 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 4: I mean, over the years, she has expanded our consciousness 457 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 4: around things that might seem really controversial or very polarizing 458 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 4: and helped us find through our own empathy and humanity. 459 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 2: That we can. 460 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 4: She expands our understanding absolutely, you know, and then therefore 461 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 4: our connection to each other. And I'm just in awe 462 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: of HER's that And that's truly when I look at 463 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 4: when I interrogate, like what I'm here to do, it's that. 464 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, yes. Whenever you know, the few times 465 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: that criticisms kind of pop up about her, I'm always like, oh, 466 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: you didn't watch her every day after school? And it 467 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,719 Speaker 1: shows that part because if you really, I mean, I 468 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:53,719 Speaker 1: would run home as a child, run home three pm 469 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: in LA and I'd be. 470 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 4: Like four pm in North California. 471 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: Yes, it was parenting, It was you know it. The 472 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: way that she even was unashamed about the pain points 473 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: of her life, to me is one of the most 474 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 1: striking things that I think changed us cellularly on an 475 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,360 Speaker 1: emotional level. People that watched her, you know, your ability 476 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: to own your story and not be reduced by it. 477 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: She embodied that. 478 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 4: Yes, she was the original influencer in that way, yo, 479 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, because journals are trained 480 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 4: to not talk about themselves, you're not meant to be 481 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 4: a subject. But the way that she generously shared herself 482 00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: with us, her vulnerabilities, you know, the secrets of her 483 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 4: weight loss journey, for example. She has just given us 484 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 4: such an intimate look into who she is and the 485 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 4: soul of this person and the character of this person. 486 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 4: And it's made us grow to trust her, and so 487 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: she can she can now shine that light on any 488 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 4: topic and we will follow her. We will follow her 489 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 4: and wherever she will go, we want to see where 490 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: she wants to flash her light next. 491 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 2: And you know, we trust that she is. 492 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 4: She's a guiding light for us because she has been 493 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 4: vulnerable enough to let us see inside her, her heart 494 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 4: and her and her soul and her story. 495 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: You know, the consistency of her integrity, the consistency of 496 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: her character. You know, in the world, whether she is 497 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: out about behind a camera, in front of a camera, 498 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: it's just like you can't make that up. You know, 499 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,959 Speaker 1: you can't make that up. It's the proof and the 500 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: truth of her life. 501 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: This is like a full This can totally be like 502 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: a full Oprah Club. 503 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Podcast just about loving Oprah me too, because you know what. 504 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 4: Put some respect back on Area's name when people seeing 505 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 4: her be misunderstood, Oh my god publicly has It's like 506 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 4: I take it personally, like like you, I watch her 507 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 4: show every day four o'clock after school. I had a 508 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 4: friend that we would we would call on the commercial 509 00:29:58,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 4: breaks to chat about what we just saw. 510 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: That's we were lost in. And she has built. 511 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 4: Up so much equity that if you come for her, 512 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 4: I will come for you. 513 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? 514 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 4: Like That's how I feel. And in this era, I 515 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: do think she's misunderstood. I do think that this younger 516 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 4: generation doesn't even quite understand what she has always meant 517 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 4: to us and the generations that came before us. So 518 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 4: it's really I love that this randomly came out here 519 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 4: because I feel like she deserves this love and this 520 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 4: ode and like it's up to us to carry out 521 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 4: her legacy and to tell because I will tell you 522 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 4: my mentee, who is twenty like early twenties, she's like 523 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 4: so wait, like who is Oprah? 524 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: Like why do people care about? Like did she have 525 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: like she had like a show or something right, And I. 526 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 4: Was just like, oh, this is sacrilegious, Like what so 527 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 4: we got to keep saying her name and talking about her, 528 00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 4: her legacy and what she means that is so interesting 529 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 4: now whatever. 530 00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: Forever and even because we could, I mean, we could 531 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 1: go right. But it's like, I think one of the 532 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: things that I've consistently heard people say in a way 533 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: that makes no sense to me is like, oh, well, 534 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: she built a school in Africa, but does she care 535 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: about black people here? And I'm like, what has she 536 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: done for black people? She exists, She exists. Everything that 537 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: she has touched has been in service to black people 538 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: and to women and to the expansion of consciousness in 539 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: so many ways. You know what. I think about the 540 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: reach of who she puts her hands on, who she 541 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: gives her glance to, her attention to, and the reach 542 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: they have. And to me, that's always what really shows 543 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: a person's character and who they are as a leader. 544 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: It's who do you empower? Who have you helped, who 545 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: have you elevated? Who have you seen gifts and talent 546 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,719 Speaker 1: in and gone out of your way to help that 547 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: come to fruition. That's the real sign. It's not about you. 548 00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: It's more than you, and it's about everything else that 549 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 1: you create. And I mean I think that just that, 550 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: just that that can show for itself really seamlessly. 551 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 4: And just people people having an opinion about what other 552 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: people should do with their purpose. Yeah, it's irrelevant. You 553 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 4: can go do what you were put here to do. 554 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 4: You have no that is the big I just want 555 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 4: to start there. You know, how dare you have a 556 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 4: critique about what somebody else should do with the massive purpose? 557 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: Like especially somebody her, the massive purpose that she was 558 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 4: placed on this earth with in all the ways that 559 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 4: she has manifested that for the benefit of. 560 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,760 Speaker 1: All and the heart that comes with that much visibility, 561 00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 1: because that's a sacrifice. 562 00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 4: You go build your school for Black American children, please do. 563 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 1: If you're not in the arena, right, if you're not 564 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: putting yourself on the line to serve, to live your purpose, 565 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: to even be still enough to figure out what it 566 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: is or to help another find theirs, what's the criticism? 567 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 2: Yeah? 568 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: Right, Like what can really be said? You have to 569 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: get in the arena. You have to be doing something 570 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,120 Speaker 1: in order, in my belief, to have the right to 571 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 1: criticize what someone else is doing. 572 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 4: I agree with that completely, and I just you know, 573 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 4: you are called to service. You have to understand that 574 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 4: about about about purpose and work in general, right, Like, 575 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 4: of course Oprah could do all of those things, but 576 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: she waits for the call. She was called to build 577 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 4: that school in South Africa. That's a divine calling. How 578 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,719 Speaker 4: dare you criticize what God called her to do and 579 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 4: that in the ways in which she was obedient to 580 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 4: that calling? 581 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: Do you know what I mean? That's how I see it. 582 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: What are you doing? 583 00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 2: Okay? 584 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, moving forward a little bit. 585 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: You have pivoting. 586 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 1: Pivot, time to pivot. Ope, we love you you. So 587 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,920 Speaker 1: we're both mamas and we are. 588 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:10,800 Speaker 2: Both little boys. 589 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: Little boys. Oh God, I love being my son's mother, 590 00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,040 Speaker 1: being a boy mom me too. 591 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 4: Who knew I thought I was such a girl's girl. 592 00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I am a girl's girl, but I love 593 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 4: being a boy mom. 594 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: Right. 595 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: Who knows what's to come? But it you know, part 596 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: of what I'm seeing as we make our way to 597 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,719 Speaker 1: really kind of dive into the birth fund is I'm 598 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,919 Speaker 1: also seeing the depth of the experience of you being 599 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,359 Speaker 1: a mother, and I'm seeing kind of the effect and 600 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: the profound impact your son has had on your life, 601 00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 1: which then of course influences your work. So tell me 602 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: how being a mom and being connected to your beautiful 603 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: son's energy has expanded the way you experience your purpose 604 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,320 Speaker 1: and your service in the greater world. 605 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,400 Speaker 4: It's even surial wing you say your mother or were mothers, 606 00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 4: because I remember most of my life not being a 607 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 4: mother and not knowing when that would happen for me. 608 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,399 Speaker 4: And it certainly was not in my immediate roadmap when 609 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 4: it happened to me. And I wasn't even in the 610 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: place where I could receive that blessing in the in 611 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 4: the in the in the way that now I understand, 612 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,680 Speaker 4: like how how big and how just the magnitude of 613 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,719 Speaker 4: the gift of motherhood. I didn't see it that way 614 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 4: at the time, and I'm just so humbled, Like you know, 615 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 4: I have built this career with such intention, and I've 616 00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 4: navigated my life with just that instinct you're talking about, 617 00:35:54,080 --> 00:36:00,839 Speaker 4: and I've trusted that, and motherhood was just something I 618 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 4: surrendered to. It required a completely different, like operating system. 619 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 4: I adopted a completely different operating system. Everything I've done 620 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,800 Speaker 4: in this world has been the result of striving, setting 621 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 4: an intention, like making it happen. It's almost like this 622 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 4: masculine energy, and becoming a mother was about the exact opposite. 623 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,920 Speaker 4: It was about releasing control, relinquishing control, surrendering to a 624 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 4: higher power, to a divine plan that came in divine 625 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 4: timing that was not my timing. And so even the 626 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 4: process that that metamorphosis, that grief, Yeah, that like, oh, 627 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 4: my identity is shifting and not on my terms and 628 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 4: not in my timing, and that with that came so 629 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,799 Speaker 4: many humbling lessons. And then for me, pregnancy brought many 630 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 4: humbling lessons. I had a physically very challenging pregnancy, and 631 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 4: then mentally and emotionally I was impacted. And then you 632 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 4: compound that with the broken maternal the broken medical system 633 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,800 Speaker 4: and the maternal health system in this country that underserves 634 00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:32,320 Speaker 4: mothers and families and particularly black women at every socioeconomic level. 635 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 2: And let me say that again, because I. 636 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 4: Think that there is a misconception that if you have 637 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,920 Speaker 4: resources and you have you know, education, and you have 638 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,560 Speaker 4: wealth and good networks, like you'll be spared. And that's 639 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 4: not the case. And even for me being a journalist 640 00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:52,720 Speaker 4: and being aware of the stats around the maternal mortality crisis, 641 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 4: I still really didn't. It wasn't an issue that hit 642 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 4: home for me until I became pregnant and was out 643 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 4: here looking for a doctor and that process ultimately, you know, 644 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,879 Speaker 4: the process of being a mother and looking for care 645 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 4: and not finding it in the obvious places and having 646 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 4: to search outside of the traditional path and finding this 647 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:24,720 Speaker 4: like oasis of support and care in an alternative path 648 00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 4: that I had never considered before, which was Midwiffrey. And 649 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 4: you know this, this, this whole kind of world opened 650 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,799 Speaker 4: up to me that my son led me to and 651 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,520 Speaker 4: it wasn't a part of my plan. And if you 652 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,279 Speaker 4: had asked me three years ago what Midwiffrey is, I 653 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,279 Speaker 4: would have been like, what is that? 654 00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 3: You know? 655 00:38:47,840 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 2: I didn't even. I didn't even it wasn't on my radar. 656 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 4: But now and if you would have said to me, 657 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 4: could you know, would you ever see yourself starting a 658 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:02,120 Speaker 4: whole new venture that is focused on expanding access to 659 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,560 Speaker 4: mid with free cared, say absolutely not, like maternal health. 660 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 4: It's like, these are terms that felt like I don't know, 661 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 4: something like politicians focus on you know what I mean 662 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,279 Speaker 4: this is? And I think that's again part of the 663 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: problem is that I think the concept of maternal care 664 00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 4: feels like it's fringe until it's you, until you are 665 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 4: staring into the cracks of this system and you see 666 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 4: how you can fall into it, and you see how 667 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 4: you can become a statistic and you don't know who 668 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,759 Speaker 4: to call for help, and you don't know what your 669 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 4: options are to access better care like this is in 670 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: this country. This is such a crisis that is like 671 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,799 Speaker 4: our biggest open secret that we are not addressing because 672 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:54,480 Speaker 4: we are waiting for someone else to We're waiting for 673 00:39:54,520 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 4: someone else to fix it. We think that it's philanthropists, politicians, lawmakers, hospitals, doctors, 674 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 4: birth workers jobs to fix this. But when you look 675 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 4: at the numbers and when it comes to maternal mortality 676 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:13,120 Speaker 4: in this country, they are soaring and we're not talking 677 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 4: about it enough. And it is not a fringe issue. 678 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 4: It's an issue that impacts every family. We all have mothers, right, 679 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 4: This is if we care about life, if we care 680 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 4: about family, we should care about this issue. And so 681 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,359 Speaker 4: this is a moment for me, going back to your 682 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 4: original question about purpose, This work with Birth Fund is 683 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 4: the culmination of every everything I've ever done, of every 684 00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 4: skill set that I've picked up along the way of 685 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 4: every relationship that I've cultivated, every ounce of equity and 686 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,279 Speaker 4: credibility that I have built in my career was for 687 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:05,959 Speaker 4: this moment. It is not a pivot, It is a culmination. 688 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 4: It is a career culmination moment where I can finally 689 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 4: It's like a light bulb when out I said. 690 00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 2: Oh, that's why, that's why you've been so good to me. God, 691 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 2: That's why. 692 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 4: This was a setup so that when you deposited this 693 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 4: into my spirit, when you called on me, I could 694 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 4: pick up and I could, in this earthly realm make 695 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 4: phone calls to Serena Williams and you know, influential people 696 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 4: in this world that can help elevate this message, that 697 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 4: can help raise resources in real time for families that 698 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:53,479 Speaker 4: could make this conversation relevant, like you equipped me, God 699 00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 4: uniquely to be able to do this, to stand in 700 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,479 Speaker 4: this gap for families, to do it, for the mothers 701 00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:05,799 Speaker 4: who've lost their lives unnecessarily, like senselessly. Eighty percent of 702 00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 4: the maternal mortality. Maternal mortalities in this country are preventable. 703 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:15,480 Speaker 4: Eighty percent. These are not deaths that are that you know, 704 00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 4: childbirth is just you know, it's tough, it's you know, 705 00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 4: it's a life or death thing. It is, but eighty 706 00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 4: percent of these deaths are preventable. And when you when 707 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 4: you look at other high income countries all across the world, 708 00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 4: their outcomes are so much better than ours. And the 709 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 4: thing that they all have in common is midwifery care 710 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 4: is their default birth care model. It's covered by insurance, 711 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:46,320 Speaker 4: it's covered by their government, it's normalized in their culture. 712 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 4: And when you look at America, most people don't even 713 00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:54,319 Speaker 4: know what a midwife is. And that's by design. That's 714 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 4: by design. And none of this I knew. Like so 715 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:00,200 Speaker 4: for anybody who's like, oh, it's going over my head 716 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 4: a little bit, it did go over my head as well. 717 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,319 Speaker 2: We were not taught about this. 718 00:43:04,840 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 4: It's part of it's part of our design, it's part 719 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 4: of our conditioning. When you look at the history of 720 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 4: midwif free midwiffree is midwives, Black midwives in particular, they 721 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 4: birthed our country. They birthed our nation, and obstenetics and 722 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:27,279 Speaker 4: the whole industry of obgyns, which we are taught as 723 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 4: the gold standard of medical care for you know, birth work. Yeah, 724 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:38,360 Speaker 4: that was an industry that was invented around for profit model. 725 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,360 Speaker 4: And when you really interrogate the way that that system 726 00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:49,799 Speaker 4: was built, it's built for profit over patients. And when 727 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,040 Speaker 4: we really start to ask questions about what we were 728 00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,480 Speaker 4: taught about what constitutes a normal, safe, healthy birth experience, 729 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 4: we realize he we don't. We weren't taught very much 730 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,840 Speaker 4: other than give up your authority to a doctor. Yeah, 731 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:14,160 Speaker 4: listen to the doctor, do what they say, and that's it. 732 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,640 Speaker 4: But the beauty of Midwiffery and how it's transformed my 733 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,080 Speaker 4: life and not just the thing that I didn't realize 734 00:44:21,120 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 4: about the gifts that my son would bring me in 735 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 4: the gift of motherhood, is that it extends so much 736 00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 4: beyond just getting that baby out of you. Like the 737 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:38,400 Speaker 4: gift of motherhood, like the way that you bring in 738 00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 4: your child is a rite of passage, and it's deeply 739 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:47,839 Speaker 4: spiritual and it is a sacred. It's a sacred experience. 740 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,280 Speaker 4: And I think that in this country, unfortunately, the medical 741 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:59,560 Speaker 4: system has stripped away what is sacred about childbirth. And 742 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:05,000 Speaker 4: for me, I was someone who was very conditioned to 743 00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 4: trust the medical system, find a doctor, get the epidural, 744 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 4: have the baby, like knock me out. I don't even 745 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,719 Speaker 4: want to be there. For it like I am not 746 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080 Speaker 4: that girl, I am not the wo woo girl. Like 747 00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 4: this is brand new to me. And so what I 748 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:21,319 Speaker 4: can say as someone who has been converted because of 749 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 4: my first person lived experience is that I for me, 750 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 4: birthing became the most empowering experience in my life. That 751 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 4: changed me fundamentally, That expanded my purpose in my work, 752 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:45,439 Speaker 4: expanded my identity in ways I never anticipated, gave me downloads, 753 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,720 Speaker 4: spiritual downloads. I don't even talk about this part really 754 00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,920 Speaker 4: because I don't know if it's ever a safe environment 755 00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 4: or if people will hear it in the way that 756 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 4: it's intended. 757 00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,480 Speaker 2: But I know that this is a safe space for 758 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 2: that here. Yeah, the spiritual. 759 00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:07,560 Speaker 4: Downloads that I got through the sacred container that home 760 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 4: birth and midwives created for me has fundamentally changed my 761 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,920 Speaker 4: walk in this world. So when people say why are 762 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:18,840 Speaker 4: we talking about wherese, I'm like, why, that's. 763 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,480 Speaker 2: Just you have the baby, you move on. 764 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:26,000 Speaker 4: The way that you have that baby can either empower 765 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:31,239 Speaker 4: you or disempower you for the next chapter of your life. 766 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:37,399 Speaker 4: And if we as women understood that having a child 767 00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 4: and the way we choose to have a child can 768 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:48,680 Speaker 4: unlock our power to ourselves, like, wake up to your power, 769 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,800 Speaker 4: or the exact opposite can happen. If we reframe birth 770 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 4: in that way, then we understand that this work is 771 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: of the utmost importance at a time when women are 772 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 4: under siege in this country. Our autonomy, our bodies, our power, 773 00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,560 Speaker 4: our choices. There's a war on women right now. And 774 00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:15,960 Speaker 4: so the way that we can reclaim that for ourselves 775 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:21,440 Speaker 4: is one way, just one way is through more autonomy 776 00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 4: and our birth choice. And I want to give that 777 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:26,280 Speaker 4: to women. That's really what Birth Fund is about. Having 778 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,560 Speaker 4: experienced this, I'm like, this should not be a luxury. 779 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 4: This should be accessible to any birthing person who has 780 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 4: been made to feel unsafe in a surging, soaring maternal 781 00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 4: health crisis. You should have other options. You should know 782 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 4: what your options are, and those options should be accessible 783 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 4: to you. And I want, I want women. I'm not 784 00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,160 Speaker 4: here to push Midwiffree on people. I'm not here to 785 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:57,319 Speaker 4: push home birth on people. But I am here to 786 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,200 Speaker 4: help educate and enlighten folks about your choices. Yeah, right, 787 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: so that you feel like you have some agency. And ultimately, 788 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,360 Speaker 4: if this is a choice that appeals to you, I 789 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:11,200 Speaker 4: want to make sure that there are resources available to 790 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 4: you that make that choice, that light off in life 791 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: saving choice available to you. And so that's what birth 792 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 4: Fund is. We are raising resources from individuals, from corporations, 793 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,520 Speaker 4: people outside of the medical system, outside of legislators who 794 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,279 Speaker 4: are taking too long to make the changes that we need. 795 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 4: And we need those changes too, and we're working on 796 00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,400 Speaker 4: that too. But it's and not or we're not waiting 797 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 4: for systemic change. We're making change right now and we're 798 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 4: opening our pockets. We're leading or leading with what we 799 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,279 Speaker 4: can give first, and then we're creating this funnel where 800 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 4: it's like we're meeting people where they're at. Whatever you 801 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,759 Speaker 4: can give it goes to a family, even if it's 802 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 4: five dollars. No amount is too small. And I will say, 803 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:56,160 Speaker 4: I'm coming to you today. I think I'm more emotional 804 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 4: today and I'm more like, I don't know in your 805 00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 4: world that would be like. 806 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:04,800 Speaker 2: Heart chakras open today, it's open. It's like wide open. 807 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,960 Speaker 4: It is because I just like all the work that 808 00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 4: we've been doing has culminated in literally what we are 809 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 4: doing this week, which is finally meeting the. 810 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 2: Families Oh wow. 811 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:21,400 Speaker 4: That we're funding and we're introducing them to their funders 812 00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 4: and you are seeing this like real human connection, this 813 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 4: human generosity, what we can do with our spirit, with 814 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,839 Speaker 4: our gifts, with our resources to help empower and change 815 00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,200 Speaker 4: people's lives, like in real time, and it actually doesn't 816 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 4: take that much, you know. And so to see people 817 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:45,319 Speaker 4: like John Legend and Chrissy meet this beautiful mother of 818 00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 4: seven who's homeschooling all seven of her children and this 819 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,880 Speaker 4: is the first time that she's going to have access 820 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 4: to a home birth. 821 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,960 Speaker 2: To have birth on her terms, and like it's just 822 00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,880 Speaker 2: it gives me chills to it's so special. 823 00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 4: Today Alexis o'hanian met this mother in d C. And 824 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:08,600 Speaker 4: he's from you know, and we're pairing people with people 825 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:10,080 Speaker 4: from cities that they're connected to. 826 00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:11,840 Speaker 2: So John Legend grew up in Ohio. 827 00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:15,040 Speaker 4: He's talking to a mother of seven in Ohio and 828 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 4: it was just amazing. Alexis o'hanian's talking to this mother 829 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:23,880 Speaker 4: in DC and she's, you know, having her third child 830 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,480 Speaker 4: and she's a birth worker, but this is going to 831 00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,200 Speaker 4: be the first time where she's actually going to get 832 00:50:27,200 --> 00:50:29,600 Speaker 4: to benefit from the work that she does for other people. 833 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,520 Speaker 4: And it's just this is this is heart work. Like 834 00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,160 Speaker 4: this is purpose work, Like this is what if if 835 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 4: I leave this planet tomorrow. I'm like, yes, I have 836 00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,759 Speaker 4: that bio and those titles and those things. You might 837 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,200 Speaker 4: you might remember me for that, but this is what 838 00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:50,560 Speaker 4: I want to be remembered for, because this is what 839 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:56,200 Speaker 4: all that built towards. 840 00:50:56,239 --> 00:51:01,319 Speaker 1: Deeply well, I want to kind of speak to some 841 00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: of the nuanced layers that I think are also behind this, 842 00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: because I really want to underscore how important it is 843 00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: to think about not just this work, but that kind 844 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:17,840 Speaker 1: of portal time that we're speaking to, of a woman 845 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:22,560 Speaker 1: birthing something right, bringing something to the planet. It is 846 00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,120 Speaker 1: a divine experience. There is no way around that. And 847 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 1: it is this truly portal experience that, depending on what 848 00:51:31,880 --> 00:51:35,160 Speaker 1: you have access to, could either as a woman, keep 849 00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 1: you completely stuck and disempowered, or it could be you know, 850 00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:43,640 Speaker 1: the expansion of consciousness, the ubleveling of love, the healing 851 00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:47,360 Speaker 1: of what we call generational curses, you know, the birthing 852 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,839 Speaker 1: on the planet of the bigger work. And you know, 853 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:55,439 Speaker 1: some of the nuance and some context even behind these 854 00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,719 Speaker 1: conversations about women's bodies that I always think of is, 855 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: you know, for instance, to the formulating or the creation 856 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:06,800 Speaker 1: of gynecology and obg yns and speaking to the importance 857 00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:12,799 Speaker 1: of why black women deserve this. Gynecology was created on 858 00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,440 Speaker 1: the backs of Black women through the person who invented 859 00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: the field, experimenting on black women's bodies, experimenting on their vaginas, 860 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:29,200 Speaker 1: on their wombs. You know, it's horrifying, it's horrible. So 861 00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:34,000 Speaker 1: reclaiming this is also reclaiming that for our ancestors, you know, 862 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,440 Speaker 1: and when I think about, you know, a big conversation 863 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,640 Speaker 1: that has been happening, I think for all of our 864 00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:44,440 Speaker 1: lifetimes around reproductive rights and whether you're pro choice or 865 00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 1: pro life or whatever you resonate with, you know, you 866 00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 1: hold inside of you. But a piece that no one 867 00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:57,160 Speaker 1: speaks to is that people are only concerned quote unquote 868 00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 1: concerned when there is a fetus in the What I 869 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,880 Speaker 1: never hear said out loud is please have the baby, 870 00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,960 Speaker 1: and this is how will help you. Right, Like everyone 871 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,480 Speaker 1: wants to yell at women and argue and discuss and 872 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,440 Speaker 1: oppress their bodies, but I don't ever hear someone saying, no, 873 00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,880 Speaker 1: we want you to give birth to this baby and 874 00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,799 Speaker 1: here's how we will help you. Because the number one 875 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: reason that women terminate pregnancies is actually poverty, yes, and 876 00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,279 Speaker 1: so that's another you know, It's like when we think 877 00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 1: about when I think about the work that you've birthed 878 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: with this, not only are you creating safety for allowing 879 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: children to come into this world that sacred experience, but 880 00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,719 Speaker 1: you are creating the sacred container that surrounds them with 881 00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:51,319 Speaker 1: the love and compassion that is necessary for life and 882 00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:55,000 Speaker 1: that is deserved by every life that enters this world. 883 00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: And that is typically the thing that so many women 884 00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,840 Speaker 1: do not have the opportunity to give their children. It 885 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:06,600 Speaker 1: is the feeling of welcoming, of loving, of celebrating. We 886 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,920 Speaker 1: see that on TV a lot, right because you often 887 00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,040 Speaker 1: see on TV birth happening between a two parent household 888 00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: that usually has you know, no like present trauma. That 889 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:20,640 Speaker 1: is bringing the baby into the world to a big 890 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,680 Speaker 1: family that's going to help them with a great baby shower, 891 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:26,799 Speaker 1: and they're coming home to this beautiful room that's decorated 892 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: for them. That's not necessarily the average experience of most 893 00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 1: people that bring children into the world. There is a 894 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,320 Speaker 1: lot of pain in it for a lot of people, 895 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,800 Speaker 1: a lot of hopelessness that you never want to extend 896 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:45,439 Speaker 1: to your child who doesn't want to be a great mother, 897 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 1: you know, but to give them this as the pillar, 898 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:53,040 Speaker 1: as the backbone behind them, it changes the way that 899 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:57,600 Speaker 1: you can navigate loving someone, being there for someone, all 900 00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:00,279 Speaker 1: the things that we don't talk about enough that we 901 00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,200 Speaker 1: actually do have to learn when we first become mothers, 902 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,920 Speaker 1: and especially depending on what your childhood was like or 903 00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:10,279 Speaker 1: what your experiences are. You know, very often people are 904 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 1: creating a love for their child they didn't feel for themselves, 905 00:55:13,719 --> 00:55:17,640 Speaker 1: and it's such sacred, dignified work, it's such honorable work. 906 00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 1: So I'm just hearing like the depth of purpose and 907 00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,400 Speaker 1: what you've created, but not only all of the ways 908 00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:28,680 Speaker 1: that it is going to profoundly alter women physically, but 909 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,280 Speaker 1: also the intended good will that this sets forward into 910 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 1: their family lineage. 911 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,359 Speaker 4: I receive that, and I'm so glad that you are 912 00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,960 Speaker 4: highlighting the intersection between the maternal health crisis and the 913 00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:48,400 Speaker 4: financial crisis that we're in, because that is something that 914 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:52,319 Speaker 4: we want to address upfront. And I think, you know, 915 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,480 Speaker 4: one of the things that is important about this work 916 00:55:56,560 --> 00:56:03,560 Speaker 4: is while we are stubbornly, singularly focused on expanding access 917 00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,319 Speaker 4: to midwif free care and lifting that up as a 918 00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:12,439 Speaker 4: solution because I think there are many organizations and many 919 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:16,759 Speaker 4: people doing great work around improving maternal health conditions in 920 00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,960 Speaker 4: this country, but I think they're often doing it with 921 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 4: like a diffused focus that people can't really grab onto. 922 00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:25,239 Speaker 4: So I think if we focus on this one thing, 923 00:56:26,040 --> 00:56:26,960 Speaker 4: we can make a difference. 924 00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:27,200 Speaker 3: Right. 925 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 4: But the way that we're approaching partners is, this is 926 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 4: what we are going to do. Will you help us 927 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:38,839 Speaker 4: in this and what can you do right? Because we 928 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:44,640 Speaker 4: know that this is a complex problem and the poverty 929 00:56:44,680 --> 00:56:50,160 Speaker 4: piece is massive, and so I am so honestly one 930 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640 Speaker 4: of the biggest blessings and another reason you caught me 931 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,400 Speaker 4: and I'm telling you today this was a divine appointment 932 00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,160 Speaker 4: with you today because we were supposed to talk like 933 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:02,960 Speaker 4: a month ago, I wouldn't have had this same posture. 934 00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,919 Speaker 4: I wouldn't have had the same story to tell because 935 00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,799 Speaker 4: I wasn't at this point in the story yet of 936 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 4: the building of Birth Fund. But literally today I got 937 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:14,440 Speaker 4: to see kind of like the fruit of our labor, 938 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,880 Speaker 4: not just in meeting these families, but also in our 939 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:25,160 Speaker 4: presenting partnership with so far we are about to share 940 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,360 Speaker 4: with the world this massive financial commitment that they've made 941 00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:31,919 Speaker 4: to birth Fund, but directly to these families. So each 942 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 4: of these families are getting ten thousand dollars invested into 943 00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 4: their and invested into their family through a newborn vault. 944 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 4: This is what it's called, and it has a high 945 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 4: interest higher interest rate than any other checking or savings accounts, 946 00:57:47,720 --> 00:57:51,000 Speaker 4: like ten times the national average and more than that, 947 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:54,400 Speaker 4: they are being paired with a certified financial planner that 948 00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:55,920 Speaker 4: is going to sit with them in their family to 949 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,240 Speaker 4: help them map out their family's financial future. 950 00:57:58,520 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 2: Okay, they are. 951 00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:05,480 Speaker 4: Building a bespoke financial literacy program that's going to give 952 00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 4: them step by step, a step by step guide for 953 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:11,600 Speaker 4: how to budget for their family from the newborn stage 954 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:17,720 Speaker 4: until college. This particular vault that they're gifting them is 955 00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:23,000 Speaker 4: also going to help them earmark savings for college for big, 956 00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:28,960 Speaker 4: big moments like this is the type of financial literacy 957 00:58:28,960 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 4: and preparedness that we are not as a country equipping 958 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,800 Speaker 4: families with. And yet we're shaming them when, as you say, 959 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,680 Speaker 4: they make the decision, fifty percent, fifty six percent of 960 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 4: families do not feel fifty six percent of people in 961 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:49,080 Speaker 4: this country do not feel that they can afford to 962 00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 4: expand their family Yeah, So before we are shaming people 963 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 4: for why they are terminating pregnancies, we should be first 964 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:02,600 Speaker 4: of all compassionate and understanding empathetic about the conditions that 965 00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:04,520 Speaker 4: they're living in that they wouldn't want to bring a 966 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:08,080 Speaker 4: child into and doing our part to help shift those 967 00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 4: conditions and make it a better environment to bring a 968 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:13,840 Speaker 4: child into this world. And that's what this work is about. 969 00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 4: And so you know, partners like SOFI are just coming 970 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,120 Speaker 4: to the table and creative additive ways that are expanding 971 00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,440 Speaker 4: our program and kind of creating this wrap around support 972 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,280 Speaker 4: model that we can use as a model for what 973 00:59:26,320 --> 00:59:29,560 Speaker 4: the government should be doing and frankly what private business 974 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,040 Speaker 4: should be doing. So you know, we've gone to like 975 00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,720 Speaker 4: this is what I mean by like literally everything I've 976 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:40,520 Speaker 4: ever done has culminated in this work. Every brand partnership 977 00:59:40,800 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 4: that I've ever worked with, Oh, believe that they got 978 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,040 Speaker 4: had up about birth Fund, and believe that many of 979 00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:49,200 Speaker 4: them came to the table creatively. Bobby is one of 980 00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 4: I'm an investor in Bobby. It's a woman led formula company. 981 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 4: They came to the table and said, yeah, we want 982 00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:00,840 Speaker 4: to help, and we will sponsor a year of lactation 983 01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:04,320 Speaker 4: support for your families in addition to giving them free 984 01:00:04,360 --> 01:00:07,600 Speaker 4: formula for a year if they need it, if breast 985 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:09,720 Speaker 4: feeding isn't successful for them, or if they make a 986 01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,440 Speaker 4: different choice. We've talked to baby lists who makes you know, 987 01:00:13,560 --> 01:00:17,320 Speaker 4: baby registries. They're giving our families fifteen hundred dollars in 988 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,160 Speaker 4: gift cards. So the things that they thought they couldn't 989 01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:24,680 Speaker 4: afford suddenly they can't. Like, we're making this this comprehensive 990 01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:29,240 Speaker 4: like package for families that, like I wish I had 991 01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 4: access to. I think every family deserves to have access to. 992 01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,080 Speaker 4: If you're taking on the ultimate sacrifice of expanding the 993 01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:37,800 Speaker 4: population in this country, somebody should be giving you some 994 01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,440 Speaker 4: rewards for that, you know, not shaming you and not 995 01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,880 Speaker 4: just hitting you with these bills and this care that's 996 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 4: so below par. So I feel like what we you know, 997 01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,400 Speaker 4: we are living in a time that's very dark. It 998 01:00:50,440 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 4: can feel very heavy, and it can feel like like 999 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 4: the light, it's hard to find the light sometimes even 1000 01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,600 Speaker 4: when you're a light seeker. And I feel really powered 1001 01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 4: by being able to take back my power and focus 1002 01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:07,680 Speaker 4: on what is the change I want to make, What's 1003 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,320 Speaker 4: the kind of world I wish I could live in? 1004 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:11,800 Speaker 4: And how can I create that even just for one person? 1005 01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 4: Because that's enough. And that's the thing that got me 1006 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 4: started on this path. Like when I heard the call, 1007 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:23,880 Speaker 4: I questioned it. I was like, is this even going 1008 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,160 Speaker 4: to be? 1009 01:01:24,320 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 2: Like? What's is this impact going to be great? 1010 01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:31,280 Speaker 4: How much would I have to raise to really have 1011 01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:33,960 Speaker 4: the kind of impact we need to make in this country? 1012 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 4: Like I would need to raise like millions and millions 1013 01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,080 Speaker 4: and millions of dollars? And then I just and so 1014 01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 4: I kind of kept ignoring this call. I would I 1015 01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:45,680 Speaker 4: was not picking up this call. I was not And 1016 01:01:45,720 --> 01:01:47,640 Speaker 4: then on top of it, I was like, oh my god, 1017 01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,440 Speaker 4: I have so much to do already. How am I 1018 01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,160 Speaker 4: going to make time for this? And then kind of 1019 01:01:51,200 --> 01:01:53,600 Speaker 4: like pregnancy. Honestly, it's kind of like my reaction to pregnancy. 1020 01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:55,080 Speaker 4: I was like, Oh no, we don't have time for 1021 01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:59,080 Speaker 4: that right now. No girl, or plate his pull come 1022 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:02,360 Speaker 4: back another day. Like it was very that I was like, ooh, girl, 1023 01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:05,320 Speaker 4: we don't have time for all this. Also like I 1024 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,720 Speaker 4: don't honestly truly, and I feel like you're getting off 1025 01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:10,280 Speaker 4: a lot. It was like a therapy session, but I'm 1026 01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 4: like I have I've carried some wounds with me from 1027 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 4: the corporate world, and I have enjoyed working as kind 1028 01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:22,320 Speaker 4: of a free agent, not really having to rely on 1029 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 4: teams that I've built and cultivated. And I knew that 1030 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,920 Speaker 4: this calling was big and that it was going to 1031 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:32,760 Speaker 4: require a team, and that it's not something I could 1032 01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,520 Speaker 4: do by myself, and that scared me, and that's also 1033 01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 4: why I put it off. And then I was called 1034 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:41,600 Speaker 4: to do healing work around some of the wounds I've 1035 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 4: been carrying around with me quietly, no one sees them. 1036 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,960 Speaker 4: I had them there there, and I've had to do 1037 01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:54,680 Speaker 4: some like deep personal development healing work in order to 1038 01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 4: be the person who could answer this call and who 1039 01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:02,000 Speaker 4: could carry out this mission. And so I feel so grateful. 1040 01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:04,800 Speaker 4: Again it all comes back to my son. I feel 1041 01:03:04,840 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 4: so grateful to that powerful little soul that chose me, 1042 01:03:10,360 --> 01:03:16,680 Speaker 4: that made way for all of this expansion in every way, 1043 01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,600 Speaker 4: and he brings so much joy, Like this conversation is 1044 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 4: so serious, but like our home is so silly. I'm 1045 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,600 Speaker 4: so silly at home with him, Like he's like the 1046 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:28,760 Speaker 4: lightest part of my life, and it balances out this 1047 01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 4: type of work. And also this work brings so much joy, 1048 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 4: and it brings so much light and levity too, But 1049 01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:40,120 Speaker 4: I just feel I feel grateful that, like I had 1050 01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:42,680 Speaker 4: to get over myself and so much of what I 1051 01:03:42,760 --> 01:03:44,600 Speaker 4: was caring and I had to let it go in 1052 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 4: order to say, Okay, yes, Scot, I will take this call. 1053 01:03:47,480 --> 01:03:50,160 Speaker 4: I will take this call. I will I will follow 1054 01:03:50,200 --> 01:03:53,200 Speaker 4: your lead. I will do this even if and I 1055 01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:56,960 Speaker 4: started small, it was like I don't even feel confident 1056 01:03:57,080 --> 01:03:59,160 Speaker 4: enough to call anybody else and convince them to help 1057 01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,000 Speaker 4: me with this yet. So I'm just going to do 1058 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,120 Speaker 4: it as like my own little birthday fundraiser, and I'm 1059 01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:05,280 Speaker 4: going to put my own little money into this fundraiser, 1060 01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,000 Speaker 4: and I'm going to ask my community if they want 1061 01:04:07,000 --> 01:04:08,800 Speaker 4: to be part of it, you can do it, and 1062 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,440 Speaker 4: like I'm not going to make a big deal out 1063 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 4: of it. There was no like follow up post, there 1064 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 4: was no like press announcement. It was just like, let 1065 01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:19,720 Speaker 4: me just see if like people will show up, yeah. 1066 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 2: And it was. 1067 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:22,080 Speaker 4: It was it was like it was like having a 1068 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,400 Speaker 4: birthday party online, like not knowing anyone who was going 1069 01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:29,080 Speaker 4: to show up to it. And then and then somebody 1070 01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:30,960 Speaker 4: called me, They're like, did you see that you exceeded 1071 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 4: your fundraising goal in sixteen hours, and I was like 1072 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,960 Speaker 4: what And I went on and I was like, that's it, 1073 01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:39,720 Speaker 4: bet God, Yeah, I got you. 1074 01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:41,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So I hear you like, that's. 1075 01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:45,480 Speaker 4: The this is my sign, this is the this is 1076 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,440 Speaker 4: the case study. This is like the proof of concept 1077 01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 4: that I needed. I am going to take this little, 1078 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:56,040 Speaker 4: simple one to one community support model where if it's 1079 01:04:56,080 --> 01:04:59,400 Speaker 4: with the intention, if I Elaine wells Wet one person 1080 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:02,280 Speaker 4: can so for one family in my community to have 1081 01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:09,280 Speaker 4: this empowered safe birth experience, then I have done important work. 1082 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,560 Speaker 2: I've done enough. 1083 01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,320 Speaker 4: This is going to have generational impact and if I 1084 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:18,080 Speaker 4: can inspire other people to and by the way, in 1085 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:21,000 Speaker 4: that sixteen thousand dollars that we raise in those sixteen hours, 1086 01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,560 Speaker 4: we were able to support not one, but two families. 1087 01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 4: And I was just like, we can scale this, Like 1088 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:29,960 Speaker 4: this is a simple one to one community model that 1089 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 4: we can scale overnight. I know ten people right now 1090 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,959 Speaker 4: I could call who can afford to cover the cost 1091 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 4: of multiple people's birth experiences. 1092 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,440 Speaker 2: And then wait, all those corporate partners I've been working. 1093 01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:45,400 Speaker 4: With all these years, all these deals I've been drafting 1094 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,320 Speaker 4: and slanging from my magazine editors, because please believe editors 1095 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 4: are also salespeople. We know how to keep a magazine afloat, 1096 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:56,120 Speaker 4: and it's with the support of sponsorship. We know how 1097 01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,800 Speaker 4: to go out there and sell something we believe in, 1098 01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,000 Speaker 4: stories that we believe in. 1099 01:05:59,360 --> 01:06:00,280 Speaker 2: That's what this is is. 1100 01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,840 Speaker 4: It's just like everything felt like an AHA moment about this. 1101 01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 4: It was like I could see the stars aligning, I 1102 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 4: could see it all connected. It was like beautiful moment. 1103 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:08,960 Speaker 4: It was like a beautiful mind moment, you know. I 1104 01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 4: was like, I see how this can happen. And what 1105 01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:15,760 Speaker 4: it required, though, was other people's belief. And that's something 1106 01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 4: I can't control. I have to have the belief. I 1107 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:22,000 Speaker 4: have to have the conviction that's strong enough to make 1108 01:06:22,040 --> 01:06:27,000 Speaker 4: the case, and then it's up to them and every DeBie, 1109 01:06:27,280 --> 01:06:31,840 Speaker 4: every person I called on my wish list said yes, 1110 01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:39,120 Speaker 4: come on, every everyone. Sometimes I just have to sit down. 1111 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 4: I'm just like I need to lay down and just 1112 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 4: let this marinate, Like did this happen? 1113 01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:45,080 Speaker 2: And we're just getting started. 1114 01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,160 Speaker 1: And there's a couple things that I really want to highlight, 1115 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: especially as it speaks to purpose one. Thank you for 1116 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:54,800 Speaker 1: generously sharing that you know you had to kind of 1117 01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: step back and do some self exploration and see you 1118 01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:02,400 Speaker 1: know where the shadows and what is being repressed and 1119 01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:04,600 Speaker 1: how can I meet it? Because that's a part of 1120 01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:06,960 Speaker 1: purpose too. You can get the call, it doesn't mean 1121 01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,520 Speaker 1: the call is ready to go. You have the seed 1122 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:13,680 Speaker 1: of awareness that has planted in you with God's voice. 1123 01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:17,480 Speaker 1: And then sometimes we have to do the work necessary 1124 01:07:17,520 --> 01:07:21,320 Speaker 1: to rise to God's occasion, you know, to rise to 1125 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,440 Speaker 1: the occasion of purpose. And that's why and we've been, 1126 01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,520 Speaker 1: I must say, we have been beautifully illustrating this throughout 1127 01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,280 Speaker 1: the episode. That's why. Purpose is this really this this 1128 01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:38,880 Speaker 1: slow growing formula, this equation that presents itself and unveils 1129 01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:41,600 Speaker 1: itself in your life over time. And it's not just 1130 01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,760 Speaker 1: a quote unquote title right. 1131 01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:44,240 Speaker 2: Where it's not. 1132 01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:48,480 Speaker 1: It can't ever just be one thing. It's the totality 1133 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,920 Speaker 1: of all of it. But sometimes we do have to 1134 01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:54,480 Speaker 1: pause and prepare to get to that next evolution of 1135 01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:59,000 Speaker 1: what the purpose is. It's just it's so beautiful, it's 1136 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:03,800 Speaker 1: it's it's so powerful for everyone listening, I would love 1137 01:08:03,840 --> 01:08:09,040 Speaker 1: if you would share two ways. First, if anyone listening 1138 01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:12,760 Speaker 1: is really like filling this deep inside and saying I 1139 01:08:12,800 --> 01:08:15,720 Speaker 1: have something to give to this, how can someone come 1140 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,759 Speaker 1: on and really pay it forward. And also for anyone 1141 01:08:19,760 --> 01:08:22,800 Speaker 1: that's listening and saying I really need this, what's the 1142 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:24,880 Speaker 1: best way for them to get connected to this work? 1143 01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:25,920 Speaker 2: Yes, I love that. 1144 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,120 Speaker 4: So we've made it so easy for people to be 1145 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:35,000 Speaker 4: a part of this by opening up the fundraiser on Instagram. 1146 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,200 Speaker 4: So while we have these incredible corporate partners and these 1147 01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 4: incredible individual donors like Serena Williams and Alexis Ohanian and 1148 01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:45,439 Speaker 4: all these great people, it's not just for rich folks 1149 01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,040 Speaker 4: Like this is that there is an Instagram fundraiser that 1150 01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,920 Speaker 4: is live and it will not be live forever. It 1151 01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,360 Speaker 4: is running through May tenth, just before Mother's Day, and 1152 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,840 Speaker 4: so May eleventh actually is when it ends. And so 1153 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:03,519 Speaker 4: I would humbly ask, if you have a heart to give, 1154 01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:06,479 Speaker 4: give what you can give it there and it will 1155 01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:10,080 Speaker 4: go directly to families who will benefit from this kind 1156 01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,120 Speaker 4: of transformative care. And then in terms of people who 1157 01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,160 Speaker 4: are desiring this care. On Father's Day, we are going 1158 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:21,840 Speaker 4: to open up applications publicly. Once we've closed this first 1159 01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:24,000 Speaker 4: public raise and we know exactly what our capacity to 1160 01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:27,200 Speaker 4: give is, there will be an open call for applications 1161 01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:32,040 Speaker 4: and it will be designated based on the regions where 1162 01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,080 Speaker 4: we have participating birth workers, and we're building this thing 1163 01:09:35,400 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 4: really thoughtfully, really slowly. Birth is life or death, and 1164 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:42,519 Speaker 4: so it's important that we are working with the most 1165 01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 4: qualified the birth workers who have the best outcomes, and 1166 01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,240 Speaker 4: we're vetting those partners and we'll be growing our network 1167 01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,400 Speaker 4: over time. So for those who are looking for that care, 1168 01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 4: you can stay tuned and check in with birth Fund 1169 01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 4: on Instagram around Father's Day. Also, just stay tuned, like 1170 01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:03,080 Speaker 4: follow us, because there's news all the time that we're 1171 01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 4: dropping and there will be different opportunities to get involved 1172 01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:08,439 Speaker 4: along the way. We'll have different kind of pop up 1173 01:10:08,479 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 4: events throughout the year and that sort of thing as well. 1174 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:13,879 Speaker 2: So amazing, I'm excited. 1175 01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:16,559 Speaker 1: At the end of every episode, I ask each guest 1176 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,439 Speaker 1: to provide those listening with a little bit of soul work. 1177 01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,240 Speaker 1: So this is something that after they've heard this episode 1178 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: and until we meet again next week, they can really 1179 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 1: kind of savor and integrate everything that they've heard. And 1180 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,160 Speaker 1: it could be as simple as like a thought starter, 1181 01:10:33,479 --> 01:10:37,480 Speaker 1: a journal prompt, an exercise of some sort or practice. 1182 01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:40,200 Speaker 1: But what should the soul work be for everyone listening? 1183 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:48,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's a big question, Oprah, fruit of that tree. 1184 01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:53,680 Speaker 3: I guess I would say, what's coming up for me 1185 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,759 Speaker 3: right now is what's calling you? And I think sometimes 1186 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:04,759 Speaker 3: you have to get quiet to hear that call. And 1187 01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,720 Speaker 3: if you already know what's calling you, I would my 1188 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,320 Speaker 3: public question would be what's holding you back from picking 1189 01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:13,960 Speaker 3: up that call? 1190 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:19,160 Speaker 4: And is it you know, whatever that is. I think 1191 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:23,720 Speaker 4: this is an invitation to examine that, work through that, 1192 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,439 Speaker 4: heal that because whatever that is, it's keeping you small. 1193 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:32,719 Speaker 4: And you were called to greatness and you were called 1194 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:37,000 Speaker 4: to service that will benefit more than you. So I 1195 01:11:37,040 --> 01:11:39,680 Speaker 4: think sometimes the call is to get out of your 1196 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:44,080 Speaker 4: own way, and that certainly was a call for me 1197 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,439 Speaker 4: that I had to answer first before I could answer 1198 01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:46,840 Speaker 4: this call. 1199 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 3: So that's what I would share. 1200 01:11:49,320 --> 01:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Beautiful, Thank you, thank you. 1201 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:55,120 Speaker 2: This was so great, Debbie. 1202 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:57,880 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for creating that space and have 1203 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,799 Speaker 4: this conversation. I have not had a lot of conversations 1204 01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,720 Speaker 4: about birth one, but this one feels different and I'm 1205 01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:04,760 Speaker 4: very grateful for it. 1206 01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you so much. Thank you for the 1207 01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,880 Speaker 1: work that you were birthing in the world. Thank you 1208 01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 1: for sharing your light, thank you for answering your call. 1209 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:14,240 Speaker 2: It is. 1210 01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,439 Speaker 1: This is such an important, powerful work that doesn't just 1211 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,720 Speaker 1: affect the women of this lifetime right like this is 1212 01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:29,240 Speaker 1: lineage work, this is generational work. We've shifted a pattern 1213 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,800 Speaker 1: in our family system for good and it changes the 1214 01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,639 Speaker 1: way people get to be in the world. So thank 1215 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,599 Speaker 1: you so much and thank you for coming now. Mistay 1216 01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: stay Stay. The content presented on Deeply Well serves solely 1217 01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:50,160 Speaker 1: for educational and informational purposes. It should not be considered 1218 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:54,600 Speaker 1: a replacement for personalized medical or mental health guidance, and 1219 01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:59,280 Speaker 1: does not constitute a provider patient relationship. 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