1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: Oh, beat force. If it doesn't work, you're just not 2 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: using enough. You're listening to soft A Gradio Special Operations, 3 00:00:24,920 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: military news and straight talk with the guys and the community. Hey, everybody, 4 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: welcome back to Software Radio Special guests today. Good friend 5 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: of mine, Eric Davis. I can't believe it's been I 6 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: don't want to say. I feel like if I say 7 00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: how long we've known each other, I feel like an 8 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: old man. I know you keep eating it, you keep 9 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:30,600 Speaker 1: saying I think so a little bit seven. Yeah, two 10 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: thousand nineteen, almost twenties, So you gotta add a couple 11 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: more years, buddy, So long time. Eric and I actually 12 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: went through Bud's training together. Maybe maybe we can tell 13 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: the just on this story I'm not telling. Will tell 14 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: the story. We can leave the names. I don't want 15 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 1: to tell that story. Let's tell the story about when 16 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: you were going to fail out of third phase, when 17 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: I saved you. All the time, you never tell about 18 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: the story. Everyone want to talk about that. It's probably 19 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: better he did save my ass. Anyway. Eric is in 20 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: New York. He came out to help with the first 21 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: kind of pilot course we did for the Great Club Academy, 22 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,919 Speaker 1: which was a great, just a great event. We had 23 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: a really good time in Virginia International Race Way VR, 24 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: just some you know, fun time. I think we we 25 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 1: learned a lot, probably too heavy on the classroom more 26 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 1: practical evolutions next time. But hey, that's that's why we 27 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 1: run this pilot course. But I think everyone, just by 28 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: the emails and testimonials are kind of had a really 29 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: good time. So but then Eric and I were talking 30 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: and we're I've been trying to figure out a way 31 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: to work work with or for a long time, and 32 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,680 Speaker 1: then you know, we just figured, hey, let's come to 33 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: New York, you're nearby. We'll do sit down. You and 34 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: I get to talk to getch some stuff out, catch up. Also, 35 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: we've we published Eric's book, Raising Men through the software 36 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: imprint St. Martin's Press. We'll talk about that book on 37 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: the show as well. But yeah, dude, I'm just glad 38 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: you're here. Man, it's nice to see. It seems like 39 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 1: life happens and we get busy and twenty years flies by. 40 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: You I know, man, it goes faster and faster to 41 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: the older you get. Anyway, I never had a chance 42 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: to really check in with you on on your kind 43 00:03:10,919 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 1: of experience with academy and interacting with some of the 44 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: some of the members of the community that we built 45 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: over the last seven years. You got any uh not 46 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: first impressions, last impressions, first and last impressions. Yeah, you know, 47 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: there's a couple of things that really stood out to 48 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 1: me in no particular order. You know, We're sitting at 49 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: the bar last night doing the cigars and a little 50 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:33,840 Speaker 1: bit of whiskey and I'll chat with one of the 51 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: which was part of just so people understand that that 52 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: was part of the experience, was we would put money 53 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: on the bar and have basically a social after which 54 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: we did two nights we hosted a kind of get 55 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: to know use social with these guys and then that's 56 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 1: the second night. That's whatever was talking about. We put 57 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: money on the bar and part of it is just 58 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: to kind of shoot the ship and get to know 59 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: know each other. Right. Oh yeah, I mean that's the thing, 60 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, even like you mentioned with the aostroom being 61 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: a little heavy, and you know, that's that's what all 62 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: of our training is like, right, That's what seal training 63 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: is like. We travel, we go somewhere odd and uncomfortable 64 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: and weird that we've never been to before. We spent 65 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: some time in classrooms. But you know, high risk evolutions, 66 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: um high levels of performance, you've got to get some 67 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: of the uh you know, the mental stuff in there 68 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: before you go out and do it. But like I 69 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: was saying, nowhere at the bar, and that's the thing, 70 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 1: you're shooting the ship. You're you're bullshitting with guys, your bitching, 71 00:04:25,160 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: You're you're talking about what was great, what was good, 72 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And you know, one of the things 73 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: that really hit me was, you know, I explained to people, 74 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 1: the only reason I became a Seal is because I 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: was just the biggest fan, right, I was just a 76 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 1: real big fan, so much so that I had to 77 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: go in there and do it. And I really missed 78 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: that camaraderie of course, the brotherhood, that kind of tribal 79 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: feel of the Seal teams. But hanging out with this 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: group of guys, it's I explained to it my go 81 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: I actually liked this better because really we're all enthusiasts there, 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If they paid their money, 83 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: signed up and showed up, you know that they're an 84 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 1: enthusiast of special operations training in mindset at like I 85 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: said as am. I, So there's like more things we 86 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: have in common, if that makes sense. So in a 87 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 1: stealable tune, their great guys, but they're not all necessarily 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs or executives, you know. So the guys that raised 89 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: their hand for an event like this, this kind of 90 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: exclusive premier kind of deal, you know, these are guys 91 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: that are doing pretty well obviously, and there's just so many, 92 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: so much more to talk about with them besides just 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: the experience in life and kids and family and business 94 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: and everything like that. So that was probably my biggest takeaway, 95 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: just to feel that community again. And I hope those 96 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: guys felt that too, Like they weren't outsiders visiting our community. 97 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: They were outsiders joining our community. And I really just 98 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: love that aspect. Yeah, I mean, and then look, you know, 99 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: we were one of the first to to really get 100 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,800 Speaker 1: out there in the digital space, in the podcast space 101 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 1: to kind of bring this community and this world that 102 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: was relatively unknown since before nine eleven, all of a 103 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: sudden became very well known but there was really nothing 104 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: on the internet or podcasts. Um we were really the first, 105 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: which is kind of will but you know, to be 106 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 1: honest and admit, I felt like we grew pretty fast 107 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: a couple of years. For the first to three years 108 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: in business, we did a really good job of maintaining 109 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 1: that community. It was close, engaging, and then as the 110 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: business started a scale, we kind of lost touch, you know, 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: and we even got rid of our best site because 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: we were trying to experiment going mainstream, which was software 113 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: dot com. And now that's back, and you know, I've 114 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: announced it before on the show, and software is was 115 00:06:33,800 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 1: back since last Monday. But the new kind of supersite 116 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: launches in October thirty. If everything's rebranded integrated. We have 117 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: a new team room area that's basically the community that 118 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: has the video content, the chats, the long form editorial 119 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: and the interaction that we just I kind of can't 120 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: believe on the many is, but I kind of ignored 121 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: it for a couple of years. It just kind of 122 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: went away. And just relaunching that domain aim and seeing 123 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:02,919 Speaker 1: people interact on social it's it's just nice to have 124 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: software back. And now software is the center of the 125 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: universe for everything we do, content and commerce and and 126 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: a big push now until you know the end of 127 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: the year, and and it continues pushes this community that 128 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Eric was just talking about. And that's not only you know, 129 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 1: do we have the community online, but plan to have 130 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,119 Speaker 1: our annual member party in Las Vegas around the Shot Show, 131 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 1: and we plan to turn this Craig Club Academy into 132 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: a festival. So imagine those of you that are that 133 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: know about the Shot Show in Vegas, it's industry insiders. 134 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 1: It's really hard to access. So why not just create 135 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: like a really cool too three day festival, have multiple 136 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 1: know general mission so guys can see all the vendors, 137 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: throw a big concert at night with a cool, cool band, 138 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: and then have this really cool training like Eric gave 139 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: us a really good idea for like father Son sniper 140 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: stock like stealth and concealment and run run this stuff 141 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: in parallels. So guys can sign up for that. They 142 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: can sign up for two day driving, two day Advanced 143 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 1: Tactical Shooting course. So we're gonna have like a much 144 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: bigger menu next year and we'll have that on on 145 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: Software dot com as well and into November that will 146 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: be available. So excited about that. But the community, Sorry, 147 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: this is a very long interruption. Yeah, but you don't 148 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: but the community, I mean, it's just important, you know, 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 1: And I want to. I want to let people know 150 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:33,120 Speaker 1: that this this is a commitment that I have. And 151 00:08:33,160 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: it was nice to even to hear what was the 152 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: doc the psychologists he was said, I've even noticed when 153 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: I got back on the podcast, he's like, I can 154 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: feel like there's this transition happening. So it's just good. 155 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 1: It was nice to be around these guys and hear 156 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: that for sure, for sure, And I'll read real quick 157 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: and I'll turn back over to York now that I've 158 00:08:53,840 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: totally hijacked your um. This was from Doug, a great 159 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: opportunity for me to pull the men in my family 160 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: together and do something fun. Doug brought his two older 161 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: boys I think, and his brother along with him, and 162 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: he says great training learned, a lot of the instructors 163 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: were awesome. Definitely planned to do this again. So that's 164 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: kind of like the spirit of this thing. And I'm 165 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: really glad to kind of go into the holiday fourth 166 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 1: quarter because I told the listeners on the show of 167 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: and I think it's like three or four shows back, 168 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: just I was just saying, look, you know, we've been 169 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: through hell this summer. We had all these growing pains, 170 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: had to you know, just deal with it, make a 171 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: lot of changes and just clean up a lot of mess. 172 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: And it's been really the most challenging year I've had 173 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: in business in seven years. Was from January until till now. 174 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: I mean the summers is brutal. And but anyway, we're 175 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: digging out into Eric's point again. It's you know, had 176 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: had I not had the experience as a seal, but 177 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: probably more are time during the sniper course when we 178 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 1: really did focus on mindset and positive psychology, I probably 179 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: would have thrown the top. Man. I'm telling you, I'm 180 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 1: not a guy that's been on fifteen combat deployments, but 181 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: I've been Iraq and Afghanistan, and I'm more stressful this 182 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: year than I wasn't on any operation I was on 183 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: in Afghanistan or Iraq. Oh yeah, yeah, the stressors and 184 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: pressure of entrepreneurship. Yeah, but you're saying, I mean you 185 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: said that, so you're you're at the bar the second 186 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: night in the community that you were on that track 187 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: and before I totally hijacked you. Yeah. Yeah, And we 188 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,320 Speaker 1: were talking about the some of the future events, um 189 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: and you know that's where the the idea of a 190 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 1: father's son stock came up and I was like, yeah, 191 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, you guys built. You know, we teach about 192 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: camouflage and concealment. You build your gilly suits together, you 193 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 1: go out into the field, you know, you do a 194 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: partner stock and you know, there's all kinds of fun 195 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,679 Speaker 1: things to do there. And then we were just spitball 196 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: and all the different things there are, and that's you know, 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,839 Speaker 1: I think one of the unique things about the Seal 198 00:10:56,920 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 1: teams is you truly are a jack of all trades 199 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: and sumter of many right, So as this academy concept grows, 200 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: I think it will be important to to build that 201 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: internal community inside of software too. Just like a seal platoon, 202 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: you know, you have experts, you have expert snipers, you 203 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: have the dive guy, the air ops guy, you know 204 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,480 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So you know, part of those growing 205 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: pains is that internal team too, Like all right, well, 206 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: they'll probably be a community of people who are more 207 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: into air ops in a community of people who are 208 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,320 Speaker 1: into the human intelligence things and technical surveillance and you know, 209 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: you know what I'm talking about, things like that, and 210 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: during that event, boy, you could really break it out. 211 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: And you know, the vendors too, will typically show up 212 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: and really really powerful ways too with some cool gear, 213 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 1: new stuff. Get to touch it, feel it. And the 214 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: guys I can't say enough about the guys that VR 215 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: just solid, solid cadre and just good people, so excited 216 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 1: to I mean. And the funny thing is, right, it's 217 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 1: whether you around cars, airplanes, guns, it's like, yeah, you know, 218 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: we go out to the bar, it's like we talk 219 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: about like women. I forget to quote one of the 220 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: one we're flying around and he's like, you know, when 221 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:03,920 Speaker 1: we're when we're around women, all we do is talk 222 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: about cars, guns, airplanes like things were into and then 223 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,560 Speaker 1: when we're when we're around that stuff a talking to women, right, 224 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: But this is cool. I think it's like again, in 225 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 1: this day and age, it's tough to find a place 226 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 1: where you can be a dude and be a guy 227 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: and like, look, there's there's all sorts of people in 228 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: this world, which is fine, but it's okay to be 229 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: like a straight mail and have like go bond over 230 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,319 Speaker 1: some you know, high speed tackle driving and shooting and 231 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: some cigars and whiskey afterwards. Yeah, it's it's not only 232 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: it's okay, it's it's really important. You know, we're all 233 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 1: born and bred to be in that kind of community. 234 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think as the world gets more 235 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 1: competitive and dynamic too, men are going to have more 236 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 1: and more of a difficult time finding other men who 237 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 1: enjoy those kind of activities, who are still not afraid 238 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,839 Speaker 1: to be the hunter fighters. And that was another thing too. 239 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: I was talking to the guys in the classroom, Um, 240 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: we were doing a home defense brief, and I explained 241 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: to my go, you know, you're one of your best 242 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: somebody asked me a question, I go, you know, you're 243 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:05,959 Speaker 1: probably your best source is the group of men right 244 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: here with you right now. So that was another thing 245 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: were I really noticed the event pointing out, like those 246 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: guys were meeting each other as well, making their connections. 247 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: So you know, this is one big community, but they're 248 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: gonna be able to side, like break off of the 249 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: side and start creating their own little pods as well, 250 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: which is going to be really powerful for them because, 251 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 1: like I said, it's I teach that to people all 252 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:27,960 Speaker 1: the time, building your tribe, and it's very very difficult 253 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: to do. Yeah, and we have we have a great tribe, 254 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: and it's just nice to kind of get the tribe 255 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: back together. So it kind of came together last minute. 256 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:38,800 Speaker 1: And now I'm looking at next year. We've already reserved 257 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: the dates and it's going to be more of a 258 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:44,040 Speaker 1: more accessible like we're looking at doing an air Soft 259 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: like little full on like full up war game with 260 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: h U you know, driving dedicated two day driving, dedicated 261 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: tactical shooting, and then doing the kind of stealth and 262 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: concealment father Son event out for two days, and on 263 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: top of that, you know, every night having you know, 264 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what level of entertainment we get. I 265 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 1: know Jason Row from Breaking Benjamin, but something a really 266 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: cool band that kind of gets it and fits into this. UM. 267 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: I know Jason from I know he's he's a big 268 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: podcast fan, so that's how I met him, so I think, 269 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: And as far as like the accessibility, having people be 270 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: able to just show up, buy a ticket to come 271 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: and hang out UM and a kind of small, smaller 272 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: private venue here some really good music, but also interact 273 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 1: with the guys. Look at the vendors, like all the 274 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: latest gear and equipment and guns. I think it'll be 275 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: a pretty cool thing and nobody's doing it again. That's 276 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I like about it is nobody. 277 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: It's kind of obvious to me now, But why why 278 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: hasn't someone done this sooner? But I talked about I 279 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: was at this Harvard executive program. You know, we did 280 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 1: all I probably read sixty case studies, and one of 281 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: them was on the Reinvention Circus by you know, in class, 282 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,800 Speaker 1: we listed all the negative things that came up in 283 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: our head when we talk about the circus, right, you know, 284 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: the kind of dirty the carnies, the clowns, you know, 285 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: all the all the weird stuff, right, the freak shows. 286 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: It was like Circle got rid of all that and 287 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: just kept the good stuff. And I found where they 288 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: put them to walking walking here to the studio today, 289 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: not a couple. Yeah, you'll find anything New York. And and 290 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: and so I kind of think of the same way 291 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: and the firearms kind of shot show gun range industry. 292 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of good, but there's a lot of 293 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: like negative stuff. So if we can strip out all 294 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,840 Speaker 1: the positive stuff and make it fun, and you know, 295 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 1: even like mixing like rock, country hip hop, being able 296 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: to like have this kind of special ops experiential weekend, 297 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: I think it would be really cool. And and it's 298 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: something that I know our community is especially the guys 299 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: are into shot Show and it's an industry insider event. 300 00:15:55,640 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: It's hard to get into. Plus you gotta like you 301 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 1: and I've been there enough times. It's you gotta deal 302 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of bs, you know, a lot of attitude, 303 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: attitude ego, oh man. Yeah, I ask somebody about a 304 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: sniper system and they just look at me like I'm 305 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 1: some idiot kid off the street, and like, come on, dude, 306 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: ye be able to create an environment that's that leaves 307 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: all that behind and just focuses on like the positive. 308 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: So I'm excited about that. Yeah, for sure, I think 309 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: that would be really important too. And you know, you 310 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: do the community just right to and have the right people, 311 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: the right instructor, is the right cadre. It's like you said, accessible, 312 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 1: you know, exclusive but accessible. At the same time, we 313 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: had i mean this weekend we had two SF guys 314 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: combat vets you myself from the Seal Community, Phil Campion 315 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: from the SSAS. Phil gave like a team debrief on 316 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: that operation in Africa. You know. I mean it's like 317 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff, you know, we wanna want 318 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: to create this community in this experience for for the 319 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 1: community that we have in our tribe. But anyway, I 320 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:58,480 Speaker 1: want to talk about shifting gears to the book you've had, 321 00:16:58,560 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: Raising Man. We did with you and it's un really well, 322 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're literally Eric and I today we're at St. 323 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: Martin's Press. We had lunch with with Mark, my friend 324 00:17:07,119 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: who's an editor over there. Mark and I have known 325 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 1: each other for since two thousand and eleven. We're talking about, 326 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, what we can do with Eric for his 327 00:17:15,119 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: next book, but also you know, trying to see if 328 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: there's a way to kind of bring you into the 329 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: into the fold on the digital side too. But talking 330 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: a little bit about Raising men Um. I know we 331 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: had you on the show before, but it would be 332 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: good for the listeners to kind of get a refresh 333 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 1: on what that book is about and kind of like 334 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the future. So when I was in 335 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: the seal teams, even rene reconnaissance, the whole time in 336 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: the military, I was I was a parent, I was 337 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: a father. There was a moment in time where because 338 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,879 Speaker 1: of my training, because of the equipment I had, I 339 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: was able to do different things with my kids. Way back, 340 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,679 Speaker 1: there's a story I was at a I don't know 341 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: what Its like a like a car not at a carnival, 342 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: but like an outdoor event. There is a of American 343 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 1: They're explaining how they made ropes out of weed or 344 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,639 Speaker 1: something like something like that, and I was like, and 345 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: he's like, this is what Special Forces used. And I 346 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,879 Speaker 1: looked down at him, like, oh, yeah, I remember that. 347 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: That is something they teach in Special Forces training. And 348 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: that's what I started doing those quote unquote seal pupp 349 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 1: events with my kids, Like, hey, instead of doing like 350 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: the normal boy scout stuff, why don't I tie their 351 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,440 Speaker 1: hands and feet together and throw them in the pool 352 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: and teach them drowning proofing. Why don't I take them 353 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: out of the ocean instead of just swimming around, show 354 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 1: them how to put graments in their fins and do 355 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: like a beach recon or whatever, you know, things like that. 356 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: And it was just that that kind of a fun 357 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: idea to do with my own kids. And it's just 358 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,199 Speaker 1: really I really started to connect all the principles of 359 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 1: performance and all the things we did in the seal 360 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: teams and how to apply them into life. So Raising 361 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: Men was the first major launch of me writing and 362 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: talking about how we can take kind of the secrets 363 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: of performance that we either discovered or developed as sniper 364 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,240 Speaker 1: instructors and apply them to our own life. In that case, 365 00:18:55,280 --> 00:18:58,000 Speaker 1: it was raising my son and my daughters. Of course, 366 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,320 Speaker 1: is that you know about being a parent, and then 367 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 1: from there that's I've been NonStop doing that inside of 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: corporations and for individuals since then. You know, one of 369 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: the things we learned. You know, Mark is one of 370 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: the most talented editors I know. Unfortunately, publishing is still 371 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 1: I mean it's been I've seen the changes and publishing, 372 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: drastic changes in audio books, e books, like the digital sales, 373 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,479 Speaker 1: but publishing is still in this very slow cycle, right 374 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: because if you and I sold a book today, even 375 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: two years later, the book is coming out, right, So 376 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,239 Speaker 1: it's that long of a lag in the market. But 377 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: you know, Mark was just talking about like really our 378 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: peer group, right we got out mid career. Me you know, 379 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,000 Speaker 1: I've talked about it many times, just kind of a 380 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 1: little bit of burnout, seeing no end in sight. And 381 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 1: I feel like you had similar similar thoughts, you know, 382 00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: just wanted to spend more time around with the family. 383 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 1: But our peer group is now coming retiring and now 384 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: it's like the markets being flooded with all these you know, 385 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: special ops this special ops, that special Ops. Way to 386 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: eat your breakfast, special to go on vacation, you know, 387 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: Navy Seal Guide to freaking barbecue. You know, it's all 388 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: this crazy stuff. But and so you really do have 389 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: to you know, we had a headstart, right, but you 390 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: really do have to create carve out a niche for yourself, 391 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: you know, in this kind of especially you know, in publishing, 392 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,959 Speaker 1: because it's it's changed now, it's become way more competitive. 393 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: But yeah, I'm just I mean, I am thankful back 394 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: to the community piece that we do have, the community 395 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 1: we have, and we're able to have have guys like 396 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: you on the show and use this as a platform 397 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: for them to become more successful some more books. But 398 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: you know, and I feel like, look, I try and 399 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: comment on your on your social pages, which if you 400 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: want to follow Eric on Instagram, it's Eric Davis two 401 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: and five something like that. It's pretty close, so be 402 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: sure to follow Eric. But you know, there's a lot 403 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: of people out there looking for that kind of this 404 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: raising men book as a resource. I've even seen some 405 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: of your engagement where it's like the mom, you know, 406 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 1: the divorced mom that's raising a son, you know, or 407 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:11,159 Speaker 1: the single mom that doesn't have a father around like 408 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: that wants to raise a productive, respectful young man. And 409 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: and and I feel like your book is is kind 410 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 1: of like the good Dad in the pocket, right, like 411 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: you have all these um it's a resource. Yeah, it's been. 412 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: I really love seeing whether it's a mother or a 413 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: single mother. I didn't just didn't realize I'd have that 414 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 1: kind of audience. And I just recently had an exchange 415 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: on my Instagram actually where you know this wonderful mother. 416 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: She was reaching out to me and like, you know, 417 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm looking my boys don't have a regular father figure, 418 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: and you know, I'm looking to find a male role 419 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: model in their life. And I think that's great. But 420 00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: my response to her is like, well, I don't know 421 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: about that. What's important to you? What what kind of 422 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: kids do you want to have? You know what I mean? 423 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: How do you want to raise them? And basically a 424 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 1: long story, very very short. Is it came down to 425 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: just identifying like things like responsibility, courage, communication, you know, 426 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: what are the traits that you want to develop in 427 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: your sons? And I go, having a male role model 428 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,880 Speaker 1: in their life, maybe a strategy to do that, but like, 429 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: what is your ultimate objective? And I think that's where 430 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,159 Speaker 1: a lot of the female readers are coming from, is 431 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: there's a gap in masculinity. There's a gap across the board. 432 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: And you know, we've all we've all suffered a big 433 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,959 Speaker 1: change in the world we live in, so our fathers 434 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 1: and grandfathers like kind of the way they did it, 435 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 1: it doesn't really work so well anymore. So it's been 436 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,440 Speaker 1: just I love I love these female readers. How they're 437 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: just taking this stuff and apply And that's what we 438 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: learned from market it too. It's just like a surprising 439 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 1: amount of female readers. It's like, I think they might 440 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 1: be taking over the world here real soon. Yeah, I 441 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 1: hope so. So I won't put you, I won't put 442 00:22:50,440 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: you on the spot on the Guam story, But are 443 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: there any other like funny, like maybe you share like 444 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: one of your funniest memories with the listeners from the military. 445 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 1: Oh man, held on, let's hit another. I'll think about that. 446 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: Let's let's do different, let's do a topic in between. 447 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: Let me just give that some thought. I just got 448 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:08,160 Speaker 1: to make sure I don't incriminate anybody yea, so think 449 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: about that. Look, you're very candid about the fact that 450 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: you showed up the seal training the first time, young, 451 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,040 Speaker 1: not in the right headspace and dropped and then came 452 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: back and made it in my class to fifteen. But 453 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,920 Speaker 1: do you want to maybe talk about kind of your 454 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: you're one of your most challenging experiences in Bud's training. Sure, 455 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 1: and let me just kind of pick up, you know, 456 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: with the having been to seal training and quit. And 457 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 1: I think that we have a video out on YouTube 458 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: that we last time I was in New York. We 459 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:39,720 Speaker 1: recorded that thing and I talked about a little bit, 460 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: but it goes along the lines when I was talking 461 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: about masculinity and manhood. So I wanted to steal train. 462 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 1: I already had two kids, and I've already been the 463 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: Navy for six years, already been a Marine reconnaissance medic, 464 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 1: been through their school, so I had a good taste 465 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 1: of it all, and you know, it just kind of 466 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: got in my head to go to go to the 467 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: conventional route, you know, do what everybody else did, Like, Okay, 468 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,439 Speaker 1: I'm supposed to now get a job by a house 469 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: and be home every day. Um, And I tried that 470 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: you know, that really hit me when I first got there, 471 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: and so I quit seal training and got out of 472 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 1: the Navy. Almost as soon as I did, I just 473 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,640 Speaker 1: felt the pangs of regret hitting me. I realized, like, man, 474 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: the first thing I'm going to demonstrate to my kids 475 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: is how to give up on a dream. So I 476 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,199 Speaker 1: immediately turned around, re enlisted, came in and through the reserves, 477 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: and went back to seal training like you said, and 478 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: I made it. But I think that's and I'm going 479 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: to take this a little bit of a different direction. 480 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: But when we were going to cover us on the 481 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: reserve entry, which I'm pretty sure I'm the only reservist 482 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: who have ever gone to seal training as a reservist 483 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 1: and make it, there was one other guy. I can't 484 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: somebody would have to fact check this, but yes, if 485 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: I would have not made it, I would have just 486 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: been able to leave the Navy. So it's crazy, but 487 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, I work with a lot of men, usually 488 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: in their late thirties early forties, where they've realized that 489 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: they're walking down a path or have been traveling down 490 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: a path that's really not who they are at their core. 491 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: They're not living out like their breed, like what they're 492 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: born in bread for. And I see that causing so 493 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:04,280 Speaker 1: so many troubles, and I think that's you know, stories 494 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: like that. I think that's why that's resonated so well 495 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: with someone. So, you know, that was one of the 496 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: tougher times obviously to quit and get especially with little 497 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: color vision problems. So remember I remember, you know, Eric 498 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: and I were at Sniper's Advanced Sniper training and Sniper 499 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 1: So you were just like fed up, right, You're like, 500 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: I'm out of here the Navy. You're basically fun the Navy. 501 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: I've done my time. You're just on one of those 502 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 1: one of those kicks, right, you know, I've got this 503 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 1: plan my might dive physical you know every five years 504 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: if you go through a really in depth physical um 505 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: which does involve a rubber glove unfortunately. Yeah, and I 506 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: got two fingers up there, you know. And you're like, 507 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to just admit that I I faked the 508 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: color blind tests and they're gonna kick me out like 509 00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: it's an automatic out the doctor. What what did he 510 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,960 Speaker 1: say to you? But I just remember you coming back 511 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: extremely frustrated. Let me yeah, like, well, let's just test you, 512 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm like all right, and I'm like 513 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: red green, white green, you only missed one. It's like, 514 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,920 Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me. Man, Like I went into 515 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199 Speaker 1: boot camp, you know what I mean. I told my 516 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: recruiter I couldn't pass a color vision test. MAPS said, 517 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: you can never be a seal. My recruiters like, hey, 518 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: don't worry about if you passed the physical test, they're 519 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,240 Speaker 1: gonna work with you. And I was the only guy 520 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: who passed the physical test. I like fourteen guys who tried. 521 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 1: And I walked into the medical center there that you know, 522 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: just start my die physical and they opened up my record. 523 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:39,880 Speaker 1: They're like they saw the fail and they're like you're 524 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 1: out of here, Like they did not work with me. 525 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: I was done, and like, yeah, but it happened twice. 526 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 1: I passed two color vision tests on my own. One 527 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 1: was when I came back into the reserves, and then 528 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: the second, which was maybe a little help Well, I 529 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 1: mean I had practiced it, I you know, I mean 530 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: I did everything, but no, the one of the reserves, 531 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: I legitimately, it just happened two times. Yeah, so I'm 532 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: a good guesser. That's hilarious, man. Yeah, but you know, 533 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: that's what it is. That's what becoming a seal is. 534 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 1: Nobody gets through unscathed, right, every every seal has it's 535 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: just too long, it's too hard. Every seal has some 536 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: story about multiple adversities that they had to overcome. And 537 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: I think, you know, and I think that's why we 538 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,879 Speaker 1: do have this community, because people know and can trust that. 539 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: That's one of the classes I gave. I go, you 540 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: know why our special forces? Why do we get the 541 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: attention and we get the The attention comes because we 542 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,719 Speaker 1: persevere like no other. So all of us have this story. 543 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,439 Speaker 1: And just like what you're talking about with your business, 544 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,640 Speaker 1: it's just like you, yeah, I could, okay, I could 545 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: have just sold out and been done and just lived comfortably, 546 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 1: but you're like, we just hold on and we take 547 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,920 Speaker 1: things through. Yeah. I mean, I mean, it's it's your point. Right. 548 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: Like my first package got denied. I had to do 549 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: a whole another Westpac deployment as a search and rescue swimmer, 550 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: and I was just like, man, well, how the hell 551 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: am I gonna get this? And the package itself is challenging. 552 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: You have to go get your physical and you got 553 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: to do it with this qualified seal you know guy 554 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 1: that can certify that you passed the entrance exam and 555 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,520 Speaker 1: you gotta get this package filled out. It was just 556 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,439 Speaker 1: like a big package. And the second time through, I 557 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: just handed to my admin and my p N. It's 558 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,399 Speaker 1: like the AM. I was like, hey, can you just 559 00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: like make another package for me and like change the 560 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: dates on this. I don't want to have to do 561 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 1: this all again. But I had to do it all 562 00:28:27,160 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: over again and and and submit it and my time. 563 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 1: And then it's like my detailer whose actual name is 564 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: dick Over and detailer in the military is the guy 565 00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: signs you your jobs, right, Like this guy was just like, 566 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: I guess a perfect fit by name for this detailer, 567 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: a w one dick Over. I was like, I'll never 568 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 1: forget it. And he did. He dicked me over on 569 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 1: my first package. I hope he never became a boy 570 00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: Scout leader, so then he you know, that happens to me. 571 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: And it was just a freaking mess. But and then 572 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: the guy that replaced me at the squadron quit but 573 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: he was on shore duty. He went and came back, 574 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 1: and so everyone's like, oh, good luck, right, you're gonna 575 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 1: be back here. You know, your seat is not even 576 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: a cool down. But I made it through because I 577 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: just like tried so hard and you know, it took 578 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: me almost four years too to get there, and when 579 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: I enlisted to be a seal, So, um, yeah, I think. 580 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: And the one thing I think that you know, it 581 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: makes us good seals and maybe not maybe not good 582 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: people because they're even I both know, Um, there's guys 583 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: we serve with that for sure, we'd want to go 584 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: to combat with, but you're not bringing them over to 585 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving dinner and you're sure is not hell hanging out 586 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: with him on the outside. I mean they probably be 587 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: in you know, running up prison cell block somewhere if 588 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: they had enjoined the seal teams. Judgment. The one thing 589 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I think we all have in commons. We all learn 590 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: how to deal with adversity at a very young age. 591 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: Like even even I know you you lost your dad, 592 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean he was alive, but essentially not in the 593 00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: picture at a very young age. I left home. I 594 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: got kicked out at sixteen. So it's like we all 595 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: have these like crazy stories of adversity and we kind 596 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 1: of learned how to deal with it already, and we 597 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: show up and the people that have not been through that. 598 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: They're fucked. You know, they're the first ones that are 599 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: that are dropping off like flies. And it's not a 600 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: physical thing, it's mental. Like the d one football players, 601 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: like kids that were always talented, you know, they show 602 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: up at steal train. Remember one of my buddies, just 603 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: big Rip football player. He was like always the star. 604 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: But the problem there is he never went through failure, 605 00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It came too easy. And 606 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: then you know most people that make it through seal train. Yeah, 607 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: we have this. We all have this history. Everyone's got 608 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: this backstory of all the bullshit that we've gone through, 609 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: and it's just they do all these tests, right, Oh 610 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,239 Speaker 1: what sports did you play? With this? I'm like, just 611 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: ask one question, what was your childhood like? And if 612 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,400 Speaker 1: it was a fun up childhood, let him in. Its 613 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: probably gonna make it. Oh yeah, yeah that's what you're 614 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: looking for. Yeah. Absolutely, there's gotta be something wrong in there, 615 00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 1: and someone who has some time on deck dealing with that. 616 00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure. Okay, so did that job any memories 617 00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: of the funny story? I mean, I feel like it's 618 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 1: story if you want just trying to mom story is 619 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 1: a good one. But we can even save that for 620 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:18,320 Speaker 1: I'll do the Guam story like as a video, or 621 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: we're going to do a Navy Seal team room because 622 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: people are asking for probably later this year. So I'm 623 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: trying to get you myself in Clint and maybe a fourth. 624 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe we could Finago Lively because he's oh my god, 625 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,000 Speaker 1: he put a camera up and he's like like a 626 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 1: moth to flame and he's good. He's really good. I 627 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: want to get us in New York, you know, my 628 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: friend's new bar Black Emperor in the East Village and 629 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: get us on another team room, Navy Seals going to 630 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,040 Speaker 1: the holidays. I mean, we got some stories, right, but 631 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: usually it's you know, involved some type of lady boy 632 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: and and unfortunately, well stories that you want to forget, 633 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: but they just they just burned in the in the memory, 634 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: like I get myself in this situation. Yeah, yeah, that's why. Yeah, 635 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: it's it's fun to be around the other guy because 636 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: the little job. I'm like, yeah, that's how it happens, right, 637 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: like you tell this story. Yeah, I mean I was 638 00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: sharing with Eric the other night, like my dad and 639 00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: I've always we've had a relationship. It's been a little 640 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: bit up and down and I love the guy. And 641 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: I did get to share like some pretty cool things 642 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: with my dad, which I'm grateful for. Like when Eric 643 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: and I were running the sniper program, you know, I'm 644 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: able to bring my dad too. I think we brought 645 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: him with the range with giving him like like this 646 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: cool experience. Yeah, Captain jab Yeah, we're like hammered out. 647 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: I got him hammered out. Lauren's like driving us back, 648 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, doing Jay turns in the government truck. Um. 649 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: There's like some cool stuff like that that you're able 650 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 1: to do. And I'm just like grateful. I was able 651 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: to to share that with my dad and it was 652 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,920 Speaker 1: actually cool. He even got to come on. I got 653 00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: him on the when I was to ployed on the 654 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: air craft care they do this Tiger cruise when you're 655 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: in Hawaii. You can invite a family member on and 656 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: they ride the boat one week back to San Diego, 657 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 1: and it was my dad get to fire machine guns 658 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: and see an air show and eat the crappy chow 659 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,440 Speaker 1: and after them, it's like great. I'm just like, man, 660 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: I'm tired of like, yeah, you know, you're like lifetime 661 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:23,640 Speaker 1: supply Tobasco sauces to ha to taste sauce anymore. Yeah, 662 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of my own like I've had, 663 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: you know, so many funny stories, just even like the 664 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 1: pranking that goes on, you know, which in some cases 665 00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:36,320 Speaker 1: it may not seem funny to people, but I mean 666 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: the new guys that still seen three. Right, we used to, 667 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: you know, they'd be on the quarter deck watch and 668 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: they have this p A system and they'd be like boom, 669 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, master chief song, So please come to the 670 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 1: dive locker, come to the airline. So you know, Lieutenant 671 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: Manter Jones, please your your presence as a question here. 672 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: And so we would call down and be like, hey, man, 673 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: can you I need this guy to show up to 674 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: the dive locker. And it's literally like the it's that 675 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: died and dive training a year ago, and poor guys 676 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: like a team wide announcement and the CEO is like 677 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: running down the remember that there was nothing at all 678 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: that there's nothing like paging this guy that died on 679 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: a dive mission training mission to the dive locker, right. 680 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: I think that's how he'd won it. You know, he's 681 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: been reading for sure. At least then I remember this, 682 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 1: U remember Dave. He ended up diving in Guam on 683 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: a parachute accident. Yah, Dave Smith was no, no, but 684 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 1: any this is a funny Dave's story. So Dave, Dave 685 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: gets in a car wreck in South America when he's 686 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 1: at Team four and basically it's guys have surgery and 687 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: he's got a Costumi bag, you know, and he's like 688 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 1: literally telling stories of like picking up these women at 689 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 1: the bar and he's like having sex with them in 690 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 1: the cols me bag. It's like, slap him in the ass, 691 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 1: right then, he said, because when he would essentially pass gas, 692 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 1: this bag would fill up right with methane and he 693 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: would walk through the Team four area and just crop 694 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:18,880 Speaker 1: dust that's sitting in the plastic too. That's got to 695 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: get special. Plus it's like no filtration, right yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 696 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: it's not going through the catch a thing. Yeah, and 697 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:35,280 Speaker 1: he would just like and clear out the entire team 698 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: are like people running out of the build building. But 699 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: it's just I mean the characters like him and others 700 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: that you've seen, Like, you know, you walk past the 701 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 1: dip tank where you're rinsing off your gear and there's 702 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: like a metal cruise box with bubbles coming out of it. 703 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,840 Speaker 1: You're like, what's going on here? Like, oh and so 704 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and so screwed up. We put him in the box 705 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 1: with a with a regulator and he's like trapped in 706 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: this box with you know, underwater, with the regulator device 707 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:07,239 Speaker 1: breathing in this It's like terrible stuff. But we'll get 708 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: I think we can fit in one funny story that joggony. Yeah, 709 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 1: the only thing I'm thinking about the third phase, But 710 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: how do I still don't know if it's funny thatough, 711 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,719 Speaker 1: But I'll just tell it because we got a little 712 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: bit more time. As we're you probably remember the swim 713 00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: is like we're all climbing down on a bunch of 714 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,000 Speaker 1: rocks and the waves were up that night, so the 715 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: waves were actually breaking on the very rocks we're supposed 716 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: to launch from. God, it's not a funny story. It's 717 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: just a story, I suppose. But I just remember just 718 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: all these guys, you know, Harry Chested almost Frogman third phase, 719 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,799 Speaker 1: and um, I don't know where you. I mean, I'm 720 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: sure you because I've known you in the water. You 721 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 1: wouldn't have hesitated at all. You probably just slipped in 722 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 1: at some point. But I was around a whole bunch 723 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: of guys that just did not did not know what 724 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: to do. Like they're just I mean, they're scared because 725 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 1: it's scary when the waves are and this is that night, 726 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: No I know exactly the night that was the night 727 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: we were held out. I think it was some type 728 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,000 Speaker 1: of bullshit OTB training or something. But we swam out 729 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: from those surf yeah, and gone on the rocks in 730 00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:02,200 Speaker 1: North Its Harbor, and then we just kept us out 731 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: there like three in the morning. Were really quick. Yeah, 732 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: we do know someone that tried to quit. That was hilarious. Yeah, 733 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,239 Speaker 1: just then it's just like all right, everybody up here, 734 00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:17,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like he got there first because he was 735 00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 1: already already quit. It was awesome. It's so funny. Yeah, anyway, 736 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, not a funny story. I just it's just 737 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,880 Speaker 1: a really memorable one, just because I've grown up around 738 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: the ocean and I just like looking around at all 739 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,440 Speaker 1: these guys, like, yeah, aren't we supposed to get in 740 00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: the water, and they're just like, we don't know, we 741 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: don't know what to do. And I just strapped my 742 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,280 Speaker 1: fins on in a big wave and I just jumped 743 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 1: as hard as I could and it was big enough 744 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: because I wasn't playing, so I dripped as hard as 745 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: I could, and I guess I just started kicking in 746 00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: the air. So by the time I, you know, I 747 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: got out in the water and then all of a sudden, 748 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: everyone is right behind me and there, dude, you just 749 00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,920 Speaker 1: look so freaking froggy. I was fired up and I 750 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,520 Speaker 1: got in So yeah, not super funny, but it's just 751 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: a memorable moment. I do have a funny story to 752 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: share because when I were and even in the same 753 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,800 Speaker 1: squad and third phase, I got too funny stories. Remember 754 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:09,839 Speaker 1: when Bulls we were briefing the f t X, and 755 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:14,919 Speaker 1: I forget the Bulls got rolled into our squad and 756 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,560 Speaker 1: somehow like we were getting punished, right, he was slow 757 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: on the hill runs and we're competing, so like we 758 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 1: inherited him and were we end up getting punished. So 759 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: as a way to get back, we did the f 760 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,879 Speaker 1: t X. We briefed on this one of the FTS 761 00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: final training exercises we did. Instructor Ryan said, Okay, guys, 762 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to get one of you guys to 763 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: volunteer to get taken hostage. Instructor Bryan, and so we're like, Okay, 764 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: who's it going to be? And then we're like, well, 765 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: let's let's pick bulls. So we had to like and 766 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: so we we hit the target. The other we got 767 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:52,359 Speaker 1: ambushed and he was the volunteer hostage. We had an 768 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: ide him like it was a role playing thing. So 769 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: he's like, okay, well, I guess we're like, hey, bulls, 770 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 1: you gotta wear this outfit. And he had no idea 771 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,799 Speaker 1: you was gonna get taken hostage. And so we're like 772 00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: back after the mission, drinking hot coffee and he's been 773 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:11,200 Speaker 1: taking hostair. Guys, what's happening? Wait a minute, why am I? 774 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,680 Speaker 1: Why am I getting And he's like going on this 775 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: over the beach op and then those guys weren't going 776 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:17,880 Speaker 1: to get done until like four in the morning, and 777 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,439 Speaker 1: we're just remember that, and then I do remember you 778 00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: being the medic and you're like hey guys, Like everyone's like, 779 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: when are we going to get to sleep? When are 780 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:29,359 Speaker 1: we gonna get to sleep? Right? And because we're like 781 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: like sleep deprived three hours of sleep for a month, 782 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: and I was like, like no way, thirty days out here, 783 00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,919 Speaker 1: demolitions like high card machine guns, grenades, like don't even 784 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: worry about it. We're gonna get there, gonna it's just unsafe. 785 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 1: They gotta let us sleep. And I was like at 786 00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 1: the end of like, dude, on that one motherfucker. I 787 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 1: remember that, like thirty days later, it's like, I guess, 788 00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna let us go to sleep. I don't, like, 789 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,239 Speaker 1: how do you do that? For a month, I was like, 790 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 1: what's going on? But I did, which I would rather 791 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: go through Hell Week twice than that four weeks at 792 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: the island. Dude, Hell Week was just just preparatory. Yeah, preparatory, 793 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: plus you get this shirt. I do remember, though, I 794 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: did say the whole that was my thing, and it's 795 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: like one of my mental management things. I'd be like, no, 796 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,840 Speaker 1: we're not even gonna pt when we get there, Like, oh, 797 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 1: I don't worry. Guys were probably not even getting in 798 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: the water. Like I just I operated as nothing was 799 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: going to happen. So I never was scared of what 800 00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: was to come because I just full mental management. But 801 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: one time instructor Ryan showed up drunk as a monkey 802 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: for MORNINGPT and just said get out of here. That 803 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:34,520 Speaker 1: was one. So I told that told that story for 804 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,319 Speaker 1: six seven months. Every first time. Back to the Hell 805 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: Week shirt reference, you get a you're in a white 806 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 1: shirt first phase, and when you pass Hell week, you 807 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,440 Speaker 1: get a brown shirt. And if you're running around the 808 00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,759 Speaker 1: compound on a brown shirt, everyone knows you pass Hell Week. 809 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,319 Speaker 1: So it's like a big status to finish off because 810 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,960 Speaker 1: I know we gotta wrap up. So, yeah, we're dead. 811 00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: I think the only night we get a decent like 812 00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:58,799 Speaker 1: four hours sleep, we just get rousted at like four 813 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: and it's like three four in the morning by all 814 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 1: the instructors would come back from that salty crab bar hammered, 815 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:09,040 Speaker 1: you know, like I wake up and like Bulls is 816 00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:13,279 Speaker 1: doing jumping, Jack's naked. They just got like yanked out 817 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:14,920 Speaker 1: of the rack and it was like ball sack and 818 00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 1: bung hole everywhere. Why are they stay? And yeah, you're right, 819 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, it's the grinder. 820 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,760 Speaker 1: So we're like this is a bad dream, like please 821 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,640 Speaker 1: make this go away. And so we we kind of 822 00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 1: after like the initial torture session in the barracks, we 823 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: get out there and we're just like we had a 824 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: five thirty in the morning PT scheduled anyway, and but 825 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 1: this is like three thirty and you know, and now 826 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,960 Speaker 1: we're getting dark beaten by a bunch of drunk, sadistic 827 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,720 Speaker 1: seal instructors. And Ryan is like an animal, physical animal, 828 00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 1: and he jumping jack himself off the big podium and 829 00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 1: fell hit the ground and we kind of all like, 830 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: we're like, what do we do now? We just kind 831 00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,760 Speaker 1: of like converge slowly. Time to go. He's like, alright, fellas, 832 00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm done training, you guys go back to sleep, And 833 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 1: we ended up getting to sleep in yeah, and just 834 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: go straight to chow because they were so so wreck that. Yeah. Man, 835 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: there's so much, so many funny stories like that. It 836 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,799 Speaker 1: is comedy. The whole thing is comedy. It is coming 837 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: like you could literally tell stories about training deployments and 838 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 1: it would just be like NonStop comedy. It's like funny 839 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,400 Speaker 1: because you because back to the cast of characters, you 840 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,520 Speaker 1: have the guys that used to be preachers, sons, just 841 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,680 Speaker 1: such a mix. It was all kind That's why I 842 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,239 Speaker 1: don't see a movie. I'm always bummed that, like you'll 843 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 1: see the seal instructor being all serious. I'm like, what, 844 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: that's the only time a movie bothers me about not 845 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 1: being real because they're missing I'm like, no, it's so funny. 846 00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: That's why again we're you know, my vision with the 847 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: business is to kind of become the Marvel of specials 848 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,439 Speaker 1: military contents because there's so much there that just isn't yeah, 849 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,560 Speaker 1: isn't being told so many there's so many people like 850 00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: out there like want to hear those stories. I want 851 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: to hear So if I miss him, it's so funny. 852 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: But hey, I hope you guys enjoyed this this episode again. 853 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:17,279 Speaker 1: Follow Eric Eric Davis two on five on Instagram, myself 854 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,080 Speaker 1: at Brandon T for Tyler Web at Brandon t Web 855 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 1: on Instagram. Follow Software Radio on Instagram. Check out the 856 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,840 Speaker 1: new site Software dot com. It's the completely um new 857 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: integrated site. 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But look forward to 877 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:37,200 Speaker 1: having that that guest in studio, some some other great stuff. 878 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:40,040 Speaker 1: Gary Busey actually called us up and wants to come on. 879 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: He's in New York this month, so dude, I gotta 880 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 1: be here for that point break. Dude, I love you 881 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,319 Speaker 1: point break, Yeah for sure, Yeah you talk, get me 882 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,640 Speaker 1: to talk all right. But yeah, it turns out he's 883 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,080 Speaker 1: a huge fantasyal community. So lots of cool stuff coming again. 884 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: Sending your emails to radio at soft up dot com. 885 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: I'm want to start taking some questions. 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