Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The
Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from
Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so,
Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Like it's
Speaker 1: what with a with an intro? This dumb? It's really like,
Speaker 1: we need to bring in our expert guest as soon
Speaker 1: as possible, because otherwise I might shrivel up and blow
Speaker 1: away in a cloud of dust. We're thrilled to be
Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by an academic and industry
Speaker 1: leader in fighting climate change. He's currently Director of the
Speaker 1: UNSW Earth and Sustainability Science Research Center and director of
Speaker 1: the UNSW CRONOS fourteen Carbon Cycle Facility. But much more impressibly,
Speaker 1: he's also a podcast. His show is called Unfucking the Future.
Speaker 1: He is called Chris turning.
Speaker 2: Joh Like, really, I'm not gonna sing no one needs
Speaker 2: to hear that, so I'll.
Speaker 1: Go to just I mean, yeah, you have people who
Speaker 1: do that for you on your show Unfucking Future. We
Speaker 1: were saying has some of some of the most catchy
Speaker 1: little interludes were on Fucking the Future. Blake, I thought
Speaker 1: you were gonna join me and harmonize with me.
Speaker 3: I was just sometimes you're in awe of what you're watching,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You just want to sit
Speaker 3: back and enjoy it yourself. You know, life's hard enough.
Speaker 3: Let me take some of these treats.
Speaker 1: Yes, I was also telling you guys before we started
Speaker 1: that I played that your podcast and like the word
Speaker 1: the word fuck multiple times for my eight year old
Speaker 1: by accident yesterday as I was kind of listening through
Speaker 1: getting ready to talk to you. And it was also
Speaker 1: the day that he happened to let me know that
Speaker 1: he knew the word fuck for the first time. We're
Speaker 1: doing We're doing a crossword puzzle and the clue was
Speaker 1: like what the blank and like softened version of some
Speaker 1: softened version would be heck. And he was like, so
Speaker 1: is that? He he sit in the back seat, I'm
Speaker 1: driving and we do crossword puzzle together. He's like, would
Speaker 1: it be fun? Fuck? Do you think it's fuck?
Speaker 4: Dad?
Speaker 1: Like you you're turning eight in a couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: like why do you?
Speaker 4: Why do you?
Speaker 1: But it's like it's cute because you didn't even think
Speaker 1: it was like a bad thing to ask. He was
Speaker 1: like that they talk about that sometimes at school. Fuck
Speaker 1: is it?
Speaker 4: Maybe?
Speaker 1: Fuck? So he didn't realize. Yeah, I.
Speaker 2: Astralia. It's the biggest complaint I've got. It's not the
Speaker 2: language on the show.
Speaker 1: It's really is. How is tomorrow? By the way, we
Speaker 1: haven't we we have tomorrow. I'm cold, Sidney.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just befull five o'ca Tuesday, and it's looking
Speaker 2: pretty good.
Speaker 1: We're still here.
Speaker 4: Good job.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I can't wait.
Speaker 3: I can't wait. It is like four a m. Free
Speaker 3: So thank you so much for joining us at such
Speaker 3: an odd time. We really appreciate it. No, no, no need.
Speaker 1: It's scary, so good.
Speaker 4: So good.
Speaker 1: And Chris, you could probably already feel the jockeying. So
Speaker 1: I'm just going to put it right out there. When
Speaker 1: we announced, when we told Blake we were going to
Speaker 1: have an expert guest on, he said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: take the lead on this one, and has just been
Speaker 1: sending me past aggressive text messages all morning saying stay
Speaker 1: out of my way. So just so you know there's
Speaker 1: going to be there's.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what's Australia like? These are hard questions.
Speaker 1: What's going on down there? Australia what's that?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: What's that like? That's probably one of the most questions
Speaker 1: I've ever had.
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for you hear that, Jack, That's
Speaker 3: why you should shut up, Jack and I should talk
Speaker 3: Your potty mouth child is fucking the future. That's what's happening.
Speaker 3: That's what this podcast should be called.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's such a polluter. He is He
Speaker 1: drives a hommer at a school every day. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: such a wonderful story. I feel my work. He is done.
Speaker 4: Actually, you have.
Speaker 1: Carmen Janie. We do like to ask our guests what
Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Fuck?
Speaker 5: I'm never ready for this. Carmen, go first.
Speaker 1: And also we've added that you can tell us something
Speaker 1: that you recently screencapped if you if you'd like.
Speaker 6: Oh, oh god, I got a whole fulder of screenshots.
Speaker 6: Love that. Well, I'm just looking through. I got a
Speaker 6: lot of weird shit in my fucking search history. But
Speaker 6: let's not talk about that. Let's talk about do you
Speaker 6: have to pay hospital bills? That's what I searched, and
Speaker 6: that will get into my uberrated and underrated because baby,
Speaker 6: guess what, I I had the hospital bills. So that's
Speaker 6: my search history.
Speaker 4: Do you have to pay hospital bills? Yeah? Yeah, I was.
Speaker 7: I was resally on an episode of Behind the Bacheters
Speaker 7: where Robert was talking about that, and I was like
Speaker 7: what He's like, He's like, what are they going to
Speaker 7: do to garnish you?
Speaker 4: Like, they can't garnish your wages.
Speaker 6: They're not going to read because that's my puss. You
Speaker 6: come on, this is a repo the Genetic Opera.
Speaker 4: Babe. Oh yeah, shout out Paris Hilton.
Speaker 6: Yeah, her best role.
Speaker 1: Her best role her wasn't that her debut too?
Speaker 4: It was like in terms of like, yeah, she.
Speaker 5: Was on the House of Wax.
Speaker 6: Also, oh yeah, yeah, the Paris Die House of Wax.
Speaker 4: You die?
Speaker 5: She gets owned?
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, what's your search history, Jinny? I got it.
Speaker 5: I've got a few. They're not as crazy. How to
Speaker 5: get a money order? The zen pouch rewards a bunch
Speaker 5: of like.
Speaker 7: Zin pouch rewards, you don't know, jacket.
Speaker 5: So I quit vaping a while ago, and I'm on,
Speaker 5: I'm on the zen pouches.
Speaker 1: Of course, we've heard about them from our favorite spokesperson, Carlson.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Tucker is a big Yeah, you know, say
Speaker 5: what you want about the guy. He's he's scotten good
Speaker 5: taste and oral nicotine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but nicotine makes you smarter, it makes you healthier.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, we talked about this, I think like
Speaker 5: the first time you had us on, we talked about
Speaker 5: the Tucker Carlson.
Speaker 4: Yeah that's right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, liking saying like weed, lazy and day. But
Speaker 5: nicotine makes you a genius, gay in your skin yellow?
Speaker 5: Yeah but okay, No, this honestly should help out anyone. Well,
Speaker 5: if you're if you're using Zen's out there, if you're
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Speaker 5: there's a little QR code on the back that if
Speaker 5: you scan you, dude, you can get some cool ass
Speaker 5: shit you can get like a I'm saving up to
Speaker 5: get a tragger grill.
Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding, is it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like like.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, right, no.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the like rewards because they like
Speaker 5: legitimately have a lot of cool ass shit, Like there's
Speaker 5: like a grill, there's like a fucking you can get
Speaker 5: like a drone, Like, oh shit, no, it's dope, dude,
Speaker 5: I've got I'm at seven hundred and thirty five.
Speaker 6: Wow, how many do for the grill a lot.
Speaker 5: Okay, there's a Blackstone grill you can get for eighty
Speaker 5: four hundred eighty four hundred and forty, so I'm like
Speaker 5: almost like an eleventh of the way there.
Speaker 7: Oh man, all this ship is there's like it's like
Speaker 7: a it's gate car, you know, age gated for to
Speaker 7: even look at the rewards, I guess as it should.
Speaker 1: Miles is under eighteen.
Speaker 5: Army knife.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not branded. None of this stuff is
Speaker 6: like Swack branded.
Speaker 5: No, that would be cool. They do have these cool
Speaker 5: they're like they're like the Zen canisters, but they're made
Speaker 5: of metal and I've honestly been thinking about cashing in
Speaker 5: for that because they're cheap and I could use them
Speaker 5: to keep my ear plugs.
Speaker 4: On when I play. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 5: Look they got go pros and ship damn the fucking around.
Speaker 4: They want you, they want you chewing these ships.
Speaker 5: They know their audience to they know their audience so
Speaker 5: well then chewing tobacco either, you know what I mean, like.
Speaker 8: Pickleball, starter set grill, so they know your new healthier lifestyle.
Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah. By the way, sorry, I was absent
Speaker 8: for a couple of minutes. I had to watch Paris
Speaker 8: Hilton get killed in House of Wax. It is a
Speaker 8: great death seat. Everybody should go watch it.
Speaker 9: Cool.
Speaker 1: I want a spoiling.
Speaker 5: No, I'm not endorsing a Nicotine edition addiction. I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: like we I mean, if yeah, I will endorse smoker.
Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Well, since I have you here, I will
Speaker 5: stay nicotine the rest of my life if it means
Speaker 5: I can get a badass offset smoker in my backyard.
Speaker 1: Wait, but waiting for the medical research to come in
Speaker 1: to tell me whether like zin's are safe, and if
Speaker 1: they are, I'm going right back baby.
Speaker 6: Doctors number one choice.
Speaker 4: Wait, but Janie, what do you do once you get
Speaker 4: the tragger?
Speaker 5: I'm gonna fucking smoke with dude. What are you talking about?
Speaker 4: You know I'm saying, but then does it end?
Speaker 7: I'm saying like you said, You're like, oh, if the
Speaker 7: Nicotine edition gets me a trigger, then but then once
Speaker 7: you get the trigger.
Speaker 5: I guess I'll save up for some more catching applying,
Speaker 5: maybe an another trigger, a sister, for a start up
Speaker 5: like you like smoking the Smokehouse.
Speaker 1: All that's done, all that's happened is that you've proved
Speaker 1: that nicotine addiction can be profitable, like that's that's.
Speaker 4: Real, real.
Speaker 5: Well, Philip Morris proves that as well.
Speaker 6: But we can prove you call your barbecue place Janey
Speaker 6: Dangers Gally meat. All right, come and get it.
Speaker 1: What's something you think is under in Francesca the.
Speaker 10: New Shakira album. I don't know anyone's had a chance
Speaker 10: to hear it. I love it Las Mozo Joran and
Speaker 10: it's not in There's no English songs, so it's great.
Speaker 10: I do not like Shakira singing in English. There's very
Speaker 10: limited Yallo, there's.
Speaker 4: But is there that the trademark throat, you know, sort
Speaker 4: of Shakira that's how.
Speaker 10: She sings, but isn't there's not a lot of like
Speaker 10: lean into the yallow apparently now she's like a little
Speaker 10: embarrassed about it. But it's really good. There's there's some
Speaker 10: tracks that are like a little too heavy Riggaeton two
Speaker 10: Carol G.
Speaker 11: I like Carol G. But I'm like, I don't need
Speaker 11: your care to be Carol G.
Speaker 8: Right.
Speaker 10: But then I love like some of the tracks that
Speaker 10: are just classic pop like Latino pop, pop rock, Latino
Speaker 10: or pop whatever the hell you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good.
Speaker 11: It's a really really good album.
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I like it. What's that? What was it?
Speaker 4: The album mean was like women who don't cry, women
Speaker 4: no longer cry, Women no longer cry.
Speaker 10: And the song with Carol g is called TQG, which
Speaker 10: means and in the world, like if you're saying that
Speaker 10: to a man like the Gaelo Grande, it means like,
Speaker 10: I'm too big for you, you know, just like as
Speaker 10: a person as of this relationship, like you've got a ceiling,
Speaker 10: I'm bigger than you, but also probably my vagina.
Speaker 1: Is you giant.
Speaker 6: It's I'm too.
Speaker 4: Big for you.
Speaker 10: But I love that, like, and so to say that
Speaker 10: to Pik, which is all a little bit shade on Pique,
Speaker 10: which we all knew that p K was like not
Speaker 10: first of all, not that hot and like really Shakira
Speaker 10: Pique that long anyway, I.
Speaker 7: Mean that's the time, you know, because Barcelona was doing
Speaker 7: so Yeah he's a Spanish defender, but yeah, like at
Speaker 7: the time, because barcel it's like at the heyday of
Speaker 7: Barcelona doing so well, it.
Speaker 4: Was like damn, he was like no, he can't lose.
Speaker 7: And then you heard all those stories about how like
Speaker 7: his dad was like kicking them out of the house
Speaker 7: and ship like when they were starting to separate, You're like, yo, this.
Speaker 1: They were like trying to make me out in the
Speaker 1: basement and the dad was like, get out of here.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 7: It was like, oh, you want to divorce my son,
Speaker 7: get you and my grandkids.
Speaker 4: Fucking beat it.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, sir.
Speaker 5: H yeah.
Speaker 10: Tempo sinverte, Tempo sing verte. Look that up, listen to it.
Speaker 1: It's good.
Speaker 4: It's really good. Okay.
Speaker 1: I like time without green, of course, you know, and
Speaker 1: I always.
Speaker 4: Say that time agree.
Speaker 1: Ye, I'm probably mispronouncing that.
Speaker 10: I do look not metady, not seen Verde, would see
Speaker 10: day without seeing day.
Speaker 4: Okay, time without.
Speaker 1: Seeing you, and time without seeing you is also without
Speaker 1: seeing something. I say, all the team, all the team, Katie.
Speaker 4: What's something you think is overrated?
Speaker 11: Overrated?
Speaker 12: I think giving friends advice? I think it's the worst idea.
Speaker 12: We should stop doing it.
Speaker 7: Okay, give me, give me an example. Put me in
Speaker 7: the situation where I'm fully embracing this.
Speaker 4: Take.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 12: So if somebody is like, you know, I'm seeing this
Speaker 12: guy and I just don't know what do you think
Speaker 12: I'm not dating that person. I don't know what They're like, intimately,
Speaker 12: I don't I don't fucking know. We don't have the
Speaker 12: same taste, right first off, wouldn't date a man anyway,
Speaker 12: So I can't really.
Speaker 4: Help you there for sure. Yeah, like we're friends.
Speaker 7: When you said I'm dating this guy with the I'll
Speaker 7: tell you right now.
Speaker 12: Like if we're friends, then we have the same probably
Speaker 12: like mental illness, Like we have the same.
Speaker 1: Co morbidities, emotional co morbidities.
Speaker 12: I'm not the person, and I'll probably not like the
Speaker 12: person you're dating anyway, so I might just be like
Speaker 12: not or maybe he's nice and has like good snacks
Speaker 12: and is really friendly, then I'll say, hang on to him.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been in situations like that.
Speaker 4: I agree.
Speaker 7: And now I'm like, now that you say it, I'm like,
Speaker 7: there are friends you have who have like the weirdest
Speaker 7: dating habits, and it does get to a point like
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's a fucking thing I can
Speaker 7: say to you that will help, because there are so
Speaker 7: many other ships that are like entangled in this that
Speaker 7: is not what do I do?
Speaker 13: Do?
Speaker 7: I like dump them? I'm like, I don't know if
Speaker 7: it's that's the actual solution. What's going on?
Speaker 3: Here just generally right, like, they're not the problem right
Speaker 3: right from my PERSPECTI if you are actually the problem.
Speaker 11: But I don't have someone you've seen every relationship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've for me, You're the common denominator here.
Speaker 4: So I don't know what else to say aside from
Speaker 4: like you do better. I don't know.
Speaker 14: It also is very unlikable to point out people's real flaws.
Speaker 4: It turns out like.
Speaker 11: It turns out yeah yeah, people don't like it.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah.
Speaker 7: It was like, well, it just feels like, you know,
Speaker 7: like you kind of don't like being single. You know,
Speaker 7: like the second year off one, you're onto the next,
Speaker 7: and I feel like it's really those spaces in between,
Speaker 7: as Dave Matthews says, that you could really just kind
Speaker 7: of find yourself and maybe make a better decision.
Speaker 4: Like you don't know everything about me, you don't know
Speaker 4: what's going on with me. I'm like, see this is
Speaker 4: what just let's just talk about this.
Speaker 12: Let's not talk right, right, Yeah, And those friends that
Speaker 12: come to you for every life decision, it's like I
Speaker 12: really truly don't know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can talk about it.
Speaker 11: I'll just help you decide where we're eating.
Speaker 1: Dinner right right exactly hides that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just like talk shit and watch tv KK.
Speaker 7: Every time you say we just should just get chicken bakes,
Speaker 7: every time can we say something else? And every time
Speaker 7: I ask you relationship advice, you always ask me if
Speaker 7: I've looked in the mirror recently.
Speaker 4: Wait, I just to go back a little tidy bit.
Speaker 14: I felt like I didn't want to say this because
Speaker 14: it would reveal too much about myself.
Speaker 4: But did you guys see that ship.
Speaker 14: On the internet where people were getting one costco dog
Speaker 14: a chicken bake. You bite off the top of the
Speaker 14: chicken bake like a cigar and then jam the hot dog.
Speaker 1: It's no, oh no oh.
Speaker 4: No, that is fucking wild. No. I mean, obviously I
Speaker 4: would eat it, but I feel like it was bad.
Speaker 7: That seems like that's a that's a Bridgetoo. We don't
Speaker 7: need to We don't need to mash it up, you
Speaker 7: know what I mean? Listen, I don't like glizzies in
Speaker 7: unexpected places is not something I'm really like.
Speaker 14: What about glizzies in a white cream and a hot
Speaker 14: season dressing?
Speaker 4: Mm?
Speaker 7: Wait now, actually, now that you say it like that, yeah, wait,
Speaker 7: but wouldn't it displace a ton of the filling.
Speaker 11: If you right, it's going to be a mess.
Speaker 7: You just got to loosen it up where oh my god,
Speaker 7: it seem like it made it seem like this was
Speaker 7: not That was not the hard part.
Speaker 4: The structural part is not the hard part.
Speaker 1: Don't get hung off on the on the engineering.
Speaker 4: Right, don't.
Speaker 1: But the filling displacement that is bound to occur.
Speaker 7: When do you when you you insert an object with
Speaker 7: that kind of problems?
Speaker 4: Bro?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you do with the butun?
Speaker 11: You just have a loose bun?
Speaker 7: Then you do just have a loose fun No, that's
Speaker 7: your napkin now, or maybe that's your like bacon. Yeah,
Speaker 7: it plops out the bottom into your bun and then
Speaker 7: you eat this is this is getting so gross. But
Speaker 7: do people like it or people saying like, dude, this
Speaker 7: is the bomb, like adding hot dog to chicken.
Speaker 14: Be I mean, I think the problem with especially I
Speaker 14: don't want to say the kids today, but with the
Speaker 14: kids today on their Internet and their apps, is you're
Speaker 14: you're so incentivized to be.
Speaker 4: Like this is amazing.
Speaker 14: Yeah, there's no way to know, like like you're not
Speaker 14: like you're not supposed to be out TikTok being like
Speaker 14: that's all right, I probably won't finish right right.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's because that's like, yeah, like like the I
Speaker 7: remember early on, like in the pandemic when people were
Speaker 7: like these like Midwestern nurses were trying like Indian food
Speaker 7: for the first time, and they're like.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, y'all like this.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is like chicken tico must must salad.
Speaker 4: I don't know, it's so good.
Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I've never had flavors like this.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: What about the did you see when people were drinking
Speaker 1: beer with a glizzy straw ew, Yeah.
Speaker 15: And people are like, don't knock it till you try it.
Speaker 15: I'm like, dude, I no, no, yeah, it's like fucking
Speaker 15: there's no planet. And then you don't want like a
Speaker 15: ice cold beer soaked fucking frank to eat at the end.
Speaker 15: Oh gosh, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: It's really.
Speaker 14: I mean, look, ninety percent of the like of the
Speaker 14: food content on this is me hot take the yeah
Speaker 14: is truly it's because people cannot fucking cook, and so
Speaker 14: all of the life hack industry is like every one
Speaker 14: of those gadgets. If you know how to use a knife,
Speaker 14: you would not need this thingmore r.
Speaker 1: Right, Like it's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so weird.
Speaker 14: And I do think genuinely it's because there's not like
Speaker 14: homec in high schools anymore.
Speaker 7: Well, I didn't even have homech in high school. I
Speaker 7: barely did. Did they have? Yeah, it was.
Speaker 4: Phased out by the other none.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, because it's because it's women's work.
Speaker 14: And and truly it was like I was like, oh,
Speaker 14: this is the only class.
Speaker 1: That taught me something useful in high school.
Speaker 7: Like you need to get in that wood shot man
Speaker 7: around the word.
Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna be making a lot of fucking benches
Speaker 14: in my life.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna be biting the end off a chicken bake
Speaker 7: and fucking tossing in a glizz All right, let's take
Speaker 7: a break and take an an acid tablet just from
Speaker 7: thinking about that, and we'll be right back after this.
Speaker 16: And we're back.
Speaker 1: So, Chris, you've been studying this for thirty years, kind
Speaker 1: of the meat of the period where it's gone from
Speaker 1: being a fringe subject on people's minds to a subject
Speaker 1: that's on people's minds and that everyone agrees should be
Speaker 1: like the biggest story it feels like, But how has
Speaker 1: like you talked about just like early days of climate
Speaker 1: in your career versus today, Like what about that contrast
Speaker 1: makes you hopeful or otherwise.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Now we've known for such a long time, you know,
Speaker 2: it's amazing. Back in the eighteen fifties, units Foot was
Speaker 2: American and she was a very early scientist area who
Speaker 2: basically discovered the greenhouse effecting and climate change.
Speaker 1: Didn't call the.
Speaker 2: Crisis or change at the time, but she realized actually
Speaker 2: pumping here to carbon darkxide in the atmosphere causes heating.
Speaker 2: So we've known about it since the eighteen fifties, and
Speaker 2: so by the time, you know, in the nineteen eighties
Speaker 2: or so, we're pretty clear, you know, of that use
Speaker 2: of dirty energy has created this heat trapping pollution and
Speaker 2: it's it's basically adding a blanket around the Earth and
Speaker 2: is causing irreversible heating. So we've known that since the eighties,
Speaker 2: and some companies, which fossil fuel companies like x On
Speaker 2: Mobile I actually had some of the best scientists working in
Speaker 2: it in the seventies and they knew back then.
Speaker 1: So it's been a bit of a frustration.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, you're sort of you're always
Speaker 2: trying to engage with people to say, look, this is
Speaker 2: what the science is showing us, and this is looking
Speaker 2: really bad, and what we going to do about it,
Speaker 2: and if we move quite quickly it would be.
Speaker 1: A relatively easier transition.
Speaker 2: But now we are here, we are in the twenty
Speaker 2: twenties having the same conversation. My kids are now older
Speaker 2: than when I was first active in this area, and
Speaker 2: where we're still trying to get carbon ducts and other
Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions down, you know, a pollution out of
Speaker 2: the air. So it's been frustrating, but at the same time,
Speaker 2: I think as a far greater engagement this last couple
Speaker 2: of years, particularly for those of us in the Norman
Speaker 2: hemisphere and the Western world are becoming even more aware
Speaker 2: of it. So I think there's a real energy and
Speaker 2: people want to do something. And that was really the
Speaker 2: motivation behind the show, to be honest, because as a
Speaker 2: climate scientists, most people, I mean I still get for
Speaker 2: crazy emails and I no doubt'll get a hoload more
Speaker 2: after this service call.
Speaker 1: But it was one of those things where.
Speaker 17: That's audience man, and we're sorrys nest here, and it's
Speaker 17: just one of the most things where most people will
Speaker 17: ask me, what can I do.
Speaker 2: I think that's the problem we've often had, is that
Speaker 2: here's a science. Now someone else go and sort it out.
Speaker 2: What we're trying to do as scientists is actually work
Speaker 2: with government, public, actually industry, business.
Speaker 1: Let's get this.
Speaker 2: These ideas deployed and they are happening. It is super
Speaker 2: super positive just how much we're seeing these technologies deploy
Speaker 2: more and more renewable energy sources.
Speaker 1: Around the world.
Speaker 2: It's not just in the West, so you know, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of good news out there, but it's also
Speaker 2: hearing for people what they can do individually.
Speaker 1: That's the idea we've talked before about on the show,
Speaker 1: about how something you just made reference to, like the
Speaker 1: excellent knowing about this, like doing some of the most
Speaker 1: advanced research into climate change decades before I think most
Speaker 1: people even knew it was the thing, Like they were
Speaker 1: lying about it before we even knew there wasn't it
Speaker 1: to lie about. And so I feel like it's such
Speaker 1: a clear villain like origin story. I just wonder, like
Speaker 1: how you think about Like one of the things I
Speaker 1: like about your podcast, like a lot of the a
Speaker 1: lot of the times when I'm hearing these stories, like
Speaker 1: hearing the x on mobile story, and you know, them
Speaker 1: discovering that there's a problem and then being like, so
Speaker 1: how do we how do we frame this from a
Speaker 1: marketing perspective? You know, we don't get names. We get
Speaker 1: big corporations, and then those are hard to like kind
Speaker 1: of grab on to. But there's a couple real villains
Speaker 1: on your podcast like Fred Singer. Ah, Yes, a piece
Speaker 1: of work. I will say thank you for saving.
Speaker 2: Yeah, for those amazingly completely outrageous characters who are out
Speaker 2: there pushing this miss information disinformation basically the creating confusion,
Speaker 2: and the whole thing has been I mean, this is
Speaker 2: a classic thing that you and you can see it
Speaker 2: on the whole lot of public debate. If you really
Speaker 2: want to just cause confusion, you just say things aren't
Speaker 2: really that certain?
Speaker 1: How threaded are you?
Speaker 4: You know?
Speaker 2: We know, we know that if you didn't have carbon
Speaker 2: ducks on the atmosphere and other green ass gases the planet,
Speaker 2: we go about, mind, that's fifty degrees and that.
Speaker 1: Chris, isn't it better than that?
Speaker 4: I think that sounds.
Speaker 1: Cold to me.
Speaker 4: It sounds a little chilly.
Speaker 2: A little bit is good, right, I think we all
Speaker 2: agree a little bits good. And the simple thing is
Speaker 2: you add more to the atmosphere, more pollution, ill warm
Speaker 2: things up, and then he thinks up. But when there's
Speaker 2: some of these characters like Fred Seeinger, this was back
Speaker 2: in the eighties, you know, creating these arguments for some
Speaker 2: of the best known scientists actually in the space and
Speaker 2: then actually working with them towards the end of their
Speaker 2: lives and basically casting down on their work just introduces
Speaker 2: that certainty with the public that oh, maybe even the
Speaker 2: experts aren't sure, just when you've got this real head
Speaker 2: of steam that actually they're going to make a difference.
Speaker 1: I mean, X on Mobil.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that I've been watching online
Speaker 2: at the moment is a great Adam McKay, the director.
Speaker 2: It's just incredibly funny, clever matt. Adam McKay did the
Speaker 2: Netflix movie Don't Look Up. He started a new sort
Speaker 2: of satirical comedy channel called Yellow Dots Studios, and with
Speaker 2: Rain Wilson, they've done this spoof on Game of Thrones
Speaker 2: called a Tale of Fire and Ice. And you know
Speaker 2: it's the scene where they drag out the undead in
Speaker 2: a box, you know, in front of all the main
Speaker 2: characters John Snow and all the others, and instead of
Speaker 2: the undead is Rain Wilson dressed up as a scientist,
Speaker 2: all chained up, and this fantastic thing about the House
Speaker 2: of X on mobile as being the enemy. And if
Speaker 2: people haven't watched it's on YouTube. It's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
Speaker 1: But is that. Yeah, there's some great villains in this story.
Speaker 2: And you know, when he's teaching about climate chain. One
Speaker 2: of the first things I used to show was actually
Speaker 2: shared the students of this report back from the seventies.
Speaker 2: There's lots of them been released since or being leaked,
Speaker 2: and it shows back in the seventies, some of the
Speaker 2: best scientists are pretty much on the money back in
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, and seeing students get so cross, so cross,
Speaker 2: and basically when I was born, they knew, they knew,
Speaker 2: and you it's outrageous, absolute outrageous. And they still to
Speaker 2: come around sort of claiming, oh, it's too expensive now,
Speaker 2: we need to stick with fossil fuel, that's the future. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just incredible. They's still being given their time. Some
Speaker 2: of these characters.
Speaker 1: Fred Singer, by the way, for listeners, we actually recently
Speaker 1: did a story about lunchables. The public health disaster that
Speaker 1: is Oscar Myers started as Oscar Myers, but it's like
Speaker 1: a craft food prepackaged lunch that was given to us
Speaker 1: by craft food once the tobacco industry took for the
Speaker 1: food industry, and like they were like, all right, one thing,
Speaker 1: we know how to get people addicted in a way
Speaker 1: that will make us money and kill them. Like that's
Speaker 1: and so I just bring it up here because fred
Speaker 1: Singer's background thing that prepared him to be like one
Speaker 1: of the fossil fuel industries, like go to people for
Speaker 1: so in confusion. His background was so in confusion about
Speaker 1: the health effects of smoking. Yeah, it's so wild that
Speaker 1: that was just this like original sin where all these
Speaker 1: professional liars were like watching each other being like, hey,
Speaker 1: we should draft that guy. Look at the talent on
Speaker 1: that ad campaign. I mean he has you know, he
Speaker 1: can shoot, he can dribble. Exactly. You just need people,
Speaker 1: yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: But like because you were taught, I was listening to
Speaker 3: your episode. I think it was the Blue Carbon episode.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, Chris, and it was if we're talking about
Speaker 3: like making this like a cinematic thing where we have
Speaker 3: the villains. The villains seem like very clearly defined, where
Speaker 3: it's almost like tragically sad and sweet that the the protagonists,
Speaker 3: the people, the heroes of the story can actually be
Speaker 3: from that environment, like the ocean or actually natural resources,
Speaker 3: which is the things that we're actively destroying are the
Speaker 3: things that can actually help us as well, which is
Speaker 3: so you know, like kind of sad but kind of
Speaker 3: sweet also. But yeah, I thought that was a really
Speaker 3: really interesting episode where I've always thought, oh, it's like
Speaker 3: we need to do this. We need like human beings
Speaker 3: need to reverse so many of our habits, which we do.
Speaker 3: And also we you know, your guest was saying, we
Speaker 3: can't do it without help from the environment. Also, that's
Speaker 3: the environment.
Speaker 2: That's that's the amazing San Juan who's in Conservation International,
Speaker 2: and yeah, the whole idea of blue carbon is, yeah,
Speaker 2: basically using the oceans and and he has this lovely
Speaker 2: quote he says, look, if I was king of the
Speaker 2: world for just one day, I protect the mangrove forests,
Speaker 2: which of these incredible trees that live on the coastal plains,
Speaker 2: and they pumped down so much carbon into out of
Speaker 2: the atmosphere into the ground there. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 2: multiple times more than tropical rainfall. These things are huge,
Speaker 2: and as you say, we go around clearing them and
Speaker 2: under the guys that you get a nice view. It's
Speaker 2: just I'm clear them for a whole load of problems
Speaker 2: results as a result.
Speaker 1: I'm a proponent personally of condos, condos with good views
Speaker 1: of mango. Yeah, I'm so. I mean, I guess you
Speaker 1: could convince me otherwise, but that's just where I'm at.
Speaker 1: We just put him in the mangroves, right, Yeah, how
Speaker 1: are we going to appreciate the mangroves if we don't
Speaker 1: have giant condos there? Thank you for the question, John,
Speaker 1: problem solved.
Speaker 2: I think a really important thing with with with something
Speaker 2: like as big and there's an enormous as climate crisis
Speaker 2: is you could go really dark, really quickly. You could
Speaker 2: go and there's a huge amount of challenges, massive But
Speaker 2: the problem is that if you just give that message
Speaker 2: of despair, nothing will happen. You know, we need to
Speaker 2: get people motivated, and there's a lot of great stuff,
Speaker 2: as you say, but it's happening. Putting aside to condos,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of really good things that are happening,
Speaker 2: So maybe we're talk about the.
Speaker 1: Good stuff that are happening in the world of condos.
Speaker 1: On another episode, you can go ahead with your contemporary housing.
Speaker 2: And you're gotta You're gonna get people hope and and
Speaker 2: actually showing which way we can actually make a big difference.
Speaker 1: And I think left that's motivating.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, your podcast does that, which I like, you know,
Speaker 3: it's yeah, another reason why I connect with it.
Speaker 1: Yes, you your podcast. Also, you know you have the
Speaker 1: Adam McKay episode about storytelling just again, and I think
Speaker 1: your instinct of like telling your students from day one
Speaker 1: like they have been lying to us all along, Like
Speaker 1: it does help when I hear the facts about okay,
Speaker 1: like here are the things you can do. You can
Speaker 1: like change your diet, you know which I'm joking, Like,
Speaker 1: I agree, there are things that we can all do
Speaker 1: to help. But at the same time, the vast, vast
Speaker 1: majority of this damage has been caused by these companies,
Speaker 1: like these villains. I feel like there's something kind of
Speaker 1: focusing and simplifying about that that I wish was a
Speaker 1: little bit more. I don't know, maybe Adam McKay is
Speaker 1: gonna make like the great film about just like the
Speaker 1: history of this. But I do feel like that we
Speaker 1: had it. We had the The Insider about the tobacco
Speaker 1: industry that was like an Academy Award winning film. I'm
Speaker 1: looking forward to the genre of movies to come about.
Speaker 1: They're like name names, like any podcast talks about. So
Speaker 1: I've probably said I don't know the phrase climate change
Speaker 1: a couple times at least since we started recording this episode.
Speaker 1: That phrase was invented by Republicans to downplay the problem
Speaker 1: of at like climate heating, like they change. They changed
Speaker 1: the word from global warming to climate change. Like Frank Luntz,
Speaker 1: whose name I recognized from being like a Republican polster,
Speaker 1: was that was like his brain child. He was like,
Speaker 1: what if we just we just say climate change. You know,
Speaker 1: we're acknowledging that it's changing. Okay, don't I can see
Speaker 1: you getting mad. We're saying we admit it's changing for
Speaker 1: better or worse. Who's to say, you know it's changing.
Speaker 1: That's enough, Like that's the first step. We've admitted that.
Speaker 1: And this is a negotiation, like is kind of the
Speaker 1: energy that it has and they fucking won. Like when
Speaker 1: you search New York Times dot com results for like
Speaker 1: global warming sixty six point six, Global heating like only
Speaker 1: one hundred. Total global warming is sixty six thousand, climate
Speaker 1: change is ninety seven thousand. It's like the phrase that won,
Speaker 1: and it's just what Republicans wanted to make it seem
Speaker 1: less scary when they were talking about it, and they again,
Speaker 1: it's just a I don't want to feel hopeless. At
Speaker 1: the same time, I do want to acknowledge that we
Speaker 1: are the victim of a vast, long term, and highly
Speaker 1: successful campaign to lie to us about something before we
Speaker 1: even knew there was something to be lied to about.
Speaker 1: That is like very sophisticated, and I don't know, it
Speaker 1: just like makes it. It's like clarifying to me that, like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: there's this. We're in a battle with a lot of
Speaker 1: different people who are putting a lot of different thought
Speaker 1: into it. We are slowly making progress in that battle
Speaker 1: in a bunch of ways that we'll soon talk about.
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to kind of hear your thoughts
Speaker 1: on that, because I was certainly a victim of calling
Speaker 1: it climate change. I think I think that's kind of
Speaker 1: what I referred to it as until your show told
Speaker 1: me I shouldn't.
Speaker 2: Be Oh that's beautify. I'll define to have you on
Speaker 2: the show next time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, you're look, I mean it's the broken clocks
Speaker 3: right twice a day, he's not Yah, his kids toss
Speaker 3: and left and right.
Speaker 9: Tough crowd, right right, Yeah, it's uh, it's one of
Speaker 9: those things where and change is good.
Speaker 1: Right, So the perception is, oh, oh it's change, okay.
Speaker 2: And actually that recognition that change isn't good in this case,
Speaker 2: and that actually a more there's a bigger issue. I mean,
Speaker 2: some people aren't comfortable with crisis. They're like calling it
Speaker 2: out of the same way people have talked about global boiling.
Speaker 2: But that's another level up again. But you know, trying
Speaker 2: to get rid of global warming to global heating, climate crisis,
Speaker 2: call it what it is. You know, we've got a major,
Speaker 2: major problem here, and it's now in our face. This
Speaker 2: isn't something that's going to happen in twenty plus years
Speaker 2: or whatever. Is happening now and we've got to really
Speaker 2: turn things around. And basically, all this procrastination and delaying
Speaker 2: is going to cost us dearly, not just economically but personally,
Speaker 2: and people are dying as a result. So it's an
Speaker 2: enormous challenge moving forward. But you know, misinformation, disinformation, that
Speaker 2: is a big problem we've got now and a huge challenge.
Speaker 2: All this stuff is out there and people start isolating themselves,
Speaker 2: and I think that's probably one of the bigger challenges
Speaker 2: moving forward really is that actually they get into their
Speaker 2: own world and they start thinking that, oh, they've got
Speaker 2: their world's view sorted, and they find these bits of
Speaker 2: information and basically say, oh, it's not a problem, and
Speaker 2: they just hone in off.
Speaker 1: That is comforting, right.
Speaker 2: Right, And I think one of the things where it
Speaker 2: started to see a lot more now is actually getting
Speaker 2: out there as a community, getting to know your neighbors,
Speaker 2: working with people, realizing you're not on your right And
Speaker 2: I mean, the show is very much about what you
Speaker 2: can do, and that's not just individually, if that's collectively.
Speaker 2: And actually there's an awful lot of people out there
Speaker 2: who really want to do things and actually make a change.
Speaker 2: But you are right, you know, at the same time,
Speaker 2: you're very aware that there's this a whole society is
Speaker 2: built around, and that's premise.
Speaker 5: Here.
Speaker 1: If you want fossil fuel.
Speaker 2: Here is his petrol, his gas, whatever you want coal,
Speaker 2: it's all there and there's nothing to see here because
Speaker 2: it's just one part of the mix and things have
Speaker 2: changed before and that's not true anymore. You know, everyone knows,
Speaker 2: you know, the consensuses. We've got to we've got to
Speaker 2: existential threat, to be honest, and now we've got to
Speaker 2: sow it down.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean one of what we'll get into
Speaker 1: the lawsuit in Montana, but one of the lead lawyers
Speaker 1: who you have on just kind of breaks it down
Speaker 1: in this way that was very clean for me. It
Speaker 1: was like, people don't need fossil fuels, like people need
Speaker 1: a way to heat their homes and get to work, which,
Speaker 1: like the the thing standing in our way is not
Speaker 1: our need for fossil fuels, it's the current structures of
Speaker 1: power and wealth creation that have been built up around
Speaker 1: fossil fuels kind of protecting themselves.
Speaker 3: It's the default, Like that's the defaults. I'm going to
Speaker 3: go get gas. It's kind of similar with the vegan
Speaker 3: conversation we were having earlier, where you have to say
Speaker 3: I need to go to a vegan restaurant or a
Speaker 3: restaurant with like not just a restaurant, because a restaurant
Speaker 3: that default of restaurants. Is that, Oh, it's going to
Speaker 3: be primarily like meat based, so that is really yeah,
Speaker 3: that's a really good point.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But all right, so let's take a break. We'll come back.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the solutions that you guys
Speaker 1: talk about in your show.
Speaker 4: We'll be right back and we'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Blake, and we will be right back.
Speaker 16: Yeah, and we're back.
Speaker 4: We're back.
Speaker 1: We're back. Holy shit, we're back.
Speaker 4: Where where was the.
Speaker 1: Seriously I slept through that whole break, Sorry, Miles, just kidding.
Speaker 1: Miles is micro napping for like three seconds in between
Speaker 1: every time I start talking, his head just goes down.
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, how was that Trump story for you?
Speaker 1: By the way, was that different talking about Trump?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did talk about Trump. Yeah yeah, that dude.
Speaker 5: So you disagree with the story about Trump like feeding
Speaker 5: like millions of homeless people and wells in Africa, I'm
Speaker 5: for that.
Speaker 4: I mean, yes, guy looks.
Speaker 1: Like a the orange one.
Speaker 4: All right.
Speaker 1: Let's talky about somebody. Somebody who's split like kind of
Speaker 1: shares complexion with Donald Trump, and that is Dog the
Speaker 1: bounty hunter and they're both hair. Yeah for sure?
Speaker 4: Is that a wig?
Speaker 1: They both could be. They both have hair that looks
Speaker 1: like it was designed to like launch a thousand Halloween wigs.
Speaker 4: Yeah yes, but yeah, very unseious person.
Speaker 7: Jesse Waters had Dwayne Dog Chapman on, so the racist
Speaker 7: with skin as soft as welder's gloves could promote his
Speaker 7: new book. And despite this being like a promo, stop,
Speaker 7: Waters fucking decided. He's like, you know what, man, I
Speaker 7: know you got a book. Let's let's just get into man,
Speaker 7: what about these motherfucking immigrants? And that led to an
Speaker 7: interesting exchange of ideas between the two. And by that,
Speaker 7: I mean I don't here's Dog the bounty hunter talking
Speaker 7: about immigration.
Speaker 6: Oh lord, hell yeah, go get get it together.
Speaker 4: You go.
Speaker 16: When you approach these people.
Speaker 13: Whether they're migrants or outlaws, Yes, sir, this.
Speaker 7: Is what we're going to when you approach these people,
Speaker 7: whether they're migrants, are just already we're starting off on
Speaker 7: the wrong same Dith. Yeah, you're going to be looking
Speaker 7: at Do you have any advice for Donald Trump if
Speaker 7: he assumes office again?
Speaker 5: Is he going to make you deportations?
Speaker 10: Are?
Speaker 13: I would like a job like that. And it doesn't
Speaker 13: matter who you are, what what nationality, what tribe you
Speaker 13: belong to. If you're a law breaker and you're in
Speaker 13: this country illegal and you were booted from another country
Speaker 13: because you were a felon and told to go to America,
Speaker 13: that's where we're going to start, is the high priority,
Speaker 13: the top of the eschalot, and they are going back
Speaker 13: and or they're going to jail. When I first started
Speaker 13: bounty hunting forty five years ago, there were two bounty hunters.
Speaker 13: Today there's sixty five hundred. You have theirs new laws.
Speaker 13: You can't be convicted of felony in the last ten years.
Speaker 13: We use non lethal weapons that'll drop a mule.
Speaker 4: Ready, what kind of read would you use?
Speaker 13: Well, the newest one they've got is the new pepper
Speaker 13: ball gun, and it's designed to spin. The body does
Speaker 13: not enter if you unless you I had to take
Speaker 13: a forty hour course. You cannot shoot above the neck
Speaker 13: or it would kill them. So pop pop, and they're down.
Speaker 17: That's it.
Speaker 13: What you want to do is put the person down,
Speaker 13: to cuff them and then go from there.
Speaker 5: Right, So, I, for one, don't think it's good to
Speaker 5: have a nation full of like little Kyle written houses,
Speaker 5: no running around like just fucking shooting like bean bags
Speaker 5: at like Mexican families and stuff.
Speaker 1: That will take their head off if you had them
Speaker 1: above that, if you.
Speaker 6: Don't have a forty hour training course.
Speaker 5: I also, I just got to say real quick, I
Speaker 5: have not thought about Dog the Bounty Hunter for a
Speaker 5: solid decade since Park episode.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, or since he got canceled screaming like about
Speaker 7: his son's black girlfriend.
Speaker 4: He was like, Oh, you really like using the N word,
Speaker 4: don't you.
Speaker 5: Dude, I don't even remember that. That's that's how his
Speaker 5: show got canceled because like this like voicemail leaked and
Speaker 5: they're like, oh boy, it's like come on, y'all didn't
Speaker 5: see this man's face. And they're like, oh, no, he
Speaker 5: don't use the N word. No. Not same for like Paladine,
Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, she probably is racist.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a few phrases that they had to be like,
Speaker 7: you know what, you actually can't say that, Paul, Yeah,
Speaker 7: it's not I know it may be a colloquialism to you,
Speaker 7: but we don't.
Speaker 4: We can't do that.
Speaker 7: But I like, I was like, you can't be a
Speaker 7: bounty hunter if you've committed a felony in the last
Speaker 7: ten years, Because this dude he was convicted of third
Speaker 7: degree murder in nineteen seventy six when he was Yeah,
Speaker 7: he was the.
Speaker 1: Get away bounty Hunting Too Hard Miles.
Speaker 7: Getaway driver during what he called a drug deal gone bad.
Speaker 7: But it sounds like a robbery gone bad.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm not gonna like fact check his like
Speaker 5: statements about like that there are sixty five hundred boundary hunters,
Speaker 5: but I'll be honest, I kind of believe it, Like
Speaker 5: I kind of believed that, like because of him, the
Speaker 5: like right wing in this country has become like so
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like I just have to say
Speaker 5: mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse again, Like it's all like people with
Speaker 5: like mentalities like that where they've been like so like
Speaker 5: programs like hate like so many other people and not
Speaker 5: really have even like a sort of like a materialistic
Speaker 5: reason why to right.
Speaker 4: But then you're doing it.
Speaker 7: You're doing it in service of like this oppressive system
Speaker 7: of bonding out of prison or out of jail and
Speaker 7: shit like that, Like you're reinforcing that debt to be
Speaker 7: Like guess what, one of these people will find you
Speaker 7: with a gun that's non lethal unless they shoot you
Speaker 7: in the neck and above, and then it will kill you.
Speaker 5: Also, I do think it's funny, Like I don't know,
Speaker 5: like imagine like one of these freaks, like because he
Speaker 5: says like, yeah, if you're like a murderer who's killed
Speaker 5: like forty seven times and you got kicked out of
Speaker 5: your country for killing so much, and then they're like
Speaker 5: are you talking like look like if we're talking about
Speaker 5: like like fucking cartel hitman, yeah, I probably don't want
Speaker 5: them walk in the streets either.
Speaker 11: But like, what the fuck are you?
Speaker 5: What is some fucking like tumbleweed from like Nebraska who
Speaker 5: like is like I'm gonna become a bounty hunter. He's
Speaker 5: gonna go up to like a cartel guy and they
Speaker 5: will torture him in a storage unit four years like
Speaker 5: he will. Yeah, you will instantly wake up in like
Speaker 5: the hostel room, like it's over.
Speaker 7: The other thing I always think about with him is
Speaker 7: like he always claims to be Native American, you know,
Speaker 7: like he wears feathers in his hair and shit like that.
Speaker 7: He said he could use the N word because I'm
Speaker 7: an Apache was what he said, And you're like, that's job.
Speaker 7: But like many especially in like the Native American community,
Speaker 7: pretty dubious about that fact. Because he's so consistent about
Speaker 7: what tribe he says he belongs to, and most people
Speaker 7: can't find anything that suggests that his mother, who he
Speaker 7: claims is Native American, isn't just a normal like every regular,
Speaker 7: regular white person, and some people who have supposedly looked
Speaker 7: into it's not really it's it's hard to say like
Speaker 7: this is these are the facts and truth, but they
Speaker 7: say maybe it happened because in her past she said
Speaker 7: she had spent time on a reservation and then just
Speaker 7: started difference.
Speaker 4: Yeah I'm Native American, I'm Native American.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard one of those like, uh yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm ten percent Cherokee like kind of white people.
Speaker 7: In a while, I thought that was dying out. So
Speaker 7: Elizabeth Warren made that tough for sure.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, sare you know right? But
Speaker 6: then he said now shares Armenian.
Speaker 7: Recently, he said, quote, I've always had a pretty distinguishable look.
Speaker 7: Hell makes me easy to identify in a lineup. And
Speaker 7: you're like what because you're what because you claim to
Speaker 7: be a third or half or whatever kind of background
Speaker 7: you're trying to anyway, so that man, uh yeah, he's
Speaker 7: hawking some kind of book and I think he's onto
Speaker 7: his seventh wife now, and he just I think in
Speaker 7: the last few years he found out he had a
Speaker 7: thirteenth child that he didn't know about. Oh my god,
Speaker 7: who was like a full grown adult by the time
Speaker 7: they met. So yeah, he's he's doing all right, he's
Speaker 7: doing and his oldest son, I think is in a
Speaker 7: jail for a hate crime, so the family is killing.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 1: He really does look like he's wearing a Doug Bounty
Speaker 1: Hunter like Halloween costume that's like out of the box,
Speaker 1: like it does, like not a very good one, you know.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, it's a hard it's a hard look to rock,
Speaker 7: like a leather shirt and like wearing wrap around sunglasses
Speaker 7: like all the time. I mean, I'll say he's done
Speaker 7: a good job of matching his extensions to his natural
Speaker 7: hair color because.
Speaker 4: Usually real brass.
Speaker 5: It's got that kind of like saggy both talks like looks.
Speaker 1: This was this was once all tight and improvable, all right.
Speaker 1: And finally Germany has passed a landmark trans rights law
Speaker 1: after legalizing weed. Earlier in the month, we got another
Speaker 1: w for Germany. Wow, I can't remember when. I mean,
Speaker 1: they're nailing it a plus No, but they did become
Speaker 1: the latest country to pass legislation making it easier for transgender, intersex,
Speaker 1: and non binary people to change their name and gender
Speaker 1: in official records. It's the so called self Determination law,
Speaker 1: and they'd been promising it since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 7: Yeah, because the process before this is like you needed
Speaker 7: like a pathology, like you need to go through a
Speaker 7: pathologizing process for for like an expert to figure out
Speaker 7: if it was like they're like, well, according to me,
Speaker 7: after I've asked them all kinds of weird questions, some
Speaker 7: completely irrelevant about asking about their childhoods or this or that,
Speaker 7: like they are approved to change their name or gender
Speaker 7: on like official government documents.
Speaker 1: So they've they've they've taken they've done away.
Speaker 4: With that which you know apparently has been going on
Speaker 4: for many many years. Four decades old.
Speaker 1: Yeah, four decades old was the law before this.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's still the way it is here
Speaker 6: in Georgia, right, you know, and in a lot of places.
Speaker 6: So I'm happy to see it changing across the world.
Speaker 6: But it sounds I mean it okay, obviously this is
Speaker 6: something that was promised in twenty twenty one, but is
Speaker 6: this do we think that this is like a pr
Speaker 6: spin for Germany and maybe again to kind of distract
Speaker 6: from their.
Speaker 5: Real I'm not willing to hand it to Germany for
Speaker 5: a while.
Speaker 16: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, I'm like, like the only news
Speaker 5: that I've seen out of Germany lately is them like
Speaker 5: just basically doing like this weird like neo form of
Speaker 5: like notification but like in the name of like Israel
Speaker 5: and I Germany is a very like weird, fucked up
Speaker 5: country that I do not fully like understand all of
Speaker 5: the uh. I don't know, I'm not like a history
Speaker 5: major or anything like that, but like it it is
Speaker 5: very strange. You can see it in a lot of
Speaker 5: their like cultural like stuff, Like there's a lot of
Speaker 5: like guilt and there's a lot of like I could
Speaker 5: definitely see them like just look, I mean there's a
Speaker 5: very you see this in America too, where like nothing
Speaker 5: like take like the Black Lives Matter like movement, like
Speaker 5: you know, like that was like a huge, huge thing
Speaker 5: and what really happened, you know, Uh, Cleveland is voiced
Speaker 5: by a black person now, like you know, like like
Speaker 5: the only things that get changed are like minor social
Speaker 5: things that you can move move the needle on a system.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like that's why, Like, I mean, it's true
Speaker 5: because there's also there was that thing too where for
Speaker 5: a while they were like in Germany racism doesn't exist.
Speaker 7: They're like, oh, yeah, can we see the data on that.
Speaker 7: They're like, oh, we don't have data on that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: well okay, so that I don't know if you can
Speaker 7: quite claim that. W But yeah, at the same time,
Speaker 7: right there was a prop house, there's a meeting of
Speaker 7: like the Palestinian Congress, and all these people were coming
Speaker 7: in activists and they were they were stopping people from
Speaker 7: entering the country, and then when the event happened, like
Speaker 7: the police came in and broke it up. So yeah,
Speaker 7: it's definitely like there there's a there's so many things.
Speaker 7: It's like the US too, where you can you can
Speaker 7: point to these sort of narrow kind of victories. But
Speaker 7: even with the Supreme Court yesterday, they also they also
Speaker 7: kept on the like basically said, yeah, Idaho is free
Speaker 7: to quote protect the children.
Speaker 4: Or whatever by banning gender affirming care for you.
Speaker 7: So it's you know, it's always like everything is kind
Speaker 7: of where we put the focus. But yeah, to your point, Janey,
Speaker 7: it's like, what the systemic stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they do the one for you, one for us,
Speaker 1: and the one for us is always like you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: not that significant and doesn't actually yeah yeah, just.
Speaker 6: Like oh well we put we have a rainbow flag
Speaker 6: in the Capitol building now or something.
Speaker 4: Right, but we're legally codifying discrimination.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can change your name for when we sign
Speaker 5: you up for the like Hunger games in America where
Speaker 5: you're where you're forced into the most dangerous game battle
Speaker 5: royale conscription rights. You can pick your own pronouns for that.
Speaker 1: Part of a deal with NBC. Yeah, just won't even
Speaker 1: be on TV. It'll be on Peacock.
Speaker 5: It's the new mister Beast video. We hunted people.
Speaker 1: The amount of times that like Twitter is just shoving
Speaker 1: that ship down my throat. Beast bullshit, mister Beast, bullshit,
Speaker 1: What is going on with this? It's like, uh, I've
Speaker 1: created a thousand wells in Africa, Yeah all the time.
Speaker 1: Like the one before that was like I locked a
Speaker 1: thousand people into a grocery store to see how long
Speaker 1: they could survive, and then the next one like maybe
Speaker 1: did he like get bad pr for that previous one.
Speaker 1: So it's like I made a thousand wells in Africa.
Speaker 5: He does. It's sort of what you just said, the
Speaker 5: one for you, one for me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 5: He does like little games and then he does ones
Speaker 5: that are just like like charitable.
Speaker 4: Right, He's like, I bought everybody in Walmart everything they wanted.
Speaker 5: Yeah, hot take here that you might not expect coming
Speaker 5: from me, but I don't. I kind of like mister
Speaker 5: I think he made. I think if you're going to
Speaker 5: be like, if you're going to be a rich person
Speaker 5: with like the GDP of like a small country in
Speaker 5: Central America, I think the least evil thing you can
Speaker 5: do is just make silly little games on YouTube and stuff.
Speaker 4: I don't know, like building well, yeah.
Speaker 5: The videos of like the one of like the I
Speaker 5: made a hundred different countries, like compete like stuff like that.
Speaker 5: It's fun. It's just fun little videos. I don't know,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like that's as far as like uber
Speaker 5: uber uber wealthy people go, like I think, if you're
Speaker 5: just making little games and like videos and stuff, you know,
Speaker 5: and it's kind of fun.
Speaker 14: And.
Speaker 6: They want to be mister Beast. They want to be
Speaker 6: somebody who like gives out like free Lasik, like free
Speaker 6: cochlear implants to they want to be it's kind of cute,
Speaker 6: you know.
Speaker 5: So they want to have their own they want to
Speaker 5: have their trans friend that they can you know, bury
Speaker 5: people alive with. Like that's what we all want, you know.
Speaker 1: I liked the one where he handcuffed that guy to
Speaker 1: a pipe and was like, if you want to leave,
Speaker 1: you have to saw your own arm off.
Speaker 10: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I just kind of but like, you know, there's a
Speaker 7: cynicism to it too, because it's like this of like
Speaker 7: philanthropy via click ast, you know where it's like.
Speaker 4: Is it coming from a good place too?
Speaker 7: But then I guess at the end of the day,
Speaker 7: if you're zooming out, well, no one's I've like was
Speaker 7: just doing a search.
Speaker 4: I'm like, did he actually build the wells?
Speaker 7: And I don't see anything saying that like that did
Speaker 7: not happen, so you know it's no.
Speaker 5: I totally agree. I think there was a big thing
Speaker 5: about the one with the where he got like blinds
Speaker 5: kids like bought them all like surgery to like like yeah,
Speaker 5: not restoring surgery something. Yeah. Look, I don't I don't know.
Speaker 5: I might be wrong on this, but I don't think
Speaker 5: the problem is like him doing that. I think that's fine.
Speaker 5: Like I agree about the Senate the cynical nature of it,
Speaker 5: but I think that the main kind of like takeaway
Speaker 5: is like there's a surgery that makes kids not blind,
Speaker 5: and you don't just give it to kids, Like it
Speaker 5: takes this fucking asshole with a YouTube channel to do it.
Speaker 5: That's fucking crazy.
Speaker 7: Like I think I do cringe though when I see
Speaker 7: those people go up to like street vendors and like
Speaker 7: they're just like, hey, I want to give you this money.
Speaker 7: And then they look the camera and they're like, hey,
Speaker 7: look at your boy.
Speaker 4: Did you know what I mean?
Speaker 18: Yeah, and so it yeah, because the video's over give
Speaker 18: it back Mania, Yeah yeah, no, right, because I mean
Speaker 18: like at the at the end of the day, you know,
Speaker 18: it's just like when you hear those quote unquote feel
Speaker 18: good stories about like how like a teacher was on
Speaker 18: a Southwest flight and the person they were sitting next
Speaker 18: to overheard that they were struggling to get materials for
Speaker 18: their class, so they anonymously donated whatever, and you're like,
Speaker 18: oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: It's like a field stories for systemic problems. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: story is.
Speaker 7: Actually about how little we're funding our public education or
Speaker 7: the story is about how little access to clean water
Speaker 7: people have, and it's like everyone's like yeah, so, but
Speaker 7: I get it too, Like, you know, I've seen some
Speaker 7: of the stunts that he's pulling. I'm like, oh shit, man,
Speaker 7: you can't do that with a regular YouTube channel, like
Speaker 7: you need you need real money.
Speaker 4: But I think that's what what's interesting too.
Speaker 7: All those videos I've read though, too, like are sort
Speaker 7: of built on the backs of all these brands deals
Speaker 7: that he does prior to him. Yeah, it's not a
Speaker 7: lot of times it might not be coming out of
Speaker 7: his pocket, but anyway, this is these are the complexities
Speaker 7: of our modern media.
Speaker 1: Mister Beast buried one hundred people brought to you by loads.
Speaker 6: To somebody needed to fill the space that Oprah left behind.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, remember that though you get a car thing
Speaker 7: and everyone was like yo, but the taxes they were
Speaker 7: on the hook for, they were.
Speaker 5: Yeah about like an evil Oprah where she's like everyone
Speaker 5: look under your seat and everyone like looks and there
Speaker 5: like ow and she's like you found a use needle.
Speaker 7: Email from the nineties about going to a movie theater
Speaker 7: and it's like welcome to Welcome to the world of
Speaker 7: bloodborne illness.
Speaker 6: Is the ball bound the ball pit. My grandma wouldnt
Speaker 6: let me go on the ball pit because the ball
Speaker 6: pit has put.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's so funny, Like yeah, what there's a thirty
Speaker 5: year old like heroin attic in the bullpen and everyone's like, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's normal, Like yeah.
Speaker 1: Look into your chair, that's your daughter, right, Oh she's
Speaker 1: safe for now. Damn Oprah, amazing, I want to Oprah. Yeah,
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