1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from 3 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so, 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Like it's 5 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 1: what with a with an intro? This dumb? It's really like, 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: we need to bring in our expert guest as soon 7 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: as possible, because otherwise I might shrivel up and blow 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: away in a cloud of dust. We're thrilled to be 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: joined in our third seat by an academic and industry 10 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: leader in fighting climate change. He's currently Director of the 11 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: UNSW Earth and Sustainability Science Research Center and director of 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: the UNSW CRONOS fourteen Carbon Cycle Facility. But much more impressibly, 13 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: he's also a podcast. His show is called Unfucking the Future. 14 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: He is called Chris turning. 15 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: Joh Like, really, I'm not gonna sing no one needs 16 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 2: to hear that, so I'll. 17 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,680 Speaker 1: Go to just I mean, yeah, you have people who 18 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: do that for you on your show Unfucking Future. We 19 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: were saying has some of some of the most catchy 20 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:27,759 Speaker 1: little interludes were on Fucking the Future. Blake, I thought 21 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: you were gonna join me and harmonize with me. 22 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 3: I was just sometimes you're in awe of what you're watching, 23 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You just want to sit 24 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 3: back and enjoy it yourself. You know, life's hard enough. 25 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Let me take some of these treats. 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: Yes, I was also telling you guys before we started 27 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 1: that I played that your podcast and like the word 28 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the word fuck multiple times for my eight year old 29 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: by accident yesterday as I was kind of listening through 30 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: getting ready to talk to you. And it was also 31 00:01:58,400 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the day that he happened to let me know that 32 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 1: he knew the word fuck for the first time. We're 33 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: doing We're doing a crossword puzzle and the clue was 34 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: like what the blank and like softened version of some 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 1: softened version would be heck. And he was like, so 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: is that? He he sit in the back seat, I'm 37 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 1: driving and we do crossword puzzle together. He's like, would 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: it be fun? Fuck? Do you think it's fuck? 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: Dad? 40 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 1: Like you you're turning eight in a couple of weeks, 41 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:28,679 Speaker 1: like why do you? 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 4: Why do you? 43 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:32,799 Speaker 1: But it's like it's cute because you didn't even think 44 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: it was like a bad thing to ask. He was 45 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: like that they talk about that sometimes at school. Fuck 46 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: is it? 47 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:38,600 Speaker 4: Maybe? 48 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: Fuck? So he didn't realize. Yeah, I. 49 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: Astralia. It's the biggest complaint I've got. It's not the 50 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: language on the show. 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: It's really is. How is tomorrow? By the way, we 52 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: haven't we we have tomorrow. I'm cold, Sidney. 53 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just befull five o'ca Tuesday, and it's looking 54 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 2: pretty good. 55 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 1: We're still here. 56 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 4: Good job. 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I can't wait. 58 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: I can't wait. It is like four a m. Free 59 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:14,840 Speaker 3: So thank you so much for joining us at such 60 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 3: an odd time. We really appreciate it. No, no, no need. 61 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: It's scary, so good. 62 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 4: So good. 63 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: And Chris, you could probably already feel the jockeying. So 64 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm just going to put it right out there. When 65 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: we announced, when we told Blake we were going to 66 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: have an expert guest on, he said, I'm going to 67 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: take the lead on this one, and has just been 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: sending me past aggressive text messages all morning saying stay 69 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: out of my way. So just so you know there's 70 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: going to be there's. 71 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what's Australia like? These are hard questions. 72 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: What's going on down there? Australia what's that? 73 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 74 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 1: What's that like? That's probably one of the most questions 75 00:03:59,400 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: I've ever had. 76 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: Thank you so much for you hear that, Jack, That's 77 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 3: why you should shut up, Jack and I should talk 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 3: Your potty mouth child is fucking the future. That's what's happening. 79 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 3: That's what this podcast should be called. 80 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's such a polluter. He is He 81 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: drives a hommer at a school every day. Yeah, he's 82 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: such a wonderful story. I feel my work. He is done. 83 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 4: Actually, you have. 84 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,880 Speaker 1: Carmen Janie. We do like to ask our guests what 85 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,799 Speaker 1: is something from your search history? Fuck? 86 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:35,839 Speaker 5: I'm never ready for this. Carmen, go first. 87 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:39,039 Speaker 1: And also we've added that you can tell us something 88 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: that you recently screencapped if you if you'd like. 89 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 6: Oh, oh god, I got a whole fulder of screenshots. 90 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 6: Love that. Well, I'm just looking through. I got a 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 6: lot of weird shit in my fucking search history. But 92 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 6: let's not talk about that. Let's talk about do you 93 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 6: have to pay hospital bills? That's what I searched, and 94 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 6: that will get into my uberrated and underrated because baby, 95 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:04,640 Speaker 6: guess what, I I had the hospital bills. So that's 96 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 6: my search history. 97 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 4: Do you have to pay hospital bills? Yeah? Yeah, I was. 98 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 7: I was resally on an episode of Behind the Bacheters 99 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 7: where Robert was talking about that, and I was like 100 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 7: what He's like, He's like, what are they going to 101 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 7: do to garnish you? 102 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 4: Like, they can't garnish your wages. 103 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 6: They're not going to read because that's my puss. You 104 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 6: come on, this is a repo the Genetic Opera. 105 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 4: Babe. Oh yeah, shout out Paris Hilton. 106 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, her best role. 107 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: Her best role her wasn't that her debut too? 108 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 4: It was like in terms of like, yeah, she. 109 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 5: Was on the House of Wax. 110 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 6: Also, oh yeah, yeah, the Paris Die House of Wax. 111 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: You die? 112 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 5: She gets owned? 113 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, what's your search history, Jinny? I got it. 114 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 5: I've got a few. They're not as crazy. How to 115 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 5: get a money order? The zen pouch rewards a bunch 116 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 5: of like. 117 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:07,320 Speaker 7: Zin pouch rewards, you don't know, jacket. 118 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 5: So I quit vaping a while ago, and I'm on, 119 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 5: I'm on the zen pouches. 120 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: Of course, we've heard about them from our favorite spokesperson, Carlson. 121 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Tucker is a big Yeah, you know, say 122 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 5: what you want about the guy. He's he's scotten good 123 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 5: taste and oral nicotine. 124 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but nicotine makes you smarter, it makes you healthier. 125 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 5: Oh my god, we talked about this, I think like 126 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 5: the first time you had us on, we talked about 127 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 5: the Tucker Carlson. 128 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 4: Yeah that's right. 129 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, liking saying like weed, lazy and day. But 130 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 5: nicotine makes you a genius, gay in your skin yellow? 131 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 5: Yeah but okay, No, this honestly should help out anyone. Well, 132 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 5: if you're if you're using Zen's out there, if you're 133 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 5: a daily site guys listener and you're using the Zen 134 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 5: there's a little QR code on the back that if 135 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 5: you scan you, dude, you can get some cool ass 136 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 5: shit you can get like a I'm saving up to 137 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 5: get a tragger grill. 138 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding, is it. 139 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like like. 140 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 4: No, no, no, right, no. 141 00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 5: I'm trying to find the like rewards because they like 142 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 5: legitimately have a lot of cool ass shit, Like there's 143 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: like a grill, there's like a fucking you can get 144 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 5: like a drone, Like, oh shit, no, it's dope, dude, 145 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: I've got I'm at seven hundred and thirty five. 146 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,119 Speaker 6: Wow, how many do for the grill a lot. 147 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 5: Okay, there's a Blackstone grill you can get for eighty 148 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 5: four hundred eighty four hundred and forty, so I'm like 149 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 5: almost like an eleventh of the way there. 150 00:07:51,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 7: Oh man, all this ship is there's like it's like 151 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 7: a it's gate car, you know, age gated for to 152 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 7: even look at the rewards, I guess as it should. 153 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: Miles is under eighteen. 154 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 5: Army knife. 155 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 6: Yeah, and it's not branded. None of this stuff is 156 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 6: like Swack branded. 157 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 5: No, that would be cool. They do have these cool 158 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 5: they're like they're like the Zen canisters, but they're made 159 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 5: of metal and I've honestly been thinking about cashing in 160 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 5: for that because they're cheap and I could use them 161 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: to keep my ear plugs. 162 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,480 Speaker 4: On when I play. Yeah, okay, yeah. 163 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 5: Look they got go pros and ship damn the fucking around. 164 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 4: They want you, they want you chewing these ships. 165 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 5: They know their audience to they know their audience so 166 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 5: well then chewing tobacco either, you know what I mean, like. 167 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 8: Pickleball, starter set grill, so they know your new healthier lifestyle. 168 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 8: Yeah yeah, yeah. By the way, sorry, I was absent 169 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 8: for a couple of minutes. I had to watch Paris 170 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 8: Hilton get killed in House of Wax. It is a 171 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,199 Speaker 8: great death seat. Everybody should go watch it. 172 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 9: Cool. 173 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: I want a spoiling. 174 00:09:02,120 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 5: No, I'm not endorsing a Nicotine edition addiction. I'm just saying, 175 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 5: like we I mean, if yeah, I will endorse smoker. 176 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, Well, since I have you here, I will 177 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 5: stay nicotine the rest of my life if it means 178 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 5: I can get a badass offset smoker in my backyard. 179 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 1: Wait, but waiting for the medical research to come in 180 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: to tell me whether like zin's are safe, and if 181 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: they are, I'm going right back baby. 182 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 6: Doctors number one choice. 183 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 4: Wait, but Janie, what do you do once you get 184 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:39,720 Speaker 4: the tragger? 185 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna fucking smoke with dude. What are you talking about? 186 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 4: You know I'm saying, but then does it end? 187 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 7: I'm saying like you said, You're like, oh, if the 188 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 7: Nicotine edition gets me a trigger, then but then once 189 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:51,600 Speaker 7: you get the trigger. 190 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 5: I guess I'll save up for some more catching applying, 191 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 5: maybe an another trigger, a sister, for a start up 192 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: like you like smoking the Smokehouse. 193 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: All that's done, all that's happened is that you've proved 194 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: that nicotine addiction can be profitable, like that's that's. 195 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 4: Real, real. 196 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 5: Well, Philip Morris proves that as well. 197 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:17,559 Speaker 6: But we can prove you call your barbecue place Janey 198 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 6: Dangers Gally meat. All right, come and get it. 199 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: What's something you think is under in Francesca the. 200 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 10: New Shakira album. I don't know anyone's had a chance 201 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 10: to hear it. I love it Las Mozo Joran and 202 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:42,319 Speaker 10: it's not in There's no English songs, so it's great. 203 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 10: I do not like Shakira singing in English. There's very 204 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 10: limited Yallo, there's. 205 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 4: But is there that the trademark throat, you know, sort 206 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 4: of Shakira that's how. 207 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 10: She sings, but isn't there's not a lot of like 208 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 10: lean into the yallow apparently now she's like a little 209 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 10: embarrassed about it. But it's really good. There's there's some 210 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 10: tracks that are like a little too heavy Riggaeton two 211 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 10: Carol G. 212 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 11: I like Carol G. But I'm like, I don't need 213 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 11: your care to be Carol G. 214 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 8: Right. 215 00:11:14,679 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 10: But then I love like some of the tracks that 216 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 10: are just classic pop like Latino pop, pop rock, Latino 217 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 10: or pop whatever the hell you know what I'm saying. 218 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so good. 219 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 11: It's a really really good album. 220 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I like it. What's that? What was it? 221 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 4: The album mean was like women who don't cry, women 222 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: no longer cry, Women no longer cry. 223 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 10: And the song with Carol g is called TQG, which 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 10: means and in the world, like if you're saying that 225 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 10: to a man like the Gaelo Grande, it means like, 226 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 10: I'm too big for you, you know, just like as 227 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 10: a person as of this relationship, like you've got a ceiling, 228 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 10: I'm bigger than you, but also probably my vagina. 229 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Is you giant. 230 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 6: It's I'm too. 231 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 4: Big for you. 232 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 10: But I love that, like, and so to say that 233 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 10: to Pik, which is all a little bit shade on Pique, 234 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 10: which we all knew that p K was like not 235 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 10: first of all, not that hot and like really Shakira 236 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 10: Pique that long anyway, I. 237 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 7: Mean that's the time, you know, because Barcelona was doing 238 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 7: so Yeah he's a Spanish defender, but yeah, like at 239 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 7: the time, because barcel it's like at the heyday of 240 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 7: Barcelona doing so well, it. 241 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 4: Was like damn, he was like no, he can't lose. 242 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 7: And then you heard all those stories about how like 243 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 7: his dad was like kicking them out of the house 244 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 7: and ship like when they were starting to separate, You're like, yo, this. 245 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: They were like trying to make me out in the 246 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: basement and the dad was like, get out of here. 247 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 6: No. 248 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 7: It was like, oh, you want to divorce my son, 249 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:44,880 Speaker 7: get you and my grandkids. 250 00:12:44,880 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 4: Fucking beat it. 251 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: Oh okay, yeah, sir. 252 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 5: H yeah. 253 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 10: Tempo sinverte, Tempo sing verte. Look that up, listen to it. 254 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: It's good. 255 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:55,720 Speaker 4: It's really good. Okay. 256 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 1: I like time without green, of course, you know, and 257 00:13:02,160 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 1: I always. 258 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 4: Say that time agree. 259 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: Ye, I'm probably mispronouncing that. 260 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 10: I do look not metady, not seen Verde, would see 261 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 10: day without seeing day. 262 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 4: Okay, time without. 263 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: Seeing you, and time without seeing you is also without 264 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 1: seeing something. I say, all the team, all the team, Katie. 265 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 4: What's something you think is overrated? 266 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 11: Overrated? 267 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:28,120 Speaker 12: I think giving friends advice? I think it's the worst idea. 268 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 12: We should stop doing it. 269 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 7: Okay, give me, give me an example. Put me in 270 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 7: the situation where I'm fully embracing this. 271 00:13:34,720 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 4: Take. 272 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 11: Okay. 273 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 12: So if somebody is like, you know, I'm seeing this 274 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 12: guy and I just don't know what do you think 275 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,439 Speaker 12: I'm not dating that person. I don't know what They're like, intimately, 276 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 12: I don't I don't fucking know. We don't have the 277 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 12: same taste, right first off, wouldn't date a man anyway, 278 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 12: So I can't really. 279 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 4: Help you there for sure. Yeah, like we're friends. 280 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 7: When you said I'm dating this guy with the I'll 281 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 7: tell you right now. 282 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 12: Like if we're friends, then we have the same probably 283 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 12: like mental illness, Like we have the same. 284 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 1: Co morbidities, emotional co morbidities. 285 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 12: I'm not the person, and I'll probably not like the 286 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 12: person you're dating anyway, so I might just be like 287 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 12: not or maybe he's nice and has like good snacks 288 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 12: and is really friendly, then I'll say, hang on to him. 289 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, I've been in situations like that. 290 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: I agree. 291 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 7: And now I'm like, now that you say it, I'm like, 292 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 7: there are friends you have who have like the weirdest 293 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 7: dating habits, and it does get to a point like 294 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 7: I don't know if there's a fucking thing I can 295 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 7: say to you that will help, because there are so 296 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 7: many other ships that are like entangled in this that 297 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 7: is not what do I do? 298 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 13: Do? 299 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 7: I like dump them? I'm like, I don't know if 300 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: it's that's the actual solution. What's going on? 301 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 3: Here just generally right, like, they're not the problem right 302 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 3: right from my PERSPECTI if you are actually the problem. 303 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 11: But I don't have someone you've seen every relationship. 304 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, you've for me, You're the common denominator here. 305 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 4: So I don't know what else to say aside from 306 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 4: like you do better. I don't know. 307 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 14: It also is very unlikable to point out people's real flaws. 308 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 4: It turns out like. 309 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 11: It turns out yeah yeah, people don't like it. 310 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah yeah. 311 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 7: It was like, well, it just feels like, you know, 312 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 7: like you kind of don't like being single. You know, 313 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 7: like the second year off one, you're onto the next, 314 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 7: and I feel like it's really those spaces in between, 315 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 7: as Dave Matthews says, that you could really just kind 316 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 7: of find yourself and maybe make a better decision. 317 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 4: Like you don't know everything about me, you don't know 318 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 4: what's going on with me. I'm like, see this is 319 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 4: what just let's just talk about this. 320 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 12: Let's not talk right, right, Yeah, And those friends that 321 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 12: come to you for every life decision, it's like I 322 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 12: really truly don't know. 323 00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can talk about it. 324 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 11: I'll just help you decide where we're eating. 325 00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 1: Dinner right right exactly hides that. 326 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's just like talk shit and watch tv KK. 327 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 7: Every time you say we just should just get chicken bakes, 328 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 7: every time can we say something else? And every time 329 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 7: I ask you relationship advice, you always ask me if 330 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 7: I've looked in the mirror recently. 331 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 4: Wait, I just to go back a little tidy bit. 332 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 14: I felt like I didn't want to say this because 333 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 14: it would reveal too much about myself. 334 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 4: But did you guys see that ship. 335 00:16:20,840 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 14: On the internet where people were getting one costco dog 336 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 14: a chicken bake. You bite off the top of the 337 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 14: chicken bake like a cigar and then jam the hot dog. 338 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: It's no, oh no oh. 339 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 4: No, that is fucking wild. No. I mean, obviously I 340 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 4: would eat it, but I feel like it was bad. 341 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 7: That seems like that's a that's a Bridgetoo. We don't 342 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 7: need to We don't need to mash it up, you 343 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 7: know what I mean? Listen, I don't like glizzies in 344 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 7: unexpected places is not something I'm really like. 345 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 14: What about glizzies in a white cream and a hot 346 00:16:57,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 14: season dressing? 347 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,000 Speaker 4: Mm? 348 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 7: Wait now, actually, now that you say it like that, yeah, wait, 349 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 7: but wouldn't it displace a ton of the filling. 350 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 11: If you right, it's going to be a mess. 351 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 7: You just got to loosen it up where oh my god, 352 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 7: it seem like it made it seem like this was 353 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 7: not That was not the hard part. 354 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: The structural part is not the hard part. 355 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: Don't get hung off on the on the engineering. 356 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 4: Right, don't. 357 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 1: But the filling displacement that is bound to occur. 358 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 7: When do you when you you insert an object with 359 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 7: that kind of problems? 360 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 4: Bro? 361 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:35,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, what do you do with the butun? 362 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 11: You just have a loose bun? 363 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 7: Then you do just have a loose fun No, that's 364 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: your napkin now, or maybe that's your like bacon. Yeah, 365 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 7: it plops out the bottom into your bun and then 366 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 7: you eat this is this is getting so gross. But 367 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 7: do people like it or people saying like, dude, this 368 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 7: is the bomb, like adding hot dog to chicken. 369 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 14: Be I mean, I think the problem with especially I 370 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 14: don't want to say the kids today, but with the 371 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 14: kids today on their Internet and their apps, is you're 372 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 14: you're so incentivized to be. 373 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:10,200 Speaker 4: Like this is amazing. 374 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 14: Yeah, there's no way to know, like like you're not 375 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 14: like you're not supposed to be out TikTok being like 376 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 14: that's all right, I probably won't finish right right. 377 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:21,560 Speaker 7: Yeah, it's because that's like, yeah, like like the I 378 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,720 Speaker 7: remember early on, like in the pandemic when people were 379 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,879 Speaker 7: like these like Midwestern nurses were trying like Indian food 380 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 7: for the first time, and they're like. 381 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 4: Oh my god, y'all like this. 382 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, this is like chicken tico must must salad. 383 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 4: I don't know, it's so good. 384 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 1: It's like, oh my god, I've never had flavors like this. 385 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 4: Yeah. 386 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: What about the did you see when people were drinking 387 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 1: beer with a glizzy straw ew, Yeah. 388 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 15: And people are like, don't knock it till you try it. 389 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,280 Speaker 15: I'm like, dude, I no, no, yeah, it's like fucking 390 00:18:55,320 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 15: there's no planet. And then you don't want like a 391 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 15: ice cold beer soaked fucking frank to eat at the end. 392 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 15: Oh gosh, no, no, no, no. 393 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 4: It's really. 394 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 14: I mean, look, ninety percent of the like of the 395 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 14: food content on this is me hot take the yeah 396 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 14: is truly it's because people cannot fucking cook, and so 397 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 14: all of the life hack industry is like every one 398 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 14: of those gadgets. If you know how to use a knife, 399 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 14: you would not need this thingmore r. 400 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: Right, Like it's crazy. 401 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so weird. 402 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 14: And I do think genuinely it's because there's not like 403 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,360 Speaker 14: homec in high schools anymore. 404 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 7: Well, I didn't even have homech in high school. I 405 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,520 Speaker 7: barely did. Did they have? Yeah, it was. 406 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 4: Phased out by the other none. 407 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, because it's because it's women's work. 408 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 14: And and truly it was like I was like, oh, 409 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 14: this is the only class. 410 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: That taught me something useful in high school. 411 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 7: Like you need to get in that wood shot man 412 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 7: around the word. 413 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 14: Yeah, I'm gonna be making a lot of fucking benches 414 00:19:57,800 --> 00:19:58,439 Speaker 14: in my life. 415 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 7: I'm gonna be biting the end off a chicken bake 416 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 7: and fucking tossing in a glizz All right, let's take 417 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 7: a break and take an an acid tablet just from 418 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 7: thinking about that, and we'll be right back after this. 419 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 16: And we're back. 420 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: So, Chris, you've been studying this for thirty years, kind 421 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 1: of the meat of the period where it's gone from 422 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: being a fringe subject on people's minds to a subject 423 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,120 Speaker 1: that's on people's minds and that everyone agrees should be 424 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: like the biggest story it feels like, But how has 425 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: like you talked about just like early days of climate 426 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 1: in your career versus today, Like what about that contrast 427 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: makes you hopeful or otherwise. 428 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Now we've known for such a long time, you know, 429 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 2: it's amazing. Back in the eighteen fifties, units Foot was 430 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: American and she was a very early scientist area who 431 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: basically discovered the greenhouse effecting and climate change. 432 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: Didn't call the. 433 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Crisis or change at the time, but she realized actually 434 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 2: pumping here to carbon darkxide in the atmosphere causes heating. 435 00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: So we've known about it since the eighteen fifties, and 436 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 2: so by the time, you know, in the nineteen eighties 437 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 2: or so, we're pretty clear, you know, of that use 438 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: of dirty energy has created this heat trapping pollution and 439 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,080 Speaker 2: it's it's basically adding a blanket around the Earth and 440 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:38,639 Speaker 2: is causing irreversible heating. So we've known that since the eighties, 441 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 2: and some companies, which fossil fuel companies like x On 442 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: Mobile I actually had some of the best scientists working in 443 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,160 Speaker 2: it in the seventies and they knew back then. 444 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,000 Speaker 1: So it's been a bit of a frustration. 445 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you're sort of you're always 446 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,879 Speaker 2: trying to engage with people to say, look, this is 447 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:58,399 Speaker 2: what the science is showing us, and this is looking 448 00:21:58,520 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 2: really bad, and what we going to do about it, 449 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 2: and if we move quite quickly it would be. 450 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:06,400 Speaker 1: A relatively easier transition. 451 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 2: But now we are here, we are in the twenty 452 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 2: twenties having the same conversation. My kids are now older 453 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: than when I was first active in this area, and 454 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 2: where we're still trying to get carbon ducts and other 455 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 2: greenhouse gas emissions down, you know, a pollution out of 456 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: the air. So it's been frustrating, but at the same time, 457 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 2: I think as a far greater engagement this last couple 458 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 2: of years, particularly for those of us in the Norman 459 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: hemisphere and the Western world are becoming even more aware 460 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: of it. So I think there's a real energy and 461 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 2: people want to do something. And that was really the 462 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: motivation behind the show, to be honest, because as a 463 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: climate scientists, most people, I mean I still get for 464 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,959 Speaker 2: crazy emails and I no doubt'll get a hoload more 465 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 2: after this service call. 466 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: But it was one of those things where. 467 00:22:54,800 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 17: That's audience man, and we're sorrys nest here, and it's 468 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,720 Speaker 17: just one of the most things where most people will 469 00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 17: ask me, what can I do. 470 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,120 Speaker 2: I think that's the problem we've often had, is that 471 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 2: here's a science. Now someone else go and sort it out. 472 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 2: What we're trying to do as scientists is actually work 473 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,680 Speaker 2: with government, public, actually industry, business. 474 00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:19,639 Speaker 1: Let's get this. 475 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 2: These ideas deployed and they are happening. It is super 476 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 2: super positive just how much we're seeing these technologies deploy 477 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 2: more and more renewable energy sources. 478 00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: Around the world. 479 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 2: It's not just in the West, so you know, there's 480 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: a lot of good news out there, but it's also 481 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 2: hearing for people what they can do individually. 482 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,200 Speaker 1: That's the idea we've talked before about on the show, 483 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,960 Speaker 1: about how something you just made reference to, like the 484 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: excellent knowing about this, like doing some of the most 485 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: advanced research into climate change decades before I think most 486 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 1: people even knew it was the thing, Like they were 487 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 1: lying about it before we even knew there wasn't it 488 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: to lie about. And so I feel like it's such 489 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: a clear villain like origin story. I just wonder, like 490 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 1: how you think about Like one of the things I 491 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: like about your podcast, like a lot of the a 492 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 1: lot of the times when I'm hearing these stories, like 493 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 1: hearing the x on mobile story, and you know, them 494 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: discovering that there's a problem and then being like, so 495 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 1: how do we how do we frame this from a 496 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: marketing perspective? You know, we don't get names. We get 497 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 1: big corporations, and then those are hard to like kind 498 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: of grab on to. But there's a couple real villains 499 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 1: on your podcast like Fred Singer. Ah, Yes, a piece 500 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 1: of work. I will say thank you for saving. 501 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, for those amazingly completely outrageous characters who are out 502 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 2: there pushing this miss information disinformation basically the creating confusion, 503 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 2: and the whole thing has been I mean, this is 504 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: a classic thing that you and you can see it 505 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:08,800 Speaker 2: on the whole lot of public debate. If you really 506 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: want to just cause confusion, you just say things aren't 507 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: really that certain? 508 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:13,880 Speaker 1: How threaded are you? 509 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:14,119 Speaker 4: You know? 510 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: We know, we know that if you didn't have carbon 511 00:25:16,960 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 2: ducks on the atmosphere and other green ass gases the planet, 512 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 2: we go about, mind, that's fifty degrees and that. 513 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: Chris, isn't it better than that? 514 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 4: I think that sounds. 515 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: Cold to me. 516 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 4: It sounds a little chilly. 517 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: A little bit is good, right, I think we all 518 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 2: agree a little bits good. And the simple thing is 519 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,600 Speaker 2: you add more to the atmosphere, more pollution, ill warm 520 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,040 Speaker 2: things up, and then he thinks up. But when there's 521 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: some of these characters like Fred Seeinger, this was back 522 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 2: in the eighties, you know, creating these arguments for some 523 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 2: of the best known scientists actually in the space and 524 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: then actually working with them towards the end of their 525 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 2: lives and basically casting down on their work just introduces 526 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: that certainty with the public that oh, maybe even the 527 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: experts aren't sure, just when you've got this real head 528 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:04,800 Speaker 2: of steam that actually they're going to make a difference. 529 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, X on Mobil. 530 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 2: One of my favorite things that I've been watching online 531 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,840 Speaker 2: at the moment is a great Adam McKay, the director. 532 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 2: It's just incredibly funny, clever matt. Adam McKay did the 533 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,640 Speaker 2: Netflix movie Don't Look Up. He started a new sort 534 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 2: of satirical comedy channel called Yellow Dots Studios, and with 535 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 2: Rain Wilson, they've done this spoof on Game of Thrones 536 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 2: called a Tale of Fire and Ice. And you know 537 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 2: it's the scene where they drag out the undead in 538 00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 2: a box, you know, in front of all the main 539 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 2: characters John Snow and all the others, and instead of 540 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,760 Speaker 2: the undead is Rain Wilson dressed up as a scientist, 541 00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 2: all chained up, and this fantastic thing about the House 542 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 2: of X on mobile as being the enemy. And if 543 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: people haven't watched it's on YouTube. It's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant. 544 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:55,720 Speaker 1: But is that. Yeah, there's some great villains in this story. 545 00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 2: And you know, when he's teaching about climate chain. One 546 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,919 Speaker 2: of the first things I used to show was actually 547 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: shared the students of this report back from the seventies. 548 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: There's lots of them been released since or being leaked, 549 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 2: and it shows back in the seventies, some of the 550 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 2: best scientists are pretty much on the money back in 551 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 2: the nineteen seventies, and seeing students get so cross, so cross, 552 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 2: and basically when I was born, they knew, they knew, 553 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:28,159 Speaker 2: and you it's outrageous, absolute outrageous. And they still to 554 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 2: come around sort of claiming, oh, it's too expensive now, 555 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 2: we need to stick with fossil fuel, that's the future. Yeah, 556 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 2: it's just incredible. They's still being given their time. Some 557 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 2: of these characters. 558 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Fred Singer, by the way, for listeners, we actually recently 559 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 1: did a story about lunchables. The public health disaster that 560 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: is Oscar Myers started as Oscar Myers, but it's like 561 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: a craft food prepackaged lunch that was given to us 562 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,399 Speaker 1: by craft food once the tobacco industry took for the 563 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: food industry, and like they were like, all right, one thing, 564 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: we know how to get people addicted in a way 565 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: that will make us money and kill them. Like that's 566 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: and so I just bring it up here because fred 567 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Singer's background thing that prepared him to be like one 568 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: of the fossil fuel industries, like go to people for 569 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 1: so in confusion. His background was so in confusion about 570 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: the health effects of smoking. Yeah, it's so wild that 571 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: that was just this like original sin where all these 572 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 1: professional liars were like watching each other being like, hey, 573 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: we should draft that guy. Look at the talent on 574 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 1: that ad campaign. I mean he has you know, he 575 00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: can shoot, he can dribble. Exactly. You just need people, 576 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 1: yeah exactly. 577 00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 3: But like because you were taught, I was listening to 578 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: your episode. I think it was the Blue Carbon episode. 579 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 3: Oh yes, Chris, and it was if we're talking about 580 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 3: like making this like a cinematic thing where we have 581 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 3: the villains. The villains seem like very clearly defined, where 582 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: it's almost like tragically sad and sweet that the the protagonists, 583 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 3: the people, the heroes of the story can actually be 584 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: from that environment, like the ocean or actually natural resources, 585 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 3: which is the things that we're actively destroying are the 586 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: things that can actually help us as well, which is 587 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: so you know, like kind of sad but kind of 588 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: sweet also. But yeah, I thought that was a really 589 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 3: really interesting episode where I've always thought, oh, it's like 590 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 3: we need to do this. We need like human beings 591 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 3: need to reverse so many of our habits, which we do. 592 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: And also we you know, your guest was saying, we 593 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 3: can't do it without help from the environment. Also, that's 594 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 3: the environment. 595 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 2: That's that's the amazing San Juan who's in Conservation International, 596 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: and yeah, the whole idea of blue carbon is, yeah, 597 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 2: basically using the oceans and and he has this lovely 598 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 2: quote he says, look, if I was king of the 599 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 2: world for just one day, I protect the mangrove forests, 600 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 2: which of these incredible trees that live on the coastal plains, 601 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 2: and they pumped down so much carbon into out of 602 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: the atmosphere into the ground there. I mean, it's it's 603 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: multiple times more than tropical rainfall. These things are huge, 604 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: and as you say, we go around clearing them and 605 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 2: under the guys that you get a nice view. It's 606 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 2: just I'm clear them for a whole load of problems 607 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 2: results as a result. 608 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: I'm a proponent personally of condos, condos with good views 609 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: of mango. Yeah, I'm so. I mean, I guess you 610 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: could convince me otherwise, but that's just where I'm at. 611 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: We just put him in the mangroves, right, Yeah, how 612 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: are we going to appreciate the mangroves if we don't 613 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: have giant condos there? Thank you for the question, John, 614 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: problem solved. 615 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: I think a really important thing with with with something 616 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: like as big and there's an enormous as climate crisis 617 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 2: is you could go really dark, really quickly. You could 618 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 2: go and there's a huge amount of challenges, massive But 619 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 2: the problem is that if you just give that message 620 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 2: of despair, nothing will happen. You know, we need to 621 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 2: get people motivated, and there's a lot of great stuff, 622 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 2: as you say, but it's happening. Putting aside to condos, 623 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of really good things that are happening, 624 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 2: So maybe we're talk about the. 625 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: Good stuff that are happening in the world of condos. 626 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: On another episode, you can go ahead with your contemporary housing. 627 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 2: And you're gotta You're gonna get people hope and and 628 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: actually showing which way we can actually make a big difference. 629 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 1: And I think left that's motivating. 630 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, your podcast does that, which I like, you know, 631 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: it's yeah, another reason why I connect with it. 632 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,080 Speaker 1: Yes, you your podcast. Also, you know you have the 633 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: Adam McKay episode about storytelling just again, and I think 634 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: your instinct of like telling your students from day one 635 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,200 Speaker 1: like they have been lying to us all along, Like 636 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: it does help when I hear the facts about okay, 637 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 1: like here are the things you can do. You can 638 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: like change your diet, you know which I'm joking, Like, 639 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 1: I agree, there are things that we can all do 640 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: to help. But at the same time, the vast, vast 641 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: majority of this damage has been caused by these companies, 642 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: like these villains. I feel like there's something kind of 643 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 1: focusing and simplifying about that that I wish was a 644 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: little bit more. I don't know, maybe Adam McKay is 645 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: gonna make like the great film about just like the 646 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 1: history of this. But I do feel like that we 647 00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: had it. We had the The Insider about the tobacco 648 00:32:57,240 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 1: industry that was like an Academy Award winning film. I'm 649 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: looking forward to the genre of movies to come about. 650 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,800 Speaker 1: They're like name names, like any podcast talks about. So 651 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: I've probably said I don't know the phrase climate change 652 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: a couple times at least since we started recording this episode. 653 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: That phrase was invented by Republicans to downplay the problem 654 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: of at like climate heating, like they change. They changed 655 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: the word from global warming to climate change. Like Frank Luntz, 656 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: whose name I recognized from being like a Republican polster, 657 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: was that was like his brain child. He was like, 658 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:46,120 Speaker 1: what if we just we just say climate change. You know, 659 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: we're acknowledging that it's changing. Okay, don't I can see 660 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: you getting mad. We're saying we admit it's changing for 661 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: better or worse. Who's to say, you know it's changing. 662 00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 1: That's enough, Like that's the first step. We've admitted that. 663 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 1: And this is a negotiation, like is kind of the 664 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 1: energy that it has and they fucking won. Like when 665 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: you search New York Times dot com results for like 666 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: global warming sixty six point six, Global heating like only 667 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:20,720 Speaker 1: one hundred. Total global warming is sixty six thousand, climate 668 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: change is ninety seven thousand. It's like the phrase that won, 669 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,600 Speaker 1: and it's just what Republicans wanted to make it seem 670 00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:34,280 Speaker 1: less scary when they were talking about it, and they again, 671 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 1: it's just a I don't want to feel hopeless. At 672 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,160 Speaker 1: the same time, I do want to acknowledge that we 673 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: are the victim of a vast, long term, and highly 674 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,640 Speaker 1: successful campaign to lie to us about something before we 675 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: even knew there was something to be lied to about. 676 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: That is like very sophisticated, and I don't know, it 677 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: just like makes it. It's like clarifying to me that, like, yeah, okay, 678 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: there's this. We're in a battle with a lot of 679 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 1: different people who are putting a lot of different thought 680 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,280 Speaker 1: into it. We are slowly making progress in that battle 681 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: in a bunch of ways that we'll soon talk about. 682 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 1: But I just wanted to kind of hear your thoughts 683 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: on that, because I was certainly a victim of calling 684 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: it climate change. I think I think that's kind of 685 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 1: what I referred to it as until your show told 686 00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 1: me I shouldn't. 687 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 2: Be Oh that's beautify. I'll define to have you on 688 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 2: the show next time. 689 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,360 Speaker 3: But yeah, you're look, I mean it's the broken clocks 690 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 3: right twice a day, he's not Yah, his kids toss 691 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: and left and right. 692 00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 9: Tough crowd, right right, Yeah, it's uh, it's one of 693 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 9: those things where and change is good. 694 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 1: Right, So the perception is, oh, oh it's change, okay. 695 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: And actually that recognition that change isn't good in this case, 696 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 2: and that actually a more there's a bigger issue. I mean, 697 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 2: some people aren't comfortable with crisis. They're like calling it 698 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 2: out of the same way people have talked about global boiling. 699 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 2: But that's another level up again. But you know, trying 700 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:21,320 Speaker 2: to get rid of global warming to global heating, climate crisis, 701 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 2: call it what it is. You know, we've got a major, 702 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 2: major problem here, and it's now in our face. This 703 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 2: isn't something that's going to happen in twenty plus years 704 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:33,600 Speaker 2: or whatever. Is happening now and we've got to really 705 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:38,160 Speaker 2: turn things around. And basically, all this procrastination and delaying 706 00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 2: is going to cost us dearly, not just economically but personally, 707 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,600 Speaker 2: and people are dying as a result. So it's an 708 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:50,239 Speaker 2: enormous challenge moving forward. But you know, misinformation, disinformation, that 709 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 2: is a big problem we've got now and a huge challenge. 710 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 2: All this stuff is out there and people start isolating themselves, 711 00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,680 Speaker 2: and I think that's probably one of the bigger challenges 712 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 2: moving forward really is that actually they get into their 713 00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 2: own world and they start thinking that, oh, they've got 714 00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 2: their world's view sorted, and they find these bits of 715 00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 2: information and basically say, oh, it's not a problem, and 716 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 2: they just hone in off. 717 00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: That is comforting, right. 718 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,279 Speaker 2: Right, And I think one of the things where it 719 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,720 Speaker 2: started to see a lot more now is actually getting 720 00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,759 Speaker 2: out there as a community, getting to know your neighbors, 721 00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 2: working with people, realizing you're not on your right And 722 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 2: I mean, the show is very much about what you 723 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 2: can do, and that's not just individually, if that's collectively. 724 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 2: And actually there's an awful lot of people out there 725 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: who really want to do things and actually make a change. 726 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 2: But you are right, you know, at the same time, 727 00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 2: you're very aware that there's this a whole society is 728 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: built around, and that's premise. 729 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 5: Here. 730 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: If you want fossil fuel. 731 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 2: Here is his petrol, his gas, whatever you want coal, 732 00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 2: it's all there and there's nothing to see here because 733 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,279 Speaker 2: it's just one part of the mix and things have 734 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,839 Speaker 2: changed before and that's not true anymore. You know, everyone knows, 735 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,600 Speaker 2: you know, the consensuses. We've got to we've got to 736 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,279 Speaker 2: existential threat, to be honest, and now we've got to 737 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:05,839 Speaker 2: sow it down. 738 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean one of what we'll get into 739 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 1: the lawsuit in Montana, but one of the lead lawyers 740 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,879 Speaker 1: who you have on just kind of breaks it down 741 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: in this way that was very clean for me. It 742 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: was like, people don't need fossil fuels, like people need 743 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: a way to heat their homes and get to work, which, 744 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 1: like the the thing standing in our way is not 745 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:32,880 Speaker 1: our need for fossil fuels, it's the current structures of 746 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 1: power and wealth creation that have been built up around 747 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: fossil fuels kind of protecting themselves. 748 00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 3: It's the default, Like that's the defaults. I'm going to 749 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 3: go get gas. It's kind of similar with the vegan 750 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 3: conversation we were having earlier, where you have to say 751 00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 3: I need to go to a vegan restaurant or a 752 00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:54,080 Speaker 3: restaurant with like not just a restaurant, because a restaurant 753 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 3: that default of restaurants. Is that, Oh, it's going to 754 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 3: be primarily like meat based, so that is really yeah, 755 00:38:58,680 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 3: that's a really good point. 756 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: Yeah. 757 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,279 Speaker 1: But all right, so let's take a break. We'll come back. 758 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 1: We'll talk about some of the solutions that you guys 759 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,439 Speaker 1: talk about in your show. 760 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 4: We'll be right back and we'll be right back. 761 00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,879 Speaker 1: Thank you, Blake, and we will be right back. 762 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 16: Yeah, and we're back. 763 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 4: We're back. 764 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:26,280 Speaker 1: We're back. Holy shit, we're back. 765 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 4: Where where was the. 766 00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: Seriously I slept through that whole break, Sorry, Miles, just kidding. 767 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: Miles is micro napping for like three seconds in between 768 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: every time I start talking, his head just goes down. 769 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, how was that Trump story for you? 770 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 1: By the way, was that different talking about Trump? 771 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 7: Yeah? 772 00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, we did talk about Trump. Yeah yeah, that dude. 773 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,400 Speaker 5: So you disagree with the story about Trump like feeding 774 00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 5: like millions of homeless people and wells in Africa, I'm 775 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,480 Speaker 5: for that. 776 00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 4: I mean, yes, guy looks. 777 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:12,319 Speaker 1: Like a the orange one. 778 00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 4: All right. 779 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: Let's talky about somebody. Somebody who's split like kind of 780 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:21,040 Speaker 1: shares complexion with Donald Trump, and that is Dog the 781 00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:25,399 Speaker 1: bounty hunter and they're both hair. Yeah for sure? 782 00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:26,960 Speaker 4: Is that a wig? 783 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:30,600 Speaker 1: They both could be. They both have hair that looks 784 00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: like it was designed to like launch a thousand Halloween wigs. 785 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah yes, but yeah, very unseious person. 786 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 7: Jesse Waters had Dwayne Dog Chapman on, so the racist 787 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 7: with skin as soft as welder's gloves could promote his 788 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 7: new book. And despite this being like a promo, stop, 789 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 7: Waters fucking decided. He's like, you know what, man, I 790 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 7: know you got a book. Let's let's just get into man, 791 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,280 Speaker 7: what about these motherfucking immigrants? And that led to an 792 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 7: interesting exchange of ideas between the two. And by that, 793 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 7: I mean I don't here's Dog the bounty hunter talking 794 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 7: about immigration. 795 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 6: Oh lord, hell yeah, go get get it together. 796 00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:12,959 Speaker 4: You go. 797 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,960 Speaker 16: When you approach these people. 798 00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920 Speaker 13: Whether they're migrants or outlaws, Yes, sir, this. 799 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 7: Is what we're going to when you approach these people, 800 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 7: whether they're migrants, are just already we're starting off on 801 00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 7: the wrong same Dith. Yeah, you're going to be looking 802 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 7: at Do you have any advice for Donald Trump if 803 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 7: he assumes office again? 804 00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 5: Is he going to make you deportations? 805 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:38,279 Speaker 10: Are? 806 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 13: I would like a job like that. And it doesn't 807 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 13: matter who you are, what what nationality, what tribe you 808 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,919 Speaker 13: belong to. If you're a law breaker and you're in 809 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 13: this country illegal and you were booted from another country 810 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 13: because you were a felon and told to go to America, 811 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 13: that's where we're going to start, is the high priority, 812 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,240 Speaker 13: the top of the eschalot, and they are going back 813 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,040 Speaker 13: and or they're going to jail. When I first started 814 00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,480 Speaker 13: bounty hunting forty five years ago, there were two bounty hunters. 815 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 13: Today there's sixty five hundred. You have theirs new laws. 816 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 13: You can't be convicted of felony in the last ten years. 817 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,360 Speaker 13: We use non lethal weapons that'll drop a mule. 818 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 4: Ready, what kind of read would you use? 819 00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 13: Well, the newest one they've got is the new pepper 820 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,200 Speaker 13: ball gun, and it's designed to spin. The body does 821 00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 13: not enter if you unless you I had to take 822 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,160 Speaker 13: a forty hour course. You cannot shoot above the neck 823 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 13: or it would kill them. So pop pop, and they're down. 824 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 17: That's it. 825 00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 13: What you want to do is put the person down, 826 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,879 Speaker 13: to cuff them and then go from there. 827 00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:45,239 Speaker 5: Right, So, I, for one, don't think it's good to 828 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,160 Speaker 5: have a nation full of like little Kyle written houses, 829 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 5: no running around like just fucking shooting like bean bags 830 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:58,240 Speaker 5: at like Mexican families and stuff. 831 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: That will take their head off if you had them 832 00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 1: above that, if you. 833 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 6: Don't have a forty hour training course. 834 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 5: I also, I just got to say real quick, I 835 00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 5: have not thought about Dog the Bounty Hunter for a 836 00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,520 Speaker 5: solid decade since Park episode. 837 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, or since he got canceled screaming like about 838 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 7: his son's black girlfriend. 839 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 4: He was like, Oh, you really like using the N word, 840 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 4: don't you. 841 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 5: Dude, I don't even remember that. That's that's how his 842 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:23,080 Speaker 5: show got canceled because like this like voicemail leaked and 843 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 5: they're like, oh boy, it's like come on, y'all didn't 844 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 5: see this man's face. And they're like, oh, no, he 845 00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 5: don't use the N word. No. Not same for like Paladine, 846 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 5: he's like, yeah, she probably is racist. 847 00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 848 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:37,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, there's a few phrases that they had to be like, 849 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 7: you know what, you actually can't say that, Paul, Yeah, 850 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 7: it's not I know it may be a colloquialism to you, 851 00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 7: but we don't. 852 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:45,000 Speaker 4: We can't do that. 853 00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 7: But I like, I was like, you can't be a 854 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:49,040 Speaker 7: bounty hunter if you've committed a felony in the last 855 00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 7: ten years, Because this dude he was convicted of third 856 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 7: degree murder in nineteen seventy six when he was Yeah, 857 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:56,719 Speaker 7: he was the. 858 00:43:56,840 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: Get away bounty Hunting Too Hard Miles. 859 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 7: Getaway driver during what he called a drug deal gone bad. 860 00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 7: But it sounds like a robbery gone bad. 861 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:10,200 Speaker 5: You know, I'm not gonna like fact check his like 862 00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 5: statements about like that there are sixty five hundred boundary hunters, 863 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,480 Speaker 5: but I'll be honest, I kind of believe it, Like 864 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,880 Speaker 5: I kind of believed that, like because of him, the 865 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,520 Speaker 5: like right wing in this country has become like so 866 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 5: like I don't know, like I just have to say 867 00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:29,040 Speaker 5: mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse again, Like it's all like people with 868 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 5: like mentalities like that where they've been like so like 869 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,880 Speaker 5: programs like hate like so many other people and not 870 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,120 Speaker 5: really have even like a sort of like a materialistic 871 00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 5: reason why to right. 872 00:44:42,239 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 4: But then you're doing it. 873 00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 7: You're doing it in service of like this oppressive system 874 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,360 Speaker 7: of bonding out of prison or out of jail and 875 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 7: shit like that, Like you're reinforcing that debt to be 876 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 7: Like guess what, one of these people will find you 877 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 7: with a gun that's non lethal unless they shoot you 878 00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 7: in the neck and above, and then it will kill you. 879 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 5: Also, I do think it's funny, Like I don't know, 880 00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 5: like imagine like one of these freaks, like because he 881 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,880 Speaker 5: says like, yeah, if you're like a murderer who's killed 882 00:45:08,920 --> 00:45:11,440 Speaker 5: like forty seven times and you got kicked out of 883 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:14,279 Speaker 5: your country for killing so much, and then they're like 884 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 5: are you talking like look like if we're talking about 885 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 5: like like fucking cartel hitman, yeah, I probably don't want 886 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,560 Speaker 5: them walk in the streets either. 887 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:26,080 Speaker 11: But like, what the fuck are you? 888 00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 5: What is some fucking like tumbleweed from like Nebraska who 889 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,799 Speaker 5: like is like I'm gonna become a bounty hunter. He's 890 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:35,319 Speaker 5: gonna go up to like a cartel guy and they 891 00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 5: will torture him in a storage unit four years like 892 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 5: he will. Yeah, you will instantly wake up in like 893 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 5: the hostel room, like it's over. 894 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 7: The other thing I always think about with him is 895 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,000 Speaker 7: like he always claims to be Native American, you know, 896 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,319 Speaker 7: like he wears feathers in his hair and shit like that. 897 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 7: He said he could use the N word because I'm 898 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:05,399 Speaker 7: an Apache was what he said, And you're like, that's job. 899 00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 7: But like many especially in like the Native American community, 900 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,320 Speaker 7: pretty dubious about that fact. Because he's so consistent about 901 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,360 Speaker 7: what tribe he says he belongs to, and most people 902 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 7: can't find anything that suggests that his mother, who he 903 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 7: claims is Native American, isn't just a normal like every regular, 904 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:26,439 Speaker 7: regular white person, and some people who have supposedly looked 905 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 7: into it's not really it's it's hard to say like 906 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,000 Speaker 7: this is these are the facts and truth, but they 907 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 7: say maybe it happened because in her past she said 908 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,200 Speaker 7: she had spent time on a reservation and then just 909 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:36,360 Speaker 7: started difference. 910 00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,560 Speaker 4: Yeah I'm Native American, I'm Native American. 911 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I haven't heard one of those like, uh yeah, 912 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:45,280 Speaker 5: I'm ten percent Cherokee like kind of white people. 913 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 7: In a while, I thought that was dying out. So 914 00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,040 Speaker 7: Elizabeth Warren made that tough for sure. 915 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was gonna say, sare you know right? But 916 00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:55,480 Speaker 6: then he said now shares Armenian. 917 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,439 Speaker 7: Recently, he said, quote, I've always had a pretty distinguishable look. 918 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,840 Speaker 7: Hell makes me easy to identify in a lineup. And 919 00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,920 Speaker 7: you're like what because you're what because you claim to 920 00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:09,240 Speaker 7: be a third or half or whatever kind of background 921 00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,479 Speaker 7: you're trying to anyway, so that man, uh yeah, he's 922 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:14,960 Speaker 7: hawking some kind of book and I think he's onto 923 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,440 Speaker 7: his seventh wife now, and he just I think in 924 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:19,840 Speaker 7: the last few years he found out he had a 925 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,799 Speaker 7: thirteenth child that he didn't know about. Oh my god, 926 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:24,640 Speaker 7: who was like a full grown adult by the time 927 00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 7: they met. So yeah, he's he's doing all right, he's 928 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:28,799 Speaker 7: doing and his oldest son, I think is in a 929 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 7: jail for a hate crime, so the family is killing. 930 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:35,600 Speaker 16: Yeah. 931 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: He really does look like he's wearing a Doug Bounty 932 00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 1: Hunter like Halloween costume that's like out of the box, 933 00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: like it does, like not a very good one, you know. 934 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, Yeah, it's a hard it's a hard look to rock, 935 00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 7: like a leather shirt and like wearing wrap around sunglasses 936 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 7: like all the time. I mean, I'll say he's done 937 00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,520 Speaker 7: a good job of matching his extensions to his natural 938 00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:57,480 Speaker 7: hair color because. 939 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 4: Usually real brass. 940 00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:06,120 Speaker 5: It's got that kind of like saggy both talks like looks. 941 00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: This was this was once all tight and improvable, all right. 942 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:17,359 Speaker 1: And finally Germany has passed a landmark trans rights law 943 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,280 Speaker 1: after legalizing weed. Earlier in the month, we got another 944 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,960 Speaker 1: w for Germany. Wow, I can't remember when. I mean, 945 00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: they're nailing it a plus No, but they did become 946 00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: the latest country to pass legislation making it easier for transgender, intersex, 947 00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,840 Speaker 1: and non binary people to change their name and gender 948 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:44,439 Speaker 1: in official records. It's the so called self Determination law, 949 00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,439 Speaker 1: and they'd been promising it since twenty twenty one. 950 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, because the process before this is like you needed 951 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 7: like a pathology, like you need to go through a 952 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 7: pathologizing process for for like an expert to figure out 953 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,080 Speaker 7: if it was like they're like, well, according to me, 954 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 7: after I've asked them all kinds of weird questions, some 955 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 7: completely irrelevant about asking about their childhoods or this or that, 956 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,160 Speaker 7: like they are approved to change their name or gender 957 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 7: on like official government documents. 958 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719 Speaker 1: So they've they've they've taken they've done away. 959 00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:17,560 Speaker 4: With that which you know apparently has been going on 960 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 4: for many many years. Four decades old. 961 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, four decades old was the law before this. 962 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,359 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's still the way it is here 963 00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 6: in Georgia, right, you know, and in a lot of places. 964 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,399 Speaker 6: So I'm happy to see it changing across the world. 965 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:36,239 Speaker 6: But it sounds I mean it okay, obviously this is 966 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,480 Speaker 6: something that was promised in twenty twenty one, but is 967 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,520 Speaker 6: this do we think that this is like a pr 968 00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:46,320 Speaker 6: spin for Germany and maybe again to kind of distract 969 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:46,759 Speaker 6: from their. 970 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:48,880 Speaker 5: Real I'm not willing to hand it to Germany for 971 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:49,160 Speaker 5: a while. 972 00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 16: Yeah. 973 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, Like I said, I'm like, like the only news 974 00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:57,480 Speaker 5: that I've seen out of Germany lately is them like 975 00:49:57,840 --> 00:50:02,279 Speaker 5: just basically doing like this weird like neo form of 976 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,000 Speaker 5: like notification but like in the name of like Israel 977 00:50:06,280 --> 00:50:09,600 Speaker 5: and I Germany is a very like weird, fucked up 978 00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 5: country that I do not fully like understand all of 979 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,320 Speaker 5: the uh. I don't know, I'm not like a history 980 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 5: major or anything like that, but like it it is 981 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 5: very strange. You can see it in a lot of 982 00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 5: their like cultural like stuff, Like there's a lot of 983 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 5: like guilt and there's a lot of like I could 984 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 5: definitely see them like just look, I mean there's a 985 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,400 Speaker 5: very you see this in America too, where like nothing 986 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 5: like take like the Black Lives Matter like movement, like 987 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 5: you know, like that was like a huge, huge thing 988 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 5: and what really happened, you know, Uh, Cleveland is voiced 989 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,920 Speaker 5: by a black person now, like you know, like like 990 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:50,960 Speaker 5: the only things that get changed are like minor social 991 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 5: things that you can move move the needle on a system. 992 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:56,359 Speaker 9: Yeah. 993 00:50:56,560 --> 00:51:00,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, so like that's why, Like, I mean, it's true 994 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:02,799 Speaker 5: because there's also there was that thing too where for 995 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,200 Speaker 5: a while they were like in Germany racism doesn't exist. 996 00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:08,080 Speaker 7: They're like, oh, yeah, can we see the data on that. 997 00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 7: They're like, oh, we don't have data on that. Yeah, 998 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 7: well okay, so that I don't know if you can 999 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,560 Speaker 7: quite claim that. W But yeah, at the same time, 1000 00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 7: right there was a prop house, there's a meeting of 1001 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,839 Speaker 7: like the Palestinian Congress, and all these people were coming 1002 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,759 Speaker 7: in activists and they were they were stopping people from 1003 00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,960 Speaker 7: entering the country, and then when the event happened, like 1004 00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,279 Speaker 7: the police came in and broke it up. So yeah, 1005 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,520 Speaker 7: it's definitely like there there's a there's so many things. 1006 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,239 Speaker 7: It's like the US too, where you can you can 1007 00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 7: point to these sort of narrow kind of victories. But 1008 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 7: even with the Supreme Court yesterday, they also they also 1009 00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,880 Speaker 7: kept on the like basically said, yeah, Idaho is free 1010 00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:45,240 Speaker 7: to quote protect the children. 1011 00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,040 Speaker 4: Or whatever by banning gender affirming care for you. 1012 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 7: So it's you know, it's always like everything is kind 1013 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 7: of where we put the focus. But yeah, to your point, Janey, 1014 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,640 Speaker 7: it's like, what the systemic stuff? 1015 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, they do the one for you, one for us, 1016 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:03,479 Speaker 1: and the one for us is always like you know, yeah, 1017 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 1: not that significant and doesn't actually yeah yeah, just. 1018 00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 6: Like oh well we put we have a rainbow flag 1019 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 6: in the Capitol building now or something. 1020 00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:20,120 Speaker 4: Right, but we're legally codifying discrimination. 1021 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, you can change your name for when we sign 1022 00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:30,000 Speaker 5: you up for the like Hunger games in America where 1023 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 5: you're where you're forced into the most dangerous game battle 1024 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:43,760 Speaker 5: royale conscription rights. You can pick your own pronouns for that. 1025 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,319 Speaker 1: Part of a deal with NBC. Yeah, just won't even 1026 00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:48,280 Speaker 1: be on TV. It'll be on Peacock. 1027 00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:53,359 Speaker 5: It's the new mister Beast video. We hunted people. 1028 00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: The amount of times that like Twitter is just shoving 1029 00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,240 Speaker 1: that ship down my throat. Beast bullshit, mister Beast, bullshit, 1030 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: What is going on with this? It's like, uh, I've 1031 00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,920 Speaker 1: created a thousand wells in Africa, Yeah all the time. 1032 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:13,400 Speaker 1: Like the one before that was like I locked a 1033 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:16,200 Speaker 1: thousand people into a grocery store to see how long 1034 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: they could survive, and then the next one like maybe 1035 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,960 Speaker 1: did he like get bad pr for that previous one. 1036 00:53:22,000 --> 00:53:24,960 Speaker 1: So it's like I made a thousand wells in Africa. 1037 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,840 Speaker 5: He does. It's sort of what you just said, the 1038 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,000 Speaker 5: one for you, one for me. 1039 00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:29,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. 1040 00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,400 Speaker 5: He does like little games and then he does ones 1041 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,799 Speaker 5: that are just like like charitable. 1042 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 4: Right, He's like, I bought everybody in Walmart everything they wanted. 1043 00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:41,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, hot take here that you might not expect coming 1044 00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:43,960 Speaker 5: from me, but I don't. I kind of like mister 1045 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,440 Speaker 5: I think he made. I think if you're going to 1046 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 5: be like, if you're going to be a rich person 1047 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,920 Speaker 5: with like the GDP of like a small country in 1048 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,560 Speaker 5: Central America, I think the least evil thing you can 1049 00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 5: do is just make silly little games on YouTube and stuff. 1050 00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 4: I don't know, like building well, yeah. 1051 00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:05,279 Speaker 5: The videos of like the one of like the I 1052 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:09,279 Speaker 5: made a hundred different countries, like compete like stuff like that. 1053 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 5: It's fun. It's just fun little videos. I don't know, 1054 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:16,400 Speaker 5: Like I feel like that's as far as like uber 1055 00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,120 Speaker 5: uber uber wealthy people go, like I think, if you're 1056 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,759 Speaker 5: just making little games and like videos and stuff, you know, 1057 00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 5: and it's kind of fun. 1058 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:24,040 Speaker 14: And. 1059 00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 6: They want to be mister Beast. They want to be 1060 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:31,359 Speaker 6: somebody who like gives out like free Lasik, like free 1061 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,760 Speaker 6: cochlear implants to they want to be it's kind of cute, 1062 00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:35,080 Speaker 6: you know. 1063 00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,239 Speaker 5: So they want to have their own they want to 1064 00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,000 Speaker 5: have their trans friend that they can you know, bury 1065 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:46,000 Speaker 5: people alive with. Like that's what we all want, you know. 1066 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:48,799 Speaker 1: I liked the one where he handcuffed that guy to 1067 00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,719 Speaker 1: a pipe and was like, if you want to leave, 1068 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,399 Speaker 1: you have to saw your own arm off. 1069 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:54,080 Speaker 10: Yeah. 1070 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:57,920 Speaker 7: I just kind of but like, you know, there's a 1071 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,400 Speaker 7: cynicism to it too, because it's like this of like 1072 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 7: philanthropy via click ast, you know where it's like. 1073 00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:06,919 Speaker 4: Is it coming from a good place too? 1074 00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:08,279 Speaker 7: But then I guess at the end of the day, 1075 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 7: if you're zooming out, well, no one's I've like was 1076 00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:12,879 Speaker 7: just doing a search. 1077 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 4: I'm like, did he actually build the wells? 1078 00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,759 Speaker 7: And I don't see anything saying that like that did 1079 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,200 Speaker 7: not happen, so you know it's no. 1080 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 5: I totally agree. I think there was a big thing 1081 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 5: about the one with the where he got like blinds 1082 00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:28,239 Speaker 5: kids like bought them all like surgery to like like yeah, 1083 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:33,480 Speaker 5: not restoring surgery something. Yeah. Look, I don't I don't know. 1084 00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:36,040 Speaker 5: I might be wrong on this, but I don't think 1085 00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:39,000 Speaker 5: the problem is like him doing that. I think that's fine. 1086 00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 5: Like I agree about the Senate the cynical nature of it, 1087 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,480 Speaker 5: but I think that the main kind of like takeaway 1088 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,320 Speaker 5: is like there's a surgery that makes kids not blind, 1089 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,600 Speaker 5: and you don't just give it to kids, Like it 1090 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 5: takes this fucking asshole with a YouTube channel to do it. 1091 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 5: That's fucking crazy. 1092 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:01,120 Speaker 7: Like I think I do cringe though when I see 1093 00:56:01,120 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 7: those people go up to like street vendors and like 1094 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 7: they're just like, hey, I want to give you this money. 1095 00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:07,480 Speaker 7: And then they look the camera and they're like, hey, 1096 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:08,960 Speaker 7: look at your boy. 1097 00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 4: Did you know what I mean? 1098 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,920 Speaker 18: Yeah, and so it yeah, because the video's over give 1099 00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 18: it back Mania, Yeah yeah, no, right, because I mean 1100 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,920 Speaker 18: like at the at the end of the day, you know, 1101 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,279 Speaker 18: it's just like when you hear those quote unquote feel 1102 00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 18: good stories about like how like a teacher was on 1103 00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,000 Speaker 18: a Southwest flight and the person they were sitting next 1104 00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,520 Speaker 18: to overheard that they were struggling to get materials for 1105 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 18: their class, so they anonymously donated whatever, and you're like, 1106 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:33,400 Speaker 18: oh my gosh. 1107 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:36,440 Speaker 1: It's like a field stories for systemic problems. Yeah, the 1108 00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:37,279 Speaker 1: story is. 1109 00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,600 Speaker 7: Actually about how little we're funding our public education or 1110 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:42,919 Speaker 7: the story is about how little access to clean water 1111 00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:46,520 Speaker 7: people have, and it's like everyone's like yeah, so, but 1112 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,799 Speaker 7: I get it too, Like, you know, I've seen some 1113 00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,560 Speaker 7: of the stunts that he's pulling. I'm like, oh shit, man, 1114 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 7: you can't do that with a regular YouTube channel, like 1115 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:53,240 Speaker 7: you need you need real money. 1116 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,200 Speaker 4: But I think that's what what's interesting too. 1117 00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:57,680 Speaker 7: All those videos I've read though, too, like are sort 1118 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,400 Speaker 7: of built on the backs of all these brands deals 1119 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 7: that he does prior to him. Yeah, it's not a 1120 00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 7: lot of times it might not be coming out of 1121 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 7: his pocket, but anyway, this is these are the complexities 1122 00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,200 Speaker 7: of our modern media. 1123 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:13,800 Speaker 1: Mister Beast buried one hundred people brought to you by loads. 1124 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,440 Speaker 6: To somebody needed to fill the space that Oprah left behind. 1125 00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:27,120 Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, remember that though you get a car thing 1126 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:30,520 Speaker 7: and everyone was like yo, but the taxes they were 1127 00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,480 Speaker 7: on the hook for, they were. 1128 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,000 Speaker 5: Yeah about like an evil Oprah where she's like everyone 1129 00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 5: look under your seat and everyone like looks and there 1130 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,960 Speaker 5: like ow and she's like you found a use needle. 1131 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:47,760 Speaker 7: Email from the nineties about going to a movie theater 1132 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:50,400 Speaker 7: and it's like welcome to Welcome to the world of 1133 00:57:50,440 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 7: bloodborne illness. 1134 00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:55,120 Speaker 6: Is the ball bound the ball pit. My grandma wouldnt 1135 00:57:55,160 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 6: let me go on the ball pit because the ball 1136 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:57,400 Speaker 6: pit has put. 1137 00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 5: Yeah that's so funny, Like yeah, what there's a thirty 1138 00:58:00,600 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 5: year old like heroin attic in the bullpen and everyone's like, yeah, 1139 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 5: that's normal, Like yeah. 1140 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 1: Look into your chair, that's your daughter, right, Oh she's 1141 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:17,959 Speaker 1: safe for now. Damn Oprah, amazing, I want to Oprah. Yeah, 1142 00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. 1143 00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: Please like and review the show if you like, the 1144 00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: show means the world de Miles. He he needs your validation, folks. 1145 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will 1146 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:36,080 Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. 1147 00:58:36,400 --> 00:59:02,360 Speaker 19: Bye. Bing