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Speaker 2: Kim is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and he's getting ghosted by a woman named Elena.

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Speaker 2: They went on a date and now he's hearing nothing.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to try to get her on the

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Speaker 2: phone in a minute and see why she's ghosting him

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Speaker 2: and maybe get him another date. But before that, Caim,

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Speaker 2: how long has it Vin since you heard from Elena?

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Speaker 3: It's in about four days.

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Speaker 4: How did you meet Elena?

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Speaker 3: Well, so we we actually met at a grocery store

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Speaker 3: check outline.

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Speaker 1: Oh cool, he homer, Yeah, how'd that work?

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Speaker 3: No, like a Hallmark movie. That's perfect. That's well, that's

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Speaker 3: what I was saying. So I saw her. I thought

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Speaker 3: I ended up following her out to her car. We

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Speaker 3: and she was like totally into it. It was really

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Speaker 3: He's like so cute. You know. We were like flirting

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Speaker 3: and talking to each other and exchange numbers. So I

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Speaker 3: that at all. So I was thinking, you know, for

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Speaker 3: our first date, I was like, oh man, this would

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Speaker 3: the grocery store, parking a lot and like have like

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Speaker 3: an outdoor picnic in the back of my truck, you know.

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Speaker 3: And I brought like pillows and blankets, and I had

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Speaker 1: Who are you you're in there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, I thin thought it'll be really cute that

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Speaker 3: whole Star is Born kind of vibe, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just sort of felt like, I don't know the

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Speaker 3: only thing I could say it is like felt like

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Speaker 3: really meant to be. And so I know it's only

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Speaker 3: been four days, but you know, it went really well,

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Speaker 3: and we were talking a lot afterwards and texting, you

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Speaker 3: know that, like texting a lot between each other, and

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, it just communications stops. I'm thinking, like,

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Speaker 3: what's what happened? It seems bigger to me because it

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Speaker 1: Out texting after your date and everything.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, she hit me up, said good night,

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Speaker 3: I say good night. We were like that entire next day,

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Speaker 3: like all day We're just texting back and forth. It

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Speaker 3: was just it was just wonderful and I was going,

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Speaker 3: oh my god, this is like this is like romantic

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Speaker 3: a little worried. I don't know why. I'm just in

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Speaker 3: to any of my texts. I'm hoping that you can

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Speaker 3: help me get in touch with her and maybe she'll

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Speaker 3: let me know what's going on. Maybe it's just she

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Speaker 3: got busy or something, or who knows, that's my hope.

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Speaker 1: Anyway, Well, if you.

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Speaker 5: Think back on the date, was there any moment I

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Speaker 5: guess if she was talking to you the day after,

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Speaker 5: or maybe she was being polite talking to you the

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Speaker 5: day after and then knew she was going to go

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Speaker 5: of that would have been weird?

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Speaker 3: Nothing? I mean, honestly, honestly, I can't think of anything.

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Speaker 3: I mean, we weren't just talking to me polite, we

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Speaker 3: And yeah, that's how a person you just going to

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Speaker 1: Anything you could think of there would be a reason

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Speaker 3: I mean, honestly, I have no idea. I sware. I

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Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, was as romantic as she thought

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Speaker 3: look back and I don't know, talk to a friend

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Speaker 3: or something. They thought it was corny, but I don't

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Speaker 3: maybe she had another relationship or something and it was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe all right, we'll play a song come Back,

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Speaker 2: and then call her and see if she'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why she's ghosting you and maybe get you another date.

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that'd be great.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, play a song come back, get your first

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Speaker 2: Day follow up next. If you're just joining us for

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Speaker 2: today's first Day follow up. Cam is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and he's getting ghosted by Elena. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: us why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Cam, why don't you catch

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Speaker 2: everybody up on your situation.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I met this beautiful girl named Helena, uh the

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Speaker 3: checkout line at the grocery store. We had a wonderful

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Speaker 3: date and everything went well, and then she just hasn't,

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Speaker 3: you know, hit me back, and just been a few days,

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Speaker 3: and I'm hoping that something's still there.

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Speaker 2: And you were texting with her for a while after

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Speaker 2: your date too, It's not like she didn't ghost you right.

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Speaker 3: After the date, correct, right? Yayah? We did. We follow

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Speaker 3: it up and have tons of communication the day after,

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Speaker 3: and then it just stopped.

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Speaker 4: I could have been our friends rooster blocking and calling

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Speaker 4: it a corny date.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, maybe one of her friends said it

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Speaker 6: was corny or something like that in the parking lot

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Speaker 6: or trying to follow a movie or something.

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Speaker 1: But all right, well we'll see. Are you ready for

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Speaker 1: us to call her?

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Speaker 3: Yes, I'm ready to let's rock and roll.

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Speaker 4: Here we go. Hello.

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Speaker 3: Hi?

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Speaker 1: Is this Elena?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What's up? Elena? How are you? My name is Jewbell

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Speaker 1: and I host a radio show. It's called the Jeubell Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Elena, the whole show's here. My name's Nina. Oh hi,

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Speaker 4: I'm Victoria.

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Speaker 1: How are you Hi, Hi. Do you ever listen to

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Speaker 1: the show.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's.

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Speaker 7: Kind of it's a little sury. He's calling me right now.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it the same way?

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Speaker 6: What?

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Speaker 5: We'll just cross his arms, sat back, and isn't it

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Speaker 5: It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy how we met this way, Elena. We're calling

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Speaker 2: you because we do a segment of the show called

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Speaker 2: the First Day follow Up, where if you go out

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Speaker 2: on a date with someone and they end up ghosting them,

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Speaker 2: they can email us to get you on the phone

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Speaker 2: and ask what happened and why you're ghosting them. And

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Speaker 2: we got an email about you from a dude named Cam.

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Speaker 4: All right, well, all right, that doesn't sound very I know.

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Speaker 7: I mean he I really liked Kim and there's nothing

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really nice.

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Speaker 7: I actually thought it was probably the most romantic date

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Speaker 7: following night I get a random DM from this girl

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Speaker 7: named Melissa who just basically was just like, don't speak

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Speaker 8: This and that, and I'm and I was like, well,

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Speaker 8: I don't believe you, like, how do you? And she

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Speaker 8: and it's clearly him, and I'm just like, I don't know.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to be a SIPs here, like I

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Speaker 7: So I just i'd rather know.

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Speaker 3: Please, I'm sorry. I didn't want to cut anybody off,

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Speaker 3: but I have to correct this, please, Lena.

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Speaker 1: That's Cam. He's actually on the phone listening.

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Speaker 3: Nohing, wow, Hi, Yeah, no, No, I'm so sorry I

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Speaker 3: glad you said that, because look, Melissa is my ex,

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Speaker 3: like we have been separated for over a year now,

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Speaker 3: could be reconciled because I haven't been dating because I

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Speaker 3: still work together. But no, way, no, we are. I'm

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent single, Like there is nothing there. I

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Speaker 3: totally thought it was the best thing I've ever been on, too,

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Speaker 3: and I don't want to love that because of this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's total. I swear you can ask my

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Speaker 3: friends follow up with anything. We are not together anymore.

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Speaker 3: She is I don't know what that is super spiteful.

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Speaker 7: He said, you haven't been with her for.

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Speaker 3: A year, No over a year, like it has been done.

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Speaker 3: We were together for a few years, like four years,

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Speaker 3: and it just didn't work out, and it's been over

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Speaker 3: and she just hasn't really moved on. I mean I

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Speaker 3: my god, this is magic, Like so he saw and

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Speaker 3: you must have said something which is crazy.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, like believe me, Well, just tell her not to

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Speaker 9: reach out to me, because, like I know, has she

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Speaker 3: She has done it one time before. But I thought

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Speaker 5: There's nothing that's making her your ex feel like that.

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Speaker 5: There's a real reason.

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Speaker 4: To be holding on. And I know people are quick

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Speaker 5: To conclusions and be like, oh, she's crazy, but like

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Speaker 5: you are you sure you're not giving her mixed signals

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Speaker 5: like I don't know, say to who.

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Speaker 3: You guys, No, no, No, we don't. We don't hang

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Speaker 3: it felt like I locked her. I don't have fir

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Speaker 3: feelings swords her that way. Yeah, and so yeah, when

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Speaker 3: like you haven't you not seen me? But yet I'm like, no, no, no,

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Speaker 3: I'm just waiting for the right moment and dating and

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Speaker 3: but nothing's set right now. And I've said stuff like that,

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Speaker 3: but it didn't. I never gave her any indication that

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Speaker 7: Now this sounds like I'm just jumping into a whole

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Speaker 3: I don't know. It really a little messy, really, isn't

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Speaker 3: I can't fitting the other way. It's like I've moved

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Speaker 3: on if she hasn't, it's like she's still not She's

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Speaker 7: My life though, Like yeah, but how many times can

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Speaker 7: you like reiterate say that I'm hey, I'm saying like

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Speaker 7: we're not together?

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Speaker 5: Does she have snapped tendencies? Because honestly, I would be

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Speaker 3: She's not crazy, like I mean, I swear, I mean,

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Speaker 3: sometimes if you have a path, it's not a path

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Speaker 3: that I want a part of me. I'm moving on.

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Speaker 3: I have moved on, and someone else doesn't determine who

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Speaker 3: I am.

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Speaker 5: I do understand that. I do hope though, that there's

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Speaker 5: something that I don't know. You can do to stop

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Speaker 5: her from thinking there's anything there.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, now, well now the knowing this because, like I said,

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Speaker 3: the first time it happened a long time ago, it

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Speaker 3: was like eight months ago. I know it's fresh, and

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Speaker 3: I gave her the benefit of doubt. We talked, but

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Speaker 3: she's still like that, like, I'm definitely gonna confront her

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Speaker 3: and let her know this is uncalled for. It, like,

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Speaker 3: you can't do this anymore that we're done.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, not.

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Speaker 3: Like she shouldn't be contacting. You shouldn't know you I.

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Speaker 7: Block her, Elena, you must be really special if she's

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Speaker 7: still caught.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's something you can't get over.

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Speaker 5: Elena.

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Speaker 1: Would you like to go out with cam again? On

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Speaker 1: another day? We'll pay for.

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Speaker 3: It, give it another chance. Yes, I have plenty more

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Speaker 3: movie ideas, I swear, I'm.

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Speaker 5: What's the movie that has the girl holding mace in

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Speaker 5: her purse? Whatever that movie is, and make sure you're

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Speaker 5: that one.

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Speaker 3: Jesus, I've had.

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Speaker 5: My Like, I was dating somebody who's ex showed up

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Speaker 5: at the foot of the bed broke into his house

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Speaker 5: when I was there.

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Speaker 4: So I'm telling you, just be saying.

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Speaker 3: God, don't do what you don't know.

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Speaker 9: I mean, I'm just saying that, like, okay, good.

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying God, no, I'm sorry, go on the date,

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Speaker 4: good luck.

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Speaker 3: Would you still want to go out with me again?

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Speaker 7: Oh wow, what a proposal. Yes, but somewhere just you know,

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Speaker 7: near the police station.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations, you will. The first day follow up