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Speaker 1: and you may ask yourself, Doug, you weren't here yesterday. No,

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Speaker 1: and flip on the Thursday Night football. And oh, now

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Speaker 1: really really seamless. And we've had some decent Thursday night game.

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Speaker 1: Last night was not one of them. That was bad football,

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Speaker 1: and the Broncos did end up winning. And as I

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Speaker 1: texted the guys on our group chat, there are ten

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Speaker 1: seven games which are really exciting. You're like, ah, no, way, no, no.

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Speaker 1: There are ten seven games which are just slobberknockers, knocked

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Speaker 1: down drag bats. And then there are last night which

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Speaker 1: you could with some of the errors, the muffed Pundik

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Speaker 1: fumbles and interceptions, you could have played Benny hell music.

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Speaker 1: But what came from the Denver Broncos win. I think, Jason,

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Speaker 1: you said it best. So the NFL today can celebrate

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Speaker 1: that their team with the best record just played in

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Speaker 1: a standalone game and probably played the ugliest football game

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Speaker 1: of the year, or at least the ugliest one that

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Speaker 1: but especially the one o'clock ones East Coast time, they

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Speaker 1: It might be an ugly game, it doesn't look as

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Speaker 1: ugly that way. That one was ugly. The victorious quarterback

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Speaker 1: was playing at home in I think we can all agree.

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Speaker 1: Of all the throwback uniforms, the Broncos rendition of their

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Speaker 1: gonna look at, look at and go like, wait, why

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Speaker 1: don't they wear those? Is the regular uniforms. They're amazing.

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Speaker 1: Their play was not amazing. Their quarterbacks play was not amazing.

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Speaker 1: Bo Nickson, his second year as a starter, led his

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Speaker 1: team to the playoffs. Last year. They had the best

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Speaker 2: But you think about some of their reaction to booze

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been booed before, and I'll be booed again,

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Speaker 3: so not gonna be the last time. It's obviously unfortunate.

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Speaker 3: You don't want your your own fans booming you, but

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Speaker 1: Okay, he did say they need to score or more.

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Speaker 1: That's captain obvious statement. Here's here's Bonis gotta do better.

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Speaker 3: At some point ten points ain't gonna be enough. We

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Speaker 3: We five ways to win. Usually right now, it's the

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Speaker 3: A bunch of sacks tonight, you know, a few that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, here's his head coach, Sean Payton. Sean again, you know,

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Speaker 1: as you've said, your record says who you are exactly right?

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Speaker 5: and yet we're constantly looking internally. It was a tough

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Speaker 5: and we'll look at that tape and we'll warn from it.

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Speaker 1: We always will. Still, I got leap show here on

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio. Okay, So I heard earlier today Hall

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Speaker 1: of famer Colin Calhern say that, hey, Broncos need to

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Speaker 1: look at maybe drafting the quarterback because Bo Nix is regressing.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's what came out of the game

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Speaker 1: Well they win a Super with him? Probably not. But look,

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Speaker 1: the story of this is not about the Broncos needing

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Speaker 1: complete joke, right, and even Houston's downfall before that. What's

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Speaker 1: led to the Giants likely having letting Saquon Barkley go

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Speaker 1: Like Mike McDaniel. The culture of the Dolphins is bad.

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Speaker 1: They took on some guys that are just not good

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Speaker 1: Chris Kers with the team for twenty five years. He

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Speaker 1: wrong quarterback, and okay, so they took him. He played,

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Speaker 1: he was good, he was fine, he was heard, he

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Speaker 1: wasn't hurt. What you can't do is you can't double

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Speaker 1: survive when he's within the top five or even top

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Speaker 1: ten of quarterbacks in the NFL, because once you pay

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Speaker 1: he is not, and that is what the Broncos have

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Speaker 1: to be cost usself. As long as boat Nicks is

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Speaker 1: on a rookie contract, I'm good. Even the fiftieer option

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Speaker 1: still good. New contract, I'm not good. I'm out. Go ahead,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Doug, I just I think that it's only it's

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Speaker 6: only proper to do this game last night, Justice you

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Speaker 6: mentioned it, Doug. Highlights from last night's ten to seventh

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Speaker 6: thriller in the Mile High City.

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Speaker 7: Shotgunfer Gino Smith, who takes the snap, throws a ball

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Speaker 2: Deflected and intercepted Dondra Tillman.

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Speaker 4: On the rebound, the big Man is still loose inside

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Speaker 4: to forty five, belted to the ground inside the thirty five,

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Speaker 4: but the deflection up in the air. Dendre Tillman is

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Speaker 4: second interception of the season.

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Speaker 6: Don't worry, Doug, there's more.

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Speaker 1: Expect to throw.

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Speaker 8: Got time late pressure.

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Speaker 1: How does I have a.

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Speaker 2: Defender the forty five yard line. It's Kelly again, the

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Speaker 2: Veggat Native, trying to bring this one back.

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Speaker 1: To the Silver State. It deflected off.

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Speaker 2: A receiver into the hands of Kelly and the Raiders.

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Speaker 4: Will take over on the Denver forty five.

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Speaker 6: Don't worry, Doug.

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Speaker 1: You were right. There's more.

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Speaker 7: Rocos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap

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Speaker 7: is good. They do bring some pressure.

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Speaker 2: And they get to it. They blocking the balls bouncing

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Speaker 2: around picked up Denver's football inside the Raider fifteen yard line.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Bedet recovered the block.

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Speaker 6: Ah big thing to KOA eight fifty am and ninety

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Speaker 6: On those highlights, Doug. In a game where both teams

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Speaker 6: committed more accepted penalties than actual first downs, your analysis,

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Speaker 6: I'm not worrying about Bonnix right now is spot on.

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Speaker 7: Broncos look like they may pressure this a bit. Snap

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Speaker 7: is good. They do bring some pressure and they get

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Speaker 2: They pluck in the bass, bouncing around picked up Denvers football.

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Speaker 4: Inside the Raider fifteen yard line. Tyler Bedet recovered the bloc.

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Speaker 1: I can't hear name Tyler Bidet without thinking about a Bidet.

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Speaker 1: I have a great Bidet story anyway, Go ahead.

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Speaker 9: Just for the listeners to remind them. The Broncos are

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Speaker 9: still Dan Byer's pick to win the Super Bowl. Yes,

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Speaker 9: and I could not be more on board now. And

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Speaker 9: let me give you some my reasoning. If the Denver

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Speaker 9: Broncos win the Super Bowl, the NFL will feel compelled

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Speaker 9: to say that the best team in our league had

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Speaker 9: more penalties than first downs and was that jumbled slop

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Speaker 9: of unpracticed people playing unpracticed people. And it will put

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Speaker 9: an exclamation point on the Zoropa era of the NFL.

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Speaker 9: So I'm now rooting for the Broncos and the Slop

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Speaker 9: to win it all.

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Speaker 1: was An Eddie sutton team ever in THE ncaa tournament?

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Speaker 1: Here after? THAT i said? No was there AN ncaa

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Speaker 1: No he, said did you guys go To Niagara? Falls

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Speaker 1: yeah we did have that discussion amongst the. Group we're,

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Speaker 6: YEAH i think it's, totally, like really really. Cool it's

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Speaker 6: funny that it spanned twenty five. Years, however how many

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Speaker 6: there's got to be a small. Number he's just stayed

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Speaker 1: Years he's been in the game for a long. Time that's, Right,

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Speaker 1: yes he's been the. Games i've been a game for

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Speaker 1: you just one of. Them that's a crazy. Thing what

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Speaker 1: well let's not talk about last night started a football

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Speaker 1: INSTEAD i want to talk About luke fickle. Situation. Now in,

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Speaker 1: fairness we're in the Same University wisconsin, system but with

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Speaker 1: all of the coaching firings in THE sec and and

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Speaker 1: the struggles That Luke fickle has had In, madison there

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Speaker 1: which seems very un college football. LIKE i like it

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Speaker 1: for three. Reasons the first reason is just doing what

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Speaker 1: effect is so. Lame don't get me. Wrong not every

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Speaker 1: to get another. YEAR i understand, It, Okay my situation

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Speaker 1: is different than a different coach in which you inherited

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Speaker 1: how much money you, have, academics all that other. Stuff

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Speaker 1: with the exception of a debacle off the, field the

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Speaker 1: can can lead to get. Fired for the most, part

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Speaker 1: it's really about winning and, losing and they haven't won.

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Speaker 4: Enough.

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Speaker 1: Now they've also, had you, know every quarterback they bring

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Speaker 1: they want to throw the. Football if the quarterback that

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Speaker 1: in this case they paid a lot of money, too

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Speaker 1: REASON i like it is because it just forget The lemming.

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Speaker 1: Effect we've got to do what's best for. Us second

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Speaker 1: Sure Coach fickle and other coaches if we just had

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Speaker 1: behind me That i'm not going to get fired and

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Speaker 1: let me show you WHAT i can do and WHAT

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Speaker 1: then the last thing is we're not wasting. Money we're

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Speaker 1: not wasting. Money i'm broadcasting from The university Of buffalo's

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Speaker 1: ITSELF i, mean let's just be. Honest it could stand to,

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Speaker 1: Right Like i'd lose my mind over. It, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: Was wisconsin had separated themselves for a long time on

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Speaker 1: that's a great call by. You. Listen if it doesn't work,

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Speaker 1: is did you Think Luke fickle was good enough when

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Speaker 1: it be The peter Principal peter principles when you're advanced

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Speaker 1: the fact that you were caught up in this massive

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Speaker 1: Guy and, somehow Like wisconsin understands if you Fire Luke,

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Speaker 1: fickle you owe him twenty million. Dollars they need that

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Speaker 1: twenty million. Dollars so, instead, again we're not gonna waste

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Speaker 1: twenty million dollars on firing. Coach then we got to

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Speaker 1: spend twenty million dollars to get a whole new, coach

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Speaker 1: the whole new. Staff one if we put ten of

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Speaker 1: it into our budget along with what we got and

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Speaker 1: give him a year to see if he can load

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Speaker 1: up and go win and if, not then we walk

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Speaker 1: away with less of a. Buyout it doesn't because if

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Speaker 1: you're not only not good this, year you're not gonna

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Speaker 1: be good next. Year and it's very hard to see

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Speaker 1: that you'll be super competitive in two. Years it's that

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Speaker 1: hard to rebuild things when you lose guys and lose

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Speaker 1: money because you lose your whole team when you fire your.

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Speaker 1: Coach by would you have Fire Luke?

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Speaker 6: Fickle, no because of the reasons that you're, Saying AND

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Speaker 6: i think that a majority of the fan, base and

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Speaker 6: maybe it's the vocal, Majority, doug we're flabbergasted by the

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Speaker 6: decision beyond themselves over the last twenty four. Hours and

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Speaker 6: it's funny BECAUSE i also think it's a fan base

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Speaker 6: that wanted to take things to the next, level And

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Speaker 6: wisconsin's been in an interesting spot over the last twenty five.

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Speaker 6: Years Barry alvarez even admitted, that you, know they went

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Speaker 6: Won they won that AGAINST, ucla went back to Back

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Speaker 6: we're going to go and Recruit, california And barry admitted

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Speaker 6: it was a mistake that they thought, that, hey we're

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Speaker 6: In pasadena every, year we can branch out and recruit that.

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Speaker 6: Way and it didn't work for. Them there was a.

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Speaker 6: Dip they didn't hit on, those so they went back

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Speaker 6: to what they did, well And wisconsin Was. Wisconsin and

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Speaker 6: the only REASON i bring that, Up, doug is to

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Speaker 6: what you're saying is the, game to your, point has completely,

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Speaker 6: changed so Now wisconsin needs to alter. That wisconsin was

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Speaker 6: never set to recruit nationally twenty five years, ago so

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Speaker 6: you got to do what you do. Best and if

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Speaker 6: you brought another guy in and you're Paying Luke, fickle

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Speaker 6: you're paying that coach when you're already strapped for nil,

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Speaker 6: funds which is the reason why we Think Luke fikel is,

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Speaker 6: struggling it only makes sense to bring him.

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Speaker 1: BACK i also think that there's just a reasonable nature

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Speaker 1: i think five years is honestly about unless it's an abject,

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Speaker 1: disaster abject, Disestion, like, man this guy doesn't know what he's.

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Speaker 1: Doing there's off the field, issues there's whatever That now

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Speaker 1: AGAIN sec people are, like no, firm get rid of,

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Speaker 1: him get a new guy in. Here, like, okay tell

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Speaker 1: me where that, Works show me where the turnstile thing.

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Speaker 6: Works, WELL I i don't think that IT i don't

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Speaker 6: think that it, does BUT i think it.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't but you do think What BUT i do think.

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Speaker 6: That THOSE sec schools have more opportunities to bring in.

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Speaker 6: Money and it's it's funny to, hear you, KNOW Jj

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Speaker 6: watt was on With pat McAfee and they you, know

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Speaker 6: saying you, know get better, players And doug something that

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Speaker 6: you've said when you picked THE ncaa, tournament.

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Speaker 1: Who'd you pick teams have the most? Money, yes they.

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Speaker 6: Don't have it right, now and so they got to

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Speaker 6: figure out a way on how to get more. Money

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Speaker 6: and in a Way indiana has ruined it for. Everybody

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Speaker 6: but in a Way indiana has also maybe shown a

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Speaker 1: Succeed But indiana has lots and lots and lots of. Money,

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Speaker 1: like don't get me, WRONG i Think signetty's a tremendous.

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Speaker 1: COACH i like the, swagger like THE i like all that.

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Speaker 1: Stuff but don't anybody get it. Twisted, okay they've done

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Speaker 1: a great job of piling in a bunch of, money

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Speaker 1: and they haven't put it in the. State they haven't

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Speaker 1: putting any other. Stuff, okay they put it in the.

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Speaker 1: Players that was the, plan and they got more money

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Speaker 1: than everybody except for Maybe Ohio. State and that's why

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Speaker 1: they're right there with The Ohio. State. Easy it's not

428
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Speaker 1: that hard to figure. Out don't get me. Wrong i'm

429
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Speaker 1: not in any way saying he's not a tremendous. Coach

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Speaker 1: but to quote my legendary head coach At Oklahoma, State Eddie,

431
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Speaker 1: saidden you ever seen a jackass win The Kentucky. Derby

432
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Speaker 1: get yourself from, thoroughbreds, brother get yourself from. Thoroughbreds and and,

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Speaker 1: LOOK i also think that if you get the money

434
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Speaker 1: and you have somebody come in who hasn't established a

435
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Speaker 1: culture or a way of playing or, whatever and you're

436
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Speaker 1: piecemeiling it that's hard. Too THAT'S i think what happened

437
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Speaker 1: In Oklaham state was they had some money this, year

438
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Speaker 1: but you had old new staff and they just went

439
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Speaker 1: and reached for the best. Guys that, again you have

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Speaker 1: to have an. Identity here's how we want to play,

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Speaker 1: well here's the type of player who succeeds, here even

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Speaker 1: if for a, Year let's go get him and that

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Speaker 1: may not. Work you, know that may not. WORK i,

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Speaker 1: mean you, don't Like i'm one game in we Played Kansas.

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Speaker 1: Day we didn't play particularly, well but we were some

446
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Speaker 1: of our. GUYS i had ten new guys that have

447
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Speaker 1: been Played division one game ever in their, life SO

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Speaker 1: i knew some of them were gonna be. OVERWHELMED i

449
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Speaker 1: know that many of them were gonna be overwhelmed to

450
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Speaker 1: where they just look like, like what guys we've Played,

451
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Speaker 1: Bradley we're, Okay, like let's just kind of keep. Going

452
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Speaker 1: but the point is THAT i try to recruit guys

453
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Speaker 1: THAT i thought Fit Green bay AND i thought fit

454
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Speaker 1: what we're trying to, build AND i think eventually we'll get.

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Speaker 1: There but, YEAH i MEAN i just. THIS i Remember

456
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Speaker 1: wisconsin was isn't built or hasn't traditionally been built to

457
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Speaker 1: be a portal. Program, Right and here's why THE sec

458
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Speaker 1: they do have more, money but they, also if we're,

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Speaker 1: honest THE sec was there was some nil or some

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Speaker 1: rev share before it became. Legal, Right so those those

461
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Speaker 1: revenue streams or those donors that you go to the

462
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Speaker 1: people who want to help the. Program and, look not

463
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Speaker 1: all of them who give now were were buying players

464
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Speaker 1: in the dirty. Side previously they buy a. Scoreboard previously

465
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Speaker 1: they buy a building on. Campus now you're, like, hey

466
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Speaker 1: want to buy a football. Team but those schools that

467
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Speaker 1: it hasn't changed that, much hasn't changed that. Much, wisconsin

468
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Speaker 1: it has. Changed it's also again And, dan you went,

469
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Speaker 1: there so it's also fairly liberal. School wisconsin is a conservative.

470
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Speaker 1: State it's a liberal. School and the one thing that

471
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Speaker 1: liberal schools struggle with is having, donors people who make

472
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Speaker 1: money who are, like, YEAH i want to pay a football.

473
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Speaker 1: PLAYER i want to pay a high school kid to

474
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Speaker 1: come be a football. Player go and, look tell me

475
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Speaker 1: the school that has a fairly liberal base of a

476
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Speaker 1: lums that's competing in college. FOOTBALL i would love to see.

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Speaker 1: It tell me who that. Is that's WHY i got,

478
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Speaker 1: friends that's Why texas is probably the, one, right and

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Speaker 1: that's why most people in football THINK a And M'S

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Speaker 1: a AND m is a better job Than. Texas even

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Speaker 1: though it used to always be. Harder it still is

482
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Speaker 1: harder to get kids to go TO a AND m

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Speaker 1: as Vos texas because it's a, cult, Right whereas Whereas

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Speaker 1: texas is like To, austin who doesn't Like, austin it's

485
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Speaker 1: kind of, amazing but they have to actually overpay BECAUSE

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Speaker 1: a AND m, is, hey they're just they just want to.

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Speaker 1: Win they don't care about any the other.

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Speaker 6: STUFF i Also doug gets, like When Luke fickle was,

489
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Speaker 6: Hired wisconsin had really plateaued Under paul. Christ, sure But

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00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 6: Jim leonard took over on an interim, Basis and SO

491
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Speaker 6: i think while The fickle stuff was, flashy maybe this

492
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,159
Speaker 6: doesn't resonate as much. Anymore but there were people who

493
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Speaker 6: Wanted Jim leonard to have that. JOB i thought he

494
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Speaker 6: was going.

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Speaker 1: To get that job as. Well YEAH i, DID i

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Speaker 1: did as. Well and then and then what happens is

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Speaker 1: if you don't Retain Jim, leonard you, KNOW i lose

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Speaker 1: all the guy's, Defense you lose all that equity within

499
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Speaker 1: the program really, hard.

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Speaker 6: AND i think that there's a portion of the audience

501
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Speaker 6: that never ever took To Luke. Fickle And i'm not

502
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Speaker 6: saying everything's all, right BUT i think that that that

503
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Speaker 6: also can sometimes play into.

504
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Speaker 1: Things Big mike actually came through with a very very

505
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Speaker 1: good point of a school in a liberal area that's doing.

506
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Speaker 1: Well It's Organs. Organ great, job good, Job. Mike the

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Speaker 1: The the only counter to that Is Phil knight's. Money

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00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 1: that's that's really. It Phil knights, money lots and lots

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Speaker 1: and lots and lots of. Money but it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a great. Point it's a great point that you. Forgot but,

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Speaker 1: generally again it's a general. Statement it's not an absolute.

512
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Speaker 1: Statement but when you're and when your base of, alums,

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00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: Okay wisconsin is it's a party, school but it's a national,

514
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Speaker 1: school a lot Like, michigan, right where a lot of

515
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Speaker 1: people come from the, northeast, right and they're they they

516
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: love partying at football. Games we're, like, okay, hey do

517
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Speaker 1: you want to give a couple thousand dollars or give

518
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Speaker 1: fifty thousand dollars so we can get another football? Player, like,

519
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Speaker 1: Oh i'm not doing. That i'm not doing that it

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00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 1: takes them longer to come. Around so but but good

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Speaker 1: pull for big Mic, hey who can give me a

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Speaker 1: big mic imitation of him Saying, oregon It's organ's The

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Speaker 1: organ's a liberal school that's doing well in.

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Speaker 6: College oh Arobar.

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Speaker 7: Organ it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: Good great, job it's pretty. Good it's pretty.

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Speaker 1: Radio so full, disclosure my late father, was as most

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Speaker 1: of you, know he's a basketball. Coach it's a longtime

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Speaker 1: college basketball coach for that high school coach than he's

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Speaker 1: AN au. Coach and he would do this thing where

535
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Speaker 1: couldn't help, himself you, know and all the player tickets

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Speaker 1: are in the same, spot and he, would you, know

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Speaker 1: do his own, coaching sitting there going, ah he can't,

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Speaker 1: Play get him out of. There he stinks, out and it's, like,

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Speaker 1: hey you, know his dad or his mom and his

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Speaker 1: girlfriend sitting right next to. You so my, coach Coach

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Speaker 1: sutt moved him to a different, area like away from

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Speaker 1: the rest of the. Parents because he couldn't help. Himself

543
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 1: now you have social, media so it doesn't really matter

544
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Speaker 1: if they're sitting with, anybody not saying, anybody because all

545
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Speaker 1: it takes to their fingers and a pressed. Send but

546
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Speaker 1: after The bears won the, Game James, adunza Who's romadunze's,

547
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: dad posted a messa on social media that asked whether

548
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Speaker 1: The bears would quote Trade rome to a team that

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Speaker 1: will actually throw him the. Ball another post that declared

550
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: the wide receiver should be seeing at least ten targets per. Game. Yeah, Yeah,

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00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: well here's the. Thing there's a bunch of parts to.

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00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: It Because JAMES. A, dunsay who is on social, media

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00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 1: lives In Las. Vegas he has almost four thousand followers On.

554
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: Instagram James dunsay does he watch film with the? Team

555
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 1: does he know the? Coverages and oh, yeah by the,

556
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: way even if he knows the coverages and watches film

557
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: and knows, everything you don't do. That he can't do.

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Speaker 1: That and While Roma dunsa, doesn't he's LIKE i even

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00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: talk with my, Dad, like, okay doesn't matter the most

560
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: important part is like it makes it harder for your

561
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Speaker 1: son at, work not easier to people who sit there

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00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: and go, like, wow this is just a. Sign well

563
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: here here's there's a couple of things to. It first

564
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Speaker 1: part is you at least you know what's being said

565
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 1: To Roma dunza when he does call his. Folks now

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Speaker 1: my old high school coach is now my assistant. Coach that's.

567
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Weird Andy. Ground he used to always, say don't worry about. Parents,

568
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: okay they're blinded by. Love everything they say is blinded by.

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Speaker 1: Love And james And dunzay's comments are blinded by, love

570
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: but they're also just blind to The nobody does that

571
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: in THE. Nfl you're a grown up and you're acting

572
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 1: like a. Child you got to my guns, ball you're

573
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Speaker 1: gonna get rid of like. Dude here's his, Son Roma

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Speaker 1: dunza responding to.

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Speaker 10: IT i don't make a big deal out of. It you,

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Speaker 10: know obviously he has his, OPINIONS i have, minds and

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Speaker 10: he feels like he needs to voice those things on social.

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Speaker 10: Media but you know that's that's that's his. Prerogative but

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Speaker 10: he speaks for. HIMSELF i speak for, myself. Man i'm.

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Speaker 10: Happy i'm just trying to do my job within this

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Speaker 10: you know. Organization that's you, know as a, leader as

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Speaker 10: a you, know as a, person as an, individual and

583
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Speaker 10: then as a football. Player so trying to excel at you,

584
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Speaker 10: know hall of fame level in both those. Aspects so

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Speaker 10: that's ALL i put the, RIGHT.

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Speaker 1: I, mean a perfectly professional, answer AND i take him

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Speaker 1: at his. Word but like you're you're a, parent you're

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Speaker 1: a giver OF, dna And i'm sure you've done a

589
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Speaker 1: ton to get your kid into this, position, right get

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00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: him into this. Position but, dude taking it on the

591
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: social media is like a high school kid complaining about

592
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Speaker 1: catches has no effect other than making your son super

593
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: uncomfortable because no matter how much they, say, hey you

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Speaker 1: speak for he speaks for. HIMSELF i speak for. Myself

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Speaker 1: we don't talk that. Much everybody thinks, otherwise and now

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Speaker 1: it's just awkward. Needlessly SO i, think can we are

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Speaker 1: we also all in? Agreement and a buyer's probably an

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Speaker 1: agreement with this. Too Antonio brown having legal troubles POST nfl.

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Speaker 1: Career in the predictability, matrix it was pretty it was

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Speaker 1: pretty easy to, predict, Right, like did anybody, think, like,

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Speaker 1: Hey Antonio, brown he's gonna turn his life. Around he's

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00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: gonna speak at schools he's gonna be a church going

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Speaker 1: citizen like. That tracks that, again nobody thought attempted, murderer

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Speaker 1: but the fact he's has legal, troubles everybody's not in their.

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Speaker 1: Heads let's welcome in our good friend who joins us every.

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Speaker 1: Week He's Mark. Dominic he's been the general manager of

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Speaker 1: The Tampay buccaneers twenty five plus, Years International Football league,

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00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: scouting moving up to the front. Office all the, Things,

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Speaker 1: MARK i want to ask you about Bo. Nicks my,

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Speaker 1: take there were some that are, like, oh Bo nicks is.

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Speaker 1: Regressing may want to look at a. Quarterback if You're,

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Speaker 1: denver you got everything but an. Offense my thing is, like,

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Speaker 1: look they're winning and one of the reasons they're winning

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Speaker 1: is their. Defense one of the reasons their defense so

615
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: good as they don't play the, quarterback bubb. KISS i

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Speaker 1: just the warning, is don't overpay in the second. Contract,

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Speaker 1: right that's THE tua. Thing that's all these The Danny dimes.

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Speaker 1: Thing don't overpay in the second. Contract don't worry about

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Speaker 1: moving on, now worry about just trying to do the

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Speaker 1: best you can and using all that. Money where are

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Speaker 1: you on Bow nicks currently and in his near term

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Speaker 1: future with The.

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Speaker 11: Broncos, Well i'm with. YOU i, MEAN i Think i'm

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Speaker 11: very comfortable with Boone, knicks AND i think that even

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Speaker 11: though sometimes team that might be playing to the Level

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Speaker 11: i've Seen bonix play. Before to your, point he's in

627
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Speaker 11: the second year of a rookie. Deal there's no rush

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Speaker 11: here for, anybody The Denver, broncos their, fans or the.

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Speaker 11: Organization they're gonna be painting with. Him let him continue to,

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Speaker 11: play let him continue to, grow and as long as

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Speaker 11: they continue to, WIN i don't care what it looks.

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Speaker 11: Like i'm, Like i'm gonna worry About. Bonus to your, Point,

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Speaker 11: Doug i'll worry about Boone knicks after year. FOUR i

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Speaker 11: don't have to do a deal after year. Three there's.

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Speaker 11: Something there's no written code here that says every player

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00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 11: that gets to year three has to get a, Deal

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00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 11: AND i think that's the way you can look at.

638
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 11: It BUT i think that Bo nix is going to be,

639
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 11: fine AND i think that The Denver broncos are finding

640
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 11: a way to get through maybe a tougher journey right now.

641
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 11: Offensively but it doesn't scare me to have him as my.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback Stut Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports. Radio let's

643
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: start with The Sauce gardner trade before we get to

644
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: The Quinn williams. Trade let's start from The jets. Perspective

645
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 1: do you like to move from The jets?

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00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 11: PERSPECTIVE i don't love, it, Right and here's the. Way,

647
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 11: yes two first round picks are two first round, picks

648
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 11: and that sounds well and, good but the reality is

649
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 11: you got to go make the right.

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00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: Picks.

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Speaker 11: Right you can pick a cornerback in the first round

652
00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 11: and he's not very good and he turns out to

653
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 11: be a, bust you can you can. TAKE i, mean

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00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,959
Speaker 11: just because you get collateral means you've got to still number,

655
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 11: one replace the player that you drafted in some, capacity

656
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,839
Speaker 11: and then you have an extra pick to hopefully not get.

657
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 11: Wrong that's not as easy as it. Sounds SO i

658
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,719
Speaker 11: think that WHEN i looked at this, TRADE i, SAID

659
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 11: i think The jets are doing themselves a disservice by just.

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00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 11: Jettising sorry about, that but getting rid of all their

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00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 11: players in terms of you, know trying To, okay we're

662
00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 11: gonna we're gonna build this team out. Different by the,

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00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 11: way those guys are still younger players in The National Football,

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00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 11: league and so now you're just gonna try to make

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00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 11: this thing even more difficult to. REBUILD i just think

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00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 11: it's a really tough move For Aaron. Glenn but to,

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Speaker 11: me If Aaron glenn's willing to trade a, corner maybe

668
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 11: there's something. MORE i don't understand what was going on

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00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 11: behind the. Scenes that to me is kind of a

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00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 11: bigger surprise based off his. POSITION i love the deal

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00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,680
Speaker 11: for The. COLTS i think it makes a ton of

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00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 11: sense for. Them they are an opportunity right now to

673
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 11: win The south and let alone maybe see what they

674
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 11: can do in the. Postseason SO i think The colts

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00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 11: it's worth giving up to. ONCE i think it's a

676
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 11: good move by.

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Speaker 1: Them, okay now do Quinnin. Williams let's start with The.

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Speaker 1: Jets does that make sense to The?

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00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 11: Jets, AGAIN i don't think. So you, know they got

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00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,800
Speaker 11: a guy Named Jawan briggs who's played pretty well inside

681
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,880
Speaker 11: for them and on the defensive. Line But Quinn, williams you,

682
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 11: know he was a baby coming into the. League he's

683
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 11: still a young man for a second round. Pick, Again

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00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 11: i'd rather just have the player AND i can make

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00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 11: that trade probably pre draft but let's let's kind of

686
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 11: see what this team kind of. Unfolds how a season

687
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 11: un folds The. Jets to, me they must have gone

688
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 11: To Woody. Johnson they had a conversation, said, hey, look

689
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 11: we're not going to win this. Year seasons, tanked probably

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00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 11: end up put the number one. Pick let's rebuild the

691
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,800
Speaker 11: team from the. Start and WHAT i Think Aaron glenn

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00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 11: probably did is we did the same thing and did In,

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00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 11: detroit let us do it. Here AND i have a

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Speaker 11: Feeling Woody johnson, bought AND i THINK i don't love the.

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Speaker 11: TRADE i think For dallas it's a much better deal

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00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 11: for The Dallas. Cowboys even Though dallas is admitting their

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00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 11: first round Pick Mazie, smith who they thought was gonna

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00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:37,919
Speaker 11: be a, player they've already replaced him With Kenny clark

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00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 11: And naquin And, Williams so clearly they missed on their

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Speaker 11: first round pick as.

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Speaker 1: Well Stut Gottlieb show here On Fox Sports radio and

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00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: The iHeartRadio. App Mark dominic is our. Guest, okay so

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Speaker 1: they've you, know The jets have waived the white. Flag

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00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: we know they're in a. RACE i just THINK i

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00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: agree with, you but to, me it's All bosi themselves

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00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,080
Speaker 1: to get the quarterback that they. Want is that is that?

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00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: Fair like they're just sitting there Going you had the

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00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 1: owners say they couldn't complete a, pass and, yeah Then

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00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: fields had one good. Game but to, me this is

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00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 1: all about loading up with picks to completely uh cause

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00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 1: you're not saying you're not going to win this. Year

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00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: you're saying you're not gonna win for a couple of. Years.

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00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: Right you can't get rid of your to your most

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00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: or maybe your two most talented young players and hope

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00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 1: to compete anytime. Soon so you're going for a complete.

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00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Remodel and the first focus is you got to have

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00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,040
Speaker 1: enough first round picks to get the quarterback that you

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00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: want and then work out the, rest probably trading those

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00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: picks to get other multiple. Picks fair guess on what

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Speaker 1: they're looking at.

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Speaker 11: Doing, YEAH i think. SO i, MEAN i think the

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Speaker 11: one THING i would be thinking about is if The

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Speaker 11: JETS gm AND i was in this, situation is each,

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Speaker 11: DRAFT i would probably trying to take one of My

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00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,000
Speaker 11: IF i have an extra, first try to you, know

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00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 11: move that back and get an extra first the next

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00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 11: year and pick up an extra third leg SO i

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00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 11: can continue to you, know have high. PICKS i think

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Speaker 11: The jets are going to end up with the number

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Speaker 11: one pick in the, draft and SO i don't think

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Speaker 11: you had to do this to make sure you get

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Speaker 11: the quarter you want to. Think he just you're going

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Speaker 11: to end up there either. WAY i think they're making

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00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 11: sure they end up there by the moves they've. Made you,

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Speaker 11: know just, yes you've got to find the. Quarterback this

736
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 11: league is about signing the. Quarterback that's all that. Matters. Really,

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Speaker 11: yes you want to build around him and all that good,

738
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 11: stuff but you've got to find that quarterback and then

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00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 11: you have a chance to. Win i've said this story maybe,

740
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,959
Speaker 11: before BUT. Tj watt OR Jj watt was the best

741
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 11: defensive player in the league forever right for five six,

742
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 11: years and he could only get at that time The

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00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,920
Speaker 11: Houston texans and nine and. Seven they turn, around they

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Speaker 11: Get Deshaun watson when he was, good and suddenly The

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00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 11: Houston texans are a twelve win. TEAM i, mean it

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Speaker 11: just shows you the impact that that quarterback position. Has

747
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 11: SO i get that The jets want to make sure

748
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,200
Speaker 11: they get that, guy BUT i feel like they've pulled

749
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 11: away so much from that team that even if they

750
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 11: get that, guy they still got to protect that guy

751
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 11: and then they you, know running back's already shown that

752
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 11: he's been on the trading, block so he's not probably coming.

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00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 11: Back Garret williams is probably looking around, GOING i don't

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00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 11: know what's going to happen to, Me so you, know

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00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,319
Speaker 11: it's it just creates a lot of. UNCERTAINTY i don't love,

756
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 11: it BUT i understand The. JETS i fundamentally believe they

757
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 11: sold the. Owner we're going to rebuild this whole thing

758
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 11: and start over instead of trying to piece mail. It

759
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 11: AND i think that's what they. Did and what Hey

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00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 11: johnson Bought.

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00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: Yep you AND i are a completely lockstep. Here what

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: do you do With Kyler murray for The Arizona.

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00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 11: Cardinals, YEAH i GET i think he's done his last.

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00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 11: Snap AND i say that because just Watching kyler in the,

765
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 11: system watching the, games watching his interaction with other players

766
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,240
Speaker 11: and other. Teammates you, know if you really watch The Arizona,

767
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 11: cardinals there's a lot of. Throws he may not have

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00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 11: the bad completion, percentage but there's a lot of throws

769
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 11: that he didn't make that are you, know, complete or

770
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 11: he didn't see or just higher completion plays where you're,

771
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 11: like you got to make that play if you're a

772
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 11: quarterback at this. Level AND i have a Feeling Manti Austin,

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00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 11: ford the general manager, there who didn't do the, deal

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00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 11: who didn't draft him in the first, place has looked

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00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 11: at and, said this is not the leader we're looking,

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00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:50,719
Speaker 11: for and so, therefore let's move. On let's put him

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00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 11: on ir let's make sure he doesn't have something more

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00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 11: catastrophic for an, injury and let's just move. On SO

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00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 11: i don't Think Kyler murray is An arizona cardinal in

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00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 11: twenty twenty six at. All AND i don't know if

781
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 11: he's going to SEE i don't think you'll see another

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00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 11: stamp from twenty twenty, five.

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00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: Right because then if he gets, hurt then you're probably

784
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: you got you're underwater for a future years contract that

785
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: you don't want to be underwater. For, okay now let

786
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: me put you back in the seat as a general

787
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: manager for a team that doesn't have a. Quarterback are

788
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 1: you interested In Kyler?

789
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 11: Murray, No i'm. Not you, Know i'm gonna bet MY i,

790
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 11: mean there's just been too many little red flags across the,

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00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,200
Speaker 11: bow you, Know AND i appreciate. That arizona, said, look

792
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 11: let's restart this whole, thing and let's kind of figure this,

793
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 11: out and let's let's see if we can get This

794
00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 11: Kyle murray thing to. Work but the reality, is When Steve,

795
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 11: kin the former general, manager wrote the, art wrote the

796
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,800
Speaker 11: contract to make sure that he would actually watch film

797
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 11: and not participates in video games or, whatever that whole

798
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 11: cause was that they finally pulled back. Out it was

799
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 11: such a bad. Look it spoke so deeply to his

800
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 11: level of love of the game to me that it

801
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 11: would make me, say as much As i'd like i'm quarterback,

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00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 11: LIST i might be better off trying to see IF

803
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 11: i can find that guy in the mid, round or

804
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 11: go find the older guy that you know has still

805
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,560
Speaker 11: got something left in, him instead of going with the

806
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,120
Speaker 11: guy That i'm afraid the team dynamics won't be great

807
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 11: even if he plays well for four or five.

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00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:14,239
Speaker 1: GAMES i hear, you what do you think of The

809
00:43:14,280 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: bengals and a couple of the defensive players openly complaining

810
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 1: about the offense and saying they just get a stop

811
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 1: after they lost to The bears last.

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00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:26,120
Speaker 11: Weekend, YEAH i mean it's a it's a hard, game,

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00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 11: right it's to kind of see what. Happened you, know

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00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 11: they've gone To, bengals has certainly gone through some tough.

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00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 11: Things you Watch Cam Taylor, britten they bench him and

816
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 11: then they turn around and let him put to the

817
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 11: cornerback for The. Bengals then they put him back on

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00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 11: the field and he kind of shuts Down roma dunes

819
00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 11: the whole. Game but they still score forty. Points you,

820
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 11: know it's it's they're not getting. Home they're not getting

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00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 11: to the pass. Rush you, know as much As Trey

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00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:47,799
Speaker 11: hendrickson is trying to do as much as he, can

823
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,279
Speaker 11: some of the guys they have on the defensive, front

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00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:52,400
Speaker 11: whether It's Chris, jenkins he's a run, stuffer but he's

825
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 11: still seemed some time to try to get to the

826
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 11: quarterback and that's just not happening for. Them so they're

827
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 11: lacking pass, rush not only just you, know, depth but

828
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 11: actually interior pass rush and push and that's killing this

829
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 11: team defensively in my, opinion and that's keeping them on the.

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00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 11: Field you, KNOW i don't think either side you point

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00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 11: fingers right. Now it's been. Frustrating they have signs of,

832
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 11: life BUT i think now at the time we're not

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00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 11: a player's only, meeting But Zach taylor will take care

834
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 11: of it and get and get him. Together, say let's

835
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,760
Speaker 11: stop pointing fingers at each, other point them at, yourself

836
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,279
Speaker 11: and make sure we're doing what we're supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Individually, yeah it sounds, good but, once once The cats

838
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: have the, bag once the defense is calling them, out

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00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 1: it's it's really any other comments that they, make won't you,

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00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: know won't resonate in any sort of. Way mark great.

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Speaker 1: Stuff as, always thanks so much for joining. Us have

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00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: a great. Weekend we appreciate you being our guest On

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00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 1: Fox Sports.

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Speaker 11: Radio thanks for having, On, doug enjoy your, weekend, buddy