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Speaker 1: Yo, it's a rap raid our podcast. My name is

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Speaker 1: beat Out. Elia Wilson, Happy Post Thanksgiving, got the yams,

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Speaker 1: vestle leftovers man, Man, I got leftovers till Christmas. Man

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Speaker 1: right at White beat everything every time, the Ham, the Hog,

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Speaker 1: all that shot to Shirley season. Man, it was a

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Speaker 1: very thankful Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Man. We did a lazy episode. We just with everybody

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Speaker 2: happy Thanksgiving and that's all we did. But now we're

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Speaker 2: back at it, man, Man at l Man. We can't

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Speaker 2: escape this atl lifestyle. Man, these artists are all in Atlanta. Man,

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Speaker 2: what do you think it is?

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Speaker 1: Atlanta's more than strip clubs and great wings.

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Speaker 2: Man, three thousands out here playing the flute somewhere. I

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Speaker 2: don't know what's going on Atlanta. Man, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: But we're in Atlanta for special reason, and special reason

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Speaker 1: only the Queen. The Queen. The Queen is hyped up.

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Speaker 2: Queen nodges of the building, man, menajen, Man, you know

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Beat. I like how we talk to

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Speaker 2: the women.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. The culture, man, the women's

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Speaker 2: voices to be heard in this culture.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is the season we had the

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Speaker 1: most female voices right. So far we had the two Monets,

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Speaker 1: two Moneis, Victoria Monett and Janelle, and now we have

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Speaker 1: Queen Naja Queen Naja.

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Speaker 2: Man the project's good Man more butterflies. Man. Appreciate her

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Speaker 2: taking the time with us, man, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: We try to show the scope of it, man, you know,

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Speaker 2: and it ties to hip hop a strow too, like

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Speaker 2: that Big Sean Records, like her biggest record, and she's

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Speaker 2: been on features with everybody from Benny the Butcher, the Jizy,

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Speaker 2: the Favio Favio four.

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Speaker 1: And she went to Utah to talk to our good

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Speaker 1: friend NBA young boy man. We all live to survive.

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Speaker 1: God bless that woman going on all the way to Utah.

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Speaker 1: She's like I'm getting him in the video absolutely like

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Speaker 1: she's like I'm not playing man, I'm working out here.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But it's really interesting too. We talked about this in

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Speaker 1: the conversation, like she's like a broken star and especially

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Speaker 1: on the YouTube space and like in the social media era. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but it's like she's still you know, still earning her

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Speaker 1: bones and so to speak.

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Speaker 2: You know, you know, it's tricky because I mean, I

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Speaker 2: saw somebody quoted The New York Times in twenty eight

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Speaker 2: team says she's like the first sole star of the

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Speaker 2: social media generation, right, you know, and like you know,

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Speaker 2: like a lot of times now, like the younger generation,

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Speaker 2: that's what they see as career goals, right, like the

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Speaker 2: way you want to be a journalist, per se, Like

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Speaker 2: they want to be famous off YouTube and be a

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Speaker 2: gamer or be a streamer, and like, you know, and

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Speaker 2: she actually broke through that way. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: once getting in the door that way, obviously there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of care and artistry to her actual music and

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Speaker 2: now what the goal.

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Speaker 1: She wants to reach through her music facts, because sometimes

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Speaker 1: it's a translate. There's a lot of artists that are

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Speaker 1: big on one social media platform, but you know, outside

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Speaker 1: in the real world, they're pretty much anonymous. Absolutely, But

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Speaker 1: I feel like she's doing a great balance in that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we've seen that all the time.

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Speaker 2: We got five million followers and can't sell five thousand records.

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Speaker 1: You can't sell a free show man.

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Speaker 2: Now. But now it's interesting to hear her girl like

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Speaker 2: that as an artist. And like I said, I think

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Speaker 2: the project's really dope, and you know, just showing the range, Man,

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Speaker 2: and we're getting down to it man, beat Out. The

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Speaker 2: season is wrapping down, man. We got two more episodes.

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Speaker 1: To a free U. We got my final countdown, Man,

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Speaker 1: final countdown down? Man, you can play that, jay Z,

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Speaker 1: Can I get an encore? Do you want more? Say?

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Speaker 2: We're talking to man.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk to man. You'll say, we'll see

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Speaker 1: but in the meantime in between times got Queen Naja.

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Speaker 2: So absolutely bunkle up man. You know how we do

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Speaker 2: it man? Right off podcasts? Yeah, yeah, rap right up podcast.

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Speaker 2: Elliott Wilson's name is beat Out. Beat Out. What's up baby?

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Speaker 2: Feeling good?

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Speaker 1: Elliott?

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Speaker 2: We got the queen here, Baby, The.

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Speaker 1: Queen's in the building. Hello, Queen Naja.

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Speaker 4: I like how I just bounced off each other?

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Speaker 2: Like, I like how you bouncing this truck after the butterflies?

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Speaker 2: What's going on?

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Speaker 1: You say?

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Speaker 2: Forget us album talk whatever, I'm about to lace the people.

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Speaker 2: Give him some music. We can't close this year out

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Speaker 2: without some new music, right Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna drop an album. Well, the beginning is here.

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Speaker 3: I was like, I'm for sure dropping an album. But

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna just drop this as an EP.

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Speaker 3: And I left a couple songs off because it would

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Speaker 2: It doesn't feel like an appetizer. It feels like it's

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Speaker 3: I did, of course, Okay, some people I go do

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Speaker 2: Hate those people. And I know, failing way to open

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Speaker 2: Like what resonates with that?

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Speaker 3: Why why is it one of my Well, it's very

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Speaker 2: Real life.

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Speaker 3: And I like most of the songs that I do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that seem to me a common theme

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Speaker 4: And so that's.

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Speaker 2: Self love right too.

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Speaker 1: You have two songs Butterflies and Butterflies Too. When it passed,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they do, because like I wrote those songs, well,

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Speaker 4: So I feel like and then I feel like I

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Speaker 3: I love butterflies and I love like the story of

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Speaker 4: That's what relationships are. It's likely challenging times. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: And the first album, Misunderstood, you released during COVID and

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Speaker 1: you weren't able to promote it. So this time around,

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Speaker 1: do you feel like you've been redeemed, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's not an album, so it's not as

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Speaker 3: much pressure around it. But I am doing I'm able

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Speaker 3: I like the feeling better of being around. So I

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Speaker 4: And you know here, so I feel like I redeem myself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what was the vision of picking these songs for

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Speaker 3: Well, there were all the songs that I had, I

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Speaker 4: With the story of the After the Butterflies. But I

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Speaker 4: Actually, Fading Away was going to be very like late

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Speaker 4: in the project. Wow, But I made it number one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. I made it a number one because it was

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Speaker 2: One and even down the soul Tide, I just feels

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had it ended beautifully always. I feel like

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Speaker 4: Stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: So it got some pretty voices on there. You got Monica.

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Speaker 1: I know you grew up listening to Monica.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love her.

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Speaker 1: So how much of a full circle moment was it

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Speaker 3: Super full circle, like big full circle, because yeah, like

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Speaker 3: I I grew up listening to that stuff, but it

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Speaker 3: So it is a full circle moment when people like

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Speaker 4: And like people like Mary J.

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Speaker 3: Blige a lot of sharing the stage with me and

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Speaker 3: baby Face put me on the album.

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Speaker 4: So like I be feeling like, dang, I.

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Speaker 3: Must really you know, they must really see something to mean,

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Speaker 3: So yeah, super full circle.

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Speaker 2: You but you've broken barriers like I re mem by.

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Speaker 2: So some of New York Times twenty eighteen, they said,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they called me that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he said he didn't even charge you too, Right,

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Speaker 3: That's crazy, And y'all I promised ain't. Nothing happened, no

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Speaker 4: He just chose not to charge me. And one of

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Speaker 4: but he was like I need you more?

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Speaker 3: Do you need me?

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Speaker 4: I'm like, what you mean?

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Speaker 3: But I'm glad that it was mutual and like we

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do all the security clearance and stuff like that too.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was easy.

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Speaker 3: I didn't think about that. No, it wasn't a continuation.

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Speaker 3: I just feel like I'm like the complete opposite, like

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I just bring that.

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Speaker 4: Does it feel? I mean feel good?

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know how two packeys ahead those

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Speaker 3: I'd be wondering. I'd be like, what y'all, what do

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Speaker 4: Like? Because I'm not even like that, but you know,

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing is I used to never want to

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Speaker 4: But sometimes you.

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Speaker 3: Gotta just it sounds good, like yeah, first it sounds

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Speaker 3: I just enjoyed taking older music that was so good

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Speaker 2: When you started packing on YouTube, did you did you

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Speaker 2: see that bridge of how that's gonna help you with

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Speaker 3: I didn't see it. I didn't see it because back

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Speaker 4: So I didn't see how that would work.

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Speaker 3: But once I did start my channel and I got

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Speaker 1: I didn't see it coming, like on self Love, you

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Speaker 3: Just trying to I'm a people pleaser and that's not

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Speaker 4: Make everybody happy.

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Speaker 3: And I've struggled with that since I was a little girl.

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Speaker 3: I feel like even in school, like growing up just

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Speaker 4: But I'm getting better.

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Speaker 3: On saying no? It's very hard for me to say no,

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Speaker 3: But I've learned to have those hard conversations because it's needed.

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Speaker 4: I went to therapy.

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Speaker 3: And it helped me just like face the like talk

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Speaker 3: have those hard conversations and you know, if that person

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Speaker 4: But you got to have them.

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Speaker 2: That reminds me. Words of affirmation very powerful. Record like

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00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 2: what motivated that.

446
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,200
Speaker 3: Because whereas affirmation is my love language, it's my top

447
00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:41,639
Speaker 3: love language. I noticed that, like, gifts are nice and everything.

448
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,760
Speaker 3: I like gifts, but it's nothing like and touch is

449
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,959
Speaker 3: nice too, but that's probably my second.

450
00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,639
Speaker 4: But it's nothing like when hearing a man tell you

451
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:57,440
Speaker 4: how beautiful you are, or like how proud they are

452
00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,920
Speaker 4: of you the man you love.

453
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,480
Speaker 3: Of course, I mean that I love, and so I

454
00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 3: was just it's okay to like request or demand how

455
00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,679
Speaker 3: you want to be loved, just like it's okay for

456
00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 3: a man to do it as well, you know, because

457
00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:16,840
Speaker 3: we're all loved differently and we all give love differently.

458
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:20,440
Speaker 3: So that's really that song was really me just expressing

459
00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:25,120
Speaker 3: what I would like and my man pretty much.

460
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Speaker 1: One of my favorite songs is Taboo with Eric b

461
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: Like for some reason, when I heard it, it gave

462
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: me that same feeling that when I first heard Marsha

463
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,400
Speaker 1: and bros Is far Away.

464
00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:38,560
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it was.

465
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 3: So that was honestly, I think that's the most different

466
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,920
Speaker 3: record I ever done. And I was scared to do

467
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 3: that because I was like, this belongs to Victoria Monette,

468
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,960
Speaker 3: not me, But it turned out it turned out really great.

469
00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:58,720
Speaker 4: That song was something because I know that don't really

470
00:20:58,720 --> 00:20:59,840
Speaker 4: fit the after the Butterfly.

471
00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was more so about me expressing the idea

472
00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:08,400
Speaker 3: of I mean, exploring the idea of cheating or having

473
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 3: like a sneaky link, because I'm always the one being

474
00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 3: cheated on. So you know, I wanted to just make

475
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,080
Speaker 3: a song about how it possibly would feel too right

476
00:21:18,640 --> 00:21:20,720
Speaker 3: she but I don't think that would feel good, to

477
00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:21,679
Speaker 3: be honest, I don't.

478
00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,600
Speaker 4: Think I would live with myself.

479
00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:24,919
Speaker 1: But it's funny you mentro Victoria MiNet, like you're not

480
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,640
Speaker 1: afraid to show love to other women, like I saw

481
00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,679
Speaker 1: you said that her album is the Teeto.

482
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 4: Oh yeah I was.

483
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,359
Speaker 3: I was listening to her album for days after it

484
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 3: came on, for weeks. Actually, I'm not afraid to give

485
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 3: women love even if they don't show me love back.

486
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,280
Speaker 3: That's fine because what when I give love is like

487
00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: genuine and it's like I don't really expect nothing.

488
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 4: Back in return.

489
00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: How you can connect with La on that note for

490
00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: the project.

491
00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, Lama been connected for some years now. I think

492
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, I forgot where we met, but we've

493
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: always like had each other's numbers, so anytime I would

494
00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: run across the record.

495
00:21:58,520 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 4: I thought you would fit.

496
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 3: I would send it to her and see if she

497
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 3: liked it. And obviously this is the one that she

498
00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 3: liked the most, so she got on it.

499
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 4: But that's probably because of the the West Coast vibe.

500
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know you love Beyonce. I saw that you

501
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,480
Speaker 1: went to her show. You say you left speechless. Oh yeah,

502
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: you said, I never experienced something like that in my life.

503
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: I haven't. That was like that show was Honestly, I

504
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:23,960
Speaker 4: don't think I'll ever.

505
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: Be able to to that.

506
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 3: That was crazy, Like, that's some crazy stuff I've seen

507
00:22:28,119 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 3: like every you know, how you go to a show

508
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:31,480
Speaker 3: and just like you're looking at just the stage, like

509
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 3: you were looking at everything around you. It was crazy

510
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 3: that everything was so big.

511
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 4: It was just humongous.

512
00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,840
Speaker 3: And I don't see how she got up there for

513
00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 3: that long and did that, Because that's why.

514
00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 4: I said, that's why she's Beyonce.

515
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: Why on touring for this project?

516
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 4: I do. I plan on touring. I got to get

517
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 4: some things together first.

518
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 3: I got to get my show together because I always

519
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,360
Speaker 3: like to elevate and I did my own I did

520
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,639
Speaker 3: too of my own shows headline. They were all so

521
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 3: doubt and then my first arena tour was Mary J.

522
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,480
Speaker 3: Blige and so now it's time to elevate my show

523
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 3: and switch it.

524
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 4: Up a little bit.

525
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 2: What was that experience like touring with Mary?

526
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: Oh, it was amazing. I love being an opener. Your

527
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 4: seat there, I mean it was in the building for

528
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 4: me arena early.

529
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,320
Speaker 2: So why do you love being open? And people feel

530
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,080
Speaker 2: like that's that's a challenge to.

531
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 3: You know, I mean because I it is a challenge

532
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,239
Speaker 3: because you got to open up this show and like

533
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 3: started off and get the vibes going, and I did.

534
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 4: I got them going.

535
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,639
Speaker 3: But like it was also like my set was shorter,

536
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 3: and I was fine with that because it was less

537
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 3: pressure and it was just a little sample of the

538
00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:50,120
Speaker 3: experience of the arena. Now I'm not scared of arenas anymore.

539
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: So because it's so big. I guess it was.

540
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 3: And then I at the end of the tour, of course,

541
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 3: it had like a little after party and I sat

542
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:02,239
Speaker 3: with me and spoke to her about some things, and

543
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 3: I was happy that we got to like chop it

544
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: up and she dropped some gems on me.

545
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:06,280
Speaker 4: And stuff like that.

546
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 1: What was it like connected with baby Face?

547
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 3: It was dope. It was super dope connected with him.

548
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 3: I don't know why I just giggled like that, but

549
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 3: I remember the first time we met. I went to

550
00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 3: a studio in LA and he was just sitting near

551
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 3: all quiet, and I was like nervous. But that actually

552
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,240
Speaker 3: wasn't the song that I did on his album. That

553
00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 3: wasn't supposed to be the song that we started on.

554
00:24:32,760 --> 00:24:34,760
Speaker 3: I mean, that wasn't the song that we started on.

555
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 3: And yeah, we ended up doing something totally different. But

556
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 3: he was very open, like he didn't try to control

557
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 3: the song or the situation, like he allowed me to.

558
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 3: He really allowed me to do my thing because I

559
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,920
Speaker 3: even changed the production up on the beat, and.

560
00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was dope working with a legend.

561
00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you thinking about your music? Makes you

562
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,800
Speaker 2: distinctive in the landscape of of this R and B

563
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: because not a lot of tensions being put to it

564
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,240
Speaker 2: now right, it's doing well. There's a lot of Grammy

565
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: knoms out there, like, what's your approach you thinking makes

566
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: your your music distinctive in that landscape.

567
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 4: That's a very broad question.

568
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 3: People always say what makes you unique? Actually, I don't

569
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 3: know if I could be really honest with you, guys.

570
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't know what makes it distinct your honesty, that's

571
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,640
Speaker 3: really my honest, Like, I don't know what makes it distinct.

572
00:25:33,640 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: I just go in and I do whatever is on

573
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,360
Speaker 3: my heart or you know. And I love those pretty melodies.

574
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 3: So a lot of times I don't just have them

575
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,400
Speaker 3: pull up beats. We make beats from scratch.

576
00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: Wow.

577
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: So like out here, okay, maybe this is the answer.

578
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 3: So I hear a melody in my head, maybe on

579
00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 3: a plane or like really late at night, in the

580
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:00,160
Speaker 3: middle of night, I'll hear like a melody in a show,

581
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:00,680
Speaker 3: and I.

582
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 4: Just love the melody.

583
00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,120
Speaker 3: And then I'll go in and I'll hum the melody

584
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,400
Speaker 3: to them, and then they'll play it on the piano.

585
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 3: And then after that, I start beating on a table

586
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,199
Speaker 3: with a pencil and I tell them yeah, yeah, and

587
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 3: I tell them like, you know, I want it this way,

588
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: or and then they'll go through.

589
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 4: Different instruments.

590
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,640
Speaker 3: I may not know the sound, I mean, the name

591
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 3: of the instrument, but I'll make I'll try to make

592
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 3: this sound.

593
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 4: It sounds funny coming from my mouth. But like it's

594
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: just a whole creative process.

595
00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 3: Not just from everything is like from scratch with it,

596
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 3: and there are very few songs that I've taken, and

597
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 3: even if I did, I had to make it mine.

598
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,879
Speaker 4: So so you're a producer, Yeah, I don't.

599
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,800
Speaker 3: I'm not a I don't push the buttons, but I

600
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 3: am a producer and I maybe one day I'll learn

601
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 3: how to do that.

602
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 2: But I don't know.

603
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 4: If I don't know, I get a lot of money.

604
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 1: Though, but.

605
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 2: Good though executive producer looks, yeah, that's fire.

606
00:26:58,480 --> 00:26:59,919
Speaker 4: But I guess you've been.

607
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,359
Speaker 2: But you have to have a vision in places you're saying, like,

608
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,879
Speaker 2: you're not just people sending you tracks, You're just singing

609
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: all yeah.

610
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know if that makes it distinctive, because

611
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: I'm sure maybe other people do it too, you know.

612
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: But I feel like when people hear my voice, they

613
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 4: know it's me. Yeah, I will say that absolutely.

614
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: So maybe my voice is distinctive because even when like

615
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 3: I was trying to be so low in New York

616
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 3: and I was just talking and people knew it was me.

617
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,160
Speaker 3: I had on a mask and everything.

618
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 4: Oh I knew it was you. I started talking. I'm like,

619
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 4: I don't know how they know my voice.

620
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,360
Speaker 1: But I think your writing is also a strong suit.

621
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: How did you develop that?

622
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 3: I've been writing since I was a little kid, so

623
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 3: like I used to I was like six or seven,

624
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 3: and I used to be in my room beating on

625
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 3: a window sill and making up songs about love, like

626
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 3: since I was little. And then when I was in

627
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: third grade, instead of playing like on swings and at recess,

628
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 3: I used to have like three girls come under the

629
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 3: little thing where like our voice can echo a little.

630
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 4: What is it called pavilion or whatever?

631
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,439
Speaker 3: Our voices would echo, and I would go home and

632
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 3: make up songs for us all to sing together, like

633
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,800
Speaker 3: we was like destiny child. But I've been writing songs

634
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 3: really about love since I was little, And that's funny, wow.

635
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 1: And like, do you like the idea of giving other

636
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: people songs so just keeping everything for yourself?

637
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,680
Speaker 4: I thought about that, but I'm kind of stingy.

638
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 3: Like if I write a song, I write a song,

639
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 3: I want to I want to set.

640
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 4: Voice to be honest. I mean, there are a there

641
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 4: are a few.

642
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: Songs actually that I wrote that are maybe someone else

643
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: will sound better singing it. Like I have like a

644
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 3: country kind of song and this, I have this like

645
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 3: pop rock song that if I put that out.

646
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 4: Myself, they're gonna be like, girl, what is you doing?

647
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 4: So it would be.

648
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: Nice to give it to someone else, but maybe I

649
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: haven't got to that point yet to I'm still trying

650
00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 3: to work on myself.

651
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 4: And so yeah, and.

652
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 2: What's going on with you trying to take us out? Man?

653
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: You start your own podcast?

654
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 4: What's going on trying to take your It was an accident.

655
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 3: It was an accident, to be honest, So I was

656
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: so when I left YouTube. I love so many people

657
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: like I still my subscribers are still there.

658
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,440
Speaker 4: I still have five million.

659
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 3: Plus subscribe left me, and I felt like, dang, that's

660
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: really bold, like for me to leave them behind, you know.

661
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 4: But I didn't want to go back to YouTube doing.

662
00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 3: Pranks for challenges or any of the things that I

663
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: used to do when I was younger, because that's not

664
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,960
Speaker 3: me anymore and that's out of style now, like does

665
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 3: that anymore?

666
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 4: So I wanted to find a way to go back

667
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 4: to YouTube in.

668
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: A more like mature way, where like they could maybe

669
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 3: hear my voice and my perspective of things more. And

670
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 3: so I brought my best friend on so it could

671
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: be more like a chitchat girl talk thing. But I

672
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,680
Speaker 3: don't know why I called it a podcast because once

673
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: I called it a podcast, people start running with it.

674
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 3: And now it's a podcast, like you know, and and

675
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,360
Speaker 3: now we're about to get like a podcast trainer, and

676
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 3: like I'm like, oh, this is getting serious and people

677
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 3: already reached out to like buy it, right, and it's

678
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: not even like but I don't.

679
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 4: I ain't trying to do that, Like I.

680
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 3: Just want to wait and I guess work on it

681
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 3: because we ain't even like we don't even know we

682
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 3: got to speak on topics of this trending and stuff.

683
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 4: I don't really know how to do that. We just

684
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 4: talk about, right, girl talk.

685
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: But it's a balancing that because you're a singer, not

686
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: your podcast, but you're also a mom. Yes, right, that's

687
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 1: a full time realist job job out here, Like even said,

688
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: you just can't get up in tour without feeling guilty

689
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:40,920
Speaker 1: because there were the kids, Like how have you been

690
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: able to balance stuff?

691
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 4: Man?

692
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 3: My last tour, when I went on the mary Ja tour,

693
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: that was the first time I ever left my kids.

694
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 4: At home and I was boohoo crying. Wow, I was

695
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 4: so sad.

696
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: I didn't want to leave them because but you know,

697
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: they're in school, so they got to go to school.

698
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: But there was a time when when I was pregnant

699
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 3: on my first tour, I was like eight months pregnant,

700
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 3: and I had my three year old with me and

701
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,640
Speaker 3: I didn't care, Like I ain't care.

702
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: I would bring them if I could, but they got

703
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: to go to school to school. So it's it's.

704
00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 3: Really a I'm going to try to tour like at

705
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 3: a time where they're not in school, maybe like summer,

706
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: but I really like the fall tours. But it's a

707
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: it's a lot because they're getting older now and now

708
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 3: they realize like when I'm not there, and I don't

709
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: want them to grow up saying, you know, Mama didn't

710
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: raise me, the babysitter did or the nanny did, like

711
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 3: I want to raise my kids.

712
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 4: So that makes it very tough. Yeah.

713
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: Is your oldest son a fan of the music? Is heap? Yeah?

714
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah CJ.

715
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 1: He is.

716
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 3: And my youngest eight eight and four. They're about to

717
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 3: be five and nine, so January and February. Yeah, but yeah,

718
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: they know it. I think my youngest son is going

719
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 3: to be a producer or like a singer.

720
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 1: Ok, yeah, you got the bug getting already.

721
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's very smart. My youngest and like he's so

722
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: weird because I'll do it on purpose.

723
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 4: I'll like go up the key the scales of singing, and.

724
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 3: Like if I do the wrong key, you'll be like no,

725
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 3: like that's not the right one. He knows his keys

726
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 3: like and he'll keep restarting something if he's just really

727
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: gifted when it comes to music.

728
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 2: I think that's something you said in the podcast about

729
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 2: how you think it went viral a little bit about

730
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 2: how it's different with your parent you have kids. Like

731
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,239
Speaker 2: women that are single have way more freedom to do

732
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 2: certain things, and you have so much responsibility to balance

733
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 2: those things out.

734
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy, like I said it. I said, I

735
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 3: envy women a little bit with no kids, but you know,

736
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 3: sometimes they mvs because we have kids, and sometimes you

737
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 3: want what you can't have at the moment, or what

738
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 3: you don't have not cant But yeah, it's very hard.

739
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 3: Like I don't I've never really gotten a chance to

740
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 3: know myself. So I'm still trying to learn myself because

741
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 3: I've spent my twenties having kids.

742
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: How challenging is that to share so much of your

743
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: life to the world.

744
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: It's not as challenging. I'm like an open book I

745
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 4: have to really watch.

746
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 3: Myself with oversharing stuff. Even when it comes to talking

747
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 3: to strangers, sometimes, like you get into a good conversation,

748
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: you start just oversharing. So I've always been a person

749
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: that talks a lot, like tell my business a lot,

750
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,560
Speaker 3: and I really need to slow down and do that.

751
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 4: But it's not it's not a challenge.

752
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: But I think what the most challenging part is like

753
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 3: when you tell your business and then people come back

754
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 3: with all of these opinions.

755
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 4: About it or like what they their theories of what

756
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 4: may have happened.

757
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 3: Because even though I tell my business, sometimes I don't

758
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 3: tell everything. So sometimes people will come with what they

759
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: think really happened, and then I want to say, so bad,

760
00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: what really happened, but like I can't because I can't.

761
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 4: Or shared or whatever.

762
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 3: So that's probably the most challenging thing is when you

763
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: want to correct something but like it's none of their

764
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 3: business anyway.

765
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: What's your take on a new generation where it seems like,

766
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 2: you know, you broke through to social media, but it

767
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: seems like we have a no generation now want to

768
00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 2: be famous and they want to be streamers. They want

769
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 2: to kind of break through that way, Like is that

770
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 2: concerning like that so much is influenced by that culture.

771
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 3: My son wants to be a streamer, my oldest son,

772
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: and honestly, it's like it's I don't it's okay, you know,

773
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 3: it's it could be toxic because a lot of the

774
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 3: things that like for my child, like I really don't

775
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 3: want him to see a lot of things that happen

776
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 3: on social media. It's too late, he already seen it.

777
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 3: But I think it's a blessing and a curse.

778
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 4: I think that for singers like me, it's tough because

779
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't Sometimes I don't want to get on TikTok.

780
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: I can dance, or sometimes I want to make What

781
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 3: if I just want to make a song that's like

782
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 3: a little slower pace, Yeah, but it don't make, but

783
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 3: it don't go viral on TikTok because it's slower paced

784
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 3: or it's not trendy. Like I'm sorry, Like I'm not

785
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 3: that kind of artist, Like I don't. That's why I

786
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 3: do take me a long time to drop, which I'm

787
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 3: going to work on that. But like I want my

788
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 3: stuff to be perfected and like mean something, and nowadays

789
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: everything is like microwave and my stuff be baking in

790
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 3: an oven, you know, But I think it is challenging

791
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 3: when it comes to like because you know, the labels

792
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 3: also like nowaday, you know, they don't take an artist

793
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 3: from ground up. You already have to have a platform,

794
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 3: and then they'll take you from like maybe that level

795
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 3: to you got to meet them in the middle.

796
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: Now.

797
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 3: So it's like even with me leaving YouTube and actually

798
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 3: even YouTube.

799
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 4: People don't watch long winded videos anymore.

800
00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: They want TikTok, and so now I have to like that.

801
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: I'm even learning something new in that. Like it's very

802
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: hard for me to not just do a vlog like

803
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,359
Speaker 3: along Winter and I have to put everything in like

804
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 3: thirty seconds.

805
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 4: That's crazy.

806
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I don't you know, I have trouble

807
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: doing that. I'm trying to work on it.

808
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 1: But it's interesting because it's like you mentioned, you have

809
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: like five million subscribers on your YouTube page. By I

810
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 1: guess a label standard you're developed, but you still like

811
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,759
Speaker 1: have this kind of like development stage that you're going

812
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 1: through at this particular time. Yeah, I have to.

813
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 3: Learn new stuff every day with the social media and

814
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: everything like that. They be on me about doing content,

815
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 3: but like I be wanting to enjoy my stuff, I

816
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 3: have to record. I have to make sure I take

817
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: my phone out and record everything. Like if I go

818
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 3: to a spa, I have to do a self love

819
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 3: spa and put my song on there and like put

820
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 3: self love on the music on there.

821
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: But I have to.

822
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 3: Before I lay down and get it back bessage, I

823
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 3: got to record the bed and like set up the

824
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 3: I think it's real funny, like and I see people

825
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 3: setting up the camera and then they go walk past

826
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 3: it like or the camera and like turn on the shower,

827
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: like I've done it before because it's what you gotta do.

828
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 3: But I think it's it's just crazy what the world

829
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: come to.

830
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 4: It is grit. It's cringe.

831
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 2: Just on the artist side, like because we looked it up.

832
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: Your certification game is pretty strong, got a lot of

833
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: a lot of goals, Like but I guess you saying

834
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 2: like you don't but seem like even with the song

835
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: with Big Sean, it doesn't feel like you're chasing hits.

836
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: So trying to like heavy handedly make force a hit.

837
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: I don't chase them.

838
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: I almost got to that point where I was trying

839
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 3: to chase a hit, and that's when I lose passion.

840
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 4: I just like I remember I had an A and R.

841
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 3: Named Jeff and when I you know, he was like

842
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 3: really trying to get me to you know, create the

843
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 3: you know, urban.

844
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: Music, because it's true. If you get a.

845
00:37:57,320 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 3: Number one on urban, it like change, it changes the

846
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 3: trajectory of like your career. And I have been very close,

847
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,280
Speaker 3: but I haven't got a number one on urban yet.

848
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 3: But I'm not an urban artist, not an urban artist

849
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 3: like when I'm an R and B artist, like I'm not.

850
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,960
Speaker 3: I have to compete with so many rappers and so

851
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: many popular singers that like, I don't think I'm the

852
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: most popular singer, like maybe on social media I'm a

853
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 3: little bit more, but when it comes to other artists

854
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 3: like my peers, I'm not the most popular. So whoever

855
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 3: is the most popular this song is probably gonna get

856
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: to number one quicker than mine. And I just dang,

857
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 3: I just forgot the question question.

858
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm not yeah, I'm not chasing that.

859
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 3: But what I tried to for a minute and I

860
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 3: lost passion and then I didn't like the music.

861
00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: Interesting. Do you feel like there's two worlds, like the

862
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 1: youtwo world, the social media world, and like the traditional world,

863
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: like with people having traditionally behind a five, Like, do

864
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 1: you feel like it's a divide?

865
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it is. It's definitely a division there.

866
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: And I feel like also people that work nine to

867
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:18,920
Speaker 3: fives or regular people sometimes look at us differently or

868
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 3: like as maybe more privileged or whatever because we're like

869
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:27,239
Speaker 3: in the spotlight, and so we don't get to have

870
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 3: regular emotions or feelings or we don't get to express

871
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: it because.

872
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 4: We should be grateful that we have. Who told me that?

873
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: I think I was what Kendra g on my hour

874
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: release day and she was like if it helps. Regular

875
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 3: people don't look at us as like regular. That's why

876
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 3: when we express ourselves about certain things, they tell us

877
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 3: to just kind of shut up and deal with it

878
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 3: because you're a celebrity or you know, or you're known.

879
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: And I guess anyone that has their life on social media,

880
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:58,920
Speaker 3: they're looked at as like.

881
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 4: On a pedestal.

882
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: And sometimes people on social media lives is not even

883
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: there yet, you know.

884
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: But even as far as audience retention, like do you

885
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,799
Speaker 1: feel like the YouTube fan of Queen Naja is the

886
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: same fan that listens to your music?

887
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,959
Speaker 3: Maybe there are some people that say that they only

888
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: know my music and they they caught me right when

889
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 3: I you know, medicine, and they don't know my YouTube stuff.

890
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 2: That's me.

891
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 3: And there are some people that have been on me

892
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: from ground up, like when I first first, even before YouTube,

893
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 3: and those people they're more likely they know my music

894
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 3: as well because they probably follow everything.

895
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 2: Right.

896
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: I know you've been following this artist for a long time,

897
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: ain't Marie? Oh?

898
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love her.

899
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:51,719
Speaker 1: Have you finally met her?

900
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 4: I met her over the phone. She was supposed to

901
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 4: come on my podcast and she probably will still come,

902
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,959
Speaker 4: but something going on with our babies were moms first.

903
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 2: Okay.

904
00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 4: I can't wait to meet her though.

905
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 3: But we talked a lot about other things besides music

906
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:10,959
Speaker 3: on the phone. I think she talked to me about

907
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: a holistic doctor for my kids. And you know, she

908
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: has a book club and everything on YouTube, so I'm like, girl, you.

909
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 4: Could teach me some stuff ouside.

910
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 3: But yeah, I met her and I told her if

911
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,800
Speaker 3: she ever wants to, you know, do some music stuff,

912
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 3: and we could do it. I think that would be

913
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 3: another full circle moment for me.

914
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,480
Speaker 1: What was about Amory that you gravitate too?

915
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: When you when I was little first of all, I

916
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 3: just thought she was so pretty. Like I used to

917
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:42,080
Speaker 3: watch one on six in Park and all the shows

918
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: a lot, and she would come on a lot with

919
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 3: her hit records and stuff like that, and I just

920
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,040
Speaker 3: wanted to be her and I wanted to look like

921
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:51,440
Speaker 3: her when I grew up, you know, as a little girl.

922
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 3: I don't know why, but I always want to grow

923
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 3: up faster than my time. I couldn't wait to grow up.

924
00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,280
Speaker 3: And so like just looking at her, that's a woman

925
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 3: that I wanted to be. Like, She's the one that

926
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,800
Speaker 3: made me want to be in the music videos and

927
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 3: and just she just had such a unique sound back then.

928
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: Fake love. That's so many bands on running through it, like.

929
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 3: Yeah I did Yeah, I did that on that was

930
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,919
Speaker 3: like homage, you knowing homage to her. Right, some people

931
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 3: are like why'd you Why did you just come up

932
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 3: with your own? But I did that on purpose?

933
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: Like yeah, no for really?

934
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: Yeah?

935
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: Are the people still blaming Queen Nacha? Are they over it?

936
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:28,319
Speaker 4: I think people are over it now.

937
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 3: I think the reason why it's over is because like

938
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: I indulge in it too much, and it was like

939
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,000
Speaker 3: all joke is over it. She's like onto it at first,

940
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 3: when I used to let it bother me, they kept

941
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: doing it because it was funny.

942
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 4: But I don't really care no more so it's nothing

943
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 4: to really. I mean that people. I've seen people still

944
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 4: do it, but like very few.

945
00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, you pulled the eight mile on them, like you

946
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: owned it.

947
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: Yeah.

948
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 3: It was so stupid. It was like one of the

949
00:42:52,440 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 3: stupidest things ever. I don't even understand how that came about.

950
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four. So get the album twenty twenty four?

951
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: What's what's the future? Hole, What's what's next? Queen?

952
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:03,640
Speaker 4: Should I overshare?

953
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:15,319
Speaker 3: Maybe before I start creating more music. There's something I

954
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 3: want to do first to like change or expand on,

955
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: like my team, and I want to get that right.

956
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 4: First before I start.

957
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: So hopefully if that goes well, then I mean it's

958
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: gonna go well, but yeah, it's gonna go well, not

959
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 3: hopefully it will. Then I can start doing music and

960
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 3: working with so. Do you guys know who No Idea is?

961
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: Right? Never heard of him?

962
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 4: I love Dion.

963
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 3: He's actually gonna start helping me with my next and

964
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 3: he actually signed me to Capitol when I first got

965
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 3: so he's the reason why I went there and signed.

966
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,359
Speaker 3: So I'm really looking forward to working with him a lot,

967
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 3: a lot, and you know, bringing me because one thing

968
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 3: about him, Man, he made me trash my whole first album.

969
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 3: He didn't make me but like my whole first album

970
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:14,279
Speaker 3: critics like he you know, and the music was and

971
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:15,280
Speaker 3: I now understand.

972
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,960
Speaker 4: I look back, like, dang, I'm so glad that I

973
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: listened or whatever.

974
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 1: I mean.

975
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: He didn't tell me to do I don't want nobody

976
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: think he made me do it. But from the feedback

977
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: that I got on the first batch of songs, it

978
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 3: was more so not It was more so about the

979
00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 3: like production of production, not my music or anything like

980
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 3: that or my what I wrote about.

981
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 4: But I take his.

982
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 3: Opinion very very seriously obviously, So I'll be glad to

983
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 3: work with him on some new music and connect me

984
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 3: with the people I should be connected with when it

985
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 3: comes to like other artists I should be working with

986
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 3: or producers or anything.

987
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 4: So that's next.

988
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,239
Speaker 1: That's so looking forward to. Man, we ever really got

989
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: nothing from no Id Sin's like for before on a

990
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: prominent level like that.

991
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: So I know he works with Snow a lot too.

992
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 3: Snowgrah definite love her. Yeah, So yeah, that and then

993
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: also just outside of music becoming more and more of

994
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 3: like a business woman clothing line, right, I don't want

995
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 3: to call it a clothing line peril the more and

996
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 3: so like, yeah, cozy, comfy, because I just I'm big.

997
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,319
Speaker 3: I don't like wearing heels like I like to be.

998
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: I want to be comfortable but also cute.

999
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 4: So that's what my.

1000
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, comfy and cozy, that's what's going to be based around,

1001
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 3: like lounge e not lingerie or anything like that, but

1002
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 3: just super comfortable. And I gotta find that uniqueness though,

1003
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 3: because everybody can have anyone can have a lounge line up.

1004
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 4: Working on that too.

1005
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking the time meantime after the butterflies though,

1006
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: man stream that stream that you you said, buy it too?

1007
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, by it told me I really need to

1008
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: you know, I hate this word train, but like encourage

1009
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: my supporters to you know, if you really support me,

1010
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,280
Speaker 3: then buy it. You know, like we take ten dollars

1011
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: all the time and go buy a combo meal or

1012
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 3: like spend it on some throw it at.

1013
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: Something like if something that you really support and want

1014
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,040
Speaker 4: to listen.

1015
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 2: To, you know, purchase streaming streaming and by it streaming

1016
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 2: by I'm saying yes, sir.

1017
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 4: Thank you, Quinn, thank you for having me. I really

1018
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 4: appreciate it.

1019
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, rap rate all podcasts. Yeah. Rap Radar Is.

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