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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning.

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Speaker 2: Breakfast Club Morning, everybody's stej n v jess Hilari charlamage

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Speaker 2: the guy.

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Speaker 1: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest.

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Speaker 3: In the building, Big motherfucking tank Tink is here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Tink.

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Speaker 4: Good morning.

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Speaker 1: How are you feeling.

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Speaker 4: I'm feeling good, y'all. I'm feeling refreshed.

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Speaker 5: Why are you dropping winters diaries fives in the summer

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Speaker 5: for people to cry to all summer long.

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Speaker 3: They need supposed to be outside having a good time.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yes, my ladies needed Listen, my ladies need it.

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Speaker 4: You know when this diary can drop in the spring,

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Speaker 4: the summer, the winter, you know when it comes. It's

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Speaker 4: just that, it's just that type of music. It can

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Speaker 4: drop anytime.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, How are you first.

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Speaker 1: To ball them?

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Speaker 4: I'm well, Charlae Magne, thank you for asking.

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Speaker 1: Still on the road.

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Speaker 4: Still on the Roadko, Yes, I'm excited, y'all. I'm on

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Speaker 4: tour right now with Eko the Magic Our Tour, and

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Speaker 4: that's been such a vibe, such a blessing to be

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Speaker 4: opening for my favorite artists. Of course, of course R

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Speaker 4: and B Girls, No Janey is the blueprint, but this

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Speaker 4: is an Arena tour. So this is so big for

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Speaker 4: me and my fans.

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Speaker 1: It sells my daughter. She loved it.

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Speaker 2: She went to the Barclay show Yes Okay you Coila,

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Speaker 2: Ray and Janney, and she said it was just dope.

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Speaker 2: She said it was just like a huge women empowerment show.

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Speaker 2: It was just it was just a vibe the whole night.

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Speaker 2: She said, she loved it.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I feel like all my ladies were getting our

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Speaker 4: life every night on tour and we're releasing all that

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Speaker 4: toxic energy. You know, we were just feeling the vibe.

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Speaker 5: I need you to break some nothing you just said

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Speaker 5: is the blueprint for the R and B ladies. I

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Speaker 5: never heard that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I grew up listening to Jenne Ego back in

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Speaker 4: her like mixtape days. This is before albums on YouTube

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Speaker 4: or albums on Apple Music. Janet paved a lot of

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Speaker 4: the way for a lot of girls.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah the sound content was it sound? I also think

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Speaker 4: just the content, you know, the way she was approaching

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Speaker 4: her music stuff she was talking about out. Her first

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Speaker 4: record was called Wait No More. That kind of took

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Speaker 4: me over. But yeah, Janee, honestly she does it for

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Speaker 4: the girls.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know Tick was on the show, because I

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Speaker 1: would have called she was on the show.

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Speaker 2: I would have called Tack for tickets because I needed

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Speaker 2: my daughter wanted to go and I had to get tickets.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, I don't know anybody on the show.

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Speaker 2: But I heard the show was I heard the show

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Speaker 2: was amazing. Now we got to talk about you knew

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Speaker 2: mixtape whin it's Diary five.

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Speaker 5: I don't even like to call when the Diary mixtapes.

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Speaker 5: He used to be like albums. The used to be

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Speaker 5: like soundtracks to these young ladies lives.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of pain in that.

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Speaker 4: Yes, this is the first album of Winn's Diary. It

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Speaker 4: started as a mixtape back in twenty twelve, so you

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Speaker 4: can imagine just how long it's been since I've released

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Speaker 4: the Winnes's Diary. My last one was in twenty sixteen.

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Speaker 4: So this is the fifth edition of Winnes's Diary. The

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Speaker 4: girls did know me from treat me.

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Speaker 3: Like somebody somebody that was one of Diary one, the.

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Speaker 4: Original authentic days, like I say, mixtape days. I feel

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Speaker 4: like that's why my fan base really grew. So it's

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Speaker 4: just very special to my day one.

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Speaker 2: Are you still going through the pain now because we

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Speaker 2: heard a lot of pain in what fifteen sixteen songs

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Speaker 2: you put out there.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and that's what it is. It's a diary, y'all.

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Speaker 4: So this album is much different than the others. There's

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Speaker 4: a lot of pain. There's a lot of story telling

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Speaker 4: and honesty, things that I don't like to talk about

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Speaker 4: all the time, and that's what makes it special. It's

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Speaker 4: just raw and uncut. But I'm in a much better space.

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Speaker 4: I wanted to wait to drop this album till now,

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Speaker 1: Could really until you got in that space.

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Speaker 4: Exactly, y'all. Till I was in that space, had to

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Speaker 4: do some healing, had to do some like I say,

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Speaker 4: refreshing of myself. And I feel so much better now

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Speaker 4: that I'm able to drop it in a space where

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Speaker 4: I'm not just angry and upset. It's more so like

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Speaker 4: reflecting and I'm teaching and I'm trying to tell my

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Speaker 4: girls what to do and not to do.

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Speaker 2: And that was it a bunch of relationships or just

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Speaker 2: one relationship? Because you said it since twenty sixteen? Was

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Speaker 2: it a bunch of messed up relationships?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? I pulled from everything, y'all. I poured from old relationships,

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Speaker 4: new relationships, things I'm going through and sitting in at

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Speaker 4: the moment. But this album, honestly was I feel like

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Speaker 4: just me revealing what happened to me in the past year.

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Speaker 4: So a lot of a lot of the stories are fresh,

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Speaker 4: and that's why it's just it's just so it's just

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Speaker 4: so triggering, and I think, you know, we need that

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Speaker 4: in R and B. I'm not trying to sugar coat anything.

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Speaker 3: Oh.

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Speaker 5: I put you in the same boat tank as Mary J.

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Speaker 5: Blige and Keisha.

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Speaker 4: Cole and that's movie.

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Speaker 3: Thank you trying to make Sadly you make the best

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Speaker 3: music that you're going.

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Speaker 4: Through Sadly is great.

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Speaker 5: That's crazy crazy, it's sad that when you heard you

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Speaker 5: make some powerful music.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, the best music to me comes from my pain

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Speaker 4: and I appreciate that that market for me. I think

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Speaker 4: the girls we relate to it, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: I'm not the artist that's trying to be bubblegum. And

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Speaker 4: you know, I'm not a pop artist. I come from Chicago,

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Speaker 4: the streets of Chicago.

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Speaker 3: Quean a Chicago, do you herb. We'll just called you,

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Speaker 3: thank you.

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Speaker 4: My brother. Yeah, my perspective is different, and that's why

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Speaker 4: this album important, y'all. You know, I know it's girls

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Speaker 4: in the trenches that's going through the same things that

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Speaker 4: I've dealt with, and every day ain't sunny. So when

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Speaker 4: this diary is for my real.

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Speaker 5: Ones, I need to know what the studio session for

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Speaker 5: Songs about You was like, with you and somewher together

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Speaker 5: drunk off the killer, venting about dudes, like what was

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Speaker 4: You know what? I wish I wish we were. I

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Speaker 4: crazy schedule. I love my girl, Summer Walker. She is

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Speaker 4: lot of times artists we have to send records through

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Speaker 4: the email and we get on the phone and chop

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Speaker 4: it up. So I recorded that record. I had two records.

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Speaker 4: I sent her Stressing and songs about You. She really

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Speaker 4: liked Songs about You, and like I said, say, she

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Speaker 4: sent it back. It was a very easy process for Summer.

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Speaker 4: She's a girl's girl, so I just appreciate her. A

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Speaker 4: lot of people try to pin us, you know, they

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Speaker 4: try to compare us a lot our music and our styles.

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Speaker 4: So it was really really dope to come together.

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Speaker 3: So what was the what was the inspiration for that song?

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Speaker 4: Was it.

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Speaker 3: Argument with somebody? Were you mad? Like did you go

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it has the summer you know. The song

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Speaker 4: is really about when you're in the club or wherever

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Speaker 4: a drink and you start thinking about one person and

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Speaker 4: it's always you know, sometimes it's the toxic one, but

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Speaker 4: it's always one person you call. And that's why that

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Speaker 4: song really hits home because it's summertime, we outside, our

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Speaker 4: having our vibes, and it's always one person you want

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Speaker 4: to go home with, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: Tell me what was the her record about? Like what

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Speaker 5: I want to know? What huh inspired that record?

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Speaker 3: What did you say? What did you.

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Speaker 5: Say to the brother that he goes hell?

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Speaker 4: No? Really triggering for me, it's not laughing too hard,

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Speaker 4: But my ladies understand, you know these day and age

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Speaker 4: men are quick too, you know.

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Speaker 1: Huh what was the handy? Did you ask Hi where

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Speaker 1: he was? Or let me see your friend?

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Speaker 4: You can hear you can get here, you know. I

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Speaker 4: like to I like to be real in my music.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what does it for me when it's honest

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Speaker 4: and I was going through a period of time I'm

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Speaker 4: asking questions, what's going on, what we're doing? Where you

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Speaker 4: with it? And yeah playing this is hunh damn. So yeah,

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Speaker 4: that day is home for a lot of women relationships.

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Speaker 4: I feel like me and you know, it's very hard

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Speaker 4: for y'all to be honest out here. So huh is

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Speaker 4: a lot of times the response.

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Speaker 3: When you think about Hans sometimes I really might not

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Speaker 3: have heard you.

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Speaker 1: That's a lie.

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Speaker 3: That's a lie.

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Speaker 1: Second to think about what your aunts are gonna be.

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Speaker 1: So that home gives you that little second.

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Speaker 4: Please exactly envy, That's that's what it is.

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Speaker 1: You you who changed black man.

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Speaker 3: Change were supposed to be teaching.

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Speaker 1: We done did that in our twenties.

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Speaker 4: He's right, a lot of times you're thinking about what

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Speaker 4: you want to say. Yeah, hurt me, so let me ask.

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Speaker 1: So I got to ask. So when it comes to

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Speaker 1: all us, how what kind of man is tink looking for?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Because you get sexy in here and you tell about

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Speaker 1: you tell you know what you what you want a

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Speaker 1: man to do to you sexually, But you also talk

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Speaker 1: about all these toxic relationship it seems like you're looking

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Speaker 1: for the toxic.

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Speaker 4: No. Never, we're running from the toxic this year, y'all.

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Speaker 4: For me, it's it's really about being honest and true.

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Speaker 4: I think in twenty twenty four, man are such liars.

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Speaker 4: Come on, man, man are so quick to lie. So uh,

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Speaker 4: it's then boiled down to being honest. You know. I

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Speaker 4: like man and securing himself knows what he wants, isn't

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Speaker 4: afraid to vocalize that in the beginning. And for me,

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Speaker 4: I'm from Chicago. I like a man that has, uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, just a strong demeanor. I love a stand

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Speaker 4: up guy and like I say, y'all will be honest.

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Speaker 4: A lot of girls just on somebody that's gonna be

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Speaker 4: real to them and not not play with their feelings.

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Speaker 5: I feel like you've been searching for love for a

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Speaker 5: long time. When I think about Whening Diary one wait.

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Speaker 4: A minute, a minute.

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Speaker 3: It feels like the whole series is human.

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Speaker 4: King all my life. I think I need to say

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Speaker 4: that too. It's so hard to find love when you're

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Speaker 4: really passionate in your career. So it may seem like

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Speaker 4: I'm looking for love, but Honestly, I'm just so grounded

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Speaker 4: in my music. I don't have time to date, and

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Speaker 4: I wish I did, so I just want to say that,

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Speaker 4: like I'm not looking for anything, but but you are.

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Speaker 5: You know, do you think guys be intentionally trying to

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Speaker 2: Yes, because that's it's it's a total difference. It's not

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Speaker 1: That has a lot to do with on both sides.

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Speaker 3: You would date a nice, hard working.

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Speaker 4: The hardworking, honest man.

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Speaker 4: I think. I think the industry, like I said, it

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Speaker 3: Okay. Now let's get to it. Which one of these

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Speaker 5: Is it stressing? Is it blessed Me? Don't Scratch Me?

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Speaker 1: Is it hit and lick?

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Speaker 3: Does it make it make sense?

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Speaker 4: Which the main listen? I feel like the entire album

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Speaker 4: And that process was different for me. It took a

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Speaker 4: We had hard days where he had to walk out,

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Speaker 4: and that's just what it is. I couldn't. I couldn't.

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Speaker 2: Did y'all have to have a conversation before, because I mean,

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Speaker 2: How was that conversation? And who put that together? Where

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to take take the emotion out of it.

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Speaker 4: Whatever I can give, If it's ten, that's the best

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Speaker 4: I can't you know, I can't be around you listening

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Speaker 1: When did that happen? When did you make that.

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Speaker 2: Call to be like, look, let's put the bullshit to

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Speaker 1: How did that happen? And what was that call?

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Speaker 3: Like?

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Speaker 1: Did he call you? Did you call him? Was it management?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he actually reached out to me, and it took

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Speaker 5: Is it true that he asked you for two million

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Speaker 4: Well, I will say that we did have a contract

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Speaker 4: and that's that's where I was at faut at. You know,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna ask I was doing the album because

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Speaker 1: Right, Oh yeah, there's a lot.

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Speaker 2: Of songs that very intimate, very sexy gives you put

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Speaker 2: you in that diary. Did y'all get to a point

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Speaker 2: where it rekindled anything after going through all that at all?

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Speaker 4: No, I haven't been in that space for hit Maker

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Speaker 4: for a long time. And that's the that's the gag

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Speaker 4: that everybody doesn't know. Like I've been so focused on

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Speaker 1: It's always that I want that old thing back on

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Speaker 1: both sides.

440
00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:13,280
Speaker 4: Absolutely, But I had to learn. That was a learning

441
00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 4: lesson and I think for me that's the biggest gift.

442
00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,280
Speaker 4: Like every album, every year, I'm getting smarter, like, hey,

443
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 4: I know my next venture, I know what to look

444
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,639
Speaker 4: out for. I know when to say no or I

445
00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 4: know when to hold back. So I needed to go

446
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 4: through that. You know, I want other women to watch

447
00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,720
Speaker 4: me and and and learn from my mistakes, you know,

448
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 4: I'm here to be a lesson and a blessing, So

449
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,880
Speaker 4: I don't have any regrets. What happened happened. I'm stronger,

450
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:46,919
Speaker 4: I'm smarter. I feel like now I know just how

451
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:47,359
Speaker 4: to play.

452
00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 2: Would you put your your next relationship on the ground

453
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,000
Speaker 2: like like this, because you guys.

454
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:53,240
Speaker 3: Thank you would just.

455
00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 5: Return when you get this nice ups guy right when

456
00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 5: you're not gonna put that on the.

457
00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 4: Nota post his arm, the back of his head or

458
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,800
Speaker 4: you know. I think privacy is so good. Privacy helps

459
00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,240
Speaker 4: so much, y'all. When the world knows it's it's it's

460
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:19,120
Speaker 4: an extra weight. So to my ladies, y'all, please save

461
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 4: it for you, keep it, keep it private. It's it's

462
00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,320
Speaker 4: so much peace in privacy.

463
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 5: So when you said on Instagram that you were fighting

464
00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:29,240
Speaker 5: so hard to release this album, was that the fight?

465
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:31,200
Speaker 3: Was that the only.

466
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,399
Speaker 4: Absolutely? Uh, just the just the battle with with you know,

467
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: people on the outside, you know what I'm saying, giving

468
00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 4: me their advice and you shouldn't be working with him,

469
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:43,840
Speaker 4: or you know what I'm saying, just scrap the album

470
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 4: start over. I had a lot of dark thoughts about

471
00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:49,119
Speaker 4: the album that sometimes I had to you know, I

472
00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 4: second guessed it and hey, y'all, should we just go

473
00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 4: another route or you know? That's what I mean when

474
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,040
Speaker 4: I say I had to fight. I had to push

475
00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,119
Speaker 4: through those you know, those moments where you're you're not sure,

476
00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 4: and like I say, I really have to stand tall

477
00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 4: and just be strong and confident, even though the world

478
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,600
Speaker 4: you might have had a different feeling at the time,

479
00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 4: I had to push through.

480
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 5: That was I don't want to say embarrassing, but what

481
00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:14,080
Speaker 5: was the thing that came out that you weren't most

482
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 5: proud of?

483
00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 3: I remember they said you put hands on him.

484
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 4: Of course, that honestly was the peak for me. If

485
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 4: anybody knows me, y'all know, I'm not even the internet

486
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 4: type of person. I go live maybe twice a year,

487
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,159
Speaker 4: so to be live doing that it did strike a

488
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 4: nerve in me because who I am as a person

489
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,520
Speaker 4: is so much better than that. And I'm very private,

490
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 4: so it came as a shock. But I'm a real

491
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 4: woman and I want people to know that life is.

492
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,680
Speaker 3: Full of ups and downs, lows and high.

493
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 4: Lows and highs. Thank you, Charla Mane, thank you. That

494
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,160
Speaker 4: was perfect. But yeah, life is full of loads and highs,

495
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 4: and I think it gave people just an insight of,

496
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 4: you know, my reality. I'm not just a perfect person.

497
00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,639
Speaker 4: I never want to come across like I'm perfect. So

498
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 4: I don't regret it. But that was like a peak

499
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,040
Speaker 4: moment that I look back and I say, I'm gonna

500
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,200
Speaker 4: learn from that and do better.

501
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,639
Speaker 2: Last question about that, I just before you move on

502
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 2: the time of y'all, I think you were out the

503
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 2: country and ran into each other. Were y'all recording at

504
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,439
Speaker 2: that time, or y'all would just just happened to just

505
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 2: it just you're out the country, just happened to see

506
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:27,160
Speaker 2: each other, just like happenstance.

507
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 4: No, we just happened to see each other. I was

508
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: there for my friend's birthday, so I had no idea

509
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 4: he was in the same country as me. We had

510
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,080
Speaker 4: no clue, and we it was just ironic.

511
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 5: Did you look at that for a moment and be like, damn,

512
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:46,480
Speaker 5: this is divine. Maybe it's meant to be for a second,

513
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:48,400
Speaker 5: let's pit a second.

514
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:51,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I guess so, I mean it had to

515
00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 4: happen for me to learn, So maybe God was trying

516
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,359
Speaker 4: to pivot me. So, like I said, it might have

517
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 4: been divine timing. So that I could see what was

518
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 4: really happening in the streets.

519
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,960
Speaker 2: Well, y'all still talking at that time, y'all still trying

520
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320
Speaker 2: to work it out, and he just happy with another girl.

521
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,159
Speaker 3: Enough. I can see her visibly upset.

522
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,159
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's triggering, y'all. Like love it hard. I love hard,

523
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 4: and people, you know, when you when you're really invested

524
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 4: in somebody, you expect them to love the way that

525
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,919
Speaker 4: you love them. So it's it's a triggering situation. And

526
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 4: I'm just glad that I'm in this space now. Like

527
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 4: I say, y'all, I've grown so much. It's it's really

528
00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,640
Speaker 4: I want to put it behind me. And it's sad,

529
00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,520
Speaker 4: like when you attach yourself to somebody, everything comes back up.

530
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 4: Every every interview is going to be a question. So

531
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 4: I'm trying to move forward in the most peaceful way.

532
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 4: I really do wish him the best. I hope he is,

533
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:51,400
Speaker 4: you know, I hope he's well. And I'm moving forward.

534
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 5: When you when you talk about the song, loads and highs,

535
00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,359
Speaker 5: have you healed from the things you you say in

536
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 5: that record, because you say still up on my grind,

537
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,000
Speaker 5: can't get caught up in new feelings, trying to move forward,

538
00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 5: but my heart's still healing for real, but you've been

539
00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 5: getting colder by the days.

540
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,879
Speaker 3: POPA thirty for the pain. Are you out of that space?

541
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 4: I think anybody that goes through something traumatic you can

542
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 4: be out of a space. But there's moments where you

543
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 4: have your days. So I'm healed, but hey, you know,

544
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 4: tomorrow something I might read something or I might see

545
00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,199
Speaker 4: something that triggers me. I am so human, y'all. I

546
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,719
Speaker 4: don't have a filter on me, so I'm still healing.

547
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:31,920
Speaker 4: I'm in the process.

548
00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: What putins in a happy space? What makes you happy?

549
00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 2: What makes you calm and relax?

550
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 4: And you know it makes me happy seeing my fans

551
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 4: and actually touching my fans when I'm on the road.

552
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 4: I'm the most commonest, nicest. It gives me so much joy, y'all.

553
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 4: Like when people relate to your music come up to

554
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 4: you and say thank you, I needed that song. It

555
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: makes everything worth it. And also just seeing my music elevate, y'all.

556
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,720
Speaker 4: This is my first time I hitting number one gradually.

557
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,199
Speaker 4: You know what I mean that that takes a lot

558
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,320
Speaker 4: for me. I'm an independent artist. I don't have a

559
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 4: crazy backing force behind me. Everything is done with my

560
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 4: team and that means the most to me when you

561
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 4: kind of see your work being paid off, because we

562
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 4: work hard as women. We work so hard, and I

563
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 4: don't want to say harder than guys, but I'm gonna

564
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 4: say it. We work ten times harder than the guys

565
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 4: just for a little piece of respect. So when you

566
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: see your work being paid off is the ultimate, the ultimate,

567
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 4: you know, joy.

568
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 3: I also think people don't realize how successful you are.

569
00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,680
Speaker 5: Like you a gold artist, you got gold plax, you're

570
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,199
Speaker 5: right for mad people, Like you're on tour, you just

571
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 5: got a number one, like you got a very successful career.

572
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:47,320
Speaker 4: I think, No, I'm so blessed.

573
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,439
Speaker 3: Oh yeah you too, thank you.

574
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 4: I'm so blessed. And it's just because I'm not super

575
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: super flashy or I'm not on the grim trying to

576
00:26:55,840 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 4: put it in their face every day. Yeah, I'm blessed,

577
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,560
Speaker 4: and I want I want people to know, like it's

578
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,679
Speaker 4: cool to be humble. Everybody don't need to know, you

579
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, your bank account, like I like

580
00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 4: to appeal to the trenches. And for me, you know,

581
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 4: I want to be relatable forever. I don't want nobody

582
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: to think like hoin you on your level. I'm with you,

583
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, So I'm humble with it.

584
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 5: I wonder how that works for you though in this era,

585
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,320
Speaker 5: because we are in an era where everybody cares about

586
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 5: everything except for the music.

587
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: Even though you're super successful just because of your music,

588
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,640
Speaker 3: they do want you to be live. They do want

589
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 3: you to be posting.

590
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 4: Pics like it's the gift and the curse. For me,

591
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 4: I'm not distracted by that, like y'all, I get my

592
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: joy from from other other things. Instagram does not run

593
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 4: my life. And honestly, putting your business out on Instagram

594
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 4: every day isn't even smart anymore. People are pocket watchers,

595
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 4: they're envious, their haters. You have a lot of people

596
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 4: that will try to come around you for the wrong reasons.

597
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 4: And I want everything genuine, so I don't I don't

598
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 4: mind playing, you know, And the humble route is working

599
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,760
Speaker 4: for me. Like I say, I'm blessed, and that's what

600
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: it is. You know, I don't need approval from nobody.

601
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 2: Do you feel like people don't see the work that

602
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 2: you put in or look past you, right, because the

603
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 2: way you came in the game you came is so strong, right, Yeah,

604
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: And it was like, I mean you you didn't did

605
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: damn it? Everything you didn't work with every artist you

606
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: wanted to work with, you probably didn't rooting for every

607
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 2: artist you you platinum, your your gold, You're on tours,

608
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:29,879
Speaker 2: sold out a readers, by the way, and this is

609
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:31,879
Speaker 2: and when we say sold out, they say, we just

610
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,200
Speaker 2: put the tarp on the third right on a third level.

611
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 2: I mean sold out, sold out. So do you feel

612
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 2: like people look past you at times?

613
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 4: I do. I do. I won't lie and be like nah,

614
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm getting all my j just too.

615
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 4: There are a lot of days where I want to

616
00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 4: be included in a conversation. And for me, that is

617
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 4: what keeps me working. Like I'm not satisfied yet. I'm

618
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,720
Speaker 4: not throwing in a towel yet. I still got work

619
00:28:56,760 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 4: to do. But in the last few years, y'all, honestly,

620
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 4: I feel like the attention is there. My audience is

621
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 4: growing the flowers I'm being given, so I don't mind

622
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 4: taking the stairs, you know what I'm saying. The hard

623
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 4: work is giving me so much discipline. So when when

624
00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 4: you do see me getting that Grammy or getting that award,

625
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 4: you'll know it's really hard. Work. Nobody paid nobody to

626
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: do this, you know what I mean. Nobody's spoon fed

627
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: me this. I really worked my ass off to make

628
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: it here, So I don't mind it. A lot of

629
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 4: people come up, and it's just as quick as they

630
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 4: come up, you know, they can come down. So I'm

631
00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 4: not mad at my process. Every artist is different, you know.

632
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 4: I'm a motivation for the girls just like me that

633
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 4: ain't running around trying to make it in one day.

634
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 4: You know, like, let's part severe, y'all, let's put the

635
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 4: work in. I don't mind.

636
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 5: That's why I was trivial when you said that about Jenaico,

637
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 5: because I slew to Geniago.

638
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: I just never heard anybody say that.

639
00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 5: But I know a generation of girls who look at

640
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 5: you like that, Like you see all of these girls,

641
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 5: they'd be like, tank that deal, Tank that deal. And

642
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 5: it's not even just you know, fans, it's actual stars

643
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 5: like I see Scissors say that.

644
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 3: I've seen Cardy say that. I've seen a bunch of

645
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: people just give it up.

646
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 4: To you so much love. But Jane was that for

647
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,320
Speaker 4: me early early in the game. When Janey was you know,

648
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 4: first drop in music. It's not like she was just

649
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 4: everywhere on every radio station, but her music resonated. So

650
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 4: that's how I feel about my music. It's it's not

651
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 4: about a look an image. It's about what touches you

652
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 4: and reaches you. So that's why she's to me like

653
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 4: the blueprint for me because she never had to sell us,

654
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 4: so she never had to, you know, step out of

655
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 4: her boundaries to get to where she at. So yeah, Janey,

656
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 4: she owes the flag for me.

657
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Speaker 3: All I think about.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I love Jenne, but one of the biggest

659
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 5: lines that got to eat the booty like groceries, that's all.

660
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Speaker 3: You know. It's kind of like she made that like

661
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 3: ass he can go up big in the community, you

662
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Speaker 3: know what I mean.

663
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 4: Lawrence, And that's what it's about, y'all. Influence, it can

664
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Speaker 4: come in different ways.

665
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Speaker 2: Do you feel like the comparisons help for her, right,

666
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: because I think a lot of times we compare compare artists,

667
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 2: and I think it hurts them, like because I remember

668
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 2: when you first came out, they were like, she's the

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Speaker 2: next Lauren Hill, but she's the female jay Z And

670
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 2: it was like, why do we put those comparisons?

671
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: Is tink?

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00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: She's absolutely you know, it was too early first of all,

673
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: to even say something like that, I think it was

674
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: a statement about Aliyah, and like you said, Lauren, and

675
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:31,719
Speaker 4: when you have a lot of work to do it,

676
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: you know people are gonna jump on that attack that.

677
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 4: So let the artists be an artist. Everybody is different.

678
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 4: I'm trying to be who God made me to be.

679
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 4: Although I do take I do get influence from them,

680
00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 4: I am certainly not the next alia I am. I

681
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 4: am Tink. So yeah, that can. That can definitely, you know,

682
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: hurt a person's growth because people are then compare their

683
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,320
Speaker 4: stats and their numbers and it's like, okay, okay, well

684
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: she ain't making no progress, but in reality, you're doing

685
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:03,720
Speaker 4: it on your own terms.

686
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Speaker 3: I agree.

687
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 5: More importantly is the feeling, right, like if somebody says

688
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:11,000
Speaker 5: she's the next Laurence Hill or she's like a Leyah.

689
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 5: We know how we felt when we heard those records.

690
00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 5: So it's like, now I'm looking for that feeling. So

691
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 5: the music might be good, but if you don't give

692
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,480
Speaker 5: me that feeling, I'm gonna feel let down. But it

693
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 5: can never give you that feeling because you was at

694
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 5: a whole different time in your life.

695
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: When you was on a lead.

696
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 3: This is tink right right, that's it. Why do you

697
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:30,880
Speaker 3: keep the pencil writing in it? That Like that's like

698
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 3: your little waye light of flick.

699
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 4: I love that, Yeah, it actually is. It's like the

700
00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: the brand for Winnes's Diary, my first mixtape. I came

701
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 4: in with the pencil, so you know, as soon as

702
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: you hit a pencil, you know it's a bachelor. It's

703
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 4: about to get.

704
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Speaker 3: Real, pretty girls.

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00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:49,880
Speaker 5: That feels like an affirmation song, encouraging women to prioritize,

706
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 5: prioritize themselves and self love.

707
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 4: Toxic relationships absolutely, that's why it's the last song I

708
00:32:56,280 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 4: wanted to leave my girls with uplifting message after all

709
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 4: the toxicity and the album. It's like, never forget who

710
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 4: you are and don't settle for less. And you know

711
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, if a man doesn't see your worth,

712
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 4: he gotta he gotta go in. I feel like that

713
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:16,080
Speaker 4: song resonates because as black women, we want to be

714
00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: told we pretty and we want to hear that we

715
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 4: worth you know, we worth something. So yes, pretty girls,

716
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 4: pretty girls. We don't settle, We don't slip, we don't trip.

717
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Speaker 3: And you don't you don't you don't get on social

718
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Speaker 3: a lot.

719
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Speaker 5: But you clearly pay attention because you got a lot

720
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 5: of TikTok TikTok TikTokers on the album.

721
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely, I know the era we're in, social media

722
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 4: is running the world right now, so I made sure

723
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 4: to include some some voice notes that I felt were impactful.

724
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 4: But absolutely, I think TikTok however, I can reach you.

725
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna reach you if I gotta go to TikTok

726
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: route if I have to, you know, if I have

727
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 4: to come see you on tour in person. You know, however,

728
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 4: I can reach my girls. I'm a get there.

729
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 5: And you asked on Instagram, you ask people which one

730
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,440
Speaker 5: the winner's diary was their favorite.

731
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: Yes, so people.

732
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:08,520
Speaker 3: Got to ask you which one is your favorite? Which

733
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 3: one resonates with you?

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Speaker 4: Oh, y'all to five? The number five. I feel like

735
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 4: this is such progression. You know, my early mixtapes I

736
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 4: was in the basement, audio was clipped, It was a

737
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 4: lot of static. I think this album is so polished

738
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: and it's so raw, you know. I tried to make

739
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,800
Speaker 4: sure that I made an album about all my phases,

740
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. The downs, there's the highs,

741
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 4: there's the record player for my girls they like to get. Wow,

742
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 4: it's such a you know, just a well cultivated album.

743
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 4: I touched on everything in this one, so that's why

744
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Speaker 4: it's going to be my favorite.

745
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Speaker 3: This is the last one.

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Speaker 4: Never Oh Okay, I feel like I still have more

747
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 4: to say. You know, they really been pressing me for

748
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 4: a deluxe, so I got some more work to do.

749
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 4: But it's never done for me, and my story will

750
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 4: never be done. I'm gonna take this to the grave, y'all.

751
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 4: Like I'm one of those artists. I feel like I'm

752
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 4: I'm I got so much more in me. I'm just

753
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: now touching that surface. So I'm excited, y'all. This is

754
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:09,760
Speaker 4: not my last one of Diary.

755
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 3: So if you find love, what you will absolutely will

756
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 3: the pin change.

757
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 5: Will those songs be about? Will they be like the

758
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: greatest love songs we ever heard?

759
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, the pencil is still going to be there. Okay,

760
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 4: But I love to make love songs. My earlier win

761
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 4: is Diaries. There was so many love songs. H two O.

762
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 4: I like that'll always be so yes, they on the way.

763
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 4: I just need some motivation, so somebody put me in that,

764
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 4: put me in that field, put me in that you

765
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 4: know that space.

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Speaker 3: Do you ever feel pressure?

767
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 5: Because I ask guys this all the time, like when

768
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,359
Speaker 5: guys make all these love making records and they talk

769
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 5: all this shit about what they're gonna.

770
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 3: Do and they getting the better of that.

771
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 5: When you writing grip Tight and H two oh and

772
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 5: all that, are you, do you feel the pressure to

773
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 5: live up to that m I.

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Speaker 4: Don't feel any pressure, but I will say, you know,

775
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 4: it's the definitely it gives people like something to look

776
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 4: forward to, you know, because there are some some songs

777
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 4: on that that are freakingki. So I think it's just, uh,

778
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 4: it's excites you know whoever I'm with. Not pressure for me,

779
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 4: but I guess pressure for them to live up.

780
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 3: How often? How often has the pressure busted the pipe? Fast?

781
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 4: Yeh?

782
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,359
Speaker 1: Tink new mixtape? When the Diary five is out?

783
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 4: Right?

784
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 1: Now, what's song you want to.

785
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 4: Get right now? I want to hear my new single

786
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 4: songs about You Featuringer.

787
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,760
Speaker 2: I will get that on and I think we should

788
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 2: get hurt on too, OHNs Fire Fire much much love

789
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,479
Speaker 2: to Tink always man, you know think I'm a fan

790
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 2: for a long, long, long long time.

791
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 4: Absolutely. I must say Charlemagne has always been as much

792
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 4: ship people talk about Charlamagne. He is a good brother

793
00:36:57,680 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 4: to me. Thank you, and I really want to come

794
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,360
Speaker 4: in you for all checking in on me outside of

795
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 4: radio music. I just appreciate that it's not a lot

796
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: of people in the industry that you know on a

797
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 4: personal level care. So I appreciate you.

798
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: Thank you, Tink all right, But it's the Breakfast Club, Tank,

799
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: thank you so.

800
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 4: Much, thank you all. I love y'all.

801
00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 3: It's the Breakfast Club.

802
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: Good morning, wake that ass up here in the morning.

803
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 3: The Breakfast Club