1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:07,160 Speaker 1: The volume. Daniel Craig returns as Ben Waugh Blank in 2 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,399 Speaker 1: Wake Up dead Man, A Knives Out Mystery with an 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: all star ensemble cast for his most dangerous case yet. 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: When young priest Judd du Plentasy is sent to assist 5 00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 1: charismatic fire Brown Mond senior Jefferson Wicks, it's clear that 6 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: all is not well in the Pews. Written and directed 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: by Ryan Johnson, critics are calling it the sharpest knives 8 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Out movie yet. Watch Wake Up dead Man, A Knives 9 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 1: Out Mystery and select theaters November twenty sixth and on 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:43,880 Speaker 1: Netflix December twelfth, rated PG thirteen. All Right, it's always 11 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:47,720 Speaker 1: weird doing the Sunday Show after Thanksgiving because there's like 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: thirty two topics and nobody really cares about discussing rams Panthers. 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 2: Do they. 14 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: Not really listen? I think we've Let's just address a 15 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: massive college football story that you and I care about. 16 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:11,279 Speaker 1: So college football, what you saw Lane Kiffin do feels 17 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: a little different now because of the College Football Playoff. 18 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: You used to leave a program, you know, and they 19 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: were going to a bowl game. They weren't playing for 20 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: a national championship. And I don't think Ole Miss was 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,679 Speaker 1: going to win a Natty. But it wouldn't have shocked 22 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: me with Lane Kiffen if they won two or three 23 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: games and finished in the top two or three. So 24 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: it does feel a little gross, But big picture is 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: if you think about, if you really think about what happened, 26 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 1: the NCUBA four or five years ago was rigid, and 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: you went from that, the rigidity of the NCUBLEA to 28 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: pure unadulterated HGH infused capitalism and there's no boundaries, and 29 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: it's the wild wild West, just like the wild Wild 30 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: West in the eighteen hundreds you had territorial governors and 31 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: commissioners of conferences. But everybody's in their own self interest. 32 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: And so listen, this is harbaughto Michigan, Lane Kiffn to LSU. 33 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: It's massive, it'll be controversial, it'll be great for the sport, 34 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: and one of the little guys gets burned. I don't 35 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 1: lose sleep on this stuff because I've been watching it 36 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: my entire life. But wasn't this bound to happen if 37 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: you hired Kiffin? Yeah? 38 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 3: I just think there's no easy way to leave a 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,920 Speaker 3: school anymore, you know. I mean these schools now are 40 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: paying fifty million dollars for a guy to go away 41 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: in the middle of October, so you have lsu out 42 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: to poach your coach for the last month and a half. 43 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:39,399 Speaker 3: That's abnormal. You know, these buyouts got so extreme. Were 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 3: like you and I kept saying, well, these guys are safe. 45 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: Turns out they're not. They're getting bought out left and right. 46 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 3: I also think part of the problem for Lane is 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 3: he's a controversial and polarizing figure, and he's really done 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 3: a lot to change his image, right to the documentary 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: that he did. You just look at him physically, what 50 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: do you think he's lost thirty pounds he's politically, he's 51 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 3: talked a big game how this place changed his life, 52 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 3: gets them into the playoffs, and then leaves them for 53 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: essentially their big brother, who. I think it's hard. I 54 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 3: understand where their fans are mad, but like I understand 55 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 3: both sides. I just think these are these things are ugly. 56 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 3: It's pretty rare. Remember a couple of years ago when 57 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 3: Sabin retired right after the National Championship Game and Debor 58 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 3: just left Washington and it was a pretty seamless you know, 59 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 3: from Washington Alabama because everyone was done. You're seeing, you know, 60 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 3: this cycle all these Penn State doesn't even have a 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,720 Speaker 3: coach that we can argue whether they are a top 62 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 3: ten five I don't know where they land, but they 63 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 3: could easily steal a guy in the next couple days, 64 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 3: and that could be weird. Who's to say that it's 65 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 3: not a top fifteen program that they steal a guy from. 66 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: So it's just it's a lot different in the NFL. 67 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: Like you said, there are regulations, there are rules. The 68 00:03:49,800 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 3: New York Giants can't steal Sean McVeigh, but LSU can 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: steal Lane Kiffin. Honestly, it looked like kind of easily. 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and Rick Patino noted this on social media. 71 00:03:59,520 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: He said, it's a calendar Is that. 72 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: Actually, Rick Patino? I almost didn't even believe. I thought 73 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 3: it was like a fake account. I didn't realize it's 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: actually Rick. 75 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, And he said it's a calendar issue. He goes, 76 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: I wouldn't build my team to be a number one 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: seed with a chance to win national championship and you know, 78 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 1: a day before the tournament March madness bail. He said, 79 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: you couldn't do that. It's a calendar issue, and college 80 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: football allows it for years and years. I was on 81 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: my radio show on TV show John, I'm sure at 82 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: least once you heard me say this, it's an eight 83 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: billion dollar sport with no CEO. It was boxing like 84 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 1: of course, every boxer was out for itself and every promoter, 85 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: Bob Aerm and Don King ran boxing, the SEC commissioner 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: ran the sport. And then you have ESPN and Fox saying, guys, 87 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: it's an eight billion dollar industry. We're going to make 88 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: this more like pro football. We're going to have like 89 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 1: an AFC and NFC, the SEC in the big ten. 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: So I don't. I don't. If you are a college 91 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: football program and you hire Lane Kiffen and you don't 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: understand the reality of your calendar and understanding this can happen, 93 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: then you're naive. And I can feel for an Ole 94 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: mis fan, but this is a calendar issue. And I 95 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: said last week, aggressive men, if Wall Street did not 96 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: have a regulatory board, you would see if you didn't 97 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: have regulations at companies, if we didn't have an IRS, 98 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: what do you think it would be like for aggressive 99 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 1: men in this country? They would be taking big swings 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 1: and doing something, doing many things that felt skeevy and unethical. 101 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,600 Speaker 1: So until college football in the NCAA put up boundaries. 102 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,600 Speaker 1: I mean we put up some boundaries in the portal. 103 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,720 Speaker 1: We put up some boundaries in NIL. There's no boundaries 104 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: on coaches leaving. 105 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 3: I think what people have a problem with, you know, 106 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 3: it's mainly the ole miss Fans's not like LSU fans 107 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 3: care at all. They're a static is that we have 108 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 3: this team who he has a chance to win a 109 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 3: national championship. I don't necessarily agree. They don't play any defense, 110 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 3: but then this guy kind of plays us. It plays 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 3: us would be strong. But as he says in this 112 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 3: outgoing statement that the ad wouldn't let him coach, Well, yeah, Lane, 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: no school worth their salt that has any respect LSU, Alabama, Georgia, 114 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 3: Ohio State, Texas. It's very understandable why they wouldn't let 115 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,799 Speaker 3: you coach. But then you steal Charlie Weiss's kid, who's 116 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: with Lane the offensive mastermind. Well this is an offensive 117 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,280 Speaker 3: juggernaut as a program right going into this playoffs. Well 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 3: I remove Lane and I remove Charlie Weiss. If I 119 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 3: am not like, if I could remove a little emotion 120 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: and take a deep breath, I'd go we have no 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 3: chance in the playoffs, especially if we get a decent matchup, 122 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 3: because they're going to get dropped in the playoffs. You 123 00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 3: are ruining our dream season. I mean it's you know, 124 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 3: in college more than the pros. Right, a bad program 125 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 3: in the NFL, if they get the right quarterback, the 126 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 3: right coach, they can immediately be good. The Rams are 127 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:01,400 Speaker 3: a clown show. They getigh, look at them the last 128 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 3: ten years. Right in college, you get the right coach, 129 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 3: you gotta strike while of the irons hot because that 130 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 3: guy's probably gonna leave. But now, I think, you know, 131 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 3: fans would say, well, what the hell's the difference. We're 132 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 3: paying these players, we're giving you money for the coaches, 133 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 3: we're doing everything ls you tried to do, and we're 134 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 3: kicking their ass every year. We beat Georgia last year. 135 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: Why do you need to go? And I do think 136 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 3: that's a fair argument that we're gonna learn. Is there 137 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 3: a big difference? And I know you said about I 138 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 3: think you know Lane would probably. 139 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: Agree with you. 140 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: It's the defensive guys. Like I can get the offensive 141 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: guys to come. But for every Walter Nolan that I 142 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 3: got last year, it's gonna be very hit or miss. 143 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: For if I'm at LSU, if I'm at Georgia finmat 144 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: Ohio State, I could get five or six of those guys. 145 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: And then I think the other area that people have 146 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 3: a hard time with is like Nick Saban. You know, Nick, 147 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: you fired Lane for causing problems inside your program and 148 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: it does feel very and listen, I have a lot 149 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: of respect for Jimmy Sexton created this business for nothing 150 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 3: and became what he became. It's not his fault that 151 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: academia struggles with negotiating with these guys, and it's a 152 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: it's a one sided fight, but it clearly feels we're 153 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: in the NFL, there's a lot of pushback if you 154 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: want to negotiate with Howie or you want to negotiate 155 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: with the forty nine, like, it's not easy. And with 156 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: these schools, it just seems like one couple guys have 157 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 3: all this juice and are just playing puppet master within 158 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 3: the in the sport. And that gets back to what 159 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: you said, there's no rules, there's no regulations. 160 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: Bob and Don King take over the business. 161 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: They's happened because UFC passed them right, because they got 162 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 3: a data white. Well, I think we're still a while 163 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: a while away from college football. Kind of having that 164 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 3: structure though, right, I mean, it doesn't feel like it's 165 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 3: tomorrow coming in. No. 166 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: I mean, listen, if you look at pre Kiffen, Matt 167 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: Luke ed or Jeron Houston Nutt, Hugh Freeze cheated like 168 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: a you know what. The bottom line, it was a losing, 169 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:51,840 Speaker 1: irrelevant program. If they knew Kiffen was going to burn them, 170 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: if they knew it going in, then he was going 171 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: to do this. They'd still take fifty five and nineteen 172 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: relevance and the number one scoring offense country by a 173 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: wide margin. They would have signed up for it today. 174 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: So I don't have any their last SEC titles nineteen 175 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 1: sixty three. It's an irrelevant program. And Lane may I 176 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:18,599 Speaker 1: watched four miss games the last four this year for 177 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: last year. Maybe I'd watched the Egg Bowl every year 178 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:26,680 Speaker 1: for a half. Like, I'm sorry, you were an irrelevant program. 179 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: Hugh Freeze cheated to make you sort of interesting. But 180 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: Nick Saban said he stopped recruiting his last couple of 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: years in Mississippi because Hugh Freeze was cheating so bad. 182 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: Players were getting paid at the end near signing day, 183 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: and they were losing him so I mean, you would 184 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:44,680 Speaker 1: have signed up for fifty five and nineteen when you 185 00:09:44,720 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: had the coaching opening if you knew he was If 186 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,320 Speaker 1: I said number one offense, top five program, fifty five 187 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: and nineteen, he'll bail on you, you'd a signed up 188 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: for it. 189 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:59,560 Speaker 3: You know, you used to have that statement that the 190 00:09:59,720 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: thing make smart men dumb or women in money. And 191 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 3: I think the hard part is for the program is 192 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 3: that this's not really money. 193 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: Right. 194 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,200 Speaker 3: Ole miss was paying him ten million, they were willing 195 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 3: to pay him fourteen. It's almost a you know, a 196 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 3: revelation from Lane in his belief that your program simply 197 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 3: isn't as good as LSU, right, And I think that hurts, 198 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: and that's where you're getting it really like you're in 199 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 3: the playoffs. But big picture, you know, if I'm the reason, 200 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 3: and historically in college basketball and football, do you lose 201 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,720 Speaker 3: the coach, you're in major trouble. Like the guy that's 202 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,199 Speaker 3: replacing him. I remember when he was the off or 203 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator, Alabama was not going well as defensive coordinator, 204 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 3: and clearly they were in a desperate situation. But I 205 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 3: think over the next couple of years, relative to what 206 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: they've been if Ole Miss was a stock, you'd probably 207 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: short them, and you would probably buy stock in LSU 208 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 3: the next couple of years. 209 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's talk as we do this. It's 210 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. But Buffalo leads going away against 211 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers, and Aaron Rodgers got hurt. He got 212 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: smoked by Joey Bosa, bloody bridge of his nose left 213 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:19,959 Speaker 1: the game came back. You know, it's funny because Sean 214 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: McDermott and Mike Tomlin are both defensive coaches, and I 215 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: could make a strong argument that their message has sort 216 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: of worn thin, like three points in the first half 217 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: for Buffalo making a mistake down near the goal line. 218 00:11:35,559 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: It's like, guys, you got a veteran staff, you got 219 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 1: a veteran quarterback, you got a veteran left tackle. You 220 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: can't be making these mistakes. But I do. I look 221 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh right now, and they have no quarterback for 222 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the future. Aaron looks in cold weather, really old. Aaron's 223 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: letting go of that ball John so quickly. I don't 224 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: blame him. He doesn't want to get hit. He does 225 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: never run game. I thought this was a bad fit. 226 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: I said he should go to Minnesota or he should retire. 227 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: I never thought, you know, in warm weather early in 228 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: the season, but Mike Comlin's teams I haven't won a 229 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:14,080 Speaker 1: playoff game. I could be wrong. Eight plus years. They're 230 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: not a viable franchise. They get really bad at the 231 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: end of seasons. I don't know. I mean, I Buffalo 232 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:24,839 Speaker 1: just scored. It's going to be now twenty three to seven. 233 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: What do you do with McDermott and what do we 234 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 1: do with Comlin? 235 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think McDermott still. You know, these next whatever 236 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 3: five six games in the playoffs are going to be 237 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: huge form. I mean, as of right now, it's going 238 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 3: to be an uphill battle for them, just assuming that 239 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 3: New England wins on Monday Night to win the division. 240 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 3: They were heavy favorites at the beginning of the year, 241 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 3: not just to win their division, they had the best 242 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 3: betting odds with the Ravens to win the Super Bowl. 243 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 3: I mean, they have one of the best players in 244 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 3: the league. You know, I'd say Josh been a little 245 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 3: up and down this year. Part of that, to me's 246 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,320 Speaker 3: on the GM and I think when you look at 247 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: these two franchises, you know, Brandon Bean for the Bills, 248 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 3: like Coleman. It was inactive the last two games. He 249 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 3: was there essentially their first round pick last year, pick 250 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 3: thirty three, right they traded had. 251 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 1: A touchdown today that help he did? 252 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 3: He did, But I mean it's you're in a position 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: where you're still like teaching them life lessons a year 254 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,480 Speaker 3: and a half in. That's not ideal. I think the Steelers, 255 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:18,719 Speaker 3: I've been texting around the league obviously, Tomlin, I think 256 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 3: it's fair to say you're there seventeen years. Back in 257 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 3: the sixties, they would have said that's a long time, 258 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: let let alone modern day the Internet age, so it's unprecedented. 259 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 3: I don't think we're gonna see that very often ever again. 260 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 3: But I think their GM in their front office, you know, 261 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 3: it used to be with Kevin Colbert, the Steelers and 262 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 3: going back to the Bill Coward days, just always had 263 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 3: one of the best rosters in the league, right, defensively, 264 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: top to bottom. Offensively, they always had multiple piece I 265 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 3: always just had like super reliable people all over the place, 266 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 3: right and then star power that they don't even feel 267 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 3: remotely close to that. I actually gained a lot of 268 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 3: respect for Rodgers today. He's gonna be forty two in 269 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,319 Speaker 3: less than a month, he's out there with a cast 270 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 3: on his left hand, which that's a hand that used 271 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 3: to brace yourself. He's made hundreds of millions of dollars. 272 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 3: He does not need to be doing this. So I 273 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 3: give him a lot of respect for saying it's not 274 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 3: like he has a lot of equity with this franchise 275 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,280 Speaker 3: that he needs to try to earn their respect. So 276 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 3: he's trying. He's given them all they have. But Tomlin 277 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:16,719 Speaker 3: takes a lot of shit. Now I've been saying for 278 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 3: a while it's probably time for a breakup. If you're 279 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 3: Mike Toman, you go to the Giants, you would be 280 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 3: getting a standing ovation walking into that press conference. But 281 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: the front office in the GM, when you look at 282 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 3: the team, Cam Hayward's been there for a decade and 283 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: a half. That has nothing to do with this group. TJ. 284 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 3: Wat's been there for ten years. 285 00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 1: Right. 286 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: The talent on that roster and the philosophy of the 287 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: moves like you're trading for DK Metcalf, Like he's a 288 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 3: number two guys and you're gonna py him a hundred 289 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: fifty million dollars. Like what are you guys doing? No position? 290 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 3: I'm watching the Bears make some seventh round running back 291 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 3: go for one hundred and thirty yards with his eyes closed, 292 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: and you guys can't find a running back like you guys, 293 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 3: you're the guy you draft in the third round, can't 294 00:14:56,680 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 3: sniff the field? Your front office? Who is? I would 295 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 3: say the Steelers for a long, long time, just they 296 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 3: were the most reliable franchise, just doing it right year 297 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 3: in year out, for decade, my entire life. I look now, 298 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 3: I see, like got it. Something's off kilter there, and 299 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: maybe the family's getting a lot older, you know, it's 300 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: just things change. They're so rich now, maybe you lose 301 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 3: touch a little bit, have the same chip on your shoulder. 302 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 3: But to me, the talent on the rock and I'd say, listen, 303 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 3: it's like Buffalo we've talked about. This is some greatly 304 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: talented They had injuries today, missing some players, but even 305 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 3: when healthier, I would consider them the seven pass. 306 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: No. I mean the Lakers sold, it felt very mom 307 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: and pop. And then they bring in the Dodgers group 308 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: and it already feels they're getting rid of bus family members. 309 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: I think would the Roonies ever sell they feel? I 310 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 1: mean that division now has the Brown family, Mom and pop. 311 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: The Rooneys feel outdated, little mom and pop. Baltimore's got 312 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: excellent ownership and management throughout Eveland a bit of a mess, 313 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: although I like the coach, I like the GM, I 314 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: like the roster actually, but it's just watching this today. 315 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:11,560 Speaker 1: You have two defensive coaches. You know, it's seven three 316 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: or ten three and a half, whatever it was, and 317 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: it was like, God, there's just nothing creative. I mean, 318 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,400 Speaker 1: Buffalo basically, if you look at their game plan, they 319 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: just it was pretty clear they were just wanted to 320 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: get into a slug fest and they just kind of 321 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 1: figured they would over the course of time score. 322 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 3: Get to twenty points. You can't match. 323 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Us, That's what it felt like. It almost felt like 324 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 1: what Ohio State did against Michigan, Like that first half. 325 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: Ohio State was so conservative, and their take is, we 326 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: got better players, We're gonna win this game. It's just 327 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: going to take three and a half hours to win 328 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 1: the football game. So I you know, I feel like 329 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: I'm always beating up on the Steelers, But small market 330 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: Green Bay is so smart, so cutting edge offensive coaches 331 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: do a very good job in the sport of solving 332 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: problems in season. I've said this John A McVeigh a 333 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: read a Sean Payton. I think those guys. Shanahan has 334 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: done a great job this year solve problems middle of 335 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: a season takes a couple of weeks. I feel like 336 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: defensive coaches need an off season to solve problems. Pete 337 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: Carroll will need an off season, Tomlin McDermott. When things 338 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: go sideways, they don't rebound quickly. I mean you watch 339 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 1: Denver struggles struggle in their first half offense, then they 340 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:27,119 Speaker 1: play the Chiefs and they get on the board in 341 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:28,679 Speaker 1: the first half and they kind of clean it up. 342 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Ben Johnson has an identity. There are a 343 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: number one seed now Chicago. I mean the defense leads 344 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: and takeaways, the offense leads in rushing. There are number 345 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: one seed. These offensive coaches come in. Ben Johnson has 346 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: been tweaking this mother every two weeks, like you've seen 347 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: improvement and Pittsburgh Lee, you know. I feel like they think, like, Okay, 348 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 1: you play the season, then the season's over, and then 349 00:17:52,200 --> 00:17:55,119 Speaker 1: you take the wrenches out and you fix it. You're 350 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,439 Speaker 1: gonna fix it every week in pro football now, the 351 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: coaching's too smart. Yeah. 352 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 3: I think also the organization, like the way they view 353 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 3: football is the defense can carry us. And I still 354 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,439 Speaker 3: believe you need a good defense to win in college 355 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,479 Speaker 3: or the pros. But it's an offensive sport. I mean, 356 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: didn't save In say this a decade ago when he 357 00:18:12,320 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: hired Lan Kiff, and I had to adapt because of 358 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,640 Speaker 3: the rules. So you can't even the Texans. I mean, 359 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 3: the Texans have what looks like to be an all 360 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 3: time great defense. I mean, their defense is fantastic, but 361 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: if their offense plays like that that, they're not going anywhere, 362 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 3: even if they make the playoffs. And that's the one 363 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 3: thing I will say about the Bills is the FC 364 00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: does look pretty wide open. I mean, there are a 365 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 3: lot of random teams gonna make it that as long 366 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: as you got that quarterback, I think we'd both agree 367 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,919 Speaker 3: they would have a chance in every game. If the 368 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: pass rushers are healthy and Josh is healthy, they would 369 00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 3: have a chance. For the Steelers, I've been saying this 370 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: for the month. I mean, clearly they are. They have 371 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: been in a free fall for a month. I mean 372 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 3: ever since Flaco beat them on that Thursday night game. 373 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: They have not been good. But even last year, you 374 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:57,480 Speaker 3: say one hundred, but this is even starting earlier this year, 375 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 3: the attrition of the age. Listen, it's just it's not 376 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,199 Speaker 3: Tomblin will probably assuming that. I mean they'll get a 377 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 3: divorce one of these days. It is an organizational thing. 378 00:19:08,080 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 3: And you bring up the Packers. They have a much 379 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 3: better front office. Gudikins I got news free. I know 380 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,440 Speaker 3: Rogers button heads with him, but he kind of was 381 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: right on that transaction. And he's pretty good at his job, 382 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 3: you know, like the power. I don't know football is 383 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 3: quite baseball, but your GM is pretty important because it's 384 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 3: not obviously the quarterback, but it's a lot of auxiliary 385 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: moves of you know, backup defensive linemen, who's your slot receiver, 386 00:19:31,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: who's your slot corner? You can make moves in season. 387 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 3: You know one thing, you know Howie has done that. 388 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 3: I think a lot of Lions fans go like, where 389 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:41,479 Speaker 3: are trades mids? You like, you can be aggressive now 390 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 3: in this modern day NFL. So I'd say the Steelers 391 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 3: just kind of ran into age attrition and just a 392 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 3: coach that you know, it's just time. There's nothing wrong 393 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 3: with that. Andy Reid was fired in Philadelphia. Ask him 394 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 3: how that turned out. 395 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: Today's show brought to you by our new presenting sponsor, 396 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet. Big News. Hard ro Bet now live 397 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: in Michigan, Michigan, congrats. Sign up today. Place your first 398 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: five dollars sports bet. 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Chicago twenty four Philadelphia fifteen. 426 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: Right now, Chicago's number one in rushing, number one in 427 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: the NFC North, number one in the NFC, number one 428 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: in takeaways. That's not just the roster. And he still 429 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,560 Speaker 1: has a quarterback who I think is a work in progress. 430 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: Who But again this goes back to Nick Seriani is 431 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: scheme dependent. Philadelphia has been spiraling this entire season. Offensively 432 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: has been an uneven mess. He can't fix it. Because 433 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the right oc Ben Johnson. We don't 434 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: even think the quarterback's a great fit. We didn't think 435 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 1: going into this season, Hugh. This defense, it's a magnet 436 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 1: for turnovers. 437 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 3: Nobody thought that they're number one of the NFL in takeaways. 438 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: We didn't even like their secondary. Jalb Johnson got hurt. 439 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,959 Speaker 1: We were like, they're screwed. No, they Nishan Wright. They 440 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: find all these guys now they like lead the NFL. 441 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: Their secondary is just pansy picking it off one handed catches. 442 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: So I mean, I think I was. I wrote this 443 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: down during the game that Ben Johnson's the best young 444 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: head coaching higher since McVeigh. That's what it feels like. 445 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: Like Shanahan was a great Higher. But Shanahan's been like 446 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: winning season, losing season, winning season, losing seasons in San 447 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: Francisco always had a heartbeat because it's got good ownership. 448 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 1: The Rams were with Jeff Fisher unwatchable, two double digit wins. 449 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 1: I still think Caleb's completing fifty eight and a half 450 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: percent of his throws. I still think this has so 451 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: much more room to grow offensively. 452 00:23:06,800 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: See I would say he's a combination of the two 453 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: because Shanahan was much more heralded as an offensive coordinator 454 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,959 Speaker 3: right with Atlanta. Where McVeigh was coaching in Washington, they 455 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 3: weren't winning as many games. He was like this shooting 456 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 3: star within the league, but everyone when he hired him 457 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: was thirty one. But that first year they were immediately 458 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 3: awesome and in the playoffs, you're like, what after Jared 459 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 3: Goff honestly looked like he was going to. 460 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,320 Speaker 1: Be out of the league his rookie year. 461 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 3: If I would have told you that going into December 462 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 3: that the Bears would be the NFC's top seed with 463 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: their quarterback throwing for under sixty percent of a completion percentage, 464 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 3: not a soul. 465 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 1: Would have believed you. 466 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: Right, that's the thing. They are winning all these games. 467 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:50,119 Speaker 3: Their quarterback's pretty inaccurate now thro the touchdown throw that 468 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: he made was like that was USC Oklahoma Heisman Trophy. 469 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: He still has some remarkable highlight plays, but he still 470 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,600 Speaker 3: misses a ton of just like random out routes overthrowing guys. 471 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 3: And it gets back to the thing that Shanahan did, 472 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 3: and McVeigh did this early too, because he had gurly 473 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:09,919 Speaker 3: he would just run the ball unlimited runs, just as 474 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 3: two running backs had forty carries in that game where 475 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 3: you watched the other night against the Panthers, Canalis, ric o'doudle, 476 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,560 Speaker 3: he had six carries. It's like, I know, the guy 477 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,480 Speaker 3: had like nine hundred yards coming into the game. It's 478 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 3: middle of October or middle of November. What are you doing? 479 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 3: Ben Johnson can't even relate. Shanahan can't relate to that. 480 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 3: They will just keep giving young McVeigh until he got 481 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 3: Stafford will just hand it off, handed off, handed off. 482 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,920 Speaker 3: They're your quarterback's best friend, and it makes the game 483 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 3: so much easier on Caleb, and then you can use 484 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,639 Speaker 3: Caleb's legs. But the running game that the scheme, I 485 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,200 Speaker 3: mean VIC Fangios making five six million dollars a year. 486 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: I mean they got Jorge Davis first round pick, Jalen 487 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: Carter first round, picked all their linebackers. I mean, they 488 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: got really good players up front, and they had no 489 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 3: clue what was cat. It felt like you know sometimes 490 00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: when you watch like a Navy, you know, coaches always talk, hey, 491 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 3: whenever you play one of those service academies, hard to 492 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 3: practice for him because you know the different misdirection and 493 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: they're chop blocking you the Eagles were just all they 494 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: didn't know where. It was like they were playing the 495 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 3: wing tee and you could tell early on, You're like, 496 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,600 Speaker 3: this is a pretty special game plan here from Ben Jon. 497 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,399 Speaker 3: He's I've been blown away. And I always say, like, 498 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 3: going from a coordinator job to a head coach, haven't 499 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: seen it firsthand. When I was in Philly, Sean McDermott 500 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 3: was our defensive coordinator. Andy Ree was the head coach. 501 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 3: When someone got in trouble, big Dom walked to Andy's office, 502 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 3: not Sean McDermott's. So as a coordinator, you just you're 503 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,639 Speaker 3: not dealing with so many other things in the building. Besides, 504 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 3: I'm not even talking football. And clearly he's able to 505 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 3: handle the pressure of this city, the divisions were. He's 506 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,560 Speaker 3: now beating really good teams, right, It's like, okay, who 507 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,680 Speaker 3: he's beating the Giants last couple of weeks, like that 508 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 3: Steeler game, even if they end up nine to eight, 509 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 3: that was a real win. And obviously the Eagles on 510 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 3: the road in Philadelphia a short week with Philly just 511 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,879 Speaker 3: coming off that loss, I mean to just I mean, 512 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: they worked them. I mean, that was they kicked their ass, 513 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: and that was honestly one of those situations where you went, 514 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 3: am I kind of out on Philly because something's off. 515 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 3: It does feel a little bit not quite as bad. 516 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 3: But remember a couple of years ago when they free 517 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 3: fell something. You can't have a working situation with aj 518 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 3: and Jalen having it be that public, that palpable, even 519 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 3: if like well, on the field, we just put our 520 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: head downs. Eventually that stuff carries over to other people 521 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,160 Speaker 3: and creates some sort of rift. 522 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,719 Speaker 1: Right. No, And the other thing is Greg co Sell ohs, 523 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,520 Speaker 1: he's truth serum. Greg co Sell watches film. He doesn't 524 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: really have strong opinions based on anything other than film, 525 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: and he always says this. The Philadelphia pass game is 526 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:43,280 Speaker 1: really very simple. It's not hard to defend. They just 527 00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: have great athletes and their throws Jalen Hurts can't make 528 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: because he can't see. So that's why this offense is 529 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: so uneven. So when Barkley Shakuon Barkley's not getting these 530 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,320 Speaker 1: run gaps, it becomes very Jalen Hurts dependent. Well, that's 531 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 1: a limited offense. Saquon Barkley's humming. Now it's second and three. Yeah, 532 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: the offense is better, but you put Jalen hurts into 533 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: have to throw situations. It's a simple offense. He doesn't 534 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: see some stuff. I mean, he's better than Tua because 535 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: he's more athletic, he's tougher, But there's limitations. And I 536 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: also think we go back to Nick Sirianni when he 537 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 1: got the job. I had two people, I just say, 538 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: what do you think? And they're like, he's not ready 539 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 1: to be a head coach. He needs to get great coordinators. Well, 540 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: he got Shane Steiken, and he didn't let Steike in 541 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: call plays. Remember that you do. They were awful, then 542 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: he gave it up. Then they were fine. Now he 543 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:45,520 Speaker 1: hires Brian Johnson, it's a disaster. Than he hires this 544 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,399 Speaker 1: his new guy, Kevin what's the last name Petula? But 545 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: Kevin Petula, Kevin Beetula obviously struggling with either relationships or 546 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: play calling. There's nothing Nick can do. Nick's almost got 547 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 1: an aggressive defensive coordinator mentality. He's not remotely close to 548 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,800 Speaker 1: a scheme guy. So to me, they have problems they 549 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: can't solve in season. Most great offensive coaches can solve 550 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,679 Speaker 1: their shit in season. I don't think Sirianni only solved 551 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: it with Shane Stiken when he just handed over the 552 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: play calling. So what are they gonna do? Do we 553 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: really think this team? I mean, John, this has been 554 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: a nine week, eleven week, twelve week issue. This isn't 555 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: going away. 556 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 3: The one thing they got going for him is I 557 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 3: did this after the Bears game. They still got the Raiders, 558 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: the Commanders, and the Commanders on the schedule, and even 559 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,560 Speaker 3: next week they play the Chargers on Monday Night, who 560 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 3: just have a lot of injuries and just are a 561 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 3: beatable you know, eight and fourteen. But to me, if 562 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 3: you lose to the Chargers, they do feel fickle enough 563 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 3: to lose. 564 00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 4: Danny. 565 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 3: You know, you could get beat to a random Commander game. 566 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, we saw it happen a couple of years ago. 567 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 3: So I would say next week, Monday Night football in 568 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:01,520 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, which I would guess we'll have a lot 569 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,959 Speaker 3: of Eagles fans there kind of must win, especially if 570 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 3: the Cowboys, because you got all the Cowboys don't have enough, 571 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, there's not enough space for them to catch up. Well, 572 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you beat the Lions and the 573 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 3: hottest team in the league. The Eagles lose on Monday Night, 574 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 3: then they got a short week against the Raiders, and 575 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, this pressure and it starts getting weird, 576 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: and these guys, it's gonna be hard for aj. I mean, 577 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 3: he's already not keeping his mouth shut. You know, during 578 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 3: the week he starts he's like, what do I even 579 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: care anymore? I'm not gonna be on this team next year. 580 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 3: And the thing in Philly, you know, they started. I 581 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 3: knew going into that game. I'm like, if this thing 582 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,480 Speaker 3: is like seven to six or something in the first half, 583 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 3: that crowd is gonna be on edge because they already 584 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 3: come in with apprehension that we're not actually that good, 585 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,360 Speaker 3: Like I know, we're the defending champs, but we feel 586 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 3: way off. And then when you start getting physically shoved around, 587 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: because the one thing you'd say Philly has they had 588 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 3: that stretch when fan Jo got a couple of players back, 589 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 3: it's like they got one of the best defense in 590 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 3: the league. And then you start getting worked on defense. 591 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 3: You go, well, we're gonna have problem if we're not 592 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 3: holding you, you know, to ten thirteen points, we're gonna 593 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 3: be in for it. And then all of a sudden 594 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 3: they're up ten to three, and you go the Eagles team. 595 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean if it wasn't, I mean they fumble a 596 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: tush push. I don't know they are in the story 597 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 3: of the game obviously was Ben Johnson. But I do 598 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 3: think that Kevin. But here's the problem. So you're gonna 599 00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: this season, you go eleven and six, you lose in 600 00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 3: the first round, you fire your offensive coordinator. You just 601 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 3: bringing another guy and you have you know, it's Jalen's 602 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 3: whatever tenth offensive coordinator ten years or whatever. The staff 603 00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: will be. It's like and you just hope you get 604 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 3: a Kellen Moore or Shane Sikein. But I don't know. 605 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: Well, you're saving on Sirianni's contract, so and the Jalen 606 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: Hurts steels very team friendly. So you probably go spend 607 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 1: three million dollars and you go you outbid people for 608 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 1: the best coordinator. San Francisco forty nine ers twenty six, 609 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland eight. The forty nine ers nine and four. Heading 610 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: into the latest buy in the Kyle Shanahan era, I 611 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: think it's a great time for a buy. These late 612 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:03,320 Speaker 1: buys are perfect. I have said this. I think the 613 00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: coaching staff of the year is San Francisco to be 614 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: nine and four. That's a good division. Even going to 615 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: Arizona has historically been tough for all the teams in 616 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 1: that division, always been tough, even as wonky and weird 617 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: and strangely owned and quarterbacked in coach. I know everybody 618 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: wants to talk about shadur. You know, they had two 619 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty three yards of total offense. That's about 620 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: what the Niners had. You know, Christian McCaffrey twenty carries 621 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: four catches. Brock Purty was more than solid. You know, 622 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland butchered a punt that helped a lot. But you know, 623 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: my take was San Francisco this year had been very 624 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: bad after wins, and I know you can roll your 625 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: eyes at Carolina, but they thumped him, and Carolina beat 626 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: the Rams today and Cleveland won last week, So you 627 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: can say what you want, but going to Cleveland winning 628 00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: bad weather not built for brock Purty, I was really impressed. 629 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 1: I feel like I have to reevaluate. I bet the 630 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: Niners for third. Now Seattle won and the Rams are 631 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: gonna win the division. Do you think San Francisco's a 632 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: playoff team? Oh? 633 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think the playoffs are set now. 634 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 3: Like I said, I think all three teams in the 635 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 3: West are clearly in ram Seattle, the Niners and and 636 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 3: I think pretty much if the Lions loose Thursday, it's 637 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 3: the Bears and the Packers, and that's in some more. 638 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:21,960 Speaker 3: Those are your three wild cards. 639 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: To me. 640 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,760 Speaker 3: The Niners today was an organization organization will win. I mean, 641 00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: the Browns are such a cluster, you know what I mean, 642 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 3: what an embarrassment of a franchise. It really And the 643 00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 3: forty nine Ers are the complete opposite. They're playing. Their 644 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 3: front seven is like a UFL team. I mean, all there. 645 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 3: They showed the all the guys on in reserve, I 646 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 3: mean Fred Warner and Nick Bosa may combined like fifty 647 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: million dollars. They're two of Fred's one of the best 648 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 3: defensive players in the league. Oh look, yeah, but both 649 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 3: of early this season looked fantastic. Before he toreds ACL 650 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 3: their first round pick they had, they were six to eleven. 651 00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: They had the eleventh pick was the kid from Georgia 652 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 3: towards ACL. 653 00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: He's six foot will. 654 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:01,959 Speaker 3: Two hundred and eighty pounds. I mean, so you we 655 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 3: were moving through. They're playing with Cleveland Ferrell, who they 656 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 3: let walk a couple years, who was on a practice 657 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 3: squad and he's flying around Sack and Shador. Meanwhile, he 658 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,719 Speaker 3: got Stefanski and Barry have this quarterback controversy with two 659 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 3: guys they've drafted the third and the fifth round, and 660 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are just clowning them in a 661 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 3: like you said, brock Purty has not been good in weather. 662 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: Even today. He's wearing something on his elbow that he 663 00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 3: heard a couple years ago against the Eagles because in 664 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 3: cold weather it kind of stiffens up. I'm like, did 665 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 3: he hurt his elbow? No, that's just a holdover from 666 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 3: his previous injury. It's like Jesus, you know. But in 667 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 3: Miles Garrett's coming off a game where he has twenty 668 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 3: five sacks against the Raiders, so you're like this guy, 669 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: Jim Schwartz, the stat was he was eight and one 670 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 3: against Kyle Shanahan is a defensive coordinator, head coach against 671 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 3: Kyle ShW It. 672 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Was my second favorite bet. I had San Francisco winning 673 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,640 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty. My second favorite bet of the 674 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: day was Cleveland plus five and a half, six points. 675 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: I thought it was going to be a dog fight. 676 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think franchises and this is what I 677 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 3: respect about Ben Johnson is you're either a tough coacher 678 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 3: or not. And not every guy is Jim Harbaugh or 679 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,399 Speaker 3: Mike Frable like an actual tough guy, Dan Campbell. It's 680 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 3: about the way you practice. To knock on Lincoln Riley. 681 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: It's like, how do you practice? 682 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 3: And you know you can be an offensive guy and 683 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: be a tough minded guy by the way you practice. 684 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 3: And the forty nine Ers, I've been going to their 685 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 3: practice for years, like it's just a tough, old school 686 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 3: franchise and this was a year where honestly they should 687 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 3: have been Like last year, Mac Jones has to start 688 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 3: seven eight games, prettiest turf toe. Look at the Bengals, 689 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 3: they lose Burrow for a large portion of the season 690 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 3: and their whole franchise just melts down. Like part of 691 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,840 Speaker 3: this is it's you're more than just one. This is 692 00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 3: a team game like you see today, Like you know 693 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,480 Speaker 3: it's not Shador, it's not Miles Garrett. You're a team 694 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 3: like you're kind of the special teams unit. You're dependent 695 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 3: on everybody, and I just think you just saw the 696 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, or we talk about this a lot 697 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 3: during the combine. You're like you can just tell these 698 00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 3: teams have no job, and this gap now is it's 699 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 3: probably like ten teams verse twenty. Yeah, and you got 700 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 3: the Browns who spend all this money, who got a 701 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 3: couple Ivy League gms and coaches just like they are 702 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 3: always like four or five wins. It's like, I don't know, 703 00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 3: maybe it's the owner the forty nine ers since they've 704 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 3: gotten Kyle really beside the one year last year, like 705 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,160 Speaker 3: they've they've been pretty consistent now and this year how 706 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 3: they're doing it now. They benefit from an easier schedule. 707 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 3: But man, I mean they beat Seattle and they beat 708 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:30,359 Speaker 3: the Rams this year. 709 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 1: I mean crazy, It's no I this has been if 710 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: this has been the year of coaching Mike Vrabel, Ben Johnson, 711 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,279 Speaker 1: Shanahan and Robert Sala. You've seen by the way Stafford 712 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: didn't practice before the season. This is the best Rams team. 713 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: Despite today's loss, mcvey's done an unbelievable job. So Rams 714 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: lost twenty eight thirty one. Carolina beat some thirty one 715 00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,000 Speaker 1: to twenty eight. Basically Rams had three turnovers. Carolina nine, 716 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 1: Bryce Young. You know it's fifteen for twenty. It didn't 717 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: make any mistakes. Stafford whose number one target now appears 718 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: to be Devonte Adams over Pooka at least in the 719 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,879 Speaker 1: end zone. The regression. I thought the Rams lost today. 720 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,800 Speaker 1: I was texting Jason mcintyren, like, you can't play seventeen 721 00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:22,319 Speaker 1: eighteen weeks without just Havy stepping in it, and it 722 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: was just all those turnovers coming into today. I think 723 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: Stafford had thirty touchdowns and two picks. That's like me 724 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: starting the year eighteen and one on my blazing five picks. 725 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 1: You're gonna do one and fours back to back, like 726 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: regression of the mean, I don't take much from it. 727 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: I think the Rams have it sewed up, and I 728 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,640 Speaker 1: think the Rams defense didn't play great. And I also 729 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: think the Carolina team we saw today and I watched 730 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: almost every snap of this game, they're six and six. Now, 731 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 1: that's the team I bet on getting a touchdown at 732 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,799 Speaker 1: San Francisco. But San Francisco and Sala handcuff Bryce Young 733 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 1: against a healthy defense. Today, Young moved to Baltimber three 734 00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: for three on fourth down. I mean, Caroline is more 735 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: than functional. Today's guests on the pod is Dan Farrah. 736 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: Dan's the director and producer of Age of Disclosure. It's 737 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:24,319 Speaker 1: currently on Prime Video. In fact, it's the number one 738 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,840 Speaker 1: movie on Prime and if you look at their lineup, 739 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: that's pretty heady stuff. Dan Farrah has made a movie 740 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:46,640 Speaker 1: that has altered my perception of intelligence beyond our borders 741 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: and beyond our capabilities. And when I watched Age of Disclosure, 742 00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:58,400 Speaker 1: and I'm not as cynical today as I was twenty 743 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: years ago. A lot of that's because of videos of 744 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: craft and technology that were clearly not capable of. And 745 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: so I thought, I want to spend an hour with 746 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 1: Dan Farrah. And many of you have seen it, probably 747 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,759 Speaker 1: many more of you will see it, and so let's 748 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:24,319 Speaker 1: start our interview. The first pop moment for me watching this, 749 00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: when I really sat back k I watched it twice, 750 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,560 Speaker 1: and then I've watched several interviews was when you went 751 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: and it was senior officials, highly credible people, many retired. 752 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: You went to Missoula or Missouri or California. You went 753 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:48,200 Speaker 1: to bases a great it was really like Google maps. 754 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,080 Speaker 1: You went in and zoned in on these bases and 755 00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 1: told stories. And these were people that were older. They 756 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:03,520 Speaker 1: were not hyperbolic. They almost felt as if they were ashamed. 757 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: They hadn't told this story earlier. They were That's what 758 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,200 Speaker 1: it felt like to me. They felt like, listen, I'm 759 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: telling the story. I mean, what in the world could 760 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,120 Speaker 1: it have been? I didn't know. They felt guilty for 761 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: not telling it earlier. Of all those base stories, and 762 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 1: there's four or five you illustrate, and it's really worth 763 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,320 Speaker 1: watching for that five minute part of the documentary. Which 764 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: one to you? I mean, because they all felt so 765 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,280 Speaker 1: real and there's no reason at this point you're retired 766 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 1: to you know, ad libit or disclose information that's not 767 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: forthright and honest. Which one of those base experiences to you? 768 00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: Is there one you still think about or one that 769 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 1: had the most impact to you? 770 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, for sure, I'm saying one really stands out to me. 771 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 2: But first I'll tell you, look, you interview people every 772 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:55,280 Speaker 2: day this film. This was the first documentary I directed 773 00:39:55,360 --> 00:40:00,080 Speaker 2: and the first time I conducted interviews right, and I 774 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,919 Speaker 2: I really truly felt it when they were sharing their 775 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 2: truths and their experiences. I felt like these people were 776 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:09,680 Speaker 2: just getting a weight off their shoulder and relieved to 777 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: finally talk about it right, Like they wanted the world 778 00:40:12,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 2: to know the truth. They felt deserve the world deserved 779 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,479 Speaker 2: to know the truth. So the activity at bases UAP base, 780 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 2: the UAP activity over military bases, it's not just military base, 781 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: it's also our nuclear weapons. 782 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 4: Sites, and it's active. It's an ongoing issue. 783 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 2: And I interviewed a number of military officials who experienced 784 00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:36,760 Speaker 2: events that happened in our classified airspace over military bases, 785 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 2: and one that really stands out took place at Vanderberg 786 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,120 Speaker 2: Air Force Base. I'm in Los Angeles right now as 787 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:44,000 Speaker 2: I talk to you and stuff. The coast like two 788 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:49,240 Speaker 2: hours is VanderBurg, right around Santa Barbara area. And I 789 00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 2: interviewed a Air Force security guard whose job at the 790 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: time was to guard nuclear weapons like a guy we 791 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 2: clearly trust, right, like not a crazy person, like someone 792 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,880 Speaker 2: put in a very trusted position. And he was amongst 793 00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,440 Speaker 2: it was five or six other Air Force security guards 794 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 2: at the time. They saw a light coming off the coast, 795 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: the Pacific coast, towards the base. At first they thought 796 00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 2: it was an airplane that was flying towards them. They 797 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 2: just saw a single light and then as it got closer, 798 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 2: the light went away and what came into view was 799 00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: a giant what they described as a giant craft the 800 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,200 Speaker 2: size of a football field. It puts his arms out 801 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 2: like this and says it was the size of a 802 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 2: football field. It was rectangular, It was matt black, no lights, 803 00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,480 Speaker 2: no visible means of propulsion, and it was just there 804 00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,000 Speaker 2: and it came over the base over their heads, and 805 00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 2: it hovered over their heads, and they said they just 806 00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 2: looked up in awe and shock at this extraordinary thing 807 00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 2: that just defied everything they knew about reality. And then 808 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,840 Speaker 2: it shot off at thousands of miles an hour. Obviously, 809 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 2: you know, mankind has never made a craft the size 810 00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:56,320 Speaker 2: of a football field that could fly, no propulsion system 811 00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: and no lights and then shoot off at thousands of 812 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,880 Speaker 2: miles an hour. And you know, hearing hearing this, this 813 00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,240 Speaker 2: this person tell the story was extraordinary. 814 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: Uh. 815 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 4: He had never spoken up publicly about it. 816 00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:10,759 Speaker 2: This was his first time going public after a month 817 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 2: wow decade. 818 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 4: He had no desire previously to talk about it. 819 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,240 Speaker 2: But when he learned about you know who was speaking 820 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 2: up in this film and revealing the truth, he felt 821 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:23,560 Speaker 2: like it was important for him to join that and 822 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 2: and share his truth. 823 00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,120 Speaker 4: But was also extraordinary. On top of that is after 824 00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 4: talking to him, I talked to other Air Force security 825 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,359 Speaker 4: guards that were on the base that day, and they 826 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 4: all told the same thing. 827 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: They all had the same story from different perspectives. And 828 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 2: then a couple of them actually slip me the police report, 829 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,160 Speaker 2: the Air Force Security police report that had to do 830 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:49,320 Speaker 2: shows the details in it, and it's a real situation 831 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 2: that actually happened. 832 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,240 Speaker 4: And that is extraordinary. 833 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 2: The idea that there are human beings out out there 834 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 2: in our country that have had these experiences. You know, 835 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 2: and I and I and I, you know, I was 836 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,560 Speaker 2: talking about this week with Joe Rogan last week. I'll 837 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 2: ask you, like, think about, like put yourself in the 838 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,640 Speaker 2: shoes of this guy. What like what would your reaction be? 839 00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 2: You look up and you see a UFO the size 840 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 2: of a football field just above you, and it takes 841 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:14,000 Speaker 2: off thousands of miles an hour. It's you know, that's 842 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 2: that's so insane and such a like departure from what 843 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,360 Speaker 2: we know to you know, be reality. 844 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:22,759 Speaker 4: Right, It's got to just forever change you. 845 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 2: I think these people have these experiences, I think they 846 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 2: are forever changed by them. 847 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,640 Speaker 1: Well, I've told my audience this. I think once before 848 00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,600 Speaker 1: I had an experience years ago. I was in college. 849 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: I was in a car I believe it was a 850 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 1: AMC pacer my dad had got from his friend who 851 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,240 Speaker 1: was a car dealer. Wow. And I had driven from 852 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:51,240 Speaker 1: college with Mark Fisher, who was my friend, and we 853 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: were in a very rural area in Brayln, Washington, and 854 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 1: we pulled up to my house, which had a long 855 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: driveway and I had a Frank Lloyd Wright house. I've 856 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: told this once or twice before. And I saw a 857 00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,359 Speaker 1: light above the house and it was a very rural road, 858 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,479 Speaker 1: so I Mark was sleeping, and I said, hey, dude, 859 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,240 Speaker 1: look look what is that. It was very small hovering 860 00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,720 Speaker 1: right over our house, multiple lights and as I pulled 861 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: up our driveway, it shot out and up. Wow. And 862 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,719 Speaker 1: I went, okay, I'm going to take Mark home. I did. 863 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 1: I came back. I came and my mom she was 864 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,439 Speaker 1: up actually because I'd driven from college and she wanted 865 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,000 Speaker 1: to make sure I was safe. I said, did you 866 00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: hear anything? She goes, she was British, no, dolling, I 867 00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: didn't hear anything. I said, nothing, a humming anything. So 868 00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 1: I always chalked it up. My town was small. We 869 00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: didn't have helicopters in my town. It wasn't a small 870 00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: plane because it hovered and then it went out and 871 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 1: up and it was I was thinking, as I was 872 00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: taking the train in Chicago, I'm an La Sum but 873 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: Chicago more. And I was thinking, I'm not going to 874 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: waste his time with his story. But now we can, 875 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: you know, kind of segue to it. As you know 876 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: you there have been Aaron Rodgers has talked about this. 877 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,120 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield, Oh, you know, I didn't chide, but I 878 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:03,919 Speaker 1: sort of poked funted him. I said, I don't want 879 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 1: my quarterbacks talking UFOs. Right. This is an adult position. 880 00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:09,840 Speaker 1: But the truth is a lot of people who have 881 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: nothing to gain from it have had these experiences. What 882 00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:18,400 Speaker 1: I thought was really fascinating is the negative biological effects 883 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,720 Speaker 1: of people you interviewed, of your thirty four and senior 884 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: intelligence officials who have come in contact with not only Craft, Yeah, 885 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: but I guess I would say, lack of a better word, aliens, yes, 886 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:39,400 Speaker 1: that have had very negative physical biological effects. Take our 887 00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: audience there, because that to me, again, to say that publicly. 888 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,040 Speaker 1: To say it privately at a party is one thing. 889 00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: To say it publicly is mind blowing to me. I 890 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: don't remember anybody of that level ever saying that publicly. Yeah. 891 00:45:58,400 --> 00:45:58,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 892 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,439 Speaker 2: So one of the big reveals that came out making 893 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,400 Speaker 2: this dock is that intelled in officials military officials who 894 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:10,319 Speaker 2: have encountered UAP UFOs have had biological effects, meaning being 895 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:14,960 Speaker 2: getting too close to this technology has negatively impacted them 896 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,759 Speaker 2: their health, their bodies in some cases caused cancer. And 897 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,839 Speaker 2: you know, it's it's understandable because this is a technology 898 00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 2: that we don't fully understand, and it's extremely powerful and 899 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,440 Speaker 2: it gives off a lot of energy. So the analogy 900 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 2: is like, hey, if you didn't know what an F 901 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:32,520 Speaker 2: sixteen was and you went and stood behind it when 902 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,680 Speaker 2: it was taken off, you're gonna get fed up, you know, 903 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 2: like it's not great. Yeah, And and so you know, 904 00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: I think what we're learning is that this technology is 905 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,759 Speaker 2: far outside or understanding in every way. And and yes, 906 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,800 Speaker 2: there's been a number of of intelded officials and military 907 00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,839 Speaker 2: officials who have had severe health issues and and some 908 00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,360 Speaker 2: people have have passed away from cancer that they got 909 00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:03,880 Speaker 2: being too close to UFOs. And that's a darker part 910 00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 2: of this whole truth that is coming out now, and 911 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:07,840 Speaker 2: it is shocking. 912 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:09,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 913 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 1: Dan Fara is joining US director and producer Age of disclosure. 914 00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 1: What has been interesting is since you have done this documentary, 915 00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: there's been other pieces of video that have run, even 916 00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:28,880 Speaker 1: on the network Nightly News. One in particular is what 917 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:33,560 Speaker 1: appears to be a UAP. I think it's Yemen, and 918 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:38,239 Speaker 1: we fire at it and the missile or the shot 919 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: goes through it bounces through it, which based on the 920 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:47,080 Speaker 1: bubble wrap theory in your documentary, is explainable, so the 921 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,200 Speaker 1: Nightly News couldn't explain it. But I want you to 922 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: talk about the two physicists that talked about the bubble 923 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,440 Speaker 1: wrap theory because I have seen and many people who 924 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:02,080 Speaker 1: have seen these UAPs there is a almost a muted 925 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: look like they're inside something. And if you could, let's 926 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,319 Speaker 1: talk about the bubble wrap theory. It's about a three 927 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 1: to five minute discussion, and it really to me it 928 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,040 Speaker 1: was a pivotal moment because a lot of these things 929 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,239 Speaker 1: look different. The ones I've always struggled with is the 930 00:48:21,280 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: ones that appear to have a circular device or a 931 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,600 Speaker 1: shield around them, and it was described by your physicists. Yeah. 932 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 2: So over the years, it's been a lot of flight 933 00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:36,440 Speaker 2: performance characteristics that have been observed. When people see UAP, 934 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 2: they see them doing these these these. 935 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,919 Speaker 4: These performance characteristics that defied physics as we know it, right, 936 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,120 Speaker 4: And a couple of the very senior scientists that I 937 00:48:45,160 --> 00:48:49,240 Speaker 4: interviewed who worked on classified UAP programs for the US government, 938 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:53,280 Speaker 4: they reveal in the film that they have figured out 939 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 4: how this technology works, how these UAP are doing what 940 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:02,520 Speaker 4: they're doing. And simply put, these craft are generating a 941 00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:07,640 Speaker 4: significant amount of energy and they're creating a they're essentially 942 00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:10,719 Speaker 4: warping space time, which sounds like something out of a 943 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,439 Speaker 4: science fiction movie. I understand that, but they are saying. 944 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,120 Speaker 2: What these scientists reveal is that they are warping space 945 00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,880 Speaker 2: time in a localized area, and they're creating a bubble 946 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:23,000 Speaker 2: around the craft. And essentially, the simplest way to say 947 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 2: it is that bubble creates a barrier between the environment 948 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:31,520 Speaker 2: the craft is in in our environment, so the laws 949 00:49:31,600 --> 00:49:34,440 Speaker 2: that you know define what you can do, you know 950 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,040 Speaker 2: with you know what physics allows you to do in 951 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 2: our environment are no longer applicable, right, So what happens 952 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 2: in that bubble is completely different than what happens outside 953 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 2: the bubble. So they might be moving along having a 954 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,920 Speaker 2: Sunday stroll like a leisurely flight right, and to us 955 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,880 Speaker 2: it looks like they're going at these impossible speeds. It 956 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,759 Speaker 2: explains everything. It explains why trans medium travels observe. We 957 00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,400 Speaker 2: see these craft going from space to the air to 958 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,840 Speaker 2: the ocean seamlessly through these separate environments, which is not 959 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,960 Speaker 2: something our aircraft can do. But once you understand that 960 00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 2: they're in their own space time environment, or within this bubble, 961 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,759 Speaker 2: then it makes sense because the bubble and everything in 962 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 2: it is not impacted by the environment around it. It 963 00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,640 Speaker 2: also explains why we've had so much trouble getting these 964 00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 2: things on radar, because the way radar works is a 965 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 2: radar emitter shoots radar at an object and then it 966 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,799 Speaker 2: bounces back to the radar emitter, and that's how you 967 00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 2: figure out where the thing is right. But in this case, 968 00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:32,000 Speaker 2: the radar is just bouncing around the bubble and continuing 969 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:35,400 Speaker 2: on right. It also explains, you know, the answer to 970 00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,000 Speaker 2: the ageal question of why is it so hard to 971 00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 2: get a good photo or video of a UFO. The 972 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,319 Speaker 2: simple answer is because we're taking photos and videos through 973 00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,400 Speaker 2: a space time barrier, through this bubble. It's the equivalent 974 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,480 Speaker 2: of trying to take pictures of fish under the ocean 975 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: from above the ocean. 976 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,399 Speaker 4: You can't do it right. No one would ever be like, hey, 977 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,040 Speaker 4: I'm trying to take a picture of these fish in 978 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,840 Speaker 4: this coy pond that it looks all blurry. Why is 979 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 4: that happening? 980 00:50:57,640 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 2: You'd be like, well, moron, you're taking a picture from 981 00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 2: a bubble the water to right in the water, right, 982 00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 2: And it's the same thing here, Like, you can't get 983 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:07,600 Speaker 2: a good picture of these things because we're trying to 984 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:09,960 Speaker 2: take photos through a space time barrier, through this bubble 985 00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,799 Speaker 2: that's been created. And this warp bubble is the key 986 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,960 Speaker 2: to that technology. And what's also extraordinary about it is, 987 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,360 Speaker 2: as the signedists say, this technology, this ability to generate 988 00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:22,040 Speaker 2: this immense amount of energy in a localized area and 989 00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:25,000 Speaker 2: create this warp bubble, it is it is, in their opinion, 990 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,840 Speaker 2: the key to interstellar travel. It's it's the key to 991 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,440 Speaker 2: basically the next chapter for humanity. 992 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,560 Speaker 4: Right, it's it's a solution to the energy crisis. 993 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,120 Speaker 2: You know, they're creating immense amount of energy, and they're 994 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:40,919 Speaker 2: tapping an energy that we haven't figured out. 995 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:41,799 Speaker 4: How to tap into yet. 996 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,720 Speaker 2: Right, That could solve one of the biggest problems humanity has, 997 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,680 Speaker 2: the energy crisis. It could set up future generations, you know, 998 00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,520 Speaker 2: for a much better life. And then you know, in 999 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:54,000 Speaker 2: terms of you know, opening its doord interstellar travel, they 1000 00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:58,120 Speaker 2: could just expand you know, you know, mankind's exploration of 1001 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 2: the galaxy. 1002 00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 4: It's the possible are limitless. 1003 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,960 Speaker 2: One of the other big big things talked about with 1004 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:11,759 Speaker 2: rather technology is once we start making this information known 1005 00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:15,000 Speaker 2: to academia and the scientific community, then they can put 1006 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,799 Speaker 2: their brain power towards it, and who knows what else 1007 00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,400 Speaker 2: comes off the back of that. You know, the space 1008 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,399 Speaker 2: Race was a single mission to get to the Moon, right, 1009 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:27,360 Speaker 2: but the process led to something like thirty five thousand 1010 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 2: other inventions coming off the back of it that have 1011 00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: benefited us, like things we don't even think about, like 1012 00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 2: you know, I think velcrow and microwaves and. 1013 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:38,680 Speaker 4: Like things we use. Yeah, right, right, And you don't know. 1014 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,440 Speaker 2: What will come off the back of something like this. 1015 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,239 Speaker 2: So yeah, that sequence in the film is one of 1016 00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:47,640 Speaker 2: my favorite sequences of the film because the two people 1017 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,960 Speaker 2: who speak are incredibly intelligent. They're quantum physicists. They worked 1018 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,360 Speaker 2: as senior scientists on these classified UAP programs for the government, 1019 00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:01,160 Speaker 2: and they're just straight up revealing how this technology works, 1020 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 2: and it's stated in such a simple way that you 1021 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 2: don't need to be a rocket scientist to follow it, 1022 00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:09,000 Speaker 2: you know, and it all makes sense and it's it's 1023 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:09,760 Speaker 2: really inspiring. 1024 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:14,759 Speaker 1: How has the UFO community I would be considered a 1025 00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: normy right like I when I said how much I 1026 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:23,040 Speaker 1: loved your film, your documentary, you know, a few people 1027 00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 1: pushed back, Oh, now the normies are talking about it. 1028 00:53:26,120 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 1: But I can sense because you're getting such legitimate corporate 1029 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:45,320 Speaker 1: discussion nightly news, major cable programs. You know, Joe Rogan 1030 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,640 Speaker 1: has always had a great interest in this. But because 1031 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:54,920 Speaker 1: you're getting so much credit and so much discourse and discussion, 1032 00:53:56,280 --> 00:54:00,239 Speaker 1: has there been any pushback from you know, nobody's ever 1033 00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:04,600 Speaker 1: done this, nobody's ever had thirty four senior intelligence officials, 1034 00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,480 Speaker 1: and the documentary beyond that is so brilliantly made. Like, 1035 00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:10,920 Speaker 1: has there been any pushback or have you been universally 1036 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: accepted and celebrated? Well? 1037 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,560 Speaker 2: Look, I think before the movie came out, I certainly 1038 00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: dealt with some people who were causing problems for me 1039 00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 2: behind the scenes, and there were a number of people 1040 00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:24,000 Speaker 2: who wish this movie didn't exist, wish I hadn't made 1041 00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 2: it wish it wouldn't get released. I overcame all that 1042 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:30,759 Speaker 2: and obviously got the movie out there. I think that 1043 00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 2: the response to the film has been so overwhelmingly supportive, and, 1044 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,360 Speaker 2: as you said, in an unprecedent way, is getting serious 1045 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:38,960 Speaker 2: news coverage. 1046 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:40,200 Speaker 4: And I was on Jake Tapper on. 1047 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:45,480 Speaker 2: CNN, I yes, you know, Hannity and Brett Baher on Fox, 1048 00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:47,400 Speaker 2: and New York Times did a big piece about a 1049 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,399 Speaker 2: secret screening I held for Congress a couple of weeks ago, how. 1050 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 4: Important that was. 1051 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,360 Speaker 2: And so I think all of that is making people 1052 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,680 Speaker 2: realize how important this is, and it's overcoming those who 1053 00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 2: would want to cause problems. But there are still there's 1054 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,919 Speaker 2: still bad actors on social media. I'm aware of people 1055 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,800 Speaker 2: who are paid, bad actors who are actually on social media, 1056 00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:10,400 Speaker 2: paid to just wake up every morning and disparage this 1057 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,880 Speaker 2: film and the people in it. Yes, take shots at it, 1058 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:17,440 Speaker 2: and that's a very real thing. They're not the smoothest operators, 1059 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,120 Speaker 2: because once you realize they're doing it. 1060 00:55:19,239 --> 00:55:19,920 Speaker 1: I can tell. 1061 00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,680 Speaker 4: I mean, some of it's so obvious. 1062 00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 2: You're like, no one spends this much time ragging on 1063 00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:28,759 Speaker 2: the same thing unless it's their And guess what, it 1064 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 2: is your job, you know, like so, but you know what, 1065 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:33,680 Speaker 2: I think the reality of it is the good guys 1066 00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,360 Speaker 2: win in the end, and you know, the truth will prevail. 1067 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,279 Speaker 2: And this film is thirty four people arm in arm 1068 00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:43,200 Speaker 2: putting their credibility on the line to share their truth. 1069 00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,879 Speaker 2: And I think ultimately that that's any of these bad 1070 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:50,520 Speaker 2: actors on social media just making up disparaging negative stuff. 1071 00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 2: I just think it's noise and the truth is, the 1072 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,880 Speaker 2: truth is gonna win. And you know, you know, speaking 1073 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:58,359 Speaker 2: of three four people, the thing everyone's gonna remember this 1074 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 2: day and age. You could put a four video of 1075 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: that giant craft that went over Vanderberg online and half 1076 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,200 Speaker 2: the human population will think it's ai. 1077 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,239 Speaker 4: They'll be like, oh, some. 1078 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,480 Speaker 2: Hollywood producer made that with visual effects or this or that, right, 1079 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:17,239 Speaker 2: But people, credible people with amazing resumes and lots of 1080 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,480 Speaker 2: credibility putting their name and reputation on the line and 1081 00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:24,200 Speaker 2: going on camera on the record revealing this information. To me, 1082 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,239 Speaker 2: that is that is the strongest evidence you could hope for. 1083 00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:32,439 Speaker 2: And I think it's going to ultimately overshadow any any 1084 00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,200 Speaker 2: bad actors online who are you know, saying disparaging things. 1085 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,920 Speaker 1: Only twenty seven percent of the ocean is mapped. Many 1086 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: of these videos, these craft have been in and out 1087 00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: of the water. There's two or three that are more 1088 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,080 Speaker 1: prominent that I think almost everybody listening to this will 1089 00:56:50,080 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: have seen. Were there discussions with any of the people 1090 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:05,520 Speaker 1: that you talk to that believe that's their primary base 1091 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: on this planet or is it something they can you know, 1092 00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:14,880 Speaker 1: they can activate, they can hide, or does it go 1093 00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:16,800 Speaker 1: deeper than that. Sometimes, by the way, when you do 1094 00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,880 Speaker 1: a documentary, there's some stuff that may be interesting but 1095 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,959 Speaker 1: doesn't make the cut. You guys didn't spend a ton 1096 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: of time on the ocean, and my take is because 1097 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: you didn't want a six hour documentary. But when you 1098 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: talk to these intelligence officials, the thirty four people, is 1099 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,320 Speaker 1: there a sense that there are bases a base or 1100 00:57:39,360 --> 00:57:44,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot more activity in the infrequently mapped oceans 1101 00:57:44,840 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 1: that's going on. 1102 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's an enormous amount of activity oceans that I've 1103 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:48,920 Speaker 4: learned about. 1104 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,520 Speaker 2: And yes, the only reason I didn't go deeper into 1105 00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,240 Speaker 2: the ocean is just because I had to get this 1106 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,840 Speaker 2: documentary under two hours or people would tell me. 1107 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:01,840 Speaker 4: But yes, so everyone I interviewed. 1108 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:07,439 Speaker 2: Was of the same mindset and thought that the most 1109 00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 2: obvious place for the UAP to hide is the ocean, 1110 00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 2: because the majority of our planet is the ocean and 1111 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,880 Speaker 2: it's the easiest place to hide from humanity. On top 1112 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 2: of that, there's been a lot of activity recorded by 1113 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: our Military and Talness Committee under the ocean. There have 1114 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:25,680 Speaker 2: been reports of craft the size of football fields again 1115 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 2: moving at one hundreds of miles an hour under the ocean, 1116 00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:32,960 Speaker 2: which is not something we have the capability to do, 1117 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: you know, and it's extraordinary. There are definitely hot spots. 1118 00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:45,640 Speaker 2: Congressman Tim Burchett actually recently talked about it publicly in 1119 00:58:45,680 --> 00:58:48,360 Speaker 2: an interview that there's four or five hotspots that are 1120 00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,200 Speaker 2: believed to be either maybe their bases. 1121 00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:53,880 Speaker 4: Maybe it's just a lot of activity there. We don't know. 1122 00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,120 Speaker 4: That's yet to come out, but there's a lot of 1123 00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 4: activity under the ocean. And that's all so, you. 1124 00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,200 Speaker 2: Know, for people who haven't really looked in this topic 1125 00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:05,720 Speaker 2: and they hear, okay, now people are calling UFOs u 1126 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:08,960 Speaker 2: a P. Why why did that change happen? The primary 1127 00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:13,960 Speaker 2: change is UFO stood for Unidentified flying object, UAP stands 1128 00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 2: for Unidentified anomalists phenomena and that that is because it 1129 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,400 Speaker 2: covers activity under the ocean and not just in the sky, 1130 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: because the things underwater are not flying technically right, But 1131 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 2: there is a tremendous amount of UAP activity in our oceans. 1132 00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,880 Speaker 2: And as Congressman Carson, one of the senior members of 1133 00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 2: Congress in my film reveals, they have lots of reports 1134 00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,560 Speaker 2: of these craft coming out of the ocean. And as 1135 00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:41,880 Speaker 2: he says, these aren't rockets, they're not aircraft. There are 1136 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:44,800 Speaker 2: other worldly things. He literally says that on camera. And 1137 00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 2: he's a very senior member of Congress. He's on the 1138 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,520 Speaker 2: House Intelligence Committee. He was on the House Committee for 1139 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 2: the Central Intelligence Agency. Really smart, senior, thoughtful guy. 1140 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:57,480 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1141 00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 2: So there's there's a there there, there's a real situation, 1142 01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 2: and it's fascinating. 1143 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:04,880 Speaker 4: The volume 1144 01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Mm hmm