1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Tony Hawk joined us recently. Legendary skateboarder entrepreneur. 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: He along with the great photographer filmmaker Sam Jones, I 4 00:00:15,680 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 1: have a documentary on HBO and it's called Tony Hawk 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Until the Wheels Fall Off at debuts today on HBO. 6 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: It's available to stream on HBO Max. And we started 7 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: the interview. I asked him he was at the Academy 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: Awards with Sean White and Kelly Slater and they were presenting, 9 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: and I said, on a scale of one to ten, 10 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 1: how nervous were you at the Academy Awards, I would 11 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,480 Speaker 1: say I was. I was somewhere around a seven or eight, 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,480 Speaker 1: only because I just broke my leg three weeks prior 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: to that and I was psyching myself to help to 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: walk without a limb. That was that was what I 15 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: was most nervous about. The lines were no problem. It 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: was more of the physical aspects of it. And where 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: were you seated when the slap happened. I was just 18 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: above the mucky MUCKs like in the not in those bleeds, 19 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 1: but right in the first row of regular seats. Kelly 20 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: said he heard the slap. Yeah, it was pretty I 21 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: mean when you were there live, you definitely thought it 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,040 Speaker 1: was set up as he approached the stage, and then 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: very quickly realized that it was not set up, especially 24 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: with the tone in his voice, and it was just shocking. 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: It was shocking. I mean, everyone was just what do 26 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: we do? What goes on here? What's unprecedented? And then 27 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: what happens during the commercial break? What happens? Everyone just 28 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of staring at each other. I wasn't near the commotion, um, 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: but you could tell that there was a lot of 30 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 1: people trying to figure out process it or give support. 31 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just so it was so 32 00:01:55,880 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: out there and nothing that I'd ever seen at an 33 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: event live or otherwise. So it was you know, it 34 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: was I'm just thinkingful that we presented our award before 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: that happened for this place. Who's the baddest guy out 36 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: of you Kelly and Sean like the baddest, baddest ass badass? 37 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: I feel like I feel like we all would say 38 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: each other, Kelly, I mean, just in terms of longevity. 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:27,119 Speaker 1: The guy just won the Pipemaster sifty. That's the case. 40 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: It's Kelly. But Kelly said you because of the physicality 41 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: of what happens, and if you fall, you're falling on cement, 42 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,640 Speaker 1: whereas Sean would be falling on snow. And then Kelly says, 43 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you know I have water. It's all relative. I mean 44 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: my attitude is, yes, I will ride a twenty foot ramp, 45 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: but if I fall on that ramp, it doesn't come 46 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: crashing down on top of me. And I know how 47 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:58,239 Speaker 1: to fall and survive it, but it's not going to 48 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: envelop me afterwards and pulled me down. And there's no 49 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: sharks that you have to deal with you and you 50 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: can't drown. I never really worried about that. I always 51 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: thought that was just that was too rare to me. 52 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: But what did you think when you first when you 53 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:16,799 Speaker 1: had your accent in a couple of weeks ago, did 54 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:21,959 Speaker 1: you know you had broken your femur immediately? Yeah, I 55 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: didn't hear it, but I was sliding to a stop 56 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: and I could feel my leg sliding way behind me, 57 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 1: and there was a sense of detachment already. And one 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: of my kids was there actually, and he said I 59 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: immediately grabbed it from where it was and put it 60 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: into place as if I fixed it, and said I 61 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 1: broke my leg, call an ambulance and then and then 62 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: realized very quickly that I was stuck in that position 63 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: until the ambulance came, which was uncomfortable be in shock. 64 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 1: I wasn't in shock. I I think I went through 65 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 1: a denial immediately, and then acceptance and the and then 66 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: I was so you know, it was all such high energy. 67 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: I wasn't feeling the pain until I settled down there 68 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 1: and waited, and then it was like, oh, this really 69 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:18,280 Speaker 1: does hurt, and I've got a lot of I've got 70 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: a long road ahead of me. Immediately I just knew 71 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 1: that does anybody say what are you still doing on 72 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: a skateboard? Um? Only in the sense of what are 73 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: you still doing doing those big tricks? So they I 74 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:36,159 Speaker 1: get it a lot of support and the fact that 75 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: I still skate and they think it's cool. It's like, oh, 76 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 1: that's cool, he still skate, you know that. But but 77 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 1: then when they see the level that I choose to 78 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: skate at and sort of what I was trying to maintain, 79 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: that's when people start to question, like, why why would 80 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: you do it? What's the what is what's the end goal? 81 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: And said, I don't know, this is just what I've 82 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: always done and it's what drives me. Did anybody at 83 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: the Academy Awards bring up your acting in the movies 84 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:05,599 Speaker 1: that you've been in? No, and you know, I'm insulted. Okay, Um, 85 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: which which movie? Which Jackass movie? You think should be 86 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 1: talked about in memorium? You know when fifty years from 87 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 1: now and they go, oh, Tony Hawk passed? Um, do 88 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: you remember when he was in Jackass? Let's see, that's 89 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: a good question. I feel like I had the most Um, 90 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: I had the most lines and bids in the first one. Okay, Um, 91 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:35,599 Speaker 1: So you know, to see the sort of range of 92 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: my acting, you really can see it in the first Wow. Wow, Yeah, 93 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 1: we're talking talking to Tony Hawk. The documentary is until 94 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: the wheels fall off, and one already fell off here 95 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: in the last couple of I fell off the wheel, 96 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: the wheel stayed on. I fell off. But when you 97 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: get to a point where you're going to do a documentary, 98 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: what do you learn about yourself through this process? Um? 99 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: I guess that my sense of determination and perseverance and 100 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: the desire to keep challenging myself is what has carried 101 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: me through, uh, you know, thirty years of being a 102 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: professional skateboarder. Um. And and the idea that I'm still 103 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: doing it, um either is something to be praised or 104 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:31,479 Speaker 1: something to uh be just written off. His stubbornness. What 105 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:35,560 Speaker 1: do you learn about your parents through this documentary or 106 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: what do we learn? Um that they were very supportive 107 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,280 Speaker 1: in their own way, but not really present in terms 108 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: of emotionals. Emotionally and um, they did their best. I 109 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 1: mean my dad, you know, he flew in World War 110 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: Two and he was in the Navy, and he he 111 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: was living on a meager budget and he's just trying 112 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: to make it work, and you know it just I 113 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: was like someone from his generation to be so supportive 114 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: of their kids was rare. Yeah, that's what I was 115 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 1: wondering about. That he's signing up. He says, this is okay. 116 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: That most people would say, you know, that's just a hobby, 117 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: it's passing. But it felt like your dad was all 118 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 1: in on this, which given the era that he was 119 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: going up in that maybe I wouldn't expect that. Yeah, 120 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. And well, I was the youngest of 121 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: four kids and he had a rough childhood, and that 122 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: he didn't have any support from his parents. Whatsoever. His 123 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 1: dad took off and he just had a really rough ghost. 124 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: So I think he tried to overcompensate through his kids. 125 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: And my brother was a surfer. He used to drive 126 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: him to the beach at sunrise to go serve. My 127 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: sister was in a band out of high school. He 128 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 1: would he would load up all their gear. And so 129 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: when I started skating, he saw what it brought to 130 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 1: me and how much drive I had, and he would 131 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: drive me to the skatepark. He was actually the default. 132 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: He was a default right for all my friends to 133 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: the skate park. How cool is that? Yeah, I'm amazing. 134 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: You remember the first thing you bought him? The first 135 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 1: thing I bought him? Yeah, when you got paid? Oh, 136 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: I think I let him. I gave him a show. 137 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: It was probably a little more self serving, but I 138 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 1: had gave him a shopping spree at helm depot. Wait, 139 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: do you think he's then going to build something for you? 140 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: He did. He always did a ramp. He well, the ramp, 141 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: I mean, the ramp came later. But the first I 142 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: bought him was just He loved like building decks and 143 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: just and and he was he was quite a carpenter. 144 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 1: So to upgrade his tools was pretty cool. How are 145 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: you as a dad to your kids? Uh, well, I'd 146 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 1: like to think that I'm very supportive, but I also 147 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: understand giving them their sense of independence and um identity. 148 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: So they all they all skate and I and I 149 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: tried it. It's hard because I'm so excited that they 150 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: all SKay. At the same time I want to I 151 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:02,720 Speaker 1: want to step back and let them have their their 152 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: own friends and their own their own crew, and their 153 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: own style of skating and so, um, you know, I 154 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:17,000 Speaker 1: tread lightning. When we get done watching this documentary, we're 155 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: going to say what, or you hope will say what 156 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: success is A is a byproduct of determination and hard work, 157 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 1: and um, you know, this stuff did not get easy 158 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 1: to me. I was not naturally gifted, as you'll see 159 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: very early on in the documentary, and I just put 160 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: my head down and did the work and got hurt 161 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: along the way, but for the sake of progression. Um, 162 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: but I think that the you know, I hope the 163 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: takeaway is follow your passion. It's worth it. And a 164 00:09:47,880 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: lot of times people see somebody do something and think 165 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: they don't have any fear. Somebody plays football, Oh you 166 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 1: you don't have any fear or Kelly Slater, Oh, you 167 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 1: have no fear, and they would say the same thing 168 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: about you. Well, you must not have any fear, but 169 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: you do have fears. It's just sure in your sport, 170 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: you're a little bit more comfortable in what you're doing 171 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: as opposed to something else. Yeah, I know, so I 172 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: put my ten thousand hours in. So I think it's 173 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: more that we take these calculated risks. I know what 174 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm capable of, I know when I'm confident with and 175 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: to some people that seems crazy, like that some trick 176 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: that is basic to me is something that they aspire 177 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: to do just once in their life. But I can 178 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 1: take that piece and keep and build upon that. And 179 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: so I think the difference is that I wasn't afraid 180 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: to get hurt along the way. I didn't like getting hurt. 181 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I don't like trying to pretend I'm a tough guy. 182 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: But when I do take my hits, I get back 183 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: up and try again. Well, Tony, good luck with a documentary, 184 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: and you're certainly in good hands with Sam Jones, the 185 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: director of the documentary, a very very talented guy. But 186 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: thank you, and we look forward to seeing you get 187 00:10:57,240 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: back up on the skateboard. All right, I'll get up 188 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: there until the wheel fall up the other wheel. Thank you, buddy. 189 00:11:04,280 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be 190 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine to 191 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: noon Eastern or six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. 192 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: Find your local station for The Dan Patrick Show at 193 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 194 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:22,599 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching f s R, 195 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: or stream us live on the Peacock Act. Baseball allowing 196 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,920 Speaker 1: pitchers and catchers to use anti sign stealing technology during 197 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: the regular season and the players will This is called 198 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: PitchCom and there's a pad with buttons on the wrist 199 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,520 Speaker 1: of the glove. Hand. Catcher can then signal pitches, pitch type, 200 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:47,559 Speaker 1: and location directly to the pitcher through a listening device 201 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: the listening devices in the helmet or hat, and then 202 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: that will be relayed almost like an Alexa to the pitcher, 203 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: so it'll be herball but went away, and then he'll 204 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,679 Speaker 1: be able to hear it. And I guess up to 205 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: two or three other players can hear this in the 206 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: infield or outfield to be able to position themselves. What 207 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: could go wrong? We'll get to phone calls coming up 208 00:12:16,360 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: Final Hour and Reggie Miller, the return of Reggie Aloisius 209 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: will join us coming up in about twenty minutes from now. 210 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: Poll question for the Final Hour Seaton is, well, Dan, 211 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: I think with the pitch com pitch tech conversation, maybe 212 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,839 Speaker 1: we pivot to that it's a pitch com is an 213 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: overreaction to sign stealing, smart and invention to keep things fair. 214 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: We'll lead to a new type of cheating. We got 215 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: also say PitchCom is a great idea, terrible idea. Yeah, 216 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,800 Speaker 1: I players are always going to cheat. It's like you 217 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: can have more, you know, stricter rules, regulations about using 218 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 1: performance enhancing drugs. They'll find something else. They're going to 219 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Speaker 1: find another way to try to get an advantage. That's 220 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: just that's nature. That that's how we're wired. Where you're 221 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: trying to find an advantage. Sometimes it's legal, sometimes it's not. Yeah, poll, Now, 222 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: this appears to be over compensation because remember when we 223 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,559 Speaker 1: talked about this when the sign stealing stuff was big. 224 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: You three played baseball. If you're at second base and 225 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: you could somehow read the catcher and physically sign that 226 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:28,959 Speaker 1: to your hitter, do you guys consider that illegal signs stealing. No, 227 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: so that's now off the board. It's been done for 228 00:13:32,200 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: over a one hundred years in baseball. That now is 229 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: off the board. No, it's up to you, right. It's 230 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: like if you go out to the mountain and you go, 231 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: come on, man, you gotta be throwing that fastball here. 232 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: All right, let's go fastball. It's on you if you 233 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: raise your voice. Now, if you go, you're got to 234 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 1: do that fastball right, Okay, Now you're taking care of 235 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: your side of this. If you leave the door open 236 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: for me to look into where your catch. I always 237 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: wanted to know location. I didn't I, you know, because 238 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: the signs can you know, that can screw up your 239 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: teammate when you're going, you know, fastball, like you put 240 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: your right hand on your right leg or your left 241 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: hand or your left leg could be curveball. I wanted 242 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,640 Speaker 1: to signal location because location would then help you a 243 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,959 Speaker 1: little bit more. If I say curveball and I've screwed 244 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: up the signs, now, I'm really you know, somebody can 245 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 1: get hurt. Yeah. So Baseball, instead of just making sure 246 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: teams didn't use apple washes to steal signs from center field, 247 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: signal to the dugout bang a can they overcompensated by 248 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 1: removing the entire human element of sportsmanship reading reading signs 249 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: because someone else isn't protecting it. You have one, at 250 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: least one person on every baseball team who is good 251 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: at stealing signs. It can be a guy who's on 252 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: the roster as one of your bench coaches. I mean, 253 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: that's what he does. He's always looking. He's going to 254 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 1: read the third base coach. He's going to see if 255 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: when you put down fastball or curveball, do you put 256 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: it down a little too low that I can see 257 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: underneath your leg and see that you're holding down two 258 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: fingers there. It doesn't take long for these guys to decipher. 259 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 1: They're like code breakers. But what happens if a picture 260 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: wants to shake off the catcher you then you have 261 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,760 Speaker 1: to re input the pitch type location into the pad. 262 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a no button like the picture hears in 263 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: their ear slider down the way hit. Nope, But does 264 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:27,360 Speaker 1: the does the picture have the pad on his wrist 265 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: it's just the catcher. Yeah, I really don't know. I'm guessing. 266 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: If you know, all of a sudden, it's like fastball 267 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 1: down the pipe and you go no, oh, yeah, they 268 00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: could just shake it off like they always have, shake 269 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: it off, shake it off, But then you have to 270 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 1: then you have to put in another pitch. And then 271 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: what happens if you shake There are guys who shake 272 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: them off. They'll be like three in a row they're 273 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: shaking them off. That's not any different if you're using 274 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: your fingers or you're using your pitch com well, you 275 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: still have to punch it in. Yeah, but it only 276 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: it takes like two seconds, yeah, okay, and then two 277 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 1: more seconds and then two more seconds. If I shake 278 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: you off three times, the pitch clock is you know, 279 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: counting down. But that I mean, that would be the 280 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: same though. If you wiggle your fingers one way and 281 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 1: then you shake it off, a wiggle your fingers another way, 282 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: shake it off, wiggle your fingers another. But if you 283 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 1: have you know, real thick fingers and you press the 284 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: wrong you've I mean, we've all you know typed text 285 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: and you go, oh, the wrong one. You hit a nut, 286 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: wrong button there, don't know that you've hit it yes time. 287 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: If you're not getting a good signal on the mound, 288 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 1: now you've got to step up the rumber and walk 289 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: towards second base. You can commit it back to the down. 290 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: How many bars you got out there? I got I 291 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: got one bar? I got one board? Why does he 292 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: keep walking up and down the third base line? Pitch 293 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: the ball's third? Yeah, it'd be a play at the 294 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: plate and the catcher falls over and batteries are flying 295 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: all over the balls over there. You know, you go in, 296 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: your spikes are up, you're trying to hit that the 297 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: catcher's wristband there. But I guess this starts on Thursday 298 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 1: that it's supposed to. Is it is optional? That's what 299 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 1: I'm curious, because if I'm a pitcher, what is that 300 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: receiver in my hat? Like you? Because that's how you're 301 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: gonna hear it. You don't have anything in your ear. 302 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: You don't have an earpiece, do you? And I couldn't 303 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: imagine pitching that way? All right, come on in, stay 304 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: a while if you can. We talked a lot about 305 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: what Kansas was able to do. North Carolina was up sixteen. 306 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 1: Kansas comes back, and it was awkward to see Bill 307 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: self up there with the president of the NCIA, Mark Emert, 308 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: And Kansas is being investigated for some things that happened, 309 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: some improprieties that happened back in twenty seventeen. This is 310 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: almost like when Roger Goodell was on the podium with 311 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick. You know this is awkward, And of course 312 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 1: I was there. It didn't feel awkward, but I could 313 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: see the optics if you're looking at it. And last 314 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: night you got Mark Emert, the president of the NCAA, 315 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: up there for the trophy ceremony, Bill Sell, Kansas under investigation. 316 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 1: You got two guys who worked for Adidas who were 317 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 1: giving money to recruits or parents of recruits at Kansas. 318 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: They're in prison. Two of the three are in prison 319 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: right now, Like they wake up today and you know 320 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: they're going and the Kansas Jayhawks national champs and they're 321 00:18:20,840 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 1: in jail, going, I'll be damned. We're in prison, Kansas 322 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: celebrating a national championship. It was just it was awkward. 323 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,719 Speaker 1: It was also awkward when Mark emirate U had this 324 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: to say when he was on the podium with the 325 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: national championship, We're so excited for you and there to 326 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: present the trophy as ahead of the Basketball Committee to 327 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,760 Speaker 1: coach South in the Kansas City Jayhawks. The universal of 328 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 1: Kansas Jail Hawks, got got loose and turned four there 329 00:18:56,119 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: for Mark Emirtt, Kansas City Jayhawks, Royals, Monarchs something. Where's 330 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: Roy Williams used to be? Congratulations? Roy whimmed, Oh, Bill Selph, 331 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: we're investigating you. Yeah, Marv. I was gonna say, if 332 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 1: you're the guys that are in prison right now and 333 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: somebody says, oh, what are you in prison for? And 334 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 1: you tell them the reason why when you're in commissary 335 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,399 Speaker 1: or a mess hall or whatever, how stupid do you 336 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: look like? Wait? Say that again. Those guys that are 337 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: on TV right now, that's what you went to prison for. 338 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: You're out of the yard. You know, you got guys 339 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: out there. Hey, what are you in for? Murder? What 340 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: are you in? Armed robbery? What are you in for? 341 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: I gave like seven thousand dollars to a recruit? Huh 342 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, Kansas the team that just won the national championship. Yeah, 343 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 1: and you know what, I'll do it again away from 344 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: that guy. If I get out of this out of 345 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:58,200 Speaker 1: the slammer, I'll do it again. Yes, time behind closed 346 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 1: prison doors. Do they get championship ring? Okay, all right, okay, 347 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Yeah, Paul, they're probably in prison getting the 348 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: unc title shirt's like the ones that we're going to be, 349 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 1: they said them like other countries to prisons. Eight seven 350 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: seven three d P shell email address DP of Dan 351 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 1: Patrick dot com Twitter handle a DP show Um Nathan 352 00:20:17,920 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: and La leads us off this final hour. Hey Nate, 353 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, it's been a while, so um with this. Uh, 354 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 1: I'm trying to just get a debate going about nominating 355 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: a new song to replace one Shining Moment one and 356 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,359 Speaker 1: I because I think we need to. I think it 357 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: needs a generational upgrade. Let's put that way or generational update. Okay, 358 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 1: I have a couple in mind. Now this can go 359 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: with what they want. I would either go Fight Song 360 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 1: from Rachel Platton or I would go Million Dreams from 361 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 1: the Great Showman soundtrack. All right, thank you Nathan. Yeah 362 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: for Tea. I think you keep the same music and 363 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: just change you pay your players instead of one Shining Moment, 364 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: just changed the words. Still like the music, especially the 365 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: team that just won. Well, I don't know if you 366 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,920 Speaker 1: could use that for everybody you pay your playing guest 367 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: chaters prospered all right? Whopping, Maybe we could bring this 368 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: up to Jim nance if he joins us tomorrow morning, 369 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: a car, a bag of cans. My dad's got a tractor. 370 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody's calling for changing the song 371 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: one shining moment. My mom now works in the athletics department. 372 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: That happened Jesse and Illinois. Hi, Jess, what's on your mind? 373 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,120 Speaker 1: Hey Dan, I was going right calling a comment. Yeah, 374 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: just calling a comment on the pitch com Dude. I 375 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,159 Speaker 1: was watching spring training yesterday and I can't remember what 376 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: I was watching. I think it was the Astros and 377 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,879 Speaker 1: the thing stopped working and the catcher looks over the 378 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: dug out. The equipment manager picks up a Willisville slugger. 379 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,920 Speaker 1: I just watched the trash can. Chris came in lowing 380 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: away extra Thank you, Jess. Old habits die hard. Carlos Beltron, 381 00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 1: who was one of the organizers for the cheating scandal 382 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: with the Astros, now he's a broadcaster with the Yankees. 383 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 1: He had this to say, I believe yesterday about that 384 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 1: his time when he was in Houston. Look him back now. Yes, 385 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: we did cross the line. I made my statement about 386 00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: what happened in twenty seventeen, and I apologize and it 387 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: was the right thing to do. We all did what 388 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: we did. Looking back today, we were wrong. I wish 389 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: I would have asked more questions about what we were doing. 390 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: Looking back now, yes we did cross the line. Who's 391 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: he asking questions to? Is he in the mirror going 392 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: why are you cheating? You know you're gonna give away 393 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 1: any opportunity to be a manager in baseball? So let 394 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: me get this straight. What we're doing here is wearing 395 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:19,200 Speaker 1: these devices. It tells us and then okay, okay, all right, 396 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: is that illegal? Carlos goes into the clubhouse. Guy, guys, 397 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: why are we doing this because you told us to, 398 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: because you orchestrated it. You said we're gonna hit ninety 399 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: because we're successful. I love that looking back now. At 400 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: the time it didn't dawn at me maybe this was wrong. 401 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: But looking back now I could see where maybe people 402 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: are upset about it. Looking back now, I could see 403 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,160 Speaker 1: the more they say, the worse it gets. That's all. Yes, yes, 404 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I meant to say, if someone one of them would 405 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: have told us to stop, maybe I guess we would 406 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: have stopped. And now you're blaming like the GM in 407 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: the front office. Yes, yes they did. They didn't tell 408 00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: us to stop, so I guess that's what we're doing. 409 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: I thought it was perfectly legal. Tyler in Denver High Tyler, 410 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Hey, what's going on? Danny? So 411 00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: the problem with this whole PitchCom thing is there, let 412 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: me thing the hatt device of the listening device to 413 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 1: only five players, because signs are still going to get 414 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: stolen down the line. Right. So if the center fielder 415 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: shortstop have to relay the pitch to a teammate right 416 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: third base or right field, well they're just gonna steal 417 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: that sign now because everyone doesn't have the listening device, 418 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:20,120 Speaker 1: so it's still going to get sold somewhere in the process. Well, 419 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: thank you, Tom, we'll take a break the great Reggie 420 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,360 Speaker 1: Miller in the on deck circle. 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Hi, reg how are you today? Hello? 440 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,880 Speaker 1: Theodore in my lovely Danet's How cool though would it be? 441 00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:31,880 Speaker 1: And then again another Cinderella come from behind comeback story. 442 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: If Tiger says, you know what in the eleventh hour, okay, 443 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 1: I'll play, and then goes out and just stampedes the 444 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 1: course and the competition. I mean, how awesome would that be? 445 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 1: It's just amazing if he plays. I mean that alone 446 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: is you know, monumental. But now it feels like he's playing, 447 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: we expect him to do well. Not It went from 448 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 1: maybe he can play around one round. Now it's now 449 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna play, He's gonna make the cut, He'll be 450 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,959 Speaker 1: there on Sunday afternoon. Like that. We ratchet up our 451 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: expectations with Tiger more so than probably any other athlete. 452 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: And I think if you asked Tiger, he would probably 453 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: want it that way, right. I mean, he's been in 454 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: the public eye over twenty years, obviously chasing Jack in 455 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: Grand slams. I think he would want it no other way. 456 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:35,160 Speaker 1: And we expect greatness from our you know, Mount Olympus 457 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: type athletes, and Tiger is on Mount Olympus in terms 458 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 1: of in today's age, first name basis, worldwide appeal. Tiger 459 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:50,160 Speaker 1: Woods maybe the face of all of sports. So yeah, 460 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: we would expect that. But did I hear this right 461 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: in his words, was an amputation on the table for 462 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 1: that lay? Yeah? Yeah, I think yeah, I think it was. Well, 463 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,320 Speaker 1: he nearly lost his life, then he nearly lost his leg, 464 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: and that's fourteen months ago. And now now I look 465 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,159 Speaker 1: at what Alex Smith went through with all of those surgeries. 466 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 1: He was gonna lose his like he was quarterbacking in 467 00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. Like nobody's chasing Tiger Man. He gets to walk. 468 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: But you know what Alex Smith did was remarkable as well. 469 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: Have you ever met Tiger? Yes, yes, nice fellow, Yes, yes, 470 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I met him a few times. But you're not a golfer, 471 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: so what did you talk about? Um, it's funny I 472 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 1: met him in Vegas, which this is this is before 473 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: kids for me, before the whole scandal with him, So 474 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: it's only fitting that I would meet him in Vegas. 475 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,399 Speaker 1: I was coming in, I was going out of a club. 476 00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,800 Speaker 1: He was coming into the club and we cross path 477 00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: us and exchange pleasant trees. Who's more Vegas? You or Tiger? Now? 478 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: The old No, No, the old the old you. We 479 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: probably could give each other a run for money. But 480 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 1: are you a gambler? A little bit? I'm not on 481 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: the Charles Barkley level, but I like to roulette blackjack. 482 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,399 Speaker 1: I like to hold onto my money. And I know 483 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,360 Speaker 1: Vegas was built on dummies like me, so I don't 484 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,480 Speaker 1: want to give them too much of it. But it's 485 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 1: fun just to kind of have fun with your with 486 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: your you know, with your boys sometimes. Can do you 487 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: think in the next five years we have an NBA 488 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,240 Speaker 1: team in Vegas? Yes, I think we will have two 489 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: NBA teams, and I'm hoping this Vegas in Seattle need 490 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: to get a franchise as well. I think we will 491 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 1: have too within the next five years. I do believe that. 492 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: How dangerous do you think that will be? Everything is 493 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: online bad now. I think people are over it. I 494 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: mean Van Duel and all these other spots. Bed MG, 495 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: that's the way of the world now. So I I 496 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 1: know the league's hesitation. We've got an NFL team there. No. 497 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 1: I meant I met the nightlife redge, not the gambling. 498 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: I mean, you you're gonna have nightlife. You have nightlife 499 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,320 Speaker 1: in Indiana. You have nightlife in Milwaukee. You can have 500 00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: nightlife in Cleveland. Okay, the least dangerous city at night 501 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 1: as far as partying was where while I played? Yeah, 502 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: I don't You're not gonna get in too much trouble 503 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: in Milwaukee. You're not going to get in too much 504 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: trouble in Utah. Charles got in trouble everywhere, didn't he. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 505 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: I mean it's how it's you can create your own trouble. 506 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: I remember going to the Underground in Salt Lake City. 507 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what the underground is, right, It was 508 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: a speakeasy. We walked down an alley and you knocked 509 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: on this door? What And this was during the Utah 510 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: Jazz Chicago Bulls NBA Finals. I speakeasy, Yestah. Rodman was 511 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: in there. I walk in because Rodman always thought I 512 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: was Craig Sager. He would always say, I walk in, 513 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: the place is packed packed. You would never know that 514 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: it existed. I walk in and all of a sudden, 515 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 1: Rodman's there and he goes, hey, Segar, Segar, and I go, oh, 516 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,959 Speaker 1: he thinks I'm Craig Sagar. I said, hey, Dennis, how 517 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:46,240 Speaker 1: are you? The only thing you and says are closely 518 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: resembled is maybe your hype. I think you guys are 519 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: probably the same hype. Other than that, that's it. Have 520 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: you ever been out with Rodman? Yes? Plenty of times, 521 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: like out out, like yeah, plenty of times in la 522 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: plenty of times. And what goes on any and everything, 523 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: everything is on the table with him. I'm more reserved 524 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: and cautious because I always like to know my surroundings, 525 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: like who I'm dealing with. So he was not like that. 526 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: He would just have random people come up, and that's 527 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 1: just not me. So though I was a part of 528 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 1: his I guess entourage and Posse. I kind of stayed 529 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: to myself because I'm more of a watcher, looker, observer 530 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: when I'm in these situations because you just never know 531 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: what could pop off, what could happen. So seeing him 532 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: and this is Dennis Rodden in the whole after the 533 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: Madonna the Champions, It's it's surreal to see because I've 534 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: been out with him, meaning obviously I've hung out with 535 00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,720 Speaker 1: Mike in situations like that, and it's you see the 536 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: different type of people that gravitate towards them, and it's 537 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: kind of it's cool to see, but like it kind 538 00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: of sucks too, Like, you know, I feel I have 539 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: a name recognition, but people don't like flaunt to me. 540 00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: They flaunted to MJ, they flaunted to Magic Johnson, they 541 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: flaunt to Rodman. I guess they would flaunt to Lebron Kobe, 542 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: but Kobe never went out. But it's just weird to 543 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,760 Speaker 1: see the different type of people that kind of serenade. 544 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: You mentioned Lebron. Magic Johnson was on ESPN yesterday and 545 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: he blamed Lebron for the Lakers not getting Demarta Rosen 546 00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:40,760 Speaker 1: that they wanted to get Demarta Rosen, who was available, 547 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: and Magic said he pushed for it, but Lebron wanted 548 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook. Does that sound right? I think at the 549 00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: end of the day, your best player, your star player, 550 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: and obviously, in the Lakers case, that would be Lebron. 551 00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: They had to have gone to Lebron and asked him, 552 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 1: here's the less the list of guys that we're thinking about. 553 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,160 Speaker 1: I do know on that list was Damar. I know 554 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: on that list was Buddy Healed. I know on that 555 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: list was Kyle Lowry. So they had options and choices. 556 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: And look, if Lebron feels comfortable playing with Russell and 557 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: that's his choice, I have no problem with it. I'm 558 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: not gonna blame him because but do you think it's 559 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: Lebron's decision that I think you can go that decision. 560 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: But heavy input, Yes, heavy input, I would say, And 561 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: that's been Lebron every place he's been started in Cleveland, 562 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: going to Miami, going back to Cleveland and now La. Absolutely, 563 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: you would go to Lebron and ask him his input 564 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: on certain players. I mean, how did they get Anthony Davis? 565 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: You don't think Lebron had a heavy dose of say yeah, 566 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: in that same agent too, right, But you know, the 567 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: star players like Magic didn't make good decisions in the 568 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 1: front office. Michael didn't make good you know, decisions in 569 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,759 Speaker 1: the front office. You know. That's remember Michael wanted to 570 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:14,759 Speaker 1: bring h Walter Davis into the Bulls when he was 571 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: on one lead in one leg al Wood, you know, 572 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: and then Jerry Krall said no, didn't Michael draft? I 573 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I love Kawamy Brown and Adam Morrison, so 574 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, look, great players sometimes are always their worst 575 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 1: critics because they think they need they know more than 576 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 1: they actually do. But I am not going to criticize 577 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: Lebron if he wanted to play with Russell Westbrook as 578 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: opposed to Demarda Rosen. Because DeMar Dea Rosen the season 579 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: that he's having right now in Chicago. Did we see 580 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,719 Speaker 1: any of that in San Antonio. We saw glimpses of it, yeah, 581 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: but we didn't see that full package that we're seeing 582 00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: in Chicago right now for him. Yeah, But Russ is 583 00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: either really good or really bad. Demarta Rosen is steady, 584 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: Like if it was an EKG, you'd be like, oh 585 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: my god, that patient's gonna die. No, and he's gonna 586 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: live to be a hundred. Demarda Rosen's like dude, He's 587 00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: like Joe Dumars. It's just like calm, no highlights, just 588 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: goes out there and plays. Get you some buckets, mid 589 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,319 Speaker 1: range jumpers. Again, I can't fault Lebron for wanting to 590 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:29,759 Speaker 1: play with Russell and I mean, here's the problem. They're 591 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: throwing Frank Vogel under the underneath the bus, which to 592 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: me is not fair. Who's should be skating on thin 593 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,640 Speaker 1: ice should be Rob Polinka. Seriously, he's the general manager, 594 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: he's the president of whatever title he has with the Lakers. 595 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,560 Speaker 1: I don't know why we always want to go to Lebron. 596 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 1: It's Lebron's fault. It's Frank Bogel's fault. You gotta start 597 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 1: looking at Upple management. You guys start looking at the 598 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: Bus family, gene Bus two. Right, they're the ones that 599 00:35:55,560 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 1: put this roster together. Rocker Lebron is out there. He recruiting. Absolutely, 600 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: he asking some of insurance play like Carmelo. Absolutely. But 601 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: they could at the end of the day say no. 602 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 1: They could have went out and got Buddy Hill. They 603 00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,000 Speaker 1: could have vetoed that and say we're gonna go with 604 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: DeMar de Rosen. So don't always throw Lebron underneath the bus. 605 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: Let's start looking at some of the principles here in 606 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: Genie Bus and Rob Polinka as well. But they could 607 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: have had demarda Rosen and Buddy healed. They could have 608 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: done that. And here's the thing. You look at Lebron's 609 00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: skill set and what he needs. Guys that can shoot 610 00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: to three, that can make it open shots like Damar 611 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,000 Speaker 1: probably the best mid range player in our game, that 612 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: fits his skill set. So someone in upper management needs 613 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,319 Speaker 1: to say, Okay, I know he wants to play with 614 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook, but his skill set doesn't fit the way 615 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: we and Lebron plays. So there's got to be a 616 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: grow up in the room now, right, So let's not 617 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: always throw it on Lebron. James shoulders and you get 618 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: to see the Lakers on Thursday night on TNT against 619 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,320 Speaker 1: which could be an elimination game for them, right, This 620 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 1: could be an elimination from the playoff game for them. 621 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 1: We want them in the playoffs. Although Anthony Davis says 622 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: the world is against us, that I don't. I mean, 623 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: there's more Laker fans than any other fan base, right right, 624 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,720 Speaker 1: and and every TV executive who carries the NBA wants 625 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: the Lakers in. We do. We have the West this year. 626 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 1: Let's make no mistake. Having the Lakers in the playoffs 627 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: and a deep playoff run, that's huge for the business. Yea, right, 628 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,960 Speaker 1: Not even having them in the playoffs at all is 629 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: terrible for the business. But not I mean, I would 630 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,720 Speaker 1: love to have them in the play in situation because 631 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 1: those games are and I give Adam Silver a lot 632 00:37:55,080 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: of credit. It adds a lot of juice now to 633 00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, the Lakers, hopefully if they got into 634 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: that tenth spot, having to win in New Orleans and 635 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: then you know, eventually having to play the winner or 636 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:11,239 Speaker 1: the loser of that. I believe it's Minnesota Clippers that 637 00:38:11,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 1: adds juice. So yes, not having them in the playoffs. 638 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 1: With her Reggie Miller, Hall of Famer turners Sports, NBA 639 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: and NCAA tournament analyst I mentioned this last week. It 640 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 1: feels like the tournament is either you're eighteen years of 641 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: age or you're twenty three or twenty four, right right, Yeah, 642 00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:32,239 Speaker 1: I agree that the transfer potal I think to me 643 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: it injected something into college basketball because of the whole 644 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,919 Speaker 1: COVID situation. It gave those guys and players what an 645 00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: extra year fifth year seniors. You know, we were calling 646 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: that Kansas versus Miami Elite eight game in Chicago and 647 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 1: between Mitch Lightfoot, Cameron mcgustie, Remy Martin. I mean, all 648 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,520 Speaker 1: these guys are fifth and six years. I believe mcgusty 649 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,879 Speaker 1: was twenty four years old. I'm like, twenty four, They're 650 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:07,239 Speaker 1: playing against like eighteen to nineteen year olds. I'm like, 651 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 1: that's a clear cut advantage. So, I mean, I get it. 652 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 1: I like it. So it had a little juice to it. 653 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 1: But we're going to get back to these kids coming 654 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 1: out of high school going right to the NBA, right 655 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:23,279 Speaker 1: I think so? Yeah, or going straight to the G 656 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,399 Speaker 1: League or D League whatever it is now to make 657 00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: some money. Yeah. I think eventually the world will correct 658 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: itself and if someone wants to play college for a year, 659 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,080 Speaker 1: which to me I wish they would, or they need 660 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: to change this model around. Because of the n ILS 661 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,719 Speaker 1: now and players being able to make money, players may 662 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 1: start to say, you know what, I can go to 663 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: college for a couple of years, still work on my 664 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: brand while making money. And the colleges went as well, 665 00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:02,560 Speaker 1: because you're getting top twenty, top fifty type players still 666 00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: playing in the college game. Did Kansas win it or 667 00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: North Carolina lose it? Ah, I'm never gonna take away 668 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: anything from the champions But if you're up sixteen and 669 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 1: the second half of a college game where you can 670 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:23,719 Speaker 1: control thirty five second shot clock and you've just got 671 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: to make plays and squeeze the life out of that Orange, 672 00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,920 Speaker 1: that's a tough pill to swallow, being up sixteen and 673 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,880 Speaker 1: losing a championship. But I'm going to give all the 674 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: credit to Kansas because when we were calling Kansas in Chicago, 675 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,719 Speaker 1: I told Harlan and Dan Vonner this, they did not 676 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: look good at all. They played that one great second 677 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,480 Speaker 1: half versus in Miami and blew them out in the 678 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:54,839 Speaker 1: second half, but the other three quarters were just okay. 679 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:57,879 Speaker 1: They played hard, they had great talent, but I just 680 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 1: didn't see it. So when they want that Miami game 681 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 1: was headed to the New Orleans, I'm like, you know, 682 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: if that kid from Villanova has never heard could this 683 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: been a different outcome for them? Because what we saw 684 00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: from Villanova when we had them in Pittsburgh, I'm like, 685 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 1: this is a team to beat. Their defense, their volve moment, 686 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: the way they shoot the basketball have been twenty three 687 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: and twenty four year old. They have like Gillespie and 688 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: Samuel's and more. I'm like Villanova's the team to beat. 689 00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 1: When that kid got hurt, I'm like Kansas got a 690 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,839 Speaker 1: break right there. MVP this year is going to be 691 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: an MVP this year should be of those different answers. 692 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 1: The MVP this year will be Yoki. The MVP should 693 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 1: be yannest Onto Dakumbo. How he has closed this season 694 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:59,520 Speaker 1: and I know consistently it's been for and what he's 695 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,160 Speaker 1: had to deal with two key injuries to two major 696 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:08,239 Speaker 1: players in Jamal Murray and Porter Junior. It will be 697 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: your kids. It should be you honest, him getting his 698 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,320 Speaker 1: third MVP because how he's been the last month and 699 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: a half two months has been spectacular. I think he's, 700 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,400 Speaker 1: which is scary, gone to a different level. But it 701 00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:27,400 Speaker 1: should be you honest. How long did it take you 702 00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: to shoot your Wendy's commercials? Oh man? That was it. 703 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,879 Speaker 1: Those were two days shoots and I hope people enjoyed them. 704 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,560 Speaker 1: It was great because the director said, look, we've seen 705 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: the first two years were great. Well we're gonna We're 706 00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: gonna let you and the actors just ad lived. We 707 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 1: have a script that we can somewhat follow. But here's 708 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,319 Speaker 1: the script, but do whatever you guys want, and we 709 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: did whatever want. So what you see A lot a 710 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,560 Speaker 1: lot of first takes us just being us and working 711 00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: off one another, which made it fun. Yeah, but how 712 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,440 Speaker 1: tough was it the you had to miss a shot 713 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: on purpose? It was very difficult because that's not my DNA. Theodore, 714 00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,320 Speaker 1: you know, that's not my Theodore. That's not my DNA. 715 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,880 Speaker 1: I had to look at and like Brick, I'm like, 716 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: are you sure you want this? Like, oh, we're never 717 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,360 Speaker 1: gonna use it. I look at the commercial they use it. People. 718 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 1: I don't miss that bad. I do not miss that bad. 719 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:24,359 Speaker 1: You don't, No, you don't. Hey, great to have you back, 720 00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: and uh, good luck on the playoffs, aren't the NBA 721 00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,760 Speaker 1: playoffs is gonna be great? Look? I even talk about 722 00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,759 Speaker 1: Brooklyn like Simmons, Now he's not going to even play 723 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 1: in the playoff. What is it? Brooklyn and the Lakers 724 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,279 Speaker 1: both in play in situations. I started the season they 725 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: were picked to face one another in the NBA Finals. 726 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,000 Speaker 1: Now they are scratching in Clawn just to make the 727 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,280 Speaker 1: regular playoffs that this year is going to be great 728 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, the Ben Schimmans thing, How did how 729 00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,080 Speaker 1: did the Nets not know that he had an injury. 730 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:08,359 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give Daryl Morway and Philly a they must 731 00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:14,279 Speaker 1: have fishing real they got they got it well boy, yeah, 732 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,720 Speaker 1: I mean he needed he needed the last ten games 733 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:19,960 Speaker 1: of the regular season to get ready. And now I wonder, 734 00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: you know, Kyrie is going to be able to play 735 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:26,560 Speaker 1: unless they go to Toronto, and like this is Harden 736 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,400 Speaker 1: feels like a detriment of Philadelphia, Like it's just it's 737 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 1: this trade didn't turn out to be what I think 738 00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: we thought it was going to be. I think at 739 00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,040 Speaker 1: the end of the day it will be Miami Milwaukee 740 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,839 Speaker 1: in the East Finals, and I think at the end 741 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: of the day it will be Phoenix and Memphis in 742 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,239 Speaker 1: the West finals. Wow. Though, I mean, if step can 743 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: come back and play like he played the first month 744 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: and a half, and Draymond Greene kind of picks up 745 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: his game a little bit, because Clay starting to come 746 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: on now a little bit. So if they can find 747 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,480 Speaker 1: that chemistry, which I don't know if they can this 748 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:10,360 Speaker 1: late midnis is playing out of their minds, and I 749 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:16,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't mind seeing a Dylan Brooks, John Morant Guards versus 750 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 1: Chris Paul and Devin Booker. I kind of want to 751 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:23,719 Speaker 1: see that. It'd be fun, have fun Thursday night. We'll 752 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,320 Speaker 1: talk to you next week. Thanks for joining us, Theodore, 753 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:30,440 Speaker 1: love you, Glad to be back. Layoff baby My, Dan Netts, 754 00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:33,839 Speaker 1: love y'all. Reggie Aloysius Miller Junior, the Third