Speaker 1: Kaboom. If you thought four hours a day, minutes a
Speaker 1: week was enough, think again. He's the last remnants of
Speaker 1: the old Republic, a sole fashion of fairness. He treats
Speaker 1: crackheads in the ghetto cutter the same as the rich
Speaker 1: pill poppers in the penthouse, to clearinghouse of hot takes,
Speaker 1: break free for something special. The Fifth Hour with Ben
Speaker 1: Maller starts right now. N alright is the Fifth Hour
Speaker 1: with Ben Mallard and Danny g as we continue all
Speaker 1: weekend long here from Super Bowl fifty seven the iconic
Speaker 1: Radio Row and Danny g. No need for a big
Speaker 1: open right now, because we have a big name here.
Speaker 1: This guy came on like game busters this year in
Speaker 1: the NFL and he's slumming with us now. He really did,
Speaker 1: and he could be in the middle of the desert
Speaker 1: for four days of darkness, but no, he's at media
Speaker 1: Row instead. That's right. His name Christian walk into the
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packers and he joined us here in the
Speaker 1: fifth Yeah, what this year? You know, you would admit
Speaker 1: we were doing that great and then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: like around what week ten you went Gamebusters? What happened? Like?
Speaker 1: What was different at the end of the year for you. Uh,
Speaker 1: just find found a little more consistency, you know, I
Speaker 1: found found that confidence that I need to play at
Speaker 1: play at a high level. Uh and just just contentt off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you like you like doing this media stuff here,
Speaker 1: parading around all the different radio shows and podcasts and
Speaker 1: all this. Uh you know, I mean it's crazy. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's hectic, it's a lot, but uh, you know, I've
Speaker 1: been enjoying it. I've been enjoying it. Do you have
Speaker 1: your own podcast yet or are you doing your own
Speaker 1: thing or not yet? I do not not yet, not yet.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe one day in the future. But but as
Speaker 1: I write out now, so you're just starting your career,
Speaker 1: you do you have a vision like down the line.
Speaker 1: I don't know how long you plan on playing for.
Speaker 1: Do you want to get into the media or anything
Speaker 1: like that when you're done, or do you you want
Speaker 1: to completely leave that in the past. I mean, I
Speaker 1: haven't put too much thought into it, but you know,
Speaker 1: I have a strong passion and love for football, so uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure you know once I'm once I'm done,
Speaker 1: whatever that is, I'm sure I wanna I want to
Speaker 1: be around it some way, Uh, some in some some forms.
Speaker 1: So we'll see. Ben, you said vision wrong packer. He
Speaker 1: doesn't take ayahuasca, he's not doing not doing what do
Speaker 1: you think about what's going on with your QB situation?
Speaker 1: And I'm just I'm just letting him do him and
Speaker 1: then whatever whatever he needs to do to to you know,
Speaker 1: come to a decision and uh, you know, figure out
Speaker 1: what he needs to figure out. Uh, let him do him.
Speaker 1: And so I'm not putting too much thought into it.
Speaker 1: Uh just just you know, controlling what I can control
Speaker 1: and doing doing what I can do. Now, um, take
Speaker 1: us behind the scenes. So you were obviously a young player,
Speaker 1: but we're guys busting his chops on the ayahuasca and
Speaker 1: all that in the locker room or they was that
Speaker 1: we're boating or were they having a good time with that? Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's anything too crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: if anything, you know, not not directly to him, but
Speaker 1: you know, there might have been a few chirps you know,
Speaker 1: here and there, but uh, you know, no, it was
Speaker 1: it wasn't anything crazy. Uh you know, I don't think
Speaker 1: uh anybody was you know, overwhelmed, you know what he
Speaker 1: had going on. You know, I think that. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: everyone you know loves Rogers, every everyone uh uh you
Speaker 1: know has a really good connection with him in the
Speaker 1: locker room. So uh, you know, we we we didn't
Speaker 1: we kept that off the field. Was it was it awkward?
Speaker 1: Like because I'm assuming being a receiver and you didn't
Speaker 1: know where you were gonna be drafted, and you're drafted
Speaker 1: there and you're like, uh was it What was it
Speaker 1: like walking in and dealing with with a guy who's
Speaker 1: one of the legends and your sport and your business
Speaker 1: of football. Uh? Yeah, I mean it was crazy. There
Speaker 1: was definitely a little bit of star struck no to
Speaker 1: to seeing you know, seeing him for the first time
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, just being on the football field
Speaker 1: with him. Uh. But I mean for me, I just
Speaker 1: kind of looked at as a as an opportunity to
Speaker 1: to grow, uh and and get better and and you know,
Speaker 1: be able to pick his brain because yeah, obviously there's
Speaker 1: there's not a lot of opportunities out there to to
Speaker 1: you know, play and learn from you know, a player
Speaker 1: of his caliber. Absolutely, Now let's switch it up and
Speaker 1: talk about the big headline that happened this week kind
Speaker 1: of trumped the whole Super Bowl thing for a hot minute,
Speaker 1: k d coming here to Phoenix for the Suns. I
Speaker 1: know you're an NBA fan. I see your Kobe shirt.
Speaker 1: You have good taste. Danny, my guy, Danny's jealous because
Speaker 1: this guy the biggest Kobe Bryant fan that I know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I like that shirt and Lakers had a couple of
Speaker 1: good moves too. What do you think about the movement
Speaker 1: going on in the NBA? Oh, you know, I actually
Speaker 1: I've I've been pretty busy, so I haven't been able
Speaker 1: to dive too deep into it. Uh, you know, I definitely,
Speaker 1: I definitely watched the games once they once they get
Speaker 1: good a little a little later in the season, uh.
Speaker 1: I mean, and like a lot of us, when there's
Speaker 1: no no more NFL games, super Bowl exactly, we switch
Speaker 1: our attention to the NBA exactly. But you know, I
Speaker 1: haven't haven't dove into it too much. But obviously, you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen that there's been quite a bit of commotion
Speaker 1: going on with it, so it's been crazy. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: you you're from Florida, right, you grew up in Florida,
Speaker 1: but you went to school in North Dakota. Is now
Speaker 1: you're in Green Bay, is uh what's going on North
Speaker 1: Dakota versus Green Bay? What better play? Better environment? Uh?
Speaker 1: Not known as party places either one of those locations.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, I mean I've honestly, I've been joining
Speaker 1: enjoying Green Bay a little bit more only because the
Speaker 1: winters are a little bit less Harshly you frozen tundras
Speaker 1: easier than when you went to college. Yeah, No, it's
Speaker 1: it's definitely definitely a little a little more chili in
Speaker 1: North Dakota. So I've been uh, you know, I I
Speaker 1: don't want to say enjoy, but I definitely been enjoying
Speaker 1: it more than I enjoyed the North Dakota winters. But
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's a small town vibe and and
Speaker 1: you know, I feel like everything revolves around the packers.
Speaker 1: So it's a It's a nice place to be. But
Speaker 1: growing up in Florida, you're used to the warm weather
Speaker 1: and all that stuff, So how it's gotta be crazy
Speaker 1: for you still you're in college and now in the NFL,
Speaker 1: you're like cold, cold places. Have you adjusted over the
Speaker 1: years and they're used to it now? Uh? You know,
Speaker 1: I definitely adjusted. Uh you know, I don't think I
Speaker 1: will ever be you know, used to it. But you
Speaker 1: know I've I've learned to cope with it, you know,
Speaker 1: layer up and Uh. I know that if I step outside,
Speaker 1: just be outside for as little as possible, uh and
Speaker 1: do what I need to do. But you know I've adjusted.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm getting there, I'm getting used to it. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Was that the first time you would have had ever
Speaker 1: seen snow? Uh in North Dakota? Yeah? It was. It
Speaker 1: was were you like trying to maybe get back on
Speaker 1: the plane and go back to let me change my
Speaker 1: my decision on that. I mean I stepped outside, uh
Speaker 1: when it was snow for the first time, and I
Speaker 1: enjoyed it for maybe like three minutes, yeah, and then
Speaker 1: went inside and haven't enjoyed it since. But no, I
Speaker 1: hear you just weird. My my brother and I grew
Speaker 1: up in l A. We do the show from l A.
Speaker 1: My brother moved to Appleton, which is right near Green Bay,
Speaker 1: and so I went to visit him, uh last year actually,
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa, it was a whole a
Speaker 1: whole different world and all that. Uh. Do you do
Speaker 1: you go out much of you? You mostly just stay
Speaker 1: at home when you're in Green Bay? I mean you
Speaker 1: have you you were there last year? Do you have
Speaker 1: your routine down? Are you pretty much just a home body?
Speaker 1: You know. I mean I've always been a home body,
Speaker 1: you know. You and then Tampa. Uh, never you know,
Speaker 1: got out too much. You know, I enjoyed just uh,
Speaker 1: you know, chilling obviously. You know when I'm when I'm
Speaker 1: doing you know, football stuff. When I was doing school stuff,
Speaker 1: school and football, it was always you know, super busy.
Speaker 1: So you know when whenever I had some free time,
Speaker 1: I I always enjoyed just no chilling at the crib. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I mean if I needed, if I need to
Speaker 1: step out, uh you know, grab something to eat or
Speaker 1: you know, find something fun and doing green behind me
Speaker 1: that there's there's stuff to do. So I've enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Great cheese, the cheese creates very good. The pizza not bad.
Speaker 1: It was a good pizza the Mars Cheese Museum. And
Speaker 1: you're talking about that on the podcast. You got to
Speaker 1: drive down there, too much of a drive. Exactly which
Speaker 1: of your packer teammates would we find you hanging with
Speaker 1: the most often? Um, honestly, I would just say the
Speaker 1: whole wide receiver group. You know, I feel like the
Speaker 1: the entire wide receiver core was was really tighten it. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, any time you know one of us are
Speaker 1: a couple of us were hanging out, it was it
Speaker 1: was honestly all of us. Uh so, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the the entire wider super corp was was was pretty close.
Speaker 1: I gotta give you credit. Now, Christian Watchings is here
Speaker 1: and normally the way this works, Danny is you have
Speaker 1: like you hold up a product and you're not doing
Speaker 1: I love that You're just here to talk some football
Speaker 1: and hang out with us, and I'm just, yeah, what
Speaker 1: do you think of all this? Uh, it's it's it's
Speaker 1: it's craziness, but uh it's dope. It's obviously my first
Speaker 1: time in METEA row and then doing stuff like this
Speaker 1: for the super Bowl. So I'm having a good time. Awesome,
Speaker 1: what's great to meet you. Thanks for coming on with
Speaker 1: Oh that's right. Yeah we are we are contractually obligated
Speaker 1: by the powers that be. And you have an opinion
Speaker 1: on the game. Who do you see? Um? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm I don't you know, care too much about who wins.
Speaker 1: I just want to watch a watch a really good game.
Speaker 1: But you know, I've just been staying in NFC. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Eagles. Okay, you know, you know,
Speaker 1: like go to a big party. What's the plane You're
Speaker 1: watched by yourself with family, and I know I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna watch the at home with my fiance. Just probably
Speaker 1: makes some advertisers. Make some food, uh, and enjoy the game.
Speaker 1: You gotta break the diet, man, it's the Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: You gotta pick out. I know, your professional athlete, but
Speaker 1: you gotta live. You gotta live life, Christian, I can,
Speaker 1: I I can put on a few pounds, exactly, Man.
Speaker 1: You don't have to worry about it for a couple
Speaker 1: of months. What's your what's your go to like? Your
Speaker 1: favorite Super Bowl food? Honestly, probably some probably some caso
Speaker 1: chips in cases or like or like a buffalo chicken dip. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about the guacamole? Always promote guacamole this day. I'm
Speaker 1: not a big wak guy. I'm not. I enjoyed guak
Speaker 1: by definitely. I definitely prefer prefer a case over a
Speaker 1: solid move told you he had good tastes exactly. All right, Well, Christian,
Speaker 1: thanks to come up by man, I appreciate it. Good
Speaker 1: luck to you with the packers and we'll see what happens.
Speaker 1: Thanks many, thank you. All right, that was very cool
Speaker 1: Christian Watkins hanging out with us here in the fifth hour. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice guy. So I guess I now have to be
Speaker 1: a Christian? Do I have to suck up to him
Speaker 1: now because he came on the podcast. I don't know
Speaker 1: how this works, Dad, You know, if he drops an
Speaker 1: important past next season, you're gonna say this, moron pass, No,
Speaker 1: I will, I will actually do that, you know you
Speaker 1: that wasn't a good looking Kobe shirt that yet. Uh.
Speaker 1: Now we have another big name that is popping up here.
Speaker 1: We cannot say who. But in the meantime, this being
Speaker 1: the Sunday Podcast, Now, this is a great testimonial to
Speaker 1: the fans, the p Ones, Dandy g in, the Mallar
Speaker 1: militia that love this show. Because I did not promote
Speaker 1: the mail bag and and I was like, I always
Speaker 1: have this neurosis when I don't promote things. Well, no
Speaker 1: one's gonna send questions. And we we got a bunch
Speaker 1: of questions in the mail bag, people that do not
Speaker 1: send them in on Facebook, that emailed them in. And
Speaker 1: so we'll do some of that right now. I think
Speaker 1: we should do that right now, what do you say, Well,
Speaker 1: have a mall or mail bag and we don't need
Speaker 1: Ohio all this week. Right, We're good on that. Wow,
Speaker 1: you get the week off to just enjoy the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl festivities wherever you maybe exactly all right, So the
Speaker 1: mail bag, these are actual questions send in by actual listeners.
Speaker 1: If you'd like to be part of the mail bag
Speaker 1: for next week, you can send your questions in right now.
Speaker 1: You don't have to wait. Send them in care of
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Speaker 1: uh So. The first question comes from Pierre in Springfield,
Speaker 1: mass home of the Pro Basketball Hall of Fame, and
Speaker 1: that is where Muffett mcgraws and trying. He says, Hey, Bannon,
Speaker 1: Danny Gee. He says, as someone who lives far from civilization,
Speaker 1: I often struggle doing cost benefit analysis and whether or
Speaker 1: not to drive for takeout as a recovering large man, Ben,
Speaker 1: how far will you go to pick up take out?
Speaker 1: The closest this decent option to me is twenty to
Speaker 1: thirty minutes away. All Right, So that's a great question, Pierre,
Speaker 1: and and you can answer this is what we like it.
Speaker 1: We like a nice meal. Um. I'm now at the point,
Speaker 1: since I've started learning how to cook where I would
Speaker 1: rather invest the time on having making what I want
Speaker 1: in in the kitchen myself. Um. So the answer the
Speaker 1: question is no, I would not drive thirty minutes unless
Speaker 1: it was like rare and appropriate. But if it's something
Speaker 1: I can go to it anytime, Like I'm here in Arizona.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite restaurants is from Wisconsin. We had
Speaker 1: Christian Watkins on Culver's, which is a Wisconsin chain. I
Speaker 1: think it's great. My wife hates it, but I love it.
Speaker 1: And uh and I was like, oh, you know it's
Speaker 1: they don't have in California. So we'll go, we'll hang out,
Speaker 1: we'll have some of that and all that. But um,
Speaker 1: but that's because we're traveling, but back back home not
Speaker 1: doing it. What about you, Danny, Yeah, especially when you
Speaker 1: get into a serious relationship. Whether or not your girl
Speaker 1: can cook, that's one thing. And also and in in
Speaker 1: your case, Ben, you're a good cook. I'm not. But
Speaker 1: the farthest my girl will go for food outside of
Speaker 1: our own kitchen is ten minutes away. There's a ten
Speaker 1: minute rule. It's a ten minute rule. It's the fish grill.
Speaker 1: It's ten minutes away. You gotta get on the freeway
Speaker 1: to go there. And she acts like that is going
Speaker 1: to northern California. Well, and I have to say to Pierre,
Speaker 1: when I was at my fattest, I'm the guy that
Speaker 1: we'd be like, you know, I want Taco Bell, but
Speaker 1: I kind of like some fries, and I think I
Speaker 1: feel like Carl's Jr. Fie man. So I would go
Speaker 1: through multiple drive your own accommodation. But then I'm like
Speaker 1: do I I would like, do I get the Taco
Speaker 1: Bell first? Do I get the fries first? You know?
Speaker 1: What do I do? I always would go taco is
Speaker 1: a fatast move right me at my heaviest I could
Speaker 1: understand that a little bit because I remember going through
Speaker 1: one drive through and it not being fulfilling because I'm thinking, yeah,
Speaker 1: but I was also craving this. Always get a short
Speaker 1: order here and then I'll add on to it there.
Speaker 1: And I think, what's your record three places I have done?
Speaker 1: I have done three? Yeah, I have done. If you've
Speaker 1: gone over three, you might be on a TV show
Speaker 1: on the TLC channel with a crane. Yeah there, Well,
Speaker 1: the chance to make some money on that, you can
Speaker 1: cash in on that. Who is next on the mail bag?
Speaker 1: We've got Kevin in Kansas who writes and he says,
Speaker 1: dear Ben and Danny g cleaning out my shirt drawer
Speaker 1: last week. Well, that's the kind of thing we need
Speaker 1: an update on that. That is what Kevin is doing.
Speaker 1: He says. I realized how many old school shirts I
Speaker 1: have in Polos I own. He says, T shirts Polos
Speaker 1: and all that. All of them were given to teachers
Speaker 1: by the school. That makes me wonder how much company
Speaker 1: gear you own? And what's the nicest company gift you've
Speaker 1: ever received? So your here right now? No, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is probably this is probably up there, but but no
Speaker 1: back I'm trying to be like back in the back
Speaker 1: in the day. Let's see, we got a backpack that
Speaker 1: was pretty I gotta I gotten more than one. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I have so many different backpacks you have, you have
Speaker 1: a ge backpack. I have I have because every year
Speaker 1: for the these radio stations don't know what they give.
Speaker 1: They give bags out every year, you know bags uh,
Speaker 1: a cell phone charger one year, remember got we got that,
Speaker 1: the speaker, a bluetooth, remember the speaker. Those are all
Speaker 1: things Fox has given out that I would say the
Speaker 1: most valuable thing that we ever had when I started.
Speaker 1: When I left San Diego and I was working at
Speaker 1: the mighty six ninety and they started Extra Sports eleven
Speaker 1: fifty in l A. They had this huge marketing budget
Speaker 1: and so they had this huge campaign. They billboards up
Speaker 1: and all this. I was not in any of the billboards,
Speaker 1: but they gave us for photos. You know those letterman
Speaker 1: jackets you'd get in high school at the really expensive
Speaker 1: letterman jackets with the patches, and so they made for
Speaker 1: the radio station. They made a letterman's jacket. It was
Speaker 1: the right size and everything. Yeah, I know it fit.
Speaker 1: I still have it. It's still in great shape and
Speaker 1: it's held up and I have if you want any
Speaker 1: old T shirts, hats, any of that. Danny from radio stations,
Speaker 1: my wife we when we moved the last time, and
Speaker 1: to you, Kevin um, she wanted to get rid of
Speaker 1: that stuff. And I don't know I should have gotten
Speaker 1: rid of it, but I just kind of held on it.
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's I'm the same. I feel like
Speaker 1: that's the stuff you need to save and it's better.
Speaker 1: That might be better than my number one answer on
Speaker 1: the board maybe five years ago at our Christmas party,
Speaker 1: remember when our bosses had the prostitutes up on the
Speaker 1: seventh floor. That was a great well. And that's the
Speaker 1: gift that keeps giving, because you know, that's a surprise.
Speaker 1: When you get done with the the prostitutes're like, whoa
Speaker 1: wait a minute. They they've got a special gift for
Speaker 1: you that pops up a couple of days later. All right.
Speaker 1: Next up on the mail bag, we've got Mike from
Speaker 1: Fuller to no relation to fur Dog Danny. This is
Speaker 1: not this could not be furg Dog. This is Mike
Speaker 1: from Fuller To in in southern California, home of the Titans,
Speaker 1: the cal State Fullerton Titans, whose rival is you see
Speaker 1: Irvine be and Eaters Mike and Fullerton rights. And he says, hey, Bannon, Danny,
Speaker 1: g did you guys hear Mexico banned all shark cage tourism.
Speaker 1: I did not hear this, is that true. I didn't
Speaker 1: hear that either. He says, you regret not getting in
Speaker 1: the water with a great white shark while you had
Speaker 1: the chance. And speaking of the ocean, do either of
Speaker 1: you have any good fireboat stories. I'd love to hear one. Oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: there you go, man. Yeah. Last week, last week you
Speaker 1: mentioned you had some San Francis. This is all time
Speaker 1: great stories. Look at that. We're running out of time.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to blow off. I guess this is
Speaker 1: a better story. So I'm gonna go way back. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna date myself. We're good. They don't need no, We're
Speaker 1: all right, we don't need nothing. We're solid. So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go back to when they opened up the new
Speaker 1: ballpark in San Francisco, the Giants new stadium, which at
Speaker 1: that time, yeah, it was called pac Bell at the time.
Speaker 1: At open. So I was doing local radio and we
Speaker 1: thought Dodgers and Giants, great rivalry. This was a huge deal.
Speaker 1: The Giants had played at Candlestick Park for a long
Speaker 1: long time. The new ballpark, beautiful stadium, and so we
Speaker 1: did a promotion. The Dodgers opened up the stadium against
Speaker 1: the Giants, and so we all went up. The marketing
Speaker 1: guys had this great idea, We're gonna go in a
Speaker 1: pirate ship and McCovey cove outside the but we didn't
Speaker 1: know it was McCovey Cole. We just we're going the
Speaker 1: water outside the ballpark and we're going to you know
Speaker 1: show where we're with the Kings of the Giants ballpark
Speaker 1: or whatever it was. So I'm on a boat with
Speaker 1: Dave Smith, the guy that I did the show with,
Speaker 1: Vic the Brick and uh, who's a big radio star
Speaker 1: at M five seven. If you're not familiar with Victor
Speaker 1: Brick around the country, he worked at Fox Sports Radio.
Speaker 1: So Vick was there. There were some of the other
Speaker 1: hosts that were part of this, and there were a
Speaker 1: bunch of sponsors. And so the bit we were broadcasting
Speaker 1: live from the pirate ship and we're going around the water.
Speaker 1: There's beautiful. It was perfect. It was a day game,
Speaker 1: it was perfect weather. It was awesome. What could so
Speaker 1: And of course Vic and I believe it was a
Speaker 1: Martinez who has become a big star in public radio.
Speaker 1: He does like public radio and nationally, I believe, but
Speaker 1: a Martinez and vic were dressed up as pirates, and
Speaker 1: we are cruising through and everyone's having a great time
Speaker 1: through the waterway right there outside the ballpark, and we
Speaker 1: see a San Francisco fireboat off in the distance. We're like, okay, whatever,
Speaker 1: and the fireboat comes at us and it turns on
Speaker 1: the all of the hoses from the fireboat to flood
Speaker 1: to flood our boat. So you see people, these are
Speaker 1: big time business people who are big sponsors of the
Speaker 1: radio station, jumping underneath trying to get away from the lord.
Speaker 1: You do. I had no idea, Danny. I admit I'm
Speaker 1: naive on this one. It looks when you were looking
Speaker 1: at a fireboat, it looks really majestic. The water streaming out.
Speaker 1: It is an insane amount of money when it's raining,
Speaker 1: when it's coming down on top of your head. There
Speaker 1: the water from the fire hoses. It's nuts. It's absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: Because can b R had I don't know whether they
Speaker 1: knew somebody at the fire department or something like that.
Speaker 1: They thought, okay, radio rivalry. Yeah, so we're gonna get
Speaker 1: these idiots dressed up as fire as it was the
Speaker 1: funny vic the brick. I will never forget to my
Speaker 1: last breath here Vix one of the great characters. I'll
Speaker 1: never forget him standing up in a totally disheveled in
Speaker 1: a pirate costume, soaking way and in furious first shower weeks.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, it was nuts. So it was absolutely nuts. So, uh, Danny,
Speaker 1: and so that is my fireboat story. On the mailbag,
Speaker 1: A good job by you, Mike Cei. I was worried
Speaker 1: if somebody didn't bring that up. I was not going to.
Speaker 1: I was not gonna bring it up. But but he did.
Speaker 1: Next up on the mailbag, we have Barry in Nashville,
Speaker 1: the Music City. Barry writes in he says, yo yo mo, Benny.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you have told this story, but I don't
Speaker 1: recall it. Can you tell us how you ended up
Speaker 1: meeting and befriending the great Fred Dryer? Yeah. Well Fred
Speaker 1: was actually a listener to the show, and we have
Speaker 1: mutual friends, and so that's that's how that that happened.
Speaker 1: Fred was like, he's up late sometimes and he was listening,
Speaker 1: and uh. And then a friend we had a mutual
Speaker 1: friend who introduced me, and then we had Fred on
Speaker 1: and Fred's come on a few times. It was great
Speaker 1: having him on this week some of those old school
Speaker 1: stories about the seventies and the eighties is that he
Speaker 1: was doing was awesome. It was amazing. Well, that's good
Speaker 1: for the mail bag right now, right, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: we have a guest stepping up. Be sure to catch
Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two
Speaker 1: am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and
Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. Alright, and that guest is
Speaker 1: here now, that's right. And New Orleans they want super
Speaker 1: bowls with both those teams, and and now he's hanging
Speaker 1: out on radio row or was it media role? That
Speaker 1: doesn't sound as good to be there. He is right there, Malcolm, welcome,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, I appreciate you put some respect
Speaker 1: on it. That's right, the one and old there is
Speaker 1: no sequel. Yeah, yeah, you're enjoying this. How many of
Speaker 1: these things have you done? Too many? I'm like, let's see,
Speaker 1: if I played thirteen years, I played in two Super Bowls,
Speaker 1: so that means eleven, it would be twelve, now twelve,
Speaker 1: So you're gonna go to You're not gonna go autopilot
Speaker 1: on us, right, No, no, no no, no, I just had
Speaker 1: a coffee. I'm good. You didn't study like sports cliche
Speaker 1: dot com back when we were playing at all. You
Speaker 1: didn't get into that. You kept it real there. So
Speaker 1: you know, you've obviously just played it not that long ago.
Speaker 1: You're now done, but you still know a bunch of
Speaker 1: these guys, right, is it? Is it awkward you're pulling
Speaker 1: for Philadelphia? I would assume yeah, yeah, but it's a
Speaker 1: different team. Like you know, it's only the guys that
Speaker 1: I played with. You got the Kelsey Um, Brandon Graham,
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Um, a few of the younger guys Vonte Maddox,
Speaker 1: uh sees are Gonna Johnson I was with in New
Speaker 1: Orleans and UM super excited about what he's doing in Philly.
Speaker 1: But you know, other than that, everybody else is kind
Speaker 1: of actually I'm lying. Josh Sweat was there, Marcus? Is
Speaker 1: this a lot of the young talent, the new guys?
Speaker 1: You know? I don't know, but um, they've had a
Speaker 1: strong core of players that you know, have been there
Speaker 1: and been able to kind of, you know, keep the culture,
Speaker 1: uh intact. Yeah, so I have someboddies to do radio
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. They tell me, I didn't I heard you
Speaker 1: were coming up. They the love affair between the Eagle
Speaker 1: fans and you in Philadelphia. What not that they didn't
Speaker 1: love you in New Orleans? Right, you played there multiple times.
Speaker 1: But what was it like for you, because there was
Speaker 1: like this bond, the way they loved the way that
Speaker 1: you played in Philadelphia? What was that like? Well, I'm
Speaker 1: from New Jersey, so so I understood, you know a
Speaker 1: few things about what it means to you know, grow
Speaker 1: up in that kind of area. Um and I embodied
Speaker 1: that in my play. And so you know, I knew
Speaker 1: trying to come and play safety for Philadelphia. The automatic
Speaker 1: thing people are gonna do is compare you to Brian Dawkins.
Speaker 1: And when I looked at what he did, he just
Speaker 1: played with phenomenal passion. You know, I wasn't afraid of anybody.
Speaker 1: Was a smaller guy. Um well, he played like a giant,
Speaker 1: but realistically he was, you know, not the biggest safety
Speaker 1: out there, but played like a giant. And so for me,
Speaker 1: you know, I made up my mind that I was
Speaker 1: just gonna do me. I was gonna talk trash, I
Speaker 1: was not gonna back down from any body. I fight
Speaker 1: if I need to. And those are the things really
Speaker 1: that Philadelphia values. That's their fan base, right, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what made that connection so special between me
Speaker 1: and the city. And then obviously all the things that
Speaker 1: I've I've dove head first into trying to make, um,
Speaker 1: you know, an impact on that city in a positive
Speaker 1: way in the community and in every aspect that I could,
Speaker 1: and and it came back to me, you know, with
Speaker 1: with love. So I think it's the reciprocity there that,
Speaker 1: um you just don't get to see with you know,
Speaker 1: a ton of players, and for me, it's been phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Where do you spend most of your time since playing? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I'm split between New Orleans and Philadelphia. My kids
Speaker 1: are down in New Orleans, so I'm there most of
Speaker 1: the time. But I'm finding every opportunity that i can
Speaker 1: to get back up. What you think about Derek Carr
Speaker 1: and the Saints and maybe it working out for for
Speaker 1: Derek to go there to New Orleans. I mean it's
Speaker 1: a good situation, you know. They they are looking for
Speaker 1: just some stability at the quarterback position, a veteran who's
Speaker 1: proven that can do some things, good locker room guy,
Speaker 1: um because because to have a hell of a defense
Speaker 1: and they for the last three four years, they've had
Speaker 1: a defense that's only really gotten better. They just need,
Speaker 1: you know, some some balance to be able to play
Speaker 1: complimentary football weekend and week out. And I think, you know,
Speaker 1: it's been rough the last few years between Drew retiring him,
Speaker 1: you know, being a little bit older in his career,
Speaker 1: him getting banged up, and then two years in the
Speaker 1: road they've had quarterbacks banged up. Has just been rough.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, quarterback is obviously something they need
Speaker 1: to address if the Saints want to have any success. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the way that you played.
Speaker 1: Like the NFL, it's changed, It's changed as you've been playing.
Speaker 1: It's changed. Like what do you think is gonna happen
Speaker 1: five years from ten? You if you were in charge,
Speaker 1: what would you do it? If I was in charge,
Speaker 1: I would find quarterbacks and ball carriers for getting knocked
Speaker 1: out and getting hurt, because like I would always get
Speaker 1: mad when they throw a ball across the middle of
Speaker 1: my job is to not allow you to catch the ball.
Speaker 1: But then I get fined. Well what about these rules
Speaker 1: with the tackling? Like how are in real time? I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I I played high school football.
Speaker 1: You play really good, but I don't understand, Like, how
Speaker 1: are you supposed to do at a millisecond? It's a joke,
Speaker 1: I mean, But but realistically, the NFL always responds to
Speaker 1: his fan base, right, So when things happen, t O
Speaker 1: got hurt way back in the day, and what they do.
Speaker 1: They banned horse collar tackles, all right, the wrong the
Speaker 1: star player gets hurt, they'll change rules for that. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, when things are coming out and the game
Speaker 1: gets a little bit too violent, they will change the
Speaker 1: game for that, right, just because the fans, whatever they say,
Speaker 1: they'll respond to in the league. The NFL does that
Speaker 1: better than any league or business out there. Spends the narrative,
Speaker 1: changes it so people can feel connected to the game
Speaker 1: and still watch it and feel good about it, um,
Speaker 1: regardless of what it really means for the players. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when you were when you were some of those
Speaker 1: penalties you your reaction, You're like, you're looking at the officials,
Speaker 1: like what did I think? At the replayers? But but
Speaker 1: some of those things are necessary. Like and like you said,
Speaker 1: it's changed a lot even while I was playing. I
Speaker 1: came in two thousand nine, and you know, it was
Speaker 1: still a little bit of old school where you're trying
Speaker 1: to like tee off on guys. Uh. And I realized that,
Speaker 1: like I was hurting myself a lot trying to hurt
Speaker 1: other people, right, And then you see what Seattle was doing,
Speaker 1: and they changed more to like a gator role type
Speaker 1: of tackle, a rugby style tackle that gets your head
Speaker 1: out of the way. And I changed to that, and
Speaker 1: next you know, I didn't miss a game for eight
Speaker 1: straight seasons just because I played the game different, more
Speaker 1: cognizant about my own health and it's important. So I
Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of balance. But I do
Speaker 1: think some of some of the things that they do
Speaker 1: don't make any sense. Uh, even you know when they
Speaker 1: did the whole heads up football campaign, playing with your
Speaker 1: head up, save your neck. Not that don't stop you
Speaker 1: from getting but it makes us feel better about it.
Speaker 1: But is there really away, Like we talk about this
Speaker 1: on the radio show Idea, you can't totally make football.
Speaker 1: There's always no it's not a safe What what are
Speaker 1: we doing here? There's no safe way to play the game.
Speaker 1: You will get hurt. It's a re rate. Every single
Speaker 1: player who plays football will get hurt. You have to
Speaker 1: and then so it's just about the severity, uh, and
Speaker 1: the types of injuries that you have. We can deal
Speaker 1: with muscles and lower extremities, but we talk about your
Speaker 1: quality of life moving on from the game. That's where
Speaker 1: you're looking at your brain, UM, your your organs, and
Speaker 1: the way you take care of your body, what you
Speaker 1: put into your body. Those things I think are very important.
Speaker 1: And brock Purty found that out real fast. Do you
Speaker 1: think they're gonna get to my homes often? I mean,
Speaker 1: do you know that's the game plan right he's I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously we'll see what his health looks like with a
Speaker 1: larger gap now two weeks off before having to play
Speaker 1: another game with that ankle. But you got to imagine
Speaker 1: that the Eagles entire game plan is going to be
Speaker 1: get to Patrick Mahomes as fast as possible. But I
Speaker 1: think you know, patter smart man. Patrick knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: He knows how to get the ball out of his hands,
Speaker 1: he knows how to manipulate the defense. UH. And and
Speaker 1: I think what the Eagles need to do mostly is
Speaker 1: keep him from extending to play if they can keep
Speaker 1: him from going off schedule, UH, and get pressure on
Speaker 1: them that way. I think they'll be. I think they'll have,
Speaker 1: you know, all the success that they want. What about
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts here? Because he's not in some of these
Speaker 1: playoff games. He hasn't played particularly great. The numbers aren't wonderful,
Speaker 1: The numbers a small sample size. He plays the game
Speaker 1: the way it needs to be played. He's not worried
Speaker 1: about the stats or the only stat that matters is
Speaker 1: did they win? And how much? Did they win? By?
Speaker 1: A lot? So it's like, if you're the quarterback and
Speaker 1: y'all win by twenty four or more, what do you mean?
Speaker 1: You're punching back, Malcolm against the criticism of Jalen Hursts.
Speaker 1: They've been bouncing around a little. They wanted to look
Speaker 1: a certain way, but Jalen Hurts his game has never
Speaker 1: looked like what people wanted to look. And that's what
Speaker 1: that's really the whole rhetoric around him. And that's why
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed his ability to just stay poised and
Speaker 1: focused on what matters right, and the winds are all
Speaker 1: that matter right and and all this all he's done
Speaker 1: every single day is show up, answer the questions, go
Speaker 1: to work and perform and win. Speaking of what matters
Speaker 1: you're an author. Yeah, congratulations, that's uh. You've got a
Speaker 1: new books coming out this week? Is this all right?
Speaker 1: We announced it this week, it comes out. It comes
Speaker 1: out in November, but people can preorder it now any
Speaker 1: major book retailer Amazon. It's called What Winners Won't Tell
Speaker 1: Your Lessons from a legendary defender. It's just in the
Speaker 1: can now you've already written it, or because I wanted
Speaker 1: to write a book, I've been talking to people. It's
Speaker 1: a pain of the blood to do this right, and
Speaker 1: it is a lot of work. It's a labor of
Speaker 1: love for sure, but man would have almost all pictures.
Speaker 1: But as you know, the hardest part is there coming
Speaker 1: up with what you want to say, like what is
Speaker 1: your message and understanding that like, not everything's gonna fit
Speaker 1: in the book, right, it's not my whole life. It's
Speaker 1: not an expose, a or a tell all. But realistically,
Speaker 1: I just finished a thirteen year career, done a lot
Speaker 1: of different things in that span of time, have a
Speaker 1: lot of different experiences, and it's like, how do I
Speaker 1: contextualize and crystallize all of that and and be able
Speaker 1: to disseminate that in ways that can help people. So
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a single father dealing with you know,
Speaker 1: all of the pressures of being a dad. People can
Speaker 1: relate to that, you know, whether it be athletes who
Speaker 1: want to understand what it takes to be great, or
Speaker 1: the business side of sports. People want to know those
Speaker 1: things leadership. Um. You know, there's so many different things
Speaker 1: that I've learned, and what I've done is taking all
Speaker 1: of those lessons and and just really telling my story
Speaker 1: kind of through this this uh weave of my family,
Speaker 1: my career, uh in business. And you've got Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: he's doing the how did you get he's he's doing
Speaker 1: the beginning the four That was a long shot. You know,
Speaker 1: He's been by far my favorite person to compete against
Speaker 1: my entire career. Just I've got so much respect for
Speaker 1: who he is as a competitor, what he's done and
Speaker 1: and it's not really until he just retired where you
Speaker 1: really sit back and take inventory, but the fact that
Speaker 1: I got to compete my entire career against probably the
Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that will ever play this game. Um, And
Speaker 1: so you know, when I reach out, it was definitely
Speaker 1: a long shot. UM. I think the last time, I
Speaker 1: think it helps that the last significant game we played
Speaker 1: he won, right, That helped a little bit, But no,
Speaker 1: I think I think we we have a mutual respect for,
Speaker 1: you know, each other's game and how we approached the game,
Speaker 1: how we approach our locker rooms, our teammates, and just
Speaker 1: what we mean to the game of football. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: think he's gonna come back and play a game. I
Speaker 1: think he's done for really three months from now, We're
Speaker 1: not going to see him back, you know what. I
Speaker 1: can't say for a hundred percent, but I think I
Speaker 1: would if I was a betting man, I would say,
Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's finally putting it down.
Speaker 1: What about the TV stuff? You think he'll he'll do that?
Speaker 1: Really he'll go forward with that? Yeah, now that stuff,
Speaker 1: I don't know how long he'll like that. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: A lot of these guys were struggling with it, you know,
Speaker 1: like even he saw Drew had a plan and he
Speaker 1: stepped down from it. It's you know, it's one of
Speaker 1: those things that I think as players were in it,
Speaker 1: and so it's very easy to talk about the game,
Speaker 1: but television is a little different. When you gotta start
Speaker 1: criticizing guys and coming up with hot takes. And all
Speaker 1: those things like Joe Montana couldn't do it way back.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to criticize. I didn't want to criticize.
Speaker 1: And that's that's part of you, like you know your
Speaker 1: little us, right you got, I got to give a gap.
Speaker 1: But I'm the same way. I don't really. I know
Speaker 1: how hard it is. I know how hard these players work,
Speaker 1: I know how competitive the talent is, and so it's
Speaker 1: hard for me to say how this person sucks. So
Speaker 1: this person is not good. And it's because it's all relative, right,
Speaker 1: it's relatively to the best in the world. To Davante Adams, Yes,
Speaker 1: that guy looks sure for sure. All right, well we'll
Speaker 1: get you out of here on that, Malcolm. Thank you.
Speaker 1: And again the book if you want to get it
Speaker 1: not available to November. You can prepreder preorder book. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a great book. What winners won't tell your
Speaker 1: lessons from a legendary defender and a beloved Philadelphia Eagle
Speaker 1: and a bunch of Pro Bowls and all that. Speaking
Speaker 1: of that, I know you're gonna pick the Eagles. You
Speaker 1: gotta score them. I don't think it'll be close. I
Speaker 1: think they'll win. I think they'll win. Actually, I think
Speaker 1: they'll win by a touchdown. I don't know what school.
Speaker 1: They'll win by a touchdown, but it won't be close
Speaker 1: though score and a late score that will make it
Speaker 1: within seven, but I think they'll be in control. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna put my son's college money on that bag there
Speaker 1: it is. Don't come looking for me Jenkins h and
Speaker 1: that will do us for us anything. Radio row where
Speaker 1: we are out of here. Now back to the reality
Speaker 1: of the day to day grind. That's right, see you
Speaker 1: back on Fox Sports Radio. You'll be back on talking
Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl tonight on the overnight uh all
Speaker 1: over the country there at two am to six am
Speaker 1: Eastern Time coast. Yes, and I'll be back on Afternoon
Speaker 1: Drive with Covino and Rich on Monday afternoon, and then
Speaker 1: the podcast will jump back into effect next weekend, so
Speaker 1: you can't wait for that. Absolutely, have a great rest
Speaker 1: of your day, enjoy the Super Bowl, and we will
Speaker 1: catch you next time. Later, Skater,