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Speaker 1: weekend long here from Super Bowl fifty seven the iconic

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Speaker 1: This guy came on like game busters this year in

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Speaker 1: fifth Yeah, what this year? You know, you would admit

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Speaker 1: Next up on the mailbag, we have Barry in Nashville,

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Speaker 1: the Music City. Barry writes in he says, yo yo mo, Benny.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you have told this story, but I don't

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Speaker 1: recall it. Can you tell us how you ended up

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Speaker 1: meeting and befriending the great Fred Dryer? Yeah. Well Fred

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Speaker 1: was actually a listener to the show, and we have

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Speaker 1: mutual friends, and so that's that's how that that happened.

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Speaker 1: Fred was like, he's up late sometimes and he was listening,

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Speaker 1: and uh. And then a friend we had a mutual

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Speaker 1: friend who introduced me, and then we had Fred on

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Speaker 1: and Fred's come on a few times. It was great

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Speaker 1: having him on this week some of those old school

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Speaker 1: stories about the seventies and the eighties is that he

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Speaker 1: was doing was awesome. It was amazing. Well, that's good

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Speaker 1: for the mail bag right now, right, yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: we have a guest stepping up. Be sure to catch

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Speaker 1: live editions of The Ben Maller Show weekdays at two

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Speaker 1: am Eastern eleven pm Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and

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Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio app. Alright, and that guest is

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Speaker 1: here now, that's right. And New Orleans they want super

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Speaker 1: bowls with both those teams, and and now he's hanging

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Speaker 1: out on radio row or was it media role? That

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound as good to be there. He is right there, Malcolm, welcome,

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Speaker 1: what's going on? Yeah, I appreciate you put some respect

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Speaker 1: on it. That's right, the one and old there is

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Speaker 1: no sequel. Yeah, yeah, you're enjoying this. How many of

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Speaker 1: these things have you done? Too many? I'm like, let's see,

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Speaker 1: if I played thirteen years, I played in two Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: so that means eleven, it would be twelve, now twelve,

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna go to You're not gonna go autopilot

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Speaker 1: on us, right, No, no, no no, no, I just had

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Speaker 1: a coffee. I'm good. You didn't study like sports cliche

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Speaker 1: dot com back when we were playing at all. You

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Speaker 1: didn't get into that. You kept it real there. So

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Speaker 1: you know, you've obviously just played it not that long ago.

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Speaker 1: You're now done, but you still know a bunch of

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Speaker 1: these guys, right, is it? Is it awkward you're pulling

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Speaker 1: for Philadelphia? I would assume yeah, yeah, but it's a

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Speaker 1: different team. Like you know, it's only the guys that

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Speaker 1: I played with. You got the Kelsey Um, Brandon Graham,

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Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox, Um, a few of the younger guys Vonte Maddox,

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Speaker 1: uh sees are Gonna Johnson I was with in New

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Speaker 1: Orleans and UM super excited about what he's doing in Philly.

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Speaker 1: But you know, other than that, everybody else is kind

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Speaker 1: of actually I'm lying. Josh Sweat was there, Marcus? Is

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Speaker 1: this a lot of the young talent, the new guys?

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Speaker 1: You know? I don't know, but um, they've had a

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Speaker 1: strong core of players that you know, have been there

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Speaker 1: and been able to kind of, you know, keep the culture,

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Speaker 1: uh intact. Yeah, so I have someboddies to do radio

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Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. They tell me, I didn't I heard you

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Speaker 1: were coming up. They the love affair between the Eagle

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Speaker 1: fans and you in Philadelphia. What not that they didn't

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Speaker 1: love you in New Orleans? Right, you played there multiple times.

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Speaker 1: But what was it like for you, because there was

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Speaker 1: like this bond, the way they loved the way that

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Speaker 1: you played in Philadelphia? What was that like? Well, I'm

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Speaker 1: from New Jersey, so so I understood, you know a

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Speaker 1: few things about what it means to you know, grow

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Speaker 1: up in that kind of area. Um and I embodied

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Speaker 1: that in my play. And so you know, I knew

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Speaker 1: trying to come and play safety for Philadelphia. The automatic

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Speaker 1: thing people are gonna do is compare you to Brian Dawkins.

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Speaker 1: And when I looked at what he did, he just

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Speaker 1: played with phenomenal passion. You know, I wasn't afraid of anybody.

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Speaker 1: Was a smaller guy. Um well, he played like a giant,

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Speaker 1: but realistically he was, you know, not the biggest safety

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Speaker 1: out there, but played like a giant. And so for me,

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Speaker 1: you know, I made up my mind that I was

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Speaker 1: just gonna do me. I was gonna talk trash, I

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Speaker 1: was not gonna back down from any body. I fight

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Speaker 1: if I need to. And those are the things really

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Speaker 1: that Philadelphia values. That's their fan base, right, and I

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Speaker 1: think that's what made that connection so special between me

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Speaker 1: and the city. And then obviously all the things that

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Speaker 1: I've I've dove head first into trying to make, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, an impact on that city in a positive

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Speaker 1: way in the community and in every aspect that I could,

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Speaker 1: and and it came back to me, you know, with

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Speaker 1: with love. So I think it's the reciprocity there that,

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Speaker 1: um you just don't get to see with you know,

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Speaker 1: a ton of players, and for me, it's been phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: Where do you spend most of your time since playing? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm split between New Orleans and Philadelphia. My kids

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Speaker 1: are down in New Orleans, so I'm there most of

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Speaker 1: the time. But I'm finding every opportunity that i can

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Speaker 1: to get back up. What you think about Derek Carr

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Speaker 1: and the Saints and maybe it working out for for

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Speaker 1: Derek to go there to New Orleans. I mean it's

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Speaker 1: a good situation, you know. They they are looking for

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Speaker 1: just some stability at the quarterback position, a veteran who's

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Speaker 1: proven that can do some things, good locker room guy,

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Speaker 1: um because because to have a hell of a defense

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Speaker 1: and they for the last three four years, they've had

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Speaker 1: a defense that's only really gotten better. They just need,

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Speaker 1: you know, some some balance to be able to play

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Speaker 1: complimentary football weekend and week out. And I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been rough the last few years between Drew retiring him,

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Speaker 1: you know, being a little bit older in his career,

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Speaker 1: him getting banged up, and then two years in the

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Speaker 1: road they've had quarterbacks banged up. Has just been rough.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, quarterback is obviously something they need

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Speaker 1: to address if the Saints want to have any success. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I want to go back to the way that you played.

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Speaker 1: Like the NFL, it's changed, It's changed as you've been playing.

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Speaker 1: It's changed. Like what do you think is gonna happen

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Speaker 1: five years from ten? You if you were in charge,

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Speaker 1: what would you do it? If I was in charge,

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Speaker 1: I would find quarterbacks and ball carriers for getting knocked

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Speaker 1: out and getting hurt, because like I would always get

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Speaker 1: mad when they throw a ball across the middle of

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Speaker 1: my job is to not allow you to catch the ball.

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Speaker 1: But then I get fined. Well what about these rules

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Speaker 1: with the tackling? Like how are in real time? I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I I played high school football.

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Speaker 1: You play really good, but I don't understand, Like, how

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Speaker 1: are you supposed to do at a millisecond? It's a joke,

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Speaker 1: I mean, But but realistically, the NFL always responds to

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Speaker 1: his fan base, right, So when things happen, t O

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Speaker 1: got hurt way back in the day, and what they do.

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Speaker 1: They banned horse collar tackles, all right, the wrong the

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Speaker 1: star player gets hurt, they'll change rules for that. Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know, when things are coming out and the game

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Speaker 1: gets a little bit too violent, they will change the

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Speaker 1: game for that, right, just because the fans, whatever they say,

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Speaker 1: they'll respond to in the league. The NFL does that

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Speaker 1: better than any league or business out there. Spends the narrative,

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Speaker 1: changes it so people can feel connected to the game

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Speaker 1: and still watch it and feel good about it, um,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what it really means for the players. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but when you were when you were some of those

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Speaker 1: penalties you your reaction, You're like, you're looking at the officials,

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Speaker 1: like what did I think? At the replayers? But but

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Speaker 1: some of those things are necessary. Like and like you said,

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Speaker 1: it's changed a lot even while I was playing. I

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Speaker 1: came in two thousand nine, and you know, it was

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Speaker 1: still a little bit of old school where you're trying

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Speaker 1: to like tee off on guys. Uh. And I realized that,

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Speaker 1: like I was hurting myself a lot trying to hurt

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Speaker 1: other people, right, And then you see what Seattle was doing,

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Speaker 1: and they changed more to like a gator role type

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Speaker 1: of tackle, a rugby style tackle that gets your head

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Speaker 1: out of the way. And I changed to that, and

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Speaker 1: next you know, I didn't miss a game for eight

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Speaker 1: straight seasons just because I played the game different, more

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Speaker 1: cognizant about my own health and it's important. So I

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Speaker 1: think there's a little bit of balance. But I do

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Speaker 1: think some of some of the things that they do

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Speaker 1: don't make any sense. Uh, even you know when they

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Speaker 1: did the whole heads up football campaign, playing with your

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Speaker 1: head up, save your neck. Not that don't stop you

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Speaker 1: from getting but it makes us feel better about it.

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Speaker 1: But is there really away, Like we talk about this

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Speaker 1: on the radio show Idea, you can't totally make football.

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Speaker 1: There's always no it's not a safe What what are

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Speaker 1: we doing here? There's no safe way to play the game.

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Speaker 1: You will get hurt. It's a re rate. Every single

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Speaker 1: player who plays football will get hurt. You have to

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Speaker 1: and then so it's just about the severity, uh, and

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Speaker 1: the types of injuries that you have. We can deal

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Speaker 1: with muscles and lower extremities, but we talk about your

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Speaker 1: quality of life moving on from the game. That's where

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Speaker 1: you're looking at your brain, UM, your your organs, and

585
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Speaker 1: the way you take care of your body, what you

586
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 1: put into your body. Those things I think are very important.

587
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Speaker 1: And brock Purty found that out real fast. Do you

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Speaker 1: think they're gonna get to my homes often? I mean,

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Speaker 1: do you know that's the game plan right he's I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously we'll see what his health looks like with a

591
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Speaker 1: larger gap now two weeks off before having to play

592
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Speaker 1: another game with that ankle. But you got to imagine

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Speaker 1: that the Eagles entire game plan is going to be

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Speaker 1: get to Patrick Mahomes as fast as possible. But I

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Speaker 1: think you know, patter smart man. Patrick knows what he's doing.

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Speaker 1: He knows how to get the ball out of his hands,

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Speaker 1: he knows how to manipulate the defense. UH. And and

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Speaker 1: I think what the Eagles need to do mostly is

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Speaker 1: keep him from extending to play if they can keep

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Speaker 1: him from going off schedule, UH, and get pressure on

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Speaker 1: them that way. I think they'll be. I think they'll have,

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Speaker 1: you know, all the success that they want. What about

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Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts here? Because he's not in some of these

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Speaker 1: playoff games. He hasn't played particularly great. The numbers aren't wonderful,

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Speaker 1: The numbers a small sample size. He plays the game

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Speaker 1: the way it needs to be played. He's not worried

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Speaker 1: about the stats or the only stat that matters is

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Speaker 1: did they win? And how much? Did they win? By?

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Speaker 1: A lot? So it's like, if you're the quarterback and

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Speaker 1: y'all win by twenty four or more, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: You're punching back, Malcolm against the criticism of Jalen Hursts.

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Speaker 1: They've been bouncing around a little. They wanted to look

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Speaker 1: a certain way, but Jalen Hurts his game has never

614
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Speaker 1: looked like what people wanted to look. And that's what

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Speaker 1: that's really the whole rhetoric around him. And that's why

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed his ability to just stay poised and

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Speaker 1: focused on what matters right, and the winds are all

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Speaker 1: that matter right and and all this all he's done

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Speaker 1: every single day is show up, answer the questions, go

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Speaker 1: to work and perform and win. Speaking of what matters

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Speaker 1: you're an author. Yeah, congratulations, that's uh. You've got a

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Speaker 1: new books coming out this week? Is this all right?

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Speaker 1: We announced it this week, it comes out. It comes

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Speaker 1: out in November, but people can preorder it now any

625
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Speaker 1: major book retailer Amazon. It's called What Winners Won't Tell

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Speaker 1: Your Lessons from a legendary defender. It's just in the

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Speaker 1: can now you've already written it, or because I wanted

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Speaker 1: to write a book, I've been talking to people. It's

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Speaker 1: a pain of the blood to do this right, and

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Speaker 1: it is a lot of work. It's a labor of

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Speaker 1: love for sure, but man would have almost all pictures.

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Speaker 1: But as you know, the hardest part is there coming

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Speaker 1: up with what you want to say, like what is

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Speaker 1: your message and understanding that like, not everything's gonna fit

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Speaker 1: in the book, right, it's not my whole life. It's

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Speaker 1: not an expose, a or a tell all. But realistically,

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Speaker 1: I just finished a thirteen year career, done a lot

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Speaker 1: of different things in that span of time, have a

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Speaker 1: lot of different experiences, and it's like, how do I

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Speaker 1: contextualize and crystallize all of that and and be able

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Speaker 1: to disseminate that in ways that can help people. So

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a single father dealing with you know,

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Speaker 1: all of the pressures of being a dad. People can

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Speaker 1: relate to that, you know, whether it be athletes who

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Speaker 1: want to understand what it takes to be great, or

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Speaker 1: the business side of sports. People want to know those

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Speaker 1: things leadership. Um. You know, there's so many different things

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Speaker 1: that I've learned, and what I've done is taking all

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Speaker 1: of those lessons and and just really telling my story

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Speaker 1: kind of through this this uh weave of my family,

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Speaker 1: my career, uh in business. And you've got Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: he's doing the how did you get he's he's doing

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Speaker 1: the beginning the four That was a long shot. You know,

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Speaker 1: He's been by far my favorite person to compete against

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Speaker 1: my entire career. Just I've got so much respect for

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Speaker 1: who he is as a competitor, what he's done and

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Speaker 1: and it's not really until he just retired where you

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Speaker 1: really sit back and take inventory, but the fact that

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Speaker 1: I got to compete my entire career against probably the

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Speaker 1: greatest quarterback that will ever play this game. Um, And

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Speaker 1: so you know, when I reach out, it was definitely

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Speaker 1: a long shot. UM. I think the last time, I

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Speaker 1: think it helps that the last significant game we played

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Speaker 1: he won, right, That helped a little bit, But no,

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Speaker 1: I think I think we we have a mutual respect for,

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Speaker 1: you know, each other's game and how we approached the game,

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Speaker 1: how we approach our locker rooms, our teammates, and just

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Speaker 1: what we mean to the game of football. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: think he's gonna come back and play a game. I

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Speaker 1: think he's done for really three months from now, We're

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Speaker 1: not going to see him back, you know what. I

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Speaker 1: can't say for a hundred percent, but I think I

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Speaker 1: would if I was a betting man, I would say,

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Speaker 1: I think he's I think he's finally putting it down.

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Speaker 1: What about the TV stuff? You think he'll he'll do that?

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Speaker 1: Really he'll go forward with that? Yeah, now that stuff,

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Speaker 1: I don't know how long he'll like that. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: A lot of these guys were struggling with it, you know,

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Speaker 1: like even he saw Drew had a plan and he

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Speaker 1: stepped down from it. It's you know, it's one of

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Speaker 1: those things that I think as players were in it,

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Speaker 1: and so it's very easy to talk about the game,

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Speaker 1: but television is a little different. When you gotta start

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Speaker 1: criticizing guys and coming up with hot takes. And all

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Speaker 1: those things like Joe Montana couldn't do it way back.

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Speaker 1: You didn't want to criticize. I didn't want to criticize.

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Speaker 1: And that's that's part of you, like you know your

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Speaker 1: little us, right you got, I got to give a gap.

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Speaker 1: But I'm the same way. I don't really. I know

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Speaker 1: how hard it is. I know how hard these players work,

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Speaker 1: I know how competitive the talent is, and so it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to say how this person sucks. So

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Speaker 1: this person is not good. And it's because it's all relative, right,

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Speaker 1: it's relatively to the best in the world. To Davante Adams, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that guy looks sure for sure. All right, well we'll

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Speaker 1: get you out of here on that, Malcolm. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: And again the book if you want to get it

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Speaker 1: not available to November. You can prepreder preorder book. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like a great book. What winners won't tell your

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Speaker 1: lessons from a legendary defender and a beloved Philadelphia Eagle

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Speaker 1: and a bunch of Pro Bowls and all that. Speaking

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Speaker 1: of that, I know you're gonna pick the Eagles. You

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Speaker 1: gotta score them. I don't think it'll be close. I

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Speaker 1: think they'll win. I think they'll win. Actually, I think

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Speaker 1: they'll win by a touchdown. I don't know what school.

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Speaker 1: They'll win by a touchdown, but it won't be close

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Speaker 1: though score and a late score that will make it

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Speaker 1: within seven, but I think they'll be in control. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put my son's college money on that bag there

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Speaker 1: it is. Don't come looking for me Jenkins h and

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Speaker 1: that will do us for us anything. Radio row where

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Speaker 1: we are out of here. Now back to the reality

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Speaker 1: of the day to day grind. That's right, see you

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Speaker 1: back on Fox Sports Radio. You'll be back on talking

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Speaker 1: about the Super Bowl tonight on the overnight uh all

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Speaker 1: over the country there at two am to six am

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Speaker 1: Eastern Time coast. Yes, and I'll be back on Afternoon

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Speaker 1: Drive with Covino and Rich on Monday afternoon, and then

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Speaker 1: the podcast will jump back into effect next weekend, so

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Speaker 1: you can't wait for that. Absolutely, have a great rest

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Speaker 1: of your day, enjoy the Super Bowl, and we will

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Speaker 1: catch you next time. Later, Skater,