1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: Ron An Aian. I hate changing parts without testing. Now, 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: obviously it's a waste of money in time. But the 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: big factor is where do you change something and you 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: find out you put a secondary problem into the vehicle 5 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: simply by changing a part that well, I'll try this, 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Is the check engine light on? Is 7 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:34,760 Speaker 1: there anything pending? 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 2: All right? 9 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:38,479 Speaker 1: Pending is just as important as current. 10 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the 11 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,040 Speaker 3: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car 12 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 3: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 13 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 3: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: pick up the phone and call in. 15 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: The garage doors are open, but I am here to 16 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: take your calls at eight five five five ninety nine 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 1: hundred and now he. 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: Running. 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: Hey, welcome mar Naing of the Car Doctor at your service. 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: Let's uh, you know, I have stories and things to 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: talk to you about Buffy, you know. Let's go right 22 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: to the phone. Let's go to Bob in Delaware. Robert, 23 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: you're on with the Car Doctor, Sir, how can I help? 24 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 4: Hey? 25 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 5: Ron, how's it going good? 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: Good? 27 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:19,960 Speaker 1: What's going on? 28 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 5: I just wanted to I just want to share my 29 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 5: experience of the way I buy cars. Okay, sure, this 30 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 5: is the second car I bought. The first car I 31 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 5: bought their their sal their cars with salvage titles or rebuilt, 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 5: reconditioned titles. 33 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 34 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 5: And the first car I bought was a twenty ten 35 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:45,839 Speaker 5: four Fusion hybrid. It had I think twelve thousand miles 36 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:48,920 Speaker 5: at the time. The car, brand new, was built in 37 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 5: twenty ten, a thirty five thousand dollars car. Well, I 38 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 5: got this car for thirteen thousand, and it was the 39 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 5: accident hit. It was hitting the back so the endine, 40 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 5: and it was fine, and so I decided to, you know, 41 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 5: buy it. I still drive that car today. It's got 42 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 5: over three hundred thousand miles on it. I mean, the 43 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 5: car doesn't owed me a dime. I just recently bought 44 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 5: a car for my wife. It's ay twenty twenty AUTI 45 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 5: a six T fifty five. It had eleven thousand miles 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 5: on it. And the problem with that car it was totaled. 47 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 5: The previous owner ran through a puddle and the car 48 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 5: just comped out on them. So they brought it to 49 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 5: the dealer, to an AUDI dealer, and they diagnosed it 50 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: as engine damage whatever. And so the insurance company wrote 51 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 5: it off. And then this company that I do business with, 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 5: they buy them, they fixed them up, they get them. 53 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:47,639 Speaker 5: You know, they do what they got to do, whether 54 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 5: it's rebuilding the engine or they said they put a 55 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 5: new starter in, they changed the fluids. I flew down far, 56 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 5: I picked it up. I paid, like I said, I 57 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 5: had eleven thousand miles and I paid thirty four thousand 58 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 5: dollars in this car. This car is in a seventy 59 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 5: six thousand dollars car, brand new in twenty twenty. I mean, 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 5: it's got everything on it. It's unbelieve. I've never had 61 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 5: a call like this in my life. And I drove 62 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 5: the drove the car from Flora back to Delaware, and 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 5: it was the best trip I ever had. And I 64 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 5: just wanted to tell people. I mean, this is the 65 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: you know, cars are very expensive today. And and if 66 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 5: you're gonna if you're the type of person like I am, 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 5: where you buy a car and you I treat it 68 00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: like an investment. I keep it up and I don't trade. 69 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: I don't turn cars over every three years. I keep 70 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 5: it for you know, a long time. Right now, I'm 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: driving a two thousand and seven Hummer H three at 72 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: two thousand and five two hundred and five thousand miles 73 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 5: on it, and you look at it, you think it. 74 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 5: We just came out of the showroom. So I just 75 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 5: want to, you know, see what your opinion of cars 76 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,279 Speaker 5: with you know, salvage titles or rebuilt titles. 77 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: Don't see a lot of them. To be honest with you, Bob, 78 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not saying that's bad. We just don't 79 00:03:58,480 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: see a lot. But you know, we are where the 80 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 1: shops in you know, we're in northern New Jersey. It's 81 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: an affluent area part of the country. 82 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 5: Right. 83 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: We tell somebody they need we tell somebody they need 84 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: four wheel brakes and tires, and they get rid of 85 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: the car. You know, it's a very different it's a 86 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: very different world. 87 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 6: You know. 88 00:04:13,440 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: And I've seen salvage title purchasing people make out and 89 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 1: I've seen them get hurt. You know the danger, and 90 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: you've got to be very careful. And so so far 91 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: you're on a roll. Good luck to you. I hope 92 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: it works for you. 93 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,240 Speaker 5: Uh you know, but when you when you get well, 94 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:28,960 Speaker 5: I wouldn't I wouldn't buy a car, you know, if 95 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 5: it was hitting the front and the engine all that. 96 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,479 Speaker 5: One nice thing about this, you know these there's like 97 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 5: several companies. There's one in Florida, there's another company in Michigan, 98 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 5: and basically, you know, they tell you where where the 99 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 5: accident was or what the problem was, and you could 100 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 5: go on you look up get the VIN. You go 101 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 5: up there and go, uh look up the VIN and 102 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 5: you actually see pictures of the car before it was fixed, 103 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 5: you know, uh, you know, showing where the accent was. 104 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 5: So obviously some you know, you see a picture with 105 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 5: a car the whole front end is smashed, and you 106 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 5: stay away from that, right, But if it's you know, 107 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 5: hitting either side or the back, you know, there's a 108 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,919 Speaker 5: good chance that you know, that'll who's done right. You know, 109 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:09,679 Speaker 5: you you'll get a good deal. And then you're basically 110 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: talking you're paying probably two thirds of the of the 111 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 5: price of it what it should what it should go 112 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 5: for with a clear title. 113 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 1: Right, so you save yourself and you can, you can 114 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: until you get to that one. Yeah, so you know 115 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: it's it's I get it. It's it's like tiptoeing through 116 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 1: a minefield, though you just gotta be careful. But I 117 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: understand what you're doing. I understand why, and more power 118 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: to you. You know, not everybody, not everybody wants to 119 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: put up with that. Not a lot of people. You 120 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. 121 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:40,560 Speaker 5: It's it's it's but. 122 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing it. What's the website that you 123 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 1: go to just for the heck of it. Let's throw 124 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 1: it out there. 125 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 5: This company I brought the audi from is called Guarante, 126 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 5: the Guaranteed Best Choice. They're out of Hollywood, Florida. Uh, 127 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 5: you know now in my Miami and Broward and uh great, 128 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 5: great people. The maya who's the office manager. I mean, 129 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 5: you couldn't get better service than anybody. I mean, she 130 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 5: was fantastic. I drove down there. Uh I saw the car. 131 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 5: I didn't I didn't. I didn't wire the money prior. 132 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 5: I figured I'm gonna come down and I I saw 133 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,239 Speaker 5: the car. I drove the car, and then I wired 134 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 5: the money the next day. I had to wait an 135 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:22,160 Speaker 5: extra day for the wire clear and then I picked 136 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 5: it up and uh the car was immaculate. 137 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,359 Speaker 1: Now, what happens, what happens in the event of you know, 138 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 1: if there's manufacturer warranty still on that car is it 139 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: because it says salvage is that warranty? 140 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 5: There's no, there's no warranty on it from the manufacturer. 141 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 5: After a car gets totaled. Uh, in salvage that knows 142 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 5: the warranty. Every car, every car that they sell that 143 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 5: they repair, and they predominantly work believe it or not, 144 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 5: they predominantly work on they call flood title flood salvages 145 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 5: where I guess you know, when I heard that, I 146 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 5: right away I thought of the cabin being filled with 147 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 5: water and uh, but then I found out No, most 148 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,200 Speaker 5: of these cars that have flood damage to a flood salvage, 149 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 5: it's the car goes through a puddle and just conks out. 150 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 5: Especially with these new cars. The insurance doesn't want to 151 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 5: the insurance company only bother with it. They just write 152 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 5: it off and they pick up all their cars. They 153 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 5: got about right now on their website they must have 154 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 5: about eighty cars. About twelve of them are Tesla's, all 155 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 5: high end cars, a lot of high end Mercedes BMW's, 156 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 5: and they all salvage with a flood with a flood 157 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 5: to flood salvage. They every car that they sell, they 158 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 5: buy a three months, three thousand mile huarantine warranty on it. 159 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 1: Now you realize, of course, when you have a salvage 160 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 1: titled car that stays with the car for the life 161 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: of the car, it will affect final resale you know, 162 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: few years from now if you go to excel it. 163 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 1: So you really have to keep that car a long time. 164 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: You've got to keep. 165 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, But for somebody like myself who keeps the car 166 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 5: and you know, it takes care of it and you 167 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 5: right until it uh you know, it drops and that's 168 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: that's yeah. But definitely, definitely the car is worth you 169 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 5: pay for it. And uh so, but like I said 170 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 5: that there're the guarantee. Was it the guaranteed best choice 171 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 5: out of Hollywood, Florida. Then there's another company in Michigan 172 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 5: they got you know, also they do the same thing, 173 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 5: but they they handle a lot of cars in act 174 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 5: with accidents, you know, front end, back end, whatever. 175 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: Well, you know, I said, with the shortage of cars bomb, 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 1: you may just be onto something because there's not a 177 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of new cars in the marketplace right now. It 178 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: seems it seems like the shortage is continuing for whatever reasons. 179 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 5: That's my job I worked for. I used to work 180 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 5: for Autovin. I was in a car inspector, so when 181 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 5: you least he's a car after three years, I would 182 00:08:51,200 --> 00:08:53,080 Speaker 5: come out and inspect the car and see what you know, 183 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 5: how to wear and tear on the car and uh 184 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 5: and then if there was excess wear and tear, you know, 185 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 5: the least he would have to pay whatever it is. 186 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: And that's what I did. And then when when COVID 187 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 5: hit and we had that problem, I basically lost my 188 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 5: job from that. And uh but uh but yeah I would. 189 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 5: I would really for those out there that are looking 190 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 5: for a good deal on a car. Uh, you know, 191 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 5: you do your due diligence, you look at the car. 192 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 4: You know. 193 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 5: The write ups for these people, for the for the 194 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 5: company was unbelievable. I mean the testimonials were unbelievable. That 195 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 5: was another thing that sold me. 196 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: Bob, give us, Bob, give us a Bob, give us 197 00:09:27,920 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: a couple of tips. If somebody's going out there to 198 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: look at a salvage title car, it's just even a 199 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: used car, what are some of the favorite things you 200 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: look for to tell you know, use and abuse. 201 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 5: Well, you if you got a paint cage, you want 202 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 5: to make sure that there's no uh, none of none 203 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 5: of the none of the panels were damaged. You know, 204 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 5: is it an accident? Uh? You want to check the 205 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 5: U I guess the uh you know, if it says 206 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 5: it's got twenty thousand miles, you want to make sure. 207 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 5: And you look at the break, the brake, pedal, the 208 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 5: wear on that you could you know, you look at 209 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: I usually run my you don't have a paint age. 210 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 5: You run your finger along the edge of the hood 211 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 5: and if it's not smooth, and if it's rough, and 212 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,959 Speaker 5: you know it was painted, these little little tricks. I'm 213 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 5: sure you're probably aware of that. Yeah, yeah, and uh, 214 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 5: you basically want you know, you want good mileage. You 215 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 5: obviously you get to look at the Kelly Blue Book 216 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 5: to see where the price should be for that car. 217 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: And uh, but you know, I'm right now, I'm I'm 218 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 5: in I'm in the market for my daughter. She wants 219 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 5: she wants this new Bronco uh. And believe or not, 220 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: I've come across a few of them, uh that have 221 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:40,600 Speaker 5: salvage titles, but they're the Bronco sport. He wants the 222 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 5: big ones, the regular full size one. And I haven't 223 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:45,319 Speaker 5: seen many of those, but there were quite a few 224 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 5: Bronco Sports that were available with a salvage title rebuilt title, 225 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,559 Speaker 5: and uh so, but yeah, that's the only way I 226 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 5: would go. I see when when my my Ford Fusion goes, 227 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 5: then I'll be in the market for another car. And 228 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 5: that's the way I'm gonna go. 229 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 1: Well, Bob, I appreciate your time. I appreciate the information. 230 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's working out for you. I'm glad you 231 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: landed on your feet after COVID, so very good. All right, Kitty, 232 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. You'd be well. I'm running any in 233 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:14,600 Speaker 1: the car doctor, Bye bye, I'm run an ad in 234 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: the guard doctor. He's very excited, right. I love that. 235 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: I love the passion he's got there finding salvage cars. 236 00:11:19,280 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: But that's good. Listen, hey, that's what this show, and 237 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: that's what this country is all about. Find your passion 238 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: and do it. Make it work for you. I'm running 239 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 1: any in the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. 240 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:27,439 Speaker 1: Don't go away. 241 00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 5: I'm going. 242 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 7: Vehicle not taking you where you want to go. Well, 243 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 7: call ron He's the expert at making your vehicle take 244 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 7: you where you need it. Eight five five five six 245 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 7: zero nine nine zero zero and now back to Rod. 246 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,559 Speaker 1: Hey, let's wander over to Iowa and talk to James. James. 247 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, Ron, and Inie and 248 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 1: at your service, how can I help? 249 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? 250 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: Hi, Ron, Yes, sir. What I've got is I took 251 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:59,760 Speaker 2: a motor out of a seventy seven Ford truck, okay, 252 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:04,440 Speaker 2: and I put it in this little model T and 253 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: I've got all the wiring completely done and it's everything works, 254 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: except there wasn't an excited wire on the plug that 255 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 2: goes into the regulator. I noticed that later when I 256 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: after I had it all wired, and I'm like, okay, 257 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: So I went out to Savage Yard and got a 258 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 2: plug so I can get that little connector and put 259 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 2: it into the connector that's on the vehicle now and 260 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 2: plug it into the regulator. And now I have a 261 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 2: wire that I can put the power for the excier 262 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: and it works, and it makes the alternator work. But 263 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: does that wire it hooked up to it like something 264 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: that's when you start, you got power and then it 265 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: turns off and the ignition goes from start to run? 266 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: Where did you get it? Where did you? Where did 267 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: you get the wiring? Horns from James? 268 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 2: Well, I've made it myself, but I've done several of them. 269 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: I used like a painless wiring, okay, but I bought 270 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:07,400 Speaker 2: the wiring hardness for the electrical system. You know, the 271 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: charging system came with the engine and transmission and all that, right. 272 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: So is it is it factory wiring? You know, that's 273 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: my question. 274 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: It's it's a factory wiring. 275 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: So if it's got factory wiring, what happened to the 276 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: wiring or are you missing a ground? Because that voltage 277 00:13:24,360 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: regulator would have to be grounded and then have to 278 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: be good chassis ground between it the engine and the 279 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: battery in order for all this to work. Okay, So 280 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: if you've got the truck harness, I'm trying to figure 281 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,559 Speaker 1: out what you're missing or what you're normally. 282 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: The wire that goes to the excider that plugs into the. 283 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 1: Which terminal is that on the regulator the f terminal? 284 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: It's the bottom one, it's the E one okay. So 285 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: if I believed, and then there's the field and the 286 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 2: one that goes to the battery. 287 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: Okay, was that there on the was that was that 288 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,679 Speaker 1: there on the factory harness? 289 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: No? I don't think, so it must not have been. 290 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 2: But my other car has one on there that's got 291 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,800 Speaker 2: that wire going to it. 292 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 1: Okay, So and if I touched, if you touch it 293 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: to the eye terminal of the alternator, you get it 294 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: to you get it to charge. 295 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 2: Yep, funds right up and does its thing, and then 296 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 2: it stays charging as long as you run the car, 297 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 2: and then you turn it off. It doesn't again of course, right, 298 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: but then as I disconnect the power, because I don't 299 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 2: know if it's supposed to be full time power or. 300 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: Just well, and that's what you see, that's what you know. 301 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: You know, I'm almost a little lost because we're playing 302 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: around with a wiring harness without a diagram, you know, 303 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: I'd have to break down. I don't remember seeing them 304 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: where the eye terminal had to be hooked up. It 305 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: was if And that's what I don't understand. If you've 306 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: got the factory. 307 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 2: Harness, well, if you've got the diagram here. 308 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: Well, if you've got the factory harness out of the truck, 309 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: all right, and it worked in the truck, why do 310 00:15:02,480 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: you have to add a wire? Now? What do you comment? Right? 311 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: That's and that's my question. What are you compensating for? 312 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 2: So I have a diagram here, okay, and it does 313 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 2: show on the regulator there's an A and then I 314 00:15:18,840 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: and then F and then F. 315 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 1: Where's where does the eye go? I. 316 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 2: Which is the excier says it goes to a white 317 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: wire that goes to the fuse box. 318 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: So that means it's power. So that means the back 319 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: of the alternator that I terminal must be twelve vaults. 320 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 6: Okay, check it. 321 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 2: So it probably just runs all the time, that power does. 322 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: Well even that you know, well, if it's going into 323 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: the fuse box, is it is it keon engine only? 324 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: My imagination is in my imagination, I'm going to say 325 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: that that's probably a key on hot only or not. 326 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: It's not hot all the time. Why would they have 327 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,400 Speaker 1: to have the regulator excited all the time. That wouldn't 328 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 1: make sense that that would create a drain. But I 329 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: would be well, do this do this? Start start it up, 330 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 1: start it up with it disconnected? Do you have twelve 331 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:15,720 Speaker 1: vaults at that eye terminal of the alternator? All right? 332 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: If you If you do, then you're just replicating the 333 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: fuse box. You've got your answer. It's in front of you. 334 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: That IE terminal is an unfused twelve vault source. Right, yeah, okay, 335 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: So then just. 336 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 2: Finally, I isn't on the alator you just said it 337 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 2: was where's the where's where's the regulator? 338 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 1: Okay? And then you're running it to where the battery 339 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: in the field. Right, So you're running that eye wire 340 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: from the regulator to. 341 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 2: Where to power. 342 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: Oh, so you're duplicating the fuse box. Right, so you're 343 00:16:54,880 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 1: duplicating the fuse box. So run it through a fuse 344 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: run it through the fuse box, run it through a 345 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: switched source on the fuse box. You can't go wrong. 346 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 2: It still probably has power at all times when the 347 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 2: ignition switch is turned on. 348 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:12,440 Speaker 1: Correct, it's a key on my question. Right, it's switched power. Correct. 349 00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 2: I know sometimes you'd have when you turn the ignition 350 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: to start, it would give you an extra boost to power, 351 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 2: just for more spark when it starts. 352 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: Well, you're talking about a ballast set up ignition system. 353 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: Which more likely it's just going to be well, this 354 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,000 Speaker 2: has enough to switch power and you're good to go. 355 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: Well, but James, ballast ignition has nothing to do with 356 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: the charging system. 357 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 2: Well, I agree with that, okay, But if I was 358 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: going to like as an example of one right, But. 359 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like what you want, You've got the 360 00:17:46,119 --> 00:17:48,119 Speaker 1: answer in front of you there. It sounds like you 361 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: want to go to the fuse box and wire it 362 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: up to a fuse that has switched power so when 363 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: the key is on. 364 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I've got switched power wires that I can cut 365 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:57,160 Speaker 2: it up to prob. 366 00:17:57,480 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, then do that. 367 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 3: As far as the guy tell you what hang on, 368 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: hang on. 369 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: One second, James, let me pull over, take a pause. 370 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Welcome back to you after this break. All right, don't 371 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: go anywhere. I'm not an ady and the car doctor. 372 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: We'll be right back. 373 00:18:29,720 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 7: Ron's in his own the Auto Zone studio and he'll 374 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 7: be back right after this. Welcome back to the Auto 375 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 7: Zone Studio. Here's Ron. 376 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,200 Speaker 1: Hey, let's finish up with Jamie and Iowa. Jamie real quick. 377 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: You had a comment. 378 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 4: Yeah. 379 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 8: As far as that guy with the build salvage title cars, 380 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 8: I worked a body shop for like forty years and 381 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 8: we did that exclusively for about fifteen years. And the 382 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 8: biggest thing with the Savage title car is you got 383 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 8: to know who's rebuilding it for you. 384 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 6: Right, you were doing them. 385 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 8: All the time, and and you just make sure that 386 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 8: you put them back just like they were, and nobody'd 387 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 8: have any problems with them because they're just like they were. 388 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 8: We'd cut them in half and whatever we needed to do, 389 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 8: but we didn't scrim. 390 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 1: Right, right, So it's it's only as good as the 391 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: guy putting it together as the bottom line. 392 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 5: Yeah right. 393 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 8: We're still in my shop business, but we don't do 394 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 8: as many of those rebuilders. But people can have confidence 395 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 8: that they know who's doing it. 396 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: You know, I'm thinking about you're going back to your 397 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,399 Speaker 1: regulator comment question. I'm thinking I'm thinking about that that 398 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: was the red green wire? 399 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 6: Correct, No, it's a white wire. 400 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: Was it white? 401 00:19:58,480 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 6: Right? 402 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,640 Speaker 1: Was it? Was it red green? In the factory harness 403 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: dn L. 404 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 8: I think it might have been, Yeah, it was. 405 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 6: It was. 406 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: Take a look because I think it was red green 407 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: because red denoted power, and I believe that was the 408 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: same wire that ended up going to the ignition coil. 409 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: The positive the hot side of the coil. There was 410 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: a ballast resistor in there for start crank mode, depending 411 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: upon what generation electronic ignition that had. But if you 412 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: follow that wiring straight back, that's going to go to 413 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: fused ignition, either off the switch or through the fuse box. 414 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: But either way that's going to be fused. Key on 415 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 1: power only. It's not hot all the time, and okay, 416 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,640 Speaker 1: I think you'll be fine, all right. I just didn't 417 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: understand what we were doing in the beginning because we 418 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: had white wires and red wires and green wires. 419 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,239 Speaker 8: And yeah, the wiring kits they used evid wires. But 420 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 8: I do remember when I took the old plug off, 421 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 8: the one I got at the junk yard the other day, 422 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 8: that it was a red white wire that I put 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 8: into my plug that goes into my right. 424 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: Now right now. You know, I just want to mention too, 425 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: if you want to eliminate all of this company. Yeah, 426 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard of power Master. 427 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 2: No I haven't. 428 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: Power Master starters and alternators. They make some really great stuff. 429 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: They'll they'll make a they'll make it. They make a 430 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,640 Speaker 1: one wire alternator for that vehicle. You can eliminate half 431 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: your wiring. 432 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, it's self exciting. 433 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 5: So it should be good to go. 434 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: All right, Kittle, send us pictures, Send us pictures when 435 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 1: you're done. We'd love to see it. You're very welcome, 436 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: Take good care. Let's get let's get on over and 437 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: go to Let's go to Peter and Maine. Peter, welcome 438 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:33,920 Speaker 1: to the car doctor. How can I help? 439 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 6: Ah? 440 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 2: Right? 441 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: Hi you Ellen, good sir? What's going on? 442 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 6: Got a two thousand and five Dodge strated? 443 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:41,520 Speaker 1: Okay? 444 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 6: Having charging problems? 445 00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:44,480 Speaker 1: All right? 446 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 6: I replaced the Alton. It's been replaced three times, and 447 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,119 Speaker 6: the third time it was replaced at Work's fine for 448 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 6: a while, and then the battery light on the dash 449 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 6: panel came on, and then after that it completely drained 450 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 6: the battery and we had to get a jump to 451 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 6: get it going to get it home. And then after 452 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 6: that I tried to the battery up and let it 453 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 6: run for a while, and then the battery light shut 454 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 6: off on the dash panel, and then it probably like 455 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 6: ten or fifteen minutes later that the battery light came 456 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 6: back on the dash panel, and then the cat started 457 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 6: idling erratically and then it died in The battery is 458 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 6: completely bad again, Okay, So I don't know, let me, 459 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 6: I don't know if there's something well. 460 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: Let me let's let's let's back up a second. When 461 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 1: you say you've put a couple of alternators in, it 462 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: is that a couple of alternators spread out over time 463 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: or is that the light No, you originally had a 464 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: charging problem. You tried a couple of alternators until you 465 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: got a good one. 466 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 6: I went to a roll even bat one there and 467 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 6: and then they gave me another one after that, and 468 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 6: then I had a problem after that, and then I 469 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 6: went to AutoZone and then after that and still get 470 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 6: a problem with it. Okay, So I don't know if 471 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 6: there's another wire so many. 472 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, So so. 473 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: You're getting the ground or something. 474 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, Peter, You're you're just swapping alternators. 475 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 1: Has anybody done any diagnosis? Has anybody looked at this 476 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: with a scan tool or anything. 477 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 6: I don't have a scan tool, So you just asked 478 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 6: other people asked other people, and they didn't say anything 479 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:43,360 Speaker 6: about it. 480 00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: So well, you're just so you're just swapping ports until 481 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: you get until it fixes itself. I'm not being rude. 482 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: I'm just you know, just right, Wow. 483 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 6: Should I if it was if there was a Dinosa 484 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 6: with a scan tool, wouldn't have a service engine too 485 00:23:58,760 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 6: and light come on or something? 486 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Not unless, not, unless the charging fault effected emissions. The 487 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 1: only reason, the only reason, the only reason to check 488 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: engine light comes on in any vehicles. Emissions related. If 489 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: there's an electrical problem, you know, it won't report it 490 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: per se if the charging system, although the charge system 491 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 1: should have authority over a mission controls. So yes, in 492 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: that sense, I would agree with you. But wouldn't you 493 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: want to see what the computers are seeing? You know, 494 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 1: if your blood pross go ahead? 495 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 6: I thought the service angelight would come on to guy 496 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 6: and that there was a problem somewhere. Is because all 497 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 6: it is is system I really like coming on. 498 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 1: Well, okay, so think of it like this. We could 499 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: take a scan tool and you could look at and 500 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:51,959 Speaker 1: see actual voltage and requested voltage. Wouldn't you like to 501 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: know what the computer is capable of controlling? 502 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 6: Yeah? I didn't know you could do that. 503 00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,920 Speaker 1: Sure, there's a lot you can do with a scan tool. 504 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking. Here's an example where you always 505 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: hear me talk about the difference between and I'll do 506 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: this gently OBD two and vehicle specific year, make model. 507 00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 1: Vehicle specific year make model will give us a whole 508 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: lot more information in this case because the computer is 509 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: controlling the charging system. Well, the computer's controlling the charging 510 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: system here, all right, So for example, you could have 511 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 1: a bad computer. I'm not saying you do. But you 512 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 1: could have a bad computer and it may not be 513 00:25:31,680 --> 00:25:34,840 Speaker 1: able to properly see and identify low voltage enough to 514 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: turn on a light. So there are some there are 515 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 1: some tests that you could do with a scan tool 516 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,000 Speaker 1: to see, Hey, do I have an alternator problem? Do 517 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: I have a computer problem? Do I have a wiring issue? 518 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 1: The fact that you went through Now you said you 519 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: put two alternators on from O'Reilly's, and then the one 520 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: from AutoZone worked but for a short time. 521 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 6: He yes, well they did the same. They all did 522 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 6: the same, I'll and we replaced to put a brain 523 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 6: of battery in the two. Okay, so we thought maybe 524 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 6: it was the battery, maybe I had a bad tower 525 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:09,959 Speaker 6: or something. 526 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 1: So when you, you know, check the alternator, if you 527 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: had a wiring diagram, did you measure to verify that 528 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: you had correct power and ground at the alternator through 529 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,399 Speaker 1: the harness plugs like you're supposed to? 530 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had the adequate power to it. 531 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: What was the voltage at the plug on the alternator? 532 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: Do you remember? 533 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 6: I can't recall? 534 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I think you got to do some further testing here, Kitto. 535 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: I find I find it hard to believe that you 536 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: had three bad alternators. I think more has got to 537 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: be done. I. 538 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 6: Well, no, it's doing this well, because I asked them, 539 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 6: I said, because at the patch place, I asked them, 540 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 6: I said, well, can there be something else out of 541 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 6: than the problem that it's not sending enough, not far 542 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 6: chigging to the battery to keep it going. And nobody 543 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 6: would give me an adequate answers. 544 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: Because nobody knows. They're parts of people. They're not they're 545 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: not technicians, they're not mechanics. 546 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 6: Because I said that it can't be it can't be 547 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 6: three alternators. 548 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: That right, No, right, And that's my point, all right, 549 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: And that's my point, kiddo, all right, they're not diagnosticians. 550 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: If I were to approach this, I verify power on 551 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,160 Speaker 1: the heavy cable going to the alternator. I verify power. 552 00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: I verify signal all right, coming into the back of 553 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 1: the alternator, because that's all computer controlled, and I'd be 554 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: looking at this on a scan tool to see if 555 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: it's requesting. Do you know you can take a scan 556 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: tool and request that alternator to be full fielded and 557 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 1: go for maximum output and then check for signal at 558 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 1: the other end. With proper equipment, this is. I got 559 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: to tell you this is not the way to diagnose this. 560 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:52,760 Speaker 1: I think you got to take it to your local garage. 561 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: I don't think you've got the equipment to properly test this. 562 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: I just don't, all right. 563 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 6: I don't have the test. Yeah, I thought you needed 564 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 6: at that. Now. 565 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: The fact that the fact that the well here hang 566 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: on a second, The fact that the light went out 567 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,560 Speaker 1: after you charge the battery, The fact that the light 568 00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 1: went out after you charge the battery is just indicative 569 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: of the battery had a high enough rate of charge. 570 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: It was probably overcharged and over twelve and a half vaults. 571 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 1: And it stayed like that until you drove the car 572 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes and pulled the voltage back down low again. 573 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden the light came on, which 574 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: shows me the vehicle is capable of telling you, hey, 575 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: there's a problem. All right, But I just find it 576 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: hard to believe you've got three bad alternators. You could 577 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: Anything's possible. I've seen stranger things in my career. But 578 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 1: until somebody starts giving me some real voltage numbers and 579 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: specs and tell me what I see on a scan tool, 580 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: I can't take you down that path. You need to 581 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: do some testing. You just can't keep swapping parts. 582 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I know that you can't rely on a 583 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 6: new alternator either. 584 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Well you can. You can't rely on the new alternator, 585 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: but you gotta do some testing. And that's my point. 586 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: Take it somewhere, spend an hour. Let somebody spend an 587 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: hour diagnostic time. They can give you a whole lot 588 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,920 Speaker 1: of information here and diagnose this and they'll be able 589 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: to do it a lot quicker and less painless than 590 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: going through replacing the alternator three times. Good luck. Let 591 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: me know what happens. I'm running ady in the Card Doctor. 592 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this contracts. 593 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:30,480 Speaker 5: Look aback, I'm. 594 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: Running in the Card Doctor at eighty five five five 595 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: six zero nine nine zero zero. Let's go over to 596 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: Joe and Michigan. Joe, what's going on? How can I help? 597 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 5: Hey? Ron? 598 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 4: How are you doing? 599 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 5: Good? 600 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: To talk to you you too, sir? What's going on? 601 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 4: I love your show? Hey? 602 00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? 603 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 5: Two thousand Saturn I on my. 604 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:54,959 Speaker 4: Temperature gage is not working okay, sometimes like earlier, earlier 605 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: today it was working fine and then all of a 606 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 4: sudden it just goes dead. Okay, So now I've been 607 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 4: been to a couple parts stores, and they're telling me 608 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 4: it could possibly be a temperature control valve. 609 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:15,360 Speaker 5: They hooked it up, you know, try to see if 610 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:16,560 Speaker 5: there was a code. 611 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 4: There's no code. So I'm like, okay, I figured i'd 612 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 4: call you. 613 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,120 Speaker 5: You know, well maybe you had to say. 614 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: All right, So, first of all, there's an engine temperature 615 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: switch located on the engine. That switch provides signal is 616 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: a zero to five volt sensor that provides signal to 617 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: the powertrain control module, the engine computer. The engine computer 618 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: does a bunch of things with that. Okay. The actual 619 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 1: temperature gauge in the cluster on the dash is controlled 620 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: by the body module, all right. The PCM, the powertrain 621 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: control module, sends signal over a serial data line to 622 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: the BCM, which then sends signal up through a serial 623 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: data link to the instrument cluster. So there is no 624 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: connection between the cluster and the powertrain control module where 625 00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: the sensor. Everything's done over data lines. So my questions 626 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 1: would be, first of all, with a scan tool starting 627 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: it up from a cold start, all right, the vehicle's 628 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,479 Speaker 1: been sitting. Definition of a cold start is vehicle's been 629 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 1: sitting longer than or up to eight hours, start it up. 630 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, turn the key on, Do not start the car, keon, 631 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: engine off. Look at cooling temperature, look at intake air temperature. 632 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: They should be within a couple of degrees of each other. 633 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: All right, okay, start the car up. Does the PCM? 634 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 1: Does the powertrain control module report correct engine temperature? And 635 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: it probably does? All right? So for example, you're driving 636 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: along and you're gonna see the engine temperature says oh, 637 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, pick a number one hundred and ninety 638 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: five degrees. But now, but your temperature gauge is cold, 639 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: it shows cold. Then I'd go into the BCM. I'd 640 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: go into the body computer. Do I have a cool 641 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,080 Speaker 1: and temp reading there? And let's say that says one 642 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:12,400 Speaker 1: hundred and ninety five degrees. I know that the BCM 643 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: can interpret the data. I know that the PCM is 644 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: sending the data that tells me My problem is somewhere 645 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: between the BCM, either connector or wiring, or at the 646 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: cluster itself. Do I have a bad gauge? 647 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:26,320 Speaker 5: Now? 648 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 1: The key will be where is engine temperature when this 649 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: vehicle is allegedly warmed up and hot? So I would 650 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 1: take my scan tool for a ride in eight to 651 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 1: ten minutes. In I better see somewhere between one hundred 652 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 1: and sixty and two hundred degrees of temperature, more likely 653 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: closer to the one ninety two hundred mark. Anything under 654 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: anything under one hundred and seventy nine degrees, that vehicle 655 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: should set a P zero one twenty eight cool and 656 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: temp rationality fault, which could be an indicator of a 657 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: bad thermostat. But that's not what you're describing to me. 658 00:32:56,680 --> 00:33:00,479 Speaker 1: You're making it sound more like this is a problem 659 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: within the rationale or the cluster itself. So that's a 660 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 1: good starting point. Don't go looking for a fault code. 661 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,240 Speaker 1: You may not get it. You've got to apply some 662 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 1: basic logic here and understand how the circuit works. Good 663 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: luck to you, Joe. Let me know what happens. I'm 664 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: r on an eighty in the car Doctor. I'll be 665 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: back right after this. She's real find my four nice, 666 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: she's real, find my for nine my fault. Welcome back, 667 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 1: we're running the car Doctor. We had a some closing 668 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,160 Speaker 1: thoughts for you this week. The part shortage is getting worse, 669 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,479 Speaker 1: it really is. It's it's continuing. You know, the UAW 670 00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: strike is going to their shutting down parts plants. And 671 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying who's right and who's wrong here. I'm 672 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: just reporting what I'm experiencing in my side of it, 673 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,400 Speaker 1: what I see at this point in the counter and 674 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 1: it's gonna get It's gonna get worse before it gets better, 675 00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 1: I think. And we're reaching into different places to find parts, 676 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: and it's necessary to kind of turn over every rock 677 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:02,520 Speaker 1: you can. 678 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:03,479 Speaker 6: Mike. 679 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: Chrysler guys tell me that they expect to be laid 680 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: off at the local Chrysler dealer in the next couple 681 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: of weeks because they're just they can't get parts out 682 00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: of the Chrysler depot in Japan because and they're at 683 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:15,360 Speaker 1: this point, all the dealers are buying from within and 684 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,400 Speaker 1: amongst themselves, So there's a parts shortage coming and it's 685 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: going to hit harder and harder each and every week. 686 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,200 Speaker 1: We scoured everywhere we can. We had a recent experience 687 00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,880 Speaker 1: with a Ford Explorer. We needed a couple of oxygen 688 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: sensors for it. Couldn't find it anywhere. We're able to 689 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: go onto the ngksparkplug dot com website, went into their 690 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 1: parts finder. We're able to look it up that way, 691 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: and they actually found it up. They've actually hited a 692 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,080 Speaker 1: new feature which or I'm just aware of it now, 693 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,240 Speaker 1: but Mgksparkplugs dot com has a parts finder for outdoor 694 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: and power equipment. I was up there playing around with it, 695 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:47,800 Speaker 1: finding parts for chainsaws and lawnmowers and outboard marine and 696 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 1: all sorts of things. So just another avenue for parts. 697 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: N GK NTK. They've got it Till the next time. 698 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 1: I'm ronning Ay and the car Doctor reminding you good 699 00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you, she sh