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Speaker 1: I'm pretty excited for today's episode. This episode was really

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Speaker 1: life changing. Actually it really kind of was. And it

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Speaker 1: also just went a completely different direction than I thought

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Speaker 1: let's listen to A. J. Beckels and how he got here?

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Speaker 1: He a J. We're happy to have you here, thank you,

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Speaker 1: say that we're here with A J. Beckles, Hi, how

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Speaker 1: are you? And we're talking about his his So, unless

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Speaker 1: the journey that the actor takes to get here is

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Speaker 1: to be the welcome wagon, welcome to town. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: l A. I moved to Austin a year ago. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: though they're very different. The beaches in Orange County are

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Speaker 1: took a while. What was the thing that broke you

425
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Speaker 1: into the into the mainstream industry. Two things actually, and

426
00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,280
Speaker 1: I'll get to those um. But so what happened was

427
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 1: Massachusetts and not being in a situation where I could move.

428
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:14,600
Speaker 1: I was in college that at this time. Now it's

429
00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 1: been about like, let's say, if I found voice over

430
00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,320
Speaker 1: when I was seventeen, I think, and college. I didn't

431
00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 1: drop out until my junior year. I think it was

432
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 1: twenty time, so a couple of years. But I was

433
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: doing it kind of as a hobby. I wasn't doing

434
00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,000
Speaker 1: it all the time. And I had first started college

435
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 1: doing communications for the first two years because I was like,

436
00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:34,280
Speaker 1: what's the degree that everybody tries to get when they

437
00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,600
Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing? And communication? And there's it's

438
00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: community because you can branch into other things. It's not

439
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: a worthless degree. I feel like communications is like in

440
00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 1: every degree, you know what I mean, Like if you

441
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: want the experience of going to college and your parents

442
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 1: really want you to go to so it's like, you know,

443
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,679
Speaker 1: some people people are quick to either condemn college and

444
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:58,560
Speaker 1: be like, don't go, you know, just join a country

445
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 1: club or something, which by the way, is super privileged

446
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 1: a point of view, But like like but people have

447
00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,720
Speaker 1: seen they've seen it on TikTok where people are like,

448
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,480
Speaker 1: you should just throw that money into a country club

449
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: thing and you'll meet the right people. And it's like

450
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 1: there's no or that's a real thing. People are saying online.

451
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: Have you seen this is ironic? Like like, do you

452
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: want to explain it to the man here? Well, it's

453
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,040
Speaker 1: pretty much just like, hey, like, instead of going to college,

454
00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: take that same money that you had spent on college

455
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 1: and get it put into a country club, but get

456
00:22:27,440 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: way more out of it. You make connections, network and

457
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,080
Speaker 1: with people who are already because with college, when you

458
00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:34,119
Speaker 1: go all those people are going to go a million

459
00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 1: different roads and then eventually in ten to fifteen years

460
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 1: be at the level of four year colleges are are

461
00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 1: not what they used to be, nor they necessary anymore.

462
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 1: In a two year college where you can actually focus

463
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 1: what you want to do, is probably better. But I

464
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: think that was that what yours was a two year

465
00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: college Okay, okay, more important than just putting your money

466
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,159
Speaker 1: in a country club. It's a I think it's a

467
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,640
Speaker 1: out of the box, not really thought out concepts. That's

468
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:01,520
Speaker 1: not college. But to take the same amount of money

469
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,159
Speaker 1: and go to a country club. It sounds like it's

470
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: I think, I don't know. What do you make of it? Well,

471
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I think that's dumb. I I don't know. I think

472
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: college can be necessary, and it can. It depends on you.

473
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: It depends on what you want to do. If you

474
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Speaker 1: want to be a voice actor or an actor, and

475
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Speaker 1: you have the money and you were like, I'm going

476
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: to go to unless it's like a really crazy good

477
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,439
Speaker 1: theater school. Like I feel like you just take workshops

478
00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,720
Speaker 1: or you know, taking intensive with it you really trust.

479
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 1: I feel like there's other avenues. Yeah, there's ways to

480
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:36,399
Speaker 1: study your craft, but country going to a country club

481
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: and hoping that you meet somebody. Yeah, which is that

482
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,479
Speaker 1: is the other thing? Too? Is like funny that all

483
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:43,600
Speaker 1: these trends are talking about on TikTok. A lot of

484
00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:48,720
Speaker 1: them seem foolish. It's kind of weird. Are you on TikTok?

485
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with TikTok? Another one it's not it's not

486
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 1: should we start that the TikTok challenge you gotta slip

487
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Speaker 1: clap four? Will is gonna wake up the weeks to

488
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:11,840
Speaker 1: come from our filming of all of this. Yeah, not

489
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: a chance is that ever going to happen no again,

490
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:17,760
Speaker 1: for your college is not what it used to be.

491
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: You do sometimes come out qualified for absolutely nothing, carrying

492
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 1: a large amount of debt, which is why a two

493
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: year school that can focus what you want to do, UM,

494
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,480
Speaker 1: where you learn a trade like that huguely important, and

495
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,400
Speaker 1: then you come out and like an apprenticeship. But it's

496
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: also you know, electricians, plumbers and people that are making

497
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: a ton of money. Oh yeah, just at what they

498
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,560
Speaker 1: do are alively in demand. They're always needed. UM. So

499
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: this idea that where it's like, you know, I've spent

500
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,320
Speaker 1: several hundred thousand dollars, I'm nine thos in debt, and

501
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna move back in with my parents because I'm

502
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: actually qualified to do nothing. For a lot of people,

503
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: that's not a good thing for some people. You want

504
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: to move on. You want to be some sort of

505
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Speaker 1: other professional. You know, you want to be a teacher,

506
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Speaker 1: you want to be something like that. I get it,

507
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 1: But but you don't regret those two years, right or

508
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Speaker 1: do you kind of feel like maybe you could have

509
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: just jump to where you are now. I don't regret it,

510
00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: not because of the schooling, because I feel like college. Um. Again,

511
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: I was taking communications, but UM eventually switched because I

512
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 1: was like, I wanted to be an actor. Let me

513
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: just do join the theater, like I don't whatever, joined

514
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: the theater and see if I like think I like

515
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,800
Speaker 1: that more? I don't know because my again, my grandmother

516
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: had passed my younger brothers who I haven't mentioned yet,

517
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: but one of them is autistic and the other one

518
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Speaker 1: has a d h D and you know stuff like that.

519
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 1: But they were getting older, so I didn't feel like

520
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Speaker 1: I needed to be and so I was like, let

521
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Speaker 1: me try this theater thing out and see if I

522
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: like it. Um. And I did it for a year

523
00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 1: in Worcester State. I love you, but also, UM, it didn't.

524
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 1: It doesn't have the best theater program at all. UM.

525
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: So I took it. And then I was like, I

526
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,600
Speaker 1: feel like I learned more from YouTube than I am

527
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: taking this real force. Yeah, because it's just I was like,

528
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not learning anything. I'm not learning any

529
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: script analysis. There really was no acting class. Um. To

530
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: get your degree. You had to because I didn't have

531
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: enough people to UM do like do set design. You

532
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,440
Speaker 1: had to do like forty hours of unpaid labor to

533
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: pass the course, and I was like, um, this is

534
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: now were you was this during COVID? No, this is so.

535
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: So then were you performing in front of people at least?

536
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: I mean were you know you weren't. It was a

537
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:28,159
Speaker 1: theater program where you weren't performing, you weren't or not nothing.

538
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I would call it a

539
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 1: theater program. Like I took an improv class, okay, which

540
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,119
Speaker 1: is hugely important, especially when it comes to being a

541
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 1: voice over actor, and which which was fun. Yeah. I

542
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: like that a lot. But um, other than that, like

543
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: there was one acting class. Do you think you'll end

544
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: up taking an acting class here? Yes? I probably will

545
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: be weary, weary, we can we can give you some yea,

546
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: but also be you know, proactive. Yeah, because it's you know,

547
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,640
Speaker 1: one of the things that we've for all the guests

548
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: we've had come on here, and we've had directors, we've

549
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: had now some you know Bowser who's the best in

550
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, it is a nice smile, you know,

551
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: arguably the best in the world. Um, and was an

552
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 1: artist and all that kind of stuff. They all say

553
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: the same thing where it's like everybody thinks they can

554
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:12,679
Speaker 1: just come out here and be a voice actor, and

555
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 1: they forget because they can do funny voices, they forget

556
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: that the acting is the most important part. Yes, And

557
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:19,399
Speaker 1: Eric said that was his problem when he started, was

558
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: he said, I could do a whole bunch of funny voices,

559
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,120
Speaker 1: but I was at but I wasn't that great an actor.

560
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: Yeah that's Marvin the Martian. I hate people that are talented.

561
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: But here Eric just did that, so freaking cool. Yeah

562
00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 1: he did it while doing the voice of course. Yeah,

563
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:43,000
Speaker 1: of course, of course. So that's uh yeah, but it's

564
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: that's what they've all said, is that everybody's like, you know,

565
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: make sure that you you're you're acting because that's the

566
00:27:47,880 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: most important parts being an actor. Um. Got so strange

567
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 1: that to hear about that that acting program where you're

568
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: not because I forget. It was like, well, at least

569
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: you know, maybe you're not you're not learning what you can,

570
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 1: but you're getting experience acting in front of other people,

571
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: so you can kind of get over that Chinese you

572
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: were talking about. And we're kind of thrown into the

573
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: mix of a little bit. Let me preference it by

574
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: saying that, uh, some of that is on me because

575
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: I still had my anxiety and my stuff like that.

576
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: I could have auditioned. There was I think two plays

577
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: that were happening while I was there. Um, I just

578
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,119
Speaker 1: didn't because I wasn't at that point where I was

579
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 1: comfortable enough with that. Because I was expecting. I was like, oh, acting,

580
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,239
Speaker 1: I could just get comfortable in acting classes and then

581
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: I can you know when I'm ready for that. But

582
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 1: I never stayed long enough for it too. But I

583
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: also didn't learn anything or get in a position where

584
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 1: I was like performing even in front of my own

585
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: classmates or anything like that. It just didn't happen. You

586
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 1: were an amazing journey, really, because you're here now doing

587
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: so well, and you're going to do big things, and

588
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,440
Speaker 1: you already have such a great community around you, that family,

589
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: you know that it's here for you, and like you're

590
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: finding all of that and that's all kind of happening.

591
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: But in listening to your journey, it's really beautiful and

592
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: it's cool that you there was something in you kind

593
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: of like guiding you. There was something in your mind

594
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 1: like because you're like, this is not enough, this is

595
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:03,680
Speaker 1: not enough. I'm going to go back to YouTube. I'm

596
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna do the work the best way

597
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,479
Speaker 1: that I can with the resources that I have. And

598
00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: you kept going back to that, and you kept educating

599
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: yourself to the best of your ability, and you didn't.

600
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: I mean, she didn't really need the classes, and yeah

601
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: not not everybody does, or at least if you're not

602
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: getting the stuff that you need for But did you

603
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: get it's tough to meet you right? Did you book

604
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:34,000
Speaker 1: that role back there? No? So wait, yes, but you're

605
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 1: a week Um sorry, would like your cheers set your

606
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: instrument with my You're not supposed to cheers with water. No,

607
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 1: you can cheers with water. You can't toast with water.

608
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: That's that's what it is. Pretty much what had happened

609
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: was I got to the point because of my adoption,

610
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: I could go to any state school kind of your

611
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: free on top of the PELL grant and other stuff

612
00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 1: like that. So I hadn't spent any money. I'm I

613
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: will be the first to mention that even though like

614
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: I didn't have the money to do things and I

615
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: didn't get the opportunity to things, I was still very privileged. Um,

616
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: so I didn't have to pay for college. So when

617
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: it came to the point where I was like depressed

618
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,160
Speaker 1: enough and I was like I don't want to do

619
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: this thing enough. I talked to my mother and I

620
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: was like, hey, we haven't really spent any money on college.

621
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: I will take a year off, which every dropout says,

622
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 1: I'll take a gear off and then you know here

623
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: I'll go back. Yeah. Yeah, So the beginning of twenty nineteen,

624
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 1: I got a booth. Um. I got a booth because

625
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I wanted to be professional and

626
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: I luckily I had the money and everything like that,

627
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: which went on like a Facebook marketplace and I was

628
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 1: like both with and eventually found one in Brooklyn. So

629
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: me and my cousin rented a U haul, drove down

630
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: to Brooklyn, broke it down at the guy's house or

631
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: it back to Massachusetts and set it up. So I

632
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: got that. I had like an annoyment. I had, you know,

633
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of other stuff that I saved money

634
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: for and bought and got, but there was no work.

635
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 1: So for about like real work, like then do the

636
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: fan stuff, but you wanted to make that leader. I

637
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Speaker 1: was kind of at the point where I was like,

638
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Speaker 1: I know I'm good enough to I hear what is

639
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: being put out into the world, and I feel like

640
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: I am on that same level, and not in a

641
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: cocky way, but just like to confidence. Yeah, you have

642
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: to walk in and know that you're better than the

643
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: guy next to you, or you're never going to work.

644
00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: You have to stand up and claim for yourself. And

645
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: if you're putting all that work in over all those

646
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,719
Speaker 1: years and you have that passion, then yeah, in the

647
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: goog Way industry works especially, it's like it's really not

648
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,720
Speaker 1: about well, you want to make sure you're good, obviously,

649
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: but if you if nobody knows who you are, it's

650
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: just a voice in a box exactly. You could be

651
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: the best guy in your room, yep, and it doesn't

652
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: really matter. But you didn't feel like any of your

653
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: anxiety and stuff that that was holding you back or anything, right,

654
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: If anything, he was motivating you. Yeah. No, I'm kind

655
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 1: of impatient. So I I got all the stuff. That's

656
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: why I got everything so quickly. Everybody's like, don't buy

657
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: that equipment, and I was like, I'm good enough to

658
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: have the equipment. It'll pay for it. I don't care.

659
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: So I got the equipment, and then I was still

660
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: doing the work. I was still like practicing At this point,

661
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,959
Speaker 1: I started to take voice over like workshops and stuff.

662
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: So with anybody we know Mary Elizabeth and Richard and

663
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: Crispin and a whole bunch of other produce bloom you

664
00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 1: do uh not d Bradley Baker either, just because those

665
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: classes are so hard to get into. Everybody's like, I'm

666
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: sure can make a call. I think. I think also

667
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: Mary would help you out with her husband's yeah. Um

668
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: but yeah, that's so I was. I was kind of

669
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: like in this space where I was like a man,

670
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: nobody like, you know, nobody paying attention. So I was like,

671
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: what can I do? What can I do? What can

672
00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: I do? When I got on Twitter and I was like, well,

673
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,239
Speaker 1: let me just be around my community, you know, get

674
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: me get involved in my community, let me uplift other people,

675
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: you know, let me like get involved because of all

676
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: social media. Social media. Um, so the end of twenty

677
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,720
Speaker 1: nineteen happened. Oh, I don't think anything big happened to

678
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: the under on nineteen. I think I got a couple

679
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: of regional agents just by gold Emiling, but like I

680
00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: wasn't getting consistent work from them, like maybe an audition

681
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: or two. Um, So it wasn't anything where I was like,

682
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: I can write home about this because the rule book

683
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 1: said you don't want to reach out to a national

684
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: agency until you have resume and all this other stuff.

685
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: And I was like, well the rules say so I

686
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: didn't do anything. So happens and we all know what

687
00:33:23,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: happens in uh. But around then March was when everything happened,

688
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: like this shutdown and everything like that. But slightly before that,

689
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 1: I had worked on a project. This is where I

690
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: met my girlfriend. Actually, I had worked on a project

691
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: called a podcast. And I like doing audio dramas because

692
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:45,600
Speaker 1: they're more serious. Um. I didn't like doing the funny stuff.

693
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 1: I kind of vibed more with on camera styles of

694
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: grounded acting. Um. So I was like, that's what I

695
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: like to do and on you know more Batman in

696
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: the animated series and Loony Tunes. Yeah, exactly, So that's

697
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: what I was. I was working on a project Khalila

698
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 1: storm Fire Economical Magic Services right hand right there, um

699
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: and I was on that project with my eventual girlfriend

700
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: of narsisis who's alter the CSC. So the audio engineer

701
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,279
Speaker 1: on that project happened to be the head of the

702
00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,760
Speaker 1: audio department for d N Audio, which is an audio book,

703
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: like producer UM, and they have a whole bunch of

704
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: a whole like I looked them up. They have a

705
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 1: big list of I think that a Debbie dairy baby

706
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: that's our last name. I don't remember, but she plays

707
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: Jimmy from Jimmy Neutron and UM and she you know,

708
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 1: she was on there. So I was like, Okay, this

709
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: is legit. And I got on that and I got

710
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 1: offered an audition for a book called A Song of

711
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,839
Speaker 1: Wraiths and Ruin. I did the audition and I got

712
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: that as my first audio book. You know, audio books

713
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: are awesome. Audio books are fantastic. Do you did you

714
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: enjoy that experience? I did. I was scared. I was

715
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: very scared. UM, but I did enjoy the experience. UM,

716
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,399
Speaker 1: I knew using your it was my first time ever

717
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: doing a profession. You did it for yourself. You did

718
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: you produce? You produced your own audiobook or you were

719
00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: in this time? You must have recorded from your both

720
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 1: I recorded from my book everything shut down. They wanted

721
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: to get me into a studio, like if you're comfortable.

722
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I have two people with with

723
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: problems and take UM and I was like, I don't

724
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: feel comfortable going into a studio, and they were like, okay, fine,

725
00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: well do you have send us a sample? And my

726
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: sample was good. And it was kind of around the

727
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: time when every voice actor was like struggling to find

728
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: a booth and get all that stuff. And I had

729
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: hard body year prior, so I was fine, um, and

730
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 1: I had source connect and I had everything that I

731
00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: needed because I just started Head of the Game already.

732
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: He started paying for it because I was like, I

733
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: if I ever need it, I don't want to be

734
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: able to I don't want to say no to a

735
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: project again. You were like called to doing this. Yeah,

736
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like random voice. Still don't

737
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,279
Speaker 1: even know who that is. Um, but uh yeah, So

738
00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: I did that book and um it was like around

739
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: I think spring ish um when I and it was

740
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: really hot, and I remember like sweating profusely and like

741
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: you're pressing out because I was so nervous in your

742
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: in your yeah, because it was really hot and you

743
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,800
Speaker 1: were nervous as you were recording it. Extremely nervous. Whenever

744
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,400
Speaker 1: I do something, I found whenever I do something for

745
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: the first time. I've only recently recorded in the studio

746
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: for the first time, and I was like, I'm nervous

747
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: when I read my audiobook. I'm nervous my first callback nervous.

748
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: But after that, I'm fine. But I was very very nervous. UM.

749
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: And that's like a long time, like amount of time

750
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 1: to be nervous. Ye had to do three days every

751
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: day and it was eight hours. M yeahs I I recently,

752
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: I was doing a lot of audio books. I haven't

753
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,720
Speaker 1: been doing a lot of video work in animation and stuff,

754
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: and so I took to doing a lot of audio

755
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: books as I was sort of I was pregnant and

756
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,359
Speaker 1: I'm moving around UM. And it was really it's it's

757
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: a really different experience in terms of it being a

758
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: part of the the industry of voice Have you done

759
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: any kind of an audiobook? I have? I have. I

760
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: did some of the chicken soup stuff and stuff back

761
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: in the day, So I did. They were they were cool.

762
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: There was always be like a quote from one of

763
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: us or something in the front and then repeat a

764
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: bunch of the stories and things like that. Yeah. The

765
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 1: autobook world is again the thing that's very cool about

766
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:22,439
Speaker 1: the voiceover industry. And we've talked about this before. There's

767
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: worlds built in the world's built in the World's built

768
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: in the world. Um, so you'll get commercial actors, you'll

769
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: get books on tape. That. The new big thing now,

770
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 1: which I'm I'm we've just done, is there's um they're

771
00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 1: starting to dom basically their audio movies. So we're doing

772
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: UH one right now. They just released the first section

773
00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:44,280
Speaker 1: of it based on a seventies and eighties UH graphic

774
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: novels called elf Quest, which were cool and they were

775
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 1: like twenty actors. We all went in and then they

776
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,280
Speaker 1: take it and they do it just like a regular

777
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: like with folly and full on fully battle scenes with

778
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: courses and you hear the blood and yeah, really really cool.

779
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,920
Speaker 1: And that's not the same thing as audio. It was

780
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 1: like an audio drama. It's just a little more in

781
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: depth with the way that they're recording and multiple cat

782
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,760
Speaker 1: it's not you know, it's it's people from a cast

783
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:13,360
Speaker 1: and it can get very it was, but it was

784
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 1: a remote ont was my first ever remote ensemble record,

785
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: so there was all of us. We were synked up

786
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,600
Speaker 1: through multiple boots literally around the country. Two people were

787
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: in Vegas, I was in l A. Two people were

788
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: in New York. But we're all recording at the same time,

789
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: so they had to sink us all together. Um. But

790
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: it was so, I mean, there's you know, then there's

791
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,400
Speaker 1: then there's animation, then there's within animation, then there's the

792
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: you know, the anime and voice dubbing, which is an

793
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,080
Speaker 1: entirely different thing. So it's everybody thinks it's like I'm

794
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 1: a voiceover actor. I'm in the world. It's like what

795
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: you're in one of the worlds, which is in a world,

796
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: which is in a world, which is in a world

797
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,000
Speaker 1: it's the Russian call um. So yeah, it's it was

798
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 1: very very cool. But the I'm still so you're you're

799
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 1: in there, you're recording your audio book, you're loving it.

800
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 1: Where do you get from there to then essentially you're

801
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: starring in Tokyo Revengers. Okay, so I I did the

802
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: audio book. Now that goes back to what I was saying.

803
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: There's two things. One the pandemic. Without the pandemic, none

804
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: of this is possible because beforehand they were like, you

805
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: gotta be an l A, you gotta be in Texas.

806
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: We can't record you remotely. They're a little bit more

807
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 1: close minded unless you're you know, Steve bloom where you're somebody,

808
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,800
Speaker 1: yeah anymore. Yeah. There were so many and everybody was

809
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,120
Speaker 1: like it's impossible, like we can't do it. And I

810
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: was like, I know it's possible because you do it

811
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 1: all the time for specific people, but you know, I

812
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: can't do anything. But the pandemic made it possible. And

813
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,240
Speaker 1: the Floyd protests because there was this trend on Twitter

814
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 1: whenever when the Floyd protests happened, um black creatives of

815
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: all kinds, writers, authors, actors, voice actors, we're getting boosted.

816
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: They were like, look at these people's work. They deserve

817
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: to be seen. Look at them. And now I had

818
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: done a song of Race and Ruin. I announced I

819
00:39:58,480 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 1: had done a song of Race and Ruin, and I

820
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 1: really have any follow I think I had like a

821
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: thousand maybe, and everybody was like really excited. I had

822
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: like five was a huge. But because people were so

823
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: actively looking at POC, I had people in the industry looking.

824
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, well, can you send me your demo,

825
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: let's see you. Yeah, and you were set up for

826
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: that in terms of ready to go. And because of

827
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: the audio dramas I'd done, I had worked with an

828
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: engineer that it was like you're amazing. Can you help

829
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 1: me with making a demo? I wrote my own demos

830
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: because I was a decent writer, and I was like,

831
00:40:30,239 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: I think I know my voice better than a trust

832
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: a random person, but I don't know how to engineer.

833
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 1: Can you help me? And he's again amazing. Now he's

834
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 1: like working with video game companies and stuff like that,

835
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,359
Speaker 1: but back then he wasn't. And he did my demo.

836
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: So I had like a really solid, really professional sounding

837
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: demo that I was giving to people, and that got

838
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 1: me an Animaze studio and stuff like that, but not

839
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 1: enough to get me work, but enough to where people

840
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: were listening they were like, oh, who's this a j guy?

841
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: You know? Um also a Neres who is now my girlfriend,

842
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: but back then was my friend had book anime as well,

843
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: and she booked a very two big characters, one big

844
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 1: character on the show called Pokemon and another big character

845
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: on the show Pokemon. What is it? It's just show

846
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: pocket Monster. So she booked that and it was like

847
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: a short and that got like thirty thousand likes when

848
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: she announced that, And then she booked a character named

849
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: Miraco on my show called My Hiro Academia, which is

850
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:29,600
Speaker 1: probably the bigger, biggest show. Um, and everybody loves Americo

851
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: another thirty thousand, Like she blew up another friend of

852
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:37,439
Speaker 1: mine now Xina Robinson. Uh, he announced a character named Hawks,

853
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 1: who's probably the most popular non main character of that show.

854
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: He blew up, um, and now where are you? Guys?

855
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 1: Are you in masks? So what do you mean? Are you?

856
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: Where are you living right now? I'm in Massachusetts. So

857
00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: she's in Florida. Ok. Yeah, she's in Florida. So I

858
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 1: start to interact with them, not because I'm like, oh,

859
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 1: like I need to use these people, but more so

860
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,240
Speaker 1: because I was like, I have never seen black people

861
00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: in anime in major roles like this before. And you guys,

862
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 1: well one of them is my friend. The other one.

863
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: I was like, whoa I because my my number one

864
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: thing when I said to be a voice actor was

865
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: like you look up voice actors, um, and you would

866
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: see like when you look up like voices of Tara

867
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: Strong or something like, right, you see a whole like

868
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: in the thumbnail, like walls and walls of characters of

869
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: different races, monsters, everything. But when you look up black

870
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: voice actors, you only see black characters or monsters. And

871
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: I was like, I want to be the first black

872
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:35,760
Speaker 1: person male whatever um to voice a very popular non

873
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:41,240
Speaker 1: black role in the anime industry. And Zeno did it first,

874
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, now I know it's possible to

875
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Representation is important because of that, right, it's so important

876
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: because I was like, oh, I like I was saying

877
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: that and I was going to do it, but like,

878
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,719
Speaker 1: now I know I can do it. UM. So that

879
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,840
Speaker 1: led to you know, I guess more more eyes on me.

880
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,600
Speaker 1: But I didn't get me any opportunities, I'd say, And

881
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: then she's just saying you weren't handed anything, you know

882
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: what I mean? No, no, no, UM. And so I

883
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: was taking workshops more often and stuff like that, trying

884
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 1: to get better because there is a limit to how

885
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: much you can learn by yourself. Um, there absolutely is,

886
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: um the YouTube exactly. And I couldn't take any in

887
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,800
Speaker 1: person classes. I was like, well, I can take workshops,

888
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 1: so I did. UM and and again back in the day,

889
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 1: you had most of the workshops happen in person, and

890
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't pay for some hundred dollar plane

891
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: ticket to take eight hundred dollar class for a day,

892
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 1: So it wasn't feasible. But UM, I had a bunch

893
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: of savings from working at a grocery store for you

894
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: know a little bit, and I took as many as

895
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:41,959
Speaker 1: I could, Um, grocery store back east stopping shop, no

896
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 1: price shopper, price shopping. Yeah yeah, um that's called price shop,

897
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: price shop. So I did that. Um, but there was

898
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 1: I wasn't booking anything other than other audio books because

899
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 1: the audio book that I read wanted to be a

900
00:43:57,560 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 1: New York Time bestseller um, and was huge Number one.

901
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: Audiobooks are exploded again. So yeah, so there was that,

902
00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 1: and then, um, what else did it lead to? I

903
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: think it was like number one on the What's audio

904
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: drama section of Audio drama audio book section of Amazon

905
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Yeah, and it was. It was.

906
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: It was half me and half another a woman named

907
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: Jordan's um. But they're very loyal, like the audible people.

908
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Everybody who hires in the audiobook are very loyal, and

909
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 1: they'll come back immediately and they'll be like, hey, we

910
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: need to have another book for you. Ended up doing

911
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: seven seven books that year, but I didn't do I

912
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: didn't book anything else. I wasn't booking, and I was like,

913
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:46,720
Speaker 1: I am garbage best at this too. Wow, I'm terrible

914
00:44:46,760 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: and I'm made horrible mistake because welcome to the entertainment industry. Yeah,

915
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 1: I love it. But throughout this whole time, I was like,

916
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: sorry to get more and more known and everything like

917
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: that and getting better opportunities, but I still wasn't booking anything, um,

918
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:00,799
Speaker 1: And I think part of that has to do with

919
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,760
Speaker 1: the talent being better. Obviously the better you get, the

920
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: people around you are better as well. I mean, it

921
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: is what it is. Were you also doing social media stuff,

922
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: like you were mentioning social media in general as a

923
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: part of your way into the community of other you know,

924
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: the yeah kind of I was. I was writing my

925
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 1: own I was like, whoa, I have nothing to do, um,

926
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: and nobody's given me. So I was like I would

927
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: write my own like little mini quote unquote skits and

928
00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:27,319
Speaker 1: then I was, you know, a minute or so long,

929
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,240
Speaker 1: I would post it online. They didn't blow up or anything,

930
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: but that was my way of showing people, um. But

931
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 1: other than that was just interacting. I was just being

932
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: like when people would announce I'm voicing this character and

933
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: be like congrats, like that's awesome. I would try to

934
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 1: be positive because it's like put yourself into the community.

935
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: I did. I did, and and and again, not and

936
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: slightly in a strategic way, but also like mostly I

937
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: was just like I want to be a positive you know,

938
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I feel like there's a lot of negativity

939
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: on social media. You know, it's crazy all positive stuff,

940
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: happy people, only recently happy people. But I was like,

941
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: I want to be a positive voice. So I was

942
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: just interacting with my my friends that I had gained

943
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: and everything like that. But it would still feel very

944
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:16,880
Speaker 1: reclusive because I'm i my bed, I get up, I

945
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 1: have something to do, I have auditions, I might bed

946
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:26,760
Speaker 1: and my room wasn't big, very enclosed world. Yeah, so um,

947
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 1: but that's what I did. But I was I got

948
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: to a point where I was very depressed because I

949
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: couldn't leave my house and I was like all of

950
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: my work is in my room, and I was like

951
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 1: I was in a very dark place for a little bit. Um,

952
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: and then I was like nobody's ever gonna watch the

953
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: point I was like nobody's gonna give me, but I

954
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: still kept trying, and I was like, well, people that

955
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 1: give up don't see any results. So I was like

956
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 1: I'll just keep going, and you know, who else That

957
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: same thing happened to every other actor. Now I keep going,

958
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,319
Speaker 1: and I always the same advice I tell people I

959
00:46:56,360 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: tell myself. I was like, hey, whenever I had those

960
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 1: dark moments where I'm like, I don't off I like this,

961
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: I was like, can I imagine doing anything else with

962
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:05,359
Speaker 1: my life? Nope, Okay, I'll keep doing it. There that's

963
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: actually healthy, yeah, you know health. Yeah, But if I could,

964
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: I'd be like, all right, it's time to hang it

965
00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: up for a little bit, you know, maybe not forever,

966
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: but for a little bit. But I never got to

967
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 1: that point. Yeah I did. I mean not with not

968
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: with voiceover, but with on camera, to the point where

969
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,319
Speaker 1: I just went, I'm not I'm done too years seventeen years, Yeah,

970
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,320
Speaker 1: too much. Sometimes I just didn't want to do anyone.

971
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: I just couldn't do it any um I. Um So,

972
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: then did you get an audition? Is it just like

973
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: a regular Is that what happened? No, so workshops. I

974
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: was like what every I was like, tired of rules.

975
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: I was tired of everybody being like, you have to

976
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: do this this because you have to have the order

977
00:47:39,160 --> 00:47:41,640
Speaker 1: you have to follow. I didn't have a resume, but

978
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,160
Speaker 1: I knew I was good at commercial. I'm really actually

979
00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: thinking that this is going to be a really positive

980
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 1: and important podcast episode for us because it is well

981
00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 1: it also shows the way it because this is this

982
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,360
Speaker 1: is one path where it's like like a genuine path exactly.

983
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 1: We've talked to many people, right like, we're really lucky

984
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: and privileged areselves to be able to access e g.

985
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: Daily or Kevin Conroyer, like any of those people who

986
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: have been in it for decades. But what we have

987
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: not been able to really track is someone when not

988
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: only your point of view, your journey, your goals, the

989
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,439
Speaker 1: things that you wanted to and want to contribute to

990
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: the voice of our community in a big way, but like, yeah,

991
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 1: like how exactly you did it and didn't get discouraged

992
00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: Because when we're at CON's, I'm at like a loss.

993
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: When young people younger than you around your age like

994
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 1: come up to us, they are like, I have a

995
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: great daffy docker, I have these great voices I and

996
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,880
Speaker 1: I love drawing and I love this and how do

997
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: I do it? And we are like, well, you can

998
00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 1: take the online courses and you can do this, but

999
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:46,680
Speaker 1: like it's hard to say go for it because it's

1000
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: such a blanket statement. Well, you're also potentially telling somebody

1001
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: who might not have I mean, here, here's the thing.

1002
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, A lot of it,

1003
00:48:57,520 --> 00:48:58,799
Speaker 1: not all of it, but a lot of it comes

1004
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,480
Speaker 1: down to talent. So you could be telling somebody who

1005
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 1: unfortunately maybe doesn't have the talent that a j does, sure,

1006
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 1: give up whatever you're doing and go for it. And

1007
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, wow, that's not good advice because

1008
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: you can't sing, you can't act, you can't I mean again,

1009
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 1: I could want to be the best, the best pop

1010
00:49:15,480 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: star in the world. I can't sing. I just can't.

1011
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:21,440
Speaker 1: So you know, somebody, some singer, my favorite singer, it's

1012
00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: telling me, hey, give up what you're what you're doing

1013
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,919
Speaker 1: right now and become a singer would be really bad

1014
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,320
Speaker 1: advice for me. I think that there is a difference

1015
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: and then we should most definitely get back to your journey.

1016
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,480
Speaker 1: But there is a difference between saying to somebody, give up,

1017
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: give up what you're you know, give up everything that

1018
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: you're doing to make a living and go and you know,

1019
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: achieve your dreams and something like what you said where

1020
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 1: she was like, if you're a singer, sing if that

1021
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: is making you happy? What what what she means is

1022
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: like what you were doing, which is like you know

1023
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: the passion for it, and you're educating yourself and you're

1024
00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:57,440
Speaker 1: putting yourself on the It's hard. It's hard. There's a

1025
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:01,440
Speaker 1: well William Daniels, who played Mr Finie on Boy Mean's World,

1026
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: would always tell us the same thing. We'd always say, what,

1027
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: what's the best advice you could give a young actor?

1028
00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,720
Speaker 1: And he always said the same thing. He said, actors act. Yeah,

1029
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:10,840
Speaker 1: so he said that means if you're with your family

1030
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: and they don't know what to do, you stand up

1031
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: in front of him and you act. He goes, If

1032
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 1: you're in a mall and you don't do, you act

1033
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: because actors act. You take whatever opportunity you have to

1034
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: do the thing you love, whatever it is. I don't

1035
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: care how small it is. I don't care if you're

1036
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: in a shopping mall, I don't care. You take that

1037
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,279
Speaker 1: opportunity and you do it well. And aj aj you

1038
00:50:26,320 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 1: are exactly that. But also making the opportunity happen is

1039
00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:35,359
Speaker 1: the thing I tell and to speak on on that,

1040
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: like the talent thing I still tell. I'm like now

1041
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:39,960
Speaker 1: that I have again, not a huge following, but I'm

1042
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: more and more people are following me. And I always

1043
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 1: say to other voice actors that are starting, you may

1044
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: never get to the point where I am. That's and

1045
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: it's just it is what it is. Um. I accepted

1046
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: that fact when I was starting. I was like, I

1047
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: may never be Troy Baker, I may never be insert

1048
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: person here, um, but I like doing this. Um. And

1049
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,120
Speaker 1: I might have to work a normal job. I would

1050
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: have to work three jobs. I'll never be Eric Bows.

1051
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: I just won't. It's just I'll never be I mean again,

1052
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: but on my own thing and the exactly we've got

1053
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 1: our own paths. That's the thing, right, It's just as

1054
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: long as you are fulfilling that part of life's too short.

1055
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 1: If you're happy, that's what that's Yeah, exactly, Sorry we

1056
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 1: interrupted you. You're fine. I still want to know how

1057
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,880
Speaker 1: you how you got you got TAKERMICI and almost almost

1058
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:37,480
Speaker 1: really close actually, um so those workshops again. UM, I

1059
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 1: was like, I'm tired of rules and everybody says you

1060
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: have to cold email, you have to say. I was like,

1061
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm what's the best way. I feel like people that

1062
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,600
Speaker 1: are agents want to make money, and I feel like,

1063
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: if I'm good enough to make the money, they won't

1064
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: care about my resume. Uh, They'll just want me. So

1065
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: I was like, well, how can I do that? I

1066
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 1: wasn't assuming the industries about money. You're crazy thinking agents

1067
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 1: want to make money? Crazy? Are there there for you?

1068
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,879
Speaker 1: But you know, I was like, what can I do? Well,

1069
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: there's agency workshops where you can go and you can,

1070
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 1: you know, interact with an Asian and figure out what

1071
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 1: they look for when they're And I was like, well,

1072
00:52:18,680 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 1: I hadn't booked anything in seven months, so this is

1073
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what else to do. And I was like,

1074
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm I also know I'm good enough. So I was like,

1075
00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: you know, let me take an agency workshop. So I

1076
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: looked up agencies. Um, I mean, I've already knew what

1077
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: the agencies were, but I was like, what agencies are

1078
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: doing workshops right now? And at the time, Abram's Artists

1079
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: Agency was doing a workshop and I took that workshop,

1080
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what I could? I

1081
00:52:46,239 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: think what better way to prove to an agent that

1082
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: I'm ready than to knock their socks off in front

1083
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: of ten other people that are also trying to get

1084
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 1: their attention. In front of them, people with someone that

1085
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 1: I've never interacted with and a huge opportunity whatever, or

1086
00:52:58,560 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 1: maybe I don't go off, maybe I don't go crazy,

1087
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 1: and maybe I just learned something new. So I went

1088
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: there and it was a commercial workshop, and I just

1089
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 1: so happened to be good commercial and I was like,

1090
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,880
Speaker 1: you know what, that's what you started at ye to

1091
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: make money? Do you remember? Yeah? I mean, of course

1092
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't about you ask him if he remembers his

1093
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: own life, remember when you do, you remember what you said,

1094
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: I'm the best podcast. You are absolutely entertaining. We'll give

1095
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: you that every step of the way. UM. But I

1096
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: took the workshop and I UM during it, I was like,

1097
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: you know, can we reach out because some of them

1098
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: to say we don't take on solicited emails. And they

1099
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, go go and reach out. It's just

1100
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: like it's for legality reasons sometimes they put that there,

1101
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: but you know, reach out what it couldn't hurt. And

1102
00:53:50,680 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, that just gave me

1103
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 1: enough to do that because I don't care. I think

1104
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: a lot of my peers, um that I love dearly,

1105
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:02,919
Speaker 1: are too afraid. The worst thing that you can do

1106
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,320
Speaker 1: is like, be very cordial and they'll be like I

1107
00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: don't want you, and then they won't respond to your email,

1108
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: like you'll be okay. UM. So that was like, all right,

1109
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: no un solicited emails. You say, that's okay. I'm going

1110
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 1: to message every single national agency in this country and

1111
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: I am going to you know, put myself out there.

1112
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: So of and also a three because I was like,

1113
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: I know you liked me because you were telling me

1114
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: I was doing very good. You were saying that with everybody,

1115
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,240
Speaker 1: So I was like, I'm going to reach out to you. Also, Also,

1116
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 1: how what do you like when you know when people

1117
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:34,719
Speaker 1: are emailing you? What do you like to see? It's like, oh,

1118
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:37,319
Speaker 1: bullet points. I was like, awesome. So I did the

1119
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: exact way that she she said to UM, and I

1120
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: reached out to her and everyone else. But the only

1121
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: people that got back to me five days later were

1122
00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: her and vox I and and it was the same day,

1123
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:52,080
Speaker 1: within an hour of each other. And an hour before

1124
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: I got any of those emails, I was talking to

1125
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,680
Speaker 1: my friend. I was like, why won't anybody give me

1126
00:54:55,719 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: a chance? Oh my gosh, please, I'm so sick of this.

1127
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 1: And then I on email and Box, and we were

1128
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: like we want you and I was like what and

1129
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: I started screaming. It was right around my house. I

1130
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: was a guy, and so that happened, and then I

1131
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: was right around to sign. They were already sending me

1132
00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: auditions like it was. It was crazy. It happened. You

1133
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: got to be ready and you were and I and

1134
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, this is my last opportunity.

1135
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's ever going to want me again. I have to

1136
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 1: take it. So I was like, yeah, I'm on the

1137
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,440
Speaker 1: paper right out and Abrams got back to me as

1138
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 1: I'm doing that. Um. But ultimately I ended up going

1139
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: with Box. Um boxes, great boxes, wonderful. But oh there's

1140
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:39,040
Speaker 1: a lot of great video agents after that. Some are

1141
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: better than others, but there are, yeah, every some are

1142
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 1: definitely better than others. No, there are great ones out

1143
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: There are a lot of great ones out there, but

1144
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: some are definitely better than Yeah. I've been repped by

1145
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 1: so many different I've been repped by CTSD, I've been

1146
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: repped by Box. Who am I read by now? I

1147
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:58,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I was repped by William Morris and I

1148
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: know I'm I'm with A three. I've been repped by

1149
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:05,480
Speaker 1: A lot of different voice over and they were all awesome. Yeah. No,

1150
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: I mean it was a good I talked. I remember

1151
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: joining and I was like, listen, what what's not going

1152
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 1: to happen? Because I was like, I'm the talent. I

1153
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: will tell you what I expect from you guys, and

1154
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 1: I will do everything that you asked me. But here's

1155
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: what I expect. Um. I am not going to be

1156
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,960
Speaker 1: put in a box of blackness. UM. I wanted you

1157
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 1: more than that. I was like, I messaged uh to

1158
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,799
Speaker 1: the president of you know, he also does commercial and stuff,

1159
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,319
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, listen, and they're not in

1160
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: an aggressive way. I was like, here, UM, I am

1161
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 1: more than happy to do whatever you send me. But um,

1162
00:56:36,719 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: if I start to get more of these kinds of

1163
00:56:39,680 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: size and anything else, when I know there's more, I

1164
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: will take notice of that. And I don't like that

1165
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: very much. And he was very nice and he was like, yeah,

1166
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:49,280
Speaker 1: we absolutely expect that, and I appreciate you coming forward

1167
00:56:49,320 --> 00:56:51,160
Speaker 1: and saying that. I was like, awesome, I'm glad we'round

1168
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: the same page. Um. And I had my meeting that

1169
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: I started with them, and long story short, I eventually

1170
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 1: just got to a point where I was like, I,

1171
00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the best fit for me. Um,

1172
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: And I was like, what's the best way to find

1173
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,880
Speaker 1: another job when you already got one? Um? So I

1174
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,080
Speaker 1: was I was with Fox already, and I was like

1175
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: in an airess at this time had acquired representation from C. E. S.

1176
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 1: D Um and I was you know, she was like, well,

1177
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: why don't I just recommend you to my agents? Sam

1178
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: uh and I love Sam to death and he gave

1179
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:29,760
Speaker 1: the worst, terrible unlike Mary Elizabeth exactly exactly, exactly the record.

1180
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,560
Speaker 1: I've been with CSD for three years. Yeah, so yeah,

1181
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:36,840
Speaker 1: I I my my only voice over reps really yea,

1182
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: ever since the beginning, since the beginning, that's crazy, since

1183
00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: right after Kim Possible Batman. But I had Batman Beyond

1184
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 1: and Kim Possible already and then I went, I'm not

1185
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: repped voice over. I should probably get a voice and

1186
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 1: wrapped so I would be signed you for KP. Well,

1187
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 1: I was on board. I was a Disney kid, you know,

1188
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 1: so they kind of like to keep stuff in the

1189
00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 1: family there, and and Batman Beyond was just because um,

1190
00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: Bruce Tim's wife was a Boarding's World fan. Wow, it

1191
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 1: was after I did those two shows that I went

1192
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:04,720
Speaker 1: into C E. S D and I was like sure

1193
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:07,360
Speaker 1: because Jason, my best friend, Jason Marsden was with C E.

1194
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: S D at the time, and he's like, I think

1195
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: I think you should come in. He was Max in

1196
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie and yeah, he's been he's been everything.

1197
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: He was Binks, Banks and and and so I focus

1198
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:23,360
Speaker 1: and so yeah, he said, you got to commit to

1199
00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 1: meet my agency, and they've been they've been great for me.

1200
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: So I was, yeah, thereas and you're there and you're

1201
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 1: happy there. Well, yeah, I joined the s D and

1202
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: m kind of off of the races. Slightly before I

1203
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: joined c SC, had sent all of my um emails

1204
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 1: out to all the anime cities, which is even the

1205
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,680
Speaker 1: anime because I've always wanted to do anime, and that

1206
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 1: was my main goal on Twitter in general, was getting

1207
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: animate because anime is kind of like that step above

1208
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: the amateur it's becoming it's becoming way more, way more

1209
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: main way more mainstream. But that was like the step

1210
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: and then I was like, what better way to get

1211
00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: recognition than anime. There's nothing else in the world, like

1212
00:58:57,480 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: even Western cartoons, unless you're in the most popular cartoon around. Um.

1213
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,160
Speaker 1: You just it's not the popularity isn't there, um, at

1214
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 1: least on social media. And um, so I was sending

1215
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,080
Speaker 1: out to all the anime studios. Studiopolis was the only

1216
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:12,800
Speaker 1: one to come back to me UM for a show

1217
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:17,720
Speaker 1: called Jujusu Kayson, which is uh was probably the biggest

1218
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: show for anime last year. UM yeah, and I love

1219
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 1: them um and but they were the only ones to

1220
00:59:24,280 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 1: get back to me um and with that audition, and

1221
00:59:26,800 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: I did all of just every single male character blew

1222
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: my voice out doing which was not the best because

1223
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: even if I was cast, I would have been able

1224
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: to do it because of how quick anime moves. So

1225
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: pretty much got that anime opportunity, but nothing came out

1226
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: of it. Um. But they knew who I was. I

1227
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 1: joined C E. S D. I got the audition for

1228
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: Tokyo Avengers, which is through to Studiopolis. I booked that.

1229
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,760
Speaker 1: I also booked another lead character in a different show

1230
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: for Fundimation in Texas at the same time. Those you know,

1231
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 1: we're huge um. And then right after that, I started

1232
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: getting you know, like my first pilot for animated show

1233
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 1: that I did last year. And now I'm the main

1234
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: character on a on an animated show that hasn't quite

1235
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,680
Speaker 1: really talk about yet. Of course, it's it's it's you know,

1236
01:00:11,720 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 1: Guarantee is going to have a couple of seasons and

1237
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: everything like that, and it's a it's a big it's

1238
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: a big thing. So I'm very lucky to be where

1239
01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,520
Speaker 1: I am. There you go, congratulations. Talk about making it

1240
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 1: happen for yourself. It's iconic, it's amazing. I can't wait

1241
01:00:23,720 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 1: to see what you're gonna do. But I also we

1242
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 1: like to have fun. We like to joke, we like

1243
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:32,560
Speaker 1: to do things. You know, I'd like to have some fun.

1244
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: So we have something very cool, and he usually does

1245
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,840
Speaker 1: just feel so ill. So yeah, I thought I was

1246
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 1: gonna do this field. Oh oh, you said you're gonna

1247
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: do spl We're doing something fun here on I hear

1248
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: how you're going to do it. I'm curious, is that

1249
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: how you're gonna do it? Go ahead? What do they

1250
01:00:49,840 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: what do they call that? You can just do this

1251
01:00:51,040 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 1: for six hours into it? You are wow? What jo judge, judge,

1252
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 1: I'm into the A S M R. Okay, basically, we're

1253
01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: gonna do this fun thing. It's going to be interactive

1254
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: Eventually on my social media I posted something before we

1255
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: started filming and I was like, hey, guys, please send

1256
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: in you know, your kids, or if you're a fan

1257
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 1: of animation, send in like a drawing you know of

1258
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,440
Speaker 1: a character that you would like to get voiced by

1259
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: an amazing talented person. So eventually, what we're gonna have

1260
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: is we're gonna have a big screen here and the

1261
01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:27,440
Speaker 1: kids are actually gonna be able to talk to their

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Speaker 1: favorite voiceover actors and then show the stuff that they've drawn,

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Speaker 1: and then their favorite voice over actors will be able

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Speaker 1: to put a voice to it. But since we don't

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Speaker 1: have the screen yet, we do have some artwork here,

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Speaker 1: and so if you don't mind, we're gonna randomly pick

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Speaker 1: from some of the ones we have here and see

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Speaker 1: if you can put a voice or two together to

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Speaker 1: the character you want to. Are you gonna do your

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Speaker 1: fan out what? Yeah? Yeah? I just randomly pick yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then we'll see at the if you see on

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Speaker 1: the top of the top of the pictures should be

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Speaker 1: the age and the name of the person who did it.

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Speaker 1: And sometimes there's a backstory and sometimes there's not, and

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Speaker 1: they just wow, and you were going to voice it? Okay,

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Speaker 1: you're going to do great if we ever get it out.

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Speaker 1: We call this the really long fan out show, the

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Speaker 1: most nerve wracking thing I've ever done in my don Okay,

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Speaker 1: in just one. Okay, that's this one? And this one?

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Speaker 1: All right? Who do we have here? What do we got? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: Here you go? Okay, it's okay, Okay, this one it's

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Speaker 1: like like a unichitty kind of yeah, okay, Audrey Audrey,

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Speaker 1: Aubrey Aubrey, and you sung it with such gusto, Carol,

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Speaker 1: it's Martha. Sorry, look like a d when I was

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Speaker 1: looking at how do we know how old Aubrey is? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So are unikitty unty? What should we named the character?

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Speaker 1: Is the character already named? So what we've been saying

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Speaker 1: with the characters with no backs, I haven't been nameds

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Speaker 1: we name him after the artist. So that's Aubrey the unikitty,

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Speaker 1: the unitty is that? Is that? How you doing? Sleeping?

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Speaker 1: Beautiful dreams come drops in rainbows? Ay? I want to snuggle.

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Speaker 1: And then this one that's really great, Sam is the

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Speaker 1: is the artist that the illustrator that a wonderful set

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Speaker 1: here in our parents basement? This isn't no this is amazing.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know. We are in our

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Speaker 1: parents basement right now because we went he on brand

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Speaker 1: four years scholarship, twelve years to finish my degree. I've

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Speaker 1: been kidnapped. I'm actually blinked twice. Um, so you can

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Speaker 1: name this one whatever you want. And I think we

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Speaker 1: show it. Can we show it to the camera again? Here? Oh,

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Speaker 1: we we're back. We've got a lot of cats and

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Speaker 1: a lot of fishes, which we like. Yes, and this

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Speaker 1: actually gives me a SMR vibes, like like you know,

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Speaker 1: because this is like hers. Please please do an a

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Speaker 1: SMR fish fish? What is an a SMR fish? I'll do.

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Speaker 1: I'll do some singing to my ASMR, my my pearl,

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Speaker 1: a little baby, don't you cry. You're gonna grow up

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Speaker 1: to survive. I have no idea what you would be

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Speaker 1: saying to her pearl, probably probably whispering them sweet nothings

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Speaker 1: and telling them that it's going to be okay, like Nemo,

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Speaker 1: except it wasn't really okay. And Nemo, sweet little baby,

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Speaker 1: you are the most precious thing I have in my life,

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Speaker 1: and I hope you grow up to be even more

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Speaker 1: precious as time goes on and I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: That made no sense. No, it's actually I thought it

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Speaker 1: was perfect, and I propose you would cast you as

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Speaker 1: his fish. My audition would have been, I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like your character. It really did my personal voice.

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Speaker 1: Now do them anime? Oh okay, let's do them anime

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Speaker 1: really at all? All anime is is a super breathy

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Speaker 1: all the time, little baby. You're going to be the

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Speaker 1: most greatest little pearly ever. And don't you think twice

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Speaker 1: about it? And this one favorite Aubrey's I feel like

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Speaker 1: an anime. This would actually be the most aggressive. Actually,

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Speaker 1: you better not wake me up. How dare you? I'm

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Speaker 1: sleeping here? Yeah, there you go. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for coming. This has been a blasteting to know you

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Speaker 1: and your journey. Well, that's the thing. I've got to

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Speaker 1: be totally honest with you. I thought, this is one

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Speaker 1: of the things I love about this show. I thought,

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Speaker 1: this entire episode is going to go a completely different way.

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Speaker 1: I thought we're going to talk about anime the entire time,

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Speaker 1: And it wasn't about that at all. It was about

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Speaker 1: the actually getting of a legitimate answer to the question

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Speaker 1: of how do I get here? How do I get

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Speaker 1: here from where I was before, which is a place

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Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with the industry, a place

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Speaker 1: that really wasn't surrounded by anything to do with the industry.

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Speaker 1: And I knew what I wanted to do, and now

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Speaker 1: how do I get to where I want to be?

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Speaker 1: And you came in and you just answered that question.

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Speaker 1: Yea super long winded, but pretty much the gist is

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Speaker 1: just worked. Really had any any journeys long, any any

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Speaker 1: journey worth its while? Is long? I mean? So that's

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Speaker 1: I'm here. It's really impressive. You're here, and you're here

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Speaker 1: now in the warmth, crazy. I can't believe it's still

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Speaker 1: but I'm here. We're here for you too. If you

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Speaker 1: ever need anything or any guidance, please please do. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate that is so awesome. A j becles, Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: And don't forget they say youth is wasted on the young,

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Speaker 1: go prove them wrong. Thanks everybody. I hear voices aspoisted

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Speaker 1: by Wilfrid l and Christie Garls and Romano, produced by

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Speaker 1: Elizabeth Joy Windham and executive produced by Brendan Rooney and

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Speaker 1: Wilfred l. Our Sound engineer and editor is Elizabeth Joy

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Speaker 1: Wyndham and our video editor is at Guardo Gamba and

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Speaker 1: that was my announcer voice. Some side effects of listening

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