WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Shanice Wilson & Tracie Spencer 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:06.960 What's Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. We Rolling, OK, 0:00:07.960 --> 0:00:09.040 let's do this. 0:00:10.280 --> 0:00:11.879 Supremo. 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.480 Roll Come Supremo. 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:21.600 Supremo, Roll call, Supremo, sup Supremo, Roll Supremo. 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:28.160 Suck Supremo. Someone up there loves me theme of the show. Yeah, 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:30.680 because how we pulled this up off? Yeah, I will 0:00:30.800 --> 0:00:31.319 never know. 0:00:33.000 --> 0:00:39.720 Supremo Supremo, Role Supremo Supremo. 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:41.600 My name is Fante. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:42.080 Yeah. 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:45.360 I'm trying not to shout yeah because my inner thirteen 0:00:45.440 --> 0:00:47.319 year old it's freaking out. 0:00:49.920 --> 0:00:55.400 Supremo, Roll Supremo, Supremo. 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:00.440 My name is Sugar. Yeah, my wraps are tasty, so 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:01.600 lunch is served. 0:01:02.920 --> 0:01:15.120 And Tracy, I'm unpaid Billy, believe it or not. 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.200 Now we know who shot Tupac. 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:34.120 Supriv Yeah, just living out dreams. Tracy and Shawnee. I 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:38.720 don't even know what this means. 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:40.200 Supprivo roll call. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:49.160 My name is Shanese. I love to smile. I'm sitting here, 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:51.400 don't know how. 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:59.280 Supprivov Supremo. 0:01:59.480 --> 0:02:03.960 Role. My name is Rath. I like to begin. 0:02:05.080 --> 0:02:07.160 I don't know what I'm doing. Yeah, but. 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:17.279 Suppriva so Suppriva Supremo. 0:02:18.600 --> 0:02:30.360 Suppre Okay, Look everyone, everyone, everyone, everyone, this is what 0:02:30.360 --> 0:02:30.799 we're gonna do. 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:34.200 This is what we're gonna do. I want everyone to 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:41.119 in hell ex heal in hell, and we all got 0:02:41.120 --> 0:02:51.880 COVID again. Okay, okay, So a funny thing happened on 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:57.200 my way to the forums. Yeah. So occasionally I will 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:01.480 put out an A P B or where are they 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:04.800 now for some of my favorites throughout the years on 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:08.679 social media, and nine times out of ten, you know, 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:13.760 it's tumbleweeds and no responses or whatever, especially in the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:16.360 case of one of our guests. And I got so 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.440 used to the dead silence on the whereabouts that you know, 0:03:20.480 --> 0:03:23.480 I just gave up after a decade or so. Enter 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:27.839 friend of the show, Shauna, Are you here? 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:28.280 Hello? 0:03:28.520 --> 0:03:34.800 All right? So she provided probably this year's equivalent of 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:39.480 Manna from Heaven, in which she said, a mirror, your 0:03:39.520 --> 0:03:43.680 prayers have been answered. So let's fast forward to where 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:46.680 we are right now. Both of our guests I didn't 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:49.680 even know were friends with each other, and they also 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:54.520 happen to have overlapping journeys in life. Both in decades ago, 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.320 they were standout acts on a show called Star Search. 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.240 You know if you know the voice or if you 0:04:03.240 --> 0:04:05.920 know America Knight whatever it's you know, Star Search was 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:10.480 you know when that was our show and basically parlayed 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.800 their talents into at a very young age, into record 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:18.560 deal and hits and whatnot and yes, of course can 0:04:18.640 --> 0:04:22.080 you dance? Ain't gonna have step in? Symptoms of true love? 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:27.920 This house tend to kisses, Yes, I could name them all. 0:04:28.760 --> 0:04:31.960 I love your smile whatever. I've been a major, major, 0:04:32.600 --> 0:04:36.600 major fan of this is royalty of both these queens 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:39.040 for the longest we all have been. And for some reason, 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.960 you know, because they had their rise before the sort 0:04:44.000 --> 0:04:47.400 of scent of social media. There really wasn't mainstream outlets 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.480 to let us know them as people, even though we 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:52.919 occasionally seem on a soul train or b T you whatever. 0:04:53.480 --> 0:04:56.080 And even having despite the fact that I've worked with 0:04:56.120 --> 0:04:59.080 one of them, I've realized that until this very moment, 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:02.680 I've never met them. Yes, it's it's possible to be 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.400 on someone's record and not having met them anyway, it's 0:05:06.440 --> 0:05:10.080 taking me three decades to say, nice to meet you. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:17.640 Shanice Wilson and Tracy Spencer. Welcome to Quest of Supremes. Wow, 0:05:18.240 --> 0:05:25.440 So where the heck you been? First of all, how 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:27.520 are you guys today, how are we? 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:32.479 We are on on cloud nine. We're like floating. Yeah, 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:37.280 this is like we're excited. It just seems like unreal. 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.239 And emotional roller coaster. 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:41.560 Yeah. I keep saying I'm gonna cry. She's like, I'm 0:05:41.560 --> 0:05:42.080 gonna cry. 0:05:42.279 --> 0:05:44.760 Like y'all are fresh off of popular talk show. I 0:05:44.800 --> 0:05:46.440 know we can't say where you just came from, but like, 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:48.919 y'all just did a popular talk show, Like this is 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:51.159 really yeah. 0:05:51.360 --> 0:05:53.160 Yeah, it's a lot so. 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:54.599 A lot really fast. 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.080 Yeah, I'm just really excited. I've been looking for Tracy 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:02.800 for the past what how many years? Twenty maybe like 0:06:02.839 --> 0:06:06.799 twenty years. I tweeted a picture of us with Santa. 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.920 We were sitting on Santa Claus as a lap back 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:10.640 in the day. It took a picture with Santa Claus 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.440 and I posted that on my Twitter and I said, 0:06:13.600 --> 0:06:15.240 can anybody help me find Tracy? 0:06:15.360 --> 0:06:17.080 You too? 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:20.840 I said, I'm looking for Tracy Spencer and nobody could 0:06:20.880 --> 0:06:23.360 find her for like year. My kids were babies, they're 0:06:23.400 --> 0:06:26.599 they're pretty much grown now. And I went to a 0:06:26.640 --> 0:06:31.000 party with Shantemore's birthday party and Shawna was at the 0:06:31.040 --> 0:06:33.760 party and she said I found her. This was like 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:36.839 a few months ago, we found Tracy Spencer. 0:06:37.800 --> 0:06:38.680 Is there an extra? 0:06:39.839 --> 0:06:42.240 Shawna said, I found Tracy Spencer. I'm like, really, she's 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:45.240 on Instagram like she is, So that's how we. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:48.440 Reconnected following people on Instagram. 0:06:48.800 --> 0:06:50.880 She had this page. It didn't even look like it 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:53.800 would be her page. 0:06:54.760 --> 0:07:00.680 Were all right, So let me just give a little backstory, Shauna. 0:07:01.160 --> 0:07:03.760 So is it mengtel or Manga ta mangata? 0:07:04.120 --> 0:07:04.400 Okay? 0:07:05.240 --> 0:07:09.400 So you know super executive management? Like okay, So what 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:10.440 is your role in life? 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:10.560 Like? 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:13.880 I know that for years you've worked for Michael Jackson 0:07:14.080 --> 0:07:16.880 as his personal assistant during the Dangerous period, and you 0:07:16.920 --> 0:07:19.480 assisted us in getting Howard Hewitt on the show and whatnot. 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:21.880 So you know, you and I have been friends forever. 0:07:22.760 --> 0:07:26.360 You've been an actor, like you've been connected in acting 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.360 and whatnot. You've been in so many movies that we've 0:07:28.360 --> 0:07:31.080 seen that didn't even realize. So how did you know? 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:32.760 How did you find Tracy? 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:35.280 Well, when I was working with Michael Jackson, I actually 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.320 worked for his manager, Sandy Gallan. So I've been in 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:44.200 music management all my career and after leaving Michael's management company, 0:07:44.200 --> 0:07:47.320 I went to work for quadri Ellamine at Southpot Entertainment 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:51.120 and he said, I want you to work with Tracy Spencer. 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:54.800 And this was in nineteen ninety eight. So I was 0:07:54.840 --> 0:07:57.600 brought in to work specifically with Tracy on her last 0:07:57.640 --> 0:08:01.000 album on Capitol Records, called Tracey See, and I was 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:04.520 her day to day manager and you know, just doing 0:08:04.520 --> 0:08:07.720 her scheduling and all that kind of stuff. Fast forward 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:12.640 to now, Tracy reaches out to me on Instagram. I 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:15.160 didn't know why because I have been looking for her 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.080 too for decades. 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:20.360 Did you know that we were looking for you everybody? 0:08:21.120 --> 0:08:22.320 Why would you do that to us? 0:08:24.160 --> 0:08:24.920 I didn't do. 0:08:24.880 --> 0:08:30.680 It like to hurt anyone's feeling, but. 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:36.160 It also proves me that one kid disappeared. We want 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:42.160 to live off the grid and hang out with me. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:54.520 Daylight Secret Tracy Spencer. Okay, like, let's have it. Where 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:55.400 the hell have you been? 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:06.440 People going to be mad? 0:09:10.880 --> 0:09:13.920 She's absolutely right. There's gonna be a lot of very 0:09:13.960 --> 0:09:15.080 angry people after this. 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:18.480 Yeah, you are your appreciative, but please. 0:09:20.200 --> 0:09:22.120 We can stand here five or six times. 0:09:24.320 --> 0:09:26.920 Yeah, let's see. 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.880 After the Tracy album. Well, even before the Tracy album, 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:34.640 the Capitol was going through so many different changes, Like 0:09:34.679 --> 0:09:37.120 at one point they got rid of the Black Music 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:42.839 Department and kept me and wanted me to represent. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:46.800 Black radio radio. Yeah everybody. 0:09:46.920 --> 0:09:49.680 I mean it was literally like a ghost town on 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:54.120 like the eighth and ninth floor, which is where the 0:09:54.160 --> 0:09:55.040 Black Department was. 0:09:55.080 --> 0:09:56.920 So I remember I'd go down and be like, wow, 0:09:56.960 --> 0:09:59.360 the lights are out, like this is so weird. 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.920 And I was like seventeen eighteen years old then, And 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.439 so I ended up actually recording like two different albums, 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:11.480 one with Dallas Austin, one with Shakir from Queen Latifa's camp. 0:10:11.920 --> 0:10:13.160 I spent some time in New York. 0:10:13.679 --> 0:10:17.480 Both of those records got shelved, but I did notice 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:20.880 that some stuff has been leaked on YouTube and someone's 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:21.960 like selling. 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:25.280 A mixtape for like two g's. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.600 Of some some Tracy Spencer unreleased music. 0:10:28.920 --> 0:10:32.080 It's yeah, yeah, like you would have brought that too. 0:10:35.200 --> 0:10:37.160 And so when. 0:10:38.920 --> 0:10:43.240 When once I got with Quadri, you know, he was 0:10:43.280 --> 0:10:46.000 trying to reassure me, like stick it out, it's gonna 0:10:46.000 --> 0:10:50.280 be all good. Let's do another record. That's when Roy 0:10:50.360 --> 0:10:55.199 Lott was the president of Capital and he had mentioned 0:10:55.240 --> 0:10:57.680 Soul Shock and Carlin and said, I think they would 0:10:57.679 --> 0:11:00.960 be great to help you put this record together. So 0:11:01.040 --> 0:11:04.560 we la literally sat for months, like in the studio 0:11:04.760 --> 0:11:07.280 just creating and coming up with ideas, and they pretty 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:10.640 much did that entire album and helped me A and 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.440 R the record. So after the record, you know, you 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:19.400 go on tour. I s wasn't having any fun. It 0:11:19.440 --> 0:11:23.760 became I went from a point where I had a 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:27.640 lot of family support to now that I was getting older. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:32.040 I was now twenty one, My family wasn't traveling with me. 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:34.280 My dad was having some health issues so he couldn't 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:37.120 go on the road, and my siblings were all, you know, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.360 doing things in their own lives. So it was like 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:44.560 a big transition for me. And then you also have 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:47.600 a lot of uh, you meet a lot of interesting 0:11:47.679 --> 0:11:49.800 people who want to take advantage of you in the 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.800 industry as a female. Now they're like, oh, her dad's 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:57.280 not around, or her brother's not around or yeah, and 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:02.160 it got very uncomfortable to be very honest, and so, yeah, 0:12:02.200 --> 0:12:05.120 I wasn't having any fun. And I remember having a 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:09.320 conversation with my mom and I just said, I'm having anxiety. 0:12:09.360 --> 0:12:11.440 I'm not like having panic attacks, Like what am I 0:12:11.480 --> 0:12:11.800 going to do? 0:12:11.880 --> 0:12:13.600 And she was like, I always told you when you're 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.480 not having fun, get out for your mental health. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:18.559 Like she's like, come home. 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:22.600 So I went home for a little bit, being in 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.880 the country, home, playing with Iowa. 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:27.040 Oh oh wow, that's how you disappeared. 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:32.720 Yes, and I do agreed recently that i was now 0:12:32.880 --> 0:12:34.920 the number one place to go if you want to 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:35.760 live off the grid. 0:12:36.120 --> 0:12:40.280 Oh so, I'm just there's another fun fact that I 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:42.959 know about Iowa that I don't think is very appropriate. 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.840 Dementium right now, But this is the amount of black 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:52.080 women that I know from Iowa, all in the industry right, No, 0:12:52.320 --> 0:12:56.520 just in Iowa period, Robin Thedi Okay, So thus I 0:12:56.559 --> 0:13:00.960 know a comedian, a singer, and the we'll just say 0:13:01.000 --> 0:13:02.959 our actresses. 0:13:03.400 --> 0:13:06.640 I thought you were going to say that. The people like, what. 0:13:06.600 --> 0:13:09.720 Is what is it? What city in Iowa for starters? 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:13.240 What city in Iowa is this? And that's turning out 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:23.200 these artistic base women. Yeah, like I don't know, but 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:28.600 something about it's something about the state of Iowa that is, like, 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:36.960 I don't know, just turns out mysterious alluring women that 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:37.760 have a talent. 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:39.400 Somebody get them out of. 0:13:52.760 --> 0:13:53.959 Thank you, Thank you, Steve. 0:13:55.679 --> 0:14:00.599 What was it like growing up in Iowa? 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:03.559 Lots of corn I really just want to see where 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:04.120 he was gonna go. 0:14:04.480 --> 0:14:07.760 Seef, he's gonna get himself out of it. 0:14:10.120 --> 0:14:12.440 Yes, there's lots of corn. There is corn in my. 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:20.360 Backyard, literally lots of corn. My dad's side of the 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:23.720 family is from Canada on his mom's side, and then 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:27.440 his father was from Alabama. My mom's family's from Louisiana. 0:14:29.040 --> 0:14:31.160 How they kind of ended up together and me being 0:14:31.200 --> 0:14:35.760 born in Iowa was after my mom's h her parents 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:38.320 passed away. She was going to join the Air Force, 0:14:38.960 --> 0:14:41.040 but she had a brother who moved to Minneapolis, or 0:14:41.080 --> 0:14:45.000 not Minneapolis, but to Des Moines, Iowa, which is the capital, 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:46.920 and she was traveling. 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:48.000 She had. 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:52.640 Eight siblings, so she was traveling to go visit him, 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:55.960 and she decided, well, maybe I'm just gonna get into nursing. 0:14:56.000 --> 0:14:56.960 Maybe I'll moved to Iowa. 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:57.360 I don't know. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:15:00.200 She just didn't want to go back to Louisiana. My 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:03.440 dad ended up in a really small town called Marshalltown, Iowa, 0:15:04.400 --> 0:15:05.200 where there's like. 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.680 No people of color. Yeah, it was just literally his. 0:15:10.640 --> 0:15:14.600 Dad and then his mom being white. Yeah, they were 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:15.440 the talk of the town. 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:18.480 Yeah. 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:21.320 And so my dad had a band called the Cavaliers. 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:25.320 He's like performing doing one nighters around the state of 0:15:25.360 --> 0:15:30.520 Iowa and other cities in the Midwest, and he sees 0:15:30.520 --> 0:15:33.480 my mom in a club with her brother, and he 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.880 walks up to her and says, I don't know who 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:41.480 you are, but I'm gonna marry you. Basically, she never 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.040 went back to Louisiana. Six months later they got married 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.320 and they stayed in Iowa and she became a nurse. 0:15:47.720 --> 0:15:51.080 And that's how I ended up in Iowa. 0:15:51.120 --> 0:15:57.640 I see now, Miss Wilson. Now. One of my favorite 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:02.880 moments ever in the history of my years in watching 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:07.200 me our City and Hall Show, Oh Wow, was when 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:12.120 there was an audio tape of you. I believe you 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:13.920 had to have been under the age of two, but 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.480 you singing Jungle Bookie. 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:18.320 Yeah. 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:21.640 And to me, not much of a hoopla has been 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:24.120 made of the fact that someone not even one years 0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:29.160 old can harmonize get down, get down all like. So 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:32.320 I already know that you came out the womb singing, 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:33.880 So tell me about like where were you. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:37.680 Born and so yeah, I'm originally from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:43.040 yans yes, yes, And the audio you're talking about, I 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:47.240 was literally seven months I was seven months and there 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:49.520 was three songs I did on that tape. I did 0:16:49.600 --> 0:16:52.240 Jungle Boogie by Cool in the Game, tell Me Something 0:16:52.280 --> 0:16:55.000 Good about Chaka Khan and Benny and the Jets by 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:56.640 Elton John Wow. 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.120 And I don't even know the words of that song 0:16:58.200 --> 0:16:59.280 now no. 0:16:59.080 --> 0:17:01.760 One believes it, but we have it on cassette. And 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:04.320 I couldn't talk, but I could sing those melodies but 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.840 I couldn't talk. So yeah, But I'm from Pittsford, Pennsylvania. 0:17:08.280 --> 0:17:11.199 I come from a musical family. My mom sings. My 0:17:11.280 --> 0:17:16.159 dad is a guitarist, and my mom she was in 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:18.880 a singing group and she decided her and my aunt, 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.240 they had a group together, and they said, let's move 0:17:21.280 --> 0:17:23.320 to either California or New York because they wanted to 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:27.320 pursue their singing careers. So they decided to move to LA. 0:17:27.760 --> 0:17:31.120 We got on the Greyhound bus and when we got 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:34.359 to LA, I was like eight years old, and I said, 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:36.119 but I want to sing too. I want to do 0:17:36.160 --> 0:17:39.280 it too. So they found me a commercial agent. I 0:17:39.320 --> 0:17:41.639 went on my first audition and I booked a Kentucky 0:17:41.640 --> 0:17:45.119 Fried Chicken commercial with Ella Fitzgerald. At eight years old, 0:17:46.440 --> 0:17:48.080 I scattered with her at eight years old. 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:50.720 I know that commercial that was me. 0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:55.200 Yeah, so that's where it all began. When I got 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.800 off the Greyhound bus. Wanda from the Emotions, the Legendary 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.879 Emotions picked me up from the Greyhound station. So she 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:04.760 was the first person that I met when I got 0:18:04.760 --> 0:18:07.600 off the bus, and I remember looking around. I was 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:09.560 in Hollywood, and I just I was like, where are 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.720 the stars? I wanna see the stars. Where's Mike. I 0:18:11.800 --> 0:18:15.600 was like, where's Michael Jackson? And then it's like it's 0:18:15.640 --> 0:18:18.240 deep because words are powerful because I kept speaking that 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:19.760 I wanted to meet Michael Jackson. I wanted to meet 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.960 Michael Jackson. And then UH when I I did Star 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:25.320 Search one Star Search, NA when I did a musical 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.120 after Star Search called Get Happy, and John McClain, who 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:32.320 was now over Michael Jackson's estate right heard me singing 0:18:32.560 --> 0:18:34.840 uh in the musical and signed me to and in 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:38.720 Records when I was eleven years old, and oh, she 0:18:38.760 --> 0:18:43.639 found the commercial so so so it's so deep because 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.400 I was eight years old saying I wanted to meet 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.200 Michael Jackson, and then I did eleven the guy who 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:51.760 worked with Michael Jackson signed me to a and m 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.680 and I finally and then I finally got to meet 0:18:53.680 --> 0:18:54.320 Michael Jackson. 0:18:54.400 --> 0:18:56.240 I felt you were gonna go in deep cut and 0:18:56.240 --> 0:18:59.440 be like later I married Michael Jackson. No, no, no. 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.000 I got to sing on three of his records, some 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:02.880 backgrounds on three. 0:19:03.119 --> 0:19:20.280 No, I'm talking about somewhere. Jimmy Champs just hit me off, like, wait, 0:19:20.359 --> 0:19:24.280 who how did you pull that off? 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:30.399 Flex? He did play Michael. But I just want to 0:19:30.400 --> 0:19:33.720 say this, when Flex auditioned for that, As a matter 0:19:33.720 --> 0:19:35.600 of fact, he even audition. He just had a meeting 0:19:36.359 --> 0:19:40.000 and they told him that it was going to be authorized, 0:19:40.000 --> 0:19:42.600 like Michael was going to be involved, and the music 0:19:42.680 --> 0:19:44.360 was going to be in the movie. Like and then 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:48.160 once he got the part, everything changed. They said it's unauthorized. 0:19:50.320 --> 0:19:50.480 Yeah. 0:19:50.800 --> 0:19:54.959 The makeup was terrible, the hair was terrible. Like, I 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:57.800 just feel so bad because who would turn that down? 0:19:57.840 --> 0:19:57.960 You know? 0:19:59.400 --> 0:20:05.000 Like ah, I. 0:20:04.960 --> 0:20:10.040 Thought like Flex did a great job. The movie wasn't great. 0:20:10.160 --> 0:20:12.959 The hair and makeup and all that wasn't good, but 0:20:13.080 --> 0:20:15.439 Flex put his heart and soul into it. So I 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:16.879 gotta give a shout out to my baby. 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:17.240 Flex. 0:20:19.840 --> 0:20:21.680 Do you remember do you remember the songs that you sang? 0:20:21.720 --> 0:20:22.840 Backron Michael. 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:31.119 Yeah, keep the Faith. It's a song that And after 0:20:31.160 --> 0:20:33.560 he passed behind the mask, I got to add live 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:34.760 with him at the end of that, and I did 0:20:34.800 --> 0:20:37.840 backgrounds on top of that and then you'll be there. 0:20:38.080 --> 0:20:38.879 Okay, gotcha. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:46.760 What's up? Do you remember your first musical memory, like 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:50.159 in terms of you having a talent, or what's your 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:51.800 first musical memory in life? 0:20:52.080 --> 0:20:57.040 My dad was he had two bars that he opened 0:20:57.119 --> 0:20:59.160 in Waterloo, Iowa. 0:21:00.520 --> 0:21:01.639 They were jazz bars. 0:21:02.119 --> 0:21:04.040 Well, he would let me come in and help clean up, 0:21:04.080 --> 0:21:07.240 like in the mornings, and he would play music and 0:21:07.240 --> 0:21:10.680 then I would sing along and he was just kind 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.040 of like, well, that's interesting. So he started bringing records 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:18.280 home and he bought me a record player and the 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:22.040 first record that he played for me was Tina Marie 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.840 and I just start listening to it, and then I 0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.879 was trying to memorize all her lyrics. And then he 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.000 gave me Diying a ross and I would memorize him. 0:21:31.240 --> 0:21:33.000 But the funny thing is I didn't want anyone to 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.480 come downstairs and like watch me. So my mom, my 0:21:37.040 --> 0:21:39.439 sister and everybody and my dad they would sit on 0:21:39.480 --> 0:21:42.119 the stairs and they would listen to me. 0:21:43.080 --> 0:21:46.359 They would be thinking like I can't look at me, 0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:49.520 and I would just be down there in front of 0:21:49.560 --> 0:21:52.400 the mirror, just like dancing and singing and pretending I 0:21:52.440 --> 0:21:54.040 was dying a ross at Tina Marie. 0:21:54.080 --> 0:21:57.560 And my dad was like, wow, like she really likes 0:21:57.560 --> 0:22:00.160 to sing. I much rather be in the house singing 0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:03.240 and listening to records and being outside playing. 0:22:02.960 --> 0:22:07.919 With So you're you're in the reluctant hero kind of 0:22:08.760 --> 0:22:09.920 disappeared for thirty years. 0:22:09.920 --> 0:22:10.320 What do you mean? 0:22:10.480 --> 0:22:18.600 Yeah, she's very adamant about and that is the energy 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.200 I respect. 0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:25.399 Like you have a kid. I'm just letting you know, like. 0:22:23.760 --> 0:22:25.720 Oh wait, so now what's your sign cancer? 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:26.840 Okay? Cap? 0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:29.119 Yeah, saying yeah, I'm with it. 0:22:29.240 --> 0:22:32.040 Yeah that'scy Spencer. Do we know that that for a 0:22:32.119 --> 0:22:43.600 fact right now? That happened once with you remember Reddad 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:47.520 king Finn was like, uh capping people? Do you not remember? 0:22:47.680 --> 0:22:50.680 Like this guy? Why would he? Why why he would 0:22:50.720 --> 0:22:52.679 choose red Ad Kingpin of anybody? 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.640 Like because who else is going to do that? 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.080 Right open? Mark? 0:22:57.119 --> 0:22:57.199 No? 0:22:57.320 --> 0:23:00.199 But he, like me, he would like go to night 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:02.679 clubs and from five thousand dollars like do do the 0:23:02.760 --> 0:23:05.800 right thing? And we don't have a plan B and whatever, 0:23:05.920 --> 0:23:08.840 and then like two years later he finally got caught. 0:23:09.560 --> 0:23:12.200 Wow, thank god for social media. 0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:17.120 Way fly. Now that is random. At what point? Well, 0:23:17.119 --> 0:23:20.280 I guess because you two are such at a young age. 0:23:21.320 --> 0:23:26.359 Can I assume that like the decision to put you 0:23:26.560 --> 0:23:30.360 or the baby steps into putting you into show business 0:23:30.920 --> 0:23:33.239 was made for you? Or was it? Like was there 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:35.679 ever talk like would you like to do this for 0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:36.399 real or whatever? 0:23:36.640 --> 0:23:38.440 Or like, yeah, my. 0:23:38.520 --> 0:23:42.119 Dad he was always asking me because my one of 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.240 my brothers, the one who actually does some some vocals 0:23:45.280 --> 0:23:48.600 on Tender Kisses and he co wrote it, and. 0:23:47.960 --> 0:23:51.000