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Speaker 1: Hi, everybody, and welcome to Packers Unscripted. Happy New Year

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Speaker 1: to all of you out there. From Packers dot com.

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Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford and he is Wes Hodkowitz. We're

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Speaker 1: coming to hear from our studios at lambeau Field to

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Speaker 1: talk about the conclusion of the Packers two thousand and

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Speaker 1: seventeen season. It ends with a thirty five to eleven

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Speaker 1: loss at Ford Field in Detroit and West I know

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Speaker 1: a lot of reports out there swirling around about possible

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Speaker 1: changes going on within the organization, and let's just say

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Speaker 1: that after the game, Mike McCarthy did not address anything

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Speaker 1: about the future of what's going on with the coaching

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Speaker 1: staff or anything else in the football operation. So it's

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Speaker 1: not our place to discuss the speculation. We will wait

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Speaker 1: until we hear from the head coach, which is going

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Speaker 1: to be presumed be within a couple of days sometime

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Speaker 1: later this week. We will hear from him on what

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Speaker 1: is going on or not going on. So with that,

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Speaker 1: the final game of the regular season um not the

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Speaker 1: way the Packers wanted to go out, Certainly, thirty five

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Speaker 1: to eleven a rough ball game. Brett Hunley didn't finish

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Speaker 1: his stint as the starting quarterbacks. Certainly the way he

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Speaker 1: wanted to. A couple of early turnovers really kind of

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Speaker 1: blew the Packers chance to to make this a game

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Speaker 1: and and and stay competitive in it. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 1: the thing that stands up the most when you really

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Speaker 1: look at the stat sheet once this thing was over

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Speaker 1: was the four turnovers four takeaways for the Lions and

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Speaker 1: zero for the Packers. I mean that that was gonna

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Speaker 1: tilt this ball game so significantly. Mike McCarthy said afterwards

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Speaker 1: he actually was relatively happy with the way the Packers

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Speaker 1: started this football game. They had made the decision earlier

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Speaker 1: in the week that they were going to try to

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Speaker 1: go for that surprise on side kick if they won

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Speaker 1: the coin toss, and there you go, Mason Crosby doing

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Speaker 1: one of the things that he does best. Germaine Whitehead

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Speaker 1: makes a tremendous play on the ball to get the

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Speaker 1: Packers the football at the fifth forty nine yard line,

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Speaker 1: as they've done basically every single time Hunley has been

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Speaker 1: under center. They drove on that first series, and then

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Speaker 1: you know, the past a little bit behind. Jamal Williams

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Speaker 1: the lines were able to get the ball there, but

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Speaker 1: Packers actually end up forcing I believe the three out defensively,

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Speaker 1: Green Bay gets the ball back, actually ends up kicking

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Speaker 1: the field goal to go up three to nothing. So

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Speaker 1: things were kind of working in their favor, but slowly,

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Speaker 1: between the drops and the mistackles and everything kind of

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Speaker 1: culminating together, the game slowly got away from them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: when you turn the ball over twice in the red

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Speaker 1: zone with scoring opportunities there in the first quarter in

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Speaker 1: a game that you know you're playing uphill from the beginning,

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Speaker 1: you've got You've got some starters on the field. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying this was an entire, you know, taxi squad

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Speaker 1: type of lineup, but the Packers were using a lot

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Speaker 1: the defensive side. I would say, we're rotating in and out,

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Speaker 1: maybe more often than they would in a usual regular

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Speaker 1: season game. Sit suation. So you turn the ball over

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Speaker 1: early in the ball game, the defense does start out

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Speaker 1: to a field goal there, but then the Lions big

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Speaker 1: yard touchdown to Kenny Golladay. They later on they get

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Speaker 1: for Stafford against the zone defense, and the Packers offense

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Speaker 1: after those early promising drives just never really got going

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Speaker 1: game to Randall Cobb that that you know, gave you

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Speaker 1: maybe some hope that the Packers could close the gap

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Speaker 1: a little bit, but it just didn't happen. Yeah, pretty

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Speaker 1: much the same drill in this game, and it's been

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Speaker 1: sort of the downfall of the Packers in the second

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Speaker 1: half of the season. Offensively. Got out to a relatively

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Speaker 1: the film. I don't remember him working as a jammer

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Speaker 1: the last few games. That's I think another thing, with

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Speaker 1: all the injuries that happened, Josh Hawkins, as you said,

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Speaker 1: ends up rotating with Devon House at cornerback. Lindsay Pitkins

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Speaker 1: of vote excuse me, Oklahoma State. So yeah, it just

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Speaker 1: it was I think there was just there were some

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Speaker 1: guys that stepped up. I mean you look at you know,

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Speaker 1: final score UH reads thirty five to eleven, the Packers

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Speaker 1: finished the season at seven and nine UM. As we

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Speaker 1: the second sub five hundred record in Mike McCarthy's twelve

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Speaker 1: picking four in the first round of the NFL Draft.

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Speaker 1: Just to explain a little bit, they tied with the

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Speaker 1: the thirteenth and fourteenth positions. UH. Strength of schedule is

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Speaker 1: the first tiebreaker is actually dead even between the two,

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Speaker 1: so they go a little deeper into the tiebreakers and

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Speaker 1: They both played five games against those four opponents. Because

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Speaker 1: The upshot of all that explanation, West is that the

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Speaker 1: Rodger at number nine overall to be fourteen. The the

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Speaker 1: so uncharted waters, but a tremendous opportunity for this organization.

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Speaker 1: It is. And as you said, Mike, I mean you

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Speaker 1: look at two thousand nine, that was the last time

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Speaker 1: this is the silver lining, the consolation, if you want

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Speaker 1: whether it's gonna be offense defense. Whatever they decided to

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Speaker 1: do with it. There is an opportunity, not only in

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Speaker 1: They did it with haklind Dixson two thousand fourteen, picking one,

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Speaker 1: what they can do with this one, yeah, And we'll

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Speaker 1: have plenty of time to talk about that when we

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Speaker 1: back with more and Packers Unscripted right after this Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to Packers Unscripted. Mike Spofford in this chair, Wes

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Speaker 1: Hodkowitz in that one, and West some big pieces of

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Speaker 1: news we haven't had a chance to discuss yet because

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Speaker 1: they occurred after our final show of the previous week,

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Speaker 1: in the season finale. And that is two key pieces

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Speaker 1: to this Green Bay Packers offense re signing signing contract

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Speaker 1: extensions as they were in the final. Both players are

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Speaker 1: in the final year of their rookie deals, and I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about receiver Davante Adams and center Corey Linsley. I

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Speaker 1: think it was pretty obvious that these were the two

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Speaker 1: even approaching that March deadline of free agency. Well, the

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Speaker 1: nice thing is with getting the deals done with both

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Speaker 1: Adams and Lensley. The way that works as You're able

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Speaker 1: it also rewards both Davante Adams and Corey Linsley for

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Speaker 1: seeing what they can accomplish. Um Lindsley had the offseason

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Speaker 1: the leg injuries he's been suffering. He ends up playing

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Speaker 1: every offensive snap for the Packers this season. Then Davante Adams,

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Speaker 1: he had that big breakout year a year ago, but

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Speaker 1: people were still kind of wondering can he do it again?

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Speaker 1: Not only did he do it, he did it with

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Speaker 1: establish that momentum, that rhythm and timing with Hunley as well.

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Speaker 1: And I think when you just look at his physical gifts, Mike,

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Speaker 1: the fact that he just turned twenty five on Christmas Eve, Uh,

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Speaker 1: freed It's not only at the receiver position but in

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Speaker 1: of them locked up now, I think that says a

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Speaker 1: ability to kind of continue to grow within this offense. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I think what you said about Davante Adams and

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Speaker 1: what he did with Brett Hunley, if there were any

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Speaker 1: questions about him, you know, building and repeating what he

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Speaker 1: did in a in a breakout. He did it with

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Speaker 1: Brett Hunley at quarterback. Because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the Packers one three games with Huney at quarterback against Chicago,

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Speaker 1: Tampa Bay, and Cleveland, and Davantae Adams had a pretty

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Speaker 1: significant role in all of those victories. He really was

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Speaker 1: Brett Hunley's go to guy, and and when the offense

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Speaker 1: It's going to be exciting to watch. Yeah, Atlanta gets

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Speaker 1: to watch out for. But with that, we'll call it

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Speaker 1: a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure

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