WEBVTT - Pool Party 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.119 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Okay, you guys, 0:00:10.360 --> 0:00:14.720 I am super excited because this is the episode Welcome 0:00:14.760 --> 0:00:18.920 to first of all, Welcome to nine O one, omg, hi, 0:00:20.440 --> 0:00:23.799 it's us. This is the episode that we've been telling 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:28.639 Jen about for three seasons now. We've been like, yes, 0:00:28.880 --> 0:00:34.120 is it? This is wow iconic? This is an iconic 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:38.239 is the moment? In my opinion? You guys kidding me 0:00:38.320 --> 0:00:42.400 right now? I know this episode left me feeling let down. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:51.800 Oh what Okay, I there's certain storylines that I don't 0:00:51.840 --> 0:00:57.080 I'm like, okay, but I mean this is the iconic moment. 0:00:58.040 --> 0:01:02.960 It's the threesome of them all ye at the very end, 0:01:03.000 --> 0:01:05.520 like it's so we'll get there, but from the pool, 0:01:05.880 --> 0:01:08.360 from the pool to the door knock to the w 0:01:10.360 --> 0:01:15.679 from there on, you're just like, I'm in Well, why 0:01:15.680 --> 0:01:18.440 don't we just talk about it? Then? Season three, episode nineteen, 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:24.200 Back in the High Life Again, aired on January. Synopsis. 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:27.199 Dylan's father, jack is finally released from prison to enjoy 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:30.080 his son's company and sets eyes on his trust fund. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:32.640 David doesn't know where he will live after his father 0:01:32.720 --> 0:01:36.560 moves out of Jackie's house. Meanwhile, Brandon's addiction to gambling 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.240 intensifies when he starts using his own college money. Donna 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:46.640 helped Andrea with a makeover. Drum roll, please that was 0:01:46.680 --> 0:01:48.840 my drum roll? Give me a drum roll. I don't 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:56.200 know how. Second, Dylan finally chooses Kelly over Brenda. She 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.600 is furious when they break the news to Brenda about 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:06.640 their summer and written by Steve Wasserman and Jessica Klein chills. 0:02:07.440 --> 0:02:10.880 I don't know if they needed to tell her. I 0:02:10.919 --> 0:02:15.920 don't know either, But in all honesty, you were having 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.320 moments where you were like, I don't feel like what 0:02:18.400 --> 0:02:21.480 Kelly's doing is right. She does the right thing, she 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.600 does the noble thing here, what do you mean telling 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:30.080 the truth? Telling the truth sometimes the truth hurts. So 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:34.240 it's like, I'm all for Kelly and Dylan. I love them. Really, 0:02:34.280 --> 0:02:38.200 nobody knew. I don't know if they needed to tell her, 0:02:38.520 --> 0:02:41.440 they needed to tell her that they were together. I 0:02:41.520 --> 0:02:44.520 don't know that it did anything but hurt her to 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:47.280 tell them about the summer, to tell her about the summer. 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:52.239 But imagine, like, let's fast forward, they stay friends for years, 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:54.720 Dylan and Kelly get married. I'm just saying what if 0:02:55.520 --> 0:02:58.480 and then like thirty years from then, like all of 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:00.239 a sudden, they're like, Wow, we have this deep, dark 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:03.040 secret we never told our friend, Like how do you 0:03:03.080 --> 0:03:07.160 live with that? Like it's a big one. Mm hmm, yeah, 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:09.840 I don't know either. I might be with Amy that 0:03:09.960 --> 0:03:13.160 like why tell her the nitty gritty details of it? 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:20.320 All right? So it's like why why you guys? I 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.280 am shocked kick someone while they're down. You know, I 0:03:23.320 --> 0:03:25.560 believe in the truth. I believe in telling the truth. 0:03:25.680 --> 0:03:31.200 I cannot lie. But in this situation, I don't know. 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.960 I just because of the way it hurt her so badly. 0:03:35.000 --> 0:03:36.800 Of course it was going to hurt her, but like 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:42.160 they didn't sleep together that that that they're saying, cut 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:43.920 and dry, I didn't have and they told her that. 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:48.960 But there's a shot of friendship too. There's a shot 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:51.720 at friendship if they didn't tell her that last part. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:58.920 You think, m hmm. Maybe maybe because the girls were like, 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:02.720 I know, just maybe this, we'll do this together and 0:04:02.720 --> 0:04:05.240 he'll decide between the two of us. Like for me, 0:04:05.360 --> 0:04:08.640 the whole I missed that in the beginning of the episode, 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:14.520 like I the lead up to um Dylan, the party, 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.960 the pool scene there, I was missing something for me, 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:20.279 Like I missed the build up. I missed like the 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.279 girls kind of having what they've had for the past 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:27.880 few episodes of that, like camaraderie and friendship and we're 0:04:27.880 --> 0:04:30.279 going to get through this together. Whatever happens happens, Like 0:04:30.279 --> 0:04:31.839 I didn't get that in the beginning of this episode, 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:33.760 and I really wanted that to set it up a 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:37.640 little bit better. Did you think it was so weird 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:40.360 when Kelly says to Dylan, did you pick me because 0:04:40.360 --> 0:04:43.960 I came to the party And he said maybe, uh yeah, 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:47.320 but you're jumping ahead. But she does that all the time. 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:48.880 I know, I know. I just want to get to 0:04:48.920 --> 0:04:53.000 that scene onward anyway, forgetting keep going. I want to 0:04:53.000 --> 0:04:55.440 know how you both are feeling, like really feeling about 0:04:55.520 --> 0:05:00.040 this episode. Yeah, I just felt like it was I 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:04.480 felt let down. I felt like which which parts the 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:06.840 lead up? I felt let down by the lead up 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.440 and then like and then the pool seemed a dialogue 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:11.799 in the pool seemed just exactly what Amy's talking about, 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:16.400 Like there was no decision before Kelly gets in the 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:21.239 pool with him, and it just felt like convenient and 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.200 like default, like a choice by I don't know. It 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.440 just didn't feel like I wanted it to feel for 0:05:27.480 --> 0:05:31.880 some reason. And then yeah that he said maybe he's 0:05:31.880 --> 0:05:37.200 such a jerk sometimes Yeah gosh, but I loved like 0:05:37.440 --> 0:05:39.600 I'm not gonna lie like I just like as a girl, 0:05:39.600 --> 0:05:42.760 I was like, oh my gosh, when you know, I 0:05:42.839 --> 0:05:45.400 don't say if you don't mean it, I mean it right, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:47.440 like you're in trouble and any dunks here and just 0:05:47.520 --> 0:05:49.440 like that was so beautiful and your hair went back 0:05:49.480 --> 0:05:52.800 so perfect as you popped out, and I was like, oh, 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:55.720 this feels like splash. You were like a mermaid and 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:59.279 like um, and then I don't know, I just love 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.520 your read on that when you're like you're in trouble, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:04.960 because I know that side of you so well, because 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.320 that is a little side of you, a little flirty, 0:06:07.400 --> 0:06:10.919 like a little girl, like kind of said. When I 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:13.640 heard that, I was like, I don't know, just yeah, 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:17.719 that's a really cute, charming, iconic scene. In my mind, 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.680 I just remember him picking Kelly more clearly, like when 0:06:21.760 --> 0:06:24.120 he said that, I was shocked. I was like, wait 0:06:24.839 --> 0:06:28.200 that happens like that. Yeah, it felt like it was 0:06:28.240 --> 0:06:34.480 like wow, like do we think on to say I 0:06:34.520 --> 0:06:37.479 want you. I've always want to eat you. I changed you, 0:06:37.560 --> 0:06:41.640 Like he's clearly pointing out, like I wanted more out 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.960 of that moment. I'm not gonna lie. I wanted more 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:48.960 from Dylan right there. Okay, well there you go, right there. 0:06:49.000 --> 0:06:53.960 It's Dylan, though, Yeah, it is like he's not capable 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:56.520 of giving more. If Brenda went to the party, would 0:06:56.520 --> 0:06:59.040 things be different? Do you think if if Brenda went 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:00.919 to the party, it would have been different? Yeah, because 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:02.520 Brenda would have been there, and they wouldn't have been 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.520 in the pool. He wouldn't. That wouldn't a moment, would 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.960 have never happened. I think it would have prolonged it 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.000 a bit. But I think this was inevitable. This was 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:14.960 the way you think he went into the party and 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:21.880 the pool already already decided. So I I mean, well, 0:07:21.920 --> 0:07:23.320 I guess I have to go with that in my 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:25.640 heart because I want to believe like this is the 0:07:25.760 --> 0:07:28.600 right thing and like he's being honest and it's not 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.560 just like he's not just a guy that's like, oh 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.240 this convenient, cool, I'll go with blonde, she's here like 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:38.360 that breaks my heart, Like and it's Dylan, you know, 0:07:38.440 --> 0:07:40.600 the lines blur for us so for me, I guess 0:07:40.600 --> 0:07:42.280 I stick up because I'm like, it's not just Dylan, 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:48.080 it's Luke. Like he would never do that. So it's like, ah, um, no, 0:07:48.280 --> 0:07:52.760 I think in his heart it's Kelly. We know it's Kelly. 0:07:52.800 --> 0:07:56.280 He didn't want to be with Brenda anymore. Even when 0:07:56.280 --> 0:08:00.680 you had a summer fling. He really didn't write, you know, 0:08:01.200 --> 0:08:04.640 And I think he it's a hard time, like deciding, 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.800 but I don't. I think he had decided already. He 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:10.600 decided that summer. He probably decided when he was in 0:08:10.680 --> 0:08:14.200 seventh grade. Like I want to believe you were always 0:08:14.440 --> 0:08:16.240 in the back of his mind. And don't you think 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:19.320 it's significant that she does go? She is the one 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.720 that's there for him, Like, if we're really going to 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:25.240 dig into it, it's like she was there for him, 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:29.400 but Brenda couldn't because Jim wouldn't let her go. Okay, 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:34.800 Brenda has defied Jim so many times. She went to Mexico, 0:08:34.880 --> 0:08:38.000 she went, she does things all the time, so like 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.880 for this, this is the time that stops her because 0:08:40.880 --> 0:08:45.120 he says, no, I didn't remember that for a moment, 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:46.640 and I was like, oh, she's gonna sneak out, like 0:08:46.679 --> 0:08:49.559 Brenda always does, like and then when she went back 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:52.160 up the stairs after talking to Brandon, and I was like, oh, really, 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:55.720 she's not leaving me. I think she Here's here's what 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:59.120 I think. I don't know that she cared about going 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:02.440 to the party or not or supporting Dylan. It's like 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.640 she just wanted to go because she knew if she 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:08.600 didn't that that she was going to lose. We're gonna 0:09:08.600 --> 0:09:11.280 get slammed by brand of fans. But I agree with you, 0:09:11.360 --> 0:09:14.800 but that's true. I agree with you. She wanted to go, 0:09:15.040 --> 0:09:17.520 not to support him and to be there for him, 0:09:17.800 --> 0:09:20.680 but that's why she was like so talking to Brandon 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.840 about it, like it was more about him picking Kelly 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:28.559 talk about the she's worried about Dylan and the finances 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:30.520 and the dad and that he's going to take the 0:09:30.800 --> 0:09:32.800 like what about that part? Do you do? You think 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.080 that's true too? And and that Dylan needs friends, she 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:39.040 says to Kelly at school, Like, I'm not saying she 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.880 doesn't care about him, but it's understandable. She's a teenage girl. 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:44.920 She's going to go with her emotions over like the 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:47.800 it happens, Like I don't fault her for it. But 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:52.480 in the moment, I think she was jealous and was like, oh, yikes, 0:09:52.679 --> 0:09:55.560 I should get myself there. There might be a little 0:09:55.559 --> 0:10:00.280 bit more pick me, pick me, rather than I need 0:10:00.320 --> 0:10:04.679 to be with him because it's true love. And I 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.240 did love that in the midst of everything going on 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:11.079 with Kelly, when Dylan calls and talk to her about it. 0:10:11.360 --> 0:10:13.760 I love that you immediately said yes, like you didn't 0:10:13.800 --> 0:10:17.000 even hesitate with everything you have going on, Like I 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:21.040 feel like, I don't know. That made me think, like 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:24.720 that's how much she cares about him. Jack McCay is 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.160 such an asshole. Oh my god, he's so sexy though 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:33.360 he really is, but he's doing he's he's got plans 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:36.560 to take the trust fund money back and use it 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:41.160 for himself. That is wrong. As Jim says, it's a 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:47.680 major bad guy. Yeah, he's a major bad guy. He 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:52.320 could be a major bad guy. That is so that's 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.000 it's rough. Like in this episode, you really feel for 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.360 Dylan in so many ways. Do you think that he's 0:10:59.360 --> 0:11:03.280 got this ass of a dad, poor guy, he's just 0:11:03.320 --> 0:11:06.200 getting jerked around and the only thing he has now 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:10.480 is this is Kelly, this new relationship, and and that 0:11:10.640 --> 0:11:12.840 at the end, you're like, wait, what's going to happen? 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:16.439 It's they don't like it's not like, yeah, they're running 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:18.559 off into the sunset together and they're so happy in 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.600 this moment. That's also too was a letdown for me 0:11:21.920 --> 0:11:25.520 that the moment was like squished, like they didn't get 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:28.920 to be happy about being together. I didn't feel like 0:11:30.440 --> 0:11:33.560 I didn't see enough of that. Can you imagine being 0:11:33.559 --> 0:11:37.720 Brenda and those two come to the door. I felt 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.400 so bad for her. I just watching it, her little 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.480 just her a little face, and the way she answered 0:11:44.520 --> 0:11:46.520 the door, and the way she went over and got 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.360 her jacket and then she was like, okay, let's go, 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:54.600 and just she knew she knew it was coming, and 0:11:54.679 --> 0:11:57.120 she was but she had to be brave and go, 0:11:57.440 --> 0:12:01.440 and I just my heart was aching for her. They 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:03.480 do jump a little bit from the door, and then 0:12:03.520 --> 0:12:06.000 all of a sudden they're walking What what do you 0:12:06.040 --> 0:12:09.880 think the dialogue was on the way there? Mm hmm, 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.760 like small talk because no, they they cut to the 0:12:14.800 --> 0:12:20.000 scene and she's coming in hot. They've already told her, yeah, 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.400 just hadn't told her about the summer fleeing yet. That's 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.200 well that said, then I wish we would have seen that. Yeah, 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.840 like that kind of major to be like, I don't know. 0:12:32.920 --> 0:12:34.480 I felt bad too. I was like, they're doing the 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:36.679 right thing, They're doing the right thing. Well, Dylan's like, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:38.920 let's tell her in the middle of school, like her 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:42.160 next class. I was like, oh my gosh, poor thing. 0:12:42.240 --> 0:12:50.000 Imagine Brenda, why are you crying in Mandarin class? What 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:56.080 language does she take? Intense? I would have been upset, 0:12:56.120 --> 0:13:00.320 I guess if that was to be me. If that 0:13:00.480 --> 0:13:04.679 was me, I feel like I would have wanted want 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:06.240 of them to tell me, like it's just too much 0:13:06.240 --> 0:13:09.760 all at once, both of them, so I don't have 0:13:09.800 --> 0:13:11.400 to they don't have to see me crying or something 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.760 with you Tori, yes, going to the door and like 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:19.800 being the couple and then being like sorry, you're out. 0:13:20.520 --> 0:13:23.559 And even in that conversation, Dylan was kind of a 0:13:23.640 --> 0:13:27.079 jerk to her there. He was so insensitive to her 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:32.080 feelings or anyone's feelings in that moment. But Dylan's a 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:34.719 little insensitive. He should have told her alone. But he's 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.199 a product of you know, yeah, he should have told 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:40.560 her alone. I was just going to ask you, guys, 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:43.560 should what would have been better for Brenda if Dylan 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:48.480 told her or Kelly told her Dyl because it was 0:13:48.600 --> 0:13:51.080 his choice, let him do some of the heavy lifting 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:55.880 for a hot second, like let him deal with the consequences, 0:13:55.880 --> 0:13:59.559 like face to face, straight on, no hiding by anybody else. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.440 I let he would have blurted it out at the 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.960 lockers or something like. He wouldn't have handled it right 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:20.400 if he was Lowe. I love Dylan, but I do 0:14:20.600 --> 0:14:23.760 not care for the pick me, pick me. It reminds 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.440 me of like The Bachelor, Just pick me, pick me 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.640 all everybody all about this one dude. I love him, 0:14:30.640 --> 0:14:34.200 He's worth it, but like, yeah, that part is a 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:40.120 little yucky. Mm hmmm what I've been saying people, But 0:14:40.200 --> 0:14:43.280 it's not untrue what happens. I mean I had things 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:48.040 like that in high school. You had to pick Yeah, 0:14:48.240 --> 0:14:50.080 I remember, I told you I was like dating this 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:53.240 guy in high school, Like I went to all girls school. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.480 He was at our brothers school, which is now they've 0:14:55.560 --> 0:14:58.240 merged in it's Harvard Westlake, but at the time it 0:14:58.320 --> 0:15:01.240 was all girls and that there was like the hottest guy. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.600 He was a surfer and he literally would like go 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:05.800 through all of us and like he would go out 0:15:05.800 --> 0:15:07.840 with you one week and like he also took he 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.040 took me on one day and went to get tacos 0:15:10.080 --> 0:15:12.280 and I stood there like nervous because he drove already 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.040 and then he like bought himself a taco and then 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:20.000 he's like, are you gonna get anything paid for? And 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:22.640 bought it and came and like you're gonna go get anything? 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:24.800 And I was like, oh, this isn't right, um, And 0:15:24.840 --> 0:15:27.840 all I did was kiss him. But yeah, you wait 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:33.240 next week you kissed him after the taco? I did 0:15:33.640 --> 0:15:38.480 you dreamy? Did he have taco? I don't remember, Like 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.640 he had a car, and like you know, I I 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.600 think I was fifteen, he was sixteen, Like I didn't 0:15:43.600 --> 0:15:46.360 have my license yet. And he was like literally the 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.480 coolest guy. And he took me to watch him surf 0:15:48.560 --> 0:15:52.680 one day, like he was all about himself. Um. And 0:15:52.720 --> 0:15:54.600 he lived in and he lived in the Palisades by 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:56.360 the way and had parties for me, that's where my 0:15:56.440 --> 0:15:59.480 dad got that. Um. But Dylan does behave as a 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:05.560 high schoo old boy would behave like a forty year 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:10.240 old dude handling this right. But that's when the next weekend, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:12.760 I was sick, so I couldn't go to the party 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:16.640 in the Palisades and my best friend went and she 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.480 told me in science class on Monday that she kissed 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:23.000 him and he liked her now and it was literally 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:27.360 pick me. Oh my god, it happens you guys high school. 0:16:28.400 --> 0:16:32.320 Remember back in the day when when when it was 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:37.240 you guys just kissed and then that was it. Like, 0:16:37.640 --> 0:16:41.280 I feel like things have gotten so much more, much 0:16:41.320 --> 0:16:44.320 more progressive now when it's not just a kiss anymore, 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.320 when a guy's like makes a move on a girl, 0:16:46.520 --> 0:16:49.440 it's all. I feel like it's going back to the 0:16:49.520 --> 0:16:52.640 just kiss. As we're older, we have but for us 0:16:53.120 --> 0:16:59.720 are for the kids more like a high five? Do 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:03.760 you want hug? I don't know. Yeah, too much going on? Okay, cool? 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:08.320 Oh my god, it's exhausting. Can you even imagine in 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:12.280 real life being in this situation now? It would be 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:17.280 so exhausting. Well, nobody, nobody got time for that? Like, 0:17:17.400 --> 0:17:20.719 who can heal that these days? Can you imagine like 0:17:21.000 --> 0:17:25.680 competing with your best friend for a guy. That would 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:28.600 never happen now though at our age, Like, no, it 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:31.520 would not and it wouldn't happen. I don't feel like 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.239 it would happen with girls young girls anymore either, I mean, 0:17:34.280 --> 0:17:36.840 does it still happen with young girls, like because it 0:17:36.960 --> 0:17:40.280 just feels like there's so much more girls supporting girls 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.600 energy out there and like standing united. I don't know, 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:49.480 maybe I'm not really question, but I can't imagine my 0:17:49.560 --> 0:17:55.200 daughter being in that situation. And I guess she might 0:17:55.320 --> 0:17:58.480 say one thing but feel and want and do another thing, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.119 and my be that Yeah, that is a good question. 0:18:02.160 --> 0:18:04.520 I don't know, And we would hope they would be like, 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.520 you know, we've come so far and like women are 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:10.760 so empowered and girls have everybody's backs, but like, you 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.000 don't know how you might feel with one of boys, 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:17.040 Like boys are tricky, especially young boys when you're a 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.440 young girl, Like they're just like they mess with your mind. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:28.400 They definitely are boys who like having multiple ladies girls women, Yeah, 0:18:28.680 --> 0:18:33.040 giving that attention. Meles Silver is one of them. I 0:18:33.080 --> 0:18:39.480 mean two major male dad not role models, Jack McKay 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.160 Mels Silver, and they're doing it both in the same episode. 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.800 It's kind of like what you guys were saying last week, like, oh, 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.359 the storyline it's all about like who's cheating, who's cheating? 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:50.280 In this week it's like whoa Jim Walsh is really 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:59.920 worse like Jack or Mel. They're both such pigs, legal 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:04.720 but criminal. I feel like Mel is worse when he says, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:13.440 uh that line, I'm gonna just like women. Okay, I 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.960 can't help myself. It takes no responsibility for just being 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:20.399 a total cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater. So I'm what does 0:19:20.440 --> 0:19:24.240 he say, So I'm a bastard? Yeah, he's so, like 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.000 this is how I am. No, technically, you're not a bastard, 0:19:28.040 --> 0:19:31.399 because a bastard is when you're you don't have a 0:19:31.440 --> 0:19:33.320 mom or something. Isn't that like the definition of a 0:19:33.359 --> 0:19:41.680 bastard technically, So, uh, you're a douchebag. I like how 0:19:41.720 --> 0:19:47.400 they wrote Jackie though she really rose to the crappy occasion, 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.640 you know what I'm saying, Like, she's not going off 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:54.919 the rails. She's being a good mom. She's including David. 0:19:55.280 --> 0:20:00.679 She's seeing things clearly, poor David. Oh my gosh, David, 0:20:01.080 --> 0:20:05.920 Like that broke my heart because he's like what happens 0:20:05.960 --> 0:20:08.080 to me? And I guess those are the things you 0:20:08.080 --> 0:20:11.320 don't think about. Like he's happy, he has a real 0:20:12.000 --> 0:20:15.720 shot at it, like a cohesive family. His two sisters 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:18.320 is a house he loves, you know, it's a real 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:20.360 family unit that he hasn't had in a long time 0:20:20.480 --> 0:20:23.800 or maybe ever. We don't know a full backstory well yet, 0:20:24.280 --> 0:20:29.399 but um yeah, how about when Kelly says, we're the kids, 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:35.679 will do what we're told? WHOA pretty much thumbed it up. Yeah, 0:20:35.800 --> 0:20:38.960 do you think that always? I don't know. I feel 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.640 like now, like we give our kids so much power. 0:20:43.400 --> 0:20:47.680 That's I mean, if I were in a situation like that, 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.920 I'd be like, what do you guys want? But that's 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:56.520 just me that were to everything about you know, we 0:20:56.800 --> 0:21:00.800 are family, like our kids come first over our sons. 0:21:00.800 --> 0:21:04.320 Don't put ourselves first. Yeah, so yeah, but that would 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:07.760 we didn't need to put to put that that weight 0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:12.560 of the that decision on them. So I'm so I'm 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.480 exactly in the same boat with you, Like I give 0:21:14.520 --> 0:21:17.560 my kids way too much power and too much, too much, 0:21:17.840 --> 0:21:22.280 like too many choices. And their dad is so great 0:21:22.440 --> 0:21:25.680 at like reeling me in and saying we're the parents, 0:21:26.080 --> 0:21:28.960 We're gonna do what we're gonna do, and they're gonna 0:21:29.000 --> 0:21:34.400 be okay because we love them. And I'm like, Okay, 0:21:34.440 --> 0:21:40.200 that hurts, but I'll try it. I'll do what you say. Yeah, 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:44.720 and it does end up the right move because they 0:21:45.040 --> 0:21:47.760 do want that, they don't know what to do. They 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.560 don't know either, so somebody's got to take the lead. 0:21:51.640 --> 0:21:56.600 It's so interesting because you're watching this show and uh, 0:21:56.800 --> 0:22:00.560 thank you to whoever wrote in that Jim was thirty seven. Well, 0:22:01.080 --> 0:22:08.760 James eck House and the actress we are older than them. Wow. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.040 And so you really are seeing I mean when you 0:22:12.200 --> 0:22:14.399 did it thirty years ago where I watched it, we 0:22:14.440 --> 0:22:17.560 would have never been like, oh, the parents are really 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.199 handling those well, like we would have never said that, 0:22:20.240 --> 0:22:24.040 And now we're watching it like in a totally different way. 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:28.240 And Chad, we're older than Jim and Cindy. I can't 0:22:28.320 --> 0:22:33.320 wrap my head around that. Nope, way older. Even when 0:22:33.359 --> 0:22:37.160 I watch it, I'm like, I feel like he's the dad. 0:22:37.400 --> 0:22:42.960 I feel so much young, says your dad, Dad, You're 0:22:43.000 --> 0:22:46.960 just thinking he's your daddy. Oh see, I wrapped my 0:22:47.000 --> 0:22:49.000 head around it very quickly when you said it, and 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.960 I was like, you're saying we look good. I mean, 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:59.080 still got it. Wow. I feel like I'm still remember 0:23:00.160 --> 0:23:05.120 thinking anything significant of mel when this storyline, Like when 0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:08.600 I watched it, I think I started didn't care. Yeah, 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:12.440 I was like, you're like, and now I'm like, Mel, 0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.600 what the hell? Yeah? And I think the same of Jack, 0:23:16.680 --> 0:23:18.840 other than him sort of being Dylan's dad. Like when 0:23:18.840 --> 0:23:20.560 I watched it, it it was like I've never gotten the 0:23:20.560 --> 0:23:23.000 weeds of like what a total ass he is, and 0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:26.919 like he's just total criminal. He's like money launder ring 0:23:27.000 --> 0:23:29.480 and tax evasion and this and this and stealing his 0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:33.240 kid's money. And I don't remember it like landing on 0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:37.280 me then like it does now where I'm like, oh, 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:42.960 there's something amazing something later on though, he turns into 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:47.160 a good guy, right, yeah, I think so something where 0:23:47.160 --> 0:23:53.400 deeming happens. I know, well, yeah he looks. But Mel, 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:58.159 how can he come back from this? I think he 0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.879 does what he doesn't know? I think they get back together, 0:24:00.920 --> 0:24:04.639 don't I think so? I now, I just want to 0:24:04.720 --> 0:24:08.280 keep that family together. Though Darnett, maybe he could go 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:12.160 to like sex rehab or something. Yeah, that's what would happen. 0:24:12.400 --> 0:24:16.320 He's essentially saying he's a sex sex addict, which really, 0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:20.480 like I don't know something about that, like having had 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:25.240 addicts in the past in my life, Like I guess 0:24:25.280 --> 0:24:30.200 that's the thing. But like he doesn't have any like okay, 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:31.879 find it triggers to me too, because I'm just like, 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:34.720 I don't know, is he or is he just using 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:36.560 that as an excuse and the people are like, oh, 0:24:36.720 --> 0:24:40.400 or he's he has a problem. It's a problem. He's 0:24:40.400 --> 0:24:42.520 an addict. He can't help himself, Like, is that where 0:24:42.560 --> 0:24:45.920 he's going and cheats and cheats? When the thing that 0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:49.920 you could go to sex addiction rehab for what what? 0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:52.480 I'd like to know what your people are like? That 0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:54.960 seems like the night the two thousand's that I don't know. 0:24:55.040 --> 0:24:57.399