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Speaker 1: I don't know, but it was stupid and beneath me.

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Speaker 1: But we had to have something so that we could

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Speaker 2: Odly enough, this podcast, this very podcast called One More Thing,

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Speaker 2: which is separate from Armstrong and Getdy on Demand, which

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Speaker 2: is our daily radio show, broke into the top one

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Speaker 2: hundred podcasts where they count podcasts in Marca. This just

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Speaker 1: The Armstrong and Getdy on Demand is in the top fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Can you believe that? I can. It's it's a brilliant thing. Wow,

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Speaker 1: nobody's more surprised than me anyway. So before we start

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Speaker 3: I think that he was a great athlete until he

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Speaker 1: And he had a hot activist girlfriend.

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Speaker 1: Jack anything else you want to add to that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think about the politics very much for whatever reason.

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Speaker 2: I mean, just if he had kept playing, and nobody

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Speaker 1: Because he came to be on screen smiling and saying,

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Speaker 1: my brief take on Colin Kaepernick that I've offered up

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Speaker 2: He'll he'll come out with a different point of view

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Speaker 1: So look, if Colin Kaepernet, once again coming off as

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Speaker 3: That's interesting, just to let you guys know that the

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Speaker 2: Well, I hope they're happy. I hope they changed those

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Speaker 2: I just looked it up. He made about forty three

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Speaker 1: So the startup received four million dollars in seed funding.

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Speaker 2: It was a dark and stormy night I've read. I've

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Speaker 2: read many of your books. Yeah, well with the cat

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Speaker 1: By the way, this says Kaepernick has still been in

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Speaker 2: Yes, oh that's too and he's thirty. What'd you say next?

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Speaker 2: So he's getting he's almost aged out. But Tim Tebow

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Speaker 1: Well, Kaepernick, unless his galvaal has been wamping on him,

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Speaker 2: All he had to do was agreed to stand for

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Speaker 2: but he had enough money, so there was no reason

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Speaker 3: I wonder if he's proud of him he's kicking himself

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Speaker 2: At thirty six, he might be edging toward kicking himself.

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Speaker 2: By the time he's fifty, I think he'll be fully

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