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<v Speaker 1>on the phone for a second date update today let

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<v Speaker 1>his emotions get the best of him on his first

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<v Speaker 1>date and now I don't even know why he's on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone to do a second date update. If I

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<v Speaker 1>were him, I would not want to see this girl again.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't even think i'd want to go in

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<v Speaker 1>public again. Regardless, he emailed us and wants to do

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<v Speaker 1>a second date update. His name is Keith. What's up, Keith?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey guys, how's it going? Oh my god, Keith. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like you should be embarrassed for yourself, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know why yet. Yeah, your email was crazy, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot believe what actually happened on your first date.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into that in just a second, But first off,

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<v Speaker 1>how'd you meet the girl that you want to call today?

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<v Speaker 1>What's her name? Alison? Alison? How did you meet Allison?

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<v Speaker 1>We met through an online dating site. Okay, that's pretty normal.

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<v Speaker 1>I just haven't dated very much, and my friends finally

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<v Speaker 1>convinced me start doing some online dating. And I tried

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of like the free online services, and just

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<v Speaker 1>they were terrible. I had terrible, terrible experience. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 1>free ones are never good. Sounds like the memory's still

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<v Speaker 1>haunting him right now. Oh yeah PTSD. One girl I

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<v Speaker 1>met within the first five minute of our date, she

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<v Speaker 1>asked me how much money I made? Do you make

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of money? I realized it's the first couple

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<v Speaker 1>of minutes we've met, but now I want to know, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>having flashbags. And when I wouldn't tell her, she literally

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<v Speaker 1>was like, all right, well this is done, and she

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<v Speaker 1>left and it was over. Wow. I can't believe you

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<v Speaker 1>even continued online dating after such a horrible experience. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the worst part is it didn't get any better.

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<v Speaker 1>I met this other girl on a date and she

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<v Speaker 1>brought her dog, and I kid you not, she talked

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<v Speaker 1>to a dog more than she talked to me. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>so you've had a bad run yeah on these free

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<v Speaker 1>So I finally was like, Okay, I'm gonna sack up.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna pay for like a paid service, because maybe

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<v Speaker 1>the quality will be better, you know. So, is this

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<v Speaker 1>the first date that you went on off of that

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<v Speaker 1>paid site? Yeah? Yeah, and this one sounds like it

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<v Speaker 1>went very well, I mean, at least for you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>comparatively speaking, it started out great. Um, Matt Allison went

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<v Speaker 1>to Yeah, and just from the moment I saw her, instantly,

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<v Speaker 1>I knew like there was something there. She was she

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<v Speaker 1>was gorgeous. I couldn't believe it. Okay, and then right

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<v Speaker 1>off the bat, she didn't ask you how much money

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<v Speaker 1>you were making, or she didn't have a dog with her,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a plus. She's also a great part. But

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like you've lowered your standards so much compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the other incidences that you had. Yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I know my standards had been kind of lowered. But

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<v Speaker 1>she was like better than I ever would have expected.

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<v Speaker 1>She was smart, she was cute, she was sweet, and

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<v Speaker 1>she just normal. She just seemed like a normal person

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<v Speaker 1>that I had a really great connection with. And I

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it kind of caught me off guard, and

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<v Speaker 1>I just was like starting to feel like overwhelmed, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a good way, Like I was. I was swooning

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<v Speaker 1>and I just got caught up in the moment, and

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's when I think I messed up. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell everybody what happened and then explain why

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<v Speaker 1>you did this, Okay, just try and understand all the context.

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<v Speaker 1>So so we meet, We're hanging out, the date's going great,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just keeps getting better and better and better.

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<v Speaker 1>And she gets up to go to the bathroom and

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<v Speaker 1>at this point, I'm like, my heart is just like overwhelmed,

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<v Speaker 1>like overflowing. I'm like, she's the one, like she has

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<v Speaker 1>to be. I know it sounds crazy, but I felt it,

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<v Speaker 1>and so while she was in the bathroom, I decided

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<v Speaker 1>to do something crazy. Um. Yeah. So so when she

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<v Speaker 1>gets back, she sits down and she looks at me,

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<v Speaker 1>and she can kind of tell I have something I

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<v Speaker 1>want to say. So I looked to her and I say, look,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we just met, but there's something need to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you. And she says okay, And I straight up

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<v Speaker 1>told her I want to spend the rest of my

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<v Speaker 1>life with her. Oh my god. Yeah, Like I break

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<v Speaker 1>it out in hives just even hearing that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>love love. Yeah. No, I know it sounds crazy, even

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<v Speaker 1>you me saying it right now, But I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I just was in the moment. I couldn't help it,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I would have regretted it forever if I didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I got I made a ring out of a paper

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<v Speaker 1>napkin and I got down on one knee. And did

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<v Speaker 1>everybody see this or was it? Yeah? People were like plotting,

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<v Speaker 1>they were smiling there. What did she do? She? Uh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I could tell she was shocked. Um, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>she saw that coming. No, I guarantee she didn't. Did

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<v Speaker 1>she think that you were joking? No, I mean she

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<v Speaker 1>knew there's no like I was dead serious. She could

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<v Speaker 1>see it in my face. How did she react? She

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<v Speaker 1>was calm, She didn't like freak out, but she's kind

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<v Speaker 1>of looked at me after everyone quieted down and it

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<v Speaker 1>was nice about it, and she was just kind of like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is our first date? And what did you say

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<v Speaker 1>to her? I was like, I know, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>feel this and I don't I can't deny it. And

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<v Speaker 1>she was like, I think I think I should leave,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she left. Yeah, because Keith, you sound crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to lay it out there. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>know I know how I sound. Did she leave you

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<v Speaker 1>right there in the restaurant by yourself. Oh yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>finished my eggs Benedict alone. You've got crazy psycho stuck

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<v Speaker 1>or proposing to you within like the first hour of

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<v Speaker 1>meeting someone. I mean, I mean that kind of thing happens, right.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen rom comms when you know, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I thought she felt I really thought she

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<v Speaker 1>felt the same way. Maybe she did. Maybe you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>she ran right out of the restaurant to shop her

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<v Speaker 1>wedding dress. I'm busy planning this whole time, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why she can't get back to him. Yeah. Probably What

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<v Speaker 1>what what did she ever do to make you think

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<v Speaker 1>that she thought that she should marry you and get

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<v Speaker 1>engaged right there on your first date? Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that's a fair question. Um so when we when we

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<v Speaker 1>were talking, I like to go to comedy shows, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, in my spare time. And I told her that,

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<v Speaker 1>and she she wanted to come with me. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>met a single woman who was excited about Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>you ask for her hand in marriage on a first date. Yeah, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I read it wrong. Whatever. Yeah, I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>you haven't talked to her since this date. No, and

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<v Speaker 1>I have tried very hard. Yeah, I know she's the one.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the thing, Like, and I should have just waited,

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<v Speaker 1>played it cool. Yeah, I could have held my tongue,

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<v Speaker 1>but I just I couldn't. All right, well we'll play

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<v Speaker 1>a song, come back, get her on the phone, and

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<v Speaker 1>see if we can get you, guys, second date, and

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<v Speaker 1>then maybe you can get married after that day to day.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that would be amazing. All right, Well, we'll get

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<v Speaker 1>your second date update right after this. Hang on brooking

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<v Speaker 1>jubil in the morning date. You know what I'm hearing

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<v Speaker 1>in today's second date update? Wedding bells. Oh that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like this is going to be the first

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<v Speaker 1>ever second date update that ends with a couple getting

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<v Speaker 1>married live on the radio. Over the phone. Wow, if

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<v Speaker 1>you just tuned in. Keith is on the phone. He

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<v Speaker 1>wants to call Allison. They met online, went out for

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<v Speaker 1>some brunch. He got a little wrapped up in his

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<v Speaker 1>emotions and actually proposed to her on their first date,

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<v Speaker 1>and then she stormed out. He hasn't talked to her since.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obvious why she's not talking to him because she

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<v Speaker 1>thinks he's a weirdo who proposed on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>But Keith, here's my advice to you, man, before we

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<v Speaker 1>make this phone call. If you fall off that horse,

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<v Speaker 1>you get right back on. When we get her on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and you talk to her, propose again. Keith.

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<v Speaker 1>Just keep proposing. She'll eventually say yes. Yeah. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure that's how that works. But I don't know, man,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should just go for it one more time. Keith,

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<v Speaker 1>what's your plan here? Apologize? I mean I've already apologized

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<v Speaker 1>so many times on her voicemail and shrewd text message,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think she understands I'm sorry. Okay, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want a chance to explain. All right, there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna dollar phone number right now. Okay, look, before

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<v Speaker 1>you call her, if you you guys can like have

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<v Speaker 1>my back on this, that would I need? I need

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<v Speaker 1>all the help I can get. Yeah, you really do.

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<v Speaker 1>In this Seconday update, I'm not gonna lie to you. You

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<v Speaker 1>You need all the help you can get. Okay, Please,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm dialing her phon number right now. Here we go. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>I was looking for Alison. Yes, this is Alison. Alison.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Jubil from Rook and Jewil in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>How are you good? How are you? I'm good? Who's

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<v Speaker 1>this again? I'm sorry, I'm not This is Jebil I

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<v Speaker 1>host the radio show Brook and Jewel in the Morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure what that is. Well, it's a radio show.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty much the only explanation I can give you.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a little bit of talking, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>crappy music, and we do a segment on our show

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<v Speaker 1>called the second Date Update. I'm assuming you've never heard

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<v Speaker 1>of that either, not familiar with it. You went out

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<v Speaker 1>on a date recently with a guy named Keith. Oh boy, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith told us about your date. Oh really, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you know? Do you know that he proposed to me?

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<v Speaker 1>We do? Yeah, he told us all about that. He

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<v Speaker 1>says that he feels bad, but he also wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>get you on the phone and tell you that he

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<v Speaker 1>liked you a lot and wanted to see you again. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>let me ask you a question. Okay, how did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel when do you propose to you on your first date?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was really weird. I feel like that's

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<v Speaker 1>an understatement. Definitely has that ever happened you before? No,

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<v Speaker 1>definitely not. It was it scary, creepy, A little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of bulls. It was crazy. I mean when you picture

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<v Speaker 1>getting proposed to when you're young, a little girl, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't exactly picture it happening on the first date at brunch.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you go no? Weird? Okay? So yeah, he told

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<v Speaker 1>us all about your date and he said that he

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<v Speaker 1>feels really bad and he's tried to apologize to you,

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<v Speaker 1>and he just wanted to be able to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you again and see if you'd go out with him.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he should feel bad. What was I supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do? Say yes and marry the guy? Is right?

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<v Speaker 1>Was there any part of you that thought, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's romantic? No? I was completely shocked. It was one

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<v Speaker 1>of those things where you just pause. It took me

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<v Speaker 1>about three minutes to even get a reaction, and I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even know what to think. Yeah. So I'm guessing

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<v Speaker 1>that the reason you aren't calling him back for a

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<v Speaker 1>second date is because of the wedding proposed? Was there

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<v Speaker 1>anything else? Does there need to be another reason? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think so that's enough of an explanation. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Keith did talk to us, and he's really He doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>sound like a weird guy. He just says he got

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<v Speaker 1>caught up in the moment, and he was super excited

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<v Speaker 1>because you're like the best girl he's gone out on

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<v Speaker 1>a date with ever, and he handled it the wrong way.

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<v Speaker 1>That's sweet that he says that. But I mean we

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<v Speaker 1>were vibing, we got along, we had, you know, a

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<v Speaker 1>good connection at first, and I felt a spark. But

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<v Speaker 1>when he broke into tears and started proposing, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, it changes things a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>changes your whole vibe. Yeah, Alison, I do need to

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<v Speaker 1>let you know that Keith is actually on the other

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<v Speaker 1>line and wants to talk to you. Are you kidding me? No,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not, Hey, Alison, Oh my god, what do you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want a chance to explain myself. I told you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know that what I did

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<v Speaker 1>was crazy. I know it was insane. I got caught

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<v Speaker 1>up in the moment. I'm an emotional person and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a good excuse. I just got caught up

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<v Speaker 1>in the moment. It's not the nineteen twenties and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't just meet somebody and marry them up in the afternoon. Yeah. No,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, I get that, But can you honestly say

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<v Speaker 1>you weren't like feeling anything. Like, I can't be the

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<v Speaker 1>only one who was feeling something. No, I was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I liked you at first, and you seem normal, and

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely felt a connection. But when you broke into

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<v Speaker 1>tears and proposed, I just thought you were crazy. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, that's totally fair. I'm not crazy. I've

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<v Speaker 1>had some terrible experiences dating in the past, and like,

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<v Speaker 1>you were so cool and normal, and I just like,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt it. I got washed in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I got caught up in it. I feel like, if

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<v Speaker 1>that's the kind of guy you are, then who knows

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<v Speaker 1>what other reckless decisions you'll make down the line. Dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I will red flag, is what she's saying. I understand. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I get it. Stand how that could be a red flag,

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<v Speaker 1>or how I could seem crazy and unstable. I'm not like,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to call my friends and I have people

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<v Speaker 1>who will vouch for me. You want to supply references

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<v Speaker 1>to Alison Will I will? I think I think this

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<v Speaker 1>is important. I don't. I don't want to lose this

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<v Speaker 1>potential relationship just because I messed up on the first date.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's a shame because I liked him too.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just not looking to get married tomorrow. I'd like

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<v Speaker 1>to date someone for a little while before we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about marriage. So you did like him though, Yeah? I did. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>Then why don't you give it one more shot and

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<v Speaker 1>go out on another date? Would you like to go

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<v Speaker 1>out on a second date with Keith? We will pay

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<v Speaker 1>for it, Alison. Before you answer, I just I need

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<v Speaker 1>you to know I did watch a couple of rom

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<v Speaker 1>coms on Netflix the week before we went out, so

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<v Speaker 1>I was in an emotional place already. A blame it

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<v Speaker 1>on the cos I love it. It's like Katherine Heigel

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<v Speaker 1>just gets to his heart. Man, Alison, will you go

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<v Speaker 1>out with Keith again? I don't know. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. This whole thing is just so weird. You

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<v Speaker 1>cannot blame her, you guys, the only thing I'm proposing

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<v Speaker 1>right now is a second date. I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>do this the right way and forget about the first

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<v Speaker 1>date and just move forward. That's all I'm asking. Alison.

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<v Speaker 1>Can you forget about the wedding proposal on your first

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<v Speaker 1>date and go out with Keith one more time? I

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<v Speaker 1>know that's a lot to ask, but do you think

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<v Speaker 1>you can do it. It is um. If you guys

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<v Speaker 1>think it's a good idea, I do. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great idea. At least see one more time how

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<v Speaker 1>he handles himself. I mean, he's not totally crazy. Right there,

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<v Speaker 1>you said he's totally crazy. I changed my mind again.

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<v Speaker 1>I said he's not totally crazy. Yeah, you just got

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<v Speaker 1>a little worked up. You know, you're saying partially crazy

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<v Speaker 1>though everybody's partially crazy, and it's fully saying yeah. No.

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<v Speaker 1>I I just can't. I'm sorry. I can't, man, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>what happen? We were there and then I don't know? Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry. What did we learn? What have we learned? Though? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that this is all about learning? What did we learn

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<v Speaker 1>from today's second date update? That love isn't real? We've

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<v Speaker 1>learned that, But we've also learned no rom poms before

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<v Speaker 1>your next date? Okay, broken jewel in the morning,