WEBVTT - 08/17/21 DPS Hour 2 Sam Monson

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 1>which he sold off for one hundred bajillion dollars. So, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>if I had sold it for that much, I would

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<v Speaker 1>not be hosting a radio show this morning. I'd be

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<v Speaker 1>on a yacht with a bond villain somewhere in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you say a Bondville. Yeah, bond villain or a

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<v Speaker 1>bond villain. Yeah, okay, I like that. I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hang out with driving a Bondville, which is like a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think we my parents

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<v Speaker 1>had one of those. Yeah, we'd shoved the kids in

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<v Speaker 1>the way back, remember the way back. Yes, I travel

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<v Speaker 1>across country nineteen eighty one. We moved cross Tree. We

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<v Speaker 1>had the old station wagon and we had the third

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<v Speaker 1>row facing facing the opposite way. We played the license

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<v Speaker 1>plate game, right, two dogs, three kids and all this stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>all our lifely possessions, and we would play the we

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<v Speaker 1>would play the um the license plate. Now you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't move the car until the kids are in

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<v Speaker 1>seat belts because we're you know, freaking were in seat belts.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh really yeow facing the other way, but we're in

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<v Speaker 1>we're in seatbelts. We didn't in the way back. We didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Me and my brother we did not like to be

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<v Speaker 1>locked into seat belts sitting up and all that. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean like we had the dogs weren't in seat belts.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but but but but we were. We just we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have any devices, right, remember, I mean that's right

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<v Speaker 1>what travel was like before there was the DV The

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<v Speaker 1>DVD player was a godsend when you had little kids.

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<v Speaker 1>And then of course now we've gotten too devices where

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<v Speaker 1>you like, just give him a device and tell them

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<v Speaker 1>and then you won't even hear him. Then they become

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<v Speaker 1>zombies back there. Yeah that's not good. Um. So anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>he's Jason mcadowna. I'm Doug gotlie. The big news in

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<v Speaker 1>basketball is Joel and Signs is going to sign a

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<v Speaker 1>four year, one hundred ninety six million dollars max extension

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<v Speaker 1>and in football, the biggest news we can come up

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<v Speaker 1>with his Tim Tebow got cut. We were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow and I and I want to get to fans

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<v Speaker 1>in a second, because it is kind of related. I

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<v Speaker 1>would also say that that one of the reasons that

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<v Speaker 1>people are down on Tebow is because of what we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen from some of these A good number of the

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<v Speaker 1>TV preachers right where they're not what they purport themselves

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<v Speaker 1>to being. The too good to be true is in

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<v Speaker 1>fact too good to be true, and I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think he catches some of that. It's like, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>way that he's a nice guy. There's no way that

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<v Speaker 1>he like. We just we think of it as fake

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<v Speaker 1>because because there have been others that have fooled us.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think the big thing is really it's the

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow fans were so fervent in their belief, in their

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<v Speaker 1>following of him. It's you know, it's like any of

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<v Speaker 1>these fan bases, like you don't dislike the player, you

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<v Speaker 1>dislike the fans because the fans are noxious. Yeah, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like the Red It's like Red Sox fans they hadn't

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<v Speaker 1>won forever, then they finally win a World Series and

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<v Speaker 1>incredible comeback fashion, and they then they just become the

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<v Speaker 1>most obnoxious, arrogant fan base ever. Kentucky Wildcats, Doug have

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<v Speaker 1>the worst. I know that nobody cares about college basketball

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<v Speaker 1>other than you and I, but I would like to

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<v Speaker 1>like Kentucky, but their fans are insufferable clowns and they

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<v Speaker 1>are just all over social media. So I can't like

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<v Speaker 1>Kentucky because of their fans being just clueless. But for Tebow,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder about this. Doug. So, a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>and NFL teams agreed he's not first round material quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>Accuracy not totally his thing. Yeah, is Josh McDaniels drafting

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<v Speaker 1>him in the first round? Like? Is that part of

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<v Speaker 1>the hate? A lot of people thought Tim Tebow's not

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<v Speaker 1>really a starting quarterback, don't But Josh McDaniels saw something

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<v Speaker 1>booted Jake Cutler so he could draft Tim Tebow and like,

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's like Tim Tebow, he stinks

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<v Speaker 1>at quarterback? Why is he a first round pick? Does

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<v Speaker 1>some of this hate come from Josh McDaniels making that move? Who,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, people love to credit Oh Josh McDaniels

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<v Speaker 1>and Brady, Josh McDaniels and this, and he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a head coach. And Josh McDaniels is the one

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<v Speaker 1>who moved up to draft Tim Tebow in the first

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<v Speaker 1>round when nobody else thought he was a first round talent.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me say this about Josh McDaniels. Okay, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>good coordinator hasn't proven to be a good coach and

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<v Speaker 1>might not get that opportunity outside of New England because

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<v Speaker 1>of what happened with the Innanapolis Colts. Okay, but let's

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<v Speaker 1>not let's not defame what he's been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>during his time as a coordinator in New England. Right, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Brady is great, but working with he's been even

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<v Speaker 1>better working with Josh and and and being a head

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<v Speaker 1>coach in usually very very seldom are you getting a

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<v Speaker 1>chance to do what you actually do best. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>it's a very different skill set in many ways, and

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<v Speaker 1>all depends upon how you how you kind of craft

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<v Speaker 1>out your staff. But I'll let me just say this

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<v Speaker 1>about Josh McDaniels, Like, the truth is, he may have

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<v Speaker 1>picked the wrong guy, but he may have known the

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<v Speaker 1>trend that was coming and locked in on something that

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately has proven to work. Right, Like, look what they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing in Baltimore, what they did in San Francisco with Kaepernick,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what Josh McDaniels was doing in Denver with a

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<v Speaker 1>more limited quarterback. So he picked the wrong guy. Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow just isn't good enough as a thrower. He just

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't been. And honestly, like he's one of those guys

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<v Speaker 1>that when you're trying to explain to somebody who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really get football, you're like, well, Tim Tebow ran a

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<v Speaker 1>four to six. He was a terrible He had bad

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<v Speaker 1>feet in the pocket, right, He just had terrible feet

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<v Speaker 1>in the pocket. So he wasn't nimble as a thrower.

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<v Speaker 1>He couldn't reset his feet. It's like Russell Wilson's note quicker,

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<v Speaker 1>But Russell Wilson has incredible feet in the pockets so

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<v Speaker 1>that whichever way he rolls left or right, he can

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<v Speaker 1>set them quickly and deliver on time, on target. He

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<v Speaker 1>has a better arm as well. But the point is,

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<v Speaker 1>I would actually tell you that Tim Tebow is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I mean, Josh McDaniels was kind of ahead of

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<v Speaker 1>the curve in terms of selecting Tim Tebow understanding that

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<v Speaker 1>this is a way you can play with a limited

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback and a limited playbook and still be very competitive

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. Right, so sometimes guys understand where leagues

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<v Speaker 1>are going. They just picked the wrong quarterback. How about

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<v Speaker 1>this is this is probably not gonna go over well,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm saying it anyway. How much of this is jealousy? Doug.

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Tebow is a handsome individual, right, He's very religious,

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<v Speaker 1>He's obviously in shape. He runs with his shirt off

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<v Speaker 1>in New York when he was on the Jets for

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<v Speaker 1>eight minutes, and it's on the cover of every newspaper. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes a meme on the internet. Like he's married

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<v Speaker 1>to Miss Universe. Literally, she won Miss Universe. And the

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<v Speaker 1>guy has played a high level of college football. He's

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<v Speaker 1>won everything there, and then he made it to the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>He went and go played minor league baseball. He came

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<v Speaker 1>back to the NFL for another shot, and now he's

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<v Speaker 1>got the rest of his life ahead of him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a millionaire multiple times over. Like everything he touches he

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<v Speaker 1>does well at. And yeah, it doesn't matter that he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't make major league baseball. He's still played a high

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<v Speaker 1>level of minor league baseball and he was a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>on a playoff team. Like, the guy is living the dream,

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<v Speaker 1>like we everybody says, Oh, I'm living the dream, baby,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. Like stop for a second and think Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow is totally kicking assid life. Okay. I think there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people out there who just have a

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<v Speaker 1>crappy station in life and just want to hate on

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<v Speaker 1>a guy because he's got everything and nothing, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>was handed to Tim Tebow. Okay, go look up his

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<v Speaker 1>parents that he wasn't born on third base, none of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff. With Tebow, everything he's gotten, he's worked his

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<v Speaker 1>butt off for it. That is really what America is

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<v Speaker 1>all about. And I think Tim Tebow's living the dream.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna sit here and defend the guy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he's living the dream currently. Like

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<v Speaker 1>the other part too, it is this is the third time,

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<v Speaker 1>I believe, maybe the fourth time he's been released, right,

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets released him, the Patriots released him, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Eagles released him, right, right, But I you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>here's the other part to it. I'm imagine yourself and

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<v Speaker 1>you are there's a statue of you at the University

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida. You won two national championships, one as a

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<v Speaker 1>starter for your head coach, and earlier today, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they call him in Tim, we love you, just not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna work out or whatever that that feeling when you've

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<v Speaker 1>worked your entire life. And this is not just Tim Tebow.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a I think it's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>you watch and you should have great empathy for when

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<v Speaker 1>you watch Hard Knocks when a guy gets released and

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<v Speaker 1>this is it, right this, We're We're good. This is it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a prize fighter. Like prize fighters, Oscar

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<v Speaker 1>de la Joya is going to fight again, right like

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<v Speaker 1>they just I saw that. What the hell is he

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<v Speaker 1>doing any money? Guys? I thought the guy was worth

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<v Speaker 1>tons of mill hundreds of billions of dollars. You know, Sez,

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<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. But they all do it, right, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>Muhammad Ali and he fought well past his prime. And

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Tyson, you know, and when these exhibitions like they

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<v Speaker 1>all they all like, but this is it. He will

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<v Speaker 1>never play in the NFL ever again. He will never

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<v Speaker 1>put on an NFL jersey as a player ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm with you. Like if you have a if

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<v Speaker 1>you sit there and go like and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he was like the first ever sports reality star, right

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<v Speaker 1>his high school football team had there's a reality show

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<v Speaker 1>based upon That's when we first learned. Oh yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was um hold on, I'll think of the name in

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<v Speaker 1>a second, somebody I end up uh tweeting tweeting us.

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<v Speaker 1>But but and here's how big he would. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>he was coming out as a recruit, he was either

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to Alabama or to Florida, right, and

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<v Speaker 1>Alabama Mike Shula was the coach. If he goes to Alabama,

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<v Speaker 1>the Nick Saban thing never happens. It doesn't happen. It

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't because you know, if he goes there, Shula still

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<v Speaker 1>the coach. They went. I don't know if they win

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<v Speaker 1>national championships, but it's to come. Like every how we

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<v Speaker 1>look at things is completely different. But I just I

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<v Speaker 1>have empathy for a guy who now in his mid thirties. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>football's over, baseball's over. Now we got to figure out

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of our lives. And you're right, he did win,

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<v Speaker 1>like just make it playing a down in the NFL.

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<v Speaker 1>I've said this all the time, but like, are we

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a healthy enough respect for how good they are. Guys.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Now let me ask you. Hold on, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>you recently, I don't know how much you talk about it,

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<v Speaker 1>but you posted about it online. So you at surgery recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Right for the ACO. Okay, you played a high level

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<v Speaker 1>of college basketball. You played at highest levels of AU.

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<v Speaker 1>I think you played internationally. I'm not gonna go through

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<v Speaker 1>your resume, but I am curious. Will you be playing

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<v Speaker 1>any more pickup basketball coming off the ACL injury? Yes? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I like to hear. Don I do love

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that. Yes, okay, because you know me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>I'm kind of the opposite. I was a good youth

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<v Speaker 1>athlete and then everybody got huge. I did not get

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<v Speaker 1>huge in high school, and I couldn't make the basketball

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<v Speaker 1>team or like I was like the last guy from

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<v Speaker 1>the tennis team. I just missed the golf team. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was depressing. Wait wait wait wait, yeah it was

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<v Speaker 1>it cuts on your golf team in tennis team. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yet I thought that's what the golf team

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<v Speaker 1>and the tennis team were four guys that got cut

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<v Speaker 1>from other sports. You had to have like a certain

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<v Speaker 1>score in golf and I narrowly missed it. It was depressing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was like a good athlete, but I went

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<v Speaker 1>to a big school, like big graduating class, like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of good athletes, and so everybody asked me now,

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<v Speaker 1>like Jason, why are you entering a tennis tournament? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are you playing in like soccer tournaments? And I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to relive the youth that I kind of

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<v Speaker 1>missed because I was good when I was young, and

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<v Speaker 1>now I'm like, you know, I'm a good athlete. I

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<v Speaker 1>played pick up basketball a lot, I'll play god, play

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<v Speaker 1>beach volleyball. I was in a tennis tournament, like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>living that now, and Doug, it feels awesome, like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want it to end. I cannot fathom mentally what

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow's going through when he's had people cheering for him

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<v Speaker 1>since he was what probably fourteen years old. Everywhere he went,

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<v Speaker 1>stadium's full cheering four or against him, and now there's

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<v Speaker 1>no cheering and there's no football and there's no base

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<v Speaker 1>Like I cannot understand mentally what he must be going through.

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<v Speaker 1>And the same holds for a lot of these guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and even you know, speaking to a guy like Cam Newton,

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<v Speaker 1>who dating back for what fifteen years, has been like

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<v Speaker 1>the alpha everywhere he's gone and now he's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with it looking over his shoulder and is this

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<v Speaker 1>the end for him? It's tough on these athletes. Guys

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<v Speaker 1>have some empathy. Well, I mean, I like look and

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<v Speaker 1>interestingly they're they're tied at the hip, right, they're both

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<v Speaker 1>at Florida. That's right, great point let Florida together. And

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<v Speaker 1>Cam was behind Tebow and didn't think it was right

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<v Speaker 1>and obviously got in a little trouble and then went

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<v Speaker 1>to junior college, was the greatest junior college quarterback ever,

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<v Speaker 1>won a national championship at Auburn, and then he was

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<v Speaker 1>the number one overall pick. Right, So there's there is

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<v Speaker 1>there a little kind of a little justin fields, how

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<v Speaker 1>you like me now sort of feeling to it um

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<v Speaker 1>after after leaving the University of Florida. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a there's a real human like. Look, the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is here. Here's the biggest difference I think in football

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<v Speaker 1>and any other sport and mad baseball, I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere you know, like, look, in football, there there's no Europe. Right,

0:13:04.800 --> 0:13:09.080
<v Speaker 1>there's the arena league has mostly gone under, although there

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<v Speaker 1>are some There is an arena sort of league. There

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<v Speaker 1>is Canada. But when you're done, you're done. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you can go like, hey, fellas, let's get the

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<v Speaker 1>helmets to get the shoulder pads. So let's meet down

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<v Speaker 1>at thirty eighth Street and let's go let's go play

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<v Speaker 1>football this weekend. Like and and look, most basketball players

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<v Speaker 1>when they're done, they're done anyway. The guys that play

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<v Speaker 1>in the NBA, they're just like, look, I'm good. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can still if they want to, especially guys

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<v Speaker 1>who's who didn't make it to you know, their highest

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<v Speaker 1>level dreams. Whatever they can, you can. I can still

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<v Speaker 1>go and play pick up basketball when I'm healthy. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So my thing is, it's it's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>that far have struggled to walk away. I think Tim

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<v Speaker 1>Tebow will feel the people cheering for him. He will

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<v Speaker 1>have that same following. He will still have his flock

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<v Speaker 1>as he as he preaches the good word, probably around

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<v Speaker 1>the world and in a good portion of this country.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's it's different. There's nothing like the energy of

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<v Speaker 1>a football like my son had his first tackle football practice. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's his second it's his second time playing the

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<v Speaker 1>basketball guy. Yeah, he played tackle football already. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>played when he was ten. Now he's twelve playing. They

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a season last year obviously, right, right, So

0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>but he's he's a little behind only because he was

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<v Speaker 1>away at camp and then seeing friends or whatever. And

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<v Speaker 1>but but the point is, like, there's nothing like the

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<v Speaker 1>energy of a football team. Basketball team is great too, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's a little family. We have different levels. But

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of being in front of fifty three dudes,

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<v Speaker 1>fifty two dudes, you know, or eighty four guys and

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<v Speaker 1>what he did against old miss right when they're playing terrible,

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<v Speaker 1>when he gave us in passion speech. Yet time can

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<v Speaker 1>we play that? By the way, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>little hokey, okay, but it's kind of what kind of course,

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of what sports is about. It's about it's

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<v Speaker 1>about leadership, and I'm in together and like all of

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<v Speaker 1>these again, it does feel hokey. It does feel, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a little too formulaic. I get it. But it's real though,

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<v Speaker 1>But it's absolutely real. It's absolutely it's absolutely real that

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<v Speaker 1>the leadership component to playing the position is a real

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<v Speaker 1>and tangible thing, and it's it's kind of what you're

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<v Speaker 1>saying about Tom Brady, which I agree with, Like Aaron

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<v Speaker 1>Rodgers is a better quarterback and checking every single box, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>every single box. But the only thing that Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>has that you could ever hold against him is like, man,

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<v Speaker 1>when guys are out, they're out right. When guys are out,

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<v Speaker 1>they're out, and not everybody is down with Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 1>Whereas Brady, however, he's been able to do it. Dudes

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<v Speaker 1>love him. Yeah, and like, look, there's a different level.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm Aaron Rodgers generally well liked by guys he

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<v Speaker 1>plays with and really respected by it. Whereas Jay Cutler,

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<v Speaker 1>they just hated him. Right when he was in Chicago,

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<v Speaker 1>they hated him. They moved his locker to another room

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<v Speaker 1>because he was so despised within the locker room. You

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<v Speaker 1>gotta be beloved by those guys because you get all

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<v Speaker 1>the attention, you get more money, they block for you.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're successful, people only talk about you, not about them, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>Like you have to be you have to have. But

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<v Speaker 1>that leadership component is a real thing, and to me,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing like the football leadership that Tebo had in

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<v Speaker 1>high school in college. I remember he's a homeschool kid.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't a guy who grew up around the fellas.

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<v Speaker 1>That's really really hard to do. And you know, Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>all anybody's gonna remember is here. He is missing blocks

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<v Speaker 1>that most tight ends should be able to make in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League, and it's it's like Jordan's striking out.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know it's the same sport that he's played,

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<v Speaker 1>but it might as well be a different sport when

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<v Speaker 1>you're trying to block and you're trying to run routes

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<v Speaker 1>and you're trying to do all these things which he's

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<v Speaker 1>never really done. And if you want to yourself, why

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<v Speaker 1>guys don't do it, there's your answer. It's just too hard.

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<v Speaker 1>It's too hard to learn on the phone. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like Tibo is gonna try to stick around and

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<v Speaker 1>go to Canada and play football. He doesn't need the

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<v Speaker 1>money that bad. At least by all accounts, he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need the money. Dan la Hoya, I'm still stunned that

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<v Speaker 1>he's fighting at this age like that has to be risky, right,

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<v Speaker 1>It just can't be smart to go in a ring

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<v Speaker 1>at this age. Um taking all those blows to the

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<v Speaker 1>head and fight like Tibo. I think he's good. He

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<v Speaker 1>retires and probably goes into politics or religion, right or

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<v Speaker 1>both or both. He's Jason McIntyre. I'm Doug Gottlie. This

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<v Speaker 1>so so so here here's I do want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to this. Sam Munson's going to join us lead NFL

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<v Speaker 1>behavior in the stands and how it relates to sports gambling.

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. So, m did you did you see this?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you see this? In regards to sports betting, which

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<v Speaker 1>I know you are huge on, right that licenses to

0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:44.600
<v Speaker 1>offer online betting sports betting in New York are attracting

0:19:44.640 --> 0:19:48.320
<v Speaker 1>big names and creating partnerships between the largest bookmakers in

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<v Speaker 1>the US. Jay Z, this is a real story, Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Jay Z and the seventy six Ers owner Michael Rubin

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<v Speaker 1>are part of a group applying for an online sports

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<v Speaker 1>bett license in New York and planned to form Fanatics sportsbook.

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<v Speaker 1>According to documents released by the New York Sports Gaming Association,

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<v Speaker 1>the Fanatics application is one of the six being reviewed. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>like all of these uh, what is it? Fan duel, DraftKings,

0:20:15.119 --> 0:20:19.800
<v Speaker 1>bet MGM, you know, Ballys, bet Rivers, all that. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's kind of all everyone's going after kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the same prize, which is betting in the big states, right,

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<v Speaker 1>New York, California, Texas, etc. I'm sure you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>viral video this weekend or the fight in La between

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<v Speaker 1>ramon ram crime. You saw that that video was insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, there's a lot. There's a there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot too. I mean, that's ton to unpack there. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just briefly, Doug, if you have the high

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<v Speaker 1>ground and it's one on four, are you still attacking

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<v Speaker 1>the guys? He had to be very lubricated with alcohol.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think, well, I mean, like, look, I think

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<v Speaker 1>he was wearing Aaron Donald jersey. And here's a problem, Like, hey, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not Aaron Donald. You're not You're not Aaron Donald

0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:05.919
<v Speaker 1>plays down there, you're up here. But here, here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen enough bad behavior from fans. And it happened

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<v Speaker 1>before obviously the mouth of the Palace thing, and there

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<v Speaker 1>were there were some similarities there with the lady who

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<v Speaker 1>threw the pepsi cup is the guy who threw the

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<v Speaker 1>blue cup from like feet away down soap? Du I

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<v Speaker 1>mean did the pruder work? The one lady instigated it

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<v Speaker 1>and then basically was out of there, right yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean she was standing there. Yeah. But the bigger point though,

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<v Speaker 1>is like if you think fan behaviors now when you

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<v Speaker 1>just have alcohol and dudes out, and I add in

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<v Speaker 1>sports gambling to it, which has always been there, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's kind of been a little below the surface, right,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'll never forget when I was When I was

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman, I played Notre Dame. We played three games

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<v Speaker 1>in the garden, and every garden game in the garden

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<v Speaker 1>is the same, like they stay around for I like

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, why are they were blowing out Saint

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<v Speaker 1>John's why are they still here? Like the betting line, dude,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, I had no idea. I just had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea, And you have people like I can't believe.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I think Brian Mahoney was the coach. He

0:22:04.400 --> 0:22:08.080
<v Speaker 1>Mahoney minus six, So you kid me. You guys are

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<v Speaker 1>a joke, right, Like the the the energy from people

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<v Speaker 1>who have money on a game when it and when

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<v Speaker 1>it goes a different way now, it'll keep people in

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<v Speaker 1>the stands for longer to wait for the games, and

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll make people watch games more. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm maybe. I don't know, because truth be told, if

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<v Speaker 1>you were betting on games before, you're betting on games now.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like they're reaching new people. It's just they're

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<v Speaker 1>creating legal ways to create tax dollars, right. I wonder though,

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<v Speaker 1>dougl I do gamble early and often M gamble responsibly everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but I am I get more like when I win,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like amazing, you know, you celebrate, but you never

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<v Speaker 1>want to get too high or too low on wins

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<v Speaker 1>or losses. I usually if I lose a big bet

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<v Speaker 1>and it happens. It happens to even the great ones

0:22:53.880 --> 0:22:56.600
<v Speaker 1>like myself and my family is in the vicinity. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>basically like, Okay, I'm gonna need some time here. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>can you you know, get away? And I will, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>isolate myself. I don't get like angry and want to

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<v Speaker 1>break stuff and fight people. You know that I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's not your personality, right, Like I will bet

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:13.400
<v Speaker 1>when you drink. When you drink, you're probably the happiest

0:23:13.440 --> 0:23:16.160
<v Speaker 1>guy on earth. Right, I'm always happy, dude, I'm an

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<v Speaker 1>understand You don't understand. But when you when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of drinks and you go on one of

0:23:20.480 --> 0:23:24.280
<v Speaker 1>your numerous vacations that you post on, right, are you are?

0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:28.440
<v Speaker 1>You're happy? Smiling, happy, I'm a happy guy. Yeah, they're okay, okay. Yeah,

0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 1>So imagine if we all know guys that underneath the

0:23:32.160 --> 0:23:34.960
<v Speaker 1>surface there's a lot of inner anger there, right, And

0:23:35.119 --> 0:23:37.639
<v Speaker 1>then you factor in that they're in a in a

0:23:37.720 --> 0:23:40.680
<v Speaker 1>bowl of ten thousand people at a basketball arena and

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<v Speaker 1>they just lost, you know, a thousand bucks that they

0:23:45.320 --> 0:23:48.440
<v Speaker 1>knew they were gonna win. And whether it's the ref

0:23:49.080 --> 0:23:51.600
<v Speaker 1>or a coach or a player, and then you got

0:23:51.680 --> 0:23:54.320
<v Speaker 1>guys around you and they don't give you the Hey man,

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:56.359
<v Speaker 1>I need a minute that no one gives you a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just telling you, Like, if you think fan behaviors

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<v Speaker 1>now bad, now legalized sports, sports betting, and and and

0:24:04.560 --> 0:24:07.320
<v Speaker 1>wait and it will be, It's something you have to

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<v Speaker 1>plan for. Sam Munston joins US lead NFL Eless for

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<v Speaker 1>Pro Football Focus. You can follow him on Twitter at

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<v Speaker 1>PFF Underscore Sam with Jason McIntyre. I'm dog got leibas

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<v Speaker 1>to Dan Patrick's show here on Fox Sports Radio. Sam, Sam,

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<v Speaker 1>Let's let's start with the Patriots discussion when we started

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<v Speaker 1>that today, which is, hey, what do they do here?

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<v Speaker 1>It does feel like mac Jones is closing in on

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<v Speaker 1>becoming the starter. And as much as everybody likes how

0:24:34.280 --> 0:24:37.360
<v Speaker 1>Cam Newton is handling himself in front of the microphone, like, look,

0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:39.160
<v Speaker 1>he's only making three and a half million, that's backup

0:24:39.240 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 1>quarterback money, But what do the numbers say? Like, how

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>can we statistically believe that Cam Newton can actually throw

0:24:46.560 --> 0:24:49.560
<v Speaker 1>a football and be a good enough quarterback this year? Yeah?

0:24:49.600 --> 0:24:53.119
<v Speaker 1>I think that preseason debut was really encouraging for mac Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>Um he graded well at PFF but he also when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at how they played that game for him,

0:24:58.960 --> 0:25:00.920
<v Speaker 1>it was almost like an audi. They sort of set

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<v Speaker 1>him up with various situations to see how he would fare,

0:25:04.440 --> 0:25:06.600
<v Speaker 1>and they had him run a drive with the hurry

0:25:06.680 --> 0:25:09.480
<v Speaker 1>up offense coming out of halftime and all those kinds

0:25:09.520 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 1>of things, and Jones calling card as a prospect was

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<v Speaker 1>just incredibly good mental processing. Just how quickly he's able

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<v Speaker 1>to execute the offense and work through his reads and

0:25:21.160 --> 0:25:23.960
<v Speaker 1>find the right guy and accurately deliver the past. And

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that's something that a lot of rookies struggle with when

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<v Speaker 1>you adjust to the NFL. It's it's a more expansive

0:25:29.960 --> 0:25:32.880
<v Speaker 1>offense generally in the NFL than it is in college.

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<v Speaker 1>There's more to learn, it's a lot to learn in

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<v Speaker 1>a short period of time, and you have to adjust

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<v Speaker 1>to the speed of the game as well. So usually

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<v Speaker 1>that's the area they struggle with and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 1>behind the eight ball. But Jones still look good, and

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<v Speaker 1>still look quick, and still look able to do all

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<v Speaker 1>of that and had a good command of the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So I still think, you know, Cam Newton is the

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<v Speaker 1>starter right now and probably will be Week one. But

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<v Speaker 1>as you said, Jones is closing, and that game I

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<v Speaker 1>think did a lot for the Patriots to sort of

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<v Speaker 1>assure them that, hey, this is on the horizon sooner

0:26:05.320 --> 0:26:08.120
<v Speaker 1>rather than later if we need to make that switch. Hey, Sam,

0:26:08.520 --> 0:26:10.320
<v Speaker 1>good to talk to you again. I want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>two gambling questions. Number one, on the New Orleans Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see any way possible that this is a

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<v Speaker 1>nine win team. I don't like anything about this roster

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<v Speaker 1>outside the offensive line. Hey, can you tell me why

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<v Speaker 1>the heck anybody would bet over on the Saints to

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<v Speaker 1>win nine or more games? And be I just need

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:31.240
<v Speaker 1>you to talk nicely about my guy, Sam, Zach Wilson,

0:26:31.320 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>the Mormon Mahomes. Yeah, over is tough for the Saints.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the roster has a lot of good

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<v Speaker 1>still there. They go on this roster overhaul and purge

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<v Speaker 1>every offseason because of the way they treat the cap,

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<v Speaker 1>but they always end up with a lot of talent

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<v Speaker 1>still there. And when you look at you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>defense still has a lot of good players. There's definitely

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<v Speaker 1>some question marks, you know. Cornerback number two opposite Marshall

0:26:55.440 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 1>and Lattimore is very much still in flux and obviously

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.360
<v Speaker 1>wide receiver or absent. Michael Thomas is a major question mark,

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<v Speaker 1>but they still have one of the best offensive lines

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFL. You've got guys like Alvin Kamara who

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<v Speaker 1>can still make plays. Their defensive front is really good,

0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:13.840
<v Speaker 1>so I think there's a lot of talent still there.

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.480
<v Speaker 1>But they don't have a quarterback and they don't have

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<v Speaker 1>any receivers for him to throw to. So over nine

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<v Speaker 1>is a pretty tough sell, even with a great coach

0:27:21.960 --> 0:27:25.600
<v Speaker 1>and some pretty good parts of that roster. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>Zack Wilson had one of the better debuts as well.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't ask him to do that much and he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play for that long, so we didn't get a huge,

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<v Speaker 1>extended sort of tryout. But he made it look effortless,

0:27:37.560 --> 0:27:40.119
<v Speaker 1>like that armed talent that we saw in college was

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<v Speaker 1>still there. He was able to flick passes with just

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>no concern. There was no delay, He just dropped back

0:27:46.080 --> 0:27:47.920
<v Speaker 1>in rhythm, fired the ball where it needs to go,

0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:51.440
<v Speaker 1>converted a couple of third downs, and looked really good

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<v Speaker 1>doing it. Whoa Sam months ago? He's the level of

0:27:54.960 --> 0:27:58.920
<v Speaker 1>excitement here from Jason's did a while dog. No, it

0:27:59.000 --> 0:28:02.159
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been three since they made the playoffs. Well, it's

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<v Speaker 1>been three years since you had another young quarterback that

0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 1>people were excited about. Then it was like three years

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:10.440
<v Speaker 1>before that where you're excited about where you were. And yeah, Sam,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.520
<v Speaker 1>I was at Rams camp last last week or two

0:28:14.520 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>weeks ago, whatever. I spent some time around the coaching

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:23.040
<v Speaker 1>staff and their level of excitement, evening even losing their

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<v Speaker 1>starting running back, their level of excitement is tangible with

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<v Speaker 1>having a guy who can make all the throws that

0:28:30.320 --> 0:28:35.479
<v Speaker 1>offense requires. Right, But look, they did lose their defensive

0:28:35.520 --> 0:28:38.200
<v Speaker 1>coordinator and Brandon Staley was now a head coach and

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:41.760
<v Speaker 1>did do an outstanding job, and they have reworked the

0:28:41.800 --> 0:28:44.760
<v Speaker 1>offensive line. But like right now, Darryl Henderson's going to

0:28:44.800 --> 0:28:48.080
<v Speaker 1>be their running back. And we haven't seen Matt Stafford

0:28:48.840 --> 0:28:51.280
<v Speaker 1>compete at the highest level of the NFL, Right'. It's

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:54.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a different game when you're you know, when everything

0:28:54.640 --> 0:28:57.800
<v Speaker 1>is magnified because you're playing is a favorite, not as

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<v Speaker 1>an underdog. What are your thoughts on what's reasonable to

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<v Speaker 1>expect from the Rams this year? Yeah, the expectations are

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<v Speaker 1>sky high and they feel maybe a little bit higher

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<v Speaker 1>than they should be. Stafford's definitely an upgrade over Jared Goff,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think there's a very real question about how

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<v Speaker 1>big an upgrade it actually is. I mean, Stafford has

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<v Speaker 1>never had a PFF grade above eighty two for a

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<v Speaker 1>full season, I think, and that's a good bit below

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<v Speaker 1>like the top quarterbacks in the NFL last season. Those

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<v Speaker 1>guys Mahomes, Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, even Josh Allen. Those

0:29:33.560 --> 0:29:37.000
<v Speaker 1>guys are above ninety Russell Wilson, and Stafford has never

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<v Speaker 1>hit that level. And Okay, you can sort of mitigate

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<v Speaker 1>some of it because he was on the Lions, and

0:29:42.920 --> 0:29:46.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, because he never had an offensive genius of

0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:49.560
<v Speaker 1>the head coach connected to him, but that only explains

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<v Speaker 1>so much. I think ultimately, like Stafford has always been

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<v Speaker 1>more potential and can do and the sort of threat

0:29:58.280 --> 0:30:00.560
<v Speaker 1>that he can target any area of the field at

0:30:00.600 --> 0:30:04.360
<v Speaker 1>any given time, then he has been the full realization

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<v Speaker 1>of everything he does on every single play. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think really the Rams are making this bet that, look,

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<v Speaker 1>we have a good thing going here. All we need

0:30:13.640 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 1>is a quarterback that can do a little bit more

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<v Speaker 1>when things don't go well. Like my Chum McVay is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of looking at this and saying, my system will

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:24.480
<v Speaker 1>get you most of the way there. And before now

0:30:24.600 --> 0:30:27.400
<v Speaker 1>I had this quarterback that was paint by numbers and

0:30:27.560 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 1>could fill in the right blocks with the right color.

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<v Speaker 1>But now I need a guy that can create the

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<v Speaker 1>picture when everything breaks down and when a defense actually

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<v Speaker 1>has some answers and there's some merit to that, Like

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<v Speaker 1>there's definitely value in that quality from Matthew Stafford, But

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think we know yet, like how big a

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<v Speaker 1>difference that's going to make, particularly as you said, because

0:30:48.600 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>the defense is probably going to be worse than it

0:30:50.880 --> 0:30:52.800
<v Speaker 1>was a year ago. So Stafford doesn't just need to

0:30:52.840 --> 0:30:56.040
<v Speaker 1>be better than Jared Goff, but he needs to overcome

0:30:56.440 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 1>the regression that we're probably going to see from the

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<v Speaker 1>defense as well. Fact or fiction always a fun game

0:31:03.360 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>to play. The Cleveland Browns are Super Bowl contenders. Fact.

0:31:08.600 --> 0:31:10.680
<v Speaker 1>If we didn't know that they were the Cleveland Browns,

0:31:10.800 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 1>we would be putting them up there with the Tampa

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>Bay Buccaneers, with the Kansas City Chiefs. But there's this

0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>lingering holdover effect from like twenty years of misery and

0:31:19.640 --> 0:31:22.560
<v Speaker 1>sadness and that giant jersey that's got like a hundred

0:31:22.640 --> 0:31:25.360
<v Speaker 1>names attached to it. If you didn't know the Browns

0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.240
<v Speaker 1>were the Browns. We would think this is arguably the

0:31:28.280 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>best roster in the NFL. Talk to bottom, Yeah, but

0:31:31.200 --> 0:31:33.760
<v Speaker 1>they have what eight new starters on defense? I mean

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:37.800
<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be a still some struggles on that for

0:31:37.920 --> 0:31:40.520
<v Speaker 1>that unit, right, Yeah. I think that will take some

0:31:40.640 --> 0:31:42.960
<v Speaker 1>time and that might not be as great as it

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:45.600
<v Speaker 1>looks on paper. But it's defense, right, and that's never

0:31:45.680 --> 0:31:49.320
<v Speaker 1>been less important in today's NFL. If the offense is firing,

0:31:49.680 --> 0:31:51.480
<v Speaker 1>you don't need a defense to be amazing. You just

0:31:51.560 --> 0:31:57.280
<v Speaker 1>needed not to get torched in the postseason. Yeah, okay, okay,

0:31:57.760 --> 0:32:00.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean you also need to be able to protect

0:32:00.880 --> 0:32:03.480
<v Speaker 1>your quarterback as well, Like the offensive line is incredibly important,

0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.240
<v Speaker 1>which does link back to the defense, and you're not

0:32:05.360 --> 0:32:07.960
<v Speaker 1>winning without defense. Let's let's get to the Dallas Cowboys.

0:32:08.840 --> 0:32:10.640
<v Speaker 1>How much concerns should we have over Dak and his

0:32:10.720 --> 0:32:15.640
<v Speaker 1>shoulder right now? Not a huge amount. We can only

0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of go on here to be hugely concerned. I

0:32:19.960 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>guess the longer and linger is, the more concerned you get,

0:32:22.840 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 1>because we saw last season exactly what happens when Dak

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:29.640
<v Speaker 1>Prescott isn't out there. I mean there's still a reasonable

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:35.000
<v Speaker 1>debate as to exactly how good Dak Prescott is ALAE offense.

0:32:35.080 --> 0:32:38.360
<v Speaker 1>If he isn't there, that system is not functioning. They're

0:32:38.400 --> 0:32:42.240
<v Speaker 1>not able to overcome the question marks on defense, and

0:32:42.640 --> 0:32:46.040
<v Speaker 1>Dallases isn't winning anything. So they need Dank Prescott out

0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:48.120
<v Speaker 1>there and one hundred percent healthy for as much of

0:32:48.160 --> 0:32:51.040
<v Speaker 1>the season as humanly possible. Sam, if I were to

0:32:51.120 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 1>give you fifty dollars and say, hey, Sam, you could

0:32:54.080 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want with this, but if you bet

0:32:56.720 --> 0:32:59.600
<v Speaker 1>it on the Buccaneers to go undefeated, I'll double your

0:32:59.640 --> 0:33:01.600
<v Speaker 1>money to make it one hundred. Do you think they

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:03.400
<v Speaker 1>have that would be a good bet? Would you take that?

0:33:03.480 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>Would you spend the fifty dollars that way? Or you

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>think there's just give me a break, Jason, Come on,

0:33:07.240 --> 0:33:09.600
<v Speaker 1>even though they're favored in all but one game, this

0:33:09.760 --> 0:33:13.680
<v Speaker 1>is lunacy. It's just so hard to go undefeated in

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.640
<v Speaker 1>the NFL that it's probably not a smart bet. Like

0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:20.280
<v Speaker 1>the pattern of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, says they're going

0:33:20.320 --> 0:33:22.080
<v Speaker 1>to be even better this year than they were a

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:25.760
<v Speaker 1>year ago, given you everything that happened last year. Tom

0:33:25.800 --> 0:33:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Brady planning all season on a torn neiligament, the lack

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.840
<v Speaker 1>of preseason, the fact that that was the first sort

0:33:32.840 --> 0:33:35.440
<v Speaker 1>of meeting of the minds between Tom Brady, who've been

0:33:35.480 --> 0:33:38.360
<v Speaker 1>in one system for twenty years and Bruce arians who

0:33:38.440 --> 0:33:41.760
<v Speaker 1>has a completely different system. How he performed in year

0:33:41.840 --> 0:33:45.000
<v Speaker 1>one was insane. That it took them sort of seven

0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:47.480
<v Speaker 1>eight games to get everything together and then they started

0:33:47.480 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 1>to cook down the stretch. None of those problems should

0:33:50.520 --> 0:33:54.239
<v Speaker 1>be there this year, and if they stay healthy, they

0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.880
<v Speaker 1>should be better than pretty much every team they face.

0:33:57.080 --> 0:33:59.400
<v Speaker 1>But that's not the way the NFL works. Guys are

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna get injury, something's gonna happen. You're gonna have a

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:05.920
<v Speaker 1>bad game. Everybody does at some point, and the chances

0:34:05.960 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>are you're gonna drop one sooner or later. Okay, the

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>team that you believe you already said the Cleveland Browns,

0:34:14.400 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Let's take Cleveland out of it. The team that you

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.880
<v Speaker 1>believe again on paper before injuries, going to have the

0:34:19.960 --> 0:34:24.880
<v Speaker 1>best year that we're not talking enough about is I

0:34:25.040 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>think there's a real chance Tennessee is very good this year.

0:34:29.040 --> 0:34:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I think it's hard to overstate just how big an

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<v Speaker 1>impact Julio Jones can have on at that offense. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they lost a couple of pieces, but Julio Jones adds

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<v Speaker 1>that back and then some like the threat of a

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<v Speaker 1>j Brown on one side resuscitated the career of Corey Davis,

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<v Speaker 1>which has been going nowhere. Corey Davis is good enough

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<v Speaker 1>that he can win against you know, number two corners

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<v Speaker 1>if nobody's really paying attention to him. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a Julio Jones and an AJ Brown on either side

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<v Speaker 1>of the formation. You've got Derrick Henry in the backfield.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Tannehill who's proven to be a good enough

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback to get the ball where it needs to go

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<v Speaker 1>and take advantage of those just physical freak superstars. If

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<v Speaker 1>that group stays healthy, that offense is going to be scary. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and that divisions terrible, right. I mean that we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know about the Colts, what they're gonna do it, what

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna do at quarterback. They're talented team, but quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>and without their best offensive linemen, we don't know how

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<v Speaker 1>they start the season. Well, who knows what's going to

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<v Speaker 1>happen with the Texans and Jacksonville's in rebuild. No, you're

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<v Speaker 1>one of a rebuild mode. Sam, great stuff man Awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>So overnight you woke up, and if you're an NBA fan,

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, oh, Joel Embiid signs a four year, one

0:36:42.000 --> 0:36:47.919
<v Speaker 1>hundred and ninety six million dollars max contract. Your immediate reaction, Jason,

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<v Speaker 1>is what that's a little risky, Doug. I'm one of

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<v Speaker 1>the few guys who has been team Ben Simmons in

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<v Speaker 1>the Ben Simmons verse Joel Embiid thing. I've always thought

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<v Speaker 1>I would rather build around wing guard type player. Ben Simmons,

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>an incredible defender, can literally play the one or the five.

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:07.640
<v Speaker 1>I know he doesn't love to play the five like

0:37:07.719 --> 0:37:10.839
<v Speaker 1>Anthony Davis, and not a This is not a flex

0:37:10.960 --> 0:37:14.160
<v Speaker 1>or a humble brag. Ben Simmons sometimes works out of

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<v Speaker 1>my gym when he's in LA and he's friendly with

0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:18.960
<v Speaker 1>a guy. I'm a good buddies with a trainer, and

0:37:19.120 --> 0:37:21.160
<v Speaker 1>I just know the Ben Simmons work ethic and I

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:23.360
<v Speaker 1>know he gets knocked for not wanting to shoot. But

0:37:24.120 --> 0:37:26.120
<v Speaker 1>everything I hear out of Ben Simmons is good dude,

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.719
<v Speaker 1>really solid guy, looks out for his people. Obviously, you

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:32.960
<v Speaker 1>know dating celebrities is a fun thing for him. But

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 1>this past postseason, I had to take I took an

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<v Speaker 1>l I said Okay, Ben Simmons has not shot the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>but I still would take him over. And because Mbid's

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<v Speaker 1>always hurt. I mean, as good as mbiad was last year, Okay, Doug,

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<v Speaker 1>he's still missed twenty games, like he's going to miss

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<v Speaker 1>twenty or more every single year. This is a massive

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<v Speaker 1>investment for the Sixers, and the way MBA took a

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<v Speaker 1>shot at Simmons after that lost Atlanta in Game seven.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, Joel Embid I think had eight turnovers

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<v Speaker 1>in Game seven, just filing that away for the great

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<v Speaker 1>Joel embiid Um. I personally don't love this deal, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what other options more he had. He's

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<v Speaker 1>basically got to back up the brinks, offer Maxi Simmons,

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<v Speaker 1>whatever else and get Dame Lillard and hope that that happens.

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<v Speaker 1>But I personally don't love this Joel embiid contract. For

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's always missing a ton of games, and

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<v Speaker 1>as a rich injury history, I think it's fair to

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<v Speaker 1>put to put. I mean, the injuries are the only

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<v Speaker 1>thing to hold you back, though, I mean, the guy's

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<v Speaker 1>probably the best most talented guy in the NBA, not

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<v Speaker 1>most talented big or overall player. I'm a player. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he's They just don't make human beings like that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Joel Embiad is seven feet tall, who can run the court,

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<v Speaker 1>defend the rim, guarding the perimeter, hit three, score in

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<v Speaker 1>the post, has incredible feet and doesn't Anthony Davis do

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<v Speaker 1>all of those things. And he's he's not as big,

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<v Speaker 1>he's not and he's not nearly the low post scorer,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's not Anthony Davis is. Look, he's very an

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<v Speaker 1>also very injury prone. There's some similarities there, although Anthony

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<v Speaker 1>Davis you'd probably say, maybe even more injury prone at times, um,

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<v Speaker 1>considering he hasn't had It's it's more like weird stuff

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<v Speaker 1>with Anthony Davis as opposed to feel more like major

0:39:19.680 --> 0:39:22.840
<v Speaker 1>injuries that he's coming back from for for Embeid. But regardless,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I I personally think Himbiad's better and younger

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.759
<v Speaker 1>and more talented like Joel Eid. How old do you

0:39:30.760 --> 0:39:33.840
<v Speaker 1>think Joel Embiad is not twenty eight? He's twenty eight

0:39:33.920 --> 0:39:37.920
<v Speaker 1>years old. I'm guessing I didn't google it. Okay, Um,

0:39:38.320 --> 0:39:41.200
<v Speaker 1>he's I mean, I think he's missed twenty twenty seven. Okay,

0:39:41.520 --> 0:39:43.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean He's like an old twenty seven though, right,

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<v Speaker 1>But you can say that, I mean, couldn't you say

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing about couldn't you just say the same

0:39:47.239 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 1>thing about about Anthony Davis. I would take a d

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<v Speaker 1>over Joel Embid I mean, plus Joel Embiid is like

0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of I don't know about Prima Donna, if that's

0:39:55.080 --> 0:39:57.120
<v Speaker 1>the right word. But my gosh, he gets in arguments

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<v Speaker 1>with guys all the time. He talks a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>trash um. Has he ever been like, was he the

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<v Speaker 1>best player on that team when they had Jimmy Butler

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<v Speaker 1>and lost in Game seven to Kawhi on the luckbox? Yes? Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They've gone downhill since Butler left, have

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<v Speaker 1>they not? I mean, tell me, the last time you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting you're crapping on Joel. You're kidding, you're crapping on Joel.

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<v Speaker 1>Ben Simmons was awful in the playoff. He was he was,

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<v Speaker 1>he was. He wouldn't look at the basket. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>and look I've I've I've gone through like that's a

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<v Speaker 1>buck in my college career. Like I've gone through it.

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<v Speaker 1>I understand how hard it is to come out of

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't heard those things shot through. I haven't. I haven't.

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't no idea, I haven't I at all. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>some but very very reluctantly. Yeah, he doesn't shoot Eddie,

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<v Speaker 1>you at least shot, I understand. But he couldn't make

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<v Speaker 1>a free throw. I mean like it's it's it's trending

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<v Speaker 1>the wrong way. I haven't heard that about Ben's I

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:52.640
<v Speaker 1>haven't heard. He's a bad guy but just doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>the reputation as a worker and went to work through it.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't play for the Australian Olympic team. Why because he

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<v Speaker 1>would have He probably would have come out the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have had to be a worker. He would

0:41:01.440 --> 0:41:04.359
<v Speaker 1>have a new girlfriend, that great host to that great

0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:08.880
<v Speaker 1>guess what you're if you WINBA playing in Australia or

0:41:08.960 --> 0:41:11.120
<v Speaker 1>not playing playing for Australa or not playing for Australia

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't hold you back from having a girlfriend, right, representing

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<v Speaker 1>your country, playing at the highest level. And by the

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<v Speaker 1>way they're probably saying, they're going, like, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>might have been able to beat Tim say if we

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<v Speaker 1>had Ben Simmons, maybe not, but but it definitely would

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:27.560
<v Speaker 1>have been worth Look. Joel Embiid is seven feet two

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.160
<v Speaker 1>hundred and eighty pounds. He shot the highest percentage from three.

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:33.720
<v Speaker 1>He shot eighty six in the line. Like, the dude's

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:36.520
<v Speaker 1>a bucket rand. He can defend the rim. He's really really,

0:41:36.600 --> 0:41:38.360
<v Speaker 1>really good. But at that time, out of time. But

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<v Speaker 1>can you win with a center, Doug in twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>a center as your most dominant player? Um? Or do

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>you need a wing? Yes, that's what happened with the

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.239
<v Speaker 1>with the Lakers. You need both. It's not one or

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.800
<v Speaker 1>the other. What's more important. You need a wing and

0:41:52.920 --> 0:41:55.080
<v Speaker 1>they don't have it. I mean they got Tobias Harris

0:41:55.200 --> 0:41:59.560
<v Speaker 1>on the wing. Like, come on, okay, so that's that.

0:41:59.640 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>You're going to trade Ben Simmons and you're gonna get

0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>better players around him, you know, But but Ben Simmons plays,

0:42:05.680 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 1>I mean, assuming Joe, you're gonna trade Ben Simon and

0:42:07.560 --> 0:42:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Joel and be put guys around him. Um. Now you

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:13.279
<v Speaker 1>said something we were talking earlier today. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>it next hour. You think the Clippers in their trade

0:42:17.000 --> 0:42:20.600
<v Speaker 1>yesterday have sold their soul to Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, it's

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:23.640
<v Speaker 1>I don't love it, man. The grit, the grit and grind,

0:42:23.680 --> 0:42:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, that's the Memphis Grizzlies deal, but they were.

0:42:26.719 --> 0:42:28.839
<v Speaker 1>They were the hustling Clippers a couple of years ago

0:42:28.880 --> 0:42:31.839
<v Speaker 1>with Pat Bev, lou Will, Montrese, Harold when they pushed

0:42:31.880 --> 0:42:34.759
<v Speaker 1>the Warriors to six the KD Warriors the greatest team

0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 1>in NBA history, Yes, the KD Curry Warriors. They were

0:42:37.920 --> 0:42:41.680
<v Speaker 1>the greatest. And that Clippers team's gone. That Clippers team

0:42:41.719 --> 0:42:44.800
<v Speaker 1>is there's no remnants of that really. Okay, it's basically,

0:42:45.680 --> 0:42:48.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, pretty boy, Kawhi and Paul George who don't

0:42:48.160 --> 0:42:51.600
<v Speaker 1>want to pay pretty boy. Yeah, he doesn't. Kawhi takes

0:42:51.640 --> 0:42:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of games off. He doesn't want to practice,

0:42:53.480 --> 0:42:55.399
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to put in the work in the game.

0:42:55.440 --> 0:42:57.640
<v Speaker 1>He shows up and he's incredible, but come on, man,

0:42:57.719 --> 0:42:59.160
<v Speaker 1>what are you talking about. He doesn't want to practice,

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:02.400
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't want to put in the work. Reports reports

0:43:02.440 --> 0:43:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that Kawhi Leonard would show up late to practice, or

0:43:04.680 --> 0:43:06.960
<v Speaker 1>the Clippers would call off practice and do whatever Kawhi

0:43:07.080 --> 0:43:11.800
<v Speaker 1>wanted because he's the franchise. Okay, so there's there's a

0:43:11.840 --> 0:43:15.279
<v Speaker 1>lot to unpack there. Ut. Yeah, I saw I saw

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.320
<v Speaker 1>you take a shot at me last week on social media.

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:20.200
<v Speaker 1>I saw it with what with watch Party, Kawhi is

0:43:20.200 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>not at number one. Yeah, you're literally the only human

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 1>being unearthed. No way. I will defend that next hour. Okay, okay, wait, we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll,

0:43:29.640 --> 0:43:32.840
<v Speaker 1>we'll get to Jason's terrible take about Leonard. He'll defend

0:43:32.880 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>the indefensible next, then the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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