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Speaker 1: Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. What a man?

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Speaker 1: What's up?

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Speaker 2: Now?

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Speaker 3: You make.

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Speaker 1: You what? I thought you were outside right now?

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Speaker 4: I was like, yeah, I'm outside, man, the basketball game on,

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Speaker 4: I'm in New Orleans and.

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Speaker 3: Even do adults ship like sit outside and have a drink.

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Speaker 1: I get the.

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Speaker 2: Look and he ain't even got no headphones on, Like

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Speaker 2: he just straightened like I'm out in the street. Out

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Speaker 2: you got your headphones?

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Speaker 1: I guess is you just found out about this?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 1: I don't like your headphones.

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Speaker 3: I don't like to be contained. Man, I'm an. I'm

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Speaker 3: ready to.

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Speaker 2: Fight Anthony Mackie and I barely know him. I'm sorry.

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Speaker 4: Welcome knowing Anthony Mackie.

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Speaker 1: Let us start. Is everyone rolling?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, not Anthony Mackie.

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Speaker 3: But no, I don't record. That's how he gets everybody.

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Speaker 3: I freaked.

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Speaker 5: Like, I can tell this is already gonna match our

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Speaker 5: our drunken Christmas episodes.

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Speaker 1: I can I can tell already.

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Speaker 5: Ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to another episode of Quest Love Supreme.

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Speaker 5: I'm your host Quest Love. We have Teams Supreme with

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Speaker 5: us unpaid bill. Hello, how's it going?

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Speaker 3: It's Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Everything's good.

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Speaker 5: You didn't tell us. You didn't tell us that we

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Speaker 5: got black muppets on the wall.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, black muppets. We haven't discussed black muppets. They're a

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Speaker 6: black muppets. Get into it.

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Speaker 1: Wait, nig I gotta pose.

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Speaker 5: I gotta pose the question like SNL Does that mean

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Speaker 5: all the other muppets are white?

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Speaker 1: Valid question? Can't answer that, per se, but it's a

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Speaker 1: really good question. Are you not allowed to answer that question?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 6: I mean probably, I haven't honestly thought about it, but

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Speaker 6: it's a good it's a good question. Are we recording

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Speaker 6: because I don't. I learned from Anthony Mackie. I don't record.

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Speaker 6: I just play free, free, living, free free.

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Speaker 1: So what's what's? What's?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 1: What's the puppies names? Eric and Travis or something?

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Speaker 2: No, come on, No, one of them got a real

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Speaker 2: black name. It's not real black, but it's black enough.

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Speaker 5: Not like name one of them. You gotta give him

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Speaker 5: like a North Philly named.

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Speaker 1: Please.

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Your girlfriend is your girlfriend of urban descent?

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Speaker 6: No, she's the producer of Sesame Street?

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: Is she of urban descent?

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Speaker 1: What is she black? His stepmother's Jamaican? Though, that's right?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 6: The names are Their names are Elijah and West, which

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Speaker 6: are not the blackest name.

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Speaker 1: Like Elijah's is kind.

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Speaker 2: Of yeah yeah, and they did Elijah shout out to

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Speaker 2: you know, Elijah rest in peace, Colorado Springs.

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Speaker 3: That's what's up.

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Speaker 4: I don't know about that. Somebody they want my my

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Speaker 4: my ex wanted to name O Son Wyatt and I

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Speaker 4: was literally about to go to jail.

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Speaker 2: And so you decided to name him Anthony Jr.

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Speaker 3: Oh you think I'm gonna name him?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was the last start in my mind. Right now,

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Speaker 5: he shadow a little question. What you think I named him?

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Speaker 3: Know, I'm from the South. You're gonna be a junior ship.

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Speaker 1: I see that, sugar Steve. How are we doing this week?

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Speaker 1: We're doing great. Nice to see everybody. Team Supreme. Anthony

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Speaker 1: Mackie so nice to see you.

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Speaker 3: What's up rich Man.

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Speaker 1: Students from Manhattan?

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, man, you look, I'm hype. I'm ready for this.

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Speaker 2: I'm ready to go in.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ready for about ten minutes. Girl going god you.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, I'm good man, I'm good. It's gonna be

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Speaker 1: fun episode. All right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I was about to say normally I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna astrew the long jown out episode.

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Speaker 1: Because there's really no need for this introduction.

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Speaker 5: I'll just say this much please eight Mile Brother, the

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Speaker 5: Brother Manturian candidate, She hate me, million dollar Baby, Eagle Eye,

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Speaker 5: the hurt Locker notorious nine catches Us, Abraham Lincoln, Detroit

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Speaker 5: Captain America win a Soldier Civil War. Also the hate

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Speaker 5: you give I didn't realize that was thug acronym.

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Speaker 1: I'll get that later. Black or white, Yeah, yeah, forgive me,

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Speaker 1: all right.

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Speaker 5: Anyway, The Night the Night Before Avengers at Man uh,

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Speaker 5: striking vibrs, black mirror episode, definitely all the way, the

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Speaker 5: Falcon Winter Soldier of course.

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Speaker 1: Dude, what about the Matt da.

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Speaker 3: In One Adjustment Bureau? Come on?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, okay, there was twelve more I was gonna name,

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Speaker 5: but fuck it. Ladies and gentlemen, we got on Quest

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Speaker 5: Love Supreme.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and we're recorded, Yes, we are recording. How are

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Speaker 1: you right now? Man?

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Speaker 3: I'm good, bro, I'm chilling.

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Speaker 4: I'm just living life, man, enjoying this unemployment game.

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Speaker 3: Shut up?

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Speaker 2: Your job is on TV every week. I don't know

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Speaker 2: what you're talking.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, you're everywhere. So how are you unemployed?

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Speaker 4: Well?

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Speaker 1: This minute you finish the job. You unemployed, Thank.

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Speaker 3: You, sir. There's one person here that knows how unemployment works.

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Speaker 5: There's one person here that also knows that you probably

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Speaker 5: have five other things lined up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean later, yeah, but right now I'm unemployed.

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Speaker 2: I get that you can actually file.

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Speaker 1: He's right.

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Speaker 2: I didn't think about it. Well.

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Speaker 3: I was told I can't file.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, I was about to say you can file.

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Speaker 3: I don't get a stemmy check.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you got your stimmy, dude.

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Speaker 2: You's a super fi super I was.

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Speaker 3: I was. I was gonna file for stemmy and they

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Speaker 3: told me I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that would be pretty fucked up of a country.

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Speaker 7: We let the falcon get a stemmy that's.

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Speaker 1: Incoming quality like a motherfucker? Where are you right? Where

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Speaker 1: are you right now?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 1: Probably the US?

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm in New Orleans downtown.

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Speaker 1: You are too boue, too blue knowlans Yeah seven.

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Speaker 3: World Basketballville hard head know that?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Else New York motherfuckers don't know how to deal with

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Speaker 4: that from you.

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Speaker 1: Saw the silence afterwards.

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Speaker 4: Everybody was like, uh, love you to Anthony, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I was just one and if all the New Orleans

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Speaker 2: All stars knew each other because we talked to Terrence

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Speaker 2: Blanchard in the last month, we talked to PJ. Moore

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Speaker 2: in Tank and everybody is still all the New Orleans

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Speaker 2: folks are in New Orleans. I'm like a lot of

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Speaker 2: other folks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, oh way, it's the best city in the world.

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Speaker 3: Why would you leave?

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Speaker 4: You get your You get European flavor, with the amenities

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Speaker 4: of America, with the best food in the world.

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Speaker 3: Why would you leave august Ship. Oh you don't like

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Speaker 3: being neked?

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Speaker 1: I don't work. Oh wait, what else besides the amount

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Speaker 1: of hurricanes and floods?

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Speaker 2: No, I just mean it be on fire, Anthony, right, yeah.

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Speaker 4: You getting the pool and your cat? How whatever your

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Speaker 4: casual is, wasn't getting the pool? My neighbors know me

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Speaker 4: through and through.

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Speaker 1: Oh why, I'm like, stop.

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Speaker 3: Looking over the fence. Dog just meant for you.

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Speaker 2: Stop looking over I'm not gonna make it through this.

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Speaker 5: I don't think, Oh my god, all right, I don't

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Speaker 5: even like I don't even feel like having a normal

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Speaker 5: ass interview.

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Speaker 2: Because but he deserves his flowers. So we you know,

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Speaker 2: we say, I think this.

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Speaker 1: Is our flowers moment. Yeah, man, for real.

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Speaker 3: Come on, I knew you too long. I'm gonna be good.

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Speaker 3: Go ahead, bro go ahead.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, you're good, You're straight.

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Speaker 2: I'm just waiting to get to this. She hate me conversations.

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Speaker 1: Oh, here we go. I want to start.

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Speaker 5: What's your what's your family situation in in New Orleans?

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Speaker 2: Like?

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Speaker 1: How many brothers and sisters or siblings?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Three? Three sisters, two brothers. We all live here.

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Speaker 4: You know, once you hear, but you always come back,

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Speaker 4: so you know, thankfully, knock on wood.

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Speaker 3: None of us have had COVID. But I'm the youngest.

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Speaker 3: I'm the youngest.

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Speaker 5: Okay, are they all artistically inclined or you're the only

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Speaker 4: I'm the only one they they came. Damn, if you

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Speaker 4: give him a menu to read, it'll be a disaster.

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Speaker 1: So what drew you to acting?

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Speaker 3: You know what a kid do.

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Speaker 4: And my teacher, you know, in the nineties, they wanted

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Speaker 4: my mom came to school and was like, yo, that's

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Speaker 4: a gateway drug. And I was like, what the fuck?

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Speaker 4: What like, what is it a gateway too? So then

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Speaker 4: I got scared and instead my my uh my third

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Speaker 4: good student, he just needs something to focus his attention.

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Speaker 4: So she had me auditioned for the talented and theater

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Speaker 4: program and after that I never had another problem.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I had some amazing teachers in my life every

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Speaker 7: And these all teachers in New Orleans. So they had

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Speaker 7: a Yeah, because we heard about music. I heard a

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Speaker 7: lot about the music in New Orleans. But what's the

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Speaker 7: kind of drama acting scene like locally?

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Speaker 4: I mean there's Look, the acting scene is great. You know,

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Speaker 4: we have a we have theaters here, we have theater

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Speaker 4: groups here. You know, we've the just the art scene

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Speaker 4: in generals. You know, if you look at the Marty

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Speaker 4: Brow Indians, all of that is just performing.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: All of us are storytellings. You know, New Orleans is

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Speaker 4: a culture of storytelling. So you know, if you sit

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Speaker 4: down with Wynton Marcellus and Terrence Blanchet, you see them

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Speaker 4: dudes could tell a story that could wake up Debby.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's a part of the culture. Man's that's all

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Speaker 4: it is. Storytelling is a part of the culture. So

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Speaker 4: you know, everybody here is an actor, and they all, right, uh, your.

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Speaker 1: Parents, what were your what was your what were your parents? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 4: My mom was a housewife, dude, She just like chilled

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Speaker 4: and spanked all six of us.

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Speaker 3: And my dad was a contract you had a roof

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Speaker 3: and company me.

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Speaker 4: So you know, he with his education, became one of

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Speaker 4: the most successful businessmen in the city of New Orleans.

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Speaker 3: Just all of honesty and hustle.

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Speaker 4: It's literally like one of the most amazing stories you

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Speaker 3: You know, the amount of growth and prosperity and appreciation

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: My grandfather was a share crosser, you know, so you

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Speaker 4: know it was you know, It's just one of those

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Speaker 3: Who my grandfather was.

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Speaker 4: Like when I got in trouble, my dad used to say,

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Speaker 4: you know you were MACKI right, So you know, the

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Speaker 3: Even when I was a child.

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Speaker 4: Like when we went somewhere, I was never Anthony I

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Speaker 2: So it was already a standard set, and that standards

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Speaker 4: Oh definitely, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Yeah. That's why I'll

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Speaker 4: never use the N word on screen. That's why I

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Speaker 3: Yere you do. When I play a thug is a

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Speaker 4: I don't want to just be willing Nelly out here,

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Speaker 4: you know, acting like an idiot selling booty for carn Brek.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we didn't mention one of my favorite Anthony Mackie roles.

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Speaker 1: That imagery right there.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sorry, I.

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Speaker 1: Didn't mean that that was so much.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I've heard of selling booty.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you once said that to you and

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's somebody's grandmother's turn. Don't be out there selling

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Speaker 5: My version of that was don't be out there in

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Speaker 5: the corner selling wolf tickets.

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Speaker 1: We had wolf tickets. That was that ship too ticket?

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Speaker 1: What's that explain that? You know, like wolf tickets like bullshit?

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Speaker 1: Like you don't be acting fool wolf tickets ship be right,

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Speaker 5: Check you can't cash, you know, Bill, Bill, My dad

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Speaker 5: was the type of person. Yes, like his goal in life,

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Speaker 5: you know, like Chris Rock says, like keep your daughter

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Speaker 5: to keep me from going on the corner selling wolf tickets?

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Speaker 1: What's the genesis of that? Saying? Though?

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Speaker 2: Who knows you're talking about? You want to find.

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Speaker 1: It come from?

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Speaker 5: I'm all right, we're recordings, all right, recording No, Now,

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Speaker 5: I got to look up wolf.

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Speaker 1: You know what?

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Speaker 4: It was some some old black dude got a dog

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Speaker 4: and painted him like a wolf and sell the tickets

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Speaker 4: to see his dog, and everybody when they saw it

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Speaker 4: wasn't a wolf that was the origin.

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Speaker 2: And that it's improv ladies.

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Speaker 4: Up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, black history fact of the day fact.

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Speaker 2: So can I, mister love, can I just mention why

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Speaker 2: he's mentioning that role of playing thugs that just are

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Speaker 2: more deeper than what you think the inep No, I

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Speaker 2: was just gonna yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeahs yes,

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Speaker 2: that's it.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, wait a Bill to answer your question on urban dictionary,

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: The often cited urban dictionary.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well, yes, to try Uh, it's to try and

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Speaker 5: sell a lie, either to yourself or to others.

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Speaker 2: To yourself.

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Speaker 4: Where I'm from, that's called marriage. I'm happy.

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Speaker 1: Wow, let's go in divorce.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go in club.

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Speaker 2: Yes, club?

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Speaker 1: How long you how long you've been divorced? Matkiew you

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Speaker 1: are you back married?

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Speaker 3: Now?

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Speaker 1: Where are you at?

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Speaker 2: No? No?

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Speaker 4: No, no, no no, I've been divorced four years?

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Speaker 1: Four years? Okay, gotcha? What you say? Never again? Never, Anthony, Anthony,

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Speaker 1: that's me. You think you think you're doing again? Or

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Speaker 1: you are you good?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: You know what.

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Speaker 4: I'm good, bro, unless it's Oprah like I mean, unless

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Speaker 4: it's somebody like, unless it's Holly Berry.

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Speaker 2: You don't even man j Lo.

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Speaker 1: Come on, look at their history, and that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, it's perception, Anthony.

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Speaker 1: Your your favorite three? Are you doing this on purpose?

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Speaker 3: I want? I want, you know, drama in your relationship?

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Speaker 1: Michelle Obama?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but want cookie from good times?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I you know.

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Speaker 5: I think now, especially the age that we are now,

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Speaker 5: I think marriage is just finding somebody that you want

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Speaker 5: to that you want to die with, like you want

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Speaker 5: that's the person you want.

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Speaker 4: To you know what I think, it's finding somebody that's

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Speaker 4: nice like people nowadays just aren't.

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Speaker 3: And you meet people that unappreciative.

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Speaker 4: They're not nice no matter what it is, no matter

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Speaker 4: what you do for them, it's not enough, no matter what.

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Speaker 4: They always asking you for something like it's like, just

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Speaker 4: meet somebody that's nice. Like, Yo, I'm outside cutting grass.

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Speaker 4: You look hot. Let me bring you something to drink. Man,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, just be nice, like

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Speaker 4: take care of me the way you don't take care

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Speaker 4: of other motherfuckers. I know that's a hard idea to grasp,

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Speaker 4: but just being nice like you a week, go out

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Speaker 4: with your boys and like stuff.

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Speaker 3: Yo.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that stuff was loaded.

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Speaker 2: But come and take care of this when you finished

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Speaker 2: with your boys. You gotta you know, that's what you're

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Speaker 3: Don't worry about that, Okay when I leave you, When I.

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Speaker 2: Go out and you have fun with your boys, you

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Speaker 2: enjoy it. How that works?

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Speaker 1: Even have funds a loaded definition half money to.

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Speaker 2: Keep your to yourself.

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Speaker 1: No, that's it, you know, that's anonymous.

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Speaker 3: We sold.

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Speaker 4: Our idea of having fun is sitting around talking ship

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Speaker 4: about the stuff we did and having it ship.

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Speaker 5: You know, my idea of having fun is silence, exist,

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Speaker 5: don't don't be in the baby.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, raises away for a week and it's just.

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Speaker 2: Me talking ship.

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Speaker 1: I love silence. I love silence.

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Speaker 5: Okay, no, no, I just meant being in a relationship

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Speaker 5: is you know, I'm new. I mean we're in the

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Speaker 5: on our honeymoon phase. Like, how long has it been?

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Speaker 5: Has it been it too?

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Speaker 1: I don't hate her yet? Was it twenty two years?

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Speaker 1: Almost two years?

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Speaker 7: One of those years was a COVID year though, so

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Speaker 7: that's like a year on steroids.

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Speaker 1: That's like actually five years. Yeah, twenty twenty two years

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Speaker 1: for three years.

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Speaker 5: And I'm shocked that we survived COVID and so, you know,

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Speaker 5: because a lot everyone else didn't.

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Speaker 4: So they said, they said the divorce rate during COVID

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Speaker 4: you actually meet the person you.

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Speaker 2: Married, that part.

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's just strange everything exactly.

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Speaker 1: It's like, yo, be nice, be nice.

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Speaker 2: You gotta be nice to each.

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Speaker 3: I feel like that's fair, like just be nice.

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Speaker 2: It is, but it's harder than it sounds. It's just

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Speaker 2: it's like with some people.

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Speaker 3: For some people, yeah, for some people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, well there's nice, there's also honesty.

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Speaker 3: Mm hmm to me, you can lie to me, just

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Speaker 3: be nice.

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Speaker 4: Please lie to me, tell me I'm the prettiest moment.

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Speaker 4: I mean, please lie to me. Don't tell me the truth.

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Speaker 1: How am I going to segue to Juilliard after this conversation?

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Speaker 3: It's all lies.

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Speaker 1: It's all lies. Juilliard's lies. It's all lies.

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Speaker 2: He's in the middle of a monologue.

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Speaker 3: So you know, I thought this was the truth circle.

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Speaker 2: This circle, it is definitely a safe space, definitely a safe.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna be all over TMZ. Anthony Maggie said, with.

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Speaker 2: Y'all, they don't pay attention to quest Left Supremus tune Hurdy.

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Speaker 3: Trouble.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So how did you wind up at Juilliard?

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Speaker 3: You know, it was a funny story, man.

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Speaker 4: There was this actor from New Orleans saying, Wendel Pearce

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Speaker 4: and I met.

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Speaker 3: Him, Yes, when I was fourteen year old.

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Speaker 4: And when I met Wendell, Wendel showed up at school.

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Speaker 4: He had on a white linen suit. He was driving

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Speaker 4: a Porsche, a black push He had on a white

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Speaker 4: linen Hat.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I was like, that's the cleanest black dude I've

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And he gave a speech and I went up to

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Speaker 4: him afterwards and I was like, Yo, bro yo, whatever

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Speaker 4: you did, I'm gonna do wherever you went, I'm a go.

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Speaker 3: He goes, all right, youngster, go sit down. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: all right, bet bet So. I went to North Carolina

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Speaker 3: School of the Arts. He went to Noka. I went

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Speaker 3: to Nokas. He went to Juilliard. I went to Juilliard.

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Speaker 4: I went there just specifically because he went there because

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Speaker 4: And I had never seen a black dude speak so eloquently,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like the stuff that he

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Speaker 4: was the best part about waiting to say yeah.

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Speaker 3: They had two scenes yeah true.

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Speaker 2: That and wait and then y'all both ended up and

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Speaker 2: she hate me together exactly exactly.

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Speaker 1: She just wants to rust and she hates I don't.

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Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't. I was just saying

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Speaker 2: I would We'll go back to that you know, put

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Speaker 2: a pin in it. But I just thought that now.

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Speaker 5: You said that, you said that, and now I'm thinking ship.

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Speaker 5: So that made an impression. So you're saying, that's seeing

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Speaker 5: made an impression on you, and you were like, that's

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Speaker 5: what I want to that's what I want to do.

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Speaker 4: No, it was seeing him so clear because I didn't

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Speaker 4: even know he had the porch until I looked out

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Speaker 4: the window. And I'm not a porch dude, like if

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Speaker 4: he had pulled up in a classic Mustang out and

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Speaker 4: been like this guy is God, you know, but just

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Speaker 4: see him, seeing him speak about the arts and the

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Speaker 4: way his passion about the arts, and him being so clean, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, my dad was a contractor man.

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Speaker 3: My dad was a roofer. Every day my dad came home,

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Speaker 3: he got his I mean, he was like I had.

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Speaker 4: Never seen a dude that cleaned before, you know, And

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Speaker 4: it really it really changed my perception of what a

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00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 4: man was, because to me, a man was a dude

453
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 4: who went out and had dirt under his nails and

454
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 4: you know, bust his ass for his family and really

455
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 4: made sure that.

456
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 3: His house was an arm And I didn't know. I

457
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 3: thought only white dues could do that in a suit.

458
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Speaker 1: M Wow. See now damn, And you said that.

459
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 5: Now I'm all messed up because whenever I go to Philly, Yeah,

460
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Speaker 5: I I I purposely try to do the opposite, Like

461
00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,360
Speaker 5: I drive the bummy.

462
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 1: Car and the key.

463
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,119
Speaker 5: I'm trying to do this down the earth, blue collar

464
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 5: musician thing. And I thought that that would make more

465
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,480
Speaker 5: of an impression than you.

466
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Speaker 3: Know, I think was especially with kids. Kids want to see.

467
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 4: That's why like people in you know, everybody in the

468
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,480
Speaker 4: music industry and everybody who kids try to emulate, they.

469
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,639
Speaker 3: Try to emulate them because they look like they got it.

470
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,360
Speaker 1: Right.

471
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 4: That's why women, that's why you know, little girls are

472
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 4: asking for these you know, drag queen eyelashes because you know,

473
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 4: that's that's the idea becauld think that's the look of

474
00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 4: when you got it, you know. And my thing was

475
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 4: my dad had it, you know. But when I looked

476
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 4: at window, like I saw window and he had it.

477
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: Hm.

478
00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 4: You know, his education level, you know, everything about him, dude,

479
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,560
Speaker 4: like to this day, like I talked to him last

480
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 4: week before he left for Europe, and everything about this

481
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 4: dude just exudes confidence.

482
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 3: And success. You know, yeah, like if there's if there's

483
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 3: a generation of Latin X these black acts.

484
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 2: No, you're right, he definitely needs to get more flowers

485
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 2: out loud.

486
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 1: You're right.

487
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:05,680
Speaker 3: Yeah.

488
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 2: Can I ask you about that class of Juilliard because

489
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: it's interesting it seems like there's a slew of folks

490
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 2: that came out of Juilliard from your year and like

491
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 2: either the following or the pre like from I was

492
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: thinking about Nelson Ellis from True Blood to My Girl

493
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,600
Speaker 2: from Power, Uh, lawd, you know what I mean? Like,

494
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,120
Speaker 2: so can you talk about that and if y'all could

495
00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: connected and circle ever circle back in life?

496
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 3: I mean, of course, you know.

497
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Speaker 4: The great thing about it is our class was probably

498
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Speaker 4: the first well I would.

499
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Speaker 2: Say routinam Sorry, yes.

500
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 3: Rotina Wesley.

501
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,360
Speaker 4: Our class was definitely the first diverse class at Juilliard.

502
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:47,440
Speaker 3: We had five black people, we had a Native American,

503
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 3: we had an Asian. I mean twenty people, you know,

504
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 3: eight of us were from decent.

505
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 4: You know, so we were definitely the most the first

506
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 4: and the most diverse clas as at Julliard ever. And

507
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 4: because of that, we were able to do things that

508
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,239
Speaker 4: other classes weren't able to do. Like, I first got

509
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 4: recognition by playing Tupac off Bro and that was the

510
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 4: play we developed at Julliard.

511
00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 3: You know, we did that play at Juilliard first because

512
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 3: it was in the New York Times.

513
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 4: You know, who would expect Juliard students to be able

514
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 4: to do a play about Tupac? And I'm like, so,

515
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 4: why is acting the only career where you're limited by

516
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,840
Speaker 4: your level of education?

517
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 2: Like, the more that you have, the less.

518
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,680
Speaker 4: No no, no, no no. The more you have, the

519
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 4: less black you are.

520
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 2: The less black you are.

521
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 4: Thank you go ahead and say it, the less black

522
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,480
Speaker 4: you are. And that's the problem. That's the whole situation. Oh,

523
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:52,159
Speaker 4: that's the whole situation that really confuses me. You know,

524
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 4: if you're a black person with any substance, depth, and

525
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Speaker 4: weight you looked upon as fake, phony or not black.

526
00:25:59,080 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 3: That's crazy.

527
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,480
Speaker 4: There's been times when I've gone in auditions and they're like, yeah,

528
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,240
Speaker 4: you ain't black, you went too Julia, or.

529
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 3: I won't say the person's name who told me that.

530
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: But you know, that's happened to me a few times

531
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 4: in my career, you know, but we don't look at

532
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: it that way, And that's the sad scary part if

533
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 4: you went to Julia or now you're not real. We

534
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 4: got to go get somebody that shot seventeen people and

535
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,720
Speaker 4: can actually smoke weed on set.

536
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, some of them commercials messed that up. When

537
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 2: you see the commercials where the people are speaking that

538
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,920
Speaker 2: urban thing and then they do the behind the scenes

539
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 2: and they're speaking proper and you're like, I think those

540
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 2: kind of Yeah.

541
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 5: Can you talk about well, before before you started eight Mile,

542
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,520
Speaker 5: you were in a string of August Wilson place. Was

543
00:26:45,560 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 5: that just strictly for how did you get involved in

544
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 5: those projects?

545
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: Were they juliarp or later?

546
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 3: Or was this no?

547
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,480
Speaker 4: No, no, no, no no, that was just out of love

548
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,719
Speaker 4: for August. I mean, you know, Piano Lesson was one

549
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 4: of the first place I saw and it literally changed

550
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 4: my life and changed my relationship with my father because

551
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 4: I didn't understand him until I saw Piano Lessons, you know.

552
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 4: So as a dear friend and someone who had a

553
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 4: lasting impact on my life, and that's why I named

554
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 4: my third son August, because of you know, his inability

555
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 4: to concede. You know, I mean, he did something no

556
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 4: other writer on earth is done. He documented a cultural uh,

557
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 4: he documented a culture of people for one hundred years.

558
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 4: Mm hm, and nobody gives them props. Nobody talks about it.

559
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 4: You know, it is heartbreaking at the same time, you know,

560
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 4: that's our fault.

561
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 2: So f folks giving props, but maybe not enough.

562
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 3: Maybe they gave him a stamp.

563
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 2: But it depends on what you feel like props are.

564
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 2: If you feel like, like, do you feel like the

565
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: black community knows who he is? Do you feel like

566
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: the world should know? In the world does, but the

567
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,879
Speaker 2: theater world knows. It's kind of It's interesting in that

568
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 2: way because I'm like, I feel like August Wilson has

569
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 2: been a part of the conversation for a while now,

570
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 2: depending on what you're talking about.

571
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,640
Speaker 3: He's been a part of the conversation now.

572
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 4: For I would say that piano lesson since No, No, No,

573
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 4: since Denzel. That's then all of a sudden, it's like, oh,

574
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,399
Speaker 4: we need to read this book. Oh, this should be requiring.

575
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: Oh and it's like, you know, when he was alive,

576
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: nobody gave him that They had been trying to make

577
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 4: a movie.

578
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 3: When he was alive. Yeah, you're right, you know what

579
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: I mean. So he deserves that man truth, you know,

580
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 3: for all tenements to be done.

581
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: What was it about the piano lesson that helps you

582
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: understand your dad?

583
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 4: I never realized the day to day struggles and hardships

584
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,680
Speaker 4: of a black man once he left the house.

585
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 3: At the time he got back to my house, you know.

586
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 4: My dad had the big borrow still fight and kill

587
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 4: to make sure our roof was over our head as kids,

588
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 4: and then he had to come home and deal with us.

589
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,960
Speaker 4: There was six of months and my mom and whoever

590
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 4: else was in the house, you know. And I always

591
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 4: thought he was just a mean old dude. I always

592
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 4: thought he was just a detached old dude. But no

593
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: a month like, I always wondered why my dad would

594
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 4: pull up to the house and sit in his truck

595
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 4: for thirty minutes before coming in.

596
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 7: So man, listen, I do it to this day, I

597
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 7: do it right the black man driveway sitting right now.

598
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: That is a real.

599
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 5: Thing, the only one in Loan Like sometimes you just

600
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 5: got sit in your car for twenty five minutes so

601
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 5: you can just I literally thought that was just.

602
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 1: Me, no, not alone, but that is us is And.

603
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 3: I never I never got that until I saw fences.

604
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 4: When I saw you know what, Troy Maxim had to

605
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 4: go through the hardships and decay that he had suffered,

606
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 4: the experience and bastardizing of his masculinity he went through every.

607
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 3: Day, and then he had to come home and deal

608
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 3: with his families, and.

609
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: Then his family had to come and deal with him.

610
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 4: That a man, that's a byproduct of everything that he

611
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 4: had to go through.

612
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Yes day, I thought about that when you were talking

613
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: about your father and Wendell Pierce, and I was like,

614
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: you know, not for nothing. It's a privilege. And even

615
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one, depending on how old you are,

616
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 2: it's a privilege to be like emotionally evolved and all

617
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: and all black men didn't have that privilege. And I

618
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: thought about your dad, and I was like, your dad

619
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 2: probably didn't have the privilege that Wendell had had to

620
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: be vulnerable to show emotion, to do the things that

621
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 2: required for you know, for acting and things, because I.

622
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: Don't know, Yeah, my dad, like I said, my dad

623
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 4: got kicked out of school in eighth grade. Like my dad,

624
00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 4: you know, was born in the forties, so it was

625
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 4: a different time, you know, we didn't, you know. Benjamin E. Mays,

626
00:30:57,320 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 4: who was the president of Morehouse College, said our grandparents

627
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 4: studied agriculture so that our parents can study math and science,

628
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 4: so that we can study arts and literate philosophy. Right, yeah, yeah,

629
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: my grandfather and now I think about that. My grandfather

630
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 4: was a sharecrop and Eddie was a contractor. And I'm

631
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 4: a fucking actor. That's lineage. So my dad took bullets

632
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 4: and my dad took so much shit just so I

633
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 4: can sit here and be a goofy dude, fucking actor,

634
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 4: just so I can sit around and taste the coffee

635
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 4: in a classroom, you know what I mean. So it's

636
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 4: just when you look at it that way, I can't

637
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 4: get in no movie and start talking about in word

638
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 4: this in word that. I can't get no movie and

639
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 4: jeopardize the legacy of my dad and my grandfather and

640
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 4: everything they put into me.

641
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 3: Hell no, you can't do that.

642
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 4: That's why when you when I see these T shirts,

643
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 4: you know, I am not my ancestors hashtag these hands.

644
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 7: Yeah, I see them online. It's it's corny, it's fucking cool.

645
00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 2: I am not my ancestor. There's that is opposite of

646
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: what black people should be saying.

647
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 4: That's one hundred percent, one hundred percent. But I mean

648
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 4: that's the generational thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, eyelashes and hookahs.

649
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 3: That's what I call.

650
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 2: How old is your oldest kid, Anthony?

651
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 3: Uh, fifty not fifty eight? Fifty eight?

652
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Okay, that's fine because I know, I know you're dealing

653
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 2: with it and whatever.

654
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: Whatever.

655
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: The ages every day, all day, TikTok the oldest kids,

656
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 3: he's eleven. I thought you said my oldest sister.

657
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 2: Oh no, okay, I thought you was joking, and you

658
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 2: would didn't want to tell.

659
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:37,719
Speaker 3: Me he's eleven.

660
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 2: Okay, we're good, okay. Me and you were cool?

661
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:40,920
Speaker 3: Okay, Oh girl.

662
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: So before y'all weren't cool, I thought aggressive exactly.

663
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 3: That fans just that fair.

664
00:32:57,160 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 5: So when you came to New York, did you when

665
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 5: did you officially start pounding the payment As far as

666
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 5: auditions are concerned with movies, Like, at what point did

667
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 5: you decide like, okay, I should get an agent, I

668
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 5: should do.

669
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 3: Movies, you know, going to Juilliard.

670
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 4: To be honest, the agents come to us, we have auditions,

671
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 4: and they invite all the agents.

672
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 2: Is there an active craft? I was about to say,

673
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: what does it look like? No, this is seriously fascinated

674
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 2: by Juilliard in especially I.

675
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 5: Got accepted to Juilliard and couldn't afford to go, So

676
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like living through you right now.

677
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: Well I think you uh, I think you did all right,

678
00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 3: So you're.

679
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 1: Singing that already agents come to see, like who's.

680
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 4: We do something called the consortium audition, and basically you

681
00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 4: prepare two scenes and they pair you up with someone

682
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 4: and the agents come.

683
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 3: They watch the scenes, and then we do a repertory season.

684
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 3: So the agents come and they're interested in you, and

685
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 3: they watch your plays in the repertory season. That's when

686
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 3: you get a meeting with whatever agent is interested in you.

687
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 4: Now, the interesting thing is some people get no agents

688
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 4: and some people get all the agents, so you know,

689
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 4: and then there are the people in between. I was

690
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:24,600
Speaker 4: one of those like in between people.

691
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 3: I didn't have a bunch of agents, but I didn't

692
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 3: have no agents.

693
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 4: But the agent that I got with, you know in

694
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,240
Speaker 4: two thousand and one, that's the same person.

695
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that's what's up? What is it about one thing?

696
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 7: I always wanted to know, what is it about Juilliard

697
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 7: that makes it such a great school?

698
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 1: And like, what did you learn? What are some of

699
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: the things you learned there about acting?

700
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,640
Speaker 7: That you still apply to your career today.

701
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 4: You know, the great thing about Julliard was at that

702
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 4: time there was no technique, Like, we didn't study Meisner,

703
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 4: we didn't study any of the acting techniques. We literally

704
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: they developed a curriculum where you built your character from

705
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: yourself and your life experiences. Then you layer things on

706
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 4: that character through movement. Then you layer things on that

707
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: character as far as the way he talks. Then you

708
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 4: layer things physicality onto that character, you know, prosthetics, hair wardrobe, whatever,

709
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 4: and then when you look in the mirror, it's a

710
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,240
Speaker 4: completely different person because he moves different, he sounds different,

711
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: he acts different than you do.

712
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: It was never an idea of technique, you know.

713
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 4: You know because you go to school from now on

714
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 4: your second year in you realize mais and it doesn't

715
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: work for you.

716
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 3: You have to start.

717
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 4: But if you start from yourself, you build from yourself,

718
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 4: you'll always be able to create an honest character because

719
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 4: you started with yourself.

720
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's from you, Yes, it was.

721
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 4: You know, And that's why you can always tell when

722
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 4: motherfucker's are acting. Like when you saw Bernie mack and life,

723
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:56,959
Speaker 4: he wasn't acting. He was that dude.

724
00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 3: You know, but there's a certain others.

725
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 4: There were certain other people who tried to imitate that,

726
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 4: and you can tell they were acting because they had

727
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 4: no substance background with that character.

728
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 2: You know.

729
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 4: Damn.

730
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 5: So when you get a role, uh uh do you

731
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 5: have to go through that process where you write a

732
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 5: six page biography of what your character was and you know,

733
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:32,360
Speaker 5: it's like I heard the exercise of writing a complete

734
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 5: biography of what your character.

735
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: Was born family, nobody, nobody do that. Ship the.

736
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 5: Quest is the show that everyone just knocks the.

737
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 1: Ship man.

738
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:57,280
Speaker 3: Like graduated.

739
00:36:58,719 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 1: A c K.

740
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 7: But I came here to act, right Dowsis statements ship Holly.

741
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: Actors do that though, so you don't, some dude.

742
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,240
Speaker 3: I for me is different.

743
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 4: The first thing I do is I read the script

744
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 4: and I break it down three three ways, because life

745
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 4: is about perception.

746
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 3: It's not about how you act. It's about how people

747
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 3: perceive your acts. So if I say it.

748
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 4: And I meant to sincerely, but you perceive it, it's sarcasting.

749
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 4: Your feelings are hurt, but I meant to sincerely. So

750
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 4: even though I was trying to be nice, it don't matter.

751
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 4: You took it as me being an asshole. So now

752
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,240
Speaker 4: in that reality, I'm an asshole because that's.

753
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Your perception versus intent.

754
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: There you go.

755
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 4: So that being said, when I get a script, I

756
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,160
Speaker 4: read it in three different perspectives. First, when I get

757
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 4: a script, I tell my agents don't tell me who

758
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 4: I'm playing, because you know, I want to read the

759
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: script for the story. If the story don't work, if

760
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: the characters don't work, I'm not doing it. So when

761
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: you read a script, you read it from the perspective

762
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 4: of the writer, which no character delineage is involved. Get

763
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 4: it from the perspective of your character, and then you

764
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 4: read it from the perspective of the other characters talking

765
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:21,720
Speaker 4: about you, and you highlight your three different colors because

766
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: then you know, if you're walking down the street and

767
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,759
Speaker 4: you're like, you know, you walk up to a girl

768
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 4: and you're like, hey, how you doing. That's when while

769
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:30,839
Speaker 4: you're walking down the street, they cut to two girls

770
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 4: across the street and they're like, look at that old

771
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 4: goofy motherfucker walking down the street.

772
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: So you know, you walking goofy, you don't look cool.

773
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: You look goofy, right right right right, So that affects

774
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: the way you walk. That affects the way you handle

775
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: that moment. So the best information you get in the

776
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 3: script is what the writer says about you. So if

777
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: you read a script from the writer's perspective and they

778
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: say he walk into a room, mug face, sullen, and

779
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 3: his first line is oh, I'm so hungry, you know

780
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 3: exactly the emotion to put on that line when you

781
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: say it, You know what I mean.

782
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 4: So you have the three different perspectives of how you

783
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 4: read the script. Then once I feel like I have

784
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 4: a grasping idea of the emotional state of the character,

785
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,880
Speaker 4: I find a piece of art, I find a song,

786
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 4: and I find clothing that I feel capture the essence.

787
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 3: Of the character. I always I buy a piece of

788
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 3: art for every movie I do.

789
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 7: What was the What was your in terms of you know,

790
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 7: you talk about finding yourself inside a character.

791
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: Where were you in your character for the hurt Locker?

792
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:32,399
Speaker 3: You know what?

793
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 4: The hurt Locker is a great question, hurt The hurt

794
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 4: Locker was interesting because for me, the racial.

795
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: Dynamic played everything about that you have a black.

796
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 4: So just trying to make it home to his family

797
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:45,759
Speaker 4: and trying to make it Who's trying to make his

798
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:46,880
Speaker 4: life better so he can.

799
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 3: Use his gi Biel and go to college. That's the

800
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: way I played it.

801
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: That's the character I developed because he wanted to go

802
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 4: to engineering school because if you look at Bond text,

803
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 4: they're very smart guys.

804
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, these guys go to be Georgia Tech, you

805
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 3: know what I mean.

806
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 4: He's a dude who went to undergraduate school and state school,

807
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,440
Speaker 4: went became a bomb tech, and now he's hoping to

808
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 4: get back home so he can go to MIT or

809
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 4: you know, Georgia Tech and become an engineer so he

810
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 4: can do better for his family. That's when he don't

811
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 4: have the privilege to come and goofall and do all

812
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 4: this shit like the white dude, you know. And once

813
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,120
Speaker 4: again it's an example of a white getting privilege just

814
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,320
Speaker 4: simply because of who he is. So that that arrogant,

815
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 4: that dynamic of frustration is what pushed sam Born to

816
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 4: the point where he was like, I might just kill

817
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 4: a sponsor. If it stands between me and him going home,

818
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 4: I will kill him.

819
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 7: How much of that for that particular movie, how much

820
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 7: of that is you bring into it versus what Catherine

821
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 7: is like kind of directing you to do.

822
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 4: Oh, that was one hundred percent my Juilliard experience. But

823
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 4: oh yeah, when I read that script, I was like,

824
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 4: this is Juliard. Yeah, I'm getting my ass kicked and

825
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 4: bust and work in my fucking ass off laying under

826
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 4: a piano so I can work on tune in my

827
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 4: ears so I could hear different accents and sounds.

828
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,240
Speaker 3: And this is mofuck. Ain't even bringing scenes in classes.

829
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,920
Speaker 3: He's the leader of late. He's the lead. And I

830
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 3: never got to lead my entire time was there. The

831
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 3: only time I got to lead when I was at

832
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 3: julia Art was when I created it. I get it.

833
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 3: I get it one time. Shame on you?

834
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: What was what?

835
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,080
Speaker 2: What was the song? What was your song? For hurt Locker?

836
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 1: What was it?

837
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: Remember you know what it was? What was it? I

838
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 3: the piece of art.

839
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:40,840
Speaker 4: I got a h Jacob Lawrence painting called Funeral Procession

840
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: in which literally took my whole herd Locker check here,

841
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 4: I mean, but it's as.

842
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 3: You can't you can't.

843
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 4: Note, you know I got a piece called Funeral Procession

844
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,320
Speaker 4: because you know when when I when I at that

845
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: piece and I thought about the dignity of this man

846
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 4: coming home and his mama taking him to church and

847
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,520
Speaker 4: saying look, my baby made it through the war. You

848
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 4: know how important is that to a soldier for his

849
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 4: mama to see her baby coming up the drive man?

850
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 2: You know the famous yeah, the house, Yeah, the whole

851
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: episode on it.

852
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 4: And the song. I can't remember the song. I remember

853
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,239
Speaker 4: it was a Tupac song because all I listened to

854
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 4: was Tupac, but I can't remember which one it was.

855
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 4: I'm sure it had a you know, motherfucker kicks ship. Now,

856
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 4: something about that.

857
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: Wenes I wish. I wish they would have known.

858
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 7: I wish they would have said something because in the

859
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 7: marketing for Notorious, because when I saw Notorious, and I

860
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 7: mean I had seen you in a lot of stuff,

861
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 7: proud of that, but I was like, yo, why did

862
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 7: they cast Anthony Mackie's pot Like that didn't make sense

863
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 7: to me. They gave you the backstory is yeah, but

864
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,080
Speaker 7: now what I'm hearing and something like damn, why didn't

865
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 7: they make it a little bit in the press but

866
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 7: not context?

867
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because because that would have set it up.

868
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 7: That would have set you up so much better, in

869
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 7: my opinion, just to give context as to why you

870
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 7: were playing that role.

871
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about Tac, because my first job.

872
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 4: Like I said, I played Tupac off Broadway and his

873
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,439
Speaker 4: mama came, and his sister came, and all his boys came,

874
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 4: and they were like, yo, you killed that ship. So

875
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 4: when they said that, nobody else's opinion matters. Like the

876
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 4: biggest thing, the biggest.

877
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 3: Thing I got from people about Notorious was he don't look.

878
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 4: Like And I'm like, if that's the only thing you

879
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 4: can say, then I won food.

880
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

881
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,440
Speaker 3: One if you can say, oh, he was good, but

882
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 3: it don't look like all right, fine, you go cast

883
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 3: somebody that looked like see how that was? Yeah, you

884
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying.

885
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 4: And they do that so much like they cast people

886
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,919
Speaker 4: that can sing and can act, and then you see

887
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 4: the movie and it's like, like, why didn't he just

888
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,240
Speaker 4: cast somebody who could act and dubbed the singers?

889
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: Uh, you're right, yep, you're right.

890
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 4: You know if all of us was Jennifer Hudson, she

891
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 4: wouldn't be special.

892
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 5: Can you talk about the process that led up to

893
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 5: what I'm assuming is your first film, which is eight Mile. Yeah,

894
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 5: at the time when it was presented to you.

895
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: Papa Doc. Yeah, at the time when it was presented

896
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: to you, did you.

897
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 5: Think that this would be Oscar caliber and critically acclaimed,

898
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 5: because even even when I heard about the rumors of

899
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 5: eight Mile happening, I think in my mind I just

900
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 5: filed it in the kind of somewhere in between Doctor

901
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 5: Dre's the Wash and the Brain. Yeah, Miss Voice. At

902
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,480
Speaker 5: the time, it's just like Eminem's doing a movie. Okay, cool,

903
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:02,840
Speaker 5: But you know, I was shocked that, you know, everyone

904
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:03,839
Speaker 5: it was it was.

905
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:06,880
Speaker 1: I was shocked that it was great.

906
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:12,480
Speaker 5: So you know, what was the process of of you

907
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 5: getting the role, like the audition process?

908
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 4: And well, the ironic thing was so I had just

909
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 4: got out of school. My first movie I did was

910
00:45:22,200 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 4: this movie called Brother or Brother, which to me is

911
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: some of the best acting or the best acting I've

912
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,479
Speaker 4: done in my career, which is sad to say because

913
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 4: it was my first fucking movie.

914
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: But now I'm going to ask you about that. I'm

915
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 1: going to ask you about that.

916
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 4: When I was doing Tubac off off Broadway at New

917
00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 4: York Theater Workshout, and this woman, Molly Finn, God Rest

918
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:44,720
Speaker 4: her soul, one of the best casting agents in the business,

919
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 4: came to see the play.

920
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: Because she was doing a movie about hip hop.

921
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 4: She came back stage afterwards and was like, you know,

922
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 4: I want you to audition for the movie.

923
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 3: She called my age Curtis.

924
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 4: So when I read the script, the script was very

925
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,720
Speaker 4: different than the way it is in the movie.

926
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 3: The script was very very.

927
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 4: Different, like Scott Silver like, we we completely rewrote that script,

928
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,919
Speaker 4: Eminem and Makaiya completely rewrote that script.

929
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 3: Every day before we walked on set. But it became

930
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 3: his truth.

931
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 4: You know, everything about that movie was truth, even his

932
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 4: battle against me, calling me Clarence because my parents had

933
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,760
Speaker 4: a good.

934
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 3: Marriage, I went to private school.

935
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:30,000
Speaker 1: You know.

936
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 5: He just used those facts from your actual life against

937
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 5: you and.

938
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 4: Wrote a rap about Wow. That's why I was so

939
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 4: mad at the end.

940
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:39,400
Speaker 3: I was like, am I gonna have to sneak in

941
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: anem on stage.

942
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 1: And you and you didn't know that he had written

943
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 1: that before. You didn't know it until you heard it.

944
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:51,399
Speaker 4: No, he came up to me before and he was like, yo,

945
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 4: you know, I just wanted to warn you, like there's

946
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: no reason for me not to like your character, Like

947
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 4: your character is a cool.

948
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 3: Dude, Like you a cool dude. I was like thanks.

949
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 3: He was like, so, you know, I went online got

950
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: some stuff, and you know, I wrote a rap. Hey,

951
00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 3: I wrote a rap and you know I'm gonna do

952
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: it when we, you know, get on stage.

953
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 1: I was like, that was a warning dope, man, that's

954
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 1: all you get. Wow, that's it.

955
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 4: Oh then he opened his fucking mouth and I was like, this.

956
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 1: Motherfucker, how many takes was that?

957
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 3: Uh? One?

958
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:33,719
Speaker 4: Because the crazy thing about the wrap back of the

959
00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: rap battle scene him and it was sick, so he

960
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,839
Speaker 4: couldn't do a lot of takes, so he literally did

961
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 4: it in one take and then after that it was

962
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: just like him lipping it and like doing the motions

963
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 4: and they would play it back on the speaker. But

964
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 4: the ship he did like that, And anybody will tell you.

965
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,840
Speaker 4: When we did that rap battle scene, they literally brought

966
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 4: in like three hundred people in this stage they built.

967
00:47:59,800 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: And.

968
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: They were and Detroit.

969
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 4: It was supposed to be the st Andrews, but this

970
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 4: was a room that they built on the stage, right,

971
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 4: So they bring us in there and everybody else was

972
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 4: like a budding rapper. So everybody was looking at me like, Yo,

973
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:17,919
Speaker 4: how the fuck they cast this dude to play a rapper?

974
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: Were gonna suck him up when we wrapped? And I'm like, uh,

975
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 4: we're acting sir, so.

976
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: We're acting. Curtis Hansen was like, Yo, you know.

977
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 4: We need some b roll of people rapping against him

978
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 4: and them so we can see him working his way

979
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 4: up the ladder of beating people. So we're gonna, you know,

980
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 4: we need six of you guys to come up in

981
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 4: freestyle against him. He's not gonna say anything because he's

982
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 4: feeling kind of the weather under the weather.

983
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 3: We just need footage of you, like rapping against him.

984
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,479
Speaker 4: So these six motherfuckers got up and the first dude

985
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 4: got up and was like, blah blah blah blah, you

986
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 4: suck blah blah blah, and the audience was like, yeah,

987
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 4: go yeah.

988
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: Second person got up and it was a little chick,

989
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,959
Speaker 3: and a little chick gave Eminem his lunch and when

990
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 3: she finished, the crowd went crazy. It was like a rap.

991
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: It was. It was the Apallo in this mock. It

992
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 3: was crazy. So then Eminem looked at the crowd and

993
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 3: looked at her and was like, nah, funk this. He

994
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 3: turned the mic and you see the little girl face like,

995
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:24,160
Speaker 3: what are you doing? You're not supposed to what do

996
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 3: you do? Yo? In off the domes heshit, I mean.

997
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: Literally he finished this girl to a point. I'm sure

998
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 4: she went and became a nurse and gave him.

999
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 3: And then the next dude gets up and he's like, oh,

1000
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:50,480
Speaker 3: ship Emine.

1001
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 4: Was like okay, and I like your rhymes.

1002
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:04,280
Speaker 5: So when when they were doing b roll were they

1003
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,120
Speaker 5: were they addressing him as rabbit but just kind of

1004
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 5: suddenly using uh emine references that you.

1005
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 4: Know exactly they were talking about because you know, they

1006
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 4: were talking about him as eminems but they were like, yo,

1007
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 4: you know when you talk about him, you know, talk

1008
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 4: about him as rabbit, not as eminem. So they're like

1009
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:25,879
Speaker 4: cool because you know, all these.

1010
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 3: Two really talented rappers, So they were just coming off

1011
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,720
Speaker 3: their head, like for freestyle ship.

1012
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 4: Man, Mike, that was it.

1013
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 3: It was it. It was dumb.

1014
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,320
Speaker 1: Did you did you not fear?

1015
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,720
Speaker 5: But were you concerned that you actually had to prep

1016
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,399
Speaker 5: as a freestyle MC to nail this role?

1017
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: I'll tell you, Like I told Curtis Hanson, I was like,

1018
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,279
Speaker 4: you give me a week, I could fly helicopter. So

1019
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 4: he was he was like, he was like, because when

1020
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 4: I first got the role, it's what was funny.

1021
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 3: I only had four lines.

1022
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:04,920
Speaker 4: And three singles, and I was only supposed to be

1023
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:08,200
Speaker 4: there a week, and the longer I was there, Curtis

1024
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 4: started developing a role because we got along together so well.

1025
00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: He started giving me more sings. Then he was like, yo,

1026
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:14,760
Speaker 4: can you stay longer?

1027
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,399
Speaker 3: I was like, hell, yeah, I ain't got no job.

1028
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 4: So I literally stayed there and then he comes up

1029
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 4: to me one day and he's like, yo, Anthony, can

1030
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: you rap? And I'm like yep, I'm like can you rap?

1031
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:42,080
Speaker 3: Can they read Shakespeare? Nor so?

1032
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 1: Wait? You wrote your rhyme during that battle?

1033
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 3: No, there was this uh, this uh freestyle rapper named Craigs.

1034
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:53,279
Speaker 1: He was the one that.

1035
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, we worked together and I gave him. I

1036
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,200
Speaker 3: gave him some ship and he took it and made

1037
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 3: it into a rap. Because when I did it, it

1038
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 3: was like, yo, yo, check it, check it.

1039
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 1: Yo, yo. That ship to get you killed in the battle,

1040
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 1: you got to come right off. You gotta come right

1041
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: off with it.

1042
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 2: It's like jumping.

1043
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:23,560
Speaker 1: Wait, can I ask is yo? Yo? Uh? The black

1044
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 1: version of well my name is done? And I'm here

1045
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: to say here to say right right straight up, stalling bro.

1046
00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:39,080
Speaker 4: I said, yo, check it for like sixteen balls. This

1047
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 4: motherfucker's like, all right, sit down. But he really, you know,

1048
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 4: we sat down for like forty five minutes and really

1049
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: crafted some ship where I could get you know, grid

1050
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 4: me in emotional with it and really show like the

1051
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 4: skills of Poppa Doc as a as a battle rap,

1052
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: as a freestyle wrapper. And you know, so I owe

1053
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 4: it all to him. I mean, if it wasn't him,

1054
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:01,879
Speaker 4: out looked like booty up him.

1055
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, so I have I have a question

1056
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,160
Speaker 5: about Brother the brother. So, of course, now in twenty

1057
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 5: twenty or twenty twenty one, we're slowly becoming more evolved

1058
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 5: when when dealing with people who are culturally different than

1059
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 5: the rest of the world. Your character was a homosexual

1060
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 5: in this film, so you know, I remember distinctly an

1061
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 5: interview that Will Smith gave in which he said that

1062
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 5: Denzel told him.

1063
00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 3: Right would end his career.

1064
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: Right.

1065
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 5: He gave him a warning about six degrees and said that,

1066
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 5: you know, be careful how you play this role because

1067
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 5: this could destroy your career where you know. Of course,

1068
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 5: now again we're inching towards being evolved as humans in

1069
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,600
Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, but back in two thousand and four

1070
00:53:54,840 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 5: we weren't quite there. So how difficult or or hard

1071
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 5: was it to accept this role as you're the first,

1072
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:05,759
Speaker 5: so technically you're saying that this is the first movie

1073
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 5: that you made, even though eight Mile came out first.

1074
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, So I asked for that role. The young

1075
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: man Rodney Evans, who wrote Brother to Brother, he offered

1076
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,440
Speaker 4: me the role of the poet that was played by

1077
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 4: Larry Gillier because he felt like you needed a gay

1078
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 4: man to play.

1079
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 3: The gay role.

1080
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,759
Speaker 4: He was like, you played Tupac, There's no way you

1081
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:28,840
Speaker 4: can play a gay character.

1082
00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 3: What. I went to Juilliard, So I literally said, I

1083
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 3: went to Julliard. I read a scene for him, and

1084
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,439
Speaker 3: he was like, all right, I'll give you the role.

1085
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 3: You can play the role.

1086
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,960
Speaker 4: And you know what was weird, Like when I was

1087
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Speaker 4: in school, I realized that I was a sexist homophobia.

1088
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, a whole black man in the nineties.

1089
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:57,760
Speaker 1: What made you realize that.

1090
00:54:59,120 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 3: There was this act?

1091
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 4: My freshman summer, I went to Chautauqua, New York to

1092
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 4: do a Shakespeare and I said something stupid about my gay.

1093
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: Teacher, and this other actor came up to me and

1094
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:15,200
Speaker 3: set me straight.

1095
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 4: You know, I just felt like less than a human

1096
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: being for even looking at it, think for thinking it

1097
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 4: was okay to look at another human being that.

1098
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 3: Way just because of their sexual preference. And I was ashamed.

1099
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 3: I was literally ashamed of myself.

1100
00:55:33,719 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 4: And it took me those three years to exercise that

1101
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 4: demon And the culmination of that was when I read

1102
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 4: brother or Brother, I look, look, if I'm an actor, you.

1103
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 2: Know, I.

1104
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,800
Speaker 4: Need to play this role so that I can understand

1105
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,839
Speaker 4: the day to day struggles or what a young gay

1106
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:49,600
Speaker 4: black man gohoes?

1107
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: And did that role help you understand that?

1108
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,720
Speaker 3: It changed my life. It changed my perspective on life.

1109
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 2: So talk about that in relation to your Black Mirror

1110
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 2: episode Striking Vipers, because that was like next level. It

1111
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:08,360
Speaker 2: was decades.

1112
00:56:08,000 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 1: Afterwards that also went in the direction I.

1113
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 2: Did not, and it didn't, but I was. I was

1114
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 2: so here for it because it was I mean, it's back.

1115
00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:18,080
Speaker 2: So it always makes you think differently and it always

1116
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: makes you think this shit could happen. So I was

1117
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 2: here for these two black men having this this beautiful moment.

1118
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what do you? What are you saying?

1119
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,920
Speaker 4: The idea of striking vipers, which was so funny. It's

1120
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,640
Speaker 4: the point of cential romance. Every dude would agree when

1121
00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,400
Speaker 4: you out with your boys and you're having a good

1122
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 4: time and your girl call, You're.

1123
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 3: Like, fuck, give me a minute, and you jumping.

1124
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,680
Speaker 1: At the top. They were out having with my boys, right,

1125
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:43,800
Speaker 1: I'm just killing.

1126
00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 3: And then she's like come home.

1127
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:46,879
Speaker 4: You're like, damn, I don't want to leave my boys

1128
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:50,040
Speaker 4: because I'm having so much fun, you know. So it's

1129
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 4: the same thing with Striking Vipers. It's just they took

1130
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 4: it in a virtual sense. And the funny thing about

1131
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: it was when I read for Striking Vipers, it was

1132
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 4: supposed to be two white dudes. Then the director was like,

1133
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 4: maybe it could be a white dude and a black dude,

1134
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:05,880
Speaker 4: and then one to the director. The director was like,

1135
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 4: I've of homosexuality in the black community. Wouldn't we fuck

1136
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 4: people up if we do it with two black dudes?

1137
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:14,320
Speaker 2: Yes?

1138
00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes?

1139
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 3: And I was like, yes you would.

1140
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 4: And he's like, I think black people need to see this,

1141
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 4: and I was like, yes, they do.

1142
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 3: Yes.

1143
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,840
Speaker 4: It was literally this little white European director who was like, Yo,

1144
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520
Speaker 4: I'm putting this shit out there on blacks.

1145
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 2: Yo, and the two actors and it's so dope too,

1146
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 2: because it could have been too perfect. Act as you

1147
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:35,919
Speaker 2: and y'a. I like, especially the perception and the roles

1148
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 2: that y'all have already paid in the past. So that's

1149
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 2: why that reaction with Fonte was probably how everybody felt

1150
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,320
Speaker 2: because they would have never imagined these two actors.

1151
00:57:44,400 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I didn't see that that episode going in

1152
00:57:46,560 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 1: that direction.

1153
00:57:47,480 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 4: Was sitting on in the airport and there was a

1154
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 4: dude sitting across from me playing his low like Nintendo switch, right,

1155
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:55,880
Speaker 4: So he's playing his switch and he looks up and

1156
00:57:55,880 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 4: he sees my face and he's like, yo.

1157
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 3: He turned his switched off and put it in his bag.

1158
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 2: Because because not for nothing have you have you heard

1159
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,080
Speaker 2: any feedback from any especially gay black man. I have

1160
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: a gay black brother that talks about this episode. He's

1161
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: a fan. He's a big marble head anyway, so he's

1162
00:58:19,520 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 2: Anny Mackie fan. But for him it meant something different

1163
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 2: as well. So I was curious if you got any

1164
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 2: feedback about that.

1165
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 1: You know, well, time out, time out, Time out, Margaret,

1166
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: you have a brother.

1167
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 2: A black you know, my play brother black people?

1168
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: All right?

1169
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 5: Good lies man. We all asked the question Wolf tickets

1170
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 5: and ship. You know, it was just five years into

1171
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 5: the show. I'm like, wait a minute, you have a brother,

1172
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:45,800
Speaker 5: you have a sibling right now?

1173
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,200
Speaker 2: No, all only children got a bunch of fake brothers

1174
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: and sisters. That's just what we do.

1175
00:58:49,360 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 1: Sorry.

1176
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 3: I only clean my own good And that's why I

1177
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,600
Speaker 3: did the episode because I expected that, like I okay,

1178
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: the conversation, the acknowledgement, the feedback, appreciation, and no, I

1179
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:04,640
Speaker 3: haven't got that at all.

1180
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 4: If anything, I've gotten the direct opposite.

1181
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: What do you mean, are black people watching Black Mirror?

1182
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,920
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's why it's called Black Mirror at least.

1183
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 2: At least at least a black museum. That was the

1184
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 2: whole Black Museum season.

1185
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:20,400
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah.

1186
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 2: But what was the other reaction that you've been getting?

1187
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 4: Just like, you know, a lot of negative no, oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

1188
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1189
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:38,240
Speaker 3: It's interesting the the the connotation of you know, negative

1190
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 3: feedback as far as you know, you know, questioning if

1191
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:45,400
Speaker 3: one I was gay, you know, their opinion of what

1192
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 3: homosexuality was, uh, their opinion of what.

1193
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:57,320
Speaker 4: You know it means, which is something I definitely expected

1194
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,800
Speaker 4: and was ready to question and strike down as soon

1195
00:59:59,840 --> 01:00:03,240
Speaker 4: as conversation came up. But I was just surprised by

1196
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: the fact that, you know, I went out there and

1197
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:08,680
Speaker 4: like nobody had my back.

1198
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:10,040
Speaker 2: Oh I got you.

1199
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah, yea yea yeah yah. I know

1200
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:14,200
Speaker 3: there are people out there that do.

1201
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 4: But there's been times where, you know, you gotta let

1202
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 4: somebody know that you're in the gym and you bench

1203
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:22,919
Speaker 4: pressing two twenty five fifteen times.

1204
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's been a few instances like that, you know.

1205
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I did not know. Well, I felt the

1206
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 2: way to that role. I felt the way of that role,

1207
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 2: especially for you.

1208
01:00:32,840 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 7: No, I really liked that episode. I didn't think there

1209
01:00:34,920 --> 01:00:36,120
Speaker 7: were being any neig feedback.

1210
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,480
Speaker 3: It was a great experience.

1211
01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:44,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, before we get to she hate Me,

1212
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 5: I do have to briefly ask, even though it wasn't

1213
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 5: a major.

1214
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Role, but.

1215
01:00:51,960 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 5: Could you talk about Manchurian Candidate and sort of like

1216
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,000
Speaker 5: the process of doing that and how was that for you?

1217
01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 3: Uh? Man cheering was hell on Earth?

1218
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:04,439
Speaker 4: I mean I was only there a few days because

1219
01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 4: I was doing another movie, and I literally did it

1220
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 4: just because I wanted to work with Jonathan Demi, you know,

1221
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 4: being an actor in New York. Jonathan Demi was at

1222
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 4: the you know, a god like a thing of folklore

1223
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 4: and legend. So you know, when when he because he

1224
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 4: knew me from theater and independent films in New York.

1225
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:27,240
Speaker 4: So he was like, you know, I'm doing this little

1226
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,480
Speaker 4: movie you know. You know, Denzel said, yes, so I

1227
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 4: have another role for you. I'm like, so, you know,

1228
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,280
Speaker 4: he brought me out. He's really he was really good.

1229
01:01:38,080 --> 01:01:41,280
Speaker 3: At casting people. He liked to be around people he

1230
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 3: considered friends. So it was it was more so the

1231
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 3: experience just to be on set with him and see

1232
01:01:47,840 --> 01:01:48,520
Speaker 3: him direct.

1233
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 4: But they didn't tell us we was gonna be in

1234
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,160
Speaker 4: New Jersey and two feet of snow in fucking January.

1235
01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 3: Trying to act like we were in the desert in

1236
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 3: shorts and T.

1237
01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 2: Shirts sounded like somebody, I'm y, hey take it.

1238
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:10,440
Speaker 7: Also, before before we before we had I just wanted

1239
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 7: before because I know you're about to go in Half Nelson. Man,

1240
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 7: that's one of my favorite roles of yours. I thought

1241
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 7: that script was very it was it.

1242
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 1: Was Yeah, that shi it was, it was. It was.

1243
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: It was a chance.

1244
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 7: I mean, it was risky, you know what I mean,

1245
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 7: because it could be interpreted in a lot of ways.

1246
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 7: But tell me about that role in like working with

1247
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 7: like Ryan Gosling and what was it like shooting at.

1248
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 4: Uh, you know, Half Nelson was dope. We literally shot

1249
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 4: that Belly of Brooklyn. And you know, working with Ryan

1250
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 4: at that time was interesting because he wasn't Ryan Gosling,

1251
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 4: you know, so he was taking chances and doing things

1252
01:02:46,320 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 4: in a different type of way. There was a different

1253
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 4: understanding of the way he was working, you know, and

1254
01:02:52,240 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: that movie made him put him on the map. And

1255
01:02:56,240 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 4: you know, for me growing up in the walls, like

1256
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 4: the drug dealers, I knew were the ones who took

1257
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 4: care of the neighborhood.

1258
01:03:03,560 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 3: They took care of the block. So if you were

1259
01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 3: a smart kid with good grades and you come out

1260
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,320
Speaker 3: and you're like, yo, I want to sell rocks, there

1261
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:12,919
Speaker 3: just ain't for you.

1262
01:03:12,920 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: You know.

1263
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:16,680
Speaker 3: So when I read that script, I talked to the

1264
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:21,080
Speaker 3: producer and Ryan Anna, who directed it, and I was like,

1265
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 3: this is this is this? I mean, he's taking care

1266
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 3: of this little chicken, making sure that she's you know,

1267
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 3: provided for and taking care of in a situation where

1268
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 3: she has no one.

1269
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,680
Speaker 4: You know, he's that dude that take care of the block.

1270
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 4: He's providing jobs and economic structure for his community when

1271
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 4: the government has basically bastardized them and condemned them to nothing.

1272
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 3: So that was that was something.

1273
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 4: I predicated on that role and wanted to, you know,

1274
01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 4: grow and mature that character into because I knew those dudes.

1275
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 3: I grew up with those dudes.

1276
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 4: You know when I needed when I wanted a pair

1277
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 4: of Jordan's and my mama wouldn't buy me Jordan's. Like,

1278
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:06,120
Speaker 4: you know, my my dude on the corner made sure

1279
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,040
Speaker 4: that we had George. Like when I had to take

1280
01:04:08,080 --> 01:04:09,920
Speaker 4: the bus at five thirty to make me to school

1281
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 4: by eight, my dude on the corner made sure I

1282
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:14,080
Speaker 4: didn't get beat up on my way to the bush. Wow.

1283
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 4: You know, so the drug dealers literally found out I

1284
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:18,800
Speaker 4: was a little artsy dud and they took care of me.

1285
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:20,760
Speaker 3: And I never got jumped on the way home.

1286
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:25,120
Speaker 4: Wow, Because if you stepped on if you stepped in

1287
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:28,440
Speaker 4: Basketowville and tried to steal up on me them boys,

1288
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:37,440
Speaker 4: was still you wouldn't come in the Basketowville talk Listen.

1289
01:04:37,480 --> 01:04:39,400
Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of are we already? We

1290
01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: had Spike Lee on the show. I told him She

1291
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 2: Hated Me was always an interesting movie for me, just

1292
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:47,760
Speaker 2: from the storyline of you and the ladies and impregnating them.

1293
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:49,440
Speaker 1: I said, Spikes midlife crisis.

1294
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you, and so

1295
01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: did his wife and his daughter. But listen my question

1296
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:57,320
Speaker 2: to you about she hated me outside of the draw

1297
01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:00,000
Speaker 2: of this phenomenal cast, because it should not be forgotten

1298
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: Lynett McGee, Jim Brown, Ozzie Davis, or the Window everybody,

1299
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,240
Speaker 2: everybody was in this movie, because I know that was

1300
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,919
Speaker 2: a draw. But really tell me, Anthony Mackie, when you

1301
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 2: read this script the way you do with your three layers, did.

1302
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: You read it three times?

1303
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,640
Speaker 2: What was the real draw of this script?

1304
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,040
Speaker 3: To be honest?

1305
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 4: Uh, Jeffrey Wright was offered she hated me and he

1306
01:05:22,640 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 4: turned it down. Reallyrio Dawphin and Jeffrey right, WHOA.

1307
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,440
Speaker 2: I didn't want to see him in that physical position

1308
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:30,760
Speaker 2: like you.

1309
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: I was.

1310
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:35,400
Speaker 4: I was working with Spike on so I hold the

1311
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:37,640
Speaker 4: record of being the lead of two Spike Lee movies.

1312
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:39,160
Speaker 3: Nobody saw it.

1313
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 4: Oh, show the movie the movie I was working on

1314
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 4: the Spike It was called Succer Free City.

1315
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 3: It was a movie we did Woman.

1316
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, I totally forgot about that one, but yeah, I

1317
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 7: saw it.

1318
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 3: So when we were doing Soccer Free City, Spike was like, Man,

1319
01:05:53,760 --> 01:05:56,240
Speaker 3: I got this movie War War Woman it's gonna be crazy.

1320
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 3: You know Jeffrey Wright most deaths, War War Ario. I'm like, bet,

1321
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 3: let me know when you need me.

1322
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 4: So two's later comes back, He's like, yo, my next project.

1323
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 4: Would you be interested in doing it? I'm like, hell yeah,

1324
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 4: I'll be interested in doing it. So the crazy thing

1325
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 4: was when I read the script to me, because of

1326
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:19,120
Speaker 4: Michael Janet wrote it, it read like a Shakespearean play.

1327
01:06:19,480 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 4: If you read a Shakespearean play, you have plot subplot,

1328
01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 4: you have four different storylines and they all culminate into

1329
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 4: one story.

1330
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 3: If you look as She Hated Me, it's really Shakespearean

1331
01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 3: in the way it's written.

1332
01:06:30,640 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 4: Because you have plot subplot, you have two or three

1333
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:37,840
Speaker 4: different storylines. And the crazy thing about it is people

1334
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,440
Speaker 4: say it was Spike's middle aged crisis.

1335
01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:41,920
Speaker 3: You know what was the.

1336
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 4: Cover of the New York Times magazine the week She

1337
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 4: Hated Me came out looking for mister good sperm women

1338
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:52,360
Speaker 4: over forty paying young men for sperm instead of going

1339
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 4: to sperm banks.

1340
01:06:54,280 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 3: But they and these women were rich in.

1341
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,360
Speaker 1: Connected, not even not.

1342
01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,600
Speaker 3: At all, not connected at all.

1343
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 4: And what was crazier this was the same time that

1344
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: that doctor had impregnated like one hundred and fifty.

1345
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:20,600
Speaker 1: With his own ship. It was timely.

1346
01:07:20,680 --> 01:07:23,840
Speaker 2: It was time even the subplots with the embezzlement and

1347
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:25,400
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but it.

1348
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:28,320
Speaker 3: Was just so it's easy. It's easy.

1349
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,040
Speaker 4: It's easy to say that, you know, a midlike risis

1350
01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 4: of a man or a man's dream, and a sexist

1351
01:07:34,640 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 4: connotation that men disrespecting.

1352
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:40,480
Speaker 3: But the reality of it is it was very timely

1353
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,080
Speaker 3: and on point.

1354
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: That's a nice.

1355
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:47,960
Speaker 1: Box.

1356
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,160
Speaker 7: I mean, I think too in that movie too. I mean,

1357
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 7: they were the thing I liked about it. I mean,

1358
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 7: both parties they were making a choice, you know what

1359
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 7: I'm saying.

1360
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:57,440
Speaker 1: It wasn't you know what I mean.

1361
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 7: It wasn't like there was this guy that, like you said, homie,

1362
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,520
Speaker 7: that was just giving women his own ship, unknowingly with

1363
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:04,680
Speaker 7: without their knowledge or whatever.

1364
01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: Both parties were consenting that this is what they wanted

1365
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:07,640
Speaker 1: to do.

1366
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: We live in a day and age where is okay.

1367
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:24,680
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, it's mandatory.

1368
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:27,519
Speaker 2: There are a lot of of me that enjoyed that movie.

1369
01:08:27,600 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: I just you.

1370
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 1: Know, I what did you didn't like about that?

1371
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: Was it?

1372
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:34,280
Speaker 2: That was? It was just always odd to me that

1373
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:37,360
Speaker 2: this man was having physical sex and they were enjoying

1374
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 2: it and these women were not queer women. They were

1375
01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:41,600
Speaker 2: supposed to be like straight up lesbians. So I was like,

1376
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 2: and well, did they not just ask this man for

1377
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: the turkey baser where they do that? But I I

1378
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 2: enjoyed the same.

1379
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:52,120
Speaker 1: Is it is?

1380
01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 2: It is it?

1381
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: Anthony was okay? At least was the original.

1382
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,800
Speaker 5: The original script well wound up on the final uh

1383
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 5: the final cut or where their adjustments made or.

1384
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 3: Well forciate me, Yeah, that was pretty much the original script.

1385
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,040
Speaker 4: I mean when I came on board, Michael had to

1386
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 4: change some things, but for the most part, that was

1387
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 4: the script I read. I mean it was pretty it

1388
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,760
Speaker 4: was pretty you know, when Spike comes on board, he

1389
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,520
Speaker 4: does his Spike isms.

1390
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,920
Speaker 3: But you know, it was it was pretty much the

1391
01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:27,639
Speaker 3: script I read.

1392
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: Now, this is why I love your journey, Like you're like,

1393
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 2: I loved watching your active journey because I don't know,

1394
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:35,439
Speaker 2: every role stood out and every role had a meaning

1395
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 2: and it was deeper than he thought. Same thing that

1396
01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:39,640
Speaker 2: what you're doing right now with the falcon, because I

1397
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,519
Speaker 2: was like, it's ill that the falcon is getting a

1398
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 2: little deep. I was like, you know what I'm saying.

1399
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,479
Speaker 2: You put a little Anthony on the falcon.

1400
01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,760
Speaker 7: Yeah, man, Yeah, we talk about Yeah, like how did

1401
01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:49,920
Speaker 7: you come into the Marvel universe? I mean, we know,

1402
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:55,240
Speaker 7: like the uh Terrence Howard he originally was uh no,

1403
01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:59,600
Speaker 7: that was don.

1404
01:09:56,720 --> 01:10:04,280
Speaker 4: That right, Yeah it was and iron Man won and then.

1405
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, became war Machine. But how did your journey come

1406
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:06,479
Speaker 1: into it?

1407
01:10:07,439 --> 01:10:10,719
Speaker 3: You know, my Marvel experience was very different.

1408
01:10:12,040 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 4: They came to me and uh I was asking them

1409
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,519
Speaker 4: to be a part of the Marvel universe around the

1410
01:10:18,520 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 4: time of Iron Man two iron Man three, and then

1411
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 4: they asked me to come out to la to have

1412
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 4: a meeting and uh literally we had lunch and they said, okay,

1413
01:10:28,600 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 4: we can't tell you what movie, we can't tell you

1414
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 4: what character, but if we asked you to be in

1415
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 4: the Marble universe, would you do it?

1416
01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:35,919
Speaker 2: And you said.

1417
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: Wait?

1418
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,680
Speaker 3: And I said would you? Would you want to tell

1419
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:43,559
Speaker 3: them about that gunline?

1420
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: Both Mississippi?

1421
01:10:49,680 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 2: Miss Who did you in a dream world? Don't any

1422
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sorry, but who would you have wanted to?

1423
01:10:58,000 --> 01:10:59,760
Speaker 2: Is there a a press?

1424
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 1: Did you want black Panther?

1425
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, yeah.

1426
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:05,360
Speaker 3: No no no no no.

1427
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 4: For me, it was either because I didn't think they

1428
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 4: were going to bring the Falcon into the fold for

1429
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 4: me when I was harassing them. I was harassing them

1430
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 4: about Black Panther because I thought that would for me.

1431
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 4: If you look up any press I did before they

1432
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 4: even announced it, I said very specifically that the movies

1433
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 4: they should do was Black Panther and Wonder Woman.

1434
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:31,599
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, okay, because.

1435
01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:33,720
Speaker 3: Little brown boys and girls need representation.

1436
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 5: How how steep how steep were you into the universe

1437
01:11:39,080 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 5: of Marvel before you actually got involved in the film.

1438
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 3: Oh not at all. I was never a comic book kid. Like.

1439
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: That's why it's so funny to me either.

1440
01:11:48,439 --> 01:11:50,559
Speaker 4: That's why it's so funny to me now when people say, oh,

1441
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 4: I'm a nerd, I freak. I'm like, if everybody was

1442
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 4: reading comic books, why didn't all the comic book stores

1443
01:11:55,439 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 4: go out of business?

1444
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 2: Lions the movie and they so Betty and Veronica in

1445
01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,759
Speaker 2: the grocery stores too.

1446
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:08,680
Speaker 3: But nobody was reading comic books.

1447
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,720
Speaker 5: In my five year history of this show. I was

1448
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 5: nervous about you coming on, only because I know that

1449
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:20,719
Speaker 5: there there's such a there's a contingent, or at least

1450
01:12:21,160 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 5: a certain fan base. You know those in San Diego,

1451
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:28,559
Speaker 5: what do you call them, comic connors? Yeah, that are

1452
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 5: so deep into the ship, and I I'm not. It's

1453
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:35,120
Speaker 5: not like I'm not a Marvel head. I just didn't

1454
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 5: grow up reading comic books and whatnot. I knew nothing

1455
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 5: about the Marvel. I didn't know it that deep. And

1456
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,120
Speaker 5: I was afraid. I was like, yo, if I have

1457
01:12:43,200 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 5: him on the show and don't ask him some deep

1458
01:12:45,240 --> 01:12:46,800
Speaker 5: easter a question that it's okay.

1459
01:12:46,800 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 2: I have notes. What do you need because I want

1460
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:50,360
Speaker 2: you to hurry and get your question because.

1461
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,760
Speaker 3: You have to. You have to look at comic I

1462
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 3: wish I could black you right now.

1463
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: You can't. You have to.

1464
01:12:58,280 --> 01:13:01,599
Speaker 3: You have to look at Comic Con this way. Every year, you.

1465
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:04,120
Speaker 4: Know, ten to fifteen thousand people go to San Diego

1466
01:13:04,200 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 4: for Comic Con.

1467
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 3: How many people are in America?

1468
01:13:09,040 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: Very true? But there, but Anthony, don't you agree there

1469
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 2: are levels of these people, Like, it's not just Comic

1470
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:17,679
Speaker 2: Con or a Mirror. There are like elite different levels

1471
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 2: in between Comic Con and a Mirror.

1472
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:24,720
Speaker 3: But I'm saying the whole thing of not at the bottom.

1473
01:13:25,120 --> 01:13:26,280
Speaker 1: I see these films.

1474
01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: Now, everybody you talk to grew up reading comic books

1475
01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 4: and knowing everything.

1476
01:13:32,680 --> 01:13:34,840
Speaker 3: About That's not true. That's not true.

1477
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 2: People get everyone has the Internet now, yeah, that's what

1478
01:13:38,240 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 2: it is.

1479
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:40,519
Speaker 1: Right now, you can.

1480
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:43,679
Speaker 7: Go back and read you can become a retroactive comic

1481
01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 7: book fan's right, or just.

1482
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: You read it?

1483
01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, show up the chick dressed as Layer

1484
01:13:52,920 --> 01:13:55,400
Speaker 4: at comic Con, you know, and they're trying to impress

1485
01:13:55,439 --> 01:13:58,599
Speaker 4: her by telling her about the Captain America Truth series.

1486
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 3: It's like, come on, stop it stop stop.

1487
01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: What is that process? Like? Like doing con?

1488
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 5: Like living up to an expectation of you know, having

1489
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 5: to go to comic Con and meet these you know,

1490
01:14:11,320 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 5: these trekky like nerds and whatnot, Like is it exhausting,

1491
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 5: Like do you have to do it in.

1492
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: The marble world or yeah, you definitely have to do it,

1493
01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: you know. But the big thing is it feels good

1494
01:14:26,360 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 4: to be appreciated. You know, you're so many as artists.

1495
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 4: How many times have you created something and put it

1496
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 4: out there and you know no one has reacted or responded.

1497
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:39,800
Speaker 3: To or even worse, you put something out there and

1498
01:14:39,960 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 3: motherfucker who's never made an album, A motherfucker has no

1499
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:46,760
Speaker 3: talent whatsoever. Say your shit sucks, right, you know, So

1500
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:47,360
Speaker 3: it feels good.

1501
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 4: Imagine every time you put something out you know, motherfucker, Like, yo,

1502
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 4: this is the best shit ever.

1503
01:14:52,720 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 5: Yeah, but okay, I have my version of comic Con

1504
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,880
Speaker 5: and that's called Okay Player.

1505
01:14:57,400 --> 01:15:01,000
Speaker 1: Yeah that a for real for real if no.

1506
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 5: But it's it's like it's there's there's a danger in that.

1507
01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 5: I feel like there's a dance. I know you're saying

1508
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:11,480
Speaker 5: that it's it's it's great to be loved and appreciating

1509
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,880
Speaker 5: da da da da. But then I just see comic

1510
01:15:14,920 --> 01:15:21,320
Speaker 5: Con people as like extreme level of nerdness and.

1511
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:22,560
Speaker 3: Not all.

1512
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: Like okay, yes it's music nerds. It's just yeah, that's

1513
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 2: what it is.

1514
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:33,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it's also a thing where on Okay Player,

1515
01:15:33,439 --> 01:15:37,920
Speaker 5: you know, uh, there's equal amount of hate and disdain

1516
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 5: and criticism for the roots in quest love as there

1517
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 5: is love, probably more than so.

1518
01:15:44,760 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1519
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 2: Well, for Marvel folks, I think it's more about the

1520
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 2: writers and what directions they go on with the characters,

1521
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 2: and that's when the fans get mad, depending on if

1522
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 2: they go off script. So that's how I work. That

1523
01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 2: being said, Anthony, can I ask you, one of my

1524
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,080
Speaker 2: Marvel heads wanted me to ask you, do you think

1525
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:02,120
Speaker 2: that the world was were ready for a black captain America.

1526
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,720
Speaker 3: Uh, what his role was?

1527
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 4: I think the idea of you know, was the world

1528
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:10,599
Speaker 4: ever ready for a green hawk?

1529
01:16:11,320 --> 01:16:11,559
Speaker 3: Right?

1530
01:16:12,280 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 4: You know it was never? How could you accept the

1531
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 4: green dude and not accept the black?

1532
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 2: You know, I guess because it's Captain America is such

1533
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: an institution and the way he's looked at it's different

1534
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 2: than a black panther, you know what I mean?

1535
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:26,840
Speaker 4: As I think, you know what, I'll be honest, I think,

1536
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:28,599
Speaker 4: like especially being do.

1537
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: You have kids? No, I know, Okay, one thing.

1538
01:16:33,720 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 4: I know about kids, and one thing I admire. Kids

1539
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:40,599
Speaker 4: aren't racists. Yeah, Like they're pretty open minded. We teach

1540
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 4: them racist. Right, So, if you're making a comic book

1541
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 4: for kids about a character, no matter what color he.

1542
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 3: Is, if he has cool power to right.

1543
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:54,160
Speaker 2: But that's assuming that they make all these things for kids,

1544
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:55,760
Speaker 2: like at this point, Marvel's an institution.

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Speaker 3: Right wait wait wait but the key.

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Speaker 4: Phrase at this point at this point, right, so you know,

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01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:06,800
Speaker 4: before you know, it was cool to be a quote

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01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 4: unquote nerd, before you know, comic cons and people dressing

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01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 4: up and doing cosplay. That was you know, books for

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01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 4: teenagers a kid you know, so if you present them

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01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 4: with a.

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01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,200
Speaker 3: Black Captain America. They'll grow up with a Black Captain America.

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01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,760
Speaker 3: They wouldn't know any different, So how could they not

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01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 3: be ready for something they don't even know. They don't

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01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,439
Speaker 3: even they wouldn't know anything as opposed to Black Captain America.

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01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:35,759
Speaker 3: What because nobody can playing when they made British Captain

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01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,559
Speaker 3: British America.

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01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah.

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Speaker 7: I always want to ask you about pain and game

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01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 7: paying the game bro, Like how bus did you have

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01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:47,760
Speaker 7: to like put on for that?

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01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 1: Like what was your training bridgement for that?

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01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:50,680
Speaker 3: I put on?

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01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 4: Like I went up to about two twenty okay, so

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01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 4: I was one before I started training for that, And

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01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 4: I just literally ate steak and potatoes in the morning

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01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 4: and six eggs and oatmeal for breakfast and it was dude, yeah,

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01:18:10,200 --> 01:18:12,720
Speaker 4: six no, six and six eggs and oat meals with

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01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 4: barriers for breakfast. And then lunch I would do like

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01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 4: a weight of masking and protein shake with a steak

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01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,679
Speaker 4: and some eggs, and then I would have like four

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01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 4: more meals because I was eating like thirty five cat.

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01:18:26,120 --> 01:18:28,919
Speaker 1: Good god man, what was that experience?

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01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:29,040
Speaker 3: Like?

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:30,479
Speaker 7: I liked that movie. I think I might be one

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01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:32,000
Speaker 7: of the only people that actually went up for that movie.

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01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,519
Speaker 7: I fuck with that movie. But but what was it

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01:18:34,600 --> 01:18:37,080
Speaker 7: like working with with Mark in the Rock?

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01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:38,880
Speaker 3: It was great, man.

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01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 4: You know what, Mark is one of the coolest dudes

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01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:44,840
Speaker 4: I've ever worked with, and you know, he really.

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01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:46,600
Speaker 3: Gave me an opportunity with that joint. We had a

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01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,280
Speaker 3: great time.

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01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 4: Like we literally every day came to set shot the ship,

1585
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 4: had fun. I mean it was like it was you know,

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01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 4: Michael Bay gave us the keys to the car and

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01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,720
Speaker 4: was like, be as ridiculous as you want to be.

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01:18:59,560 --> 01:18:59,880
Speaker 1: Wow.

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01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 2: I was going to ask you on some insider Marvel

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01:19:02,960 --> 01:19:05,600
Speaker 2: Baseball on the on the season two episode with the

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01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 2: young the older black Man, and the young Black Man.

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01:19:07,960 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 2: I heard those are actual Marvel characters. I was just

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01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 2: going to ask you if that was going to develop

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01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 2: into something.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, But Isaiah Bradley, a lot of people

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Speaker 3: Isaiah Isaiah.

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01:19:18,760 --> 01:19:23,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of people don't know that the Super

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01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 4: Soldier serum was originally was originally tested on Tuskegee soldiers

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01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 4: and it was a comic book that came out in

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Speaker 4: the early two thousands called The Truths, and Isaiah Bradley

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01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 4: was there was a limited run.

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01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: People like talked about it, so it.

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01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:47,880
Speaker 4: Went away, but the writer name was Morales, and he

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01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:53,200
Speaker 4: created this cartoon series where basically Isaiah Bradley and a

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01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:59,120
Speaker 4: bunch of Tuskegee soldiers were being injected with the simple

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01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 4: Search the super Soldier serum so that they can perfect it.

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01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:09,479
Speaker 4: And once they perfected it, they gave it to Steve Rogers.

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01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,040
Speaker 2: Wow, and so and so the rumor is that the

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01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 2: grandson is going to become a young Avenger.

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Speaker 4: I'm just no, that's that's that's from the comic book.

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01:20:20,360 --> 01:20:22,240
Speaker 3: One thing you have to, one thing you have to.

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01:20:22,280 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 4: Really, Marvel never takes the comic book's word for word,

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01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 4: note for note. So even if you look at the

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,600
Speaker 4: comic book when Falcon first is introduced, he was a

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01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:31,479
Speaker 4: hustler from Marvel.

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01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 1: You know.

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01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,760
Speaker 4: So if you watch the movie The Falcons from Louisiana,

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01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 4: so you know, it's a completely different world. It's a

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01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:44,160
Speaker 4: completely different universe. So it's not something where they take

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01:20:44,200 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 4: the comic book word for word or.

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01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:48,120
Speaker 2: Note for And have you put any anthony into any

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01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:49,719
Speaker 2: of these storylines.

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01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:55,320
Speaker 4: No at all, because I didn't you know Malcolm Spellman,

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01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 4: our writer, you know him, and the Marvel crew and

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01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 4: carry our director.

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01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:01,960
Speaker 3: They were the.

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01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 4: Ones who came up with the storyline and ideas that

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01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,000
Speaker 4: came to me. It was like this we'll be thinking,

1629
01:21:06,600 --> 01:21:07,680
Speaker 4: so you know it wasn't me.

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01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:09,519
Speaker 2: It's dope.

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01:21:10,360 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 1: I have two questions and then we'll let you go.

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01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 5: One is about just the the the secretive process in

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01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:20,200
Speaker 5: the Marvel world, how airtight or Fort.

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01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 1: Knox light is.

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01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,280
Speaker 5: Is the the process of actually getting the physical script,

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01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 5: Like do they have to like hand deliver it to you?

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01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: Like is it?

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01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:30,960
Speaker 3: Yo? It's so crazy.

1639
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:36,000
Speaker 5: Matters if you lose your your your three piece or something.

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01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:39,400
Speaker 4: No matter where you are in the world, they send

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01:21:39,479 --> 01:21:44,120
Speaker 4: someone to come to you. You sign a letter saying

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01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 4: that you received it. That person turns around, goes back

1643
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 4: to the airport, gets on the airplane and flies.

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01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:49,960
Speaker 2: Back to La.

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01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: Wow.

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01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:52,040
Speaker 1: That's it. Okay.

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01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:54,519
Speaker 5: My final question is are you going to do any

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01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 5: for a raising into uh directing?

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01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,640
Speaker 4: Actually, I'm working on that now. I'm working there this

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01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:06,240
Speaker 4: story that I'm acquiring the rights to about this young

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01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 4: girl during civil rights who was the first person, the

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01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 4: first woman to sit on the sit on the bus

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01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 4: and not get up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Okay, nice, oh man, before we before we go, I

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Speaker 5: got it.

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01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,759
Speaker 7: I have to deliver this specially to be mad. Omar

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01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,960
Speaker 7: Dorsey wanted me to ask you, why is everyone already

1659
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 7: He said, why does everybody call you an asshole but

1660
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 7: they love him?

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01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 3: Because out here selling his booty for.

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Speaker 5: H That is another episode of quest Love of Supreme

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01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,400
Speaker 5: with Verity Backy Supreme.

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Speaker 1: You got dunked on, Bro, you got dunked on. I'm

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01:22:52,920 --> 01:23:00,679
Speaker 1: sorry and in the world, thank you, appreciate, We see you.

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Speaker 1: M's Love Supreme. I'll see you get your Wolf ticket.

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