1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stupidity, home of the greatest media mind ever 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:09,280 Speaker 1: to walk the planet. Okay, sure, here's the deal. 3 00:00:09,440 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: He's a true icon in every sense of the word. 4 00:00:12,720 --> 00:00:17,320 Speaker 1: He's loved and feared more than any being to Grace's planet. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,959 Speaker 1: There's got a man with a voice that sounds like 6 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Erry White and be. 7 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: Got say hey, let's do it. 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We are brought to you by DraftKings, 19 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: also brought to you by our friends at zip Recruiter. 20 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 3: Hiring again. Zip Recruiter finds top talent for you. Drive 21 00:01:11,680 --> 00:01:16,759 Speaker 3: for free at ZipRecruiter dot com slash stupod zip recruiter 22 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:19,319 Speaker 3: the smartest way to hire. 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 2: What's going on, Fellas. 24 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 4: You know, another week. How's it goings to guys? 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: How's it going? 26 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 5: I don't know. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: That's why I asked you, what's going on? Fellas? What 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 2: do you mean? 29 00:01:30,200 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 4: What's going on? Well? Metal world piece, I should say. 30 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 3: Metal world peace. It's actually very fair, Billy. I spend 31 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 3: more time with you than I spent with my wife. 32 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 3: I should know exactly what's going. 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 2: On with you. Let me sorry about that? Yeah, yeah, how. 34 00:01:43,800 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 4: Do you feel about that? 35 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 2: By the way, about what about spending more time with 36 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: you than I do with my wife? 37 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 4: Yeah? 38 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: Not great? Yeah? Same? 39 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,840 Speaker 5: I want I want a top three on how Billy 40 00:01:59,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 5: is better than your wife and how he's worse. 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,639 Speaker 2: Oh wow, oh wow. 42 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 3: He does for me, He does more for me than 43 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 3: my wife. He spends less of my money than my wife. 44 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 4: I spend none of your money. 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 5: I've never paid you. 46 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: I mean, uh, well, that's a great question, Mike, that 47 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 3: is it. He's way more organized. 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 5: I said three. I said three. Don't don't go get 49 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 5: in divorced. 50 00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: Now now rolling? 51 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, what's worse. 52 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 3: I don't think Billy appreciates me nearly as much as 53 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 3: my wife. 54 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 2: Although I do think he appreciates me. 55 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: I don't think Billy trusts me nearly as much as 56 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 3: my wife does, although that's earned. Yeah, okay, loyalty is 57 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 3: about a push, I think slightly towards Billy. Just wait, 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 3: wait till what what are you gonna do? 59 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 2: Just wait? 60 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 3: My wife's a lot more attractive. Yeah, oh wow, Yes, 61 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 3: why you're assaulted by that? I mean you're go looking guy, 62 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong, I mean certainly more attractive than you. 63 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 2: Mikey all, that's not hard. 64 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 5: I feel like Billy's as loyal as his options. 65 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, Mike gets it. 66 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 67 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 2: Anyway, we have meta world peace coming on. 68 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 3: This is very exciting, you know, Mike, you and I 69 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 3: are excited because he's from New York. He's a Saint 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 3: John's guy. I'm a Saint John's fan. He's a big 71 00:03:38,760 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: Knicks fan. 72 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 2: Did he play for the Knicks? Did that ever play? 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: He did? Right? 74 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 5: He was on a roster? 75 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's from New York. We're excited. 76 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: Just an interesting guy though, Yeah, he is a he's 77 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 3: an interesting guy, Billy. 78 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 2: How do you imagine this is gonna go? 79 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 3: Because the last time he was on our show, we 80 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 3: got a little contentious with him in levatory, which is 81 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 3: why he's coming on stupidity. 82 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: He wants nothing to do with Lematard. I like Meta. 83 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 4: I think it's gonna go well. 84 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 2: I like Meta too. 85 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 3: I'm just not certain because we've had him on so 86 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 3: many times over the last twenty years, sometimes great, sometimes 87 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: not so great. It's kind of hit or miss with 88 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 3: Metaworld Peace. But I'm interested to see where he's at 89 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:27,680 Speaker 3: in his life. So let's find out again, all right. 90 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 3: One of my favorite players of all time, one of 91 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 3: my favorite athletes of all time, Metaworld Peace with us. 92 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 2: He has a new podcast out. 93 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: Check out metas podcast Metaphorically Speaking, available now on podcast one. 94 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: Meta, why did you decide to get into the podcast game? 95 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 3: Man? 96 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 6: You know, I actually be nice to be here to guys. 97 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 6: You know, I actually had my podcast twenty fourteen. Okay, 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 6: I had a podcast called Metaphorically Speaking. We did about 99 00:04:55,839 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 6: four video shows about an hour long. We recorded it 100 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 6: and then we didn't really know how to distribute it 101 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:05,679 Speaker 6: from there, so we just put it in the can. 102 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 6: And then here we are twenty twenty one, and a 103 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 6: couple of my people it was like, hey's do a podcast. 104 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 6: I said, okay, let's do a podcast. And I was 105 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 6: like Oh well, I still got that name. Metaphorically speaking, 106 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 6: how about we. 107 00:05:17,839 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 5: Just use that? 108 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 6: And you know, these podcasts pretty much you just get 109 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 6: people on, you just talk about what they want to 110 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 6: talk about. Right where we are metaphorically speaking, we don't 111 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 6: really have like a theme, but you know, it is 112 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 6: what it is. 113 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 3: Do you talk about some of the things you want 114 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:37,599 Speaker 3: to talk about, not just what they want. 115 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: To talk about? 116 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 6: No, I do, like I'm actually interested in people, you know, 117 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 6: Like I was always when I was doing a podcast, 118 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,119 Speaker 6: it was actually you know, a platform where people could 119 00:05:46,640 --> 00:05:48,680 Speaker 6: kind of, you know, get their message out, obviously, but 120 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 6: I'm always interested in with other people doing. 121 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 5: So I actually did. 122 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,000 Speaker 6: I got a chance to talk to doctor Drew, I 123 00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,919 Speaker 6: got a chance to talk to Tyson, you know, and 124 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:00,560 Speaker 6: just like asking different fun. 125 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 3: Who's the person you haven't had on yet that you 126 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: would love to get on the podcast? 127 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 6: I mean, probably Celene Dion, Mary j Blige, s w V, 128 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 6: Doctor Degrassi, probably Joe Montana, He's stuff. 129 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: Billy, Why did you make that face when he said 130 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,800 Speaker 2: Celine Dion? Why did you make that face? 131 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 4: I didn't think Celine Dion would be at the top 132 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 4: of the list. I got to copy. 133 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, I you know, she's one of the 134 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 6: greatest vocalists we've ever seen. Whitney Houston is up there also, Uh, 135 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 6: you know, some of the greatest vocalists. And you know, 136 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,600 Speaker 6: if you love vocals, you love music, you love them, right, 137 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 6: So that's you know, music is just something we need 138 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 6: and she's at the chinnacle. 139 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 4: Celine Dion's Titanic song is actually what I will sing 140 00:06:58,600 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 4: a karaoke Sometimes I don't hit all the notes, but 141 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 4: I'm with you on that. Do you ever do that 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 4: at karaoke? Sing the Titanic song? 143 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 6: Certain songs I can't sing. That song is a song 144 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 6: that I can almost sing. 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,880 Speaker 4: I don't believe there's songs that we can't sing. I don't. 146 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 4: I don't buy that hole. I can't thing. I think 147 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 4: we could do it. 148 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 6: No, the's things you can't do, and I'm for sure 149 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 6: I can't sing certain songs. 150 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: Wait, so, madam, what is your go to karaoke song? 151 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 3: What is the song you go to? 152 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 2: Like? 153 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 5: I mean, you know that's a good pick. 154 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 6: Actually, I got to click on YouTube where I was 155 00:07:30,680 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 6: singing karaoke Selane on Rono Tesland on You have to 156 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 6: see it pop up on YouTube. 157 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 2: Really. 158 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, that seems like like I don't know, like people 159 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 3: always say when you're watching like American Idol, you don't 160 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 3: want to try to sing a Celine Dion song. You 161 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 3: don't want to try to sing a Whitney Houston song 162 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:49,920 Speaker 3: because you're going to embarrass yourself. 163 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised. I'm surprised that's the selection for you. 164 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 5: It was really bad. I embarrassed. 165 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: I want to hear you try it right now. But 166 00:07:57,920 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: who cares. 167 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 4: It's about having fun. It's about saying something that he 168 00:08:01,160 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 4: speaks to your soul. You know what I mean? 169 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 5: My dreams? I see you? 170 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, see you? 171 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 5: Is that new? 172 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 2: No? Wait, Billy, are you willing to try this together? 173 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: Of course? 174 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: I'm bringing up the lyrics right now. 175 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, this is so exciting. 176 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 3: I'm so excited. We'll get to your league in a second. 177 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: Get metaphortamoy, No. 178 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 2: You don't. 179 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 3: All right, So Billy is pulling up the lyrics for 180 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 3: us right now. This is fantastic. I'll sneak in a 181 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 3: basketball question, why Billy? Oh no, he has them, alright, 182 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 3: he has it all right, So forget it. Let's let's 183 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 3: forget about basketball for all right. 184 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 4: Meta do you know the lyrics or do you are 185 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 4: you looking them up? So we do like line to line. 186 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:50,200 Speaker 4: What do you want to do here? 187 00:08:50,480 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 5: I mean, let's just go as far as we can go. 188 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 4: Okay, all right, you can you can start all right. 189 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 5: Every night in my dreams, I see. 190 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 4: I feel you. That is how I know you go on. 191 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 5: Far across. 192 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 4: The distance and spaces between us. You have come to 193 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: show you. 194 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: Go on right the famous artest. 195 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go near. 196 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 5: Far where you are. 197 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 4: I believe that the heart does go on. 198 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 2: I love medic choreographing with his finger. Not a world. 199 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 3: Peace with us metaphorically speaking is the of the podcast. 200 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 3: Check it out wherever you get your podcasts available now 201 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: actually on podcast one. 202 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 2: What is going on with the league? You have a 203 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: X versus X Sports league. What's going on there? 204 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 5: This is great as a pro. 205 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 6: So we have an application where we have leagues and 206 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 6: we're launching our first pro league in Los Angeles as 207 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 6: a women's pro league and a men's pro league. Is 208 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:26,719 Speaker 6: on November fourteenth is the men's first men's game and 209 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 6: November sixteenth is the women's game. It's going to be 210 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 6: at the YMCA Mid Valley YMCA and Van Eyes on 211 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 6: the fourteenth, which is a Sunday, we started at about 212 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,719 Speaker 6: two pm. We go for about five hours, and then 213 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 6: on Tuesdays we started at about eight pm. For the 214 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 6: women's it'll be men's on Sundays, women's on Tuesdays. Then 215 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 6: come out, anybody can come out, bring your family, you know, 216 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 6: enjoy some good winter pro basketball. And one of my 217 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 6: goals is to bring pro basketball back to America. You know, 218 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 6: we do have obviously that's the big elephant in the world. 219 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 6: Then you have the G League, right, and then you 220 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 6: have a lot of other leagues, but overseas. It's something 221 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 6: that is big leagues overseas, but a lot of our 222 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 6: players here in America, they don't always want to go overseas, right, 223 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 6: So my goal is to get the support of America 224 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 6: and really support another local pro. 225 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 5: League, which I'm launching. I think it's going to be great. 226 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 6: It'd be a great pipeline to the G League, a 227 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 6: great pipeline you know, to the NBA hopefully and. 228 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 5: Then maybe some overseas teams. 229 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 6: But I do believe that right now we have an 230 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 6: opportunity right here in America to have some more pro sports, 231 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,719 Speaker 6: you know, the same way they have over overseas. 232 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 3: That's a good job out of it, you, Meta, that's 233 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: a great job out of you. Defensive Player of the 234 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: Year in two thousand and four, twenty ten NBA Champion. 235 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,079 Speaker 3: Let's start with the defense, because you were known as 236 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 3: one of the great defensive players ever. The toughest guy 237 00:11:56,360 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: for Metalworld Piece to defend was Blank. I probably gotta 238 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,480 Speaker 3: say Jordan he was the toughest, right, Okay, but your 239 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:05,480 Speaker 3: guard to Kobe, like. 240 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 5: Kobe I got in Lebron. 241 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 6: I just think Jordan was tough because he was He 242 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 6: was thirty eight years old for one and then he's 243 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 6: retired twice, came back and had forty against US one game. 244 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 6: And I played against him in the summertime a lot, 245 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 6: and I just don't recall anyone being that much of 246 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 6: a threat against me, even though guys played well against me, 247 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 6: and you know, played pretty good basketball, But Michael Jordan 248 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 6: was just different. 249 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 2: Did he talk shit to you or what? 250 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 5: Now? Mike never talked shit? Do you never talk trash? 251 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 6: And really I've never heard Mike say I see him 252 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 6: talk to other people. But you know, when I was 253 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 6: playing against Mike, I think, you know, Mike really didn't 254 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 6: expect someone like that to defend him. I don't think 255 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 6: he probably has some really great defenders. I'm not gonna 256 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,319 Speaker 6: downplay anybody, but I just remember Mike telling me come 257 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,959 Speaker 6: back to the gym when I was nineteen years old. 258 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 6: He's like, make sure you come back, make sure you 259 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 6: come back. And he wasn't teaching me how to play. 260 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 6: He wasn't getting me any tips. He liked the competitive nature. 261 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 6: It wasn't like he was saying, you know, hey, Ron, 262 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 6: do a jab step like this, shoot like this. There 263 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 6: was no mentorship. He wanted to challenge that challenge. I 264 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 6: was nineteen and I was and I was in his. 265 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 3: Ass because what I love about Metaworld piece is you 266 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 3: don't give a bleep who the guy is. You don't 267 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 3: give a shit. You're up in his face, and so 268 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 3: Michael wasn't. My guess is Michael was not used to that. 269 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 3: He was like, Hey, this kid ain't intimidated by me. 270 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 3: He ain't sweating me. He's up in my face trying 271 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: to gore bit. 272 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 6: I love my I just did those moments that I 273 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 6: had in the summertime. And then obviously you played against 274 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 6: him in an NBA. I mean, you can't pay for those moments. 275 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 6: As a kid, I looked up to Mike and to 276 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 6: be a you know, just to be in the same 277 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 6: room as Mike right as a kid, crazy crazy, right, 278 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 6: like it was just But then again, you know, I'm real, 279 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 6: I'm a real competitor, So I mean I didn't say much. 280 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 6: You know, I was grinding out there and he was 281 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 6: and you know, I didn't hear any trash talking, you 282 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But with that being said, it 283 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 6: wasn't like he wasn't playing well. He did play very well, and. 284 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 5: That's something I'll remember for, you know, for the rest 285 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 5: of my life. 286 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: Of the one of the many things I love about 287 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,400 Speaker 2: you is you could still see the kid inside you. 288 00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Even as you were telling that story. 289 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 3: You're still floored by the fact that you guarded Michael 290 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 3: Jordan and we're in the same room as. 291 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 6: In it's just crazy. I mean, I work my you know, 292 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 6: I'm still I'm a passionate guy. Yeah, with my emotions 293 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 6: on my sleeve sometimes and those moments like that, I mean, 294 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 6: we do evolve and we grow up. We're man, I'm 295 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 6: forty one years nineteen anymore. But there's certain things in 296 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 6: your life that you cherish. 297 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. 298 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 6: There's certain things, certain people you want to be like, yeah, 299 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 6: you still cherish, like people like Mike Tyson, like you know, 300 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 6: Excell Dion, like Michael Jordan, like Mary J. 301 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 5: Blige. 302 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 6: Like there's certain people that you still love and they 303 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 6: always make you feel the same way. 304 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 3: All right, So Michael didn't talk any trash to you 305 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 3: because he respected you. 306 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: That would be I don't know why he did. 307 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 5: I can't. I can't say that. 308 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: I just know because matter you weren't scared of him, 309 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 3: that would be my guest you weren't to get it. 310 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 3: But I'm wondering who was the best fresh talker in 311 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: the NBA when you played. 312 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 5: I gotta say Paul was an amazing trash talker, because 313 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 5: I mean, Paul paid. But I love Paul. 314 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 6: My brother had we got a little personal rivalry, of course, 315 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 6: but I love Paul. You know, I think he's the 316 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 6: best trash talker because when you're talking trash against me, 317 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 6: you really got to back it up, right, You got 318 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 6: to be so ready to back it up, so you know, 319 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 6: it's really hard. A lot of nobody told trash me. 320 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 6: Kobe talked a couple of times because I started it, actually, 321 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 6: But you know, my brother Kobe had a lot of 322 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 6: people didn't tell trash me, not even really good players. 323 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 6: When I said, you know, I see them talking trash 324 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 6: to other people, But when I come on the gym, 325 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 6: it's a different look. 326 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 5: It's a different look. 327 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 3: When you say you started it, when you say you 328 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:00,720 Speaker 3: started it with Kobe. Like if as an example, like 329 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: what kind of shit were you talking to. 330 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 2: Kobe one day? 331 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 6: I knew he but Kobe's just so good, right, So 332 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 6: one day he came to him and I said, you 333 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 6: know what, you need to open your mouth and talk 334 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 6: a little trash because he's gonna get thirty and forty. 335 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 6: He's one of the few guys that was like gonna 336 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 6: get those numbers. And I'm like, I'm not going out silent, Sure, 337 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 6: I just just say something to him. I'm like, you know, 338 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 6: I just I told him he wasn't good. All this 339 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 6: stuff he still had. 340 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 3: Like forty, still had forty. 341 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: I would say, that's a good job out of you 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: if he just had forty. 343 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 5: Though, no, no, no, no, that's not that's not great. 344 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 5: Forty was not known for me. People don't score. 345 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 3: Forty, Okay, that's Fay listen. I know, I know how 346 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,840 Speaker 3: close you were with Kobe. I am wondering, and I 347 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: know you miss him dearly, and I think you know 348 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: sports fans across the world miss him dearly. 349 00:16:50,320 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: The lesson that the most valuable lesson. 350 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 3: You learned about how to live your life from Kobe 351 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 3: Bryant was blank. 352 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 5: Oh. Man, I would say he taught you a lot. 353 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 2: I know ro he did. 354 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 6: Man, he beyond basketball, right, do you see him work 355 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 6: on the court, then you see him work off the court. Know, 356 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:13,320 Speaker 6: you go to his office and you see his wizard nods? Serious? 357 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 6: I mean, was it no serious or wizard nod serious? 358 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 6: The books, you'll see him making the edits, his own edits, 359 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 6: seven books that didn't come out yet. 360 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:24,880 Speaker 5: You know, pages stacked. 361 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 6: I would say two feet high or foot and a 362 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 6: half high, seven different books. I mean, that's really impressive. 363 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 6: And then you see what Body Armor did this week, right, 364 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 6: Body Armorseel's for five billion dollars or whatever the case 365 00:17:40,280 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 6: may be. 366 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 5: He was. 367 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 6: He actually gave me and Julius Randa an opportunity to 368 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 6: invest in that deal in twenty fourteen. He was on 369 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 6: the back of the bus. But you know that those 370 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:57,880 Speaker 6: type of things he's a focused guy and he helped 371 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 6: me a lot with business, like just just talking him 372 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 6: and seeing what he's doing. 373 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:02,439 Speaker 5: Because I was a. 374 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 6: Guy where I put all my eggs like in passion. 375 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 6: You know, that's what my business was. My business was passion, right, 376 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 6: you know, I wasn't thinking about nothing else. And then 377 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 6: when my career is over, you and I had to 378 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 6: go back to my roots, which was math and architecture. 379 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 6: And then when I was trying to put it together 380 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 6: and how I can make a business out of it. Right, 381 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,159 Speaker 6: So from basketball, you know, to business, I think he 382 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 6: really you know, he helped me out tremendously. 383 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: Did you invest Did Julius invest? Oh? 384 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 5: Now, I don't know if Julius invest in body Allen. 385 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 5: Maybe he did, but I did. 386 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,200 Speaker 2: Are you surprised Julius randall has turned into this kind 387 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 2: of player. 388 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 6: No, I was working with Julius with the Lake and 389 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:41,040 Speaker 6: I'm not surprised. I was with Julius during his early 390 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 6: years at times, you know, we worked a lot. Then 391 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 6: he took it. He went to the next level. H 392 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 6: he has he he found the correct trainers that could 393 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 6: help him out. Uh he and now he's taken into 394 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 6: the next level. 395 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 5: On the court. I'm not surprised because like when I was. 396 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 6: Working with Julius, it was just he's moving too fasts, 397 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 6: that was it, really, and he didn't have a lot 398 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 6: of pivots, and he really didn't know how to maneuver, 399 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 6: you know, away from contact. He's a big boy, so 400 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 6: he always went the grind. But he's so athletic and 401 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 6: so quick and so smooth he don't really need to 402 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 6: bump all the time. And you see him now, you 403 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:21,640 Speaker 6: see that jump of just clicking going off the right, 404 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 6: going off the left Kobe. It looked like he learned 405 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 6: some stuff from Kobe. He's shooting three pointers all stuff. 406 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:30,600 Speaker 6: I'm not surprised. I'm really really happy. 407 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 3: Well, so what you're saying is like this is interesting, 408 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 3: fascinating to me. You're saying that he was moving too quickly. 409 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 3: So maybe the mind was moving a lot faster than 410 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 3: the body, and you just got him to slow down 411 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 3: and relax a little bit. 412 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 6: I'm not gonna say I did total all of that, 413 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:46,480 Speaker 6: but your help, but your help, right. 414 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 5: I helped out a little bit being in the gym, 415 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 5: you know, just talking. 416 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 6: And I'm really honored that I had the opportunity to 417 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 6: work with him, because now you see him playing well, 418 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 6: and he's a growing he's a man now, and he's 419 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 6: going to take that to the next level. His jumper 420 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 6: is looking really solid. And one of the things I 421 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 6: was always asking him to do practice how you play it, 422 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 6: you know, and that's a simple task, and you work 423 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:11,880 Speaker 6: on it and you. 424 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 5: Just do it. 425 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 6: And he has the skills and the talent, you know, 426 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 6: to be great, and now he's running with it, and 427 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 6: that jumper is just smooth as can be. 428 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 2: Matta. 429 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: I love that you take a great deal of pride 430 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 3: in helping people become a better version of themselves, whether 431 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:30,399 Speaker 3: it's athletically, whether it's on the court, off the court, 432 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 3: and giving people opportunity. 433 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 2: But you seem to really enjoy just helping people out. 434 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, for sure, for sure. 435 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 6: So you know, with that being said, I mean, I mean, 436 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 6: I think I had a natural instinct, you know, for coaching, 437 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 6: even when I was playing into my career. 438 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 5: I'm really competitive. When I was with the Knicks, I mean. 439 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:57,520 Speaker 6: Every practice, I was literally probably the last one to 440 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 6: leave a lot of the practices, but I was still 441 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 6: helping and mentoring, you know, minturning from a passionate perspective, 442 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 6: you know, from from a place of like playing one 443 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 6: on one. I played against him hardaway junior one on 444 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 6: one a lot. Those were grind out games played against Sean, 445 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 6: you know, played against Tyson even though he's both at 446 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 6: the end of my career. But we played every day, 447 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 6: you know, maybe every day actually crazy, you know, we played. 448 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 6: And then with the next playing against I mean, with 449 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,399 Speaker 6: the Lakers playing against Brandon Ingram, you know, and it 450 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 6: is more it's more a thing like let's play so 451 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 6: you could get better, you know what I'm saying. 452 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 5: And then also I need the grind. I'm not getting 453 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 5: the game, so I need. 454 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:40,959 Speaker 3: Check out his podcast metaphorically speaking, it is out right now. 455 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 2: Also X versus X Sports League. 456 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 3: I am wondering two thousand and three, what did Riley 457 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 3: say to you to get you all pissed off? 458 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: Like we're down here in South Florida. We love Riley. 459 00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 2: I'm wondering what he said to you. Don't say anything. 460 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 6: That game was real intense, you know, Pats Miami. That 461 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 6: was actually a rivalry building that could have been a 462 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 6: good rivalry, right, yes, yes, I mean imagine imagine me 463 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 6: and Duane Wade in the playoffs, I mean, he beat 464 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 6: him in the playoffs, but imagine a second run at 465 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,160 Speaker 6: the playoffs and. 466 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 5: Something. 467 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 2: It would have been great. It would have been it would. 468 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 5: Have been something anything. He didn't He didn't say nothing. 469 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 6: He was just the other guy askings, oh god, something. 470 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 5: Wait. 471 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 2: So Keith Askins, who sits on the bench and. 472 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: Does crosswood puzzles, actually got up and started talking to you. 473 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 5: I don't know if he's talking trash. 474 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 6: He might have said something that I was actually going 475 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 6: back to talk to him, and then Raley was right there. 476 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 5: Rally was like, hey, calm down. I'm like, hey, this 477 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 5: has nothing to do what you got my way. 478 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 3: But right, Riley seems like the kind of guy you 479 00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: would gravitate towards. 480 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:55,160 Speaker 2: Am I right? 481 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 5: I love Rally Rally? Of course I love right. 482 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: And here's what I love because I'm a Nick fan 483 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 3: and mikey a with a beard down in the corner there, 484 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 3: he is also a Nick fan. You're glowing because the 485 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: Knicks are back. Say it man, that the Knicks are back. 486 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 6: Right, I'm not going to tryfecta. I'm in a mix 487 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 6: between Lakers, Knicks and Paces. That's that's my triangle. I'm 488 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 6: sticking to the Triangle. 489 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 5: By the way, Phil Jackson, I am not a band 490 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 5: like everyone else. 491 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 2: What do you make of what Scottie Pippen said recently? 492 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 3: He's got a book oup talking about Jordan and Jordan's 493 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: basically Scotty has lived in that shadow, and I would 494 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 3: say that's a pretty good shadow to live in. 495 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 2: And perhaps Scotty should stop taking shots. 496 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,360 Speaker 3: To Jordan because the reason we remember Scotty is such 497 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 3: a great player is in part because of Michael Jordan. 498 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: They helped each other out. 499 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 6: Do you remember Michael Jordan? Is because Michael Jordan's, for one, 500 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 6: but also those marketing machines. Right, if you have a 501 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 6: Nike commercial in your face every single day, ron gonna 502 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 6: be like, oh well if they did that, a pipping 503 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 6: out of like, oh wow, Pippin, Right, I was. I 504 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 6: was interested in the best on the team. And but 505 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 6: with that being said, Scotty is competitive and the same 506 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 6: way Jordan gave that Hall of Fame speech and he 507 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 6: went at everyone, right, we are all competitive as humans, right, 508 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 6: some people are more competitive than others. 509 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 5: So Scotty Pippen is this is like his Hall of 510 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,720 Speaker 5: Fame speech, This is like He's. 511 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 6: Not going to go out like that, you know, in 512 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,399 Speaker 6: the light that he felt he didn't want to be 513 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 6: portrayed and he wanted to be portrayed as great. He 514 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 6: don't want to be in Michael Jordan's shadow. And Scotty didn't, 515 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 6: you know, he didn't executive produce or producer that the 516 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 6: last dance. You know, the producers did, and and they 517 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 6: probably didn't go to Scotty and say, Scotty, how do 518 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,479 Speaker 6: you want to be portrayed? Right, scott Without Scotty, you know, 519 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 6: maybe Mike only wins three. 520 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 5: We don't know. Yeah, you know what I'm saying, maybe 521 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 5: Mike only wins three or who knows. 522 00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 3: But that so you think Scotty earned and was it 523 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 3: should have been afforded the opportunity to have some say 524 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 3: and how that thing was portrayed. 525 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 2: I happen to agree with you. I think that's a 526 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: great take. 527 00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 5: Scottie Pippen. 528 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Scotty Pippen. 529 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 6: The only difference between Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan is 530 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,240 Speaker 6: obviously Michael Jordan's I think he's a better player, right, 531 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,679 Speaker 6: Obviously I believe mine's on a better player. But you know, 532 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:22,399 Speaker 6: Michael Jordan is a hell of businessman. And you know 533 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 6: a genius when it comes to marketing, and you see 534 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 6: how him and Nike partner on marketing is incredible. You know, 535 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 6: if Scotty was thinking along those lines when he played, 536 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 6: he could have had something incredible. Right, maybe he should 537 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 6: have signed with another company, because you know everything is 538 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 6: going to Michael Now went to Kobe's, he goes to 539 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,439 Speaker 6: Lebron right, Scotty didn't have the opportunity. So all the 540 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 6: stuff we're seeing in media is all Michael Jordan. Scotty 541 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 6: doesn't like that. I think he you know, I think 542 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 6: whoever produced that show should have called Scotty and said, 543 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 6: how do you want to be portrayed during your part? 544 00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 6: You know, it's like as a producer can say, okay, 545 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 6: we want you to look like this. You didn't play basketball. 546 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 6: You don't know how I feel, you know, I don't. 547 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 6: I don't really care about my high school, but I 548 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 6: did in high school. Around I'm in Augansas, Let's talk 549 00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 6: about something else. And I think I think that's where 550 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 6: they got it wrong. I'm a Scottie Pipper and Michael 551 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 6: Jordan's man. 552 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 2: The problem is the executive producer was Michael Jordan, So. 553 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 5: Was he really an executive producer. 554 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: I mean he had finals say on everything. So maybe 555 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,199 Speaker 2: a producer suggested, Hey, we should call Scottie. And Michael's like, 556 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing that. I'm good, I'm good. 557 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 6: No, I get I can see his frustration. And you know, 558 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:38,320 Speaker 6: I mean, if anybody could talk trash and Mike is Scottie. 559 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: It's Scotty. Yes, I'm in the same room. Let's get 560 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: them in the same room. I'm moderated. I'll do like this, right, 561 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 3: I'll be in between. Nobody gonna fight because I'm there, right, 562 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 3: So you know we did. We were just gonna talk 563 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: it out and let's see. Let's see these guys go 564 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 3: at it. 565 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 5: I love the world. 566 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: Piece is brokery piece. I love this. 567 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm not broken in peace. I wouldn't see the drama. 568 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 2: No, no, no, you're right, you're on the right bed there. 569 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 5: I think, honestly, I think those guys. I think I'm 570 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 5: gonna say this. 571 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 6: I think it would be entertaining to see those two 572 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 6: guys talk. 573 00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 3: I agree with you in the middle, with you moderating, 574 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 3: I would if you would, if you put out a 575 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: pay per view, I would pay money for it. I think, Billy, 576 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: if you put metaworld, peace in a room with Jordan 577 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 3: and Pippin and just you let them talk and who 578 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 3: knows where the hell it's gonna go. Okay, next thing, 579 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 3: you know, Jamal Tinsley's walking in. 580 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: With a broom. I'll get to that and think it. Billy, 581 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 2: you wouldn't watch. 582 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: That, Matta. If you ever get the chance, you need 583 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 4: to save it for metaphorically speaking obviously. 584 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a good point. 585 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 5: Yeah. I can't see Michael jordany coming on meta? 586 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: Why not? 587 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,399 Speaker 4: Who do you see coming on metaphor gally speaking? 588 00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 2: First? 589 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan or Celine Dion. 590 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 5: Maybe Michael Jordan's actually know I can maybe maybe maybe? Oh, 591 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,680 Speaker 5: out of those two, I had to pick one. 592 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, they're both such big stars. 593 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 4: Oh my god, Well have you met? 594 00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 6: Because I spoke to Michael twice on the phone in 595 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 6: my whole life, and and Selene they gave me tickets 596 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 6: to see her performed? 597 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 2: What what? How did that happen? 598 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 6: I was trying to go to a Selene Dion concert 599 00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 6: and I couldn't get in. I called my manager, I said, 600 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 6: can you please figure something out? And she knew I 601 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 6: was a fan because I was always talking about her. 602 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 6: And then boom, eight tickets. Oh goodness, it's eight tickets seat. 603 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 2: Oh my god, wait wait where where? 604 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 5: Oh we had good seats? 605 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 6: No, yeah, we had great seats, great seats like like 606 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 6: and you know, the top but like perfect view. 607 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 2: Did you get a chance to meet her? 608 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 5: I took a picture. Yeah, and she let us come 609 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 5: down after the show. I swear to you. 610 00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,479 Speaker 2: You met it. You showed up with no tickets and 611 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 2: got eight seats and got backstage. 612 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 5: Hey, listen, listen, listen. 613 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,959 Speaker 6: I was with all my dudes from the hood, like 614 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I'm all my dudes, like 615 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 6: my dude jail. 616 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 5: Time, all the right. 617 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 6: So, so so we go, they say, where are we going? 618 00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 6: I said, We're going to Celeine Beyond concert. So they 619 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 6: was like, I don't want to see Celine Dion. I'm like, 620 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 6: just go see Celin Deon. So we go see cel 621 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 6: On and pathway through the show, like full of them 622 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 6: start crying. That's how dope. 623 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 5: She was. Halfway show, everyone, I'm like, yo, what y'all crying? 624 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 2: Were you crying? Were you crying the crime? 625 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 6: I was feeling it, you know what I'm saying. I 626 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 6: was feeling it. You and then after she took a picture. 627 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 6: It's on YouTube, is on Google. 628 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 5: Go to Google. We're Testelendon. You see the picture. 629 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: Oh my dude, this is amazing. But listen, you're not 630 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: afraid to cry, You're not embarrassed to cry. 631 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 2: You'll cry. 632 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 5: I don't want to cry. And care coys. 633 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 2: I mentioned Jamal Tintley in the broom and that came 634 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 2: out of nowhere. 635 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 3: It was obscure. I've always meant to ask you this. 636 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: I don't want to rehash the whole malice of the people. 637 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: You've done that a thousand times, yes, and I don't 638 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: want to do it. And Jermaine O'Neil just did it 639 00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 3: in a documentary and it was fantastic. But what was 640 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 3: Tintley trying to achieve with the broom? That's the only 641 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 3: question I have. He came out with a broom. 642 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,200 Speaker 5: You know what? 643 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 6: We need to get Jamal's We need to get Jamal 644 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 6: A lot of a lot of people from the brawl 645 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 6: that didn't get a chance to talk out right. I 646 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 6: would love to hear their perspectives. But the broom is 647 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 6: I mean, twenty years later, I think it's kind of funny. 648 00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 3: It is, it's really funny. Yeah, it's like the only 649 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 3: thing I remember. 650 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 6: Hey, but you know what, it was crazy that broom 651 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 6: saved a couple of people. Man, it's some it's some 652 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 6: angles that y'all didn't see that we saw. 653 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 2: We was like wow, really like what one share. 654 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 5: Was spitting this way? Flat? What spinning over the head? Almost? 655 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 5: It was just like wow, a bunch of crazy scenes 656 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 5: that got in the sea. 657 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: Holy ship. How did the broom save people? Though? Like, 658 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: how did that? 659 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 6: I'm assuming that he was right? 660 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 5: Was of oz which fly away? I think he tried to. 661 00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 5: I think he actually tried to fly away? Did you 662 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 5: see that? Funt? 663 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: Yeah? I did see that. I need to have you 664 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: on again. I think I want to have you on 665 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: with Celine Diones. 666 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 4: Okay, yeah that's gonna happen. 667 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,880 Speaker 3: No, because man is enjoying himself. I would like to 668 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 3: have you on more often if that's possible. It really 669 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 3: quick before we get you out of here. I just 670 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 3: have a few questions. Your favorite Halloween candy is blank. 671 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 5: Candy corn. 672 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: I think it's called Oh no, Wow said. 673 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 5: Give me a hundred of those. 674 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,320 Speaker 2: I am with you. I love getting. 675 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 5: It's like, yeah, exactly what I said. Let's get sick. 676 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 2: What is a metaworld peace? Halloween? Look like we just 677 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 2: had Halloween? Like what what'd you do? Do you do? 678 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 5: You? 679 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 2: Like? 680 00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 6: Like so on average, And I can tell you the 681 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 6: most types of Halloweens I had. 682 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 5: There was egg throwing eggs. 683 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 6: That was like I had more Halloween throwing eggs than 684 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 6: anything else. And I'm talking about man, don't buying cases 685 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 6: of eggs, going out at night, making the putting eggs 686 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 6: in a sock, putting a lot of flower in the sock, 687 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 6: freezing the sock, playing man hitting each other like wild 688 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 6: in the hood. 689 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 3: We had a night, so we had a knight called 690 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 3: Mischief Night in New York before you have the same thing. 691 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: Mischief Night was the night before Halloween. Where would you 692 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 3: go out and just do anything? Oh yes, like what 693 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 3: you were just describing. 694 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 6: Oh yes, I mean you know what. Those eggs would 695 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720 Speaker 6: have been really good. They was cooked. But man or 696 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 6: man go to the store and get maybe ten twenty 697 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 6: dozens and just like let people have it. Some people 698 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,200 Speaker 6: will take it too much and freeze the eggs. Come on, man, 699 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 6: I have freezing the eggs. Take my head off. 700 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: We'll let you go on this note metaphorically speaking, check 701 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 3: it out podcast one. New episodes are available, plus the 702 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 3: X versus X Sports League, which Meta has going on 703 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 3: as well. You're doing fantastic stuff. I am wondering here 704 00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:36,200 Speaker 3: the player today that reminds you the most, the player 705 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: today Metta that reminds you the most, the metal world pieces. 706 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 6: Who I'm Gonnay. I'm gonna say this, the player I 707 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 6: would have liked to be like because my career was 708 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 6: cut shortup due to instability. 709 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 5: I don't think. 710 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:54,160 Speaker 6: I don't think I hit my potential or I would 711 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 6: like to have been like as like Kawai. 712 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,320 Speaker 5: I would have loved to play like Kawai. 713 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 2: Really, yeah, you've been with us a bunch over the years. 714 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 3: You seem like you're in the best place you've ever 715 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 3: been in right now, Like you seem in a really 716 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 3: like you're in a really happy, fun place right now. 717 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 5: I really am a lot of reasons. 718 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 6: I really am so many reasons, and just you're older, 719 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 6: being older, and like. 720 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:19,719 Speaker 5: You know, being around people who kind of know what 721 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 5: I want. 722 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 6: You know, when I first made it into the NBA 723 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 6: and stuff like that, you know I was I still 724 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:27,440 Speaker 6: I don't think I was around people that kind of 725 00:34:27,480 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 6: got me. You know what I'm saying from mini levels, 726 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 6: you know, and you know I got goals, I got dreams, 727 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 6: I got I'm a different type of person, and I 728 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 6: think I'm just like doing exactly what I want to do. 729 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 6: And still basketball is at the center of my life still, 730 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 6: you know. 731 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 5: So it feels good for basketball and still be at 732 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 5: the sense of my life. 733 00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 3: I'm super happy for you, buddy, I really am. I'm 734 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: happy to hear that. I feel like you can also 735 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 3: go in right now, like right now for one night, 736 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 3: and you could shut down Lebron right now. 737 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: I feel like you could do that. No way, Hey, 738 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,440 Speaker 2: come on, let's be Meda is in great shape. 739 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 5: Man. 740 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,319 Speaker 3: I love Meta, but you know, Billy Meta, don't give 741 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 3: a funk who you are. 742 00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 2: Dude. 743 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 3: He will get right up in your face, even right now, 744 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 3: and he will defend the ship out of you. 745 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'll defend the ship out of me. 746 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 2: But Lebron it's not me. How much? How many points 747 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 2: would Lebron scoring you if you gord to him before? 748 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 5: I think right now, who would who would be? Actually? 749 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,759 Speaker 3: If I told you had to go play a game tonight, 750 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:33,120 Speaker 3: who would be an easy cover for you? 751 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Is their guy? 752 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 5: A rookie. A rookie, any rookie. 753 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, put me, put me on a cold nine rookies, 754 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 6: four rookies on my team. 755 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 5: Team, I'll go to work. 756 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 3: All right, metaphorically speaking. His new podcast is available on 757 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 3: podcast one. Anything else you want to say about the 758 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 3: podcast or the league anything? 759 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, nothing much. I think I said it 760 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 6: all and I look forward to come back show. 761 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: Oh my god, I would love for you to come 762 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,839 Speaker 3: back on the show. If you do what I will 763 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 3: promise you. I can't guarantee it is. I will try 764 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 3: to get Celine Dion. I will use your name and 765 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 3: the fact that you got you eight tickets to a 766 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 3: concert if you don't mind, but I want her to 767 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 3: hear you and Billy perform her song live. Okay, well 768 00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:22,799 Speaker 3: let's do it. Set it up now, Okay, thank you 769 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 3: so much, man, I'm super happy for you, buddy. Thank you, 770 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: Billy and karaoke with none at World Beats. 771 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 2: I know. 772 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 4: Now all we have to do is get Selene Dion 773 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,160 Speaker 4: with him like you promise, which seems probably impossible. 774 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,200 Speaker 5: I'd rather Celeni on with you right now. 775 00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 3: I want to hear that due exactly right, Billy, was 776 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 3: that a career career highlight for you. 777 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 4: It's definitely added to my list of career things that 778 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 4: have happened career. 779 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 5: Can't believe this is my life's. 780 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 3: I Meanny Finny was listening and he loved it. 781 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 2: I mean, he really did. 782 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 4: And he's a big Celendion fan from what I remember. 783 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,919 Speaker 3: Yes, now, did I say I would get Celine Dion 784 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 3: or did we put that on Meta? 785 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: I forget how it. 786 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,359 Speaker 4: No, it was you promised Celine Dion, and I think 787 00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 4: you may have also promised Michael Jordan. A lot goes on, 788 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 4: lots of lots of empty promises. 789 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:15,600 Speaker 2: I mean it seems easy. Celenion and Michael Jordan, Yeah, together, 790 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:16,360 Speaker 2: the three. 791 00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 5: Of them singing. 792 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:19,320 Speaker 2: Singing Meta. 793 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,239 Speaker 3: Seems like he's in a great place, does he not? 794 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 3: That was fantastic. That was fun with metaworld Peace. That 795 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,920 Speaker 3: was that was amazing. I mean, Mike ye, I don't know. 796 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 3: For me, I know he only played a single game 797 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,040 Speaker 3: for the next started a single game, But after that interview, 798 00:37:33,080 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: I'm prepared to put him on my all time next team. 799 00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 5: I mean, if not first team, at least second team. 800 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:44,280 Speaker 3: That was a lot of fun, man, That was Billy 801 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 3: For me, it was a career highlight hearing you sing 802 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,239 Speaker 3: Celene Dion with Meta World Peace. 803 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:49,520 Speaker 2: It was a career highlight for me. 804 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 4: Billy, thank you, You're welcome. 805 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 2: I don't know. I've had a lot of highlights, so 806 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,759 Speaker 2: that was one of them. Yes, it's in my top 807 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 2: one hundred. Wow. I love that. 808 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:09,680 Speaker 3: It's the problem mm hmmmm