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Speaker 1: I Almost Famous podcast with our radio. Hey guys, my

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Speaker 1: I love that. No, do you get it? And I'm

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Speaker 1: is it something that Luke p said? Yeah, everybody, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to another week of the Almost Famous Podcast. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: have the sniffles um right now. It's not because I'm sick,

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Speaker 1: It's because I've been out from my rose bushes all morning,

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Speaker 1: and uh, they're pretty nice right now, they're looking really beautiful. Actually, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: of my rose to the almost famous Facebook group. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I didn't get the text for some reason. Mark and

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Speaker 1: I'm a real friend. They are beautiful, they really are.

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Speaker 1: Do you ever cut them? Um? Yeah, you got a

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Speaker 1: I have one upfront that's called the Neil Diamond. That's

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Speaker 1: just natural, just roses. But you can tell me a secret.

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Speaker 1: But I have follow up questions okay, okay, questions before

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Speaker 1: And then secondly, have you ever put these roses in

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Speaker 1: get back to it. Luke is gonna be talking about

454
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Speaker 1: at the end of this episode as well. Lucas and

455
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:34,200
Speaker 1: Luke p The few continues, Luke pe stays, Lucas goes home.

456
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: It wasn't unexpected. I kind of figured it was going

457
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: to happen, at least just from her feelings towards Luke

458
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,879
Speaker 1: Peces the beginning. Ashley, Well, you shocked that Luke pe stayed. No,

459
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 1: not at all. I mean I understand, like having feelings

460
00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 1: towards someone that you probably know is not a good

461
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 1: idea in your head, but like she said, in your heart,

462
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: you just can't let go of it yet. So I mean,

463
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: I understand if she wants more weeks with him. Didn't

464
00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: you feel like in sorry, I said we'd move on,

465
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: but I want to. Didn't you feel like you're at home?

466
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: Because at this point, Hannah seems like a friend to me,

467
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:09,080
Speaker 1: Like I love Hannah. I think Hannah Uh is a

468
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: lot like you in the sense of, like you, you

469
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: were so different as people. But I just want to

470
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: cheer for her as a human and she's entertaining to

471
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,199
Speaker 1: me because of her different way she'd handle situations. And

472
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: when she's saying the words you know, my mind Uh

473
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: doesn't want to hear my heart does. It's like so

474
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: many of my friends that I know that are women

475
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,959
Speaker 1: and men that I'm going leave like this is if

476
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 1: you're saying that this is not a healthy relationship, this

477
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: is not good. Get out of it. But yet we always,

478
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: all of us get pulled right back into those You

479
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: just can't get out of them totally. We can't help ourselves,

480
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: but we cannot help ourselves. But at this point, I'm

481
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 1: loving on Hannah, who also I'm loving on and I

482
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,960
Speaker 1: know you do, and I want to know, were you Okay?

483
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 1: When jp J Paul Jones, why I knew it. I

484
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 1: called it. I called it from the very beginning of

485
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: the Rose ceremony, was like, darn it. JPJ is gonna

486
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,240
Speaker 1: go home? Is any I know he's going home? We

487
00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:03,560
Speaker 1: did not see enough of him him, We didn't, But

488
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: I think we're going to see a lot of them

489
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: in Paradise, Okay, So that brings it up. Then Mateo

490
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: and JPJ were sent home, both solid candidates. I liked

491
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: them both. I'm not surprised they went home. We didn't

492
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,040
Speaker 1: see a lot of them this season. There's a couple

493
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: of guys that stayed that maybe I was a little

494
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: more surprised that we're there these guys. Yeah, there are

495
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:25,280
Speaker 1: a couple more forgettable guys that stayed rather than jp J.

496
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,439
Speaker 1: I think, like He's just so much like a surfer

497
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,960
Speaker 1: brow for her, and she's like, I'm never going to

498
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: be with somebody like that. No, we didn't see enough

499
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: of them. But here's what we gotta pause and talk

500
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 1: about before we get onto Scotland. Who does J? Who

501
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,160
Speaker 1: do you see JPJ connecting with in Paradise? He's got

502
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,639
Speaker 1: to be there. Oh yeah, he's made for it. He

503
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,960
Speaker 1: basically was on Hannah season so that he could go

504
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 1: to Paradise. I agree, Uh, do you have a person

505
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: off the top of your head right now? I think Demi.

506
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: I think Demi and him could have a blast. Okay,

507
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: are they too similar? Maybe that's where I'm thinking. It's

508
00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:07,640
Speaker 1: like they remind me. Yeah, but like at this point,

509
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,720
Speaker 1: isn't that probably what they're looking for? I don't know.

510
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Demby has been on the podcast a few

511
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 1: times talking about her love interest. I don't know if

512
00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 1: she's ready to settle down if she wants to. Mean,

513
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 1: how cool would it be if too funny, goofy people

514
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: connected in Paradise and we got to watch a relationship

515
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: like that like flourish at least for a couple of weeks.

516
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: I don't know that this girl is going to be

517
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: in Paradise. I think she's still instagramming stuff, so it's

518
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: probably a no. But I think he and Haley Ferguson, Oh,

519
00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 1: that would be awesome. They also kind of like the

520
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: Sertain Brothers. Okay, I mean that's kind of okay, it's fine.

521
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: It would be awesome to see Haley go down to

522
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 1: Paradise kind of without Emily to see where they're at.

523
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: I've lost complete touch with the Ferguson twins, but back

524
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,320
Speaker 1: in the day, um, they were a huge piece of

525
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: my life and I always really enjoyed them as humans,

526
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: like just they were fun to be around. They were

527
00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: joy filled and the mystic. And so if we could

528
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: see Haley Ferguson and j p J and the conversations

529
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 1: they would have about the world, let's ship it, right,

530
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 1: that's that word we use, right, ship it. Yes, let's

531
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: get Haley down there. Let's get Haley and Paradise. JPJ

532
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: is waiting for your girl. Okay. Second chapter of the show,

533
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,239
Speaker 1: they're moving on to Scotland. Big fan of Scotland. I

534
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 1: think that is a tremendous place to have the Bachelor,

535
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 1: And I actually kind of wish, like we did on

536
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:31,120
Speaker 1: the Caitlin season of The Bachelor that we they would

537
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: stay in Scotland a few more weeks. I just think

538
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 1: there's tons to see, tons of beautiful date spots, amazing

539
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: high its, amazing places, picnic just it's a really good

540
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,440
Speaker 1: country to do the show from because there's a ton

541
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 1: of history, a ton of culture, and a ton of beauty.

542
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: So I was pumped to here that they're going to Scotland.

543
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 1: I was also excited actually because the very first date

544
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: goes out to Mike, who people are a huge fan

545
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,200
Speaker 1: of this season. I mean when I and I'm kind

546
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: of getting my my I'm judging these things based on

547
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 1: Twitter responses after the show and during the show. Ashley,

548
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: what is it about Mike that you think attracts people

549
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 1: to him? Because here's the thing. I like Mike, but

550
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: I'm not positive on him because he's had so many

551
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: confrontations with Luke p and so at first it was like, Okay, Mike,

552
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: I think you have a lot going for you. Before

553
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 1: this day, I think you're looking guy, You're smart. I

554
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: like that you asked Hannah questions, but you've had now

555
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: you I almost feel like he's taking the role on

556
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: the protector of the house, and that typically is not

557
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,479
Speaker 1: the person I am a fan of later on the season.

558
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 1: What is it about Mike that he's able to do

559
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 1: that and still bring the crowds and him be a

560
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: fan of him. I'm really not sure then, because I

561
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: kind of feel like you do. I like him, but

562
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't understand why anybody would really have a passion

563
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: for him at this point, do you I thought the

564
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: day went well, but I also like, it's screamed you're

565
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: not getting past six to me, do you know what

566
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: I mean? It's like, you're gonna stick around because you're

567
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 1: a nice guy in this process, and we get along

568
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: well and we have fun together. Um, and because I

569
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: have to like do this, like buy a number system,

570
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: You're going to hang around for a while because you're

571
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: a good one, but you're not my one. That's just

572
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: what I gathered from the date. Yeah, and I mean

573
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: he's a top choice for Bachelor, which I think is understandable.

574
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: But here's the thought that the thing that I was

575
00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: really intrigued by from their date is Mike has been

576
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: the protector of the house. He's a confident man, he's

577
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 1: a good looking guy. He stands up to Luke p

578
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: And what I appreciate about Mike is he tells Luke

579
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: p Um the truth. He doesn't skirt around the issue.

580
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,560
Speaker 1: He tries to get to the bottom of it. Um.

581
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 1: It's very clear he's not a fan of loop p

582
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: but at this point not many people are. But we

583
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 1: see that confident, kind of stable force breakdown around Hannah

584
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: to where he is uncontrollably nervous in that moment. He

585
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 1: was very relatable because I had the same thing happened

586
00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: with Caitlin. I could not speak on my first date

587
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: with Caitlin because I was so nervous to be alone

588
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: with her because she was such an intimidating figure to me.

589
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 1: We saw that with Mike, which made him endearing. I

590
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,920
Speaker 1: was just I was It's it's interesting, like as like

591
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: somebody who was more of an open book, to see

592
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:17,360
Speaker 1: him struggle being vulnerable. It was funny. It was like

593
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 1: he was really nervous about talking about like sharing himself. Yeah,

594
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: and I wonder, actually, can you relate like you're you're

595
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: an open book, You're confident, but then when you get

596
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: around guys back in the day before Jared or even

597
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 1: when you first started talking to Jared, would you break

598
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: down for the Bachelor. Yeah, before the Bachelor, maybe on

599
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 1: Crystal season, just like felt so weird talking about myself.

600
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: Like I could talk about like surfacing things about myself,

601
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: but like not talking about my soul. So I think

602
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 1: that Mike is just going through that learning process right now,

603
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,800
Speaker 1: and if we do see him in Paradise, I feel

604
00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: like he'll be like far more comfortable with it. Okay, Yeah,

605
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: so you you're not picking him to be with Hannah.

606
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: I really don't, do you. No, I don't think so either.

607
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,800
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot there. I actually would pick

608
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: him for the top four at this point, um, because

609
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 1: I do think he's six close. Yeah, so I think

610
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: it's somewhere between six and four. I think he is

611
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 1: gonna be a top choice for Bachelor if he goes

612
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:19,959
Speaker 1: to Paradise or not. Um. But there was that moment

613
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: that was interesting to me because he did break down

614
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: this confident figure that we've seen through the whole season,

615
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: broke down a nervousness around Hannah. I mean he didn't

616
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: just break down a nervousness. He sat in that nervousness

617
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: for I mean it had to be minutes like he

618
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: was he couldn't speak it was in real life because

619
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: you know, those are a lot longer scenes in real life.

620
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: At some point, she's probably just wondering, like Mike, just

621
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: start talking like that would probably be weird in person,

622
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 1: like it it would be hones if somebody got that

623
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 1: nervous um. But like Hannah also understands more than anyone

624
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: because the way she was on her first date with Culton.

625
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: Good point. I never thought about that. Actually, that's a

626
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: really good point. Yeah. Do you think it was nerve

627
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: that got her with Colton? Oh? Yeah, because she just

628
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: didn't know how to express her soul either. I feel like,

629
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: especially so early on, and like I think one on

630
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: ones are so there's so much more pressure on a

631
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: one on one than there is on a group dates

632
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: because with group dates you still get like only ten

633
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes solo time with the with the lead, and

634
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: then with one on ones, even though like a one

635
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: on one may take nine hours to shoot, you're probably

636
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: with them for like how many of those nine hours?

637
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: Five hours? Possibly that's a long date. That's like a

638
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: really long first date. Could you imagine going on our

639
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: date in the first date in real life and it

640
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,680
Speaker 1: being five hours with somebody that maybe, well, there's the

641
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Speaker 1: pressure to click, because if you're not clicking after five hours,

642
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 1: it's super obvious, super obvious. No, I can't think about that.

643
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: That does give me stress. There's no way that she's

644
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: going to be clicking with every guy she goes on

645
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: a one on one with. No he has so far, though,

646
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,080
Speaker 1: except maybe later on in this episode. So let's pause

647
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 1: for a second talking about the second group date, followed

648
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: by a massive breakdown with luke P's talking about one

649
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: of our sponsors. All right, you already talking about the

650
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: group date. Now the best group date. It was the

651
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: best group day group day of this season, and we

652
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:24,440
Speaker 1: I think we all know why. It's because luke p

653
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 1: wasn't there, and we got to see amazing camaraderie amongst

654
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: the guys. They like loved being in each other's presence

655
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: without Luke. They were having fun. I even loved when, Um,

656
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: who is it? Who's your favorite? Kevin? Is that Kevin Grant? He? Wait?

657
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 1: Has he not? Who? Wait? Kevin is the wait? Is

658
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: there a guy named Kevin still around? He's the one

659
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,760
Speaker 1: who saw Jed and hannahmaking out. Oh it wasn't Grant,

660
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: it was it might have been Kevin. I think his

661
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 1: name was Kevin. It's not then we know who you're

662
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,319
Speaker 1: talking about. That was terrific, but yeah, so he's like, yeah,

663
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: I know, it was great, right, and then Jed was

664
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: like yeah it was. They were like laughing, and I

665
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: just love the fact that they could laugh about that together. Well,

666
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: it's it's amazing that like Kevin walks upstairs to see Well,

667
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: first off, let's pause here, because on this group date

668
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: we saw Hannah writing I shouldn't say writing, these are

669
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: good makeout sessions, and Jed makeout and the Peter makeout

670
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: Like Peter was actually cute because those like sexy scenes

671
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: on a fool table. You want them to be super sexy,

672
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: but there's no way it's possible, and we were able

673
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: to see it be cute and like clumsy at the

674
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: same time. So actually, I want to start though at

675
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 1: the beginning and talk about the existed. I thought this,

676
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: why is it that I love these type of group dates.

677
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: It's like I remember on my season of the Bachelor

678
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 1: there was the Sack her date and the women played

679
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: soccer and it was amazing because there was camaraderie, there

680
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: is teamwork. And then at the ending of the night.

681
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:09,320
Speaker 1: It was awesome because everybody was tired and worn out

682
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: and so it was very relaxing. Same thing with boxing

683
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: on Caitlin season, and and these group dates about this

684
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: week of the year always seemed to be the best.

685
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 1: Are we are we saying this was the best group

686
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 1: date because Luke p wasn't on it or just because

687
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: of the situation. Yeah, I think it was because Luke

688
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: he wasn't on it, and the guys were able to

689
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: do something fun and funny, which was what was that

690
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 1: called just the Brave Heart Championship. Yeah, let's call it that.

691
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: They were wearing skirts and like dumping milk on their

692
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: head and it was just fun and funny, and Luke

693
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 1: wasn't there to bring it down. And so the guys

694
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: actually like had friendships that existed during this group day.

695
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: It's felt like it felt like the guys actually enjoyed

696
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: being around each other as much as they enjoyed being

697
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: around Hannah, which is very important during these group dates.

698
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: I was excited to see I was excited the audience

699
00:36:56,760 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 1: got to see this kind of friendship amongst them, because

700
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: this is really what it's like in the house when

701
00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: there isn't like any villain interruptions. You're right, You're right.

702
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: When the villain is gone. It actually a lot of fun.

703
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:12,160
Speaker 1: There's cards being played, there's wrestling, there's whatever. Like people

704
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 1: are just messing around. I mean, at least I don't

705
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,279
Speaker 1: know if the women are wrestling. Maybe they are, I

706
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: don't know. Um, but I want to talk about the

707
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: show made a big deal of everybody's balls flop it out.

708
00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: Why were they wearing underwear? I was super confused. I

709
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: don't think you do. I bet Mark knows this. What kilts?

710
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: Do you wear underwear? Eyes just bugged out. He's like,

711
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: I do not, of course, like you can wear underwear

712
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: underneath them. But my understanding is you don't. My understanding

713
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: that the tradition there is that you don't. Ben kind

714
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,160
Speaker 1: of had me on that one. True. I knew he did.

715
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: I know. It feels like Mark's a killed guy. Yeah,

716
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,120
Speaker 1: so these guys, no wonder were underneath these kilts they're

717
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: flopping around. Hannah seeing it as a bachelor at Ashley,

718
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: would you be into this or not? Like is that

719
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 1: a thing that people want to see? Like as if

720
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: you're dating a guy A bunch of guys and that

721
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: that's happening. Are you watching? You turn your head? I

722
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: will say, it's definitely not like guys looking at girls

723
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: without underwear on. It's not like we're begging to see it,

724
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 1: but we'll take a peek if it's there. Okay, just ciosity.

725
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,799
Speaker 1: But it's not like sexy. I'll tell you that it's

726
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,280
Speaker 1: not sexy. That's that was the thing I was wondering,

727
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 1: is this is this is sexy the word we use

728
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: to describe this, Like is she going, oh, this is awesome?

729
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: We're like, uh, Naking guys are more funny than they

730
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 1: are sexy. See that feels like something that exists, isn't it?

731
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: But it's true. This killed website says that if you're

732
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 1: wearing underwear under your kilt, it's a dress. Really, that's

733
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 1: what they say. So they make it manly, a manly

734
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,640
Speaker 1: skirt because you're not wearing underwear, and then therefore your

735
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: cahunas are kind of hanging out. That's like a masculine move. Well,

736
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the true Scott's man, I read where's no underwear? So

737
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: a false Scotsman is what I am? But do you

738
00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: guys feel as if guys are more funny naked and

739
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,760
Speaker 1: rolling around, and girls are like it's sexier for girls

740
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: to have that tease of nothing under the dress. Those

741
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: are two separate questions. Then I'm not sure. I mean,

742
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: I don't think anyone gets excited when a man announces

743
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: he's not wearing underwear. So true, it's like it's like

744
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 1: the difference been strip clubs. The when women go to

745
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,879
Speaker 1: it's a party, there's there's loud music, and I think

746
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 1: they're having so much fun they're screaming the whole time.

747
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,839
Speaker 1: Men go and just lurk. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good

748
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: point Mark. So you see, this is why Mark and

749
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 1: Easton get paid the big buck because Easton broke it down. Well,

750
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 1: nobody gets excited when a man says he no one

751
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: under it, and Mark said it best to where it's

752
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: men are just a little like lurky um and the

753
00:39:55,719 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: women make laugh and can make totally different animals, totally

754
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: different animals. And that's what this date felt like. It

755
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: was fun and funny and it was a connector. It

756
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: felt like the people got closer during this date than

757
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: they were before because of situations like this, the funny,

758
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: the playful situations that existed. Moving into the evening, portion portion, Ashley,

759
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,240
Speaker 1: what did you think? How do you break it down?

760
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 1: I just thought that Jed shined again during the nighttime

761
00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 1: part of the date, and again we mentioned Peter, he

762
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,719
Speaker 1: shined too because of his little move and knowing from

763
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: my chat with Hannah, which was a bonus scene last

764
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 1: week in Newport, she like really liked making out with

765
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: Peter and he liked that. He that that he pushed

766
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: her against the wall, so I think he was like, oh,

767
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: she liked that wall a lot, I'm gonna push her

768
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: against the fool table. So I feel like I really

769
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 1: felt connected with those two during the group date. I

770
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,839
Speaker 1: feel like Jed just continues to kill it. I love

771
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:03,240
Speaker 1: how subtle he is. There's just like something very easy

772
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: about him, and I think there's their opposites in a

773
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 1: way that it really makes sense, like she's going to

774
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 1: be like the shining star and like the big personality

775
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: and he's just gonna sit back and enjoy watching her

776
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 1: do that. That's how I feel like he's not the

777
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: most charismatic figure we've seen on this show. He's not

778
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 1: even the most charismatic figure on this group date, but

779
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: there's a subtleness and just a patience to him. That

780
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: feels like he's gonna be a great partner. He's going

781
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: to spice things up when when when we need to,

782
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 1: but he's also going to be really good sitting back

783
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: watching Hannah shine, Like you said that, you summed it

784
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 1: up perfectly. I do agree. Now. Actually, one other thing

785
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,400
Speaker 1: I want to know is I think we're seeing Hannah

786
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: relax a lot this week. I think we're seeing her

787
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: getting a whole new comfort zone. And I think the

788
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: parallels and the reason I say that is because physically

789
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: she's a lot more aggressive this week, and she's allowing

790
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: a lot more of the makeout to make out to happen.

791
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: And actually she it looks like the cameras she doesn't

792
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,360
Speaker 1: even think the cameras are there. Jed. She was like,

793
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 1: I don't even care. He was like are you sure?

794
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 1: He basically said like are you sure? And She's like

795
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: whatever exactly, So, like, is this just to sig I mean,

796
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: we're only a few weeks in. Is this a sign

797
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,919
Speaker 1: of things that come? Like when you start to open

798
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: up the door to get more comfortable physically, the relationships

799
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: start to get really really close. And so I think

800
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: you're opening yourself up for a lot more emotion later

801
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 1: on in the season that we may be seen in

802
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 1: a while because she's willing to get so so close

803
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: so quickly, quite possibly. And let's mention that Jed did

804
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 1: get the rose on this group day, and he has

805
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: been slaying it with the roses. He got the group

806
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,919
Speaker 1: day on week two, then he got the the one

807
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: on one flower rose on week four, and then again

808
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,799
Speaker 1: got a group date rose this week five. Like he

809
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: has gone into a rose ceremony now three out of

810
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 1: the five times with a rose already. The funny part

811
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: is it's just a good like kind of gone back

812
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: to what you said before. Nobody's intimidated by Jet, right,

813
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: The guys don't hate Jed. They're not pushing Jet aside.

814
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: They're not going, oh, Jed is the front runner. None

815
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: of us are actually viewing Jet as the front war. Yeah,

816
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: we're not. What is up with that? Because he's a

817
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: quiet assassin he is. I think he's very underwhelming, Like

818
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: he's patient, he's kind, he says the right things, he's

819
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,880
Speaker 1: honest with her, but then he just kind of sneaks

820
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: back into the back. It's because usually the front runner

821
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: of the front runner is the one that is like

822
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:44,360
Speaker 1: getting the most attention from the lead, but in this case,

823
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,759
Speaker 1: luke P is getting the most attention from her. But

824
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 1: it's not always positive attention. It's sometimes bad, but in

825
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: general it's attention. So when we think of this season,

826
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: we think luke P before we would ever think about

827
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: somebody who has like just like a better chance of

828
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 1: ending up with her. Yeah. Are you're right. I'm starting

829
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: to believe in Jed more than I ever have after

830
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,319
Speaker 1: this week, because I think he is position has not

831
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 1: position that seems like it was intentional. I just think

832
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: he's in a position right now where everybody else around

833
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 1: him is kind of self destructing except the front runners,

834
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,759
Speaker 1: and he's just going to quietly move through. Yeah. I

835
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: also have to say that, even as an engaged woman,

836
00:44:23,080 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: I thought when he put that milk on his head

837
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 1: it was sexy. Okay, I was going to move us

838
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: on here, but we have to pause here. Milk is

839
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: gonna smell so bad. I'm sure it will. You're right,

840
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: that is pretty disgusting when you think of the smell.

841
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 1: But it was the beastliness of it and the fact

842
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:44,319
Speaker 1: that he really got into it, like Mel Gibson in

843
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: Braveheart and like Let's remember that Braveheart may be thought

844
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: of as like a man's movie, but it is a

845
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: grand romance. Okay, so we're saying the milk move was good.

846
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: We're saying Braveheart is as a romantic comedy. It's not

847
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 1: a comedy, it's a romance. It's a romance. And we're

848
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 1: saying Jed leaves this date as probably the front runner.

849
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: Moving into right now, who we thought was a front

850
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:16,319
Speaker 1: runner after week one, Luke P finally gets the one

851
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: on one. The card is perfect. It says, let's figure

852
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 1: things out one way or another. It's perfect Ashley to

853
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 1: get us started here. And you know, I'm passionate about

854
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 1: this scenario, and so then I could pick it up.

855
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,440
Speaker 1: Leaving the Lucas situation, moving into a one on one

856
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:39,439
Speaker 1: and reading that card is your expectation that this day

857
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: is going to go well or poorly before it even starts.

858
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: I would like to think that this this is not

859
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 1: just a date, it is a test. So I would

860
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 1: say he has a fifty chance of survival. Okay, here

861
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,120
Speaker 1: here's how I think Luke P survives going to the date.

862
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 1: If Luke's P survives, if he stops focusing on himself,

863
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,800
Speaker 1: and he starts focusing on trying to make the situation

864
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: that Hannah is feeling. Oh wait, Ben, we forgot to

865
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: mention one big thing before going into this date. Okay.

866
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: Um she He like said when he found out that

867
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,080
Speaker 1: he was going on the on the one on one

868
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: that he was going to use this as a way

869
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 1: to really know whether he should still be around, Like

870
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: he was going to make this decision of like are

871
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,040
Speaker 1: they compatible or are they not? Am I ready to

872
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 1: leave or am I not? And it's like, dude, you

873
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: literally said that you are already falling in love with her.

874
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: So another thing, it's like he forgets what he says

875
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: in the past. That's and I think, actually that's maybe

876
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: everybody's biggest issue with him in the house. I'm starting

877
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 1: to learn. So here's what's sad to me. Okay, So

878
00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: fast forward to where luke P is leaving. I do

879
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,800
Speaker 1: believe he thinks that he is attempting to make friends.

880
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: It's actually a really sad scene. It was not easy

881
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 1: for anybody to watch, or for me to watch, at

882
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,479
Speaker 1: least while he's leaving the group of guys, he says

883
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 1: a few things. Now, yes, there there weren't wrong things,

884
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: and yes they're out of context, and yes he's not

885
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:10,239
Speaker 1: doing a great job at communicating, but he says just

886
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 1: a few words to the guys as he's leaving, and

887
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 1: you can tell that he's hurting. You could tell the

888
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:20,479
Speaker 1: all he wants to do is belong and he's so

889
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: far outside of the group at this point that belonging

890
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: is even an option until he solved some major issues.

891
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 1: And I think, really it comes down to what you

892
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:36,480
Speaker 1: were saying, is he uses his time so poorly. And

893
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: so here's a question want to ask our listeners, because

894
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: we have some very big hearted listeners. It's very clear

895
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: that our listeners care a lot about the contestants and

896
00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: the people on us as as host. How do we

897
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:50,040
Speaker 1: fall in love with Luke p for who he is

898
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 1: at his worst. I feel like it's impossible for goodenance

899
00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 1: to fall in love with him at this point. But

900
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that he can't have a redemption story later

901
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: down the road. In Paradise he said not a zillion times,

902
00:48:00,120 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: it's just you know right now, No, it's not going

903
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 1: to happen this season. We need a break from him first, well,

904
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 1: and the guys need to break too, because was he

905
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,080
Speaker 1: as he leaving the house to go on this day.

906
00:48:11,239 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 1: It was so awkward that I've you know, as a

907
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: Aniogram four that I've talked about the podcast before. Aniogram four,

908
00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: that's my anagram number. You haven't taken. I haven't taken

909
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:24,480
Speaker 1: the test, but I really need to. You need to

910
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: at some point. Well, afour at my best, you know,

911
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:30,359
Speaker 1: I I desire authenticity and genuineus. That's when I'm at

912
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: my best, it says. When I'm over my worst, I

913
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 1: feel like the kid that wasn't you know. I've said

914
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 1: this before as well, but we repeat it. I feel

915
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 1: like the kid looking in the window at the birthday

916
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: party that he wasn't invited to, and I feel that

917
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: that's when I'm not at my healthiest. And in this moment,

918
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I felt like Luke p was looking around the room

919
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: realizing he wasn't invited to anybody's friendship and that hurts

920
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: that I feel empathy for him there. It's really hard,

921
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 1: and it's really late in the game, and I agree

922
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: with you that I think we're so far that redemption

923
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: isn't going to happen, especially after watching this day. And

924
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: here's why we can go back and forth and break

925
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: down each words and each thing said, I've gotten the sense,

926
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:13,800
Speaker 1: and to be critical here, luke P still is talking

927
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: about luke P no matter how hard this is getting

928
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: for Hannah, and as confused as Hannah as is, his

929
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,720
Speaker 1: response is always, well, I'm confused. Also, I'm hurting also,

930
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:27,840
Speaker 1: but I think you're perfect. No, this isn't about what

931
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 1: you think of her right now. This is about what

932
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 1: she thinks towards you. Pour into who she is as

933
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 1: a woman, Pour into this relationship. Because we know that

934
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: you're feeling hurt as well, but but you're also hurting

935
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: everybody else in the process. And so I'm confused at

936
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,919
Speaker 1: why it continues to be about luke P and his mind.

937
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: There isn't a when Hannah says that, why isn't the

938
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: response like a Mike would do too, Why are you hurting?

939
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: Let's break this down, let's talk about it, let's come

940
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 1: to terms, let's let's let's communicate. It's yeah, I'm hurting two,

941
00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 1: which diminishes Hannah's feelings and completely shuts down the conversation. Actually,

942
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 1: I want to ask you, if you went to Jared,

943
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: was something that was really hurting you right that was

944
00:50:09,360 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 1: going on in your relationship and his response to you was, yeah,

945
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: but I'm hurting. Also, how do you feel shut down? Yeah, diminished,

946
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:26,360
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't want to hear, he doesn't care, he

947
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:30,600
Speaker 1: doesn't care, and you're gonna leave the conversation still with

948
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,720
Speaker 1: a burden on your heart. That's not how communication works.

949
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: And it isn't me too all the time, right, And

950
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 1: it's super interesting that Hannah um goes to the producers

951
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: and she says, like you can like kind of like

952
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: see her say something along the ones of like, please

953
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: talk to him and tell him what it means to

954
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 1: feel like she's obviously frustrated with him. Yeah, what it

955
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: means to actually feel anything towards me, empathy, emotion if

956
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 1: she so. We don't know whether or not he gets

957
00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 1: as obviously, but um we but like, how could she

958
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 1: ever at the end of this, right, because it doesn't

959
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,920
Speaker 1: get any better? Right, I mean, she sets him up

960
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: for the most success. She talks to these producers, which

961
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 1: I love them showing because everybody always asked me to

962
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: the producers force you into things that didn't manipulate you,

963
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,680
Speaker 1: what all those things? And I always say it's no.

964
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,920
Speaker 1: They just guide and direct And you see it here

965
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 1: which is exactly how producers would work. You've seen it

966
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 1: play out perfectly. She goes down with isshoes, she goes

967
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: down with with problems. They don't tell her what to do.

968
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 1: They just listen respond and say and she goes, can

969
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,840
Speaker 1: you go talk to him? And they say, that's your job, Hannah,

970
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 1: you go talk to him about this. Now they could

971
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 1: have said, they could have talked her through it and

972
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, calmed her down, but they didn't. This is

973
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,879
Speaker 1: a conversation that Luke Pie and Hannah needs to have.

974
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: And what is Luke's p's response. Literally, Ashley and I

975
00:51:58,200 --> 00:51:59,600
Speaker 1: just had a tweet the other day because one of

976
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: our listen as goes, Ben, you gotta start stop talking

977
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 1: about self describing I'm like, okay, I'm done. I'm not

978
00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:06,359
Speaker 1: gonna do anymore over with you know, I don't like it.

979
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,280
Speaker 1: I'll come back to that two more years. But literally

980
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 1: could not say anything more boastful than what he said.

981
00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 1: It's so cringe e. This is what this is. Oh,

982
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 1: you could not have And Luke, if you're listening, I

983
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: hope you know it's cringe E. I would come up podcast,

984
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,720
Speaker 1: We'll tell you it's cringe E. Come on the podcast.

985
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: We'll we'll we'll talk about your communication. Come on the

986
00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:32,439
Speaker 1: podcast and let's have a redemption story. Luke p would

987
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 1: be a great A terrific depth, A terrific in depth.

988
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,240
Speaker 1: It would be amazing to hear his story and figure

989
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: out how we can love on him best and fall

990
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,360
Speaker 1: in love with him as as a person because right

991
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:48,799
Speaker 1: now we're not seeing great things. And he goes, it's

992
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: weird that none of these guys like me, because wherever

993
00:52:51,280 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 1: I go, everybody loves me. In high school and in

994
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:02,880
Speaker 1: my hometown, people love me. I mean, come on, listeners,

995
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 1: come on out there. How many times in our lives

996
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 1: have we met somebody that said something similar? And I

997
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: don't care if you like the self describing part or not.

998
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:17,600
Speaker 1: It's cringe. E. Everyone loves me. Everybody everybody likes me.

999
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Ashley, I think you're a very loved person.

1000
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:29,279
Speaker 1: Liked I a majority. I guarantee you that everybody loves you. You.

1001
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: I think it's a better it's the better person to

1002
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: say everybody loves you. And I know you would never

1003
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: ever say that or even think that because you're humble,

1004
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: because it's not true, Like it's just not true. I

1005
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,479
Speaker 1: trust me get on my Twitter like it ain't good.

1006
00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: Sometimes it gets ugly. I know people don't always love me.

1007
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: And for him to say, so, here's the thing, actley

1008
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:57,439
Speaker 1: and and then we'll stop talking about it and let's

1009
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 1: just break down the whole conversation. So, Hannah Pie's issue

1010
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 1: with Luke p is that he isn't getting along with

1011
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: guys at the house. He's not feeling things, he's not emotional,

1012
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 1: he isn't vulnerable, and as a result, they seem to

1013
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 1: be missing the mark. It's all stemming from his inability to,

1014
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: uh for lack of ar term, humble himself to the

1015
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: place that he's at and and be self aware that

1016
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 1: he is is kind of destroying relationships in the house

1017
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,959
Speaker 1: as he goes. So instead of humbling himself and being

1018
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 1: self aware, he says those exact things. She's probably hoping

1019
00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't. Don't you think I am too caught up

1020
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: in the moment right now of thinking about is it

1021
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,799
Speaker 1: self describing that I just said I think people love me,

1022
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,800
Speaker 1: and hey, did I just do it? Weird and totally

1023
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,719
Speaker 1: hypocrite if you would have said, if you would have said,

1024
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 1: I'm the most humble person in the world and as

1025
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:49,880
Speaker 1: a result, then it would have been tight end. But no,

1026
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: no at all. Um, don't you think that he missed

1027
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,399
Speaker 1: the mark completely when he said that that the rest

1028
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:00,840
Speaker 1: of the day on as Lee was never going to

1029
00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: be fixed because of those words? Oh? Absolutely absolutely, I don't.

1030
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 1: I don't even know how she honestly went on. Well,

1031
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:11,200
Speaker 1: we don't know if they did, because we move on

1032
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: to the dinner portion of the date to where he

1033
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: starts saying that she's perfect, and we have two more

1034
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,040
Speaker 1: points that we want to touch on. What's happening here

1035
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: for Hannah I think is she's still trying to tell

1036
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 1: him Luke, I don't know if I'm in this, Like,

1037
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if you're in this, I don't know

1038
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: what we're doing here, Like we're obviously not connecting at all.

1039
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: You haven't seen the real side of me at any level.

1040
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:35,400
Speaker 1: I have other people on the show that already have,

1041
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: Like we're missing it. And he starts talking about how

1042
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:43,239
Speaker 1: perfect she is, and she's going, what you're seeing is

1043
00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:45,960
Speaker 1: not really me. So me being perfect in this moment

1044
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: to you isn't true. It's not at this She's so good.

1045
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: I mean, Hannah has never I have never wondered what

1046
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: Hannah is feeling through this show, and I don't think

1047
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,680
Speaker 1: the guys have either, because she has been incredibly honest.

1048
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: I love how bad she is at like keeping anything

1049
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: in and how good it is for us. Yeah, I

1050
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 1: just if she doesn't dump him at this, we will

1051
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: all be unsatisfied. I will think that she's actually, for

1052
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:25,279
Speaker 1: the first time, not doing like not listening to herself,

1053
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: and uh, it'll be shocking. This is normally if we're

1054
00:56:30,960 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: going into week six with this, this is normally when

1055
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 1: I would think the villain would be cut out and

1056
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 1: then we can start concentrating more on the love and

1057
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: less on the drama. But who knows. I mean, could

1058
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 1: you imagine her keeping him after this? Like what would

1059
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:47,800
Speaker 1: she be doing? But what would she be doing? Because

1060
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:52,800
Speaker 1: she likes She's basically doesn't like his personality. She basically

1061
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 1: was very physically attracted to him the first couple of

1062
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,640
Speaker 1: weeks and now realizes that a face doesn't really mean

1063
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: that much to her. Even after the whole dinner ash,

1064
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: there's still at odds she thinks he won't be real

1065
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: with her. It's actually really weird. She's asking a ton

1066
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 1: of questions about the relationship with the girls and the family,

1067
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: and we see Loopie not answering, I'm with you. He

1068
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 1: can't stay. It's the whole date has been going the

1069
00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:22,520
Speaker 1: opposite direction from either what either of them want, and

1070
00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, to either of his person's perspective, maybe they

1071
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: just don't connect as a couple. At this point, they're

1072
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:30,439
Speaker 1: realizing that, yeah, they're not the best thing for each other,

1073
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 1: and maybe that's the problem. Is loot p and his

1074
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: mind is still saying that they are. It might be

1075
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: the worst date I've ever seen on the Bachelor franchise,

1076
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: or how much build up there was to it. Yeah, no,

1077
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 1: I totally agree. Actually, to close up the podcast for today,

1078
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,800
Speaker 1: this is the part that confuses me. I think he

1079
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: stays because next week in the preview we see him

1080
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: praying at an altar in a church, like he goes

1081
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:59,880
Speaker 1: somewhere else other than Scotland. It looks like it's to

1082
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:03,720
Speaker 1: me unless like they leave the day and she does

1083
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: the whole I'm not going to pass out of roads tonight.

1084
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: I need to think about it. And he goes back

1085
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,520
Speaker 1: and he goes to the church. I think he ends

1086
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: up staying till next week because I bet he got

1087
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: a rose on this day so that she could process it.

1088
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 1: Here's my things. She should have waited to the rose

1089
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: ceremony and at least let it simmer in her brain,

1090
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:21,720
Speaker 1: be like, I'm not going to give you on one

1091
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:23,280
Speaker 1: on one this day. I'm gonna make my own rules.

1092
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have a couple of days or I'm gonna

1093
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 1: have like at least like twenty four hours to figure

1094
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,640
Speaker 1: it out. Have we don't know how this is. Then

1095
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: he goes to pray that's okay, So you're not positive

1096
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,200
Speaker 1: that he's sticking around the next week. Actually, I gotta

1097
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 1: get personal for a second. My buddy watches show with

1098
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: me last night, and as a Christian myself, Um, I

1099
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:50,440
Speaker 1: don't love when it feels like faith is being used

1100
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:54,200
Speaker 1: as a weapon. Or do you take that line from Nick?

1101
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:57,040
Speaker 1: Nick's been saying that everywhere he could he gets a chance.

1102
00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: He says that God has been being used as a

1103
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: weapon with him. Really, yeah, we should have Oh yeah,

1104
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 1: we definitely should. Um, it's not okay to me because

1105
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people watch this show from all different ages.

1106
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: It isn't fun to watch as a believer in Jesus

1107
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: to see that God's name as being used as a

1108
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:23,400
Speaker 1: weapon at any level. Right. I want these two people

1109
00:59:23,400 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: to figure it out as adults, as real human beings.

1110
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't want a faith that I know is very

1111
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,040
Speaker 1: important to probably Luke and to Hannah, to all to

1112
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,200
Speaker 1: a lot of other guys in the show. I don't

1113
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: want it to be used as a focus point to

1114
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 1: protect from the story going on. Right. I mean, it's

1115
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 1: not a good look, and I don't love at the

1116
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 1: end of this episode shows him on his hands and

1117
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 1: knees praying because in my belief, and maybe I could

1118
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,960
Speaker 1: be wrong, prayers should be done and quiet. It shouldn't

1119
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,840
Speaker 1: be done to cause a scene. It shouldn't be shouldn't

1120
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:00,400
Speaker 1: be done to be boast. We should be served and

1121
01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: praying quietly in our own worlds. Right. There's a great

1122
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 1: verse that says, served so that your right hand doesn't

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01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 1: know what your left is doing. And I feel like

1124
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:14,880
Speaker 1: to use a faith or a prayer at any level

1125
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: could get really dangerous and it gets very personal to me.

1126
01:00:20,160 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: You said, you said it all. Hey, I hope that

1127
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,640
Speaker 1: Luke p is praying. I hope that he is trying

1128
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: to process where God is at in his life at

1129
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: this time. I have zero doubt that he is, like

1130
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:35,000
Speaker 1: I think he hasn't probably a relationship that he desires

1131
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 1: to be authentic and genuine with God. But I also

1132
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,520
Speaker 1: think there's a responsibility as men and women and just

1133
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: humans in general to figure out our stuff out on

1134
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: our own. And I hope he is doing that. I

1135
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 1: hope he takes responsibility for his actions. I hope he

1136
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,880
Speaker 1: takes her responsibility for how he is communicating with the

1137
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: guys in the Hannah, And I hope that this isn't

1138
01:00:55,560 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 1: that we don't see next week him putting any type

1139
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: of blame on any of the guys. I'm just tired

1140
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:03,240
Speaker 1: of it. So he needs to figure his stuff out

1141
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: on his own. I love what you just said, Ben Bravo. Um,

1142
01:01:08,000 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: would you like to do some emails before we wrap

1143
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: this up? I love to let's do it. Okay, I

1144
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: like this, but it basically was something you said last week.

1145
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: I think this is from Megan the new Tanner does

1146
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: Garrett not give you guys? Major Tanner arrives. He's not

1147
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: the front runner. He has some funny comments. He seems

1148
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 1: to be cool and calm. He's definitely slow to warm

1149
01:01:27,880 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: up to Hannah. He also seems really close to the

1150
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,520
Speaker 1: guys in the house. I'm not sure, but this feels

1151
01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: a lot like the Tanner of this season. And I

1152
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: think you said that last season. I think that's why

1153
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,080
Speaker 1: you said you love Garrett. Oh, Garrett, Oh, this is

1154
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: about Garrett. No, I think this is more about Grant.

1155
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: Remind me more of Tanner. Grant reminds me of Tanner.

1156
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: Garrett doesn't see. Tanner was funny because Tanner was such

1157
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 1: a big fan of the show when we went on,

1158
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 1: Before we went on that he would sit in the

1159
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: back and just quietly break down what was happening now.

1160
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: He was the encyclopedia. He was the encyclopedia, and so

1161
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: he was funny because he was so quiet and passive

1162
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: and calm that I fell in love with Tanner right

1163
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 1: away because he was just a good voice to have around. No,

1164
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: I'm sure Garrett has that similar vibe, but Grant definitely

1165
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 1: to me that this is the email is funny because

1166
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 1: from Megan the question in this what is your favorite dessert?

1167
01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: That's why favorite, that's what is your favorite dessert? Um?

1168
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: My favorite dessert is a warm chocolate ship cookie out

1169
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,240
Speaker 1: of the oven mind strawberry ryobard pie, oh, I don't

1170
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 1: know if I'd like that. I don't really like fruit

1171
01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,920
Speaker 1: based desserts. Now, come on, not desert if it's not chocolate. Um.

1172
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 1: Next email, what about Mike J. Why is Mike J

1173
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: not getting much screen time or attention this season? He

1174
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,800
Speaker 1: seems smart, kind, genuine, authentic, and does not put up

1175
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:51,120
Speaker 1: with the drama that the other men start in the house.

1176
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 1: He calls out there um s h I d but

1177
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: does not, but does so in a way that is

1178
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: protective Hannah's heart. I'm totally team Mike, and if he

1179
01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 1: doesn't win, I think it's about time we have a

1180
01:03:04,640 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: Bachelor of color now, Katie, this obviously has written before

1181
01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: this week. I think we see a lot of Mike

1182
01:03:09,560 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: this week. I hope that you enjoyed that. I think that, uh,

1183
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,000
Speaker 1: this podcast is definitely a fantom Mike. I think he

1184
01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:18,360
Speaker 1: could be the next Bachelor. I don't know if he's

1185
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 1: right for Hannah. As I asked, you was saying, um,

1186
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:22,720
Speaker 1: but I think after this week we'll see more and

1187
01:03:22,760 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: more of Mike. I have to laugh at this this

1188
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: email from Katie. She goes, I have a theory. We

1189
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: have a theory. We have a theory. I guess her

1190
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 1: and her friends that in our experiences seem to be

1191
01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: almost proven. People tend to be attracted to people that

1192
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,440
Speaker 1: look like them. In fact, great couples often often are

1193
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: told that they look like siblings. For example, You and Jest, Jared,

1194
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 1: Nashley Colton and Cassie Tanner and Jade, Joe, Joe and Jordan,

1195
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 1: and Becka and Garrett. Based on this theory, only Hannah

1196
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: By will pick either Luke, p or Tyler C. Are

1197
01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:58,840
Speaker 1: we crazy or do we think that people are subconsciously

1198
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: attracted to people with some silar features. I will tell

1199
01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:06,760
Speaker 1: you I am attracted to people who have similar features

1200
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: to me. I like dark hair, usually dark eyes. I

1201
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:14,360
Speaker 1: like almond shape eyes. I like guys with big brows

1202
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: and full lips. I like literally, um just have like

1203
01:04:20,800 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 1: this type. And everybody has always been like, you look

1204
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: like you could be his sister, like to all the

1205
01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: guys that I've really really liked in my life, including Jared,

1206
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,760
Speaker 1: which is fine that Jared and I looked like like

1207
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: we could be, you know, related, maybe not directly sister

1208
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:36,520
Speaker 1: and brother. I don't think directly sister and brother, but

1209
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,120
Speaker 1: you know they're similarities. But the only other people that

1210
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: I see have similarities in this group, Colton and Cassie.

1211
01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 1: They look like they could be siblings. I suppose Taylor

1212
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,600
Speaker 1: and Jade do too. Maybe that's why they created the

1213
01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: most beautiful child I've ever seen an Emmy. But I

1214
01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 1: don't see you and Jess looking like siblings. And I

1215
01:04:54,040 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 1: don't see Jojo and Jordan's Beck and Garant either. You know,

1216
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:02,920
Speaker 1: It's funny I've been I feel like I've been attracted

1217
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: to all different types. All right, I'm so attracted to Jess,

1218
01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,080
Speaker 1: and then I've also been attracted the blonde. Like it's

1219
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: I have to have a wide array of attraction. But

1220
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: I do think that you are a checked to somebody

1221
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: looks similar to you. Um, I have zero idea why.

1222
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: I think probably is amazing thing. Don't you think that,

1223
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: like if you have compatible features, that you will produce

1224
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 1: a strong looking child. Oh that could be ash Look

1225
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: at you, just the smartest young lady. I know. Hey,

1226
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 1: Ashley wild podcast this week a wild show. Um again, Hey,

1227
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: congratulations to you and also myself. We've both worked hard

1228
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: at this and the whole team at my heart Mark

1229
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,560
Speaker 1: Easton Amy tore it in like just the whole team

1230
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:52,919
Speaker 1: that's worked on this since the beginning. This is our

1231
01:05:53,040 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 1: second year once again and over fifteen million downloads in

1232
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:01,400
Speaker 1: two years. We're rock can enroll in. My buddy asked

1233
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,160
Speaker 1: me tonight, Ashley, does it feel like the podcast has

1234
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:07,439
Speaker 1: any end in sight? And I said, there's absolutely no way.

1235
01:06:07,560 --> 01:06:09,560
Speaker 1: I hope not. I really hope we're doing this as

1236
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:13,040
Speaker 1: long as the Bachelor and Bachelor I continue, Let's do it.

1237
01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:16,840
Speaker 1: Hey with that, As I've been been, I've been Ashley

1238
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:22,840
Speaker 1: Leader Gators. Follow the Bennon Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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