Speaker 1: So this is it.
Speaker 2: We are here finally, and here's my question before we
Speaker 2: even tell people what we're doing this week. How many
Speaker 2: times have you seen this week's movie? If you had
Speaker 2: to guess, not.
Speaker 3: Very many, not very many. No, no, no, no, okay. So
Speaker 3: it's not like you've watched this thing fifty times.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 3: I mean when the movie came out, I was probably
Speaker 3: twenty two, twenty three, right, So I'm not gonna say
Speaker 3: I wasn't a fan, because that would be an absolute lie.
Speaker 3: But I wasn't like a fanatic like I probably watched
Speaker 3: Brink and Johnny Tsunami, you know, any every single time
Speaker 3: it was on the channel, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: Right, And so that wasn't.
Speaker 3: This, But I I feel like I've watched it. I'd
Speaker 3: say probably maybe four times. This is probably my fifth, okay,
Speaker 3: fifth and six, because I watch them twice, you know.
Speaker 2: So could you mouth along with all the songs? Did
Speaker 2: you know, like all the words all the songs?
Speaker 3: Not all of them, but yes, get you Ahead in
Speaker 3: the Game has been a fave of mine.
Speaker 4: So I just totally gave away the movie because you did.
Speaker 1: You just gave away what we're doing this week. I
Speaker 1: think everyone knows do.
Speaker 4: You asked if I knew the words, and we.
Speaker 1: Might as well just jump in, don't you think?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 2: So welcome back to Magical rewind the show that makes
Speaker 2: you want to grab your friends, your pjs and your
Speaker 2: popcorn and go back to a time when all the
Speaker 2: houses were smart, the wave tsunamis and the high schools
Speaker 2: music call. Yes, it is the biggest day ever here
Speaker 2: at Magical Rewinds, So get your head in the game.
Speaker 2: We are now recapping the most successful franchise in dcom history,
Speaker 2: and we're starting with the movie that kicked it all off,
Speaker 2: the first HSM. That's right, and that's what the cool
Speaker 2: kids call it, but it's actually if you pronounce it
Speaker 2: the way the drama teacher, for some reason does in
Speaker 2: this movie, High School MUSICALE.
Speaker 1: This is obviously on Disney Plus.
Speaker 2: It's actually one of the main titles they launched with,
Speaker 2: So go and watch it there now, or just listen
Speaker 2: because you probably remember everything by heart anyway from this movie.
Speaker 4: You do not probably even need to watch Let's Be Real.
Speaker 1: Let's All Be Real.
Speaker 2: It is a song and dance story of identity and
Speaker 2: perception that first aired on My.
Speaker 6: Dad's birthday, January twentieth, two thousand and six, and the
Speaker 6: concept was born from Disney executive brains who noticed the
Speaker 6: outlandishly amazing success of standalone musicale I want to say
Speaker 6: it every time now, musicale episodes, musical episode of Even
Speaker 6: Stevens and Natso Raven and wanted to take it one
Speaker 6: step further, and the premiere broadcast generated seven point seven
Speaker 6: million viewers, breaking the then record for the largest original
Speaker 6: cable audience in history.
Speaker 1: Wow, eventually to be broken by the Cheetah Girls.
Speaker 2: Yes, Sabrina, you broke the record.
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1: Musical.
Speaker 4: It was tough to beat, guys, you know it.
Speaker 3: I mean, we really had to bush, but you did it.
Speaker 1: It was the Cheetah chatter. It did it every time.
Speaker 2: The movie soundtrack made it all the way to number
Speaker 2: one on the US Billboard two hundred and sold over
Speaker 2: four million copies. It was the best selling album of
Speaker 2: two thousand and six. To call this film and the
Speaker 2: enterprise that would follow a success would be such an understatement.
Speaker 2: It became an institution, an absolute institution. This is amazing.
Speaker 2: I love reading this. Every time I read this, I
Speaker 2: was like, this can't be right. But it's true. Two
Speaker 2: dcom sequels, a directed DVD spinoff, a reality show concept,
Speaker 2: a meta reboot TV shows that's still airing and spawning
Speaker 2: superstars at Disney, plus foreign adaptations, a reunion special, stage show, revivals,
Speaker 2: best selling novelizations, six video games and comic books, live concerts,
Speaker 2: Halloween costumes, and enough merchandise to fill a theme park.
Speaker 2: This is a true with Disney pillar, and it started
Speaker 2: with Today's movie with just a four point two million
Speaker 2: dollar budget that turned into more than a billion dollars
Speaker 2: I'll say that again, a billion with.
Speaker 1: A B dollars rail I mean amazing.
Speaker 2: This was the sixty third dcome ever, so like the
Speaker 2: old saying, the sixty third tries of charm?
Speaker 1: Is that what they say?
Speaker 3: That?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, okay whatever. It was also.
Speaker 2: Nominated for six Emmy Awards and one two in two
Speaker 2: thousand and six. It won Outstanding Choreography and Outstanding Children's Programming,
Speaker 2: but it was also up for Outstanding Casting, Outstanding Directing,
Speaker 2: and had two songs in Outstanding Original Music and Lyrics.
Speaker 2: And these unbelievably incredible results spoke for themselves as it
Speaker 2: was replayed maybe hundreds of times, but the DVD once released,
Speaker 2: sold eight million units, earning itself an operating income of
Speaker 2: one hundred million dollars. This was truly the type of
Speaker 2: project that single handedly moved disney stock price.
Speaker 1: This changed the ballgame.
Speaker 2: It was a juggernaut and just absolutely amazing. One of
Speaker 2: the few, well, not to spoil it, but one of
Speaker 2: the few dcoms I'd actually heard.
Speaker 1: Of, Yes, going into this thing, that's how big it was.
Speaker 5: I knew what it was.
Speaker 1: That's how big it was. Yeah. It was shot in Ready, Utah,
Speaker 1: one of the chances, and.
Speaker 4: At school we have seen already.
Speaker 1: It was the Mini Man's School, wasn't it? Yes, mess.
Speaker 2: It has become such a milestone for the state that
Speaker 2: there are tours available for the shooting locations, which include
Speaker 2: Salt Lake Cities, Murray High School, and East High School,
Speaker 2: which still has Sharpay's pink locker intact. They also shot
Speaker 2: some scenes in nearby Salt Lake City and at home
Speaker 2: in Los Angeles. Ten days of rehearsal and just twenty
Speaker 2: four days to shoot, which is an amazingly tight schedule,
Speaker 2: and it shows you how history can be made in
Speaker 2: thirty four short days.
Speaker 5: Because Wow, and.
Speaker 2: Even with a somewhat jaded and media heavy generation. This
Speaker 2: was a cultural moment.
Speaker 1: It really was.
Speaker 2: Everyone knew it existed, including myself. It was spoofed on SNL,
Speaker 2: created numerous household names in the industry, and it was
Speaker 2: all done with a very very family friendly, non ironic
Speaker 2: sometimes and somewhat saccerin musical. It's optimistic and very clean,
Speaker 2: even for a dcom. I mean, I don't think there's
Speaker 2: even a double entendre in this entire movie. No, really incredible. Now,
Speaker 2: I don't even have to ask you this. You've obviously
Speaker 2: you heard of High School Musical, so I'm just gonna
Speaker 2: ask you said you'd seen it four or five times.
Speaker 2: But how big a deal was this one for you?
Speaker 2: You said you liked it, but this was not Brinker
Speaker 2: Johnny Tsunami for you, right right?
Speaker 3: I mean I would So I mentioned this when we
Speaker 3: were talking with Michael healy Is. This movie came out
Speaker 3: and was happening while we were in Spain shooting the
Speaker 3: second movie. So and we were with Kenny Ortega, the
Speaker 3: same director, So we were getting so much of the
Speaker 3: inside scoop of what was going on and the success
Speaker 3: of it, that of course we had to figure out
Speaker 3: a way to watch the movie and see they really
Speaker 3: were able to take a lot of what I think
Speaker 3: they learned going through The Cheetah Girls, right, because The
Speaker 3: Cheetah Girls was the first like musical, right, and we
Speaker 3: did end up doing a Christmas tour after that one,
Speaker 3: and they were starting to realize how much these musicals
Speaker 3: that they were not tapping into yet that they could
Speaker 3: really take.
Speaker 4: On the road. And you know so much.
Speaker 3: And so we were right there with Kenny as he's
Speaker 3: getting in all the information of these kids and what's
Speaker 3: happening at these events that they're showing. I mean they
Speaker 3: shut down Times Square at some point.
Speaker 4: I mean it was giant.
Speaker 3: So this movie was I mean, obviously I was a
Speaker 3: fan and loved watching it, but it was so cool
Speaker 3: to be in the wheelhouse of the Disney Channel and
Speaker 3: hearing how awesome it was doing it was just phenomen
Speaker 3: It just really isn't.
Speaker 2: Wait to see the sequels of all these things, Cheetah
Speaker 2: Girls and High School Musical and.
Speaker 3: Descendants, because here's the Oh so we're not gonna get
Speaker 3: into whether I like the movie or not right away.
Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get that. But I'm dying to
Speaker 1: know you.
Speaker 2: Could you could see that this was genesis in that, for.
Speaker 1: Instance, Teen Beach movie.
Speaker 2: To me, and I know very little about this stuff,
Speaker 2: but it seemed the choreography was a little bit tighter.
Speaker 2: It was I don't know, it seemed like they were
Speaker 2: still trying with Cheatah Girls what. Like. That's why I
Speaker 2: want to see how different Cheata Girls Too and High
Speaker 2: School Musical two are because it seemed like they're trying
Speaker 2: to they're still figuring it out at this point. Of of course,
Speaker 2: they're still figuring out right the genre of their creating
Speaker 2: the genre as they're going.
Speaker 4: Yes, what what are they doing?
Speaker 3: You know?
Speaker 4: You see it in this movie that they bring in music.
Speaker 3: Differently, like yes at the beginning, and we'll get into
Speaker 3: how all of that kind of transforms and everything thing,
Speaker 3: but okay, right, like the Cheetah Girls was not necessary.
Speaker 3: We didn't really break out into song until our finale.
Speaker 2: Right, And I have some questions about why they broke
Speaker 2: into song.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I have some.
Speaker 4: I know you or I was, well, we get to
Speaker 4: the first time they do it.
Speaker 3: I'm like in my head, going buckle up, will, because
Speaker 3: we're going on a ride.
Speaker 4: This is it. Here we go. They are going to
Speaker 4: break out into song. All over this movie.
Speaker 2: All right, Well, let's just stick to the status quo
Speaker 2: and start something new.
Speaker 1: It's time for the synopsis.
Speaker 2: So a popular high school athlete and an academically gifted
Speaker 2: girl aspire to join the school MUSICALE I'll stop doing that,
Speaker 2: the school musical, threatening the student body social order, and
Speaker 2: falling for each other in the process.
Speaker 1: So early thoughts, Sabrina, What did you think?
Speaker 3: All Right? I, you know, it was really I haven't
Speaker 3: seen this movie in a while, so very excited to
Speaker 3: watch it again and kind of more so not necessarily
Speaker 3: critique it, but kind of break it down.
Speaker 4: Was hard for me.
Speaker 3: I just I just kind of going, oh, crap, I'm
Speaker 3: supposed to be doing Sabrina seat like I'm not. You know,
Speaker 3: I really got lost in it this one, because it's
Speaker 3: been a while since we've watched a movie that I
Speaker 3: really liked, you know that I was really just fully
Speaker 3: in and so it was really nice. The second time
Speaker 3: is when I kind of got myself a little bit
Speaker 3: more straight on what are the Sabrina funny things that
Speaker 3: I kind of saw? I thought the characters they were
Speaker 3: so perfectly cast. I mean, I don't think there's anyone
Speaker 3: in the world. That could have done a better Sharpey
Speaker 3: than Ashley Tisdale, Right, Corbin Blue. Obviously we all love
Speaker 3: you know, Zach and.
Speaker 4: And he was amazing. I just I loved it.
Speaker 3: It just made me go, wow, this was just Disney
Speaker 3: hit it out of the park with this one.
Speaker 4: That's my early thoughts and what I'm gonna be saying.
Speaker 1: So, I hope you're okay.
Speaker 4: No, I hope you think Well, that's the better question.
Speaker 4: We know how I feel about this movie. What did
Speaker 4: you think about this music?
Speaker 1: Now? Okay, overall I liked it. No, overall I liked it. Okay.
Speaker 2: The cast is phenomenal. They're phenomenal. Exactly what you said.
Speaker 2: You could not have picked better people to play the
Speaker 2: roles in this film at all. That Zach and Vanessa
Speaker 2: are have so much chemistry, They're both cute as hell.
Speaker 2: Ashley Tisdale and our brother are funny and kind of ironic.
Speaker 1: And the supporting cast, all that stuff is great.
Speaker 2: I have some questions about certain ideas when it comes
Speaker 2: to the singing. I thought, I and that's just me
Speaker 2: figuring out the kind of I'm trying to figure out
Speaker 2: I think while they're trying to also figure out how
Speaker 2: to make this work, right, going from you know, they're
Speaker 2: singing in a show, and he doesn't want to tell
Speaker 2: all his friends that he wants to be a singer.
Speaker 2: But all of his friends are then singing with him
Speaker 2: on the basketball court, so is he imagining that?
Speaker 4: But no, it's the it's this movie. It's like Greece.
Speaker 3: It's there's a right they they're not necessarily supposed to
Speaker 3: be singing. They're supposed to be talking to each other
Speaker 3: through song. I know that they are. But they're talking
Speaker 3: to each other.
Speaker 1: Through song and dance, which is fine.
Speaker 2: I get that, But then it becomes a little muddled
Speaker 2: to me, where then the thing he's embarrassed about is
Speaker 2: wanting to sing and dance, right.
Speaker 4: I mean I.
Speaker 1: So it's like I don't planatory. I know, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but this is where my head goes.
Speaker 4: Right, I get it.
Speaker 3: And again it goes along with whether or not you
Speaker 3: like musicals, like if you're down for that singing next
Speaker 3: to your locker and swooning around a railing.
Speaker 1: Right, But here's the thing.
Speaker 2: All the other musicals that are musicals will break into
Speaker 2: song about whatever they're doing, grease, lightning, whatever, whatever it
Speaker 2: is his hang up in the movie was that he
Speaker 2: thought it was going to be embarrassing to sing and dance, right,
Speaker 2: And he's explaining that to his friends who are singing
Speaker 2: and dancing with.
Speaker 1: Him next to him. So it's like, how do I
Speaker 1: tell my friend I want to sing? And his friend's like,
Speaker 1: you gotta tell me you can't want to sing, and
Speaker 1: it's like, but you're singing. So that was the thing
Speaker 1: for me.
Speaker 3: I think it was more on a broader term of
Speaker 3: not necessarily singing.
Speaker 4: It's about being a part of the drama.
Speaker 3: Group, which I get very separated from the you know,
Speaker 3: the jocks.
Speaker 1: That was that was it totally understand that.
Speaker 2: So then I literally as the first and seconds as
Speaker 2: the first song finished, and I'm like where they're both
Speaker 2: like I don't know if I should get up there
Speaker 2: and sing, and then they're both amazing singers. I was like,
Speaker 2: oh god, I'm gonna be in for it. And then
Speaker 2: I paused it. I literally pause it.
Speaker 4: I'm like, but at least they were doing karaoke.
Speaker 2: They were no, no, no, but wait, I paused it, and
Speaker 2: I was like, stop, stop watching it like this and
Speaker 2: watch it like you're supposed to watch it. Like you're
Speaker 2: a thirteen year old or whatever, you've never seen something
Speaker 2: like this before, watch it like that. And when I
Speaker 2: got into that mindset, I really enjoyed it because it
Speaker 2: was again the set.
Speaker 1: Pieces of the dancing are amazing.
Speaker 2: You've got entire gymnasiums of extras and actors and everybody
Speaker 2: dancing and sync. You've got Ashley Tisdale who kills it
Speaker 2: in this movie. She's funny and is just in character
Speaker 2: the whole time.
Speaker 1: It really works. It's very Disney.
Speaker 2: At the same time, you've got a great little love
Speaker 2: story going on between the two cutest characters in the world.
Speaker 2: Once I got out of my own way, right, I
Speaker 2: enjoyed it because but there was still plenty of things
Speaker 2: where I was like, wait a second, hang on again,
Speaker 2: and I will tell a little story about speaking to
Speaker 2: a Disney executive a little bit later about how something
Speaker 2: is very generational. But after I got out of my
Speaker 2: own way, I didn't have a problem with it.
Speaker 5: Again.
Speaker 2: It was it is what it is this movie. But
Speaker 2: it was also from the standpoint of filmmaking, it was
Speaker 2: interesting to see how they were trying to figure out
Speaker 2: the musical movie for Disney, right and see the growth
Speaker 2: from Cheetah Girls to this to then. I can't wait
Speaker 2: to see what the other sequels are going to do
Speaker 2: because you can tell that there it's going to be
Speaker 2: ratcheted up another notch and ratcheted up another notch.
Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see that.
Speaker 3: Well, because when we did The Cheetah Girls, it wasn't
Speaker 3: written or necessarily made to be a musical. Like our
Speaker 3: contracts didn't even include CD sales like music being sold
Speaker 3: as an album.
Speaker 4: It wasn't like that.
Speaker 3: So they did definitely, I mean we although it did well,
Speaker 3: it wasn't meant to be that way, so they did.
Speaker 3: They went about this in a more direct version. Let's
Speaker 3: give this generation their grease, right, yeah, you know, And
Speaker 3: I just felt like, even though you can see a
Speaker 3: little bit that they're still trying to figure things out.
Speaker 3: I'm so glad that they had Kenny Ortega on this
Speaker 3: movie because this is his wheelhouse.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: He was the one that choreographed and helped direct a
Speaker 3: lot of Michael Jackson, remember when he had these long
Speaker 3: I think it was smooth Criminal was like fifteen minutes
Speaker 3: or whatever, Newszi's.
Speaker 4: He was the choreographer in Newzy's.
Speaker 1: Oh Yeah, we're gonna to work. We're gonna be talking
Speaker 1: a lot about him.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, let's first get into the cast. The movie
Speaker 2: stars Zach Effron, obviously as Troy Bolton, great name an
Speaker 2: actor who became a Hollywood mainstay before HSM I like
Speaker 2: to say it. He'd appears on shows like Firefly and
Speaker 2: Er and starred on another program called Summerland alongside Lori
Speaker 2: Laughlin and Jesse McCartney. Since High School Musical, he would
Speaker 2: find massive success in comedies like Seventeen Again, Neighbors and
Speaker 2: Mike and Dave Need Wedding Dates, and of course, the
Speaker 2: musical The Greatest Showman. He would also return for the
Speaker 2: musicale Hairspray, but last year he changed appears a little
Speaker 2: bit and starred in the very intense wrestling drama Ironclaw,
Speaker 2: and a lot of people think he was completely and
Speaker 2: totally robbed at Award season.
Speaker 1: He was great in that film.
Speaker 2: His female co star is Vanessa Hudgens, who plays Gabriella Montes,
Speaker 2: another Hollywood darling. She really only appeared in the movie
Speaker 2: Thirteen and a few Disney episodes before getting cast in
Speaker 2: High School Musical, and not only went on to become
Speaker 2: the face of Nutrigina candies and apparently Coachella.
Speaker 1: She'd also become a pop star. Soon after this movie.
Speaker 2: She was cast in movies like Sucker Punch, Sprint Breakers,
Speaker 2: Machete Kills, Grease Live, and she was just in the big,
Speaker 2: huge summer hit Bad Boys Rider Die, which is the
Speaker 2: first movie that's actually done well this year. She recently
Speaker 2: married baseball player Cole Tucker and as soon to give
Speaker 2: birth to their first child.
Speaker 3: Congratulations baby, v I love that, so excited for you.
Speaker 2: Small note after filming the movie, which again this shows
Speaker 2: what a cultural phenomenon this was.
Speaker 1: Even I knew this.
Speaker 2: She and zach Efron were a big, real life power
Speaker 2: couple and they were together for many years. That's how
Speaker 2: you know it breaks through the cultural zeitgeist. When it's
Speaker 2: what two thousand and six, there's no real social media.
Speaker 2: I don't know who any of these people are.
Speaker 1: And even I knew Zac Efron and Vanessa Hutchins were.
Speaker 3: Dating, right, It was mega, mega They really were took
Speaker 3: Disney Channel movies and everything to an entirely new level.
Speaker 3: And I think they were together throughout the run of
Speaker 3: the franchise.
Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, together for years I think yes, Yeah.
Speaker 2: Ashley Tisdale plays villain Sharpey Evans, a name right from
Speaker 2: the Jackal Johnson playbook. She was a incredibly busy child
Speaker 2: actress before high school musical, starring on MGM sing Along Tape,
Speaker 2: then appearing on shows like Seventh Heaven, Smart Guy and
Speaker 2: Still Standing.
Speaker 1: She had the chops by the time she got to Disney.
Speaker 2: She would also form a music career after this movie,
Speaker 2: as well as a DVD spinoff for her character, and
Speaker 2: she'd go on to appear in so many things like
Speaker 2: to Bring It On sequel, Scary Movie, Five Sons of Anarchy,
Speaker 2: and Hellcats. She was also one of the stars of
Speaker 2: Disney Channel's Sweet Life of Zach and Cody, where she
Speaker 2: played Mattie Fitzpatrick. Kind of a big show on the channel,
Speaker 2: but her voice acting career has really been a bread
Speaker 2: and butter as Candace on Phineas and Ferb Sabrina on
Speaker 2: The Sabrina of the Teenage Which cartoon, and voices on Skylanders, Academy,
Speaker 2: Ginger Snaps, Family Guy, and a little show called Kim Possble.
Speaker 2: I worked with Ashley all the time and never met her.
Speaker 4: Wow, that's so crazy about so nuts.
Speaker 2: Corbin Blue played Chad dan Forth basketball player and Troy Powell.
Speaker 2: He's another example of an actor who had a successful
Speaker 2: music career after this movie, but also appeared in twenty
Speaker 2: thirteen's Sugar Camp hide Out and has been on Broadway
Speaker 2: for the musical in the Heights and Godspell, and is
Speaker 2: a fellow Dancing with the Star our runner up, like
Speaker 2: somebody Else to do here?
Speaker 4: He killed it on Dancing with the Stars.
Speaker 7: I didn't realize I've never seen a Dance with the
Speaker 7: Stars of my life epic epic.
Speaker 2: I would watch Dance with the Stars, but apparently, from
Speaker 2: what I've been told, there's a lot of dancing. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there are also so many great people in this movie.
Speaker 2: Let's just run through some others. We've got Lucas Gray
Speaker 2: Biale the scene stealer, as Sharpay's Fedora loving brother. Ryan
Speaker 2: Monique Coleman is Taylor Gabriella's new decathlon friend, Bart Johnson
Speaker 2: as basketball coach Jack Bolton, Troy's dad, And for listeners
Speaker 2: of our show, we interviewed his wife, Robin Lively for
Speaker 2: the greatest film ever made Fuzzbucket, Bucket, Buzz Bucket. We're
Speaker 2: still waiting for fuzz Bucket too, this time at personal.
Speaker 2: There are so many others in this movie, and we'll
Speaker 2: get to some of them throughout the recap. The movie
Speaker 2: runs ninety eight minutes, eight minutes above the Bullseye and
Speaker 2: is directed, as Sabrina Said by the legendary Kenny Ortega,
Speaker 2: who is a genuine Disney Hall of Famer. He was
Speaker 2: originally a choreographer who worked with Michael Jackson on the
Speaker 2: movie Xanadu, the Let's Get Physical music video for Livia
Speaker 2: Newton john the Material Girl video, Madonna Pretty in Pink,
Speaker 2: Dirty Dancing. It goes on and on and on. He
Speaker 2: would quickly transition into directing, first for music videos, then
Speaker 2: into movies like Newsi's Pocus Pocus and Cheetah Girls Too,
Speaker 2: and since taking a success so many ways since the
Speaker 2: High School Musical franchise, most importantly for this podcast, he
Speaker 2: moved right into the Descendants franchise for Disney, so he
Speaker 2: is still a Disney mainstay tent pole. You know you're
Speaker 2: getting something good when Kenny Ortega directs it. There is
Speaker 2: no way in the world this movie becomes as big
Speaker 2: as it does without Kenny Ortega, who directed so many
Speaker 2: elements of this movie. So as a resident expert because
Speaker 2: you worked with him. How hands on is he with
Speaker 2: everything going on in the film. What's it like working
Speaker 2: with this guy?
Speaker 3: Everything he I mean, he really is such an artist.
Speaker 4: I mean it's he is so into the drama. The
Speaker 4: what I really loved what he did with.
Speaker 3: My character and really helped was to develop a progression.
Speaker 3: He loved to since we were doing the second movie,
Speaker 3: it was about where taking you know, what was the
Speaker 3: first movie and where has this teenager young woman now
Speaker 3: transitioned into. So he wanted to take my my my
Speaker 3: character Derinda from being.
Speaker 4: You know, sort of not kind of tomboy, she was rougher.
Speaker 3: He wanted to really soften me because I was getting
Speaker 3: I was, you know, about to have a love interest.
Speaker 4: So I really loved that.
Speaker 2: But Joe has a love interest in the second one.
Speaker 2: Don't Ruin Anymore anymore?
Speaker 4: Okay, Okay, I don't know where to go from there.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I will say And and we actually
Speaker 3: talked about it during the Michael Healy interview.
Speaker 4: Was there's a dance sequence that I had And yeah, we.
Speaker 2: Talked about the is it that salsa but it's a
Speaker 2: tango tango right right.
Speaker 3: And the energy and I mean, can you imagine for
Speaker 3: me dancer, huge fan of Kenny, everything, Michael Jackson, you know,
Speaker 3: everything that he was, and then now I have this
Speaker 3: where it wasn't me and the other Cheetah girls, it
Speaker 3: was just my character with other dancers and it was
Speaker 3: I mean, imagine how it was waking up that day
Speaker 3: for me, amazing, I'm about to do this incredible scene
Speaker 3: with Kenny Ortega. I mean that's just what I kept saying, like,
Speaker 3: inch me somebody. It felt like a dream. It was
Speaker 3: amazing he is and I just you could just feel
Speaker 3: the energy. All of the people that were behind the
Speaker 3: camera were just looking around, going this is And it
Speaker 3: turned out so beautiful. It's one of my most proud
Speaker 3: moments that's on film. I loved it, and he was
Speaker 3: really amazing. He was over the top.
Speaker 5: He was.
Speaker 3: I mean he brought in all those kinds of fun
Speaker 3: things too, I mean, everything was. He did this a
Speaker 3: lot a lot during the movie. He wanted the panning,
Speaker 3: so he would constantly because we were in Barcelona, so
Speaker 3: he just the architect sure everywhere he wanted it panned down,
Speaker 3: and so you just saw him looking for where he
Speaker 3: wanted it, and I mean, I can't wait for you
Speaker 3: to see the movie because it's just so.
Speaker 2: Beautifulul okay, well, I can't wait to see it.
Speaker 1: I see it now.
Speaker 3: He was a dream to work with though, I mean,
Speaker 3: he really was. Everything he brought was phenomenal.
Speaker 1: What was What did you think of the dancing in
Speaker 1: this movie? Was? It was the dancing good in this
Speaker 1: movie in high school musical?
Speaker 4: So you know, for my I ream.
Speaker 3: Okay, so watching it back then and then now watching
Speaker 3: it as more of an older, a you know, adult. Sure,
Speaker 3: I remember watching it and going, I'm really glad that
Speaker 3: that's not how we dance in ours because it was
Speaker 3: less hip hop. And I loved that the Cheetah Girls
Speaker 3: was more of like a hip hop style, right, And
Speaker 3: then then I realized watching it back now, in the
Speaker 3: second movie, we do do a lot of dancing. That's
Speaker 3: more like that, you know, we are breaking out into
Speaker 3: dance in the second movie a lot more. And his
Speaker 3: lines and everything is just very big and he does
Speaker 3: he just so right on the money.
Speaker 4: And I loved them dancing. It's a little bit.
Speaker 3: More Disney, you know, yeah, musical look like it was
Speaker 3: more of like a musical theater. I Vibe Versus Ours
Speaker 3: was very hip hop, so I remember not really loving
Speaker 3: it back then, but watching it for this show, I
Speaker 3: was like, what.
Speaker 4: Was I I mean that, but those are they look great?
Speaker 4: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: It's nothing of dancing, Like, I know nothing of dancing,
Speaker 2: and I I thought the dancing and Teen Beach movie
Speaker 2: was better.
Speaker 3: Teen Beach, I would say, if I was gonna compare it,
Speaker 3: Team Beach was more of a like sort of kind
Speaker 3: of fossy style like the style of Yah.
Speaker 4: Team Beach was definitely more that.
Speaker 2: It just were tighter and more professional in Teen Beach
Speaker 2: kind of really okay. And again this is as somebody
Speaker 2: who knows nothing of dancing, so you could be like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you're wrong, that's not you're that's just incorrect.
Speaker 4: No, I think I think it was great it.
Speaker 3: Did you feel the vibe of Team Beach a little
Speaker 3: bit with gets you ahead in the game where they
Speaker 3: were using the basketball?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did, of course. Of course that's.
Speaker 4: Probably one of my favorite.
Speaker 3: I think that's my favorite routine and performance aspect of
Speaker 3: the movie of this one.
Speaker 5: Of this one.
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I wouldn't disagree that that was very very good.
Speaker 2: I like the last one at the end too, where
Speaker 2: the whole everybody's dancing together is Yes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when we get to the pep Rowley, I'm really excited.
Speaker 1: Yeah we will definitely.
Speaker 2: Well yes, So obviously this movie would not have been
Speaker 2: what it is without Kenny Ortega. It was written by
Speaker 2: Peter and I'm hoping I get this name right Barsaccini,
Speaker 2: who had written the nineteen ninety four Wesley Snipes movie
Speaker 2: Drop Zone, which again we keep coming back to.
Speaker 1: It's so strange, but.
Speaker 2: We keep coming back to Koronemic, Koran Nemic, who was
Speaker 2: in the Parker Lewis can't louse starting Drop Zone with Snipe,
Speaker 2: So for some reason we have a korn Nemic thing
Speaker 2: on this podcast. You know this guy he wrote Dropped
Speaker 2: Zone and is now probably an ridiculously rich man who
Speaker 2: wrote high school musical, dedicating it to his then daughter Gabriella,
Speaker 2: who he named the main character after.
Speaker 4: That is such a fun fact that I had no idea.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure are producers who are very excited
Speaker 3: about this because they're all very big high school musical fans.
Speaker 3: I wonder if they knew that because I love that
Speaker 3: little It is cool, what a great Snapple.
Speaker 2: Fact, isn't it, And honestly, you didn't need to know
Speaker 2: any more of his contribution to TV. But in twenty
Speaker 2: twenty one, he was credited writer on Vivo and animated
Speaker 2: musical for Sony that included original songs from Lynn Manuel Miranda.
Speaker 2: I already asked you how many songs you knew the
Speaker 2: words too, but I did not ask you who your
Speaker 2: favorite character was.
Speaker 1: Who was your favorite character in the movie.
Speaker 3: Oh, I mean, I know what You're gonna just roll
Speaker 3: your eyes at me. I loved Troy. It's not just
Speaker 3: because he's Zach Effrod and not because of all the
Speaker 3: reasons that I know you're thinking.
Speaker 1: It is, But it's mostly those reasons.
Speaker 4: Virtually, I can't I can't you know, deny any of that.
Speaker 3: But at the same time, I just love I just
Speaker 3: felt like he was such a nice guy.
Speaker 4: Is they set him up to be so likable?
Speaker 3: I mean it's not even just you want a date,
Speaker 3: you want your kid to date that kid like you.
Speaker 3: I mean, he was such the moment he has with
Speaker 3: her mom when he comes to the house.
Speaker 4: I know I'm jumping.
Speaker 3: Ahead, but what I mean if someone came to my
Speaker 3: house and a guy or a girl came to my
Speaker 3: house and was that polite. I would just you know what,
Speaker 3: you just come on it. You guys need to sort
Speaker 3: it out. Get in here, you cuty pie. Oh man,
Speaker 3: I get. I also love Gorbin Blue in this. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Ashley Tisdale, See it's tough because sharpay is this movie
Speaker 3: would not be the movie without Sharpey because she's so.
Speaker 2: Good and the girl who's the who's the actual like
Speaker 2: helps him sing in the choreographer.
Speaker 1: She was great too.
Speaker 4: Okay, did you recognize her?
Speaker 1: I thought, I did. What do I know her from?
Speaker 3: She's the character that I said in the movie we
Speaker 3: just did poof point I think she was one of
Speaker 3: the little frends.
Speaker 4: She's tiny, she's young.
Speaker 1: I am almost she is?
Speaker 5: That is her. Yep.
Speaker 4: When I saw her, I was like, yeah, so this.
Speaker 1: Was after she poof pointed. Okay, gotcha. Yeah, she had
Speaker 1: been poof pointed and now she's here. She upgraded. Let
Speaker 1: say they'll be exactly.
Speaker 2: All these actors, by the way, are now seen essentially
Speaker 2: as Disney Royalty, and they were making up to a
Speaker 2: million dollars each for the sequels, which again, wow for
Speaker 2: Disney paying is pretty amazing.
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, let's get into the.
Speaker 2: Movie itself, because I know that listeners have been waiting
Speaker 2: for this episode since we announced the podcast.
Speaker 1: So here we go.
Speaker 2: We open on New Year's Eve, and it's actually supposed
Speaker 2: to be Utah's is very rare because they normally disguise
Speaker 2: the state as something else, which they will do very soon.
Speaker 2: But we're in a resort where things are popping off
Speaker 2: for the countdown, except for the snow, which looks incredibly bad.
Speaker 1: And is only snowing on one half of the screen.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you notice that it is only snowing
Speaker 2: on the left side, the right, no snow at all.
Speaker 3: Very first, Sabrita Seas comes in right at that thirty
Speaker 3: second mark. You're going, uh, back, did we did we
Speaker 3: do we forget the left side?
Speaker 2: No? Okay, already, somebody pay the guy to do a
Speaker 2: little more snow because it's only snowing on the left
Speaker 2: half of the screen.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 2: So, Troy and his dad are too busy playing basketball
Speaker 2: on a full sized basketball court at this resort to
Speaker 2: actually go to the party. And it's another kind of
Speaker 2: snow resort we have. We have snow resorts or some
Speaker 2: type of resorts. A lot of Disney movies. Meanwhile, Vanessa
Speaker 2: Hudgens Gabriella is also too focused in something other than
Speaker 2: New Year's Eve, and that's reading.
Speaker 1: She's definitely a real bookworm.
Speaker 2: She's a school genius, and it seems like even a
Speaker 2: vacation is stopping her from doing what she really loves,
Speaker 2: which is learning. But they're both pressured by their families
Speaker 2: into going to a kid party at the resort, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, is a ridiculously huge.
Speaker 1: Part that it's just popping off.
Speaker 2: So it makes you wonder how many families are actually
Speaker 2: at this resort and just see ten thousand people, And
Speaker 2: even though they'd love to be anywhere, but they're they're
Speaker 2: randomly selected as a pair to do karaoke, and what
Speaker 2: are the chances? Despite all their anxiety, they both are
Speaker 2: world class singers. Instantly, their voices meshed perfectly. It is
Speaker 2: the world's greatest meet cute ever. And we get a
Speaker 2: song called something New in the first three minutes. And
Speaker 2: that's when I had to posit and get out of
Speaker 2: my own head because I was like, Oh, I'm so nervous.
Speaker 2: I can't get on stage. I'm nervous too, I can't
Speaker 2: get on stage.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm a world class singer. So I was like,
Speaker 1: this is a musical, dude, this is what's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: Get out of your own damn well.
Speaker 3: But I mean, first of all, seeing that obviously you've
Speaker 3: seen them now as their adults, and you know, looking
Speaker 3: at these two cuties that were so young.
Speaker 1: Oh man, I just get going.
Speaker 3: Look how young Vanessa is. She still has it like
Speaker 3: you know, I you know, it was so cute. They
Speaker 3: were kiddable, their little eyes, their chemistry right from the start.
Speaker 1: He takes off his jacket.
Speaker 2: But now this is where we need to acknowledge something,
Speaker 2: because everyone in the movie is actually singing except for
Speaker 2: zach Efron, and the first one is char was later dubbed,
Speaker 2: allegedly without his real knowledge, by another Disney actor, someone
Speaker 2: who would originally audition for the role, who we've talked
Speaker 2: about before in this podcast, Drew Seely Seely. A few
Speaker 2: lines in this whole movie were actually sung by zac Efron.
Speaker 2: We've already run into the same thing in another movie,
Speaker 2: but this one became a sort of folklore about this movie,
Speaker 2: and some are very critical of it. But it was
Speaker 2: never hidden or anything. Did you know this at the time?
Speaker 2: That he wasn't singing. This was a big thing that
Speaker 2: he was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I want to say the producer music producer,
Speaker 3: Robbie Neville. I want to say, I can't remember which
Speaker 3: one he was the one that told us about that,
Speaker 3: one of the producers, because he was on the show
Speaker 3: and he at some point the mixed voices together of
Speaker 3: some sort like they sort of transition him into then
Speaker 3: it only being Zach later on in the sequel.
Speaker 1: Which I yeah, I was gonna say, which I find
Speaker 1: very strange.
Speaker 2: They did that same thing, uh in teen Beach Movie,
Speaker 2: and then they let him sing for the second one,
Speaker 2: so obviously they can sing. So it's very strange because yeah,
Speaker 2: for those of you keeping score, as Zach Efron will
Speaker 2: return for the next two sequels, and then he did
Speaker 2: sing his part, right, so yeah, he's got a real
Speaker 2: Justin Bieber look to him, and he can obviously sing
Speaker 2: since he sang in the next two films.
Speaker 4: I was one, How did you feel like he did?
Speaker 3: As far as literal thinking, i'd yeah, I thought, there
Speaker 3: is one part when he there's no music and he's singing,
Speaker 3: and I'm going, wait.
Speaker 1: He's actually singing. I think he's actually.
Speaker 3: Had to have been, because it does not sound like
Speaker 3: your typical voiceover when they pre record.
Speaker 2: I think that's it's when he's getting ready for the
Speaker 2: audition and and the singing, and Ryan comes by and
Speaker 2: hears them. Yes, we're pretty sure that is actually zach Efron.
Speaker 2: So he can sing. Makes you wonder what decision was
Speaker 2: made at what level to dub him. So Troy and
Speaker 2: Gabriella vocally hit it off and do the sparks fly.
Speaker 2: Troy gets her number with his incredibly nostalgic flip phone,
Speaker 2: so when he tries to get to know her better,
Speaker 2: she's all of a sudden gone like a thief in
Speaker 2: the night. And then we find ourselves at school. East
Speaker 2: High in New Mexico is back in session and Troy
Speaker 2: is getting off the bus to his best pal Chad
Speaker 2: and well, frankly incredible fanfair. He's clearly the most popular
Speaker 2: kid in school, if not the entire state. Apparently the
Speaker 2: East High Wildcats basketball team is as important as it
Speaker 2: is at Duke Right, And this is the start of
Speaker 2: Kenny or Takes very impressive directing and why he was
Speaker 2: nominated for an Emmy because there is so much background
Speaker 2: in business and choreography. We travel throughout the school hallways,
Speaker 2: meeting our characters Queen theater kid and her brother, Sharpey
Speaker 2: and Ryan, the entire basketball team and cheerleaders, and the
Speaker 2: smart scholarly crew judging them. And guess who all of
Speaker 2: a sudden turns out to be a new student at
Speaker 2: East High. Yup, it's Gabriella, who was bullied for being
Speaker 2: too smart and too cute at her old school. And
Speaker 2: she was, you know, in homeroom with Troy, of course,
Speaker 2: which isn't homeroom done by alphabetical?
Speaker 1: So I thought it was alphabetical. Maybe I'm wrong.
Speaker 3: I think it depends on the teacher. Sometimes you'd have that.
Speaker 3: Sometimes they let you pick your seat.
Speaker 2: No, I meant alphabetical, like you're for whoever's in the
Speaker 2: class for homeroom is alphabetical. So for that same class,
Speaker 2: I thought they'd have the same alphabetical last or close
Speaker 2: to it.
Speaker 1: But I could be wrong.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So we do have a question about the homeroom,
Speaker 2: which is taught by the drama teacher with a large
Speaker 2: couch seat, missus Darbis played by Alison Reid.
Speaker 1: How long is homeroom?
Speaker 2: Because it feels like she makes a few announcements, then
Speaker 2: dismisses them ten minutes later.
Speaker 4: So you right, that was the quickest class ever, very
Speaker 4: very fast.
Speaker 1: Home room.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we didn't have a home room.
Speaker 3: You just had first period and it was your It
Speaker 3: could be your math class, it could be your English class,
Speaker 3: social no, nothing, it was just the very first You
Speaker 3: just go straight into your attendances taken out at first period.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we went.
Speaker 2: The school musicale is looking for sign ups, especially for
Speaker 2: the leads, which has to be a pair because you
Speaker 2: need to audition in pairs, which is not a thing
Speaker 2: anywhere ever. Sorry, that was weird. That was a weird thing.
Speaker 2: They could have rewritten that. It's just you don't audition
Speaker 2: in pairs. No, it's get the best person you.
Speaker 4: Can audition in a pair, and one of you can
Speaker 4: make it and the other place you can't.
Speaker 1: Or you mix and match and you put them together.
Speaker 1: So lost me right there.
Speaker 3: That's what callbacks are actually for, right, you mix math?
Speaker 2: Then Troy calls Gabriella to make sure it's actually her
Speaker 2: in class. The ringing phone gets almost the entire group
Speaker 2: detention because you're not supposed to have phones in your school, right, Yes, Wait,
Speaker 2: it's supposed to be. We've heard you, We've heard you
Speaker 2: talk about your similar experiences.
Speaker 4: Phone take it away.
Speaker 3: With your phone taken every day and second period.
Speaker 2: You would think eventually, Sabrina, you'd stop bringing your phone
Speaker 2: to second period, right.
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: Coach Bailey, who had to pick it up from every
Speaker 3: day by the third or fourth month, was like, dude,
Speaker 3: what is going on?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Anyway?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So the Utah New Year's Eve couple is back together,
Speaker 2: even though they didn't connect again at the lodger. Keep
Speaker 2: in touch, but Troy is up, which makes you wonder
Speaker 2: why didn't he actually call her? But Troy is already
Speaker 2: nervous that his friends will find out he sang with
Speaker 2: her what I can't let my friends know. I sung
Speaker 2: a song with the perfect pitch and key because I
Speaker 2: am a world class singer. And this is intensified when
Speaker 2: they stumble on the pair's musical sign up and Sharpey,
Speaker 2: who is of course being a mean girl to the
Speaker 2: new transfer, and she appears to like the varsity star Troy.
Speaker 2: We've talked about Astley Tisdelle. She's so good in this movie.
Speaker 2: So Troy floats the idea to his basketball team about
Speaker 2: the musical and of course is just shot down. This
Speaker 2: is where I'm gonna throw in a very quick story
Speaker 2: about Disney. So not too long ago, a couple of
Speaker 2: years now, I had an idea for a dcom and
Speaker 2: my friend and I as a producer writer, we came
Speaker 2: up with this great pitch and we met with somebody
Speaker 2: at Disney who was very high up in the dcom world.
Speaker 2: I won't say who, and she very politely listened to
Speaker 2: our pitch and then she stopped us and she went
Speaker 2: not even close.
Speaker 1: She said, the dcom is totally different. This is not
Speaker 1: what it's like.
Speaker 2: She said, to the point where this year, So this
Speaker 2: is a couple of years ago, she said, we had
Speaker 2: a group of one hundred kids that we sat down
Speaker 2: and we showed them high school Musical, our biggest hit ever.
Speaker 2: And to a person, they hated it. And she said,
Speaker 2: the reason they hated it is because none.
Speaker 1: Of them.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do the double night it because
Speaker 2: I'll put it this way, all of them now as
Speaker 2: kids multitask, basketball, theater, karate, tennis, Oh, whatever you want
Speaker 2: to do, that's what kids do. So they did not
Speaker 2: get the idea where it's like you want to be
Speaker 2: in theater and play basketball. Go be in theater and
Speaker 2: play basketball. That's that's It's not one or the other.
Speaker 2: And she was like, it was the most amazing eye
Speaker 2: opening thing. She said, We had one hundred kids ranging
Speaker 2: in age it was from like eight to fourteen. Every
Speaker 2: single one of them hated high school musical because they
Speaker 2: did not understand why the kid.
Speaker 1: Just didn't go and do both.
Speaker 2: So that as I think a generational thing where you
Speaker 2: can just do both. But back then, that was it, right,
Speaker 2: You're a theater kid, you were.
Speaker 1: A jack kid. Yeah, that's you picked your crew and
Speaker 1: that's what you.
Speaker 4: Were right, you know.
Speaker 3: And what is crazy on the to just kind of
Speaker 3: comment on that generational situation that is happening right now
Speaker 3: is I think they're setting kids up for a little
Speaker 3: bit of failure because the reality of the world is
Speaker 3: you can't you're sometimes you know what I mean, you
Speaker 3: start spreading yourself too thin, and these kids are so
Speaker 3: overwhelmed and overstimulated that they end up having a lot
Speaker 3: of anxiety issues. That's what I've seen within different schools
Speaker 3: that allow that. At some schools, you know, you can
Speaker 3: do sports, but they have to be a fall sport,
Speaker 3: a winter sport. You know, you can't do two winter
Speaker 3: sports because it's just so hard on the kids.
Speaker 4: You know, they're over tired.
Speaker 1: You said, setting them up for failure.
Speaker 2: I would be fine with that if they actually allowed
Speaker 2: the kids to fail, because you need to learn how
Speaker 2: to lose. That's a really important thing. So you coming
Speaker 2: in ninth you don't get a trophy for striking out
Speaker 2: and then running the third. Great, but that's how it
Speaker 2: is now. So kids think they can do everything and
Speaker 2: are succeeding at everything, where you've got to learn how
Speaker 2: to lose.
Speaker 1: It's so it's way more important than learning how to win.
Speaker 1: Learning how to lose.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tend to think that comes with a lot of media,
Speaker 3: Like what is it jack of all trades.
Speaker 4: Master of nothing, master of none? Right, that's like what
Speaker 4: ends up happening something?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Instead, I would rather someone be very dedicated to one
Speaker 3: or two things, not somewhat interested in and being a
Speaker 3: part of seventeen teens.
Speaker 1: That's yeah.
Speaker 2: But that was the thing about this movie is that
Speaker 2: it's it's now no longer lands with kids because kids
Speaker 2: feel like they can do everything and they're.
Speaker 3: All But do you think it is cool? That it
Speaker 3: is okay for a jock to go do the music theater.
Speaker 3: I love that it's a part of It's also good
Speaker 3: in a way of you know, everyone's included.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's also in high school.
Speaker 2: If you're trying to get into college, you want as
Speaker 2: many things on your resume as possible. Hey, wow, you
Speaker 2: were a star basketball player and on your audition for pairs.
Speaker 2: But that's that's incredible.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then during basketball practice, we learned there are only
Speaker 2: two weeks left before the big game where scouts will
Speaker 2: be so we get the very popular number in the
Speaker 2: one I still can't get out of my head. Our
Speaker 2: first upbeat tune, get your Head in the Game, which
Speaker 2: kicks off from a beat made by basketball dribbling and
Speaker 2: focuses on Troy sticky to sports. So this is him
Speaker 2: singing with his friends about how he doesn't want his
Speaker 2: friends to know he's singing. Also, zac Efron is very
Speaker 2: good at basketball, but the whole team gets involved in
Speaker 2: the singing and dancing, weaving in and out of practice,
Speaker 2: making sure you get the rebound, shoot the outside, JA,
Speaker 2: get my Head in the Game.
Speaker 1: This was your favorite one, right.
Speaker 3: Yes, And it's just a beat man. The beat is good.
Speaker 3: It is.
Speaker 4: I mean, it's so catchy.
Speaker 3: Nobody can hear this song and say that it is
Speaker 3: not stuck in their head.
Speaker 1: This is the catchy one for me. This is the
Speaker 1: one that made me go like, oh God, get out
Speaker 1: of my head. Was this song?
Speaker 4: It lasts forever and ever agreed. Oh, and then you
Speaker 4: watch the movie again and it's right back.
Speaker 1: It's right in your head.
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Gabriella continues to have issues with Sharpey, but she
Speaker 2: does start to reveal herself as a true brainiac, even
Speaker 2: correcting a teacher's equation when Sharpay finds out that she
Speaker 2: was a competitive decathlete at her old school. In hopes
Speaker 2: of keeping her way the musicale, she tips off the
Speaker 2: East High's team to recruiter, and Troy continues to be
Speaker 2: nervous about his friends and his dad finding out that
Speaker 2: he has a musical flare, but it doesn't stop the
Speaker 2: pair from sneaking into the audition separately and watching together,
Speaker 2: though they can't commit to outing themselves, him as a
Speaker 2: basketball star, her as a competitive smarty pants. And then
Speaker 2: we meet the real star of the movie, the unsung
Speaker 2: hero of the whole thing, Kelsey the piano playing composer
Speaker 2: played by Olyssa Rulin. I feel like she's actually the
Speaker 2: heart and soul of high school musical. She writes all
Speaker 2: the music and shar Pei is a real well jerk
Speaker 2: to her and so rude. I loved her and she
Speaker 2: was one of my favorite characters of the entire thing. Yes,
Speaker 2: so at the audition, Sharpei and her glitter cap brother
Speaker 2: excel with their version of the song What I've been
Speaker 2: looking for, which go back and listen to is just
Speaker 2: the theme from Full House.
Speaker 1: A what did you not notice this?
Speaker 2: No, the lyrics are different, but the music is just
Speaker 2: the theme from Full House. Go back and listen. It's
Speaker 2: the theme from No, Yes, it is. The whole time,
Speaker 2: I'm like, where do I know the song from?
Speaker 1: Where do I know?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: My god, it's the theme from Full houseow. But then,
Speaker 2: just when everyone leaves, Troy and Gabriella work with of
Speaker 2: course Kelsey who's the best on her version of the
Speaker 2: song and impress missus Darbis into a callback. But this
Speaker 2: exposes the two as possible musical leads, throwing Sharpey, the
Speaker 2: basketball team, and the decathletes into a thither. Don't these
Speaker 2: people know their social roles, and then that, just like
Speaker 2: we were talking about, don't they know their roles? Here
Speaker 2: comes what is another standout song and dance stick to
Speaker 2: the status quo, which is where the first time I
Speaker 2: really saw the choreography at another scale. When you've got
Speaker 2: the entire cafeteria, all the tables doing stuff. Forget about
Speaker 2: the fact I don't know if this is Sabrina Caesar
Speaker 2: or not, where no one has food in the.
Speaker 4: One No, there's not a sandwich or a bag of chips.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Vanessa walks out with the tray of food, and
Speaker 2: I thought they were all going to just stomp on
Speaker 2: her for food because they must be starving.
Speaker 1: No one has food in the entire thing.
Speaker 4: They needed those tables for danccene.
Speaker 1: Okay, well they could have still danced in had some food.
Speaker 2: But this is a cool song, a very disneyesque song,
Speaker 2: a song that is great for kids to hear. It's
Speaker 2: other kids kind of talking about exactly what their dreams are,
Speaker 2: and then friends telling them, hey, man, don't let anybody do.
Speaker 3: You see a range of different people like everyone it's
Speaker 3: just yep, it's such an amazing Disney moment, you feel.
Speaker 1: I agree, this is incredible.
Speaker 2: One basketball player admits he likes to bake a white
Speaker 2: girl on a roll, student loves hip hop popping and
Speaker 2: lock in a skater boy wants to play the cello.
Speaker 2: Huge extras dancing in the scene they fill the entire cafeteria.
Speaker 2: It's incredibly impressive and it's kind of brackets the know
Speaker 2: your role version right in this movie of what this
Speaker 2: movie is about.
Speaker 1: Is this the best scene in the movie, you think, I.
Speaker 3: I think it's definitely a very I mean, it's up
Speaker 3: there because the visual.
Speaker 1: Is just.
Speaker 4: So epic.
Speaker 3: I mean, how did they even find this incredible cafeteria
Speaker 3: that they have that was I mean, it's just.
Speaker 2: One with the two floors we saw when we were
Speaker 2: i mean talking to Jason Dolly, it's it's they this
Speaker 2: this reason they shoot at these schools in Utah and that's.
Speaker 3: School incredible, amazing, and I just it just gave for
Speaker 3: so many opportunities of like what I could see Kenny
Speaker 3: just envisioning it from the top to the bottom. Well
Speaker 3: that's nothing when I no, no page was not turned.
Speaker 3: He thought of it all.
Speaker 1: He does layers.
Speaker 2: Yes, you know, there's like like at the end, there's
Speaker 2: kids on the bleachers, there's kids in the foreground, there's
Speaker 2: kids halfway up the bleachers. I mean, he's he's leveling
Speaker 2: every kind of dance. Where again, as somebody who not
Speaker 2: a fan of dance, not a fan of singing, even
Speaker 2: I noticed the complexity where it's like, damn, everybody's they're
Speaker 2: on tables and they're doing this, and they're doing right
Speaker 2: really impressively.
Speaker 4: So I don't necessarily love like the beat of that.
Speaker 3: This isn't my favorite catchy song, but the production and
Speaker 3: the schiography and the scale of this routine is just
Speaker 3: you can't not totally.
Speaker 4: I appreciate everything that went into it, and I love
Speaker 4: how it ends.
Speaker 3: Ashley Tizil just getny literated by the by this food.
Speaker 4: And her reaction is so good. She just nails this.
Speaker 1: She was very good at this.
Speaker 4: It's probably my favorite moment for her.
Speaker 1: We've got to find a way to get her on
Speaker 1: the podcast.
Speaker 4: I know, she's so fun.
Speaker 2: We'll tricker, we'll tell her it's something else we'll get,
Speaker 2: we'll tell her we're giving in her warders.
Speaker 3: Right, and she's death that kid to go back and
Speaker 3: talk about. Like her resume, she was.
Speaker 4: Probably I swear if it was a big role audition.
Speaker 4: She was at every.
Speaker 3: Single one sort I remember walking in and going, damn it,
Speaker 3: she's here against Ashley.
Speaker 4: She is unbeatable, this girl.
Speaker 2: So apparently she is pregnant right now and hopefully we're
Speaker 2: hoping to get her for High School Musical two. So, Ashley,
Speaker 2: I don't know if you're ever to hear this, but
Speaker 2: we love you and we want to talk to you,
Speaker 2: and we got to talk him possible too, because we're
Speaker 2: supposed to.
Speaker 1: Know each other.
Speaker 4: Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.
Speaker 2: The song ends with Gabriella accidentally pouring nachos and a
Speaker 2: very angry and Jello Sharpey and Miss Darbus busting them up,
Speaker 2: and the new fear that the basketball team and the
Speaker 2: players also want to do other things when they should
Speaker 2: be getting ready for the big game. This also creates
Speaker 2: a bit of tension between Coach Bolton and Miss Darbus,
Speaker 2: a side story that really doesn't go anywhere, but you know,
Speaker 2: it worked, and I get where they were against each other.
Speaker 2: But then the story that really worked was the main
Speaker 2: love story. Troy and Gabriella want to talk about their
Speaker 2: auditioning dilemma, so they meet on the school's roof, which
Speaker 2: is also apparently a nursery. They make the decision to
Speaker 2: fully dive into the callback and study the song all
Speaker 2: over the school while avoiding their rivals, in a bit
Speaker 2: of a montage that leads to Troy coming very late
Speaker 2: to basketball practice and his dad having a bit of
Speaker 2: a standoff with him and Gabriella.
Speaker 1: The new friend is ruining his son, and the team is.
Speaker 2: Very scared, so scared that they approach that the cathlon
Speaker 2: members and come up with a plan to make the
Speaker 2: new couple dislike each other and leave the musicale behind.
Speaker 2: Did you think that this was a plan that that
Speaker 2: would keep them from doing it? It just seemed kind of
Speaker 2: tacked on to me. It was a bit poorly planned
Speaker 2: where it was like trying.
Speaker 1: To break them up. I mean, hey, he cheated on you.
Speaker 4: Yes, this was kind of convoluted to me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just kind of just I don't know, I mean,
Speaker 3: let's create some conflict.
Speaker 1: Okay, I do it better than that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it should have been.
Speaker 1: You know, it was not a great plan for me, right,
Speaker 1: I thought.
Speaker 2: The basketball team creates a little pep talk, telling Troy
Speaker 2: about all the legends in the past, wildcat teams and
Speaker 2: telling them that they need him. And on the other
Speaker 2: side of the school, the decathletes explain that jocks and
Speaker 2: actors are the worst people ever and education is the.
Speaker 1: Future of America. So the results are a little confusing.
Speaker 2: Here, Troy goes with enthusiasm so much so he calls
Speaker 2: Gabriella just some girl he met. She's not important, and
Speaker 2: singing is just away for him to calm his nerves
Speaker 2: when he gets ready to give one hundred and ten
Speaker 2: percent at the basketball game. They're also, of course filming this,
Speaker 2: and they hide the camera not at all.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw that.
Speaker 2: It's like they might as well just be holding a
Speaker 2: camera in his face like this as they film it,
Speaker 2: at least a bit circumspect of putting the camera on
Speaker 2: the thing. I herew around it, like really, hey, I'm
Speaker 2: going to try to hide that.
Speaker 1: You're yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: They show the footage to Gabriella. She cries, and now
Speaker 2: she calls the audition off. She's into maths. He's a baller,
Speaker 2: and Vanessa Hudgens gets her solo song when There was
Speaker 2: Me and You, and she's walking through the hallways very
Speaker 2: distraught and singing.
Speaker 3: This was for me a good representation of showing her
Speaker 3: to when she really found herself as a musical artist.
Speaker 3: She does not look comfortable doing the movement that has
Speaker 3: been given to her, and I felt for her because
Speaker 3: I know what that feels like when you're given movement
Speaker 3: and you're like, there's a song that I have, but
Speaker 3: I just can't watch because I can just tell, like I.
Speaker 4: Really wasn't in love with what I was doing and.
Speaker 2: It felt awkward, or in the second or third one,
Speaker 2: in the second or third it's the second one, Okay,
Speaker 2: don't tell me, don't tell me if I can pick
Speaker 2: it out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just you know, I felt for her because
Speaker 3: it just didn't feel and she does definitely progress and
Speaker 3: find her own way, and I'm sure I'm sure too.
Speaker 3: By the second and third movie, she was probably given
Speaker 3: a little bit more freedom to do stuff.
Speaker 4: That felt better for her.
Speaker 3: But this was hard for me to watch because she's
Speaker 3: such an incredible artist, she really is, and her voice
Speaker 3: is great, and so I could just tell that she
Speaker 3: just didn't.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's not that she didn't commit.
Speaker 3: She didn't she fully commit, but you could tell she
Speaker 3: wasn't super comfortable.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it also wasn't my favorite song if I'm honest.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, There's just so many other great songs. This
Speaker 4: isn't the the one.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then, in one of the quickest movie one eighty
Speaker 2: turnarounds of all time, the basketball team finds a very
Speaker 2: sad Troy back on the nursery roof and admits to
Speaker 2: their trickery. They don't want to stop his audition with manipulation,
Speaker 2: which is still debatable. At the same time, the decathletes
Speaker 2: admit their involvement to Gabriella and now the audition might
Speaker 2: be back on, especially when Troy shows up at her
Speaker 2: house your Favorite scene to apologize over a flip phone,
Speaker 2: then shows up on her second story patio to sing
Speaker 2: at her, FYI this is his real Okay, okay, and
Speaker 2: so we hear. We get another montage. Both Troy and
Speaker 2: Gabriella are still working hard in their respective feels, but
Speaker 2: also practicing for the audition again. Kids being able to
Speaker 2: do more than one thing you both, which is honestly
Speaker 2: something I was asking if they could do.
Speaker 1: Since the start of the movie. But there's one more
Speaker 1: hurdle of jump.
Speaker 2: In Act three, Sharpey and her brother convinced miss Darbus
Speaker 2: to make the callback at the same time as the
Speaker 2: basketball game and to cathalon meet, and they do it
Speaker 2: in a really tricky way. They asked her to which
Speaker 2: she does. Literally, that's all they say. They ask her,
Speaker 2: and she's so she's in on it.
Speaker 3: I this was confusing to me as far as a
Speaker 3: teacher goes. Why to change to do a schedule change
Speaker 3: is kind of a big deal, right, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: everyone would need to be notified and whatever, And it
Speaker 3: was strangely, was she trying to sabotage?
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's what it is. I think they're
Speaker 2: showing I think what they were trying to do.
Speaker 3: Well, why did she let them try out to the beginning,
Speaker 3: because her original answer at first was no.
Speaker 1: You guys must then she heard them sing, and she
Speaker 1: heard them were so.
Speaker 4: Good that she's allowing it.
Speaker 2: I think they were trying to set it up where
Speaker 2: this is why they were trying to set up the
Speaker 2: conflict between her and his dad. Okay, I think to
Speaker 2: then it's like I'm going to get back and your
Speaker 2: dad kind of. But it didn't really work, particularly when
Speaker 2: it just made her super mean. She was already a
Speaker 2: weird character, but now she's a vindictive, weird.
Speaker 4: Character and a vindictive teacher. Yes to me, that is
Speaker 4: you know what.
Speaker 2: Well, it's like the principal for a minute. Man, you
Speaker 2: know it was like it's like you just want to
Speaker 2: see we.
Speaker 7: Can't go back to him. I'm not going to cat
Speaker 7: back there. We can forward, Sabrina, You're like, we got
Speaker 7: to look forward. Yes, So it was very strange. It
Speaker 7: also seems like, why wouldn't she want to find.
Speaker 2: The two the best people who have the chemistry, who
Speaker 2: are clearly phenomenal singers.
Speaker 3: Right, Why wouldn't she want to find the best for
Speaker 3: her production that does nothing but highlight you agree, positive
Speaker 3: successful way whatever, lady, you're out of your.
Speaker 1: Mind, agreed.
Speaker 2: But the basketball team and the decathletes and even his
Speaker 2: coach Dad aren't going to let this ruin their plans.
Speaker 2: They're going to work together now to make sure Troy
Speaker 2: and Gabrielle up make the callback.
Speaker 1: It's the big day.
Speaker 2: And while the callbacks have begun with Sharpay and Ryan
Speaker 2: singing Bop to the top, did the Kathleen tack into
Speaker 2: the gym power lines and shut everything down? This is
Speaker 2: where I love all the different groups working together. You
Speaker 2: get the nerds doing something. You get the beast ball
Speaker 2: team doing something. It was great, right, So they're gonna
Speaker 2: shut everything down, giving Troy a chance to run out
Speaker 2: mid game, while also letting one of their science experiments
Speaker 2: get out of hand and evacuate the room. And not
Speaker 2: only do Troy and Gabriella make the audition, but all
Speaker 2: of the audience members from both big events pile into
Speaker 2: the theater to watch them overcome nerves and sing break
Speaker 2: and Free, which is Kelsey's newest jam. A big moon
Speaker 2: even descends from the ceiling, which makes me ask is
Speaker 2: this the show or was this just for the callback? Yeah,
Speaker 2: but it's a great audition. The crowd goes nuts and
Speaker 2: they get the part. They get the part. This is great,
Speaker 2: you got the part, kid got it. Eventually, the basketball
Speaker 2: game restarts and Troy hits the buzzer beater to win
Speaker 2: an East Hide also wins the decathlon. We know that
Speaker 2: because Gabriella runs up and just says, we won too.
Speaker 1: We don't get to see the decathlon. Everyone has a
Speaker 1: very happy ending. Yeah I am too, I am too
Speaker 1: if I'm honest.
Speaker 2: Ever, because weird tocathletes, not a lot of rhymes with that.
Speaker 1: Everyone has a happy ending.
Speaker 2: A bunch of the students pair off into possible couples,
Speaker 2: and Sharpey even Earn honestly congratulates Gabriella, even.
Speaker 1: Though she will now be her understudy.
Speaker 2: By the way, break a leg in theater means good luck,
Speaker 2: which is a little unearned of a character change. But
Speaker 2: you gotta do the Haylar Russo great match at the
Speaker 2: end of Kriti Kit. You gotta do it to save
Speaker 2: the character a little bit. Yeah, Kelsey gets a nice
Speaker 2: acknowledgment as the brain's the whole thing. Then we get
Speaker 2: the big final number with everyone, and I mean everyone.
Speaker 2: They must have brought the entire state of Utah out
Speaker 2: for the whole jim filled singing and dancing too. We're
Speaker 2: all in this together, which is a pretty iconic scene
Speaker 2: that is used for most references in the movie. It's
Speaker 2: a pop culture phenomenon and that's kind of the end.
Speaker 2: We do get a post credit scene of Sharpay and Zeke,
Speaker 2: who are now love interests. She's obsessed with the cookies.
Speaker 2: He bakes a callback to his wish he had beyond
Speaker 2: basketball and she looks at the camera, which is the
Speaker 2: first fourth wall break.
Speaker 1: There was something else that. I had a question for.
Speaker 2: All of the extras that are also dancing, also mouthing
Speaker 2: along with the song when they pre record everything, did
Speaker 2: they have five hundred people really singing the song on
Speaker 2: the track?
Speaker 1: How did that work?
Speaker 3: So normally, so what you would do is you'd get
Speaker 3: I don't know how many they did, but you just double.
Speaker 1: The voices and you get ten people, and then you
Speaker 1: keep double them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you just stack stack the tracks on couple of
Speaker 3: each other. It starts to sound like there's.
Speaker 2: Because you know, like the first one they did where
Speaker 2: everybody's trying I want to bake crem brule and then
Speaker 2: the people at the table were like, don't don't tell
Speaker 2: anybody that did each of those people who seem to
Speaker 2: be extras but were singing, did they record their own track?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: I doubt it. No, it was probably tempt stuff. Okay, yeah, yeah, gotcha.
Speaker 3: You know the producers that they have friends that they
Speaker 3: could pull in. You know, they've also like producers usually
Speaker 3: have demo singers, so you get you'll get you know,
Speaker 3: all these songs were demos that were submitted to Disney,
Speaker 3: and Disney picks the songs that make sense or write
Speaker 3: them and even if they're writing specifically for it, they'll
Speaker 3: have their demo, like they hire demo people to do it,
Speaker 3: So those there are probably more of like the demo
Speaker 3: singers that they know on that got paid to go
Speaker 3: ahead and do these little bits and bops.
Speaker 1: Can we do real reviews?
Speaker 4: Yes we can.
Speaker 3: This is a long review, guys, this five star, five
Speaker 3: star doing this person really really loves this movie, as
Speaker 3: so many do. You are not really a Disney person
Speaker 3: if you don't love high school musical.
Speaker 4: It's true. This is from Mela.
Speaker 3: One time in class we had to do this thing
Speaker 3: where you list your top three favorite movie characters, and
Speaker 3: I said Troy Bolton for every single spot. Then another time,
Speaker 3: our school was playing a city called Troy, and I
Speaker 3: looked at my bestie across the room in mouth Troy
Speaker 3: Bolton quote unquote. So like, everyone at my school knows
Speaker 3: I am literally in love with Troy Bolton, and so
Speaker 3: they tease me by saying, hey, Troy Bolton is behind you.
Speaker 3: And when I tell you, my head turns faster than
Speaker 3: you can say Troy Bolton.
Speaker 4: Believe me, Thank you, Mel.
Speaker 1: That's Mela.
Speaker 2: Does Mel really believe that Troy Bolton is behind her
Speaker 2: at school, not even zac Efron, It's Troy Bolton.
Speaker 4: Does she know that it's played by a guy named
Speaker 4: Zach Well.
Speaker 2: I love how she literally every time like my friends
Speaker 2: tell me that, and I turn around every time thinking
Speaker 2: this fictional character is really going to be standing behind me.
Speaker 3: Oh man, you know, I feel that in her heart
Speaker 3: it could happen, and I wish you's the best of luck.
Speaker 2: This is by far, everything about my one star review
Speaker 2: is the best thing I've ever read in my life.
Speaker 2: It's up there with Shakespeare and Chaucer. It is absolutely wonderful.
Speaker 1: Including the name.
Speaker 4: Starts with the name.
Speaker 2: So this is a one star review from Arnold the Dinosaur.
Speaker 2: And if I get loud, it's because it's in all caps. Okay,
Speaker 2: this movie is filled with lies. When this movie came out,
Speaker 2: I was so excited for high school breaking into song,
Speaker 2: the low key fire dance numbers and so on. But
Speaker 2: lo and behold, high School is nothing like that. There
Speaker 2: is no singing, no dancing, no breaking into song, and
Speaker 2: no low key fire dancing numbers. Dreams were crushed my
Speaker 2: first day when I started singing breaking Free, and I
Speaker 2: got sent to the hospital because they thought that I
Speaker 2: had some sort of illness. Needless to say, don't watch
Speaker 2: this movie and you unless you want a false perception
Speaker 2: of life.
Speaker 1: One star Arnold a dinosaur. It's brilliant, it's great.
Speaker 4: God get a grip.
Speaker 2: I love it, I love it, and it's all in
Speaker 2: capsy is filled.
Speaker 4: With parents have not done you justice.
Speaker 3: It has the idea that you would think that you
Speaker 3: would watch a movie that's how real.
Speaker 4: Life is one hundred percent going to be.
Speaker 2: You're hilarious, but mel A is okay thinking that a
Speaker 2: fictional character is behind us. Both these people need some help.
Speaker 2: We're going to play a new game this week, which
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be honest, I'm not entirely sure of. It's
Speaker 2: a feature called BAFO box Office. Since this week's episode
Speaker 2: is all about musicals, and while you are much closer
Speaker 2: than I am, neither of us are really musical experts,
Speaker 2: we will take turns guessing which musical theater productions are
Speaker 2: in the list of top ten highest grossing of all time. Wow,
Speaker 2: these are all classics. We've definitely heard of. Whoever can
Speaker 2: name the most in five chances each Wit and now
Speaker 2: producer Jensen. My question is, are these Broadway shows? Are
Speaker 2: these musical movies.
Speaker 1: What are these?
Speaker 4: We have to just spit them out.
Speaker 5: Well, they're musical productions. Yeah, you guys, they're musical plays.
Speaker 1: Okay there musical Okay, I think I've got them.
Speaker 5: Then I think I know you think about it, you'll
Speaker 5: be able to pull them. It just depends on how
Speaker 5: many of your five guesses you'll get, right, Okay, will
Speaker 5: you go.
Speaker 1: For I'll start. I'm going to start with Cats because
Speaker 1: Cats was around forever.
Speaker 5: Siously, Cats is like number thirteen does not make the
Speaker 5: top ten. Yeah, so we'll already with an X.
Speaker 1: That was it possible?
Speaker 4: Way to go.
Speaker 5: Already talking back not waiting there was like.
Speaker 4: Well I would start with Grease.
Speaker 5: Greece also not on the list. I feel like Greece
Speaker 5: not being on the list is actually that makes them
Speaker 5: the movie with the real success there.
Speaker 2: But go, okay, all right, so then my next guest
Speaker 2: is going to be wait, I get another guess.
Speaker 5: Yep, Hamilton. Hamilton is number four. That's your first?
Speaker 4: All right?
Speaker 5: That one?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 4: I almost guess something that's not even a movie.
Speaker 5: This is like it runs out to people here, I'm
Speaker 5: a white person, and then you can't come up with it.
Speaker 1: Exactly.
Speaker 5: Her spray is not on the list.
Speaker 4: You're kidding me right now, this is this is not true.
Speaker 1: I don't believe it.
Speaker 5: Jack List. You'll hear the list.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay. My next guest then, is going to
Speaker 1: be Phantom of the Opera.
Speaker 5: Phantom of the Opera is number three, So Willows two sho, Sabrina,
Speaker 5: you gotta hit these, let's go.
Speaker 4: I cannot think of anything right now.
Speaker 5: This is the name of white person game.
Speaker 4: This is so hard.
Speaker 1: I got another one. I got another one. I've got
Speaker 1: two more.
Speaker 5: I mean, we'll can lock it down with two more.
Speaker 5: And he knows he's got him.
Speaker 1: Right when I say this to sabrinas can be like.
Speaker 5: Damn it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, hold on, no, I've got nothing.
Speaker 5: Name a white person, Sabriana.
Speaker 7: Okay, Jim Garrey.
Speaker 1: My my next guess is going to be Wicked.
Speaker 4: I was gonna say Wicked, but it's not a movie.
Speaker 5: It does not a movie. Oh, Wicked.
Speaker 1: Okay, Wicked's number two.
Speaker 4: Okay, yes, I was gonna say Wicked before you can
Speaker 4: you can redeem yourself here, So just Chicago.
Speaker 5: Chicago's number six.
Speaker 1: Oh what.
Speaker 5: Number six? All right? Will you you've already conquered this
Speaker 5: purely based on super and not fully understanding.
Speaker 1: It was just probably, which works well for me.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so this is one more to lock it down.
Speaker 4: I've got I've got one.
Speaker 5: One to lock it down to be Rent Rent actually
Speaker 5: not in the top ten, but I think it's because
Speaker 5: it wasn't like a very expensive ticket. Really, you can
Speaker 5: make it close at least with this last one. Lion
Speaker 5: King Lyon King is number one. Okay, prove she would
Speaker 5: have been much better. But the list goes yes, Wicked,
Speaker 5: Phantom of the Opera, Hamilton, Book of Mormon, Iago, Aladdin,
Speaker 5: Mama Mia, Jersey Boys Lay Miss Mamma Mia.
Speaker 4: Interesting, Wait what was the last one?
Speaker 1: La Miss Lay Miss miss Kay. Yeah?
Speaker 4: Wow, well well well.
Speaker 1: Bye, thank you, producer Jensen.
Speaker 2: I know far more about musical theater than I thought
Speaker 2: for somebody who doesn't like people who are just breaking
Speaker 2: the song strange, Oh man, is it.
Speaker 1: Possible that we could do so?
Speaker 2: Sees see, I'm breaking a song for no reasons.
Speaker 3: Okay, so right from the start I'm watching it again.
Speaker 3: I loved watching this now because we've seen especially Zach
Speaker 3: and Vanessa just just flourish, right, and they just so
Speaker 3: it was so fun to see them in something when
Speaker 3: they were so young and you know, fresh, fresh face
Speaker 3: and everything. So I had a question of in my
Speaker 3: head as soon as they did their first little duet.
Speaker 3: First of all, didn't you think when they were I
Speaker 3: thought they were going to kiss. I'm like, we're going
Speaker 3: to get a duet and a kiss right from the start.
Speaker 4: They didn't.
Speaker 3: Kissing right away happened to us so quickly. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: it was so funny. But I wondered how much for
Speaker 3: that little scene. Obviously they weren't going to need to
Speaker 3: rehearse that one very often, right, it was an easy,
Speaker 3: easy go.
Speaker 4: I wondered how much.
Speaker 3: Kenny had to give Zach because Zach was moving really well.
Speaker 1: And he takes his coat off, and yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: I wanted to I was wondering I'd love again.
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, I would love to talk to Zach and
Speaker 3: Vanessa about the filming of this movie to see how much.
Speaker 1: Well you got to put a call into Kenny and
Speaker 1: get him on our podcast.
Speaker 3: I tried to reach out to Kenny too, and we
Speaker 3: haven't heard back yet. We will get Kenny. We will
Speaker 3: have to, Yes, we have to. And then I just
Speaker 3: had to write it down that giant Matt Hatter hat
Speaker 3: that was Solisippi.
Speaker 1: There was some strange hat choices in this entire movie.
Speaker 2: Can you tell me why the band at the end
Speaker 2: are all dressed like the Guardian Angels. Just everybody's in
Speaker 2: your red berets just wait to fight crime.
Speaker 3: And you did touch on my other My next thing
Speaker 3: was the cell phones in this movie really took you back.
Speaker 3: I had a pink sidekick that Sharpay has where it
Speaker 3: like flips up, flips down, flips up. I mean, if
Speaker 3: you talk to anyone that knew the Cheetah Girls while
Speaker 3: we were doing these movies, we were all about our sidekicks.
Speaker 3: So that took me back to a really good moment
Speaker 3: of the sidekicks. They were so fun and wow, they
Speaker 3: got to bring those back because those are so fun.
Speaker 1: They should loved it.
Speaker 3: And then the only other thing, like I said, I
Speaker 3: loved this movie. The only other thing was these random
Speaker 3: ass lights that they put in front of Gabriella's house,
Speaker 3: Like just the string of Christmas lights just on the pillars,
Speaker 3: so random, so not needed. House was cute, didn't need.
Speaker 3: Just someone need to do that, just throw up some lights.
Speaker 4: So that was it.
Speaker 3: Other than that everything was great. Loved it, love, love,
Speaker 3: love this movie.
Speaker 2: So that's it, Okay, and now's the time where we
Speaker 2: are going to rate this film one being bad, ten
Speaker 2: being amazing. Our options this week we're going to do
Speaker 2: one out of ten, drama teacher love seats, one out
Speaker 2: of ten, zach Efron dubbed singing voices, one out of ten,
Speaker 2: flip phones one out of ten, quick homeroom classes one
Speaker 2: and a ten sharpay brother Fedoras, or one out of
Speaker 2: ten fourth wall breaking end credit scenes. I'm also gonna
Speaker 2: add one out of ten. You want to hide the
Speaker 2: fact that you want to be a singer by singing
Speaker 2: with all your friends about it? So what do you
Speaker 2: want to use?
Speaker 4: Rina? You picked this week? I feel like I picked last.
Speaker 1: I'm picking this week. I'm gonna pick quick homeroom classes.
Speaker 2: Okay, I've how to change it to ridiculously quick home
Speaker 2: room classes.
Speaker 1: And I think, do I pick first? Do I go first?
Speaker 1: This week?
Speaker 4: You go first?
Speaker 2: All right, I'll go first this week. If I wasn't
Speaker 2: able to get out of my own way, I would
Speaker 2: not have rated this movie particularly high.
Speaker 1: This would have been a four or five for me.
Speaker 1: What are they thinking? What's going on.
Speaker 2: I couldn't believe it getting out of my own way
Speaker 2: and just sitting back and enjoying it and also realizing
Speaker 2: that it's genesis of these movies. What this ended up doing,
Speaker 2: the cast they put in there, the amount of choreography
Speaker 2: that went in the direction.
Speaker 1: I am giving this movie a solid nine. Wow it is.
Speaker 4: That's gotta be your besides the.
Speaker 1: Going to the Matt and color of Friends to the.
Speaker 4: Matt and Color of French. And it's your highest rating.
Speaker 2: It is because the cast is, like I said, the
Speaker 2: cast is phenomenal. Yes, I am not. I will never
Speaker 2: be a musical guy. I just don't like when people know.
Speaker 2: So I have to get out of my own way
Speaker 2: and realize what this movie is and for what this
Speaker 2: movie is, it's a great version of it.
Speaker 1: Yes, So I'm going to give this movie a nine.
Speaker 1: I really am.
Speaker 2: It started a billion dollar franchise and I can understand,
Speaker 2: so I'm giving it nine.
Speaker 1: Ridiculously quick homeroom classes.
Speaker 4: I'm going to match your nine.
Speaker 3: I honestly do not remember the second or third movies.
Speaker 3: I just know there's a pool in the second one,
Speaker 3: so I know that it gets better even you know
Speaker 3: what I mean? That the that it goes bigger and
Speaker 3: better every time. So I'm gonna go with the nine
Speaker 3: because I know we're in for some really great musical
Speaker 3: in the future. Nine quick homeroom classes.
Speaker 1: All that is amazing, Thank you, folks.
Speaker 2: And this week we can't believe it either, but we're
Speaker 2: talking more about high school musical with Chad.
Speaker 1: Himself Corbyn Blue.
Speaker 2: Yes, we'll be interview on our dedicated magical rewind feed.
Speaker 2: To make sure to follow us there in the meantime,
Speaker 2: here's a small snippet of that time.
Speaker 8: The audition price for musical came about because of Hannah Montana.
Speaker 3: Okay, that was how that all began because I I.
Speaker 8: Auditioned for Anna Montana booked that I was Miley's first
Speaker 8: love interest in the in the pilot episode get Out.
Speaker 8: Yeah that was That was that and then that of
Speaker 8: course that that began the relationship with Judy Taylor.
Speaker 5: In to read for for high School Musical.
Speaker 2: And that'll be on our magical rewind feed this week.
Speaker 2: It was so much fun to talk to him. Don't
Speaker 2: miss out. Well, there you go, everybody, high school Musical.
Speaker 1: We did it. I liked it. I had to get
Speaker 1: out of my own way when I enjoyed it, I know.
Speaker 2: Our next movie is the weirdly titled twenty eleven musical
Speaker 2: Lemonade Mouth.
Speaker 3: I had no idea what hell, but we have gotten
Speaker 3: and we proved to you guys that we hear you,
Speaker 3: We see your comments, we listen.
Speaker 4: We're watching it and doing to rewatch the Lemonade Mouth.
Speaker 2: It's on Disney Plus as well, So go and get
Speaker 2: it for whatever the hell that's gonna be. And remember
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Speaker 2: you for johning us and breaking in the song for
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