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Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace. It's one thing for anger to

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Speaker 1: shooting at Christmas. Again. I'm Nancy Grace, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: Joseph Scott Morgan, Professor Forensics, Jacksonville State University, author of

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Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us from LA. You can find

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Speaker 1: the Grapevine PD. Alison Jones, a very dear friend to

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Speaker 1: the players in this case. You just heard that nine

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Speaker 1: us at this point this morning. The seven victims are

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00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: all reportedly related. Again, four women and three men between

429
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: the ages of fifteen and fifty eight years old. They

430
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: were all found inside of this apartment, though we're told

431
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: not all of them lived here at this apartment. Alison,

432
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: when did you find out that your little best friend

433
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: and junior senior high was murdered by her dad dressed

434
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: as Santa? Well, what shortly after eleven thirty, so it's probably,

435
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, eleven forty five noon around then. We

436
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: were having Christmas at our house and all of a

437
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,239
Speaker 1: sudden we look outside and there's several police cars in

438
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: front of our house. They were parking, you know, a

439
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: few houses down from where the dad had been squatting.

440
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:26,200
Speaker 1: And so we went outside and the police officers said

441
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:31,520
Speaker 1: that that their house there seven people were murdered and

442
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: it was in connection with that house. And the first

443
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 1: thing I said was I know who exactly those seven

444
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: people are? And I said Nona and her brother Ali,

445
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,400
Speaker 1: and her mom and her dad and her aunt and

446
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: her uncle and her cousin. And that's kind of how

447
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: it all unfolded for me. Two, Mashie mus Dahi, tell

448
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:59,520
Speaker 1: me when you learned about your best friends death On

449
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: the night before Zore and her husband they had a ranch,

450
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: and so we for Christmas Eve, we had like seventy

451
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: five people. We're you know, friends. We were gathering and

452
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: celebrating the Christmas and at twenty o'clock, Nona came to

453
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,600
Speaker 1: me and she said, and Mashi, my daddy just text

454
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 1: me and he said he has a surprise for me

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00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 1: in the morning. And I said, oh, maybe he's going

456
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 1: to give you a call. Because she just graduated from

457
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 1: my high school, and so she was kind of excited

458
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: to see what the surprise was. And then when I heard, oh,

459
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 1: I didn't know that, I just I just couldn't believe it.

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00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: You know, it was we were older. We just couldn't

461
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,240
Speaker 1: believe that happened. The next day when we find out,

462
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: it was just horrible. I steel. I mean, when Christmas

463
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: time comes, it's for me to celebrate because I just

464
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: think about this family. There were wonderful people. I mean,

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00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 1: Zori and her husband. If you people live in Dallas,

466
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: if you ask them, how do you think about them?

467
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: They were just always helping people. There were wonderful, wonderful people.

468
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: And her sister was such a peacemaker. That's why, you know,

469
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,640
Speaker 1: back to that stuff, I said, you know, the furniture

470
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 1: and everything. She didn't really want to make as he

471
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 1: is angry, so she just her with help of her sister,

472
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 1: she decided to just buy the basic things for her apartment.

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00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: She was a very quiet, very super kind lady. She

474
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 1: never you know, she was a peacemaker. She just didn't

475
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 1: want to anything happened to her kids, her family. She

476
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:55,240
Speaker 1: was really a wonderful mom and always protecting her kids

477
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: and everything. So when he says her coming out of

478
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:05,800
Speaker 1: this arranged marriage, even though he's not working, he's hiring

479
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: prostitutes by selling their rugs and their furniture, he can't

480
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: stand that she is making a new life for herself

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00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: all on her own. Is that what you think happened?

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00:33:20,160 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: Mash Well, she really she never really went for divorce.

483
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: She never went to an attorney, you know, because she

484
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: just thought if she just moved out, you know, her

485
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: kid's going to be more safer and everything. And so

486
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: he really did never got divorced or anything. So it

487
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: wasn't like her excess one. It was, you know, they

488
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: were still married and everything too. Joseph Scott Morgan joining us,

489
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Joe Scott, you know we hear that night one call.

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00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: We think it's a victim inside the home, it's not,

491
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: it's the shooter. Yeah, that makes it all the more striking,

492
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 1: particularly compared to when you now retrospectively, when you look

493
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: back and see what he had perpetrated and what he

494
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: had borne witness to. You know, there's no there's very

495
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: very hard to kind of understand where his mind was.

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00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,120
Speaker 1: But you know, when the police showed up at the scene.

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00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: I've been on many mass shootings over the course of

498
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,719
Speaker 1: my career in New Orleans and Atlanta, and I can

499
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: tell you that the horror that he saw the police

500
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:36,439
Speaker 1: it's amplified for them because you know, you talk about

501
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: the concentration of bodies that they have. First off, they

502
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: don't know who anybody is when you walk in to

503
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: an environment like this, and this is an absolute trust me,

504
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 1: this is an absolute bloodbat. Nobody has. You know, you

505
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: think about a lady might be carrying a pocketbook, a purse,

506
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,839
Speaker 1: a man might be carrying a wallet. Everybody's guards down

507
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: at this point. You don't you have no idea how

508
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: to identify these people. And then you go to this

509
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,319
Speaker 1: point of how do we process the scene one by one?

510
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: And all the while this is all unfolding before you,

511
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: because you don't know where this guy is to begin with.

512
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 1: At this point, when you're out on scene, you're the

513
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:17,680
Speaker 1: point of contact relative to this. So you're having to

514
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,360
Speaker 1: work this case as if it's going to be prosecutable,

515
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: and that this person is in the still out there

516
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 1: somewhere and he might be perpetrating. Again, you've got someone

517
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,200
Speaker 1: that is inclined to take the lives of all of

518
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: these people in a very very small space. And they say,

519
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 1: we're talking about an apartment. Okay, well, it's not like

520
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 1: a mansion or something, and so it just it doubles

521
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: down on this idea of terror and particularly a Christmas time.

522
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: And I can understand why the captain specifically mentioned this,

523
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: particularly in grape Vine, that this is going to haunt

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00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: them for years and years to come, and every individual

525
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: is out on that scene will remember this forever. Back

526
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: out to Captain Todd Daring, what do you remember what

527
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 1: went through your mind when you went into that scene.

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00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: One of the things that and one of the points

529
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: that we've always had over the years is that it

530
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 1: particularly wasn't a gruesome scene. It was just a you know,

531
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 1: a mass casualty scene, which was impactful on everybody there.

532
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: Most of us hadn't ever seen that many people, and

533
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: you know, of course in that small, small amount of space,

534
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 1: we did have a few officers over time that you know,

535
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,800
Speaker 1: sought help because it was, you know, it was fairly

536
00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: significant point in their careers, especially the younger ones that

537
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: had just started had been with the police department for

538
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: just a couple of years, and so this was all

539
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: brand new to them. You know at that time. I've

540
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: been you know, in law enforcement twenty years and you know,

541
00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: learned how to deal with these kind of things. But

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00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: some of our newer people actually had difficulties with that,

543
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: and so you know, got them help over the years

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00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: to get through those kind of things, because it does

545
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,720
Speaker 1: make an impact on the police officers who are working

546
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 1: the scenes too, especially on a holiday like that we

547
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 1: were most of us were home with our families and

548
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: we had to leave our families to go to something

549
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: like this. So Alison, when you look back on that

550
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: Christmas Day and your friendship with Nona, what do you think,

551
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: what do you feel? It's hard to put into words.

552
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: I definitely had affected my Christmases ever since because I

553
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: think about her a little bit more at every Christmas

554
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: since then. My parents, you know, they still lived three

555
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: houses down from her house for a long time. They

556
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: just moved out last year from that neighborhood, and so

557
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: every Christmas morning I'd have to drive by her dad's

558
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: old house. And for a long time they no one,

559
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 1: the banks, never sold. It took a while for them

560
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: to even come and fix it up, and so it

561
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: just sat there as kind of a sore thumb in

562
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: the neighborhood and as a reminder every day of what happened.

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00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: So it definitely brings a lot of sadness. I know,

564
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: if she was so seriously be doing big things. Two mashi,

565
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: how has the death of your friends affected you? Affected

566
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: all the friends, all the people they knew them. It's

567
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: just not me, Nancy, I mean it's I just cannot

568
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: tell you how wonderful they were. You know her and

569
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: known as cousin Sarah. She was going to medical school.

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00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 1: She was a young kid with a lot of dreams

571
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: and everything. I mean, that was unfair to her, that

572
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: was unfair to her brother, that was unfair to all

573
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 1: the family. He could have just killed himself. The levels

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00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: here of promising the daughter a surprise the next morning

575
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 1: she thinks it's a car. It's two guns firing, showing

576
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 1: up in a Santa suit. After everything he had put

577
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: the family through, all of this culminating on Christmas Day.

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00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: If you or any one are suffering at this time

579
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: of the year, please dial toll free eight hundred two

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00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: seventy three eight two five five, repeat toll free eight

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00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: hundred two seventy three eight two five five. Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Story signing off, Goodbye friend,