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Speaker 1: Wellichie, well Achie, Wellichie.

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Speaker 2: Your Minnesota Temberwolves wrapped up a thirteen and three month

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Speaker 2: of November. Wow, November to truly remember. Meanwhile, Denver is

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Speaker 2: just five and five over their last ten, but they'll

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Speaker 2: be welcoming the return of Jamal Murray soon and we'll

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Speaker 2: get into a ton of stuff around the league, including

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Speaker 2: the state of the Toronto Raptors. Mandem with NBA reporter

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Speaker 2: and podcaster Espandi ar Bearahini on today's episode. I'm Miles

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Speaker 2: Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and this is Miles and

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Speaker 2: Jack got mad mess.

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Speaker 3: Sorry at welcome sport reporter of the Objective podcast alongside

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Speaker 3: alongside blauring Gun.

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Speaker 1: Good to have you man. Good.

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Speaker 4: I appreciate that you're throwing in the Toronto accent every

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Speaker 1: You had to go alongside.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I had to not alongside alongside obviously, but.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, excited to have you back.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: We have such a fun time, so it's really good

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Speaker 1: to have you back. And yeah, I appreciate you guys

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Speaker 1: have can drill down on some tings as it were. Uh, Jack,

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I'm good.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I'm like doing the I'm doing the secretly eating

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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you ripping your case d into mini

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Speaker 6: Over, like putting them under my tongue like.

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Speaker 2: For those that don't know, we record many podcasts throughout

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Speaker 2: the day Jack and I Sometimes the meals, the opportunities,

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Speaker 7: Smash in front of you guys. Just yeah, we well,

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Speaker 7: you guys, had a conversation. I apologize, I'm badly, I'm fueled.

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Speaker 6: Felt like too much.

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Speaker 7: How are we feeling about the I mean I think

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Speaker 7: I think we can say n season tournament is cute.

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Speaker 6: Failure bomb city, nobody cares nice trial.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the players are laying down on the court in

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Speaker 2: the middle of waight.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, wait.

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Speaker 6: What Royal bombs one sock off? They're just sitting on

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Speaker 6: the court. Uh no, this this turned out to be

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel foolish in the beginning to being like

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Speaker 2: I don't get it, Like, what what are the steaks?

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Speaker 1: Clearly there are the stakes.

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Speaker 2: Are are the prize for competitors and the out of

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Speaker 8: This is good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I knew Adam was a genius the whole time I

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Speaker 7: I was saying that the fact that it happened against

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Speaker 4: You know, it's crazy. I saw this tweet by what's

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Speaker 4: right now on Twitter, but he was saying, like, oh,

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Speaker 1: And it's like, I don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 6: I think that's wrong.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's like very incorrect. I bet you the like Halliburton, whatever,

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Speaker 4: last night's game was like, it's gonna come back as

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Speaker 4: It's yeah, like the tournament has done the job that

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like that's how they like.

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Speaker 7: I feel like a lot of young people just follow

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Speaker 7: First, I'm gonna go warm my hands around this trash

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Speaker 6: Then we're gonna go down to the game and.

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Speaker 2: Back when scout tickets there's a duop group on every

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I'm again.

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Speaker 2: As of this recording, we do not know the fate

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Speaker 1: Who knows what's happening there, but we don't know. We

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Speaker 2: He's I mean, he's just coming into his own like

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Speaker 1: But yeah, really really good win over the Kings.

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Speaker 1: Yeah for real, did you see Chuck go after Zion?

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Speaker 2: This is who I am, right right right, But like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: to Jabaris producer Jabari's point, it's like, yeah, Charles Barkley

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Speaker 2: Know, I think that's why I'm like, for me, I'm like,

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Speaker 7: Saying is that I want him to be in whatever

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Speaker 1: Right, And if that's his game, then so be it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: It was his line in the first playing game reminded

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Speaker 7: Right, Yeah, yeah, exactly, even though he can block some

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 7: But yeah, to the point about that Jabbari's point about

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Speaker 4: They're saying, hey, on your makes, you have that on

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Speaker 2: You right, because, as we all know, without that cardio

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Speaker 3: Cook.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't even dribble. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: So there's been a lot of rumors that the Raptors

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Speaker 2: Some picks or something that we can put around Scotty

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Speaker 4: They had the opportunity to trade him, they didn't trade him.

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Speaker 4: And Scotty has emerged, like Scotty is becoming a really

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Speaker 4: Kawhi left for nothing, to Green left for nothing.

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Speaker 4: Trying man, there's there's so many he can like, I

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Speaker 4: I don't know. They also have interesting young players that

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Speaker 4: maybe they'd be willing to move off of because they're

443
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Speaker 4: trying to win now. So people bring up Jonathan Kaminga,

444
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Speaker 4: people bring up Brandon Pajimski right Like, there's like these

445
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Speaker 4: kinds of players that maybe the Raptors could be wanting.

446
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 4: Right this summer, Pascal was nearly traded to the Atlanta Hawks.

447
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,639
Speaker 4: Nearly traded to the Indiana Pacers. Those things didn't happen

448
00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,439
Speaker 4: because probably the Raptors wanted too much for what Pascal was.

449
00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,840
Speaker 4: And you know, we'll see if they revisit that. But

450
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Speaker 4: those are the types of teams. It's like either a

451
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Speaker 4: contender that is dealing with their own internal pressures and

452
00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,680
Speaker 4: has to pull a win now move, or a young

453
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Speaker 4: budding team that is thinking, okay, maybe we're one piece

454
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Speaker 4: away from being that contender, which is like, hey, we

455
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 4: just saw the Indiana Pacers. You know Trek the Celtics.

456
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,480
Speaker 4: Maybe they feel now like hey, let's get another guy

457
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Speaker 4: for Halliburton, and you know they go in that direction,

458
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,240
Speaker 4: but who knows, there's there's a lot of teams that

459
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Speaker 4: could use him.

460
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Speaker 8: Yeah.

461
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Speaker 2: Are you worried about like his shooting slump, like affecting

462
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Speaker 2: the perception of him right now or do you think

463
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Speaker 2: it's it'll, he'll, it'll, it'll figure yourself out maybe a

464
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Speaker 2: little bit.

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Speaker 4: I think. I mean, when you whenever you shoot nine

466
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Speaker 4: point six percent on threes of the last ten games

467
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Speaker 4: is not going to help you a lot. It doesn't

468
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Speaker 4: help the case. But to be fair, like.

469
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Speaker 1: I saw that Temper two that was crazy. Absolutely, that's

470
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Speaker 1: like was it the.

471
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Speaker 2: Worst three point percentage by a player with fifty plus

472
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Speaker 2: attempts in a fifteen gamespan since at least eighty three,

473
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Speaker 2: eighty four. That's that's not the kind of history you

474
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Speaker 2: want to be set in yet.

475
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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and look, you don't want to be like you said,

476
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,879
Speaker 4: you don't want to be in that category. But I

477
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 4: feel like he's never really been a shooter, and the

478
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Speaker 4: Raptors are sort of asking him to be that unfairly

479
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Speaker 4: this season just because they don't have a lot of

480
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Speaker 4: shooting right. They've they've put the ball in Scotty's hands

481
00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 4: more and they're trying to make him operate. But they're

482
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Speaker 4: all also asking Pascal to be off ball more, and

483
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Speaker 4: that's just requiring him to shoot the ball more often

484
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Speaker 4: from three. He's not that good of a shooter. He

485
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Speaker 4: had one season where he was a really good shooter,

486
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Speaker 4: but hasn't really been that since. Uh So, I just

487
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Speaker 4: think they're putting him in the wrong positions and any

488
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Speaker 4: team that tries to trade for him, you're not gonna

489
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Speaker 4: ask him to take a lot of threes. I don't

490
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Speaker 4: think the Warriors a gonna ask him to take a

491
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Speaker 4: lot of threes. I think like you have enough of

492
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Speaker 4: that with Stephan and all those guys. Right, Ultimately, like,

493
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Speaker 4: if you're getting a guy like Sam, you're getting him

494
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Speaker 4: to be this like utility knife on offense who can

495
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Speaker 4: create for himself a little bit, who's a great cutter,

496
00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 4: off ball mover, really good defender, has size, like just

497
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Speaker 4: a very versatile forward that you can throw into any

498
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Speaker 4: type of situation.

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Speaker 6: Mm hmm. Sounds nice. Sounds like a nice And I used.

500
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Speaker 4: To have a career in marketing, you know, yeah, yeah, so.

501
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hey, I'm looking at these numbers, though I'm not

502
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Speaker 2: sure it's that this guy's you like, this guy.

503
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Speaker 1: Gonna come in.

504
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Speaker 4: You're gonna walk away with a nice spascal siakam today.

505
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 6: You're gonna come home.

506
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 7: Your wife's gonna say, Wow, there goes a man who

507
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:06,000
Speaker 7: knows how to get a deal.

508
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Speaker 1: You wanted to have respect for you again, don't you

509
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Speaker 1: down right?

510
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Speaker 6: This might be your first step boards then all right,

511
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Speaker 6: should we take a break? Yeah, all right, yeah, yeh

512
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Speaker 6: might as well. All right, we'll take a break. We'll

513
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Speaker 6: be right back and we're back.

514
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Speaker 8: We're back, and.

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Speaker 6: All right, let's talk Golden State real quick.

516
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Speaker 7: What's going on with these guys? You just talk about

517
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 7: these guys now three and seven of the last ten,

518
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 7: a whole one game worse than the seventy six ers

519
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 7: who are four and sicks over the last time. But

520
00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,720
Speaker 7: next their next five Blazers at Thunder, at Suns at Clippers.

521
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Speaker 6: Now, do we think they're just a move away?

522
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 7: Like they had some weak spots and all they really

523
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 7: did was get rid of Jordan Poole, Like, is that

524
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Speaker 7: basically what we're looking at?

525
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Speaker 4: They look old, man, is my thing. They kind of

526
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,240
Speaker 4: look old. And I didn't realize this when I came

527
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Speaker 4: into the season because I was like, I was kind

528
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Speaker 4: of high on the Warriors. I'm like, oh, man, Steph Curry,

529
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Speaker 4: you know, they still got their nucleus. Maybe Jordan Poole

530
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Speaker 4: a little addition by subtraction Chris Paul will be enough.

531
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Speaker 4: But I like, you look at their core and they're

532
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Speaker 4: very old. Chris Paul's obviously like thirty nine years old.

533
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Speaker 4: Steph Curry is thirty five now, Draymond Green is getting

534
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Speaker 4: up there in age. Klay Thompson is I think thirty

535
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Speaker 4: two or thirty three. Like they're they are older, and

536
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Speaker 4: they're relying on these guys to be the same way,

537
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Speaker 4: and I think I think the NBA offense has sort

538
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Speaker 4: of caught up to the Warriors in the sense that

539
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Speaker 4: you see other teams replicating that same style, the Nuggets,

540
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Speaker 4: the Kings, the even to us lesser that the Hawks

541
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,639
Speaker 4: and Pacers are really trying to like just we're gonna

542
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Speaker 4: play a style very similar to the Warriors, the run

543
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Speaker 4: and gun, shoot a bunch of threes type of offense,

544
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Speaker 4: and I think the Warriors have gotten worse and worse

545
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Speaker 4: at it. That's not to say Steph Curry isn't balling out.

546
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: Steph Curry is bawling his ass off, but he's cooking.

547
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Speaker 4: But the rest of the team just isn't good enough

548
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Speaker 4: to keep up and just isn't talented enough to sustain

549
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 4: this level. So yeah, I feel like they are a

550
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Speaker 4: piece of way. Like if they were to we were

551
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Speaker 4: just talking about Sakham, if they were to go and

552
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Speaker 4: make a splash like that, whatever that trade is, I

553
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,480
Speaker 4: think they could put themselves back in the conversation and contenders.

554
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Speaker 4: But for now, I do not see that, Like I

555
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Speaker 4: really don't.

556
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Speaker 10: Think thee Yeah, and just like a lot of the

557
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Speaker 10: players that we thought were gonna keep this like dynastic

558
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 10: franchise going, you're just kind of like, you know, coool,

559
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Speaker 10: We're like.

560
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Speaker 2: They were like first thing like oh, and then you're

561
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Speaker 2: like and then like Andrew Wiggins, mman, like you know,

562
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 2: it's not nothing's quite like breaking through in the way

563
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: that you need for a team like that to have

564
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: that balance, rather than being like, I don't know, man,

565
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,399
Speaker 2: can we put more mileage on these bodies and expect

566
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Speaker 2: the same output?

567
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: Like that's just it's just tough.

568
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Speaker 7: In retrospect, it's kind of wild. The season they had

569
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Speaker 7: where they won it. It's like they were on a

570
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Speaker 7: regression to like, you know, age the way a team

571
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Speaker 7: is expected to and then just randomly that season everything

572
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 7: comes together and they're playing great, and then it's just

573
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Speaker 7: like back to back to the same kind of path

574
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Speaker 7: that they were on before that season. It's really a

575
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Speaker 7: strange outlier kind of a testament to steph and just

576
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Speaker 7: what they did that season is pretty wild.

577
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Speaker 4: Right, further and further we get away from that championship season,

578
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 4: the more it looks like the last dance, Yeah, yeah,

579
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: that was their last dance, which is just it's crazy

580
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Speaker 4: given how good Step still is, Like Step is still

581
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Speaker 4: really good he's having, he's nearly having as good of

582
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Speaker 4: a season as he did and is I think second

583
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,680
Speaker 4: MVP season or maybe the season after that. Like he's

584
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,879
Speaker 4: his production is incredible, but just in terms of the

585
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 4: rest of this team, like you guys said, you're not

586
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 4: getting enough from Kuminga, you're not getting enough from Wiggins.

587
00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 4: Clay feels like and looks like a shell of himself.

588
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 4: So you're just not getting that same production. It's tough, man,

589
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 4: It's tough because they have been, you know, for the

590
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 4: last ten years, they've been the most successful franchise, like

591
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,800
Speaker 4: the best, you know, dynastic, like you said, yeah, and

592
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 4: it feels like we're seeing the end of that now.

593
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 2: And even the way Clay talks, like in some of

594
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: his post games, he seems like visibly frustrated, but he's

595
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:39,679
Speaker 2: also maybe like when people are bringing up the you know,

596
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,640
Speaker 2: the possibility that they are mortal human beings and things

597
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 2: might be changing a bit, he seems like really defiant

598
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 2: about it.

599
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 1: And I get that.

600
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: Obviously you're not gonna be out there, He's not going

601
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: to do Like he's like, what do you want me

602
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,239
Speaker 2: to say? Yeah, we I'm done. I'm hanging it up.

603
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 2: But I'm still you know, there's a check, so I'll

604
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 2: come in every day. It's not like that, but there is,

605
00:27:57,040 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 2: like I can tell even for them, there's like this frustration,

606
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 2: little bit of like existential awareness around them and being

607
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,959
Speaker 2: like like what is realistic? And to your point, like,

608
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: was that was that? Actually it two years ago?

609
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 4: Like was that the one? Yeah? Your morality that's crazy?

610
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 7: Yeah, I do just want to talk about the end

611
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 7: season tournament one more time. Just then the clip that

612
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:23,159
Speaker 7: I think was Rob Prez shared of like the celebration

613
00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 7: of of the Pacers bench, and then he shared it

614
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 7: with the information that ten players on the books for

615
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 7: the Pacers who make less than three million dollars in

616
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 7: salary this season three two way contracts, so five hundred

617
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 7: thousand per player to the winner of the tournament. Like

618
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 7: is a huge deal like that that? I don't know, man,

619
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Speaker 7: That like really puts it in perspective and makes it.

620
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 1: Yea, how great the Lakers are? You see what I'm saying.

621
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: We're still showing up weekend.

622
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Speaker 6: Week still showing up. We get this thing. We could

623
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Speaker 6: get nobody.

624
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: No, but yeah, it's kind of like on some Hunger

625
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: Games kind of thing too.

626
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're hunger.

627
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're out here and yeah it's uh yeah, I'm

628
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: who is it so the Knicks?

629
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: Oh it could be the way, who are the Knicks playing?

630
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 4: Again?

631
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 1: Bucks?

632
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 6: The Bucks?

633
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 4: Right right?

634
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: Right?

635
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah?

636
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean like the Suns.

637
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, everything is everything has a bit of appeal. I mean,

638
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 2: no matter how that Son's game go. I'm I think

639
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: because it's the first one too, I'm just interested, Like

640
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 2: it's just fun to see. And honestly, at the beginning,

641
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 2: I was a little annoyed by the courts and like

642
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 2: the graphics on the courts, but I like that it

643
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 2: does visually anchor that the fact that it gives it

644
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 2: a different feel. So then when I see highlights, I'm like, oh,

645
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: it's it's okay, it's from the insult.

646
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, So you know, well done, well done.

647
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 4: Well what would you guys change going into next year?

648
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: Because I feel like I've heard that conversation a lot

649
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 4: of like what would a tweak be? What would this

650
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 4: adjustment be? Obviously it's been successful, you know, like yeah,

651
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: even the numbers and like the viewership and all that,

652
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: they had crazy numbers of success, But like, what would

653
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 4: you change if it's been so successful? Some people have

654
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 4: said we should extend the tournament, not have it end

655
00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 4: in December, have it end in like February, so that

656
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 4: it could like lead into all our weekend and then

657
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 4: you you have a thing and then it's playoff time. Right.

658
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 4: Some people say, obviously take away the courts, Like there's

659
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Speaker 4: different suggestions, but how would you guys tweak.

660
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,120
Speaker 6: It playing with no courts? That feels like that would chaut.

661
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: Whoa zero gravity like Rainbow Road in Mario.

662
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, it feels like I don't know, maybe this is

663
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 7: just me as a non footy fan, but like all

664
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 7: the like playing in your group and then like having

665
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 7: like the point differential matter as much as it did,

666
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,239
Speaker 7: was not my favorite thing. And it felt like more

667
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 7: more single elimination, less of the you know, playing the

668
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 7: same team's repeatly, Like if we could figure out a

669
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:04,680
Speaker 7: way to do that, I think that would be more fun.

670
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 7: But like maybe a bigger single elimination portion of the

671
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 7: tournament and right, uh, you know, like a couple of

672
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 7: games to get the seating right, but then the you know,

673
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 7: the single elimination is really what I'm here for, so

674
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 7: I want more of that if possible.

675
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 2: I would like something like I said, like, my first

676
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: my perception of it felt like there the stakes weren't there.

677
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 2: Clearly they are in the form of like the prize,

678
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 2: but I would like to see if there is a

679
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,880
Speaker 2: way to have it have some bearing on the seat

680
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 2: like that it's like you're fighting actually to this could

681
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 2: actually affect your ability in the playoffs or something like that,

682
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 2: Like it's not just a prize, like there's a there's

683
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: something that you could kind of hack the matrix through

684
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: the tournament just to see how that would go. I'm

685
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: sure if there was something like that, then maybe they've

686
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 2: changed the rules because people be playing differently. But if

687
00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 2: there was something like, you know, you can in the

688
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 2: first round, you can make your opposition bench one player

689
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 2: in the first game and you could choose which one.

690
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: You know, something something just you know, not too wild.

691
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,960
Speaker 1: But I don't know if.

692
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 7: There's something to play that we had that one pitch

693
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 7: your opponent has to play one quarter in tim tims.

694
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd like to see that.

695
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: I would like just for fun, you know, or even

696
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: in the tournament, be like, yo, we do this thing,

697
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 2: like there's the mystery ball comes down in the third

698
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 2: quarter and depending on what it looks like if it

699
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 2: might be TIMS for this TIMS for whoever's playing.

700
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 6: The five, you know, a huge advantage for the nixt.

701
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but you have to have more people that

702
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: are from New York.

703
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 2: They'll playing you know what I mean, you have from

704
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 2: these guys from Europe over there, they will hurt themselves.

705
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 4: I won't know what the point differential would be TIMS

706
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 4: to non Tims, you know, because like you ever like

707
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 4: lift something very heavy and then right afterwards lift something

708
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 4: really light and it's like, oh yeah.

709
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 2: Maybe something happens the quarter after the TIMS, like people

710
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: are just taking off from the like three point line,

711
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: dunking and stuff.

712
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: Like that got the fizzy lift.

713
00:32:56,640 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 2: Never felt this before exactly, this is the secret time

714
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: just play half the game in TIMS.

715
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 7: I do feel like we need to shout out Chet

716
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 7: who it made the like top five he was fifth

717
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 7: and lowest defensive rating for players so far goes Rudy

718
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 7: Kat which I was surprised to see. Mitchell Robinson, Anthony Davis,

719
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 7: who's you know, despite what some people like, he gets

720
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 7: a lot of a lot of negative attention, people like

721
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 7: he's not the it's not that dude, but he's still

722
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 7: playing incredibly defensively, and then Chet right right after and yeah,

723
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 7: just and then he won Rookie of the Year or

724
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 7: Rookie of the Month for October November, and just generally

725
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 7: is is looking like a Rookie of the Year front

726
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 7: runner at this point, which you know, we were.

727
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:57,720
Speaker 6: Excited about him.

728
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 7: We were very excited about Wemby, and a lot of

729
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 7: people were like, talk about Chet every time you were

730
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: bring up Webby's name, what about chet Man? Yeah, what

731
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:10,200
Speaker 7: about bull Bull? Okay, whoa, whoa whoa, We'll get that,

732
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 7: We'll get the bull Bull.

733
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, he was.

734
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: The Western Conference Turkey.

735
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 2: And then I got a shout out my former bruin

736
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 2: the real Triple j Hima Hakas Junior on the game.

737
00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, doing what I was saying off Mike, I

738
00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: was like, honestly, the heat is like the perfect place

739
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,439
Speaker 1: for him to go. It really is like just.

740
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 2: With his his his mentality, his work ethic, all that,

741
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 2: Like he's he's one of those guys who's like, what's

742
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 2: the assignment understood? And here I go, So yeah, I'm

743
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 2: also I'm pleased to see that. But yeah, Chet, you know,

744
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: maybe Jack again, We'll we will keep bringing up the

745
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: bet that you made when we went to Vegas during

746
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 2: Summer League.

747
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you got that ticket burning in your pocket.

748
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,720
Speaker 6: Okay, see to win the title, so oh hell.

749
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, I like, can you can you last cash out? Though?

750
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 4: Can you cash out at some point? Can you be

751
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 4: like if they make the.

752
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: Can I just like a little bit? Yeah?

753
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah.

754
00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 2: It was.

755
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 7: It was after a Chet's first Summer League game, and

756
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 7: I was like, maybe.

757
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 6: Yeah, maybe this guy is pretty good.

758
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 4: So I don't know, he's cool, man. I I got

759
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: the chance to interview him in a couple of his

760
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 4: teammates for preseason and kind of do a profile on

761
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: his defense, and like, even from then, you're like, yeah,

762
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,560
Speaker 4: this guy he can be a defensive player of the

763
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 4: year type.

764
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 8: Yeah.

765
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 4: It was just it was obvious from the onset that

766
00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 4: he was just going to be so good on the

767
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 4: defensive end, even in college. Man, Like, even in college,

768
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 4: it was just obvious to see that he had such

769
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 4: a profound impact on the defense. Like the rim protection,

770
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:46,759
Speaker 4: the shop blocking, this is awareness, his ability to like

771
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 4: switch out onto guards. It's it's like, really really good stuff.

772
00:35:50,520 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 4: We talked about Anthony this, which I agree is like

773
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 4: overly hated and you know whatever underappreciated. It's he has

774
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 4: a lot of the similar quality to him where it's

775
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 4: like he doesn't have a defensive flaw other than you know,

776
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 4: right now people are saying gets pushed around a little bit. Sure, yeah,

777
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 4: that's something that will eventually, you know, he'll he'll get

778
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,360
Speaker 4: better at that. But like skill wise, he doesn't really

779
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,839
Speaker 4: have a defensive flaw, which is crazy to say about.

780
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 7: Yeah, and he's got good defenders around him, Shay is

781
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 7: you know, I think seventh on this list of like

782
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 7: best defenders. So you know, even if people are hitting

783
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 7: him and able to like pound pound him, like move

784
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:34,440
Speaker 7: him back, you've got other great defenders diving in. So

785
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:39,439
Speaker 7: it's a very tricky team to to play. All right,

786
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 7: should we do it?

787
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 6: Should take a.

788
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 7: Break and come back with the fastest segment in podcasting.

789
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just called my lawyer. I had to

790
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: make sure I was covered and I am. So let's go,

791
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 1: let's go.

792
00:36:52,200 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 8: We'll be right back, and.

793
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: We are back. Mister Barry Haney.

794
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 2: You know, we we love you so much, man, We

795
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 2: love you so much, you know, and you're a good guy.

796
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Last time you came out, you were you were you

797
00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 2: were active in this segment. That's why we really respect you,

798
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: and it's time to turn it up even hotter.

799
00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 1: On you were in the hot seat.

800
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,360
Speaker 2: This is the fourth quarter rapid fire round question to

801
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:27,879
Speaker 2: close out the show. Okay, only heat, only quick responses,

802
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: no grand standing.

803
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: No, you know, extending the question because we've got to

804
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: keep this thing quick.

805
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 7: Okay, because and I really need to ask you, remind

806
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 7: you not to grand stand, because you since you came

807
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 7: on this show, man.

808
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 4: I'm a grand stander.

809
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 7: I'm another brand, and I don't really even know what

810
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 7: that means. But you've been grand standing, and I need

811
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 7: you to stand a little less grand.

812
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: Maybe some grand sitting, you know what grand squatting.

813
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,760
Speaker 2: You know, it's really really lower yourself, you know, exactly

814
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:01,880
Speaker 2: exactly on the release.

815
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Ah, So here we go.

816
00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:09,480
Speaker 2: Ready, here we go, Yeah, Jack, Here we go, Yeah yeah, Yes.

817
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Start the clock.

818
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: This is fast, man, This is fast. Gonna be fast, man,

819
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: It's the fastest thing you ever experienced.

820
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:17,799
Speaker 3: Bro.

821
00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to warn you. Man, Jack, you want

822
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:20,040
Speaker 1: to go first?

823
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 6: Or yeah, I go first?

824
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: Go?

825
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, okay, all right, here we go.

826
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 7: Biggest surprise team or players so far, we got many

827
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 7: fifteen and four, we got Orlando fourteen six, we got okay,

828
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 7: see we get uh Calves just eleven or nine, Golden

829
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 7: State nine and eleven.

830
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 6: Which way are you taking it?

831
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the Orlando Magic.

832
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 6: Yeah. I don't think anybody had that one coming.

833
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I think it was one of those things

834
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 2: to you would see last year, like oh I see

835
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 2: so I could see that happening and then they're like, no, no, no,

836
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 2: this is this is this is what is happening now.

837
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:51,359
Speaker 4: Baby, very good, they're very good.

838
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:53,880
Speaker 6: Yeah. Okay, all right, are you did you go to

839
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 6: Gonzaga or something? You like?

840
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 4: Guys, it is weird. You're you're actually making me realize

841
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 4: that right now. Maybe I don't know.

842
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,799
Speaker 7: Okay, oh wow, okay, you like Rum has given off

843
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 7: Adam Morrison vibes.

844
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, yeah, definitely giving big Adam Morrison.

845
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 4: When when Great was missing a bunch of shots, they

846
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,479
Speaker 4: did call him Adam Morrison. It was really tough.

847
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 6: Man, come on, man, leave him alone.

848
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: Look he got that neck. Okay, it's a condition, man,

849
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,479
Speaker 1: leave him alone. Leave him alone. That turtle Nick didn't

850
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: do much form. Okay, next up of the rough starts

851
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: that we've seen this season.

852
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,839
Speaker 2: Which teams do you think are most likely to work

853
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: themselves back into playoff contention? O, Memphis Grizzlies, easy money,

854
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: give me John Morant coming back right before Christmas.

855
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 4: He's gonna start hooping. Uh, they're gonna look much better. Yes, Grizzlies,

856
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 4: you're taking that over the Spurs. You don't think the

857
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 4: Spurs Spurs three sixteen, three and sixteen Spurs three sixteen?

858
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 6: Is that a Bible verse.

859
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Crossed myself?

860
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 2: I said it real, don't worry for the league. Loved

861
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 2: the world so much that they gave their only Wemby.

862
00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, to take themselves to the

863
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 2: Promised land?

864
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,279
Speaker 6: Tas what is the Uh, who's been who's been the

865
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 6: best rookies so far? Chet?

866
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 4: One hundred percent?

867
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 1: Chet.

868
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: I mean, look, I love I love Wenby. I think

869
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 4: he'll be good and maybe he'll be better like end

870
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 4: of day career wise, but yeah, it's Chet right now.

871
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 6: Yeah.

872
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 7: Do you think just because of how good the team's

873
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 7: been or you just generally he's just a better player

874
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 7: at the stage.

875
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 4: I think he's just well, first of all, it's it's

876
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 4: actually there was Gilbert Arenas said this exact same thing,

877
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 4: but they're just different ages. So where he's at versus

878
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 4: where Wenby's at at nineteen versus twenty one year old,

879
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,439
Speaker 4: chat like, it's a different one conversation to be had.

880
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: And yeah, Chet is in like the perfect context for him.

881
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 4: He was the exact type of big man that the

882
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 4: Thunder needed. He got plopped into there. He's having like

883
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 4: a fifty forty ninety type season. He's a fishing as hell.

884
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 4: He is right now the best rookie. But I could

885
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 4: see Wenby very easily like topping that in the next

886
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 4: couple of years. Who knows what Wenby will look like

887
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 4: at twenty one compared.

888
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 6: To check, right, Yeah, that's mostly the same.

889
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, that's why they're very similar players also,

890
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 4: like just in terms of what they can and can't do.

891
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: But Chat's just in a way better.

892
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,359
Speaker 2: But Wemby is reading at a twenty three year old

893
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: level from what I've heard, because all the comments about

894
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 2: Wemby is.

895
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: Like, Yo, this dude is reading so many books and

896
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: it's like not even for the camera, just.

897
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 6: Like never met a French person before.

898
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, like it's not like the lebron one page thing,

899
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:27,560
Speaker 4: you know, he's actually.

900
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, who said that.

901
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 2: No, someone actually said he's like it's not like he's

902
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 2: on page like stuck on page one either. They're like like,

903
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: they're like, he is reading and it's just so fun.

904
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 2: Just me the difference in how Americans view reading, yo, Like,

905
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 2: why yeah, who's he trying to show off for his

906
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,160
Speaker 2: book reading? But look it's it's lonely on the road.

907
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:52,879
Speaker 2: You got a lot of downtime. Okay, best you've been.

908
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: You've been doing good so far, but you really should

909
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:56,719
Speaker 2: have kept it moving. That's why I have to keep

910
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,720
Speaker 2: this thing going. And this is a Toronto Toronto focus question. Okay,

911
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: all the Raptors, who's been like the most underappreciated, like

912
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 2: legend you think of like the all time greats who

913
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: have played for the Raptors, And who's like a guy

914
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: who's not getting like his flowers like he should be.

915
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: Can you just shout him out so people should know still.

916
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 4: And always will be Kyle Lowry just it always is

917
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: he In my opinion, he's the greatest Raptor ever. You

918
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: guys probably think Vince Carter, Kawhi Leonard, Yes, but like

919
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,360
Speaker 4: it's Kyle fred.

920
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 8: Hey.

921
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 2: I feel like, hey, I'm just saying that I got

922
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm just manifesting.

923
00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 4: That's why I say all the time, buddies, So maybe

924
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 4: you can get Kyle onto.

925
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 7: But yeah, we just the first thing we asked him

926
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 7: is like, hey, do you know Kyle Lowry?

927
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,880
Speaker 1: I heard like the actual raptors go.

928
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:52,760
Speaker 4: But it's it's it, yeah, like, without a without a question,

929
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: he's like one of the most underappreciated raptors still and

930
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,440
Speaker 4: like he gets a lot of love, but for some

931
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 4: reason still has that undappreciated tack to him. So yeah, Fower,

932
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 4: all right.

933
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:05,760
Speaker 7: I don't know if you're a fan of the Twitter

934
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 7: stylings of one Irvin Magic Johnson, but a sample tweet

935
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 7: from the month of November. Wow, my Washington Commanders turned

936
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 7: the ball over six times today and gave the Giants

937
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 7: twenty four points off turnovers. We lost thirty one nineteen

938
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,040
Speaker 7: or from a week later, the Dallas Cowboys beat my

939
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 7: Commander's forty five to ten. Dallas was a better football

940
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 7: team tonight, playing and simple. I'd love to hear a

941
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 7: tweet if you were ghostwriting for Magic okay, and you

942
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 7: just want to tweet about a movie, Let's say.

943
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 6: What are you writing any movie.

944
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, Wow, Oppenheimer was such a great film.

945
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 4: That guy Killian Murphy really showed off his acting. Chops.

946
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 4: I can't believe they dropped.

947
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 8: You know what.

948
00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 6: I eat that momb oh.

949
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 4: I didn't want to go there, but that's very Johnson's type.

950
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 1: But he had to do it to him.

951
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,960
Speaker 6: Wait what, sir?

952
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: He was struggling with that in the field.

953
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: S you could take two players from all of history

954
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 2: to create your mad Boosti's Edition NBA Jam Team.

955
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,240
Speaker 1: Who are the two players you're putting together for that squad?

956
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 4: Give me Magic Johnson? Very easily? Wow, yeah, very easily.

957
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,320
Speaker 2: I have been selected on Barrett's Special Edition NBA Jam Squad.

958
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: Cannot wait to see who my two on two teammate is.

959
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 7: Uh?

960
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 4: And I need a play finisher. Give me Shack?

961
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:48,319
Speaker 6: Why not?

962
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,560
Speaker 4: Give me Shack? Give me Magic and Shack.

963
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: Why not?

964
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: That'd be fun. Let's do it.

965
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: Yeah?

966
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:58,120
Speaker 7: Yeah, I like that s has picked Shack center from

967
00:44:58,160 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 7: the NBA.

968
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 6: Was very big, very big, very strong.

969
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:06,399
Speaker 1: The league didn't see anything like him when he came in.

970
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,280
Speaker 1: I remember the day.

971
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:12,720
Speaker 7: And finally, you've been on before, so you've told us

972
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:19,160
Speaker 7: whether you you prefer Miles or me right, right and furious.

973
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,359
Speaker 6: I actually don't remember he picked.

974
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 7: But uh, now we we want to hear you weigh

975
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 7: in on the question that's on everyone's mind. Is this

976
00:45:28,719 --> 00:45:32,000
Speaker 7: man saying bacon or is he saying beer can?

977
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 4: Okay?

978
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: You ready, yep, big can, big can?

979
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 4: Okay, I'm from Toronto. Yeah, there there's some patois up there,

980
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 4: and I think that that was petoa. Uh yeah, it's

981
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: bacon very easily.

982
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 1: It's not wow wow correct correct.

983
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 6: Correct, that's correct, wow.

984
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,480
Speaker 2: Even though last week Sarah Todd said his beer can

985
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:03,360
Speaker 2: also correct.

986
00:46:03,640 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, back we want big kind Yeah.

987
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 4: There you go and big kind of eggs, you.

988
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, exactly.

989
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 6: Anyway, what.

990
00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 7: Wrong?

991
00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: And thank you for clarifying it. We needed a real

992
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 2: Toronto road man to you know. Actually, just clarify that

993
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,839
Speaker 2: real quick for us. Where do the people find you,

994
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,200
Speaker 2: follow you, support you? Uh, listen to you here, read

995
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:29,240
Speaker 2: all of that good stuff?

996
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 4: Man, Yeah, tat, well they don't. They don't like other podcasts,

997
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 4: but you can listen to the Objective Basketball Podcast if

998
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 4: you guys want.

999
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 2: Fine, I guess if that's the thing you're doing, like

1000
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: I guess, we'll support that.

1001
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: Yeah for sure.

1002
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, just bleep it. Follow me on Twitter at just

1003
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 4: a Sparahini. You can follow all the stuff I do

1004
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 4: at SDPN Sports. They got a YouTube. They got all

1005
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 4: that stuff too, so yeah, check me out. Appreciate you

1006
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 4: guys having me on man. This is always black.

1007
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 6: I appreciate pleasure having an honor man.

1008
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 2: Well, you can make sure you follow us on Twitter.

1009
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 2: Follow the hashtag Matt Boosti's b do lo s d

1010
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: i E s for show links, updates, et cetera. If

1011
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: you want to follow me, I am at miles.

1012
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Of grade gr a Y.

1013
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 6: And I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien b r I E

1014
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 6: n h e e n yeah.

1015
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,239
Speaker 1: Let them know, let them know that is going to

1016
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 1: do it for us this week.

1017
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:24,239
Speaker 6: We did it.

1018
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it.

1019
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 3: We did it. We did it.

1020
00:47:26,239 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 4: Uh.

1021
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: November is over. It's going to be a December to remember.

1022
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,359
Speaker 2: And we hope to see you next week. All right, y'all,

1023
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: Bye bye