WEBVTT - Is Reid Detmers The Perfect Trade Target for the D-backs?

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to get into some potential trade targets,

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<v Speaker 1>really one specific trade target that we're going to focus on.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we are going to talk about this weekend

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<v Speaker 1>series between the Diamondbacks and the Milwaukee Brewers. I am

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<v Speaker 1>Jesse Friedman alongside Jack Summers and Jack The narrative continues

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamondbacks holding their own against the lesser teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the league. Of course, they took two out of three

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<v Speaker 1>from the San Francisco Giants, and then they come right

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<v Speaker 1>back and they lose a series to the Milwaukee Brewers.

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<v Speaker 1>They are now fourteen and thirty three this season against

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<v Speaker 1>teams that are five hundred or better.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's no moral victories. I mean, you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>can say they hung with them. The games were close.

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<v Speaker 2>They very well could have won the series. Some might

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<v Speaker 2>even say they could have swept the series. But the

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<v Speaker 2>fact is that they lost two out of three and

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<v Speaker 2>it just looked and felt like the Brewers were much

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<v Speaker 2>better equipped to handle close games, and that clearly was

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<v Speaker 2>the case.

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<v Speaker 1>The finale was a close one, as all of these

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<v Speaker 1>games were. At Wardo Rodriguez was excellent. Newly minted All

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<v Speaker 1>Star at Vardo Rodriguez was very good once again. He

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<v Speaker 1>was through six scoreless innings and then Tory Lavello believe

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<v Speaker 1>he was at ninety three pitches. Tory decides to send

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<v Speaker 1>him back out there for the seventh and unfortunately that

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<v Speaker 1>did not work out. Andrew Vaughan let off that inning

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<v Speaker 1>with a single, and then e rod just dropped a

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<v Speaker 1>curveball middle middle and Jake Bowers hit a pretty impressive

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<v Speaker 1>left on left to run. Homer turned what was a

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<v Speaker 1>one to nothing Diamondbacks lead into a two to one deficit.

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<v Speaker 1>But ultimately, Jack, I mean, this loss falls on the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>You cannot blame this on Eduardo Rodriguez. It was still

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<v Speaker 1>six plus innings of two run ball from him. The

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks just weren't able to do enough and offensively, and man,

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<v Speaker 1>they had a whole lot of chances throughout this game.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean early in the game they weren't having

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<v Speaker 2>great at bats. They were I think one for eight

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<v Speaker 2>in runners and scoring position through the first three innings.

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<v Speaker 2>They ended up, you know, two for thirteen in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. As the game wore on, of course, there

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<v Speaker 2>were a ton of hard hit balls. The six hardest

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<v Speaker 2>balls that the Diamondbacks hit in the game all went

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<v Speaker 2>for outs. That included one hundred and seventeen mile an

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<v Speaker 2>hour line drive by ktel Marte and of course one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and seven mile an hour line out double play

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<v Speaker 2>off the bat of Peven Smith, who did a two

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<v Speaker 2>handed chuck of the bat. He was as disgusted as

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<v Speaker 2>many of you have been with the results that he's

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<v Speaker 2>been giving, but in that case he had a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit of bad luck. He did have a base hit

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<v Speaker 2>earlier in the game, but very disappointing game overall. When

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to the results of some of the hard

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<v Speaker 2>hit balls. There were a couple of deep fly balls

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<v Speaker 2>to the outfield that went almost three hundred ninety feet

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<v Speaker 2>just you know, warning track fly balls. A couple of

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<v Speaker 2>hard hit ground balls as well, so you know, when

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<v Speaker 2>you hit the ball six times over one hundred miles

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<v Speaker 2>an hour, you kind of expect at least a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of those to fall for hits. So for none of

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<v Speaker 2>them too. That was a little bit of bad luck.

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<v Speaker 3>Definitely some bad luck, to be sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks expected batting average in the game was two ninety two.

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<v Speaker 1>That ended with seven hits, could easily have had eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine or ten if some of those hard hit

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<v Speaker 1>balls land land in as you would expect them to.

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<v Speaker 1>At the same time, Jacket still felt like the d

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<v Speaker 1>Backs could have done more with runners in scoring position

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<v Speaker 1>in this game.

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<v Speaker 3>It felt like they.

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<v Speaker 1>Were making the hard contact oftentimes nobody on base, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when there were guys on base, that's when the

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<v Speaker 1>bat quality was a little bit less. In the bottom

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<v Speaker 1>of the first inning, the d Backs scored a run,

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<v Speaker 1>but then they were unable to get anything else across

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<v Speaker 1>with a runner at second one out. There were several

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<v Speaker 1>other situations like that throughout the game. The bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the third also stands out there. Heraldo Perdomo led off

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<v Speaker 1>that ending with a single and stole second, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you've got the middle of the lineup do up. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>Corbyn Carroll struck out, Gabby Mourno struck out, Lords Guriel

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<v Speaker 1>then drew a walk, and then Ildemar of Vargas just

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<v Speaker 1>an immediate first pitch ground out. To get the Brewers

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<v Speaker 1>out of that jam. So even though there was some

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<v Speaker 1>bad luck in this game, Jack, there also was a

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<v Speaker 1>continuation of a recent trend, which was the Diamondbacks just

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<v Speaker 1>not putting good at bats together when they really needed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, and the seventh inning, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>did get a run across, but Gabriel Marino came up

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<v Speaker 2>and very nearly hit into another double play. We'll get

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<v Speaker 2>to the first one in a little bit, but he

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<v Speaker 2>almost hit into another double play in this series, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then that at bat, I mean, he took two

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<v Speaker 2>pitches in the heart of the zone for cold strikes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then he got another sinker, and now he's you know,

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<v Speaker 2>with two strikes on him. He's got a swing and

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<v Speaker 2>it was a strike. It would have been a strike

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<v Speaker 2>cold strike three, but it was a pitch you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a little down in the zone. Uh. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>he ended up, you know, hitting it too shortstop. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know why they're not pulling the trigger early

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<v Speaker 2>in counts when the balls dead center. That's the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>problem really is, you know, there's just too many center

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<v Speaker 2>cut pitches that they're not swinging at, and that puts

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<v Speaker 2>them down in the count because they're easy cold strikes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then they're forced to protect and now they're swinging

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<v Speaker 2>at pitches and the shadows one and contact isn't as good.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've said this before and I'll say it again.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, they got to go back to old school

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<v Speaker 2>philosophy here, Like Mark Grace used to always say, with

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<v Speaker 2>zero strikes on you, your strike zone should be the

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<v Speaker 2>size of a shoe box. Okay, after you get a

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<v Speaker 2>strike on you, then you can start to expand that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're if you have zero strikes against you,

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<v Speaker 2>oh oh one, O, two oh three, to oho your

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<v Speaker 2>shoe Your shoebox size strike zone is the way to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And if it's in that heart of the zone, go

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<v Speaker 2>ahead and take your cut. For some reason, they remain

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<v Speaker 2>the lowest swinging team on pitches in the heart of

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<v Speaker 2>the zone. I do not know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that is a very fair point. And

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<v Speaker 1>throughout this series, another narrative for the offense was struggling

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<v Speaker 1>against the bullpen. In particular, the Diamondbacks did get into

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<v Speaker 1>the Brewers bullpen very early in all three games of

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<v Speaker 1>these series. Granted, the second game was really just because

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<v Speaker 1>of an unfortunate injury on Brandon Woodruff's part, exact same

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<v Speaker 1>story is what happened the last time he faced the Diamondbacks. Sad,

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<v Speaker 1>sad to see him go on the il again. But

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<v Speaker 1>the Diamondbacks, you know, they made Brandon sprote throw ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two pitches in those front four innings.

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<v Speaker 3>In this game.

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<v Speaker 1>They had back quality was pretty good against Brandon's broke. Granted,

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<v Speaker 1>he also was spraying the ball around, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>some of those pitches were pretty easy takes. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the moment the Brewers bullpen enters the game, it just

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<v Speaker 1>feels like the Diamondbacks are are losing that approach. And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you see Grant Anderson come out and get

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<v Speaker 1>five outs on sixteen pitches. And that was sort of

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<v Speaker 1>a trend throughout this series, Jack, where the Brewers bullpen

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<v Speaker 1>covered seventeen and two thirds innings in this series altogether,

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<v Speaker 1>almost six innings per game on average, And the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 1>only saw two hundred and twenty one pitches in those

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen and two thirds innings. And I know that is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe hard to make sense of in your mind, but

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<v Speaker 1>if you do the math, that's an average of twelve

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<v Speaker 1>point five pitches per inning, and it was actually quite

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<v Speaker 1>a bit higher on Sunday than it was in the

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<v Speaker 1>first two games. That number went up in the finale

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<v Speaker 1>of this series. So it's not just a matter of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Diamondbacks needing to have better at bats overall,

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<v Speaker 1>which is certainly true. But yeah, I mean, you you

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<v Speaker 1>just have to like when you know that the opposing

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<v Speaker 1>team is getting into their bullpen early and might run

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<v Speaker 1>out of arms, that just means all the more that

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<v Speaker 1>you want to be patient and really work counts.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe part of it is they're thinking, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>we got the starter out of the game, I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>too worried about the relievers workload. You know, now's the

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<v Speaker 2>time to be more aggressive, right because you're not generally

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<v Speaker 2>worried about that particular issue of how long you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to extend it. But in this case, you know, they

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<v Speaker 2>should have been a little bit more cognitive. I mean, Patrick,

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<v Speaker 2>would do you go three in the thirds or three

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<v Speaker 2>and two thirds? Only use thirty something pitches?

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<v Speaker 3>Something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, in his out in the first game and

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<v Speaker 2>then yoho, who I always want to call you who?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he got you know, eight outs on twenty

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<v Speaker 2>seven pitches. Something like that. So, yeah, that's that's pretty

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<v Speaker 2>much what you're talking about there, I mean, essentially, you

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<v Speaker 2>know the Brewers' bullpen thromatos there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that was the Friday game the Brewers bullpen.

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<v Speaker 1>That game, of course, went to extra innings, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers bullpen needed just ninety pitches to get through eight

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<v Speaker 1>and the third innings in that game, of course, they

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<v Speaker 1>did not allow and earned run the entire way. And

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<v Speaker 1>that is a good segue into the first couple games

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<v Speaker 1>of this series.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not going to.

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<v Speaker 1>Dwell on them too much. We've got some other stuff

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<v Speaker 1>to get into in the show. But we will talk

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<v Speaker 1>about games one and two of this series against the Brewers.

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<v Speaker 1>But first we're gonna hit a break here on Snakes territory,

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<v Speaker 2>Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll start with, well, we'll turn back the clock.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll go back to the Friday game, which does feel

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<v Speaker 1>like a distant memory. And you know, to the audience

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<v Speaker 1>member who maybe doesn't want to relive this game, I

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<v Speaker 1>hear you. I understand. We won't spend two too much

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<v Speaker 1>time here. But there were some interesting moments along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>This was quite a baseball game on Friday night on

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<v Speaker 1>Apple TV plus. Diamondbacks fall behind three nothing early. Jose

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<v Speaker 1>Cabrera was just spraying the ball all over the place

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<v Speaker 1>in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>Did not look good.

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks come back to I guess before they scored any runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Lordis Gurriel Junior prevented that game from getting completely out

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<v Speaker 1>of hand and robbed a three run home run, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best catches we've seen by a Diamondbacks player

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<v Speaker 1>this season. If he doesn't catch that, it's six nothing

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers and maybe the game isn't very interesting the.

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<v Speaker 3>Rest of the way.

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<v Speaker 1>But Guriel makes that catch, the d Backs are able

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the board and put three runs up,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the thing happens we were talking about earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>where Kyle Harrison is no longer in the game, the Brewers'

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<v Speaker 1>bullpen is out there doing their thing, and there just

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<v Speaker 1>seeing like no pitches whatsoever, and the game is flying by,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually we go to extra innings in a three

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<v Speaker 1>to three tie, and the big decision that everyone's been

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in the aftermath came in the bottom of

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<v Speaker 1>the tenth. Heraldo Perdomo is the ghost runner on second base. This,

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<v Speaker 1>of course is after Taylor Clark has already put up

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<v Speaker 1>a zero in the top of the tenth, given the

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<v Speaker 1>Dbacks a good chance to win this game. So Perdomo's

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<v Speaker 1>at second, Corbyn Carrol is intentionally walked, and then Gabrielle

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<v Speaker 1>Moreno is at the plate. So you've got first and

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<v Speaker 1>second and nobody out. And Jack, I know you feel

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<v Speaker 1>pretty passionately about what the Diamondbacks should have done. Next.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know if it's what they should have done,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's what they should have been able to do.

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<v Speaker 2>If that's the Brewers, we know exactly what they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do. They're going to bunt. There's no question that

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<v Speaker 2>they're going to bun. Christian Yelich bunted today. Gabriel Marino

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<v Speaker 2>does not have a regular season but in his major

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<v Speaker 2>league career. I didn't realize it at the time when

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<v Speaker 2>I posted on Twitter. He did have one in the

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<v Speaker 2>World Series of All Places in twenty twenty three, but

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<v Speaker 2>he's never had a sacrifice bunt in his major league

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<v Speaker 2>regular season career. So my first question is, like, why not,

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<v Speaker 2>Like why does he not possess that skill? The way

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<v Speaker 2>Gabby hits the ball, he hits a lot of ground balls,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and he has hit into a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>double plays in his career. He's got a high DP percentage,

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<v Speaker 2>which is the percentage of opportunities to hit into a

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<v Speaker 2>double play. A little it was a little lower than

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<v Speaker 2>MLB average this year, but for his career it's well

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<v Speaker 2>above average. And he's a DP risk clearly, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>been hitting into a number of them lately, even amongst

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<v Speaker 2>his hot streak. So I didn't feel comfortable with it.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought they should have bunted. All you need is

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<v Speaker 2>one run you get you know, you get second and

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<v Speaker 2>third with one out, first base open. Now you've got

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<v Speaker 2>lordis up. Everyone says, well, you know, Lord has popped

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<v Speaker 2>out anyway, after Gabby hit into the double play. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's a diffinite bat if it's second and third. First

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<v Speaker 2>of all, now the pitcher's got to run on third

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<v Speaker 2>base and he can't afford to spike one, and so

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<v Speaker 2>the you know, oh well you just got to hit

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<v Speaker 2>Lords down. And the way he's going to swing, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if all you need to do is

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<v Speaker 2>get the ball in the air. I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Lord has probably take a picture too there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he's going to have a little bit different

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<v Speaker 2>approach and he's probably not going to be so prone

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<v Speaker 2>to swing out of the zone in that situation, knowing

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<v Speaker 2>that all he needs to do is wait for a

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<v Speaker 2>ball up and hit it in the air, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>And if he doesn't get one, he takes his base,

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<v Speaker 2>goes to first base and bases loaded with one out,

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<v Speaker 2>and you move it on to the next h So

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<v Speaker 2>the flip side of that is Gaby hasn't bunted. He's

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<v Speaker 2>probably not a good bunter. Maybe he hits into a

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<v Speaker 2>double play when he bunts. He had been hot of late,

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<v Speaker 2>and he had good numbers with running scoring position overall,

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, there's two sides of this. Coin. I

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<v Speaker 2>know you can go either way, but I go back

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<v Speaker 2>to what I said earlier in the show about the

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<v Speaker 2>Diamondbacks not being well equipped to win this kind of

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<v Speaker 2>game in this kind of series while the Brewers are,

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what really kind of stuck in my crawl.

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<v Speaker 2>Just felt like they're not equipped to win this game.

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<v Speaker 1>So you feel that Gabby Moreno and any Diamondbacks hitter

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<v Speaker 1>effectively should be capable of putting a bunt down there,

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<v Speaker 1>like that should be a button that Tory Lavello is

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<v Speaker 1>able to press.

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<v Speaker 2>Christian Yelich can bunt. Why can't Gabby Moreno.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Yelich is not the hittery Like, he's basically

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<v Speaker 1>been around the league average hitter this year and it

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<v Speaker 1>was a left on left matchup today. But I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I see where you're coming from. Certainly, this is something

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<v Speaker 1>the Brewers are known for. And if Gabby Moreno played

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<v Speaker 1>for the Brewers, it wouldn't shock me. If you know

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<v Speaker 1>he's he's getting more reps bunting and getting used to

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<v Speaker 1>that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, if Gaby Mourno played for Pat Murphy yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and didn't put a bunt down there could be yanked

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<v Speaker 2>out of the lineup.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that that very well may be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the and granted, like Gabby Moreno did ground

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<v Speaker 1>into a double play, and so I understand I'm sort

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<v Speaker 1>of on the inherently losing side of the argument because

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<v Speaker 1>hindsight is twenty twenty and obviously Gabby Moreno should have bunted.

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<v Speaker 1>From that standpoint, it didn't work out the way that

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<v Speaker 1>they went. But I had a hard time criticizing Tory

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<v Speaker 1>Leavello for that decision. I think that, you know, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>the Brewers maybe would be more equipped to win that game,

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<v Speaker 1>But I also think the guy hitting fifth for the

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<v Speaker 1>Brewers is a much better hitter than lordus Curyle Junior is.

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<v Speaker 3>Right now, I just don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I just don't think that anything Lordis has shown this season,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, means that he's a guy who is someone

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<v Speaker 1>you can count on with a with a runner at

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<v Speaker 1>third and less than two outs to get the job done.

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<v Speaker 1>Lordis is not hitting. His hard hit rate is low,

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<v Speaker 1>his pop up rate is much higher than it's been

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<v Speaker 1>in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Time a medium fly ball wins the game, he's just

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<v Speaker 2>got to get the ball in the.

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<v Speaker 3>Air, That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the back quality from Lordis Curyle Junior of

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<v Speaker 1>late is such that even hitting a medium quality fly

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<v Speaker 1>ball doesn't feel like a given to me. So I hear,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear your perspective. I think you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's valid.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel super passionately either way, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>for me, it was hard to criticize the decision, and

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<v Speaker 1>unfortunately it didn't wind up working for the Dbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not criticizing Toy so much because of the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Gabby's never bunted for sack sack, doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>sack butt in his career, so he's got to be

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about that, like he's never bunted. Look, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>there's a bunt club, you know that we jokingly call

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<v Speaker 2>it in the press box and every you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>six or eight players that are out there on the

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<v Speaker 2>field with Jeff Banister before every game, and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>same eight guys, and it's like nobody else is allowed

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<v Speaker 2>to bunt. Yeah, And I just don't think that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that should be whoe of a rotation.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they all should be taking that practice, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think they all should have the ability to get

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<v Speaker 2>a bunt down when it's needed, and so Tory not

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<v Speaker 2>calling on Gabby to bunt there I understand simply on

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<v Speaker 2>the basis of Gabby never bunts he probably wouldn't execute.

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<v Speaker 2>So I go back to what I said at the beginning,

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, why aren't they built this way? This isn't

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<v Speaker 2>a team that's going to slug their way into the

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<v Speaker 2>playoffs and back to the World Series. They've got to

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<v Speaker 2>play like the Brewers, they got to play like the

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<v Speaker 2>Rays or not.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I see where you're coming from. For sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think that Gabrielle Moreno has a you know

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<v Speaker 1>for something on base percentage the past twenty or thirty games.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been the team's best hitter for a while now,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he deserves a shot in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>I just think taking the bat out of his hands

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<v Speaker 1>and giving it to Lords Gurriel Junior, who by all

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<v Speaker 1>accounts this season is graded out as one of the

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<v Speaker 1>worst hitters in baseball. Yes, he doesn't need he doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>need to base it. You know, a fly ball gets

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<v Speaker 1>the job done. But it feels like a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>ask from him, as unfortunate as that is. So let

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<v Speaker 1>us know what you think in the comments. It is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a moot point now because the Dbacks lost

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<v Speaker 1>the game anyway. Ryan Thompson had some ventures on the mound,

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<v Speaker 1>shall we say, in the next inning. D Backs ultimately

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<v Speaker 1>lose that one, seven to four. But it was quite

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<v Speaker 1>a baseball game to watch. That is something we can

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<v Speaker 1>say for sure. Game two of the series, Jack was

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<v Speaker 1>the of course, the one game the Diamondbacks won. And

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<v Speaker 1>I'll just throw this on the screen to start off

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation. This is from at MLB underscore simulator on

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter and about this Saturday game. They declare that the

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<v Speaker 1>d Backs are luck merchants and according to their calculations,

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<v Speaker 1>they're using batted ball data, a whole lot of data

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<v Speaker 1>from the game, and they determined that the Brewers deserved

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<v Speaker 1>had a ninety four percent deserve to win rate compared

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<v Speaker 1>to the Diamondbacks at two percent. According to their calculations,

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<v Speaker 1>the most likely final score for that game was five

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<v Speaker 1>to one in favor of Milwaukee, and yet the Diamondbacks

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately came away with a four to three win.

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<v Speaker 3>That is kind of how it felt watching this game. Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks had nineteen consecutive hitters retired in the middle innings

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<v Speaker 1>of course covering most of the game, but Adrian del

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<v Speaker 1>Castillo hit a really big three run home run in

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<v Speaker 1>the first inning and Yieldamara Vargas tacked on a key

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<v Speaker 1>insurance run late with an RBI double. D Bacs just

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<v Speaker 1>barely sneak out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>With a win. Yeah, of course, Paul gave up a

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<v Speaker 2>home run with two outs to you know, get away

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<v Speaker 2>with the took a four to two lead to a

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<v Speaker 2>four to three lead still recorded to save you know,

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<v Speaker 2>they look, they were out hit twelve to four. So

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<v Speaker 2>that's an easier way to say, like they were lucky

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<v Speaker 2>to win, but that deserved to win. O meters. Just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of a fun little thing. And you know, the

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<v Speaker 2>last thing I'll say about this series. I mean, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>for the whole series, the Diamondbacks were six for twenty

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<v Speaker 2>nine with runnerchan scoring position, three for twelve, one for four,

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<v Speaker 2>and two for thirteen. Meanwhile, the Brewers on Friday were

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<v Speaker 2>three for eighteen. They were one for ten on Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>and then one for five today, so five for thirty three.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, do you want to credit the pitchers

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<v Speaker 2>for getting the tough outs and getting it done, or

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<v Speaker 2>do you want to blame the hitters, but neither team

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<v Speaker 2>actually did very well situationally at the plate.

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<v Speaker 3>No, certainly not.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the Diamondbacks, you know, they do deserve

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<v Speaker 1>some credit for that. Their pitchers were able to bear

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<v Speaker 1>down for the most part when they needed to. Merrill Kelly,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's worth mentioning Jack. He did look better

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<v Speaker 1>in that game on Saturday. He generated some swing and miss.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it was thirteen whiffs for him.

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<v Speaker 3>In that game.

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<v Speaker 1>He had six strikeouts with tie to a season high.

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<v Speaker 1>Still gave up eight hits in two walks. There was

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a lot of traffic on the base runners,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was good to see him bear down in

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<v Speaker 1>those key moments and get the outs he needed, as

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<v Speaker 1>opposed to, you know, just kind of fold and give in,

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<v Speaker 1>which is what we've seen most of this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean he had a good curve, bull, he

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<v Speaker 2>had a good change up. You know. It's like nice

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<v Speaker 2>to see Meryl getting swinging and miss on the change

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<v Speaker 2>up again too. Yeah, I mean it seems like they've

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<v Speaker 2>been forever. Like what I was his best pitch, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what happened to it? So more please you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, probably five innings, two runs allowed, is

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<v Speaker 2>probably going to have to be like what we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to have to accept going forward for a good outing

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<v Speaker 2>from Merrill. I don't think we're going to see a

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<v Speaker 2>very high percentage of quality starts from him going forward.

0:24:38.240 --> 0:24:40.240
<v Speaker 2>I just think that the deeper he gets into games,

0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.600
<v Speaker 2>teams are kind of keying in on him, and that's

0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:46.959
<v Speaker 2>probably likely to continue. So we'll see. I mean, you know,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 2>maybe maybe I'm wrong on that, maybe the big turnarounds coming.

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:54.760
<v Speaker 2>I think he'll be serviceable at least half the time,

0:24:56.000 --> 0:24:59.600
<v Speaker 2>but not necessarily you know, lights out. I think those

0:24:59.680 --> 0:25:03.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, that complete game was kind of one off.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I don't expect to see that again, but

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<v Speaker 2>I could be very wrong. I mean, maybe this was

0:25:08.440 --> 0:25:12.359
<v Speaker 2>the turn the corner moment. He did seem to you know,

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 2>his postgame comments. I mean, he really seemed like he

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 2>did have some kind of an epiphany after the previous

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<v Speaker 2>outing and you know, had a big change in approach

0:25:21.240 --> 0:25:26.800
<v Speaker 2>and adjustment and attacking the zone. So fingers crossed, that

0:25:27.359 --> 0:25:29.320
<v Speaker 2>is really a turnaround, but we're going to have to

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<v Speaker 2>see more of it to believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>The big thing I'm watching with Merrill Kelly is just

0:25:35.400 --> 0:25:38.320
<v Speaker 1>what percentage of his pitches are in the strike zone.

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I just think that's a really important thing for him,

0:25:40.480 --> 0:25:42.719
<v Speaker 1>and it still was on the lower end in that

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:45.879
<v Speaker 1>game yesterday. Forty five percent of his pitches were in

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<v Speaker 1>the zone. League averages around forty eight, and for Marrow,

0:25:49.400 --> 0:25:51.720
<v Speaker 1>you probably want him to be maybe even a little

0:25:51.720 --> 0:25:55.280
<v Speaker 1>bit north of that if anything. So really it just

0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:58.320
<v Speaker 1>felt like the cutter, he just sprayed the cutter around

0:25:58.480 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 1>a little bit too much some uncompetitive pitches there.

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<v Speaker 3>I think if he's able to.

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<v Speaker 1>Subtract some of those uncompetitive pitches and fill up the

0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:10.000
<v Speaker 1>zone a little more and couple that with the swing

0:26:10.040 --> 0:26:11.680
<v Speaker 1>and miss that we saw on the change up in

0:26:11.720 --> 0:26:14.240
<v Speaker 1>the curveball, I think there still could be a decent

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.160
<v Speaker 1>version of Merrill Kelly out there. The velocity was up

0:26:17.200 --> 0:26:20.440
<v Speaker 1>in this game, as fastball average ninety three point four.

0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Everything was up across the board. So it still doesn't

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:26.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like it's a huge stuff drop off. It's just

0:26:26.600 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 1>a matter of getting his command to be on par

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:33.520
<v Speaker 1>with what it's been in recent seasons, and granted that's

0:26:33.520 --> 0:26:35.440
<v Speaker 1>not an easy thing to do. I mean, Meryl Kelly

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.199
<v Speaker 1>at his best has some of the best command that

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 1>we see in all of baseball, So still still yeah,

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:45.639
<v Speaker 1>you want to see more from Meryl more of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Moving forward, a couple of news items before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into some fun trade deadline speculation. The Diamondbacks did make

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>a roster move prior to Sunday's Game Jack. They optioned

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:01.160
<v Speaker 1>the Lou James Groover down to trip Ballet. They recalled

0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:05.280
<v Speaker 1>Tim Tawa. Tawa of course went on to start that

0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Sunday game Jack. What were your initial thoughts on this move?

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, I mean it goes back to the

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:17.679
<v Speaker 2>fact that Lou James Gruber had had gone four for

0:27:17.760 --> 0:27:22.720
<v Speaker 2>twelve with two doubles, in, a homer and three walks

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:28.399
<v Speaker 2>over you know, fifteen plate appearances, okay, and then he

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:31.240
<v Speaker 2>hit that homer on the twenty fourth. The next day

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 2>he was out of the lineup, but they it was

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:37.000
<v Speaker 2>rained out. He didn't play the next day. He played

0:27:37.040 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 2>on the twenty seventh, went over three, and then didn't

0:27:41.359 --> 0:27:45.080
<v Speaker 2>play again until Saturday when he went over two. Then

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 2>he was lifted mid game. So he got five plate

0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:55.400
<v Speaker 2>appearances from the twenty fifth of June and July fourth, right,

0:27:55.480 --> 0:27:58.800
<v Speaker 2>So that's nine days, five plate appearances in nine days.

0:28:00.720 --> 0:28:05.320
<v Speaker 2>And I meanwhile, at the same time. I think Peven

0:28:05.760 --> 0:28:09.320
<v Speaker 2>started in five games and got eighteen or nineteen played appearances.

0:28:09.840 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 2>And yes, I understand they're not facing left handed pitching

0:28:13.800 --> 0:28:17.560
<v Speaker 2>very much. You know, it's almost all right handers. But

0:28:18.400 --> 0:28:20.560
<v Speaker 2>Peven hasn't been doing anything for a long time. We've

0:28:20.600 --> 0:28:26.000
<v Speaker 2>talked about this at nauseum, you know, and certainly they

0:28:26.040 --> 0:28:29.200
<v Speaker 2>could have gotten at least two more starts for Groover

0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:32.560
<v Speaker 2>in their you know, platoon matchup. Be damned. I'm not

0:28:32.640 --> 0:28:37.239
<v Speaker 2>saying that they should have completely bench Peven. Maybe they

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:40.520
<v Speaker 2>should have, I don't know, but how hard could it

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:46.640
<v Speaker 2>have been to not completely ice Krouver? You know, so

0:28:47.920 --> 0:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>that bothers me. I mean like there was no need

0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:54.200
<v Speaker 2>to actually ice him that badly. I mean, he could

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 2>have at least had six or eight more at bats

0:28:57.280 --> 0:28:59.560
<v Speaker 2>in that nine day period. There was no need to

0:28:59.600 --> 0:29:04.640
<v Speaker 2>complete run away from him. Now, you know, they can say, okay,

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.640
<v Speaker 2>well we send him back to Triple A so that

0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.320
<v Speaker 2>he can play every day, but you know, he needed

0:29:09.320 --> 0:29:11.280
<v Speaker 2>to play here or so you see what you got.

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:14.640
<v Speaker 2>We don't know what we got. His APT beets look better.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>You know. It wasn't just that he had the three

0:29:16.480 --> 0:29:18.000
<v Speaker 2>for twelve with the two doubles and a homer. He

0:29:18.000 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 2>also took three walks in there. Some of those apt

0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:23.680
<v Speaker 2>beats look pretty good, so you know, and then they

0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:27.120
<v Speaker 2>just completely shut him down. And meanwhile, Peven just keeps

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 2>getting more and more opportunities and he's never the one

0:29:30.520 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>to be let go. And I understand as well or

0:29:33.200 --> 0:29:37.800
<v Speaker 2>better than everybody, the finality of DFA, but it's really

0:29:37.840 --> 0:29:40.920
<v Speaker 2>to the detriment of the team here. And I don't know,

0:29:41.000 --> 0:29:43.560
<v Speaker 2>maybe he hasn't been striking out too much, although he

0:29:43.680 --> 0:29:47.240
<v Speaker 2>struck out twice today. Peven, you know, did have a hit,

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:49.760
<v Speaker 2>and he did have that hardline drive. Maybe they're seeing

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:53.840
<v Speaker 2>something improved quality of at bat and something esoteric. I

0:29:53.840 --> 0:29:57.680
<v Speaker 2>don't know. Results Tory keeps talking about king of the

0:29:57.720 --> 0:30:00.440
<v Speaker 2>court and playing the hot hand, you know, but the

0:30:00.480 --> 0:30:02.520
<v Speaker 2>one hot hand he was starting to develop there and

0:30:02.520 --> 0:30:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Groover he iced him.

0:30:05.200 --> 0:30:06.320
<v Speaker 3>I think that's all very fair.

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Groover did do some things really well when he was

0:30:09.440 --> 0:30:11.720
<v Speaker 1>up at the big league level. He really didn't chase

0:30:11.760 --> 0:30:14.040
<v Speaker 1>out of his zone much. His chase rate was really low.

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>He didn't swing and miss much. His strikeout and walk

0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:20.720
<v Speaker 1>grates were good. Like many d BACS hitters, the quality

0:30:20.760 --> 0:30:23.760
<v Speaker 1>of contact wasn't great. His expected batting average was still

0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:27.360
<v Speaker 1>just two fifteen there, but yeah, he was doing some

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>things well, and I'm right there with you. That felt

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>like you should have been able to find him a

0:30:31.720 --> 0:30:34.880
<v Speaker 1>game here there, just to at least give him a chance.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.720
<v Speaker 1>And sure, you know, if he has a couple games

0:30:37.720 --> 0:30:39.600
<v Speaker 1>where he goes oh for four, then maybe you would

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:42.760
<v Speaker 1>rather just send him down at least through the All

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Star break and let him play every day the rest

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:47.520
<v Speaker 1>of the way. D Backs, as you mentioned, are getting

0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:51.080
<v Speaker 1>all right handed pitchers. It looks like between now and

0:30:51.120 --> 0:30:53.680
<v Speaker 1>in the All Star break, so you could understand that

0:30:53.720 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>to an extent, but it does feel incomplete with Groover

0:30:57.360 --> 0:31:00.800
<v Speaker 1>having just the fifty four played appearances big leagues and

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>now back on his way to Triple A. So yeah,

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.640
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a surprising move there for the Diamondbacks,

0:31:07.680 --> 0:31:10.520
<v Speaker 1>but that is the one that they made. We're gonna

0:31:10.520 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 1>get into some fun read Debtmer's talk here on Snake's Territory,

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<v Speaker 1>series to hit a home run for the Diamondbacks.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Walker Bueller is a ground ball pitcher. Totell Martell

0:31:58.240 --> 0:32:03.440
<v Speaker 2>has five homers against groundble pitchers. Maybe his home run

0:32:03.440 --> 0:32:06.760
<v Speaker 2>hot streak is over. But if you want a safe bet,

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<v Speaker 2>I would go with Katel. If you want to go

0:32:10.760 --> 0:32:14.480
<v Speaker 2>with a long shot, Nolan Arnado hit two home runs

0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.560
<v Speaker 2>in his career against Walker Bueler, but those are back

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<v Speaker 2>in twenty nineteen. But he just had a day off

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday. He just barely missed a home run on Saturday.

0:32:24.240 --> 0:32:27.040
<v Speaker 2>So maybe you know the day off has rejuvenated him.

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<v Speaker 2>And so if you're looking for a little bit more

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<v Speaker 2>of a longer shot, that Nolan Aronado might be a

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<v Speaker 2>good call for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Corbyn Carrol has looked pretty rough lately for the Diamondbacks.

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.320
<v Speaker 1>There's there's no getting around that. But I am going

0:32:40.360 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>to say Corbyn. Nonetheless, the Diamondbacks are getting Gryffin Canning

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:49.200
<v Speaker 1>in the finale of that Padre series, and yeah, Gryffin

0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 1>Canning as a six point seven to one. It's been

0:32:51.960 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 1>one of the worst right handed pitchers in baseball this season,

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and it just feels like at some point Corbyn is

0:32:59.200 --> 0:33:02.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna find his way again. And Canning is a guy

0:33:02.960 --> 0:33:05.880
<v Speaker 1>who doesn't have the big velocity that it feels like

0:33:05.960 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>Corbyn has really dealt with a lot lately, especially in

0:33:09.200 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>that Brewer series, and so yeah, seems like a good

0:33:13.320 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>right handed pitcher for Corbin to kind of get back

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.040
<v Speaker 1>on track against. So we'll see if he's able to

0:33:20.400 --> 0:33:24.520
<v Speaker 1>able to do that. Diamondbacks. While we're talking Padres series here,

0:33:24.560 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 1>it's a four game set, it obviously is very very

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.640
<v Speaker 1>important for them as we wind down heading to the

0:33:30.680 --> 0:33:33.760
<v Speaker 1>All Star Break. The pitching matchups for the series, it

0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:36.240
<v Speaker 1>looks like it will be Brandon Fodd and Walker Bueler

0:33:36.280 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 1>on Monday, Zach Gallon going against potentially Johnny Brido for

0:33:40.920 --> 0:33:44.400
<v Speaker 1>the Padres on Tuesday. He's not listed on MLB, but

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:48.200
<v Speaker 1>that is what roster resource has Johnny Brido is down

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<v Speaker 1>in Triple A for the Padres right now, could be

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<v Speaker 1>called up there. Wednesday game is Jose Cabrera who's getting

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<v Speaker 1>another shot after his rough one against Milwaukee. He'll be

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<v Speaker 1>opposed by Michael King. Tough matchup for the de Bas there,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's Merril Kelly against Griffin Canning in the

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<v Speaker 1>finale of the series. So dad's where the Dbacks have ahead?

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<v Speaker 2>Just something I want to say real quick about that

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:53.160
<v Speaker 2>Padre series. Yeah. On May twenty eight, if you look

0:34:53.200 --> 0:34:55.520
<v Speaker 2>ahead to this series, you would think, boy, this is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be huge. Both teams were thirty one and

0:34:58.840 --> 0:35:04.239
<v Speaker 2>twenty four, so they were tied, and the d Backs

0:35:04.280 --> 0:35:07.600
<v Speaker 2>at that point had a playoff odds at Fangrafts of

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<v Speaker 2>fifty four percent and the Padres at thirty five percent

0:35:11.160 --> 0:35:15.880
<v Speaker 2>because they projected better. And you know if you fast

0:35:15.920 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 2>forward to July fifth and see if they updated. So

0:35:20.560 --> 0:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Diamondbacks are forty four and forty five, the Padres are

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<v Speaker 2>forty three and forty five. The d Backs have a

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<v Speaker 2>fifteen percent chance to make the playoffs and the Padres

0:35:28.280 --> 0:35:32.040
<v Speaker 2>have a ten percent chance to make the playoffs. And

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<v Speaker 2>that's all I got to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Padres are desperate to get a win. They've lost eight

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.440
<v Speaker 1>in a row. They are facing the Dodgers as they

0:35:42.440 --> 0:35:45.040
<v Speaker 1>record right now, see if they're able to get back

0:35:45.040 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>in the win column in that game. But yes, the Diamondbacks,

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<v Speaker 1>their fate at the trade deadline is still very much

0:35:53.160 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 1>to be determined. So today we are going to focus

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<v Speaker 1>our trade speculation on a player that could make make

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<v Speaker 1>sense for the Diamondbacks regardless of whether they buy or sell,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is Los Angeles Angels left hander Reed Debtmers.

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<v Speaker 1>Here are Debtmers numbers for the twenty twenty six season,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and four and two thirds innings. A four

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<v Speaker 1>to one three r A one to one one whip.

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<v Speaker 1>Strikeout rate is impressive at twenty seven point one percent.

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<v Speaker 1>Walk rate is below league average for the first time

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<v Speaker 1>in his career, I believe, at seven point nine percent.

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<v Speaker 1>The peripherals here are pretty good. A three point zero

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<v Speaker 1>eight FIP, a three seven six x FIP in a

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<v Speaker 1>three to one eight expected er.

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<v Speaker 3>Jack.

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<v Speaker 1>On MLB Network earlier today, John Hayman said that Debtmers

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<v Speaker 1>is quote really coveted around the league, or that he

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:53.319
<v Speaker 1>expects him to be a hot commodity at the trade deadline.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, there are no assurances that the Angels will

0:36:57.160 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>actually be willing to trade him. That is one of

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:03.439
<v Speaker 1>the big variables here. Deptmers is under team control through

0:37:03.480 --> 0:37:06.200
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty eight, so this is a starting pitcher that

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:08.920
<v Speaker 1>you'd have not only for the rest of this season,

0:37:09.320 --> 0:37:12.360
<v Speaker 1>but two seasons after that as well.

0:37:12.560 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the fact that he's you know, still in his

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:18.680
<v Speaker 2>just his first arbitration year, he's only making two point

0:37:18.719 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 2>six million dollars. You know, he's striking out a lot

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:27.280
<v Speaker 2>of batters. He's throwing strikes, you know, and it's interesting

0:37:27.320 --> 0:37:29.520
<v Speaker 2>to just kind of look at his pedigree a little bit.

0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.560
<v Speaker 2>You know. Deptmers was a tenth overall pick by the

0:37:32.560 --> 0:37:38.240
<v Speaker 2>Angels in twenty twenty out of Louisville, and nobody above him. Actually,

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:42.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, has more Baseball Reference WAR from that draft.

0:37:42.760 --> 0:37:45.640
<v Speaker 2>He's got five to seven. Garrett Crochet was the eleventh

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:49.960
<v Speaker 2>pick and he's got eleven plus WAR. The d Backs

0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.040
<v Speaker 2>took Bryce Jarvis eighteenth overall in that first round of

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:55.759
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty. He's got one point one b WAR and

0:37:55.960 --> 0:37:59.799
<v Speaker 2>is laboring down in triple A reno. So you know,

0:37:59.800 --> 0:38:01.720
<v Speaker 2>it's it's kind of interesting to look at his history.

0:38:02.000 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 2>He was moved to the bullpen after a disastrous twenty

0:38:05.440 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 2>twenty four in the rotation with a six plus ERA.

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:12.200
<v Speaker 2>He ended up in the bullpen in twenty five. I

0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:15.200
<v Speaker 2>think he pitched over sixty games or something like that,

0:38:16.040 --> 0:38:17.640
<v Speaker 2>and he had a pretty good year. But back in

0:38:17.680 --> 0:38:20.359
<v Speaker 2>the rotation this year and he's having a career year.

0:38:20.880 --> 0:38:24.120
<v Speaker 2>So that puts the Angels in a good cell position

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.480
<v Speaker 2>with regards to hey, I've got this young, controllable pitcher.

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't cost a lot of money. You know, he

0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:36.000
<v Speaker 2>averages about ninety four miles on his fastball. He actually

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 2>had the proverbial uptick last year. He was like at

0:38:39.080 --> 0:38:41.840
<v Speaker 2>ninety five point eight as a reliever. So it's not

0:38:41.880 --> 0:38:45.080
<v Speaker 2>a loss of velocity though, because he actually has been

0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:48.040
<v Speaker 2>around ninety four average through most of his career as

0:38:48.080 --> 0:38:51.919
<v Speaker 2>a starter. So a lot of interesting things about Red

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 2>Detmer is the question, of course becomes what would he cost?

0:38:56.800 --> 0:39:01.560
<v Speaker 2>And that's a tricky, wicked or however that phrase goes.

0:39:03.360 --> 0:39:05.040
<v Speaker 3>I think the short answer is a lot.

0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:08.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, any anytime you're talking about a starting pitcher

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:11.520
<v Speaker 1>with two plus years of control. Deptmers is only twenty

0:39:11.520 --> 0:39:14.359
<v Speaker 1>six years old, which is part of what makes him

0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.399
<v Speaker 1>so attractive. Yeah, there's I mean, this is the type

0:39:17.400 --> 0:39:21.239
<v Speaker 1>of asset that every single team in baseball would would

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:24.040
<v Speaker 1>want to have. And part of the reason we're bringing

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:27.360
<v Speaker 1>his name up is that David Schoenfield over at ESPN

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:31.200
<v Speaker 1>mentioned dept Meers as a trade target for the Diamondbacks

0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:35.320
<v Speaker 1>alongside several other teams. He mentioned the Cardinals, the Athletics

0:39:35.360 --> 0:39:38.359
<v Speaker 1>as well the Nationals. I think we're also in there.

0:39:38.400 --> 0:39:41.520
<v Speaker 1>So the Deptmers is the kind of picture that basically

0:39:41.640 --> 0:39:45.280
<v Speaker 1>any team would would want, and that means the price,

0:39:45.360 --> 0:39:49.000
<v Speaker 1>if you're the Diamondbacks, would be high. You're you're probably

0:39:49.040 --> 0:39:55.879
<v Speaker 1>talking jack about one of the team's top position player prospects,

0:39:56.000 --> 0:40:00.920
<v Speaker 1>a Dimitrio Crossantis, Ryan Waldschmidt. I'm I'm what intrigued how

0:40:00.960 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>teams would value Jordan Lawler. I imagine not as highly

0:40:04.080 --> 0:40:07.440
<v Speaker 1>as those other two guys, because Lawler just so clearly

0:40:07.480 --> 0:40:08.680
<v Speaker 1>has struggled with injuries.

0:40:09.760 --> 0:40:11.279
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, so maybe it's.

0:40:11.200 --> 0:40:15.440
<v Speaker 1>A Demetrio Crossantes plus a couple of pitchers, you know,

0:40:15.640 --> 0:40:19.440
<v Speaker 1>David Hageman and Mitch Bratt, something like that, a picture

0:40:19.480 --> 0:40:22.520
<v Speaker 1>who's pretty close a picture and Bratt, who of course

0:40:22.560 --> 0:40:26.879
<v Speaker 1>has now touched the big league level. A package of

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 1>something like those three guys that probably gets the conversation going.

0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm not totally convinced though, that that's enough for the Angels.

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the fact that a lot of other

0:40:38.560 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 2>teams are going to be in on him, and the

0:40:40.680 --> 0:40:44.600
<v Speaker 2>fact that he's a controllable starting pitcher. You know, I

0:40:44.640 --> 0:40:48.560
<v Speaker 2>know that people that love prospects are going to, you know,

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.080
<v Speaker 2>just completely bulk at the concept of giving up some

0:40:52.120 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>of the top rated prospects that the team has. But

0:40:56.680 --> 0:40:59.319
<v Speaker 2>you know, the reality is this, if you want a

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:03.439
<v Speaker 2>young starting picture with that strikes out more than ten

0:41:03.520 --> 0:41:05.960
<v Speaker 2>per nine and is having a good year and has

0:41:06.000 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 2>two and a half year's remaining of control, it's going

0:41:09.680 --> 0:41:11.840
<v Speaker 2>to cost you if that, you know, But the DBAX

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:14.600
<v Speaker 2>needs somebody like that. I mean, Michael Soroka is probably

0:41:14.640 --> 0:41:16.960
<v Speaker 2>going to be gone in free agency. Of course, Zach

0:41:17.000 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>Gallon's going to be gone. We don't know if Corvin

0:41:20.360 --> 0:41:22.840
<v Speaker 2>Burns is going to be healthy enough next year. We

0:41:22.880 --> 0:41:24.080
<v Speaker 2>don't know where he's going to be at.

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:26.640
<v Speaker 3>Their hope is healthy.

0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>Well believe when I see it, when I see the

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>whites of his eyes on the mound game after game

0:41:33.200 --> 0:41:36.120
<v Speaker 2>and not getting hurt again, and I'll believe it. That's it.

0:41:36.280 --> 0:41:39.399
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, he's a show me guy when

0:41:39.440 --> 0:41:41.120
<v Speaker 2>it comes to health. Now for the rest of his career,

0:41:41.760 --> 0:41:45.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to even debate that. Yes, if he's healthy,

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:47.040
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be good. But we don't know where

0:41:47.080 --> 0:41:49.160
<v Speaker 2>he's going to be at. So you know, when we

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:51.719
<v Speaker 2>were talking about this, you know, I kind of came

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:54.719
<v Speaker 2>up with like low ball offer, medium offer, and make

0:41:54.800 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 2>your eyes water offer, and all three of them started

0:41:58.480 --> 0:42:01.880
<v Speaker 2>off with David Hageman. And you know that may be

0:42:01.920 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>a non starter for Mike Hazen, but that's a starting

0:42:04.960 --> 0:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>pitcher that you know has actually shown the most stuff

0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.480
<v Speaker 2>of late. He's still pretty low down, he's got he's

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:14.320
<v Speaker 2>not ready for the majors yet, so it wouldn't be

0:42:14.440 --> 0:42:18.360
<v Speaker 2>enough to just get Hagerman. But Mike Haysen probably favors

0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 2>Hageman more than just about any other starter in his

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:24.200
<v Speaker 2>system right now. I know he's got a lot of

0:42:24.200 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 2>belief in him. So I don't know if you know

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:30.839
<v Speaker 2>that's that's something that Mike would consider. But if Mike

0:42:30.920 --> 0:42:33.719
<v Speaker 2>feels that strongly about it, guess what scouts of other

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:37.320
<v Speaker 2>teams and other front offices probably feel the same way.

0:42:37.800 --> 0:42:41.120
<v Speaker 2>So it starts with Hageman, and then you know, maybe

0:42:41.560 --> 0:42:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Jose Cabrera and Demetrio Croissants, or maybe Hageman and Bratt.

0:42:45.360 --> 0:42:47.480
<v Speaker 2>Like you said, well you get a major league ready

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:50.680
<v Speaker 2>guy in Crysants, or if you really want to make

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:54.279
<v Speaker 2>your eyes water, Hagerman, Bratt and Walschmidt. And you know,

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 2>people may think like that's madness, and there's no way

0:42:56.760 --> 0:42:59.960
<v Speaker 2>you could consider Hageman, Bratt and crsentis let alone Hageman,

0:43:00.080 --> 0:43:03.200
<v Speaker 2>Ratt and Walshmidt. And I'm not saying they should or will.

0:43:03.640 --> 0:43:07.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm saying it should be that kind of package that's

0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:12.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna be required to peel him away. Yeah.

0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:16.520
<v Speaker 1>I think that is very fair and and it wouldn't

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:19.160
<v Speaker 1>shock me if if the Angels were able to do

0:43:19.239 --> 0:43:23.680
<v Speaker 1>better elsewhere. I think that Ryan Waldschmidt, while I still

0:43:23.719 --> 0:43:26.400
<v Speaker 1>think his value is high, the fact that he he

0:43:26.480 --> 0:43:28.520
<v Speaker 1>did sort of hit a wall in his first stint

0:43:28.640 --> 0:43:30.960
<v Speaker 1>in the big leagues and is not His.

0:43:31.000 --> 0:43:32.399
<v Speaker 3>Numbers in Triple A are good.

0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>I know he had a pretty solid run there, but

0:43:35.880 --> 0:43:38.680
<v Speaker 1>the underlying numbers for him in Triple A are still

0:43:38.719 --> 0:43:41.480
<v Speaker 1>not you know, blow me away. This guy needs to

0:43:41.520 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>be in the majors tomorrow type stuff. He's been a

0:43:44.000 --> 0:43:47.879
<v Speaker 1>clearly above average player, but not necessarily an elite an

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:51.759
<v Speaker 1>elite player there, and then Crissants is in Double.

0:43:51.520 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 3>A and knocking the cover off the ball.

0:43:54.200 --> 0:43:57.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, there's still a lot to prove for him,

0:43:57.080 --> 0:44:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and he's been injury prone and he's he's the type

0:44:00.480 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 1>of player who's probably going to provide most of his

0:44:04.000 --> 0:44:06.880
<v Speaker 1>value from his back. He doesn't have a bunch of

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.319
<v Speaker 1>other tools going for him. That puts a lot of

0:44:09.360 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>pressure on him to really really hit in the major leagues.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>So all that to say, I think I think it's

0:44:16.719 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 1>possible that the top the highest level prospect the Diamondbacks

0:44:20.760 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 1>can offer is is not as intriguing to the Angels

0:44:24.080 --> 0:44:27.279
<v Speaker 1>as the highest level prospect they could get from another team.

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:31.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh, that's that's just kind of the situation that

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:33.040
<v Speaker 1>Dbacks are in right now, where they do have some

0:44:33.080 --> 0:44:37.239
<v Speaker 1>prospects who are interesting, but the the the tier that

0:44:37.280 --> 0:44:39.879
<v Speaker 1>they're able to reach is not quite as high as

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.800
<v Speaker 1>some other some other systems in the league.

0:44:42.719 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, look, then it might even another player,

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:49.480
<v Speaker 2>like it might have to be a volume type situation. Sure,

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 2>well you give up four players or five players.

0:44:53.239 --> 0:44:58.920
<v Speaker 1>We also should probably clarify that, like Deptmers does have

0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.480
<v Speaker 1>a four to one three E this season, which is

0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:04.279
<v Speaker 1>not really going to blow you away. I know you

0:45:04.320 --> 0:45:07.000
<v Speaker 1>did some work on this jack and found that the

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:09.960
<v Speaker 1>which is not rocket science, but the Angels are not

0:45:10.040 --> 0:45:12.960
<v Speaker 1>a very good defensive team and so the fact that

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Deptmer's surface numbers have lagged far behind his underlying numbers

0:45:19.200 --> 0:45:20.799
<v Speaker 1>is not real surprising.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:23.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, if you go back to twenty twenty

0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:26.040
<v Speaker 2>one when Deptmer's actually entered the league because he had

0:45:26.040 --> 0:45:28.279
<v Speaker 2>his first cup of coffee there. I mean, you know,

0:45:28.360 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 2>in the last five years, the Angels ranked twenty ninth

0:45:32.040 --> 0:45:34.960
<v Speaker 2>in MLB in fielding run value. I think it's a

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:38.319
<v Speaker 2>negative one hundred and seventy six d Backs over that

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:41.239
<v Speaker 2>five year span, which includes their bad season of twenty one,

0:45:42.360 --> 0:45:45.560
<v Speaker 2>ranked ninth with ninety one FRV. And I think if

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.440
<v Speaker 2>you move out twenty one and go from twenty two forward,

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:52.279
<v Speaker 2>it's over one hundred and so you know, while he's

0:45:52.640 --> 0:45:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Deptmer's has a career four six five VRA, he's got

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:59.400
<v Speaker 2>a three to nine to one career FIP. You know,

0:45:59.560 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 2>he's got four point oh two career x FIP, he's

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:05.160
<v Speaker 2>got a four point oh three career x CR. So

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.960
<v Speaker 2>you know, more than half a run lower, well more

0:46:08.200 --> 0:46:10.759
<v Speaker 2>than half a run lower for his career, and this

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.279
<v Speaker 2>year it's about a full run. Yeah, you know, Jesse

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:16.960
<v Speaker 2>just said three point oh eight five three seven six

0:46:17.120 --> 0:46:20.719
<v Speaker 2>fIF three one eight x e r A and a

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:24.640
<v Speaker 2>three six two SIERRA. So you know, the composite average

0:46:24.719 --> 0:46:30.160
<v Speaker 2>of his of his UH estimators is almost a run

0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:34.439
<v Speaker 2>lower this year. So I mean to my I read

0:46:34.480 --> 0:46:37.920
<v Speaker 2>Deppmer's is a sub four e RA guy legitimately this

0:46:38.080 --> 0:46:41.279
<v Speaker 2>year and for his career who's played in front of

0:46:41.320 --> 0:46:45.000
<v Speaker 2>a really bad offense and probably also never really had

0:46:45.080 --> 0:46:47.799
<v Speaker 2>very good bullpens behind him for the most part. So

0:46:48.000 --> 0:46:52.600
<v Speaker 2>probably a very high percentage of bequeathed runners allowed to score.

0:46:52.680 --> 0:46:54.959
<v Speaker 2>I didn't look that up, but I guarantee your fate

0:46:55.080 --> 0:46:56.879
<v Speaker 2>took a moment here to go do it. I'm sure

0:46:56.880 --> 0:46:59.960
<v Speaker 2>i'd see pretty high number of you know, the inherited

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:04.160
<v Speaker 2>runners scored by the relievers coming in after redemers, probably

0:47:04.200 --> 0:47:05.440
<v Speaker 2>higher than league average.

0:47:06.480 --> 0:47:08.879
<v Speaker 1>I think that is safe to say. The Angels are

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:12.319
<v Speaker 1>just bad at pretty much everything, right, So probably a

0:47:12.320 --> 0:47:17.800
<v Speaker 1>safe assumption there. Another storyline here, certainly is the Angels

0:47:17.840 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 1>have had some changes in their organization recently. John Moseylock

0:47:22.000 --> 0:47:26.359
<v Speaker 1>is now running the show as the main baseball ops guy.

0:47:27.000 --> 0:47:31.319
<v Speaker 1>Perimnesian is no longer no longer in that role. Of course,

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.799
<v Speaker 1>Arty Moreno remains the owner in Anaheim, and so there

0:47:35.800 --> 0:47:39.799
<v Speaker 1>are still very valid questions about whether the Angels are

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:42.960
<v Speaker 1>going to actually tear down. Is Arty Moreno going to

0:47:43.040 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>give the go ahead for mozay Loock to make a

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:50.080
<v Speaker 1>trade like this, I'm not sure that's a given. You

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:55.000
<v Speaker 1>could argue Jose Soriano, another promising young pitcher in that organization,

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:58.480
<v Speaker 1>on that team, they probably should do something similar with

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:02.440
<v Speaker 1>him at least be curious about taking those offers, And

0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm just not sure they will. It just hasn't really

0:48:05.000 --> 0:48:08.640
<v Speaker 1>been Ardy Moreno's m O in the past. But yeah,

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 1>he's an intriguing pitcher. He doesn't make that much money.

0:48:12.080 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 1>You've got the team control, You've got a pitch arsenal

0:48:15.480 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 1>that looks stellar across the board, fastball, slider, change up,

0:48:20.000 --> 0:48:24.840
<v Speaker 1>curveball throws, the occasional sinker, the sliders really the elite outpitch.

0:48:25.239 --> 0:48:27.920
<v Speaker 1>But he has a whiff rate over thirty percent on

0:48:28.040 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 1>all three of those secondaries, the slider, change up in curveball.

0:48:31.840 --> 0:48:35.000
<v Speaker 1>This is something I've looked at recently, Jack, like, how

0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:39.920
<v Speaker 1>many which Dbacks pitchers have an outpitch have a secondary

0:48:39.960 --> 0:48:43.200
<v Speaker 1>pitch that has a whiff rate over thirty percent. That's

0:48:43.280 --> 0:48:45.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of the benchmark where you feel like a pitch

0:48:45.640 --> 0:48:47.440
<v Speaker 1>is really capable of getting swing and.

0:48:47.400 --> 0:48:49.320
<v Speaker 3>Miss, and you'd be surprised.

0:48:49.480 --> 0:48:52.120
<v Speaker 1>It is pretty hard to find a secondary pitch on

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>this major league roster, at least among the starters that

0:48:55.960 --> 0:48:57.839
<v Speaker 1>is getting that kind of swing and miss and read

0:48:57.880 --> 0:49:00.840
<v Speaker 1>debt Verse has three of them. He is kind of

0:49:00.840 --> 0:49:04.600
<v Speaker 1>in a different category when it comes to missing bats

0:49:05.160 --> 0:49:07.840
<v Speaker 1>compared with the rest of this starting rotation.

0:49:08.080 --> 0:49:10.359
<v Speaker 3>So it would be pretty.

0:49:10.080 --> 0:49:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Cool jack something something that would really be a fun,

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:15.919
<v Speaker 1>blockbuster type move.

0:49:16.520 --> 0:49:19.200
<v Speaker 3>Is it actually going to happen? Probably not.

0:49:20.560 --> 0:49:24.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And look whether or not the Diamondbacks are even

0:49:24.160 --> 0:49:26.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be willing to go down this path. I

0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:31.080
<v Speaker 2>think that the exercise here in looking at this picture

0:49:32.560 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 2>and thinking about, like what it would take to get

0:49:34.840 --> 0:49:37.279
<v Speaker 2>them to me that was the most interesting thing about

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<v Speaker 2>all of this, Like what would the dvacs have to

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<v Speaker 2>give up? Who knows what the Angels would like? I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you got to We don't know. We're not the Angel Scouts,

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<v Speaker 2>So I haven't talked to the Angel Scouts and they

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<v Speaker 2>haven't told me like, yo, yeah, this guy in your system,

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<v Speaker 2>we really liked it, And they're never going to do that,

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<v Speaker 2>so you know, you don't know what they're going to

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<v Speaker 2>ask for. But that's really the most important thing as

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<v Speaker 2>we enter the these types of talks and considerations running

0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 2>up to the deadline is don't overestimate your the value

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<v Speaker 2>of the prospects that you have, because yeah, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it just usually takes more to get a really good

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<v Speaker 2>player than you would.

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<v Speaker 1>Think they might ask for wald Schmidt and Crossantes and

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<v Speaker 1>Hageman and Bratt, and then Mike Hasen probably hangs up

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<v Speaker 1>the phone and that's that, and that that is a

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<v Speaker 1>very very positible outcome, so fun fun to think about. Nonetheless,

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<v Speaker 1>before we get out of here, we did want to

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<v Speaker 1>circle back to the Diamondbacks All Stars. They have two

0:50:41.480 --> 0:50:43.839
<v Speaker 1>of them that were officially named part of the NL

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.840
<v Speaker 1>All Star roster. We already talked about e Rod and

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<v Speaker 1>him being named an All Star, his first All Star

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<v Speaker 1>selection in his eleventh season, and you know you maybe wonder, like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, e Rod got his All Star selection, is

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<v Speaker 1>he gonna go back on the mound and solidify himself

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<v Speaker 1>as that guy? And even though the game didn't end

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<v Speaker 1>well for the d Backs today, he was still really good.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, six plus innings, two runs. You take that

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<v Speaker 1>from him any day. And he Rod has been everything

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:19.920
<v Speaker 1>you could ask for and more for the Diamondbacks this season.

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<v Speaker 2>Very worthy All Star, There's no question about it. I mean, look,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a jam packed National League group of starting pitchers.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's good that they only did I think

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<v Speaker 2>the minimum three relief pitchers, so that allowed them to

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<v Speaker 2>take mostly starting pitchers, and that's good. You know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>going to pitch Friday, right, Yeah, so he'll definitely be

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<v Speaker 2>in good shape to you know, go ahead and pitch

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<v Speaker 2>a pitch an inning on Tuesday. Probably means he won't

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<v Speaker 2>be pitching, you know, the first game out of the break,

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<v Speaker 2>but he could probably pitch the second, so he could

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<v Speaker 2>probably know if he pitches it on Tuesday, he can

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<v Speaker 2>go ahead and pitch on Saturday, no problem. So I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know who's going to get that first start coming

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<v Speaker 2>out of the All Star break. But you know, congratulations

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<v Speaker 2>to year out, very worthy, very deserving, and of course

0:52:12.360 --> 0:52:14.960
<v Speaker 2>Corvin Carroll. I mean, you know, yes, he's slumping. He's

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<v Speaker 2>had a very rough June. You wonder why he can't,

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:23.759
<v Speaker 2>you know, stop swinging and pitches above the zone, let

0:52:23.760 --> 0:52:26.399
<v Speaker 2>alone missing them all the time. But that's only been

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<v Speaker 2>for the last month. In fact, for the year, he's

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<v Speaker 2>again very very worthy All Star. He still leads a

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:36.280
<v Speaker 2>team in ops, leads the league in the world in triples.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, he's become a I think, a really solid

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<v Speaker 2>leader in that clubhouse. Not vocal but by example, but

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<v Speaker 2>just day by day, step by step. You can see

0:52:48.960 --> 0:52:52.360
<v Speaker 2>him accepting that mantle of leadership, even though it's not

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<v Speaker 2>something that comes naturally to him. So you know, he's

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<v Speaker 2>a good guy. He works his butt off whatever struggles

0:52:58.880 --> 0:53:01.320
<v Speaker 2>he's had over the last few week weeks. Let's not

0:53:01.400 --> 0:53:04.200
<v Speaker 2>be myopic. I mean, this guy's a worthy All Star

0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>and the Dbacks are very, very lucky to have him.

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<v Speaker 1>For Corbin, it was his third All Star selection in

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:15.000
<v Speaker 1>the past four years. Pretty impressive stuff at just twenty

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:19.120
<v Speaker 1>five years old. The Diamondbacks have two representatives in that

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:23.480
<v Speaker 1>All Star Game next Tuesday and before then. Between now

0:53:23.480 --> 0:53:26.560
<v Speaker 1>and then, they have seven more games to play, all

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<v Speaker 1>very important as we wind down toward the end of

0:53:30.160 --> 0:53:32.359
<v Speaker 1>the first half of the season. D Backs in San

0:53:32.440 --> 0:53:36.000
<v Speaker 1>Diego for four as we discussed, and they finish against

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<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers three games out at Dodger Stadium heading into

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<v Speaker 1>the break. Well, that is all that we have on

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<v Speaker 1>this edition of Snake's Territory. Thank you all for being

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.479
<v Speaker 1>here with us. We really appreciate it. You can find

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.240
<v Speaker 1>us on social media. I am at jesse En Friedman

0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:53.880
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. Jack is at Shu Wizard fifty nine. You

0:53:53.920 --> 0:53:57.399
<v Speaker 1>can find our show at Snake's Territory. Jack's written work

0:53:57.800 --> 0:54:00.400
<v Speaker 1>you can find all of that over at Air Arizona

0:54:00.480 --> 0:54:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Diamondbacks on SI and Jack getting final thoughts as we

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<v Speaker 1>head into another week.

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was going to San Diego.

0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.799
<v Speaker 1>Well, I am already here, which is nice. The Bacs

0:54:14.840 --> 0:54:17.359
<v Speaker 1>will be right here in my backyard for the next

0:54:17.440 --> 0:54:19.480
<v Speaker 1>few days. Should be able to get out to to

0:54:19.560 --> 0:54:21.560
<v Speaker 1>at least at least one of those games. Should be

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<v Speaker 1>should be a good time. Our next show will be

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<v Speaker 1>on Wednesday night, will be live after that Wednesday game

0:54:27.680 --> 0:54:30.319
<v Speaker 1>in San Diego, so be sure to join us then.

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<v Speaker 1>And once again we say thank you so much for

0:54:33.400 --> 0:54:36.160
<v Speaker 1>being here on this episode. We really appreciate it, and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be back once again on Wednesday night with another

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<v Speaker 1>edition of Snake's Territory.