Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to the first episode of season
Speaker 1: four of Let's Be Real. That is Crazy. I am
Speaker 1: so excited to share my conversation with singer songwriter Ash,
Speaker 1: but before I do, I don't think I've truly had
Speaker 1: the opportunity to share and express my gratitude to you
Speaker 1: guys for listening and just being interested in this podcast.
Speaker 1: Season four is absolutely my favorite, and there are so
Speaker 1: many full circle moments that I cannot wait to share
Speaker 1: with you. But for now, let's kick it off with
Speaker 1: my new favorite artists Ash. Hello, everybody, and welcome to
Speaker 1: this week's episode of the Let's Be Real podcast. This
Speaker 1: week is so exciting because I get to talk with
Speaker 1: one of my favorite musicians. Ash. Welcome. That's so nice.
Speaker 1: This is your first podcast. Yeah, this is so exciting. Wow.
Speaker 1: I also I already said this earlier, but wow, I
Speaker 1: love the way I sound. It's microphone with the headphone.
Speaker 1: It makes me want to talk really low. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: like you just want to like do a whole meditation.
Speaker 1: You could do like a narration. I was like, your
Speaker 1: is so soothing. It's soothing in person, but then when
Speaker 1: you're talking anyways, that's so funny you say that because
Speaker 1: I don't like the sound of my voice. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: even right now talking it's fine. It's just listening to
Speaker 1: it back, I'm like, oh, I like it a lot.
Speaker 1: It's thank you so much. Welcome. Just kick this off
Speaker 1: with compliments, you know what. I think that's the best
Speaker 1: way to start off any podcast. It was a little
Speaker 1: self love on my part two. I was like, I
Speaker 1: sound good, just to you know, shoot your own horn
Speaker 1: a little more. I've been listening to Ray NonStop. Can
Speaker 1: I tell you that I think the not only the
Speaker 1: lyrics and the storytelling, but the instrumentals and the music.
Speaker 1: It just hits different. Thank you, It truly does. And
Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you about it and
Speaker 1: what everything that's happening. The first thing I want to
Speaker 1: talk about is, I know you've talked about how you're
Speaker 1: making an album. It's kind of a snapshot of a
Speaker 1: moment in time in your life. Where were you in
Speaker 1: your life when this album was made. What's funny because
Speaker 1: it is the perfect snapshot of where I currently am.
Speaker 1: But when I was writing it, it was kind of
Speaker 1: like I was manifesting this current era. Weirdly love that
Speaker 1: it was a manifestation yeah, because I was still in
Speaker 1: a pretty like long term committed relationship at the time.
Speaker 1: I was still wearing my turtlenecks. Like when I was
Speaker 1: working on this album, I was kind of like wanting
Speaker 1: to be and like graduate into this new era, but
Speaker 1: I wasn't there yet, and I like, weirdly making the
Speaker 1: album kind of launched me into this place because like
Speaker 1: I can be the girl on another man's jeans, and
Speaker 1: then I broke up with my boyfriend and then I'm
Speaker 1: in somebody else's chains. How you are you should be?
Speaker 1: I was like, wait, but when I wrote that song,
Speaker 1: not in my wildest dreams did I think I'd be
Speaker 1: here now. Isn't that funny how life works like that.
Speaker 1: It's just I'm a warrior and sometimes something I'm realizing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of it all it works out, it kind
Speaker 1: of does. Oh yeah, if you're a warrior, I would
Speaker 1: say stop. I mean, hey, listen, I feel like we
Speaker 1: all have like in inordinate amount of anxiety, and especially
Speaker 1: your generation and like below us. It's just there's a
Speaker 1: lot going on. But I will say, you're gonna waste
Speaker 1: away your life worrying. Oh yeah, don't do it. I
Speaker 1: just gotta let it go, because things are going to
Speaker 1: be the way they are whether or not you like it. Like,
Speaker 1: do you know what this kind of reminds me of
Speaker 1: maybe a song called Emotional. Yeah, she did her homework,
Speaker 1: she listened to the whole thing, of course. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: do emotional honestly though, Like I love that song and
Speaker 1: it's the energy of it is like, let's just have
Speaker 1: a good time tonight. But also I am a firm
Speaker 1: believer that like, let yourself feel all the things, you know,
Speaker 1: let yourself go there. Sometimes. I think one of the
Speaker 1: things that I think that you know you can relate
Speaker 1: to is being a woman is really hard. And that's
Speaker 1: just a blanket, just a blanket statement, I know, and
Speaker 1: I've been realizing it more and more, especially going into
Speaker 1: school and just being on my own and just the
Speaker 1: pressures that come with it and how we're you know,
Speaker 1: it's almost like we're not meant to be like human
Speaker 1: beings in a way. We're kind of looked at and
Speaker 1: it's hard to it's it's it's just it's really hard sometimes.
Speaker 1: And I know you've talked about these themes and your
Speaker 1: songs and your music, and I was wondering where that
Speaker 1: stems from and if you've dealt with it personally as well.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yeah, I like what you just said.
Speaker 1: I feel like you kind of hit the nail on
Speaker 1: the head with like it's almost like we're not supposed
Speaker 1: to be human beings. Sometimes, like the expect some of
Speaker 1: the expectations on us are like just so out of
Speaker 1: this world, like be beautiful, but don't be too manufactured
Speaker 1: because that's fake. But if you're too natural, and then
Speaker 1: like work out and be fit, but like don't be
Speaker 1: too thin, don't be too thin. There's so many there's
Speaker 1: like all these double standards are like I just started
Speaker 1: seeing this guy and like all these things are coming
Speaker 1: up for me. Of like it's fine if like he like, okay,
Speaker 1: this is so dumb, but like parts in front of me,
Speaker 1: but I'm like I could never because I mean there's
Speaker 1: a whole there's a lot of other stuff around there.
Speaker 1: But like I'm even being just like anybody else. And
Speaker 1: I definitely I think we're we're programmed to be like
Speaker 1: you have to be perfect in every way, and when
Speaker 1: the standard of perfection changes, then you have to change
Speaker 1: with it. And you better you better know when it
Speaker 1: changes because sometimes it changes overnight and you miss it.
Speaker 1: But I totally relate to you. And I think that
Speaker 1: I surround myself with a lot of really good humans
Speaker 1: that see me as a human, like men and women
Speaker 1: alike in my life and and everyone in between, that
Speaker 1: I I have been really well protected. Now, like I
Speaker 1: got to a place in my life where I don't
Speaker 1: have anybody in my life who doesn't expect me to
Speaker 1: like be real, you know, yeah actually on words got him?
Speaker 1: But yeah, what's going on right now in school? How
Speaker 1: is that? How is that reflecting in school? Like what's
Speaker 1: coming up of like, you know, not feeling like you
Speaker 1: can be a human. It's very interesting because being in
Speaker 1: film school, I'm realizing already there is not only is
Speaker 1: like the film industry very male dominated, but I already
Speaker 1: had experience where I was directing a scene and a
Speaker 1: guy completely was like in my face trying to distract
Speaker 1: me and tell me I was doing it wrong? What?
Speaker 1: And I'm like that was freshman year already. I'm like,
Speaker 1: why can't It feels like sometimes the voice that we're
Speaker 1: given isn't enough or it's not taken seriously enough. So
Speaker 1: I think something that I'm really trying to do and
Speaker 1: established for myself is make my what I want clear
Speaker 1: and because frankly, no one else is going to do
Speaker 1: it unless I do it. Yeah, you're you have to
Speaker 1: care more than anyone else. Oh absolutely. Also I love this.
Speaker 1: My mom always told me that you teach people how
Speaker 1: to treat you, so like it puts the ownership back
Speaker 1: into your court of Like, yeah, people can kind of
Speaker 1: out the gate, maybe treat you poorly, but then you
Speaker 1: immediately either validate them and say that's okay, or you
Speaker 1: stand up for yourself and you're like, well that's not
Speaker 1: gonna fly. And you're constantly everything you do, from the
Speaker 1: moment you walk up to someone and hug them or
Speaker 1: shake their hand, you are teaching people constantly how to
Speaker 1: treat you. And so I feel like in that scenario,
Speaker 1: it's like this person is violating your personal space, your
Speaker 1: he's obviously being super disrespectful, and like, in that moment,
Speaker 1: that sucks, but you know, we learn from it and
Speaker 1: we grow from it. And because that's all you can
Speaker 1: do from it, I feel like sometimes you just have
Speaker 1: to be like I feel like no, no, and I
Speaker 1: feel like something you mentioned about being in this new era,
Speaker 1: I'm kind of in a new era myself kind of
Speaker 1: just like, Okay, we're twenty now, it's a new decade.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, we're just it's it's a new decade,
Speaker 1: and I'm very excited for what's to come and for
Speaker 1: everything that I'm gonna learn. How how have your twenties been?
Speaker 1: Giving any advice? God, yeah, I got some advice for you. Um,
Speaker 1: My twenties have been interesting. I've always felt like, even
Speaker 1: through a bit, I've been through a lot. My twenties
Speaker 1: were I got engaged, I got married, I got divorced,
Speaker 1: I said another relationship. I graduated college, moved to Nashville,
Speaker 1: moved to San Diego, and moved to l A. M hmm,
Speaker 1: moved around and bought a house, got that divorce. I
Speaker 1: had to sell that house, give half of my money
Speaker 1: to somebody else who did not deserve it, and then
Speaker 1: piping hot tea, um, um, divorce is messy. Oh yeah
Speaker 1: at such a young age, Yeah I was. I was
Speaker 1: twenty five, plenty of time to go through it all.
Speaker 1: You're gonna love it. Um. So that was interesting. And
Speaker 1: then I got into a very safe, lovely, kind relationship
Speaker 1: with someone who just became my best friend and then
Speaker 1: got to a point where I realized I was in
Speaker 1: a friendship, not not like a romantic relationship. It's a
Speaker 1: fine line, but the line it's very it's it's it.
Speaker 1: I needed it, like it was perfect for the time.
Speaker 1: It was right for as long as it was right,
Speaker 1: like it was. I also was in a really like
Speaker 1: emotionally abusive relationship in my marriage, and so like needing
Speaker 1: to be with someone who was really safe and kind,
Speaker 1: I think was exactly what I needed, and he taught
Speaker 1: me a lot of like, Okay, these are non negotiables
Speaker 1: moving forward in relationships. Here's what I know that I
Speaker 1: want um, and knowing what you don't want is also
Speaker 1: just important to oh my gosh, Yeah, relationships are great,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like they get a bad rap. It's
Speaker 1: all the breakup albums that give them the bad rap.
Speaker 1: It's all the breakup albums that's all everyone listens to,
Speaker 1: or the divorce records. Yeah, I mean, hey, it's just
Speaker 1: which is they're great songs, but like, yeah, there's just
Speaker 1: some lessons that you don't learn through other people, like
Speaker 1: you have to learn them on your own and like
Speaker 1: go through a relationship. But anyways, what was my advice
Speaker 1: to you in your twenties. Wait, um, what do you
Speaker 1: wish you knew going into this the decade? I do
Speaker 1: feel like a little bit on the emotional lane. I
Speaker 1: do feel like I took things far too seriously in
Speaker 1: my twenties. I take things way less serious. And my
Speaker 1: twenties are almost over. Like I I'm getting to that
Speaker 1: point where I'm like, I think people take life, just
Speaker 1: make things that aren't important way too important, and then
Speaker 1: they take over your life and then you're losing sleep
Speaker 1: over these things or over people who don't you don't
Speaker 1: even like. You're trying to get approval from people you
Speaker 1: don't even care about. Then they don't care about you either.
Speaker 1: It's for this abstract concept of approve. You want them
Speaker 1: to care about you. You want them to care. But also,
Speaker 1: like in your twenties, in your twenties, something that I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out is being content with myself and
Speaker 1: just needing myself. And I feel like that's like the
Speaker 1: journey that I'm currently on right now. That's amazing. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I went to the summer. I was the summer was
Speaker 1: all about self growth. I went to Europe by myself.
Speaker 1: I was just wanted to see if I could do it,
Speaker 1: So that's bold. Where'd you go in Europe? I went
Speaker 1: to Paris for a week by myself. It's my favorite city.
Speaker 1: It was so pretty. The thing was, I was so
Speaker 1: anxious the first couple days. I couldn't enjoy the food.
Speaker 1: Oh no, doesn't that suck? Like well, I mean, but
Speaker 1: we got to enjoy Paris. So after the first three
Speaker 1: days you chilled out. After my body was like, no,
Speaker 1: are you learning it? No, you were there. I was
Speaker 1: just going listening to music and Apple maps. That was
Speaker 1: how I got good. Okay, not talking to any French people, No,
Speaker 1: I did. Look, it was great for people watching. It
Speaker 1: was so good for people watching. How did you order food?
Speaker 1: You know? There was a they gave me English menus
Speaker 1: what in Paris? Yeah? Or and if it wasn't, I
Speaker 1: would just like like go on Google Translate and then
Speaker 1: see what it said. Oh like the scanny that's genius. Yeah,
Speaker 1: honoring technology. Man. I'm so proud of you. I don't
Speaker 1: know that I wouldn't know you well enough to be
Speaker 1: proud of you, but I do feel pride that you
Speaker 1: went on your own and it's been a week there.
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I feel like after living through a pandemic.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta get out of here. You just
Speaker 1: got to get out and explore the world at this point. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I love that this has been the summer of
Speaker 1: self growth for you. I think it is. I mean
Speaker 1: I don't know. That feels like the energy a lot
Speaker 1: around a lot of people. I know right now, what
Speaker 1: about you? Oh? I mean always I went on this
Speaker 1: like fifty four show headline tour. Incredible, that's certain, April
Speaker 1: and it just kicked my ass. It was amazing and
Speaker 1: I I only got to like connect with all these
Speaker 1: fans that like I've just been like we were dating,
Speaker 1: were dating each other on Tinder, like it's an online relationship.
Speaker 1: We got to have in person. Yeah, we finally got
Speaker 1: to like not fully like hug everyone because I'm on stage,
Speaker 1: but like just like connect in a real way. Why
Speaker 1: did I say that? Oh growth? Yeah. That tour completely
Speaker 1: changed my basically my entire existence, like the view I
Speaker 1: had of myself, like seeing myself through my fans eyes.
Speaker 1: In the beginning, I had a really hard time with it.
Speaker 1: I like went through a whole existential crisis in the
Speaker 1: first two weeks a tour because I was like, no
Speaker 1: one deserves to be loved like this, Like I remember
Speaker 1: kind I've gotten over it, and now I'm like love me,
Speaker 1: love me and more love me, or like let okay,
Speaker 1: well we'll get there. But I was like I'd walk
Speaker 1: out onto stage and like the intro, I have this
Speaker 1: crazy elaborate intro, and then I walk out in the
Speaker 1: music cuts and like it's like a wall of screaming
Speaker 1: hits me. And I had a really hard time adjusting
Speaker 1: to that. It was the first time I had ever
Speaker 1: experienced it. And while like your whole life, you like,
Speaker 1: I want to be successful, I want to be in
Speaker 1: a room where people are screaming my name, and then
Speaker 1: it actually happens, and then you're like, how do I process?
Speaker 1: No one should feel this way, like putting me on
Speaker 1: a pedestal, Like I'm I'm a human being, You're like,
Speaker 1: and then you're putting another category of not only on
Speaker 1: my woman that isn't supposed to be a human being,
Speaker 1: but I'm also an artist, which is a whole other
Speaker 1: there's a whole side, another bag of expectations, like and listen,
Speaker 1: this isn't a what was me? I love my life?
Speaker 1: And I got to a point where I got to like, oh, okay,
Speaker 1: but the beginning was really hard. It's a transition, just
Speaker 1: like anything, it's changed, yeah, and I was really feeling
Speaker 1: the growing pains of that. And then I realized the
Speaker 1: big realized nation was people are going to fall in
Speaker 1: love with the version of you they have in their head.
Speaker 1: So and even like our closest our parents are the
Speaker 1: person you fall in love with, it's they're falling in
Speaker 1: love with a version of you that they've created, and like,
Speaker 1: only you get to fully intimately know you. And so
Speaker 1: what I stopped doing was making all of my fans
Speaker 1: wrong for loving me, because I'm like you, I'm like
Speaker 1: when you know yourself deeply, like stop it, stop it.
Speaker 1: And then you get to a point where you like,
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm gonna just let them love whoever they've
Speaker 1: kind of made me out to be in their head,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to be her for them tonight. And
Speaker 1: suddenly I was able to like process everything so much
Speaker 1: better because everyone views you in their own way, and
Speaker 1: so it's it's it's is it a whole interesting concept,
Speaker 1: but it's so true too. Yeah, even like your friends
Speaker 1: are like if your friend met you prior to the
Speaker 1: summer of growth, you know, would be a different person.
Speaker 1: They might even be like now, they'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: why are you acting this way? And you'd be like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm evolving and I'm changing, and but they have a
Speaker 1: version of you and they love and so like. I
Speaker 1: find Actually that's why a lot of friendships, it's like
Speaker 1: the best test of those friendships. It's like if you
Speaker 1: can grow together instead of just stay stagnant or let
Speaker 1: you grow and continue to like, let their love evolve
Speaker 1: while you evolve. Just got deep. It's called let's be
Speaker 1: real real. We're so real. Guys, were so quirky, were
Speaker 1: so deep. Oh my god, we're so quirky quirky. I
Speaker 1: don't even try, my god, I would never Okay, we
Speaker 1: have to take a quick break. But when we come back,
Speaker 1: so much more to talk about, from how the media
Speaker 1: treats people in the spotlight, your new album raight, and
Speaker 1: how you bounce back if things don't go your way.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. One of the
Speaker 1: things that that's so interesting you bring up because one
Speaker 1: of the main themes I wanted to discuss my podcast
Speaker 1: is I feel like the media and society we put
Speaker 1: these people on a pedestal and then we forget their
Speaker 1: human beings, that that bleed that they're just human. And
Speaker 1: I feel like something that I'm really trying to do
Speaker 1: is let everyone know that, because sometimes when I see headlines,
Speaker 1: I'm like, you're not treating them like a human being.
Speaker 1: You're treating them like an object. And I feel like,
Speaker 1: also when you see these tabloids, especially with people like
Speaker 1: my age or stuff that are going through stuff, and
Speaker 1: it's then they're covering and I'm like, but they're just
Speaker 1: a teenager, And I feel like we should all be
Speaker 1: more accepting of that. Everyone's just going through their own
Speaker 1: thing and we should just all accept people as people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, wouldn't that be nice? Wouldn't that be so nice?
Speaker 1: That's an ideal where I think. I think part of
Speaker 1: it like you really have to take responsibility on your
Speaker 1: own end, because the world is not going to jump
Speaker 1: onto that bandwagon. Like I mean, hey, you're going to
Speaker 1: change like whoever is listening to this podcast, You're going
Speaker 1: to change their lives and you're gonna impact them in
Speaker 1: a you know, intimate and cool way. At some point
Speaker 1: I had to go, I'm going to stop being mad
Speaker 1: at the world all the time for doing what it
Speaker 1: always does and and not say like, hey, it's okay
Speaker 1: for you to treat me wrong or anything. Not say that.
Speaker 1: And you you do advocate for yourself, and you do
Speaker 1: stand up for you what you believe, and you do
Speaker 1: make a podcast that creates change and impact. But at
Speaker 1: some point I had to be like, I'm gonna stop
Speaker 1: being mad at the world for like telling me that
Speaker 1: getting older is ugly or that you can't be successful
Speaker 1: as you get older as a woman, and like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I hate that. Yeah I'm always going to hate that,
Speaker 1: but so a waste of my time and energy. You
Speaker 1: just gotta do what you gotta do to get by,
Speaker 1: and you just gotta not listen to it and do
Speaker 1: your own thing because that's all you can ever do
Speaker 1: and try to like you, definitely, I definitely grew thicker
Speaker 1: skin in my twenties, for sure. How do you not
Speaker 1: from everything you've been through though it makes you the
Speaker 1: person you are today? Are you grateful for all those
Speaker 1: experiences and the person you've become today or do you
Speaker 1: wish some of them didn't happen? Oh that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Well mm hmm, Yeah, I mean I really love myself.
Speaker 1: I really like who I am. I got there in
Speaker 1: my twenties. That was a good thing. I hope you
Speaker 1: are there or you get there. That's one of those
Speaker 1: things like when you look in the mirror and you're like,
Speaker 1: she's dope, you should like, what a waste of time
Speaker 1: to think anything else, because you're stuck with you forever.
Speaker 1: So wherever you go, there you are, you might as
Speaker 1: well like her, you know. Um, But I so I
Speaker 1: am this person that I like because of all the
Speaker 1: things that I went through, So no, I probably wouldn't
Speaker 1: have like asked for them. But like my brother died
Speaker 1: two years ago in the middle of the pandemics, Like
Speaker 1: there's so many other like so many things happen in
Speaker 1: my twenty I'm like, now, I'm You're like giving me
Speaker 1: a moment to have perspective over the last how many
Speaker 1: of years of my life And I'm like, wow, down,
Speaker 1: isn't that cool to see how far you've come and grown? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really Yeah, I appreciate you for giving me a
Speaker 1: moment out of my day to think you need to
Speaker 1: acknowledge it. Absolutely you do. Thanks. This is good for me,
Speaker 1: of course, because like we could we go through everything,
Speaker 1: and like, if we don't appreciate and learn from it,
Speaker 1: then the only way of failing is not getting back up.
Speaker 1: That's the only way you fail. Quote. I love that absolutely.
Speaker 1: The only way you're failing is if you don't get
Speaker 1: back up. It's not if you fall you just get
Speaker 1: back up. Oh no, because the fall is inevitable. No,
Speaker 1: the fault like it's gonna happen. You might as well
Speaker 1: embrace it, just like embrace the awkwardness. I've actually been
Speaker 1: trying to this. I've been trying to live by two
Speaker 1: things as a reason, which my friend told me, the
Speaker 1: one percent rule, which is to do something that makes
Speaker 1: yourself one percent better in one aspect of your life
Speaker 1: every day. So it could be something small like going
Speaker 1: to the gym or doing yoga or doing something that
Speaker 1: helps move a goal forward. And then just being comfortable
Speaker 1: with the uncomfortable. Ah so one thing. Yeah. The second
Speaker 1: is to do one thing that makes you a little
Speaker 1: bit uncomfortable. Okay, how's that been going? My goodness, it's
Speaker 1: been so stressful. Actually, it's been making me so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: But the universe, I've never been more. I've never live
Speaker 1: my life. I truly like I have just felt like
Speaker 1: my stomach turning in and out this week, but it's
Speaker 1: been so good because I feel like the universe has
Speaker 1: been rewarding it. Can you give me a couple of
Speaker 1: examples things that have made you uncomfortable? So I asked
Speaker 1: three different people out to coffee. Okay, you don't know,
Speaker 1: but it's at a coffee chop that's like has books
Speaker 1: and it's very chill. So it's like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I don't know these people. It's a good environment, so
Speaker 1: we're going to do that. Or I last minute, I
Speaker 1: like to go to bed early. My friends invited me
Speaker 1: to go hang out with some friends, and I would
Speaker 1: so like little things like that, we're saying hi to
Speaker 1: people that I wouldn't normally say hi do, or going
Speaker 1: up to someone and complimenting them, like little things. I
Speaker 1: also feel like the rule too kind of plays into
Speaker 1: Rule one. It's like, yeah, like you're making yourself one
Speaker 1: percent better by like saying hi to someone you wouldn't
Speaker 1: normally say hi to and being like gracious too. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I love this. I'm going to do this person because
Speaker 1: when my friend told me that, I was like, we
Speaker 1: can all do something one person to make us one
Speaker 1: person better. That's just like even if I do nothing
Speaker 1: all day, I can send an email that would or
Speaker 1: draw something or do anything. I feel like it's like
Speaker 1: one percent moving forward, moving forward in growth because I
Speaker 1: feel like there is a big out of a stigma.
Speaker 1: If like, if it's one percent better, then it's just
Speaker 1: growing innately like saying maybe something's broken or something's wrong
Speaker 1: with you, because I feel like we do have to
Speaker 1: get out of the wrongness of ourselves, because we're constantly
Speaker 1: like this about me is wrong, this about me is wrong.
Speaker 1: I were so hard on ourselves. But I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I like the one percent, but I'd say maybe like
Speaker 1: one percent growing ya, moving forward or something because you're
Speaker 1: not broken, you don't need to make you're you're not sick,
Speaker 1: you don't need to get better because you're perfect as
Speaker 1: you are and wonderful. You know, I appreciate that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I've also been living my life in three months chunks,
Speaker 1: so because I realized how much I change at the
Speaker 1: end of like three months, like I'm like a different person.
Speaker 1: Well seasons seasons. So I just planned my life in
Speaker 1: three months and it helps so much. It makes things
Speaker 1: less overwhelming, like a five year plan person. Because if
Speaker 1: if the pandemic taught me anything is I can't control
Speaker 1: a fucking thing. So I do it in three months. Yeah,
Speaker 1: three feels much more realized, fels much more manageable. It's
Speaker 1: a length of a semester. I'm just like, Okay, my
Speaker 1: mind is a semester. I like that. Do you do
Speaker 1: like chickens? Like before the three months start, do you
Speaker 1: like journal? Here's where I'm at. And then at the end.
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get into journaling. It's the thing is,
Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts. I have so many thoughts.
Speaker 1: By the time I have to write it all down,
Speaker 1: my hand is so exhausted. I'm so smart, I have
Speaker 1: so many words in my brain. I just can't stop writing.
Speaker 1: Like it's just NonStop at the point. I know, but
Speaker 1: I do video diaries sometimes. Oh that's cool, and it's
Speaker 1: fun to look back on, like a year later, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, that poor girl. Look at her, that
Speaker 1: poor thing, look at her. She done so much. She
Speaker 1: didn't know. She didn't fall apart. The imagine you at
Speaker 1: nine watching your twenty year old self, and I'm sure
Speaker 1: you feel like grown. And I know I'm only at
Speaker 1: the start. I know. I'm only at the start of
Speaker 1: it too, girl, I'm only at the start. We're all
Speaker 1: years ahead of you. We're j Loo said something about that.
Speaker 1: She she was like, I feel like my life is
Speaker 1: just beginning. And she's like fifty. She did just get
Speaker 1: married again, I know, and she looks better than both
Speaker 1: of us. Oh, she's so cool. She's the coolest. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh. Anyways, I don't know how we got to,
Speaker 1: j Loo, but I don't know, but we got there,
Speaker 1: and that's what's important to mention. That's what's important to
Speaker 1: mention what we got there. But we got there, and
Speaker 1: that was the whole point of the day. That was
Speaker 1: the whole point of the day. Um. Something that I
Speaker 1: really want to talk to you about is breakups because
Speaker 1: I feel like I we have some viewers that are
Speaker 1: going through it, and I think we need to talk
Speaker 1: to them because I've got some messages some people and
Speaker 1: some friends, and I know a lot of people that
Speaker 1: listen to your music that you've really helped through their breakups.
Speaker 1: And I was wondering what your biggest piece of advice
Speaker 1: is in moving forward and not looking back. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: it's a hefty one. I know, well, was someone who
Speaker 1: recently went through a break up. M how recent like
Speaker 1: four months ago. I'm sorry, that sucks. It's good. I'm
Speaker 1: in love, Okay, cool, great, Yeah, yeah that was easy.
Speaker 1: Um well that's another thing. You know what you want
Speaker 1: as you get older, you just started just like I
Speaker 1: know exactly what I want, what I don't want. Anyways,
Speaker 1: that's not the point of this next thing. Um, advice
Speaker 1: going through a break up, how to move forward? I
Speaker 1: think that it's it's so relative to what the relationship was.
Speaker 1: So for instance, my marriage was very toxic, very hurtful,
Speaker 1: and unhealthy. So for me, a really good way of
Speaker 1: moving forward was it actually helped me to remind myself,
Speaker 1: like as I was leaving, I had to really give
Speaker 1: my person, my self permission to leave, like I was
Speaker 1: really stuck. It was also we were in like a
Speaker 1: cycle of abuse and there was a lot else going
Speaker 1: on there, but like I needed to give myself permission
Speaker 1: to Like I would literally write down all the reasons
Speaker 1: like after I left, like of why he was not
Speaker 1: good for me and how I was mistreated, not to
Speaker 1: focus on the negative, but to get myself out of
Speaker 1: the romanticizing so sad. Yeah, oh that was so paint
Speaker 1: like oh no, like, yeah, you start going like I
Speaker 1: was validating the girl, like hack, yeah you left because
Speaker 1: X y Z and you just wrote down all the
Speaker 1: X about all the YU. Yeah, well yeah that was necessary.
Speaker 1: But like, for instance, in this last relationship, there was
Speaker 1: nothing wrong, And I think that's why there doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be though too. It just could just doesn't always work.
Speaker 1: It just wasn't right anymore. And we weren't meant to
Speaker 1: be each other's romantic partners. It just wasn't how it
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. And but moving on from that,
Speaker 1: it was such a big What I found helpful was
Speaker 1: like I did the opposite, Like I honored that relationship
Speaker 1: by like remembering really sweet times and being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful, Like I'm so grateful that I had
Speaker 1: this person in my life in that way for as
Speaker 1: long as I did. And instead of sitting in the
Speaker 1: wrongness of the situation to break up how much it sucks,
Speaker 1: you thank yourself for all the reasons why you know
Speaker 1: you were in it for as long as you were.
Speaker 1: I mean, those are again, I say that because they're
Speaker 1: so different. Sides are so many different situations and aspects
Speaker 1: like I would have to ask them what they're sort
Speaker 1: of break up in tails and like are you friends
Speaker 1: with this person still? Did they break up with you?
Speaker 1: Did you get cheated on? Did you cheat on them?
Speaker 1: Like there's so many there's not a blanket answer to
Speaker 1: like how do you move? Are so complicated? Yeah, because
Speaker 1: there are people. It's people. Everyone's complicated. If we try
Speaker 1: to simplify people to as not bad, then it's just
Speaker 1: like I have the answer, here's what you do. I
Speaker 1: will say. In both those situations I talked about, I
Speaker 1: was writing, So journaling it really does help you. I
Speaker 1: need to get into it. It's just committing myself to it.
Speaker 1: Just like helping you process your own life. Something about
Speaker 1: writing it down I get more clarity. That's so interesting
Speaker 1: because I got into it last year for like a month,
Speaker 1: and then my anxiety got really bad and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this any Did you find
Speaker 1: that you got more anxious because you were writing? No?
Speaker 1: I felt better after I was. For some reason, I
Speaker 1: just stopped. I know, twenties for getting back into journaling,
Speaker 1: twenties for journalingaling. Yeah, I can't recommend enough, even if
Speaker 1: you're just getting up in the morning having your coffee
Speaker 1: or whatever. You you don't Arnold Palmer, right, I have
Speaker 1: at okay? Good? I was like, even if it's just
Speaker 1: like a couple of sentences, just something or like a paragraph,
Speaker 1: just like literally starting your day with like here's where
Speaker 1: I'm at, or like who am I today? Sometimes I'll
Speaker 1: start with that question who am I today? Who am
Speaker 1: I today? I love that because I while all versions
Speaker 1: and different facets are me, different days call for different
Speaker 1: parts of me. Do you do different outfits to show
Speaker 1: your different styles? That's what I do? Yeah, So who
Speaker 1: are you today? Oh? Um, I'm hot? Yeah, I am confident,
Speaker 1: I am chatty. Hell yeah, I feel like opinionated. And
Speaker 1: there's a boy in town, so I'm like feeling sexy
Speaker 1: love yeah, but like so thriving. For instance, for days ago,
Speaker 1: my mom was in town and I was in my
Speaker 1: pajamas all day with her and we were watching movies,
Speaker 1: and that girl was just like, who am I today?
Speaker 1: If I ask a question who am I today? I
Speaker 1: would say, I'm RESTful, I'm like appreciating the present with
Speaker 1: my mom. I'm meditative, I'm chill. Do you meditate? No,
Speaker 1: I've been doing it, and I don't have the patience.
Speaker 1: But I've been doing like five ten minutes meditations on
Speaker 1: my two like in the morning, and i do it
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes because I'm already half asleep, so
Speaker 1: it's like I'm already in that zone. Kind of think
Speaker 1: it's helping so much. Really, I noticed a big difference
Speaker 1: in my day. I can send you the YouTube link
Speaker 1: I use. It's for confidence and for manifestation. Okay, I
Speaker 1: will watch your meditative YouTube if you commit to start
Speaker 1: journaling again. Okay, I can actually do that. Do you
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to place where I can do that?
Speaker 1: You do it? So it's kind of like when you're
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna like start working out more, and then
Speaker 1: the first thing you do is like buy a cute
Speaker 1: workout I never I didn't just do that. I didn't
Speaker 1: just buy a second workout top. I would never o'n't
Speaker 1: take one yoga class and bought a workout top. Why
Speaker 1: would I? It's part of inspiring yourself to keep going.
Speaker 1: But like buying a cute new journal maybe at the
Speaker 1: cute bookstore that you go and have. Do you have journals?
Speaker 1: I bet you'll want a journal when you get your
Speaker 1: fancy new like cute journal and you're like, oh that
Speaker 1: you can't wait to read this in thirty years. Okay,
Speaker 1: have you read your journals or are you waiting for
Speaker 1: a certain time like I'm when I'm fifty or sixty
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back? Or do you just go through? Honestly,
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to burn them all? Why because
Speaker 1: I am so ratchet and too honest and I don't
Speaker 1: want my kids to know. You have to know, and
Speaker 1: I need to know, like I would write things down
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want someone to find. End, Yeah, say
Speaker 1: out like I get to be. I let myself be
Speaker 1: as real as possible and kind of as ratchet as possible,
Speaker 1: and so like I let out some anger, I let
Speaker 1: out selfishness, I let out jealousy, and it's not cute,
Speaker 1: like sometimes that girl in the page isn't cute. I
Speaker 1: think that's what my issue is with journaling is that
Speaker 1: I tried so hard to like pick my words so
Speaker 1: carefully and be like this was my day and today
Speaker 1: in this But I think I just need to go
Speaker 1: be honest and just right. I would say, have you
Speaker 1: ever read the artist way? I have not, but it
Speaker 1: sounds cool. Okay. The Artist Way is a book that
Speaker 1: changed my life. And there's this thing that it's called
Speaker 1: The Morning Pages. Writing it down, Write it down, Julia something, Cameron. Yes,
Speaker 1: I have two copies. I should have brought one. Um.
Speaker 1: I talked about this book so much. But the Morning
Speaker 1: Pages is like a practice that you do, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of to like unlocked, like de clog your vision
Speaker 1: and artistic inspiration and creativity. So no burnout, so less burnout.
Speaker 1: I have to be honest. Show tour and sharing music
Speaker 1: videos and getting ready to go to New York Fashion
Speaker 1: Week and then going to put out an album soon.
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot going on, and I am so
Speaker 1: well rested. How are you mentally, I'm fantastic. That's amazing.
Speaker 1: I've never been happier. Yeah, thanks, that's awesome. I feel
Speaker 1: like also I also know when enough is enough tour,
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot do another show for a
Speaker 1: little while, and that needed like I needed to set
Speaker 1: my own boundaries. And now I get this good nice break,
Speaker 1: put out the album, and then I go to Australia
Speaker 1: and I play like four more shows before the end
Speaker 1: of the year. Are you performing anywhere else that I
Speaker 1: can see you at. I mean next year, next year,
Speaker 1: I said that. Next year, Um, where else am I playing?
Speaker 1: And then I do a festival in Mexico. I'll be
Speaker 1: fun to this year in November. Yeah, I've never been,
Speaker 1: so that'll be cool. It sounds like two is just
Speaker 1: your year. And so when you do look back, you're like, actually,
Speaker 1: that was pretty rocking. I was pretty bad. We did
Speaker 1: Seth Myers. Yes, yes, which, oh my god, yeah, I um,
Speaker 1: I have really Yeah. I think I've just made my
Speaker 1: peace with my life. It's not like I don't get tired.
Speaker 1: I let myself get tired and then I rest, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I sleep, yeah, and then I I only do what's
Speaker 1: fun for me to like good. I just choose what's fun.
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you chose this podcast. I know this
Speaker 1: is so fun. We have to take a more quick break,
Speaker 1: but when we come back, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: your new album Ray, your favorite collaboration, and much more.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. I think something
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very excited for for this new era for
Speaker 1: everyone to listen to Ray. Is it the variety on there.
Speaker 1: Every song feels different and That's what I love about it.
Speaker 1: It has like some different vibes to it, and this
Speaker 1: new era it's all about being sexy, being a badass,
Speaker 1: loving yourself. What else is this era for for you?
Speaker 1: And this album? What does it represent for you? Freedom?
Speaker 1: I think freedom from like not even from other people,
Speaker 1: but just like from my own sense of like who
Speaker 1: I thought I was supposed to be, I was supposed
Speaker 1: to look, how I was supposed to sound like it.
Speaker 1: It's definitely take off like a filter for this new era.
Speaker 1: It feels very like I'm kind of bearing it all
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I mean literally, I'm like
Speaker 1: fully naked at the end of a music video. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm covered in the right spots, but like just
Speaker 1: a little making just a little covered enough, but like
Speaker 1: really and authentically bearing it all in a way that
Speaker 1: I've never let myself go there before. And it's been
Speaker 1: so liberating, and I think, I guess my hope is
Speaker 1: that other people will feel liberated as well by listening
Speaker 1: to it. Well, I've been feeling really liberated when I've
Speaker 1: been overthinking it. I've been listening to it and it's
Speaker 1: been very helpful. I've been going on my mental health
Speaker 1: walks and I listen to another man's jeans and I'm like, hell, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just fun. It's fun. It's fun music. There's definitely
Speaker 1: a couple like Introspective count on Me I Love and
Speaker 1: Love You Need are two songs that when I heard,
Speaker 1: I was just like, I think Love You Need is
Speaker 1: my favorite. That's one of my favorite too, because it's
Speaker 1: like it's so true. If you haven't listened to it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's so true. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: just like a really sweet, beautiful song, like so wholesome,
Speaker 1: and like the piano part is so inspired by Carol
Speaker 1: King like that it just makes me immediately feel like comforted.
Speaker 1: Can I tell you that my mom said that you
Speaker 1: reminded her of Carol King and a mix of Carol
Speaker 1: King and Sheryl Crow and Sheryl Crow like she said
Speaker 1: a mix, And I was like, okay, that's a really
Speaker 1: good I agree with the Carol King. I have tellten
Speaker 1: Ryl Crow to see you, but I agree with Carol King,
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Sheryl Crow. All I wanna do is
Speaker 1: have some fun. You realize how a Caryl Crow? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, No, You're not the only that's such
Speaker 1: a good song. Any collaborations that you want to do
Speaker 1: or that are happening, there's one. There's one collaboration on
Speaker 1: this album, and I I can't I can't even wrap
Speaker 1: my head around it yet, because this person has been
Speaker 1: my idol. Literally, this person I wish I could just
Speaker 1: play the voicemail I have. Uh. This person is Diane Keaton. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I like she. I've watched every film she's ever made.
Speaker 1: Her personality has informed my personality, Like I she made me.
Speaker 1: She made me I am meeting I am objectively who
Speaker 1: I am because of her, like I love that I
Speaker 1: am because of my mom and because of a lot
Speaker 1: of things. Right now about Diane Keaton, Um, I just
Speaker 1: think she's one of the most wonderful people in the world.
Speaker 1: And I have the honor of meeting her in the studio.
Speaker 1: She came to like our grounds. She was on my
Speaker 1: turf when I met her. That like meeting Diane Keaton,
Speaker 1: You're I felt like a superhero. I was like, you are,
Speaker 1: and I'm also a human beings a superhero and he
Speaker 1: does it all. Um. It was really like empowering because
Speaker 1: she was recording vocals on a song that I had
Speaker 1: written and I'm like there vocal producing her, telling her
Speaker 1: what like helping her through yeah, like you know, sitting
Speaker 1: with the line here, or like let's just repeat that. Well,
Speaker 1: let's just sing this in the room together until we
Speaker 1: get really comfortable, and like it just was such like
Speaker 1: I couldn't what a strange way to meet your hero,
Speaker 1: to like be coaching them. What was that moment? Like
Speaker 1: was it just surreal or did not hit you till afterwards?
Speaker 1: I tried to be very present because I didn't want
Speaker 1: that to happen I didn't want to like black out
Speaker 1: for the experience and then like be like what happened?
Speaker 1: So I was pretty present for it And did you
Speaker 1: just go over it all the time ever since it happened? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I still like I it's just one of those things
Speaker 1: that I think, like again, maybe acknowledging some manifestation, like
Speaker 1: I my whole life have looked up to her and
Speaker 1: to be in a room with her, not just meeting
Speaker 1: her at like an award show or yeah, like oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm your biggest fan, like literally having her
Speaker 1: in my space and her singing words I wrote, how
Speaker 1: did you like I'm living a miracle. It's like I'm
Speaker 1: if I die tomorrow, I'm good. Yeah, you're just like
Speaker 1: you're like you're chilling. I'm good. Yeah, I'm so happy.
Speaker 1: So I think, Yeah, moments when life gets hard or tiring,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, shut up. You're like Diane Keaton, if
Speaker 1: you complain one more time, I whar to god ash
Speaker 1: like you have. Yeah, Diane Keaton literally is singing your song.
Speaker 1: So just literally, have anyone say that to you if
Speaker 1: you ever feeling that, just dying keating those words, and
Speaker 1: you'll be like, yeah, you're right. You'll be like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're so right. She's my iPhone background. She really Yeah.
Speaker 1: My lock screen is the boy I'm saying, Oh, I
Speaker 1: mean with I'm with him, it's not just a him um.
Speaker 1: And then my home screen is me and Diane Keaton.
Speaker 1: It should be. Then I'm like, my life is amazing.
Speaker 1: Are there any other manifestations you want to put out
Speaker 1: there right now? Because like you did for the album WHOA,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, it's dangerous. Careful what you ask for,
Speaker 1: because in my experience, I get the things I want. Well,
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm scared. I'm scared. Why are you scared?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll go first, I manifest have Linman
Speaker 1: when Rando my podcast, his dad came on my podcast,
Speaker 1: Anthony Ramos came on, We're so close, yet so far
Speaker 1: has to happen. That's around the corners um and then
Speaker 1: being content within myself and if anything else that's added.
Speaker 1: I love that your turn. That's I was just thinking
Speaker 1: about me going careful what you manifest. I literally, for
Speaker 1: like two months in December of last year, I really
Speaker 1: wanted Chase Stokes to do a music video with me,
Speaker 1: and I would literally journal every day like I'm so
Speaker 1: grateful that Chase Stokes is the co lead in my
Speaker 1: next music video, so grateful that I get to work
Speaker 1: with him. And we just signed the contract. Like I
Speaker 1: literally am like just saying like it's already happening, and
Speaker 1: because he's not, we're not doing a music video together,
Speaker 1: but we're friends now, and bend him this clip maybe yeah.
Speaker 1: I literally he was like he hit me about the
Speaker 1: song that I originally imagine him being in the US.
Speaker 1: I hope you're not happy, Oh okay, And I was
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to like do this whole like
Speaker 1: love or montage thing with Chase Stokes I just feel
Speaker 1: like it would be so hot. Would you ever direct
Speaker 1: a music video? Heck, yeah, I could see it. That
Speaker 1: would be amazing. I just don't I honestly, I love
Speaker 1: the director I work with, and it takes a lot
Speaker 1: of the pressure. What I don't want to do is
Speaker 1: direct a music video to say that I directed. You
Speaker 1: want to do it because it's your vision. You want
Speaker 1: to execute it? Yeah, you want it because I have
Speaker 1: to do it, not to say not to be like
Speaker 1: and I directed it, and then you don't come about
Speaker 1: the title. Don't die on the freaking that cross. I
Speaker 1: don't care. So, and what I love about my amazing
Speaker 1: director is he like he takes off so much pressure
Speaker 1: of me. So it is my vision and I am
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of the directing, but someone just helping
Speaker 1: you ask execute it. Yeah, that's fine. I don't know.
Speaker 1: That was random. Um, I would like to One day
Speaker 1: we're with Harry Styles, I can say I'm going to
Speaker 1: Harry Wean, which I'm so excited for us. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited to
Speaker 1: know how or when or in what. Literally, maybe it's
Speaker 1: not even a song, Maybe it's just like we write
Speaker 1: a book together, maybe we do a podcast together with
Speaker 1: Harry Styles. Yeah, like it doesn't have to be I
Speaker 1: feel like oftentimes the universe will be like, okay, it's
Speaker 1: like me, my whole manifesting Diane Keaton. I just wanted
Speaker 1: to meet her, and then the universe was like, how
Speaker 1: about she sing on one of your songs? And then
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so much better. So I'll let
Speaker 1: the universe decide how Harry and I will hang out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that kind of happened to me. Actually, it's kind of
Speaker 1: how the podcast happened. I didn't expect to get anything.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to well, I originally wanted to really
Speaker 1: interview Julian Michaels because of her song Anxiety really helped me.
Speaker 1: And then I pitched it and they're like, yeah, you
Speaker 1: get a pilot. Have you interviewed her? She was the pilot.
Speaker 1: She was the and then because of her we got
Speaker 1: renewed and now we're launching our fourth season. So you
Speaker 1: know know, but well, you manifest. I didn't even think
Speaker 1: it would I'd get an episode and here we are
Speaker 1: over forty two episodes later. What was that like for
Speaker 1: you when you got to interviewer about the song that
Speaker 1: helped change your life. It was really helpful because it
Speaker 1: was because of that song I got to get out
Speaker 1: of my own head um and that's what created the podcast.
Speaker 1: So I owe so much to her and which was
Speaker 1: a lovely moment. So like, I bet she really I
Speaker 1: bet that really touched her. Julia Michaels. Yeah, you guys
Speaker 1: should work together. Oh that collaboration, Oh my goodness. You know.
Speaker 1: But the only thing with me and her is we
Speaker 1: do the same thing in the room. So I'm imagining like,
Speaker 1: but that's why I feel like it would just be
Speaker 1: like that on steroids, like even better, or we're fighting
Speaker 1: each other the whole time. I don't think it would.
Speaker 1: I think I think you have very similar vibes. Really
Speaker 1: absolutely good. Like I've not I've ran into her in
Speaker 1: passing once, but we've not hung out. You may not
Speaker 1: be manifesting it, but I'm manifesting it for you. Okay,
Speaker 1: next album, it will just be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: featuring Julia Michaels. It'll be like, oh my god, that
Speaker 1: would be cute. Right, I'll let you manifest that for
Speaker 1: me to the future, to us into ray and your
Speaker 1: twenties and the next chapter for you. Fine, yeah, well
Speaker 1: everyone go listen to Ray. Ash. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for taking the time to talk and chat and get
Speaker 1: real and just being yourself because it's so wonderful. Thank you,
Speaker 1: It's been such an honor. I've had a really good time.
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Thank you for coming. Amazing, so fun.
Speaker 1: I just want to thank Ash again for coming on
Speaker 1: my podcast and taking the time. Make sure you check
Speaker 1: out her new album Ray. It is absolutely phenomenal, highly recommend. Anyways,
Speaker 1: I will see you guys next week with a new episode.
Speaker 1: Oh feels good to say that again. Bye guys. M hm.