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Speaker 1: Hey everyone, and welcome to the first episode of season

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Speaker 1: four of Let's Be Real. That is Crazy. I am

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Speaker 1: so excited to share my conversation with singer songwriter Ash,

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Speaker 1: but before I do, I don't think I've truly had

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Speaker 1: the opportunity to share and express my gratitude to you

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Speaker 1: guys for listening and just being interested in this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Season four is absolutely my favorite, and there are so

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Speaker 1: many full circle moments that I cannot wait to share

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Speaker 1: with you. But for now, let's kick it off with

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Speaker 1: my new favorite artists Ash. Hello, everybody, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: this week's episode of the Let's Be Real podcast. This

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Speaker 1: week is so exciting because I get to talk with

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite musicians. Ash. Welcome. That's so nice.

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Speaker 1: This is your first podcast. Yeah, this is so exciting. Wow.

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Speaker 1: I also I already said this earlier, but wow, I

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Speaker 1: love the way I sound. It's microphone with the headphone.

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Speaker 1: It makes me want to talk really low. Oh, it's

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Speaker 1: like you just want to like do a whole meditation.

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Speaker 1: You could do like a narration. I was like, your

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Speaker 1: is so soothing. It's soothing in person, but then when

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Speaker 1: you're talking anyways, that's so funny you say that because

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Speaker 1: I don't like the sound of my voice. Really yeah,

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Speaker 1: even right now talking it's fine. It's just listening to

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Speaker 1: it back, I'm like, oh, I like it a lot.

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Speaker 1: It's thank you so much. Welcome. Just kick this off

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Speaker 1: with compliments, you know what. I think that's the best

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Speaker 1: way to start off any podcast. It was a little

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Speaker 1: a little more. I've been listening to Ray NonStop. Can

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Speaker 1: I tell you that I think the not only the

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Speaker 1: It just hits different. Thank you, It truly does. And

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Speaker 1: I'm so excited to talk to you about it and

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Speaker 1: what everything that's happening. The first thing I want to

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Speaker 1: talk about is, I know you've talked about how you're

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Speaker 1: making an album. It's kind of a snapshot of a

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Speaker 1: moment in time in your life. Where were you in

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Speaker 1: it is the perfect snapshot of where I currently am.

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Speaker 1: But when I was writing it, it was kind of

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Speaker 1: like I was manifesting this current era. Weirdly love that

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Speaker 1: it was a manifestation yeah, because I was still in

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Speaker 1: working on this album, I was kind of like wanting

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Speaker 1: then I broke up with my boyfriend and then I'm

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Speaker 1: in somebody else's chains. How you are you should be?

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Speaker 1: I was like, wait, but when I wrote that song,

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Speaker 1: here now. Isn't that funny how life works like that.

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Speaker 1: It's just I'm a warrior and sometimes something I'm realizing.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it all it works out, it kind

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Speaker 1: of does. Oh yeah, if you're a warrior, I would

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Speaker 1: maybe a song called Emotional. Yeah, she did her homework,

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Speaker 1: I've been realizing it more and more, especially going into

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Speaker 1: like all these double standards are like I just started

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Speaker 1: But like I'm even being just like anybody else. And

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Speaker 1: I definitely I think we're we're programmed to be like

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Speaker 1: But I totally relate to you. And I think that

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Speaker 1: I surround myself with a lot of really good humans

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Speaker 1: like be real, you know, yeah actually on words got him?

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Speaker 1: journey that I'm currently on right now. That's amazing. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If like, if it's one percent better, then it's just

428
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: growing innately like saying maybe something's broken or something's wrong

429
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: with you, because I feel like we do have to

430
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: get out of the wrongness of ourselves, because we're constantly

431
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 1: like this about me is wrong, this about me is wrong.

432
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 1: I were so hard on ourselves. But I'm like, yeah,

433
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,919
Speaker 1: I like the one percent, but I'd say maybe like

434
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 1: one percent growing ya, moving forward or something because you're

435
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: not broken, you don't need to make you're you're not sick,

436
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 1: you don't need to get better because you're perfect as

437
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: you are and wonderful. You know, I appreciate that. Yeah.

438
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,960
Speaker 1: I've also been living my life in three months chunks,

439
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: so because I realized how much I change at the

440
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Speaker 1: end of like three months, like I'm like a different person.

441
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,800
Speaker 1: Well seasons seasons. So I just planned my life in

442
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: three months and it helps so much. It makes things

443
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 1: less overwhelming, like a five year plan person. Because if

444
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,240
Speaker 1: if the pandemic taught me anything is I can't control

445
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: a fucking thing. So I do it in three months. Yeah,

446
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: three feels much more realized, fels much more manageable. It's

447
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: a length of a semester. I'm just like, Okay, my

448
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: mind is a semester. I like that. Do you do

449
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: like chickens? Like before the three months start, do you

450
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,960
Speaker 1: like journal? Here's where I'm at. And then at the end.

451
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:17,159
Speaker 1: I've been trying to get into journaling. It's the thing is,

452
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts. I have so many thoughts.

453
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,560
Speaker 1: By the time I have to write it all down,

454
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 1: my hand is so exhausted. I'm so smart, I have

455
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 1: so many words in my brain. I just can't stop writing.

456
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,080
Speaker 1: Like it's just NonStop at the point. I know, but

457
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,880
Speaker 1: I do video diaries sometimes. Oh that's cool, and it's

458
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:38,199
Speaker 1: fun to look back on, like a year later, like,

459
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,480
Speaker 1: oh my god, that poor girl. Look at her, that

460
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,679
Speaker 1: poor thing, look at her. She done so much. She

461
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 1: didn't know. She didn't fall apart. The imagine you at

462
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: nine watching your twenty year old self, and I'm sure

463
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: you feel like grown. And I know I'm only at

464
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Speaker 1: the start. I know. I'm only at the start of

465
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 1: it too, girl, I'm only at the start. We're all

466
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 1: years ahead of you. We're j Loo said something about that.

467
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 1: She she was like, I feel like my life is

468
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 1: just beginning. And she's like fifty. She did just get

469
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: married again, I know, and she looks better than both

470
00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:17,280
Speaker 1: of us. Oh, she's so cool. She's the coolest. Oh

471
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Speaker 1: my gosh. Anyways, I don't know how we got to,

472
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: j Loo, but I don't know, but we got there,

473
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: and that's what's important to mention. That's what's important to

474
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: mention what we got there. But we got there, and

475
00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,119
Speaker 1: that was the whole point of the day. That was

476
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: the whole point of the day. Um. Something that I

477
00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:33,640
Speaker 1: really want to talk to you about is breakups because

478
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,920
Speaker 1: I feel like I we have some viewers that are

479
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:41,400
Speaker 1: going through it, and I think we need to talk

480
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,760
Speaker 1: to them because I've got some messages some people and

481
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: some friends, and I know a lot of people that

482
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 1: listen to your music that you've really helped through their breakups.

483
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: And I was wondering what your biggest piece of advice

484
00:26:56,200 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: is in moving forward and not looking back. Oh my gosh,

485
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 1: it's a hefty one. I know, well, was someone who

486
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 1: recently went through a break up. M how recent like

487
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: four months ago. I'm sorry, that sucks. It's good. I'm

488
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: in love, Okay, cool, great, Yeah, yeah that was easy.

489
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: Um well that's another thing. You know what you want

490
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: as you get older, you just started just like I

491
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: know exactly what I want, what I don't want. Anyways,

492
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: that's not the point of this next thing. Um, advice

493
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,719
Speaker 1: going through a break up, how to move forward? I

494
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: think that it's it's so relative to what the relationship was.

495
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: So for instance, my marriage was very toxic, very hurtful,

496
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: and unhealthy. So for me, a really good way of

497
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: moving forward was it actually helped me to remind myself,

498
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,640
Speaker 1: like as I was leaving, I had to really give

499
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Speaker 1: my person, my self permission to leave, like I was

500
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: really stuck. It was also we were in like a

501
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: cycle of abuse and there was a lot else going

502
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: on there, but like I needed to give myself permission

503
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: to Like I would literally write down all the reasons

504
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: like after I left, like of why he was not

505
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,760
Speaker 1: good for me and how I was mistreated, not to

506
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 1: focus on the negative, but to get myself out of

507
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: the romanticizing so sad. Yeah, oh that was so paint

508
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:32,479
Speaker 1: like oh no, like, yeah, you start going like I

509
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 1: was validating the girl, like hack, yeah you left because

510
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: X y Z and you just wrote down all the

511
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: X about all the YU. Yeah, well yeah that was necessary.

512
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: But like, for instance, in this last relationship, there was

513
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: nothing wrong, And I think that's why there doesn't have

514
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 1: to be though too. It just could just doesn't always work.

515
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 1: It just wasn't right anymore. And we weren't meant to

516
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,200
Speaker 1: be each other's romantic partners. It just wasn't how it

517
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: was supposed to be. And but moving on from that,

518
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 1: it was such a big What I found helpful was

519
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: like I did the opposite, Like I honored that relationship

520
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 1: by like remembering really sweet times and being like, oh,

521
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,880
Speaker 1: I'm so grateful, Like I'm so grateful that I had

522
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: this person in my life in that way for as

523
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: long as I did. And instead of sitting in the

524
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: wrongness of the situation to break up how much it sucks,

525
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: you thank yourself for all the reasons why you know

526
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: you were in it for as long as you were.

527
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 1: I mean, those are again, I say that because they're

528
00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: so different. Sides are so many different situations and aspects

529
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 1: like I would have to ask them what they're sort

530
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 1: of break up in tails and like are you friends

531
00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: with this person still? Did they break up with you?

532
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: Did you get cheated on? Did you cheat on them?

533
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: Like there's so many there's not a blanket answer to

534
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: like how do you move? Are so complicated? Yeah, because

535
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 1: there are people. It's people. Everyone's complicated. If we try

536
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: to simplify people to as not bad, then it's just

537
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: like I have the answer, here's what you do. I

538
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: will say. In both those situations I talked about, I

539
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: was writing, So journaling it really does help you. I

540
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: need to get into it. It's just committing myself to it.

541
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: Just like helping you process your own life. Something about

542
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: writing it down I get more clarity. That's so interesting

543
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: because I got into it last year for like a month,

544
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 1: and then my anxiety got really bad and I was like, no,

545
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 1: I'm not going to do this any Did you find

546
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 1: that you got more anxious because you were writing? No?

547
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: I felt better after I was. For some reason, I

548
00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: just stopped. I know, twenties for getting back into journaling,

549
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: twenties for journalingaling. Yeah, I can't recommend enough, even if

550
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: you're just getting up in the morning having your coffee

551
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: or whatever. You you don't Arnold Palmer, right, I have

552
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: at okay? Good? I was like, even if it's just

553
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: like a couple of sentences, just something or like a paragraph,

554
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: just like literally starting your day with like here's where

555
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm at, or like who am I today? Sometimes I'll

556
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,200
Speaker 1: start with that question who am I today? Who am

557
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 1: I today? I love that because I while all versions

558
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: and different facets are me, different days call for different

559
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: parts of me. Do you do different outfits to show

560
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: your different styles? That's what I do? Yeah, So who

561
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: are you today? Oh? Um, I'm hot? Yeah, I am confident,

562
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: I am chatty. Hell yeah, I feel like opinionated. And

563
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 1: there's a boy in town, so I'm like feeling sexy

564
00:31:54,400 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: love yeah, but like so thriving. For instance, for days ago,

565
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: my mom was in town and I was in my

566
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: pajamas all day with her and we were watching movies,

567
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: and that girl was just like, who am I today?

568
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: If I ask a question who am I today? I

569
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: would say, I'm RESTful, I'm like appreciating the present with

570
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: my mom. I'm meditative, I'm chill. Do you meditate? No,

571
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: I've been doing it, and I don't have the patience.

572
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 1: But I've been doing like five ten minutes meditations on

573
00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: my two like in the morning, and i do it

574
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: for like ten minutes because I'm already half asleep, so

575
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: it's like I'm already in that zone. Kind of think

576
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: it's helping so much. Really, I noticed a big difference

577
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: in my day. I can send you the YouTube link

578
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I use. It's for confidence and for manifestation. Okay, I

579
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 1: will watch your meditative YouTube if you commit to start

580
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: journaling again. Okay, I can actually do that. Do you

581
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: feel like I'm going to place where I can do that?

582
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 1: You do it? So it's kind of like when you're

583
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,440
Speaker 1: like I'm gonna like start working out more, and then

584
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: the first thing you do is like buy a cute

585
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 1: workout I never I didn't just do that. I didn't

586
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 1: just buy a second workout top. I would never o'n't

587
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: take one yoga class and bought a workout top. Why

588
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: would I? It's part of inspiring yourself to keep going.

589
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 1: But like buying a cute new journal maybe at the

590
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: cute bookstore that you go and have. Do you have journals?

591
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I bet you'll want a journal when you get your

592
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: fancy new like cute journal and you're like, oh that

593
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 1: you can't wait to read this in thirty years. Okay,

594
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: have you read your journals or are you waiting for

595
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: a certain time like I'm when I'm fifty or sixty

596
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look back? Or do you just go through? Honestly,

597
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: I think I'm going to burn them all? Why because

598
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: I am so ratchet and too honest and I don't

599
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 1: want my kids to know. You have to know, and

600
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: I need to know, like I would write things down

601
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: that I wouldn't want someone to find. End, Yeah, say

602
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: out like I get to be. I let myself be

603
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: as real as possible and kind of as ratchet as possible,

604
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: and so like I let out some anger, I let

605
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: out selfishness, I let out jealousy, and it's not cute,

606
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 1: like sometimes that girl in the page isn't cute. I

607
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: think that's what my issue is with journaling is that

608
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: I tried so hard to like pick my words so

609
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: carefully and be like this was my day and today

610
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:27,920
Speaker 1: in this But I think I just need to go

611
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 1: be honest and just right. I would say, have you

612
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: ever read the artist way? I have not, but it

613
00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:37,279
Speaker 1: sounds cool. Okay. The Artist Way is a book that

614
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: changed my life. And there's this thing that it's called

615
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: The Morning Pages. Writing it down, Write it down, Julia something, Cameron. Yes,

616
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: I have two copies. I should have brought one. Um.

617
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: I talked about this book so much. But the Morning

618
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:58,920
Speaker 1: Pages is like a practice that you do, and it's

619
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: kind of to like unlocked, like de clog your vision

620
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 1: and artistic inspiration and creativity. So no burnout, so less burnout.

621
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:14,479
Speaker 1: I have to be honest. Show tour and sharing music

622
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: videos and getting ready to go to New York Fashion

623
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: Week and then going to put out an album soon.

624
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 1: Like there's a lot going on, and I am so

625
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 1: well rested. How are you mentally, I'm fantastic. That's amazing.

626
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: I've never been happier. Yeah, thanks, that's awesome. I feel

627
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: like also I also know when enough is enough tour,

628
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: I was like, I cannot do another show for a

629
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 1: little while, and that needed like I needed to set

630
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:48,760
Speaker 1: my own boundaries. And now I get this good nice break,

631
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: put out the album, and then I go to Australia

632
00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: and I play like four more shows before the end

633
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: of the year. Are you performing anywhere else that I

634
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: can see you at. I mean next year, next year,

635
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: I said that. Next year, Um, where else am I playing?

636
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 1: And then I do a festival in Mexico. I'll be

637
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,359
Speaker 1: fun to this year in November. Yeah, I've never been,

638
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: so that'll be cool. It sounds like two is just

639
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: your year. And so when you do look back, you're like, actually,

640
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: that was pretty rocking. I was pretty bad. We did

641
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 1: Seth Myers. Yes, yes, which, oh my god, yeah, I um,

642
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: I have really Yeah. I think I've just made my

643
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: peace with my life. It's not like I don't get tired.

644
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 1: I let myself get tired and then I rest, Yeah,

645
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: I sleep, yeah, and then I I only do what's

646
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 1: fun for me to like good. I just choose what's fun.

647
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you chose this podcast. I know this

648
00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: is so fun. We have to take a more quick break,

649
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: but when we come back, I want to talk about

650
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 1: your new album Ray, your favorite collaboration, and much more.

651
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back. I think something

652
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: I'm I'm very excited for for this new era for

653
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,959
Speaker 1: everyone to listen to Ray. Is it the variety on there.

654
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Every song feels different and That's what I love about it.

655
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 1: It has like some different vibes to it, and this

656
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: new era it's all about being sexy, being a badass,

657
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: loving yourself. What else is this era for for you?

658
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:41,280
Speaker 1: And this album? What does it represent for you? Freedom?

659
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: I think freedom from like not even from other people,

660
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 1: but just like from my own sense of like who

661
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: I thought I was supposed to be, I was supposed

662
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: to look, how I was supposed to sound like it.

663
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: It's definitely take off like a filter for this new era.

664
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 1: It feels very like I'm kind of bearing it all

665
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. I mean literally, I'm like

666
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: fully naked at the end of a music video. I

667
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: mean I'm covered in the right spots, but like just

668
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: a little making just a little covered enough, but like

669
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: really and authentically bearing it all in a way that

670
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 1: I've never let myself go there before. And it's been

671
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,560
Speaker 1: so liberating, and I think, I guess my hope is

672
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 1: that other people will feel liberated as well by listening

673
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: to it. Well, I've been feeling really liberated when I've

674
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 1: been overthinking it. I've been listening to it and it's

675
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: been very helpful. I've been going on my mental health

676
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: walks and I listen to another man's jeans and I'm like, hell, yeah,

677
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: it's just fun. It's fun. It's fun music. There's definitely

678
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: a couple like Introspective count on Me I Love and

679
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,919
Speaker 1: Love You Need are two songs that when I heard,

680
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 1: I was just like, I think Love You Need is

681
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:00,839
Speaker 1: my favorite. That's one of my favorite too, because it's

682
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 1: like it's so true. If you haven't listened to it,

683
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it's so true. Yeah, it's

684
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: just like a really sweet, beautiful song, like so wholesome,

685
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,720
Speaker 1: and like the piano part is so inspired by Carol

686
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 1: King like that it just makes me immediately feel like comforted.

687
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: Can I tell you that my mom said that you

688
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: reminded her of Carol King and a mix of Carol

689
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: King and Sheryl Crow and Sheryl Crow like she said

690
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: a mix, And I was like, okay, that's a really

691
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,720
Speaker 1: good I agree with the Carol King. I have tellten

692
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: Ryl Crow to see you, but I agree with Carol King,

693
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Sheryl Crow. All I wanna do is

694
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: have some fun. You realize how a Caryl Crow? Yeah,

695
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: oh my goodness, No, You're not the only that's such

696
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: a good song. Any collaborations that you want to do

697
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 1: or that are happening, there's one. There's one collaboration on

698
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 1: this album, and I I can't I can't even wrap

699
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: my head around it yet, because this person has been

700
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: my idol. Literally, this person I wish I could just

701
00:40:14,719 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 1: play the voicemail I have. Uh. This person is Diane Keaton. Yeah,

702
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: and I like she. I've watched every film she's ever made.

703
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Her personality has informed my personality, Like I she made me.

704
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: She made me I am meeting I am objectively who

705
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 1: I am because of her, like I love that I

706
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: am because of my mom and because of a lot

707
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: of things. Right now about Diane Keaton, Um, I just

708
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: think she's one of the most wonderful people in the world.

709
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: And I have the honor of meeting her in the studio.

710
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: She came to like our grounds. She was on my

711
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,879
Speaker 1: turf when I met her. That like meeting Diane Keaton,

712
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: You're I felt like a superhero. I was like, you are,

713
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: and I'm also a human beings a superhero and he

714
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: does it all. Um. It was really like empowering because

715
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 1: she was recording vocals on a song that I had

716
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:27,759
Speaker 1: written and I'm like there vocal producing her, telling her

717
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:32,160
Speaker 1: what like helping her through yeah, like you know, sitting

718
00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: with the line here, or like let's just repeat that. Well,

719
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: let's just sing this in the room together until we

720
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: get really comfortable, and like it just was such like

721
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 1: I couldn't what a strange way to meet your hero,

722
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: to like be coaching them. What was that moment? Like

723
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,360
Speaker 1: was it just surreal or did not hit you till afterwards?

724
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: I tried to be very present because I didn't want

725
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 1: that to happen I didn't want to like black out

726
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,480
Speaker 1: for the experience and then like be like what happened?

727
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: So I was pretty present for it And did you

728
00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: just go over it all the time ever since it happened? Yeah,

729
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: I still like I it's just one of those things

730
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:18,359
Speaker 1: that I think, like again, maybe acknowledging some manifestation, like

731
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: I my whole life have looked up to her and

732
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: to be in a room with her, not just meeting

733
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 1: her at like an award show or yeah, like oh

734
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: my gosh, I'm your biggest fan, like literally having her

735
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 1: in my space and her singing words I wrote, how

736
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: did you like I'm living a miracle. It's like I'm

737
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 1: if I die tomorrow, I'm good. Yeah, you're just like

738
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: you're like you're chilling. I'm good. Yeah, I'm so happy.

739
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: So I think, Yeah, moments when life gets hard or tiring,

740
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like, shut up. You're like Diane Keaton, if

741
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: you complain one more time, I whar to god ash

742
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:04,479
Speaker 1: like you have. Yeah, Diane Keaton literally is singing your song.

743
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: So just literally, have anyone say that to you if

744
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,239
Speaker 1: you ever feeling that, just dying keating those words, and

745
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: you'll be like, yeah, you're right. You'll be like, oh,

746
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,080
Speaker 1: you're so right. She's my iPhone background. She really Yeah.

747
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 1: My lock screen is the boy I'm saying, Oh, I

748
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 1: mean with I'm with him, it's not just a him um.

749
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 1: And then my home screen is me and Diane Keaton.

750
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 1: It should be. Then I'm like, my life is amazing.

751
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: Are there any other manifestations you want to put out

752
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,360
Speaker 1: there right now? Because like you did for the album WHOA,

753
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. Honestly, it's dangerous. Careful what you ask for,

754
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 1: because in my experience, I get the things I want. Well,

755
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: let's do it. I'm scared. I'm scared. Why are you scared?

756
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll go first, I manifest have Linman

757
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 1: when Rando my podcast, his dad came on my podcast,

758
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: Anthony Ramos came on, We're so close, yet so far

759
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: has to happen. That's around the corners um and then

760
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:11,680
Speaker 1: being content within myself and if anything else that's added.

761
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 1: I love that your turn. That's I was just thinking

762
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: about me going careful what you manifest. I literally, for

763
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: like two months in December of last year, I really

764
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: wanted Chase Stokes to do a music video with me,

765
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: and I would literally journal every day like I'm so

766
00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: grateful that Chase Stokes is the co lead in my

767
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:37,839
Speaker 1: next music video, so grateful that I get to work

768
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: with him. And we just signed the contract. Like I

769
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,919
Speaker 1: literally am like just saying like it's already happening, and

770
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 1: because he's not, we're not doing a music video together,

771
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: but we're friends now, and bend him this clip maybe yeah.

772
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: I literally he was like he hit me about the

773
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 1: song that I originally imagine him being in the US.

774
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: I hope you're not happy, Oh okay, And I was

775
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: like I really wanted to like do this whole like

776
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 1: love or montage thing with Chase Stokes I just feel

777
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:12,719
Speaker 1: like it would be so hot. Would you ever direct

778
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: a music video? Heck, yeah, I could see it. That

779
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: would be amazing. I just don't I honestly, I love

780
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: the director I work with, and it takes a lot

781
00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 1: of the pressure. What I don't want to do is

782
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: direct a music video to say that I directed. You

783
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: want to do it because it's your vision. You want

784
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: to execute it? Yeah, you want it because I have

785
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: to do it, not to say not to be like

786
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 1: and I directed it, and then you don't come about

787
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: the title. Don't die on the freaking that cross. I

788
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: don't care. So, and what I love about my amazing

789
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:46,440
Speaker 1: director is he like he takes off so much pressure

790
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: of me. So it is my vision and I am

791
00:45:50,640 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of the directing, but someone just helping

792
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: you ask execute it. Yeah, that's fine. I don't know.

793
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: That was random. Um, I would like to One day

794
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: we're with Harry Styles, I can say I'm going to

795
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: Harry Wean, which I'm so excited for us. Oh my gosh,

796
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: that's gonna be so much fun. I'm so excited to

797
00:46:09,719 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: know how or when or in what. Literally, maybe it's

798
00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:15,919
Speaker 1: not even a song, Maybe it's just like we write

799
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 1: a book together, maybe we do a podcast together with

800
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: Harry Styles. Yeah, like it doesn't have to be I

801
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: feel like oftentimes the universe will be like, okay, it's

802
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: like me, my whole manifesting Diane Keaton. I just wanted

803
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,160
Speaker 1: to meet her, and then the universe was like, how

804
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: about she sing on one of your songs? And then

805
00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 1: I was like, that's so much better. So I'll let

806
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: the universe decide how Harry and I will hang out. Yeah,

807
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: that kind of happened to me. Actually, it's kind of

808
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: how the podcast happened. I didn't expect to get anything.

809
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: I just wanted to well, I originally wanted to really

810
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:53,680
Speaker 1: interview Julian Michaels because of her song Anxiety really helped me.

811
00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 1: And then I pitched it and they're like, yeah, you

812
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,240
Speaker 1: get a pilot. Have you interviewed her? She was the pilot.

813
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: She was the and then because of her we got

814
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: renewed and now we're launching our fourth season. So you

815
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: know know, but well, you manifest. I didn't even think

816
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: it would I'd get an episode and here we are

817
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: over forty two episodes later. What was that like for

818
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: you when you got to interviewer about the song that

819
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,319
Speaker 1: helped change your life. It was really helpful because it

820
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: was because of that song I got to get out

821
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: of my own head um and that's what created the podcast.

822
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: So I owe so much to her and which was

823
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: a lovely moment. So like, I bet she really I

824
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: bet that really touched her. Julia Michaels. Yeah, you guys

825
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 1: should work together. Oh that collaboration, Oh my goodness. You know.

826
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: But the only thing with me and her is we

827
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: do the same thing in the room. So I'm imagining like,

828
00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:45,200
Speaker 1: but that's why I feel like it would just be

829
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: like that on steroids, like even better, or we're fighting

830
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: each other the whole time. I don't think it would.

831
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: I think I think you have very similar vibes. Really

832
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:58,799
Speaker 1: absolutely good. Like I've not I've ran into her in

833
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,000
Speaker 1: passing once, but we've not hung out. You may not

834
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: be manifesting it, but I'm manifesting it for you. Okay,

835
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:06,680
Speaker 1: next album, it will just be like, oh my god,

836
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: featuring Julia Michaels. It'll be like, oh my god, that

837
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: would be cute. Right, I'll let you manifest that for

838
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: me to the future, to us into ray and your

839
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 1: twenties and the next chapter for you. Fine, yeah, well

840
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:27,359
Speaker 1: everyone go listen to Ray. Ash. Thank you so much

841
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: for taking the time to talk and chat and get

842
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: real and just being yourself because it's so wonderful. Thank you,

843
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 1: It's been such an honor. I've had a really good time.

844
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:45,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me, Thank you for coming. Amazing, so fun.

845
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: I just want to thank Ash again for coming on

846
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: my podcast and taking the time. Make sure you check

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Speaker 1: out her new album Ray. It is absolutely phenomenal, highly recommend. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I will see you guys next week with a new episode.

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Speaker 1: Oh feels good to say that again. Bye guys. M hm.