1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Hey everybody, welcome to the Friday edition 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show. We've got 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: a lot to get to with you today, and it 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: is a Friday, so I definitely want to hear from 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: you throughout the show. Eight hundred two eight eight eight two. 7 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: Headline here from Daily Mail. Russia is now at war 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:27,880 Speaker 1: with NATO and the West. Putin has taken the conflict 9 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: in Ukraine to a different stage following Germany and the 10 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 1: US's decision to supply tanks. US decided that Germany decided, 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: we will discuss that with you. Plus we have Kim Strassel, 12 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: a brilliant columnist for the Wall Street Journal, be joining 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: us later on. Remember how they talked about banning gastos 14 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: for a day or two, and then the defense was, 15 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: why are the right wingers talking about banning gastos. That's crazy. 16 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: We're not going to let them get away with that. 17 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: There is in act, a campaign to make you think 18 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 1: your gas stove is dangerous and bad for the environment, 19 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 1: dangerous to you and bad for the environment, with some 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: very powerful interests involved, and they just realized it looked 21 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: it looked bad, and so they tried to walk back 22 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: from it. Also interesting the Bide administration proposing to change 23 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 1: the US Census, adding Middle Eastern and North African categories. 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 1: We could talk about identity, politics and the census and 25 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: all of these different categories coming up a little later 26 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: on today. Though. The news story that everybody is focused 27 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: in on, and there's unfortunately a tremendous amount of anxiety 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: and emotion and outrage that is growing, has to do 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: with the imminent release. We're not exactly sure when it 30 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: will be. It could actually happen during this program. Clay 31 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: and I are both scanning to see when the video 32 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: of the Tyree Nichols incident body camera footage from these 33 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: five police officers is released. Clay, neither you nor I 34 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: have seen it yet. There it's expected it could come 35 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:25,600 Speaker 1: out at any moment. Here is a quote from the 36 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: police chief in Memphis. We're going to see acts in 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: the body can that defy humanity. This was the Memphis's 38 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,600 Speaker 1: top cop warning about what the public response will likely 39 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: be this fatal traffic stop beating of Tyree Nichols. Five 40 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: officers involved. All officers involved were are black. Tyree Nichols 41 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: is black, and this was described by that top cop 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: as quote worse than Rodney King. And there is now 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 1: belief also that he was not even as this wouldn't 44 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: change obviously the gravity of the situation, but was not 45 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: even driving recklessly when he was pulled over in the 46 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: first place. The footage is going to be released today. 47 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 1: Clay Memphis and many other cities are bracing for riots. Yeah, 48 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: and let's play. I think we've got some audio here 49 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 1: from the Memphis Police chief actually saying what you just said, 50 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: which they can't substantiate the reason why this individual, Tyree 51 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: Nichols was pulled over. I believe that's cut one. I'm 52 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you about the stop itself. What 53 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: was said was that there was a witnessing of what 54 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: was considered reckless driving. We've looked at cameras, we've looked 55 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: at body warn cameras, and even if something occurred prior 56 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: to this stop, we've been unable to substantiate that. The 57 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,160 Speaker 1: information that we have right now, based on what we 58 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: could observe, is the stop itself in the first officer 59 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: exiting his vehicle, and you'll see that on the body 60 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: war camera, and at that time the officers were already 61 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 1: you know, aggressive and empa So that's the Memphis Police Chief, 62 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: I believe, giving you her review of the facts in 63 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: the data and the video. In this situation, we also 64 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:21,800 Speaker 1: should get the mom of this individual, Tyree Nichols, who 65 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: was murdered, get hit her audio because she was on 66 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: television this morning calling for peace and calm. Tyree Nichols, 67 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: twenty nine years old, had a four year old son. 68 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: And again, what I don't understand about this buck and 69 00:04:38,040 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I'm far from an expert on the release of highly 70 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: sensitive video, but my understanding is they are releasing this 71 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 1: right around six pm Memphis time. So I live in Nashville. 72 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,720 Speaker 1: That's just about time it's officially gotten fully dark in 73 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: in the state of Tennessee this time of year. And 74 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: it's on a Friday, when everybody in theory by and 75 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: large is back home after a long week. It doesn't 76 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: make sense to me why they would choose to release 77 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: this on a Friday evening headed into a weekend when people, 78 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: I mean think about it, like young kids, teenage kids, 79 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: boys in particular, who tend to cause a lot of trouble. 80 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, if you look at the data on who 81 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: creates incidents. It's we've talked about this before, sixteen to 82 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: twenty four year old males. They're not in school, they 83 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: don't have class to go to, their school bus doesn't 84 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: coming to pick them up. I don't know why you would, 85 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 1: and we were talking about this off air pocket I'm 86 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: curious how you would analyze this. It seems to me 87 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: a miscalculation to release something like this going into the weekend, 88 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: when there is massive amounts of free time at night, 89 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: when it's already more difficult for whoever is called in 90 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: to try to make things safer, no matter what the 91 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: situation is. Why would you not release this at like 92 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: seven in the morning on a Wednesday, Buck And maybe 93 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: it's just me miscalculating, but it seems as if whatever 94 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: protest would ensue would be far more likely to turn 95 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: into a riot when it's in the dark on the weekend. Yes, 96 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: I think that maybe there's a bit of a holdover 97 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: belief that bad news on a Friday is less likely 98 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: to get as much attention or perhaps allows people. You 99 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: think people often get you know, I know, the very 100 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: separate issue, but they'll do layoffs on a Friday the 101 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 1: idea of being people have the weekend to gather themselves 102 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: and collect, you know, traumatic news on a Friday in 103 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 1: this incident. In this instance, I think holding the holding 104 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:48,280 Speaker 1: the information and releasing it on a Friday is not 105 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: a wise decision. Now, perhaps there won't be that. This 106 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: has been the case in other high profile police violence 107 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: involved incidents where there was a preparation for a lot 108 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: of riots that didn't happen. So this could be just 109 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: like that. Hopefully it will be entirely peaceful, and I 110 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 1: have a theory on how that may be more likely 111 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: to be the case. Here is though, First the Memphis 112 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: DA Steve Mulroy, who is calling for police reform, and 113 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: he is saying, the whole world is watching play clip two. 114 00:07:24,360 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: We all want the same thing. We want justice for 115 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols. It's my hope that if there is any 116 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 1: silver lining to be drawn from this very dark clouds, 117 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: that perhaps this incident can open a broader conversation about 118 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 1: the need for police reform. The world is watching us, 119 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: and we need to show the world what lessons we 120 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: can learn from this tragedy. I mean, the world is 121 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 1: also watching Clay from the perspective of the response of 122 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: the community based on everything. I mean, the chief of 123 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: police wouldn't say this is gut wrenching an awful if 124 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: it was not obviously the case from the video. So 125 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: I think we can safely assume, not having seen it ourselves, 126 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: that this is going to be very, very difficult to 127 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: watch and have a tremendous amount of emotional and psychological 128 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: impact on people. I also, though, think it is very 129 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: likely that there will be a universal condemnation of the 130 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: police actions here, that there won't be some major political divide. 131 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,679 Speaker 1: This is not going to be an instance. I believe. Again, 132 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 1: we haven't seen the video and we're speaking to you 133 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: with the knowledge that it could come out at any moment. 134 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: But based on what we've been told, I would think 135 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: it's likely that the right, the left, you know, everybody 136 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: is going to say this is awful, police violence like 137 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: this is completely unacceptable. They should face the fullest possible charges. 138 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: And when that happens, why would there be riots? Right? 139 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I would be hopeful that if there's a 140 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: universal sense that this was an injustice and this was 141 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: egregio is that it would tamp down that would come 142 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 1: at a certain level. The destruction of neighborhoods and burning 143 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 1: a building protest absolutely marches, absolutely, but burning down the 144 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:18,640 Speaker 1: neighborhood grocery store or drug store, there's obviously no justification 145 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: for that. But also when there's not some political conflict 146 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: at the heart of this, I'm not sure that it 147 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: will have quite the same they'll be quite the same 148 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: response from the hard left. Well, not only that they've 149 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: already charged all five officers with murder, so I think 150 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: that is something that, presuming the evidence justifies that that 151 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: was smart to have done, I genuinely wonder, and we 152 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:46,080 Speaker 1: talked about this yesterday, how much the race of the 153 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: police officers involved is also going to change the anger 154 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: on some level, because you can't. I'm sure there'll be 155 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 1: an attempt to say this isn't a further example of 156 00:09:54,880 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: white supremacy or whatever else. But for this situation, in particular, 157 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: five black Memphis cops being charged with murder of a 158 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: twenty nine year old black man, I think it takes 159 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: away the argument, at least to me, that this is 160 00:10:12,160 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 1: predominantly a race based policing decision, and that this is 161 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: occurring because Tyree Nichols was black. In other words, it's 162 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 1: hard to believe that this occurred specifically because this individual 163 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: was black. And look, my concern one is for everybody 164 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: who's done absolutely nothing wrong. There are tons of Memphis 165 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: cops out there right now whose lives may well be 166 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: in danger tonight and today because of the release of 167 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: this video, who are busting their asses every day to 168 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: try to make the city of Memphis safe. And it's 169 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:45,719 Speaker 1: not just Memphis, Buck, tons of cops all over this 170 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: country who are in cities and are apprehensive and nervous. 171 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,400 Speaker 1: Probably this morning at their meetings they said, hey, guys, 172 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: there's going to be a viral video coming out this 173 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 1: evening six o'clock pm Central time in Memphis. It may 174 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: pack things from New York to Los Angeles in terms 175 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: of what happens in your cities tonight, Just be aware 176 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: all those people doing their jobs in danger. Buck. I 177 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 1: think they've already called out the National Guard to try 178 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 1: to prepare for this situation potentially, or the State Guard 179 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 1: or whatever you want to call it in Memphis. A 180 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of other people being called in, I imagine potentially 181 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:27,640 Speaker 1: for these reactions. And again, I just feel awful for 182 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 1: all of those people out there who were going to 183 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: put their lives in danger and if you got love, 184 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: we should open up phone lines. By the way, because 185 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: we've got the number one radio show in Memphis eight 186 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: hundred two eight two two eight eight two. I'm sure 187 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:41,920 Speaker 1: we have a massive listenership in Memphis that can give 188 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: us a sense for what on the ground it feels 189 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:46,679 Speaker 1: like there. But Buck, let me contextualize this too as 190 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: someone who lives up the road in Nashville. It's been 191 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: an awful year for Memphis, all time record highs for murders. 192 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: They had the Eliza Fletcher story which went viral in 193 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: I believe August or so, when a a mom who 194 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: was out for a jog was kidnapped by a felon 195 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: who shouldn't have been on the streets and murdered. That 196 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: was a gut wrenching blow to the city. Almost within 197 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks, if I remember correctly, right after that, Buck, 198 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: you had we talked about it on the show. Remember 199 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: that guy who was Facebook videoing himself driving all around 200 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: the city of Memphis killing people randomly. That was again 201 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 1: an awful, terrifying incident for many people in Memphis. I'm 202 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: just wondering if you are in Memphis right now eight 203 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: hundred two two two eight eight two what are you 204 00:12:34,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: seeing on the ground, and we'll play the mom calling 205 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: for calm. I believe we have that when we come back. 206 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:43,719 Speaker 1: But also I just am curious to hear from our 207 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: listeners there. As I said, we have the number one 208 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 1: show in Memphis. I'm curious what you guys are seeing 209 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: and what you are expecting as things continue to progress 210 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 1: unfortunately in that situation. So we'll continue to follow this 211 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: throughout the show. It is the biggest story that is 212 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:02,559 Speaker 1: out there right now. 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Pure 230 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: Talk is simply smarter wireless. From the front lines of 231 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Him and Truth, Clay Travis and Buck Sexton, Welcome back 232 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: to Clay and Buck. The video of the Paul Pelosi 233 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 1: attack is out. Clay and I have watched it over 234 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: many times now, just as as this news is breaking, 235 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: would also remind you that the Tyree Nichols bodycam footage 236 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: will be released later today, probably after the show today 237 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: is over. So if that changes, we'll bring you that 238 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: breaking news in our analysis of it. But for right now, 239 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: we do have the video of the Paul Pelosi attack. 240 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: I just would would preface this with it is obvious 241 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: from the attack, from the attack that it was, you know, 242 00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:45,720 Speaker 1: a vicious assault on Paul Pelosi by this clearly deranged person. 243 00:14:46,200 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: Paul Pelosi is an elderly man, and you know he 244 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: didn't deserve this. No one no elderly person, no person 245 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: would deserve what happened to him at all, and glad 246 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: to hear that he is making a solid recovery and 247 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 1: he's gonna be okay this By no, we're not. There's 248 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: no making light of the violence against Paul Pelosi here. 249 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: That's not what this is about. This is about getting 250 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: the facts of the case correctly. And we're all happy 251 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 1: that Paul Pelosi is fine. And it's it's it's it's 252 00:15:12,760 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: hard to watch. When you watch the video, you realize 253 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: this guy he's in his late seventies, right, Clay, I mean, 254 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: this is like, uh, you know, grandparents' age, and he's 255 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 1: he's attacked by this maniac. With all of that said, 256 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: and I think that needed to be said, I got 257 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: some questions. I have some questions. First of all, Miguel 258 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 1: al McGuire was suspended by NBC News for accurately describing 259 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: what happened Clay, and I remember we talked about this yesterday, Clay, 260 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: who said, what's going to happen here? Do you think 261 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: they're even gonna apologize to him? They suspended a reporter 262 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: for the reportage of fact, and they did it because 263 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: it wrote it raised any question about the incident, and 264 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: they had a political narrative, which is Republican. This guy, 265 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: by the way, that the notion of this like lunatic, 266 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: noondest hippie who's living in a broken down bus selling 267 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: weed all the time and wandering around and saying he's 268 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, that this is some kind of a right 269 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: wing hit or something was completely insane, and NBC and 270 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: the rest of them all went along with it. So 271 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: let's just start with they, Oh, reporter Miguel al mcguare 272 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: a big apology, as we thought they would. He was 273 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: right what he said, happened, happened. How do we know, Clay. 274 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Paul Pelosi answers the door in his boxer shorts and 275 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: like a nightshirt, calmly. The police officers are in no 276 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 1: rush when they get there. The police officers knock, they're 277 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of like, hey, are we even in the right place? 278 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: Paub Pelosi calmly walks the door, calmly answers the door, 279 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: and they're just kind of saying, having a hey, guys, ever, 280 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: everybody okay here thing And Paul Pelosi has a drink 281 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: with ice cubes in it in his left hand during 282 00:16:57,200 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 1: this whole exchange and then it just sort of escal 283 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: if the maniac swings a hammer at him. Tell us, 284 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:08,880 Speaker 1: to me, what stands out the most is when Paul 285 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,439 Speaker 1: Pelosi play you the report from the Today Show that 286 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 1: got the reporter suspended when we come back in this 287 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: next segment, because I think we can hear, and now 288 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: that we've seen the video ourselves, we can assess the 289 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: accuracy of that that report which was considered unacceptable and 290 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: NBC fired him or suspended him over it. Now, what 291 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: I have said from the get go, when we first 292 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: heard his report, I think if you went back and 293 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: listened to our Showbuck, I said, for most people out there, 294 00:17:36,320 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: if there was an attacker who had entered into your 295 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: home and put you in peril of your life, and 296 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 1: the police arrived and opened the door, you would immediately 297 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: rush outside and get behind the police. Now, this guy 298 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: is standing right beside him holding a hammer. It's hard 299 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,160 Speaker 1: to hell from the video to me, Buck, whether he 300 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: actually has physical like whether he's holding Pelosi's arm in 301 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: when that door is open. Pelosi definitely has a drink 302 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,480 Speaker 1: in his hand that appears, which is also significant here. 303 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: But the cops basically opened the door and say, hey, 304 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,680 Speaker 1: what's going on, guys, And then in a fraction of 305 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: a second if you watch this video and you can 306 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: go check it out both of us have shared it 307 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 1: at Clay Travis, at Buck Sexton for yourself on Twitter, 308 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: you can go search out our accounts and go watch 309 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: this video for yourself. Buck. When you see it is 310 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:36,560 Speaker 1: how quickly it turns. The attack kind of comes out 311 00:18:36,600 --> 00:18:39,359 Speaker 1: of nowhere. In other words, it's not as if there's 312 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: a great deal of anger apparent and then suddenly, you know, 313 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 1: several a minute passes or something, and then there's an attack. 314 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: There's no screaming at It just goes directly to the 315 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 1: hammer attack really quickly. But I think the question I 316 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: have is if there's an assailant in your home, the 317 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,360 Speaker 1: police arrive at your home, and you I have an 318 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to rush outside behind the police. That's the one 319 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 1: thing here that does not add up to me. I 320 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: think we definitely need more here. If someone if someone 321 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: broke into my home at what was this two o'clock 322 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: in the morning or something right in the middle of 323 00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: the night or middle of the night, someone breaks into 324 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: my home in the middle of the night, I have 325 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: never met this person and don't know this person. Let's 326 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: let's assume that that's part of it, and they're clearly 327 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: you look at this guy, you can tell this guy's 328 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 1: not He's not all there, right, It is very obvious 329 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,640 Speaker 1: from just his his body language and in the video 330 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: what happens and if the guy was walking around for 331 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: months saying he thought he was Jesus and crazy things, 332 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: he's a lunatic. Okay, a lunatic breaks into your home 333 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night. You and I are 334 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: both thinking, am I going to have to kill this 335 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 1: person to defend myself and my family or those around me? 336 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: Like that's that's your thought process? How do I get 337 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: away from this person as quickly as possible? My life 338 00:19:55,880 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: is in jeopardy to me. There are two possibilities here 339 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: that would make some degree of sense based on the 340 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,640 Speaker 1: video that we've seen. The first would be, this guy 341 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: broke in. It's late at night, Paul Pelosi is you know, 342 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: he's eighty two years old, he's really out of it, 343 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,320 Speaker 1: and he kind of just starts like they actually start talking, 344 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: and there's some maybe he's trying to de escalate, Maybe 345 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: he's really scared, but he's trying to de escalate, maybe 346 00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 1: even offers the guy a drink and I'm just I'm just, 347 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, extrapolating here. Maybe offers the guy a drink 348 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: and says, you know, hey, we can talk this out. 349 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: But it also he called, like he didn't he called 350 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 1: the cops, right, Yeah, the reports are and again I'm 351 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: remembering based on prior. I think we had nine one 352 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: one call that was released prior. I feel like Pelosi 353 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,399 Speaker 1: went into the bathroom at some point and made a 354 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: call asking for police to come. But you can tell 355 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 1: by the way the police arrive it was not a 356 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 1: call that suggested, hey, someone's trying to kill me. It was, hey, 357 00:20:57,840 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: there's somebody here who's not supposed to be here, can 358 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: you comes like a wellness check almost kind of call. 359 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: And then so that's the one option that I laid out. 360 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,640 Speaker 1: I think I think that is a that is feasible. 361 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that happened. I'm saying that would be 362 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 1: feasible based on now having seen the video. The other 363 00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 1: option is that he knew this guy in some capacity, 364 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what, maybe just from the neighborhood or whatever. 365 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: I don't know. We don't have data. We don't have facts, 366 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: we don't have evidence to prove that, but that would 367 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:32,040 Speaker 1: then at some level indicate why he wouldn't be terrified. 368 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,879 Speaker 1: I mean, I think everyone listening to this nose clay 369 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: crazy person breaks into your house in the middle of 370 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,959 Speaker 1: the night, wakes you up and has a hammer. You 371 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: are terrified. You are thinking, am I going to have 372 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 1: to kill this person? Or is he going to try 373 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:45,959 Speaker 1: to kill me? You're not answering the door in your 374 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 1: boxer shorts with a drink in your hand, saying yeah, 375 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: everything's okay, which is what happens in this video, right. 376 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: I mean, that's just not what you would expect from 377 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 1: the situation. So clearly they didn't want this video released 378 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: for because it doesn't it doesn't look like what they 379 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: were telling us. It was right before people cast their 380 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: votes in the election. Yeah, that's right. And we're going 381 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,440 Speaker 1: to play the report from the Today Show and again 382 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 1: we got lots of breaking news here. We'll also see 383 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: if we can track down the nine one one call 384 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,440 Speaker 1: to try to piece this all together. But to me, 385 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 1: and this is like I always have to kind of 386 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: think as if you're a defense attorney. I've been a 387 00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: defense attorney before, in my career. My argument here is 388 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: is that this was some sort of you know, to 389 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:40,200 Speaker 1: try to just to try the hammer attack happened, right, 390 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,879 Speaker 1: So the evidence is Paul Pelosi was clearly attacked attack 391 00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,360 Speaker 1: and it was vicious and brutal and awful. We see, 392 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: we can see it, and that's a clear crime. But 393 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:55,640 Speaker 1: why did Paul Pelosi not immediately rush outside when the 394 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: police officers arrived. I think that's the difficult question, and 395 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:03,120 Speaker 1: that's why I think they didn't want this bodycam footage 396 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: released because it raises questions beyond oh, this was a 397 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: crazy Trump supporting MAGA attacker who just stormed into Paul 398 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:17,400 Speaker 1: Pelosi's home and beat him senseless with a hammer while 399 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: screaming you know this is you know, I'm just making 400 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: it up, right, but while screaming this is for the 401 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: insurrection of January sixth, which was the story that they 402 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: tried to basically sell. It's a little bit stranger, and 403 00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: I would be curious what the police thought because you 404 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: can hear the conversation from the police as they approach. 405 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: They aren't sprinting, they aren't running, as if Paul Pelosi 406 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: has conveyed, Hey, my life is an immediate peril. You 407 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: have to get here instantly, show up at house parties. 408 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: I was in college with more urgency than these cops 409 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 1: walk up to that door right for a noise complaint, 410 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 1: and I think that's part of what they was conveyed 411 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: to them as they approach was not this is hey, 412 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,280 Speaker 1: someone's life is in peril. The way that they arrived 413 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: and even the way Paul Pelosi opens the door while 414 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: having the drink in his hand, it's almost like a 415 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 1: convey you know, cordial, hey, officers, how are you doing? That? 416 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:16,160 Speaker 1: Rapidly then escalates into an attack. So we'll continue to 417 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,639 Speaker 1: provide more context for this. But two big stories involving 418 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: police bodycams, both coming out on this Friday. The one 419 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: in Memphis reportedly coming out this evening. We got several 420 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,479 Speaker 1: callers from Memphis who won a way in with what 421 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,680 Speaker 1: it feels like on the streets of Memphis right now, 422 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,360 Speaker 1: and we will continue to piece together all this audio 423 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 1: and story surrounding Paul Pelosi as well. You can also 424 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,840 Speaker 1: go to Clay and Buck dot com. The video is 425 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: up there if you're not a Twitter person at Clay 426 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: Travis at Buck Sexton video is out. The video what 427 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 1: did they think all that? Eight hundred two A two 428 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,440 Speaker 1: two eight a two. It is a Friday, lots of 429 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,640 Speaker 1: breaking news. 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Video of this Memphis police beating that 464 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: ended in a death. The Tyree Nichols case to come out, 465 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: which could create all sorts of issues. Joined now by 466 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: Keim Strassel of The Wall Street Journal. She's a columnist there, 467 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,480 Speaker 1: my favorite newspaper by far. In fact, I'm an old man. 468 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 1: I get the print copy every single day. It's sitting 469 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: next to me in my Las Vegas studio right now. Kim, 470 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: appreciate all the work. There's obviously major breaking news going 471 00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: on there. You talk about the news of the day. 472 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,919 Speaker 1: Have you seen the Pelosi video it's released. Do you 473 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: have any reaction to that? Yeah, so, first of all, 474 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: it's so great to be here. Thanks for having me on. 475 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: I have seen it, you know. At My first reaction 476 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: is I think we're going to see a lot of 477 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: people who are going to be very critical about the 478 00:27:37,000 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: fact that the police did not maybe intervene faster here. 479 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: But it's tough because you're looking at this in retrospect 480 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: and we now know what this perpetrator was doing, what 481 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: his intentions were, but that wasn't necessarily the case as 482 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: they walked in. So there's gonna be a lot of 483 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: debate over this, and a lot of debate about just 484 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 1: the circumstances of that whole event. But it's one more 485 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: piece of information. Kim. We also had you on today 486 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: because you've written this piece on the effort to ban 487 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 1: gas stoves, which is this is something that you know, 488 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of attention and then it flickered. It 489 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: It disappeared rapidly because they started to say that this 490 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 1: wasn't really a thing and that the right was making 491 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: it a thing. But you've dove into this a bit 492 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: and looked at the actual campaign to ban gas stoves. 493 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: It is a real thing. They push it with junk science. 494 00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: They do want to do it. Tell everybody what this 495 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 1: campaign's all about. Who's behind it. Yeah. The nonsense out 496 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: of the White House that there's no intention to do 497 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: this or that this is made up, that is bologny. 498 00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: There's a very coordinated and calculated and very well funded 499 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: effort to kill off all gas appliances. It's led by 500 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: a number of climate activist groups. And that's really important 501 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: to remember because you're hearing a lot about health claims, 502 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,360 Speaker 1: how gas stows are supposedly bad for your help. No, 503 00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 1: these groups understood years ago that trying to get Americans 504 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 1: to get rid of gas STOs would be very hard 505 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: if it was in the name of climate. So groups 506 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: like you have, like the Climate Imperative Foundation, the Rocky 507 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Mountain Institute, Rewiring America, New York Universities Institute for Policy Integrity. 508 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: They started pumping out all this hokey science claiming that 509 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: somehow stoves were bad for you, and that has now 510 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 1: been adopted wholeheartedly by members of the Biden administration. Just 511 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:39,440 Speaker 1: last month and December, the administration held a high profile 512 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 1: summit called the Electrification Summit. It featured an entire panel 513 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: on getting gas out of homes. All of the members 514 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 1: on that panels that and just recited these crazy health 515 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320 Speaker 1: claims as if they were accepted fat and talked about 516 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: the need to get rid of all combustion appliances in 517 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: your house. So you know, this is central to their 518 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: entire climate agenda. And it's not a question of if 519 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: they're going to do it, it's a question of when, 520 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,360 Speaker 1: Kim when you look. So there's so many things going 521 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: on right now. I know the Wall Street Journals has 522 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: been covering the RNC and who's going to end up 523 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: being the head of the RNC and also how that 524 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: could potentially implicate twenty twenty four. How wild and crazy 525 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 1: do you think the twenty twenty four elections going to be? 526 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: Do you think it's going to be Biden without too 527 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: many challengers. Do you think it's going to be pretty 528 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: much Trump versus De Santis or how do you see 529 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: this all shaking out? Obviously, as we sit here early 530 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three, feels like anything can happen. We 531 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 1: thought Trump was going to get charged until all the 532 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: classified documents can also, who knows what else might happen. 533 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: But as we're sitting here at the end of January, 534 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: how would you assess this battleground going forward? Yeah, it 535 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,400 Speaker 1: is going to be absolutely crazy. I am one of 536 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: those who believe that even if Biden announces that he's 537 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: still going to get a challenger. Okay, everything else about 538 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: him has been Jimmy Carter, and so why not that too. 539 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: I just find it very hard to believe that the 540 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 1: younger generation of his party is going to sit by 541 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: and let a guy whose infirmities are so on display 542 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: clear the field, especially when there's so many of them 543 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: who are eager to get in themselves on the Republican side. 544 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 1: I know that there is an effort going on in Washington, 545 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,280 Speaker 1: a lot of discussion for those who would like to 546 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: see new blood in the party, and I don't think 547 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: this is necessarily a comment on Trump himself, but there 548 00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: is a desire to have a new person out there, 549 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: and for those who are interested in that, there's been 550 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: a lot of talk about potentially trying to clear the 551 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: field other than Trump and De Santis in order to 552 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: make it harder for Trump to basically out maneuver what 553 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: would be a very crowded field. I myself do hope 554 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: we get a number of people in there, not because 555 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: I don't think De Santis is a really interesting candidate 556 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: and great, but because this is a really big moment 557 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,720 Speaker 1: for the conservative movement and they need to see a 558 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,440 Speaker 1: lot of different voices and have that debate and choose 559 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: very wisely, because it's going to be very important to 560 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: get a conservative back into the White House. You know, 561 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: Cam you mentioned the new generation and the Republican Party 562 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: and the dynamics at play for the presidency. But today, 563 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: as you know, RNC is voting over RNC chair. You 564 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: have Ron McDaniel, who was initially elevated into the post 565 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: by Donald Trump. Harmeet Dylan, who is a lawyer, also 566 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: does a lot of Fox News appearances, known to the base, 567 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 1: known to the party. Well, who's running against her I 568 00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: believe is Mike Lindell is also isn't here on the 569 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 1: ballot it, yes, Mike Lindell. But so, what do you 570 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 1: see with this dynamic playing out here? Yeah, So, I 571 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: without kind of getting into the personalities, I think this 572 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:53,320 Speaker 1: has been a really healthy discussion for the RNC to have, 573 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: just because a lot of it isn't necessarily about personality, 574 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: about the role of the outfit, what it did or 575 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 1: didn't do in the last mid term. As a result 576 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 1: of this fight, we're kind of having an autopsy about 577 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: the rnc's position and how it played into some of 578 00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: the failures that Republicans saw. And this comes as well, 579 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: which I find fascinating at a moment when everyone's beginning 580 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: to rethink the idea of these giant party structures anyway, 581 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: what are they supposed to do, especially in this day 582 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400 Speaker 1: and age, when so much money that pours into campaigns 583 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: is coming from these outside packs and they are really 584 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: exerting a lot of the influence heres. So one of 585 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,880 Speaker 1: the discussions, and I think it's just so important, has 586 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: been the role of the RNC of inviting new people 587 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: into the party, of outreaching to new audiences. I think 588 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: that is something that it's been getting better at and 589 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: you have seen that in terms of some of the 590 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: voting demographics shifts in recent elections, in particular Hispanics voting 591 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: in greater numbers for Republicans African Americans. I think those 592 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 1: discussions are really important to have, and so in my mind, 593 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of hopefully whoever comes out on top of 594 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 1: those these days. I think that that debate internally is 595 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: going to make the RMC stronger going forward. Kim Strassell 596 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: go check out her columns at The Wall Street Journal. Kim, 597 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: always appreciate you being with us. Come back soon. Thank you. 598 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: It's so great to be here. The fight to protect 599 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,799 Speaker 1: the lives of unborn children is as active as ever 600 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 1: in half the states in our nation. We're hearing and 601 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: reading about new legislation proposing newer laws for abortion, abortion pills, 602 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: and more. What you might not have heard about, however, 603 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 1: is the work of the Preborn Pregnancy Clinics nationwide. This 604 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: nonprofit organization has been saving the lives of unborn children 605 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,680 Speaker 1: for the past seventeen years. 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Subscribe to CNB twenty four to seven n 626 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: never miss a minute of Clay and Buck while getting 627 00:35:57,080 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 1: behind the scene access to special content for members only. 628 00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:04,120 Speaker 1: The third hour of Clay in Buck gets going right now, everybody. 629 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,760 Speaker 1: Right now, as we speak to you, RNC chair RONA 630 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:13,200 Speaker 1: McDaniel is fighting for reelection. They're having the r NC 631 00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: meeting out in Dana Point, California. Have you ever been 632 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: to Dana Point, Clay, I hear it. I think, so. 633 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: Where is Dana Point? Exactly? I was waiting for you 634 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: to tell me, buddy, you're the I've been. I've been 635 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,120 Speaker 1: all over I think it is. Well, I'm gonna look 636 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: it up now because I think I have been to 637 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 1: Dana Point. Um. I spent so much time out in 638 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:40,879 Speaker 1: California over the years, Orange County, so yes, I think 639 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I have been to Dana Point. I've spent so much 640 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: time in the LA area that it's not a bad area, right. Um. 641 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: I know there is a lot of anger over the 642 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: way California is run right now, but because Fox Sports 643 00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 1: is based out in LA, I've spent years of my life. 644 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: It feels like off and on traveling out to LA 645 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,279 Speaker 1: and been everywhere. Lots of great friends out there, so 646 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: Data Point very nice area. I think that California as 647 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: a physical, as a physical location is one of the 648 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,839 Speaker 1: hardest places to beat in the in the US. Yeah, 649 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,080 Speaker 1: I know, their national parks in Montana. There's a lot 650 00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: of a lot of rugged beauty out there. But if 651 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: you're a beach and coast guy, California's pretty amazing. And look, 652 00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: we can hope for one day California regaining it's you know, 653 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,719 Speaker 1: governing sanity. It's gonna take a while, it might take 654 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 1: a few decades, but it could happen at some point. 655 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: California is a state that gave us Ronald Reagan. California 656 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,760 Speaker 1: used to be a pretty solidly Republican You go back 657 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:45,600 Speaker 1: to the days of Nixon and it's pretty solidly Republican state. 658 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: And here we are now seeing that it's uh, not 659 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: that anymore, that's for sure. So they're voting. They're voting 660 00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: as we speak to you. The Republican members of the 661 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 1: r NC are voting on who will be the next 662 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,640 Speaker 1: Ulic National Committee chair. Looks like it's going to be 663 00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 1: either harm Meat Dylan or Rona McDaniel, who has had 664 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: the job for years now. And you know, how much 665 00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: of a difference does the RNC chair make. I think 666 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,120 Speaker 1: that's a fair a fair point or a fair question 667 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,920 Speaker 1: to bring up. And I do think harm Meat is 668 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,719 Speaker 1: very widely respected. I know Harmeat a little bit more 669 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:26,760 Speaker 1: than I know Rana, and I do think that there's 670 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: just a sense people have Clay that after a few 671 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: disappointing elections, which certainly twenty eighteen twenty twenty two all disappointing. 672 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,400 Speaker 1: Now you could argue that twenty twenty, with the exception 673 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 1: of the presidency, you know, went under the circumstances somewhat 674 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 1: you know, somewhat well, but certainly twenty eighteen was not good. 675 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,840 Speaker 1: People forget twenty eighteen. It looked like the Democrats didn't 676 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 1: do that well in the House in terms of pickups, 677 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,800 Speaker 1: and then it actually ended up doing very well overall. 678 00:38:55,840 --> 00:39:00,120 Speaker 1: There was something of a delayed blue wave there. I 679 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: do think that new new strategy, new approach is very 680 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: compelling right now. It's not even a knock. I don't 681 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,680 Speaker 1: know Ronna. I can't speak to her managerial skills or 682 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: anything else. Sometimes you just gotta shake it up, right, 683 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean, wasn't Trump in twenty sixteen what was really 684 00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: at the heart of the whole thing shaking up and 685 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: at at some level also just smashing parts of the system. 686 00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: I think that it's time for time for some change 687 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,759 Speaker 1: within the RNC. I think that would make a lot 688 00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: of sense. Well, I think the bottom line, you just 689 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 1: have to replicate to get out the vote effort that 690 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:37,240 Speaker 1: we've seen Democrats take advantage of since the COVID changes. 691 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: And you can keep saying, oh, we only vote on 692 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:43,680 Speaker 1: election day, but when you look at the numbers, when 693 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,200 Speaker 1: you're trying to replace a huge deficit by a big 694 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 1: turnout on election day, I think you have to recognize 695 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 1: that the game has changed, and you need some young, 696 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 1: dynamic leadership to acknowledge and recognize that. Speaking truth here, 697 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:03,000 Speaker 1: Republicans have won the popular vote in a presidential election 698 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: since two thousand and four. That's a generation. That's twenty years. Basically, 699 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,000 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens in twenty twenty four, But how 700 00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 1: do you get back to winning the popular vote? Particularly 701 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: considering that, I think it's fair to say Democrats by 702 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: and large have lost their minds and their governing style 703 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: has been a failure pretty much everywhere California where we 704 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 1: started talking about earlier. The larger the blue denomination is 705 00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,240 Speaker 1: in a state, the more people are choosing to leave 706 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: that state. California, New York, Illinois. When Democrats take complete 707 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 1: control of government, then really bad things follow and people 708 00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: are voting with their own physical possessions and their location 709 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,360 Speaker 1: and abandoning blue states in favor of red states. So 710 00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 1: Publicans have to cash in on this. Yeah, I think 711 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 1: that it's fair to say that there's some great things 712 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,680 Speaker 1: about the mindset of you know, the ethos the philosophy 713 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: of a of a conservative. Just as a very general thing, 714 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,680 Speaker 1: we look at what has worked, what does work. We 715 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: look at history, we look at tradition, foundations of our society. 716 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: We're suspicious of radical change. We're suspicious of people who 717 00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 1: say they have all the new all the answers are new. 718 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,359 Speaker 1: Forget about what has been known up to this point. 719 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 1: All the answers are presented suddenly they've just been found. 720 00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: The downside politically, though, and I mean from a nuts 721 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: and bolts running the machine side of things, is when 722 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:39,080 Speaker 1: it comes to adapting to new technology, to new strategies, 723 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 1: to new laws, even that are on the books. I 724 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: think Republicans can be slow. I think that we you know, 725 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: we like and of course tradition is a great thing, 726 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: and the traditions of our republic are something that should 727 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,280 Speaker 1: be upheld and protected. But we can't always be traditional 728 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: in how we get out the vote right. We can't 729 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 1: always be traditional and how we're reaching people in this 730 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 1: sense that adaptability and being sometimes on willing to look 731 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:10,000 Speaker 1: at what is working for your opponents as a means 732 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:13,120 Speaker 1: of information dissemination, as a means of getting your message 733 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 1: out to people that matters. And I do think that 734 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,520 Speaker 1: we're in a point now where everywhere that there's going 735 00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: to be a political contest, we got to think of, 736 00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: you know, how do we get the low probability voter out, 737 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,759 Speaker 1: you know, somebody who might who would probably come for 738 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: our side, come out for our side, but might not 739 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: show up at all. How do we get people who 740 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,239 Speaker 1: are independents to swing to our side? How do we 741 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:39,160 Speaker 1: get base turn out to be as absolutely high as possible. 742 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: And this is where you get into discussions about early voting, 743 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,000 Speaker 1: mail in voting, ballot harvesting, and also messaging. We're talking 744 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 1: about social media the other day. I know for a 745 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 1: lot of people, politics is shaking hands and knocking on doors. 746 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: Still very true. And our friends who have run for 747 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,879 Speaker 1: Congress recently, both successfully and unsuccessfully, have come on the show, 748 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: tell you that's still a big part of it. You know, 749 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: old school fundraisers, you know, having that having the chicken 750 00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: dinner and having everybody show up and you know, donate 751 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,320 Speaker 1: what they can. But there's also Facebook, and there's TikTok, 752 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 1: and there's Instagram, and there's giant email lists and they're 753 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: sorting through data and that's where the r you know, 754 00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:22,760 Speaker 1: it's like, where does the RNC matter? Yeah, distributing money, 755 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,640 Speaker 1: but distributing money intelligently and strategically in a way that 756 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 1: you win the elections. You need to pursue the agenda 757 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: because an agenda without wins is just talking points. And 758 00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,800 Speaker 1: also getting people who are Republicans to actually vote Republican. 759 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,920 Speaker 1: Because if you look at the close races in Nevada 760 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: where I'm out right now, the governor's office was pretty 761 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: much the only incumbent that flipped nationwide. But if you 762 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: look at Georgia in the herschel Walker race, if you 763 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: look at Nevada, if you look at the state of Arizona, 764 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: you can be focused on independence and Democrats, but really 765 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:02,320 Speaker 1: the reason why Republicans lost in those states was because 766 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: they had people who flipped over and were willing to 767 00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,560 Speaker 1: vote Republican on many races, but voted Democrat. They split 768 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: their tickets, So that has to be acknowledged and looked at. 769 00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: By the way, we're talking about two different stories that 770 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,920 Speaker 1: have been ongoing throughout the course of the program. The 771 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,920 Speaker 1: release of the Paul Pelosi video, which we will continue 772 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,000 Speaker 1: to break down. If you haven't seen it, you can 773 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,720 Speaker 1: go watch it yourself. We've played the nine one one calls. 774 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 1: We kind of pieced together everything on that case. Also 775 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: Tyree Nichols, twenty nine year old Memphis dad who was 776 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:39,480 Speaker 1: killed by five black Memphis police officers. That video is 777 00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:43,120 Speaker 1: going to be released at six pm Central, seven o'clock 778 00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: on the East coast and at four pm on the 779 00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: West coast. Could lead to could lead to some danger 780 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:56,160 Speaker 1: out there, and we put out the APB for Memphis residents, 781 00:44:56,560 --> 00:44:59,680 Speaker 1: what are you seeing? What are you hearing? Will take 782 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,359 Speaker 1: your calls on that. We're also want to take your 783 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,880 Speaker 1: calls in this final hour for any law enforcement that 784 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 1: wants to react to the Paul Pelosi video. Maybe you 785 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,480 Speaker 1: guys do as well. The number eight hundred two eight 786 00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,920 Speaker 1: two eight two, and I believe Katie and Memphis calling 787 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:17,560 Speaker 1: to give us a sense for what's going on in 788 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: the city of Memphis. Katie, What does it feel like 789 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: in Memphis right now as people in that city get 790 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 1: ready for the release of the police video. Yeah, thanks 791 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,640 Speaker 1: for taking my call. Memphis City schools have canceled all 792 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:35,480 Speaker 1: after school activities, so no games, nothing, Everything is shut 793 00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,040 Speaker 1: down after school. And that's a pretty big deal. Sorry 794 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,520 Speaker 1: to cut you off, Katie, But in Memphis, like no 795 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: basketball games going on on a Friday, that would be 796 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:46,719 Speaker 1: fairly common in the state of Tennessee Friday night, you know, 797 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: high school basketball. All of that's been canceled at all 798 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,279 Speaker 1: schools and all events. That's a pretty big news. I 799 00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't know that, correct. And also I think there's there's 800 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: winter dances this weekend. Those have been canceled. And but 801 00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:02,439 Speaker 1: now sobs I'm in the suburbs, those suburb schools are 802 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,600 Speaker 1: all activities as usual. Are you at all nervous about 803 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,759 Speaker 1: what the fallout is going to be in Memphis when 804 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,399 Speaker 1: this video comes out based on what has been been 805 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: already shared and conveyed publicly. Absolutely, everyone I've talked to 806 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: is nervous. I've been out running there in grocery store 807 00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: shop and it's kind of here in the Midwest. When 808 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,840 Speaker 1: it snows, everyone can run to the grocery store and 809 00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 1: they say, I'm planning on staying in for the next 810 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,640 Speaker 1: few days. That's kind of the sense here. Everyone is 811 00:46:28,719 --> 00:46:31,359 Speaker 1: just very apprehensive. A lot of people are saying, we're 812 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,320 Speaker 1: praying for our city. That's just kind of the feel 813 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:39,720 Speaker 1: around here. Everyone is loving on each other, telling everyone 814 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:42,719 Speaker 1: to be careful of these safe and stay in, thank 815 00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:46,600 Speaker 1: you for calling in, and you know play, there's just 816 00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: everyone knows we've been through this before, and the country 817 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,279 Speaker 1: dozens if not hundreds of different cities across America, I've 818 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,520 Speaker 1: been through this before. When there is anger about incident 819 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,320 Speaker 1: of police violence in some whatever the specific case may be, 820 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,120 Speaker 1: destroying things only makes everything worse and where we should 821 00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,799 Speaker 1: all be very there's there's no leeway on that. There's 822 00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: no there is absolutely nothing but um but support and 823 00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 1: respect for people using their First Amendment rights to get 824 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 1: out there in the streets and say this was unjust, 825 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200 Speaker 1: to come together to try to heal as a community, 826 00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: to call for it now. I do want to talk 827 00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: if there are already a discussion of policy change and 828 00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:31,839 Speaker 1: we could, we should have that discussion because I think 829 00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:33,840 Speaker 1: we need to be very careful about calling for policy 830 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,839 Speaker 1: changes in an emotional moment that will actually result in 831 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,200 Speaker 1: more violence for more people, which is this is reality. 832 00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,440 Speaker 1: We're having discussions, you know, among people that want the 833 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 1: best for every community and community, including the community of Memphis. 834 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,400 Speaker 1: But it's so beyond the pale this point that there 835 00:47:50,400 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: would be you know, Antifa or you know BLM anarchist 836 00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,719 Speaker 1: types or whomever taking up this, taking up this as 837 00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: a moment to attack innocent people's stores or homes or property, 838 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: or to throw rocks at the faces of cops who 839 00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:10,160 Speaker 1: don't actually have anything to be sorry for because they 840 00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,040 Speaker 1: weren't there, they didn't do it, you know what I mean. 841 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 1: It's you know, we need to come down a lot 842 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,240 Speaker 1: hard if any of that stuff happens. The whole country 843 00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: needs to come down really hard on those who still 844 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: think that burning down or looting your local store is 845 00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,839 Speaker 1: somehow achieving justice. Yeah, one hundred percent. And that's why 846 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: to start the show I said, you know, in addition 847 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: to praying for the people of the city of Memphis, 848 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,400 Speaker 1: I think so many National Guard, State Guard, police officers 849 00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:43,000 Speaker 1: who are busting their asses and working incredibly hard to 850 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,800 Speaker 1: try to protect everybody across this country are now going 851 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: to be unfortunately targets if there is going to be 852 00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: an uprising in these cities. And I talked about this earlier. 853 00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,320 Speaker 1: I want everybody back home and safe. Yeah. I remember 854 00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,879 Speaker 1: when during the BLM riots summer of twenty twenty, there 855 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:03,719 Speaker 1: was there was video and I mean there was a 856 00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,759 Speaker 1: lot of this stuff all over the place. But when 857 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 1: there were some federal officers who were sent to try 858 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,920 Speaker 1: to help protect a courthouse that it was having molotov 859 00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:15,359 Speaker 1: cocktails and incendiary devices thrown at the courthouse. They're trying 860 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,279 Speaker 1: to light a courthouse on fire, federal court building. And 861 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,560 Speaker 1: then they were shining lasers in the eyes, you know, 862 00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,520 Speaker 1: these laser pointers with the hope that they would blind people, 863 00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 1: which is a horrific thing to try to do to somebody. 864 00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,000 Speaker 1: And they were throwing bags of urine and feces at 865 00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:33,319 Speaker 1: these police officers. That's someone's dad, you know what I mean, 866 00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 1: This stuff really gets forgotten. That's someone who's doing a 867 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: job that's just that our country, that our people have 868 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,319 Speaker 1: asked them to do. They're standing on that line. They're 869 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:44,040 Speaker 1: protecting our society, and as long as they do do 870 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 1: so honorably and within the law. They should be respected 871 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,640 Speaker 1: and supported, and instead you have these lunatics literally throwing 872 00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,439 Speaker 1: bags of urine and it was disgusting, disgusting the stuff 873 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,560 Speaker 1: that So it's not even just the violence against the 874 00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:01,759 Speaker 1: cops from these anarchist groups that should be absolutely abjectly condemned. 875 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 1: It's the complete disrespect of law enforcement that happens. Maybe 876 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,960 Speaker 1: this is not even a discussion we have to have 877 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:13,520 Speaker 1: at all. Maybe people act appropriately despite their very emotions 878 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 1: are running very high, and people are gonna be very upset. 879 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,759 Speaker 1: We've been told that, and understandably so. But there's just 880 00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: never any excuse for attacking innocent people in any context 881 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:25,040 Speaker 1: because you're angry. That's we just have to draw a 882 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,160 Speaker 1: very hard line on that. And I think I'm hoping 883 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:29,920 Speaker 1: we don't have to have that discussion, but I worry 884 00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: that it will come Monday after this weekend. We may look. 885 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: Let's talk about the economy for a second, because it's 886 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:40,239 Speaker 1: rough out there. Inflation, stock market up and down all 887 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 1: the time, retirement accounts have gotten slammed over the last 888 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 1: twelve months or so. There's a lot of economic uncertainty 889 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:48,920 Speaker 1: out there. 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